#158 Off Leash Dog Approaching? Do This (Stop Dog Attacks)

An off leash dog is sprinting toward you and your dog. Do you know what to do? Most owners panic, freeze, or hope for the best. In this episode, we break down exactly how to handle an off leash dog approaching — in the moment, with the right tools, and for the long term.

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What You'll Learn:

✅ How to read dog body language: friendly vs. about to attack 

✅ What tools to carry to stop an off leash dog encounter 

✅ Whether you can legally use pepper spray to protect your dog 

✅ What to say to an owner with an off leash dog approaching 

✅ How to build reliable recall that holds up under real distraction 

✅ How to break up a dog fight safely without getting bitten

Dealing with off leash dogs on walks is scary — especially if your dog is reactive or you've already had a bad encounter. Knowing how to protect your leashed dog, what deterrents actually work, and how to proof your dog's recall can make the difference between a close call and a real attack.

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS:

• 00:00 – Why off leash dog encounters are getting more dangerous
• 03:19 – How to read dog body language: friendly vs. threat
• 04:54 – What to do when a loose dog approaches your dog on a walk
• 06:21 – Should you pick up your small dog when a loose dog runs up?
• 07:33 – Best tools to carry to stop an off leash dog attack
• 08:50 – Can you use pepper spray on a dog that attacks your dog?
• 11:00 – What to say to owner with off leash dog approaching
• 12:12 – Off leash dog etiquette and your legal rights on walks (Host covers neighborhood etiquette and handling owner negligence)
• 12:35 – Long line training: the foundation for reliable off leash control
• 13:16 – E collar recall training for high prey drive dogs
• 13:40 – Breed-specific recall tips: Husky, Shepherd, Lab, and more (Host addresses proofing the recall under extreme distraction for all types of dogs)
• 14:31 – How to break up a dog fight safely without getting bit
• 18:55 – Next steps: building a dog that's safe anywhere

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Transcript

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Welcome to Pac Talk Podcast episode 158. Today we're talking about what if there is an off-leash dog approaching you. You should do some of the things we're going to talk about today. We're trying to stop dog attacks. We're trying to help you understand how to handle these particular situations, which this is a very common situation that we get asked about all the time. You know, if you got someone walking down the street in their neighborhood, they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. They got their dog on a leash, you know, if it's an on-leash area, if they're if they're in an off-leash area, you know, they're doing respectful things in an off-leash area, but all of a sudden you have a off-leash dog running right at you. You don't see an owner in sight. If you're in a neighborhood, you're wondering, did this get out of someone's yard? Is it a wild dog? What's going to happen? Most people in this situation, they're either freezing or they're panicking, which could make the situation even worse. So today we're going to talk about what to do in the moment. We're going to talk about some tools you could look at potentially carrying if you need to, and how to train your mind for this particular situation. And it's not just off-leash dogs. You know, I spoke with somebody this past weekend, and she has foxes following her and her dog as they walk through their neighborhood. Someone else that I know that lives on uh Sullivan's Island in South Carolina, they have coyotes, you know, in their neighborhood. You've seen the videos online as well, the coyotes grabbing the small dogs. So it could be an off-leash dog, it could be some other animal, right? But we're going to talk about this today. But one thing I want you to think about as we talk is I want you to think about training your mind. If we can prepare our mind before a situation happens, with this is what I would do in this situation, that helps us when we're actually in the actual situation. So, first let's talk about why this happens, right? Why does this keep happening? Leash laws, they do exist, right? You'll HOAs will say, you know, your dogs must be on leash. Cities or counties, they'll say our dogs must be on leash, but there's very little enforcement of leash laws. I have been in situations where, you know, I'm walking with somebody, their dog is completely off-leash trained, it's walking right next to them. Then out of nowhere, an authority figure will show up and say, hey, you got to have your dog on leash. Hey, no problem. We put it on the leash. Not that the dog was doing anything it wasn't supposed to be doing. The dog was very respectful. They were just adhering the leash law. But in most cases, there is very little, if any, enforcement of leash laws, right? And some people just don't care, right? They don't care if their dog's walking around in the neighborhood, they don't care if their dog's off the leash. People let their dogs out of the out of the front door thinking it will turn around, just come right back, and it doesn't. Something else that really just grinds my gears is when, you know, you got your dog on leash, you're doing what you're supposed to be doing. Someone else has their dog off leash or maybe even on leash, and it's coming right for you. And if it's on leash, they're just getting drugged to you. And they say, He's friendly, she's friendly, right? That is one of the most dangerous phrases in dog ownership because you know, the people that are saying that, they have no idea about their dog's real personality. They don't understand dog body language, they don't even know what their dog's communicating. A friendly dog could have situations where it, you know, bites another dog, you know. So just uh just don't say that, right? Don't say that. Understand dog body language, understand responsible and respectful dog ownership. If you're looking to let your dog meet other dogs, go to a dedicated dog park, right? Then you have a bunch of people with their dogs on leash, they're working through reactivity, they're working through different problems with their dog, and here you are coming right up with your uh dog on leash or off-leash saying he's friendly, and the person that's working on something with their dog, you know, please, please give me space. He's, you know, my dog's not friendly. You know, they're saying stuff like this, and the other person just can't hear you. They got some kind of mental block in their head. He's friendly, he's friendly. Like their dog's the only one that matters. And uh, you know, quick story. I was that guy before I got into dog training. I remember having my dog off-leash on a walking trail that was a leash walking, you know, it was an on-leash walking trail. You're supposed to have your dog on leash. I had my dog off leash. It was she was a little mutt, she's passed away a couple years ago. And uh, you know, she would run up to other dogs and and throw very dominant body language. I didn't know it at the time, I do now. But I remember we were on the trail, this guy's riding his bike, he didn't even have a dog. My dog starts running at the guy, and uh, he jumps off his bike, he's scared, and I said, Oh, she's friendly, she's friendly. And the guy blocks my dog with his bike, and I was like, What a dick! You know, that's what I was thinking. But uh now that I know what I know, I was the person in the wrong, right? So don't be that guy, don't be what I used to be. You know, a leash dog, they can't, you know, if they're on leash, they can't run away. They feel trapped, right? That makes them more reactive, especially as time goes on. I was having a conversation with some of my uh training assistants that work at Canon Revolution Dog Training, helping us to train the dogs, take care of the dogs. You know, we have a staff of 20 to 30 people, and our training assistants make up the majority of our staff. And we were talking about why do dogs become reactive? And I was explaining that usually it's situations that the dog finds themselves in, and they figure out that being reactive is what gets them out of that situation. So, for example, if a dog is a little bit nervous, right, and gets uh run up on by another dog, like an off-leash dog, and they react, and that off-leash dog leaves them alone, they start to learn that by reacting they can keep other dogs away from them, which is how reactivity can start, and it just escalates over time. So, just something to think about, something to know about. All right, one of the things we need to be familiar with is reading the dog. Reading the dog that's approaching us, reading our dog. We need to understand dog body language. We need to understand what are the potential cues we're reading off of our dog and the other dog, that it could be a potential threat, or it could be potentially friendly. So, for friendly dogs, you'll see like a loose-ish body. You'll you could see the tail wagging horizontally and the butt of the dog wagging at the same time. You could see the dog being kind of bouncy. A lot of times they'll do play bows where they'll kind of lower their front end, keep their rear end up. You know, these kind of things, these are all indications that the dog is most likely friendly. It doesn't always mean the case, but most likely. If the dog's a threat where it could cause an issue, that dog most likely has a stiff body. It could have a hard stare. The tail could be straight up, curled over. That's the sign of dominance confidence. Could have a tail lowered, right? Sign of unsurety, insecurity, fear, tail curled up underneath the belly, fearful, right? Hard staring, you know, ears forward, a little bit of uh wrinkles on the forehead from the ears and the eyes getting so focused on your dog, straight line approach coming right at your dog, right? All these are indications of a potential threat. And, you know, basically you're reading that body language as quickly as you can to tell you what is the potential of what could happen here. You know, a dog that appears to be a threat could leave you alone. It could kind of walk up, stand a few feet away, and then just walk off, which would be ideal. You could have a friendly dog that runs up right to your dog, tries to play, then runs off, right? Um, but you knowing that body language, knowing body language in more detail is going to help you determine what is the potential uh effect of this dog actually getting to me, right? And how much time do you have to actually prepare? Do you have a lot of time? Do you have a couple seconds? Do you have a couple minutes? Like how much time do you have to make a decision and figure out what this dog's doing, right? Now let's talk about what you should do in the moment. You're in this situation, you've got this dog running up at you, could be an off-leash dog, could be an owner getting dragged by their dog. What do you do in the moment when this is happening? First of all, stay as calm as possible. I know it's hard. Your dog is reading your energy. That other dog is reading your energy. Stay as calm as you can, right? Try not to scream or yell, because if you do that, that could trigger your dog to be reactive. That could trigger the other dog to actually run up when it wasn't even going to run up on you. So keep that in mind. Try not to raise their arousal, try not to trigger an attack. If you start screaming, that could trigger those things, right? You can use a body block, right? So for me, when I'm in these situations, I call my dog in a heel position, which is on my left side. Let's say the off-leash dog is approaching me, I'll generally turn my body. So the right side of my body is facing this unknown dog walking up, and then my dog is on my left side and it maintains body adherence to me. So when I turn, it turns, right? That comes from good heel training, good leash walking training. So you can do that. A lot of times that other dog might try to move around you and you keep turning as that other dog is turning, and then the other dog will kind of move off. It's a potential, or the other dog could just come straight in, doesn't care about your body block, comes straight into you. You can tell that dog as you're body blocking, no, no, right? You don't want to start yelling, you don't want to try and get amped up. You just want to be firm, you want to be neutral, no, no, right? Something like that. These kind of authoritative or uh you know firm communications, a lot of times will the dog will get that vibe and it will kind of hover for a second and then it might turn away because it's not used to being treated like that, right? You can uh do some like as you're turning, you can do some lateral movement, you know, move diagonally or laterally to the side with your dog on your left side and heel position. A lot of times this will continue your body block and use body language to communicate to that off-leash dog, hey, give me some distance. If you start moving away, just backing up running away, that could trigger the other dog's prey drive. So you have to take that into consideration for these types of situations, right? Also, depending on the size of your dog, right? If you have a small dog and you have a giant dog or a bigger dog running up to you, like we've seen in some of these React videos that we review, you might want to pick up your dog. Because if that bigger dog gets to you and it's a threat, it could do serious damage or death, you know, uh, to your dog. And we don't want that to happen, obviously. So you can do the body block, you can pick up your dog, right? You can if the dog keeps coming, you can kick it with your foot, right? And try to get its nose area or like tenderness in the face to try and teach it like, hey, don't come close to me. You're giving it like a body language communication. You can take your leash and you can kind of snap it in front of their face or kind of you know slap their face with the leash. You do what you got to do to protect your dog. You want your dog to trust you, you want your dog to respect you, you don't want your dog to get hurt, right? Um, so handling it in this situation kind of accomplishes all those goals. You also don't want your dog to become reactive, and you also want this other dog to get the vibe that you do have control of the situation, you're not the normal person that it walks up on who's just gonna run away back away. Um if you're listening to this and you're thinking that you have been in these situations before, let me know in the comments. If you're watching on YouTube, let me know in the comments if you're on Spotify. I know you can comment as well. I'm not sure if you can comment on Apple or wherever you are listening, but if you can comment, comment. Let me know some of your thoughts so far. Let me know what situations you've been in and how you handled it and what happened. Now, there are some tools you could potentially carry on your walks or on your outings with your dog, and these tools can help you in these particular types of situations in some cases. I've been in a lot of situations with people and uh they've had some kind of tool on them that did not work at all. So there is the potential that it won't work at all, but you can always try, right? A couple of the common tools that I've seen ultrasonic dog deterrent, people get these on Amazon. You hit a button on it, it emits a loud noise that you can't hear or you can barely hear, but to the dog, it's supposed to deter them. And I have seen that be effective in some cases, it's usually directional. You hold it in their direction, you hit the button, it emits the noise, it deters the dog. I've seen it effective in some cases, and there's other cases where I've seen it completely ineffective. So just keep in mind every time you add a tool for dog deterrence, you add something else you have to carry, right? And for me, I try to be minimalistic in what I'm carrying, so you got to consider that as well. Another thing I've seen, citronola spray, you know, it's it's they consider it humane, it stops most encounters. You spray it right in their face, right? It kind of disturbs them, distorts them, then they want to leave away. Uh, you could do some kind of dog-rated pepper spray, you know. I don't want to pepper spray a bunch of dogs in the face, especially if they're not really threats, because something else I've done in a lot of cases where an off leash dog's running at me, I just tell my dog to heal and I keep walking, I act like that dog's not even there. If I can tell the dog coming up to me is not a threat, I'll just completely ignore that dog. I'll have my dog ignore the dog. We keep moving, we just move past the dog, we just go about our business, eventually that dog leaves us alone. I've also had that happen in a neighborhood. I remember I was walking with four different dogs, they're all in my left side and heel position. Some bulldog, some some older guy had a bulldog. The bulldog pushed open his front door somehow, came out the house. The old guy can't get his dog. The dog's moving faster than he is. I just kept walking, and the dog followed me for probably a solid mile. I got back to my house, I put the dogs that I had into a downstair. I turned around, I unclipped one of the leashes on the dogs that I had because they're all off-leash trained, left my dogs in a downstair. I went over to the bulldog, clipped the leash on them, walked them back to the owner, just gave the owner the leash, told them to hey, keep the leash, go back to your house, whatever. So uh that has happened in the past, right? So, not in every case that or do you need a tool? Not in every case do you need to say no? Not in every case do you need to, you know, kick the dog or slap it with a leash or whatever. Sometimes you just keep going about your business, and a non-threatening dog or a dog that's not really an issue dog is just gonna kind of do their thing, right? But there is dog-rated pepper spray, you can use that. I would say keep it hold hold if you're gonna get that, use it in extreme cases. You know, you aim that at the nose and the eyes to kind of distort that, but it could also frustrate the dog. So could citronella spray, so could the ultrasonic dog deterrent. These could all frustrate the dog and trigger a reaction or aggressive response, so just be aware of that. Some people, you know, they have an umbrella or a walking stick. Umbrellas people have pop them open to startle the other dog, but you could also startle your dog. Same thing with the citronella and pepper spray, you could accidentally get that on your own dog or you, so be very careful before you deploy that. Same thing with the ultrasonic dog deterrent, even though it's directional, you can accidentally flag your dog with that. Now your dog's getting that uh you know noise on it as well. So all this can affect you and your dog as well. So just keep that in mind. But if you have an umbrella, you pop that open, you could startle the other dog, keep it away. You could also startle your own dog and make it try to run away. So just keep that in mind. Walking stick. I've seen some people walking with walking sticks, and then they'll just use it to poke or prod or keep the other dog away, sometimes hit the other dog. So uh then there was a reaction video we did recently with some kind of bear uh shot. It was like a slingshot on your arm, and you point it and you pop it. It's like a bear slingshot or something like that. You could you could do that. That's what this guy did. It makes a loud noise to scare away bears, but you could also scare away dogs. You could also scare away your own dog. So just be careful. In most places, you're totally fine to defend yourself no matter what uh method you choose. Now, there are some people that go extreme and they want to shoot a dog, right? They're they're concealed carrying or open carrying, they want to shoot a dog, or they got a knife, they want to stab a dog. I mean, come on. Unless there is life on the line, or unless, you know, I'm getting I'm I have the potential to get seriously injured by the other dog, if I have a nice friendly dog walking up to me, I'm just gonna ignore that dog and keep walking, even if it's off leash. I'm really reading that body language as that dog approaches, and I'm making the decision on what I'm gonna do based on the body language that comes up. But in most cases that I've been in, either ignoring the dog and keep moving and the dog move off on its own, or you know, using my foot to kind of kick the dog in the face or leash to kind of slap it in the face, those have all been very effective. There was one time where I took the leash off of my own dog, which is off-leash trained, wrapped it around the other dog's neck, and I kind of helped got control of that other dog with the leash. So that is a potential as well, right? When uh when the other dog has an owner, you see the owner, I always say something like, you know, please get your dog, right? Please, no petting, please don't let your dog come up to my dog. Right? Things like that. There have been situations where people just don't hear me, and I've put my dog on my left side, I've canted my body, I've adjusted my body. Now this dog is approaching to my right, and I've grabbed their leash, and I've held their leash for them, you know, because obviously they can't control their own dog, they can't uh, you know, understand what I'm saying when I say, please give me space, please don't get any closer. So I'll grab their leash for them. Again, my number one goal to retain the trust of my dog, retain the respect of my dog, and demonstrate that I can handle the situation, right? Two things also I want to think I want to talk about if you're in these situations. You if if there is a tussle or a hassle or or something goes down, there's always the potential your dog could get off leash, which means you need to have a very reliable recall. We have a video on our YouTube channel that shows you how to do that. We can link it down below. But you know, going through your long line training, making sure your dog knows how to come on command on a six-foot leash, making sure your dog knows how to come on command with a long line, right? Making sure that your dog has good e-collar conditioning, knows how to return to you with the e-collar properly. We have a full tutorial on our YouTube channel uh that shows you how to do that at home. Make sure you've proofed this under distraction, that even in distracting situations, your dog knows what to come to you when you call them. Because when you're on the walk and the off-leash dog shows up and things go down, that's a very distracting situation. So you gotta make sure that your dog's ready for that, that you're ready for that.

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You gotta make sure your dog understands corrections and and responds to them properly. So, you know, if your dog is, you know, in a tussle with another dog, an off-leash dog, make sure you can call your dog back from that. Right? Your e-collar equals communication at a distance, it's your invisible leash. You know, it's very critical that you uh, if you can, depending on where you live, accomplish good uh, you know, e-collar conditioning and communication with your dog. And don't forget that reactive dogs can get off the leash. I see it all the time with people using flat collars. Their dog slips the flat collar and they're running around. So you need to have good equipment set up for a saver training collar, something like that. You know, strong six-foot leather leash. I prefer a leather leash, it could be any leash. You know, e-collar conditioning, making sure you're working on your engagement, your obedience, making sure that your dog can do all this. And you might be working on this when a situation happens, especially if you have a reactive dog. You might be working on all this with your reactive dog, off-leash dog approaches you, something happens, right? Then in that case, you gotta kind of deal with it as you can based on everything we've talked about. Let's say, for example, your dog gets into a fight. What do you do if your dog gets into a fight? This off-leash dog has run up to you, now your dog and the off-leash dog are fighting. You gotta be careful, right? Because the anytime, at any point, either dog could turn around and bite you, depending on how you're handling it. Generally, if you grab near the mouth, you're more at risk of you getting bitten by the dog. If there's two people, you know, try the wheelbarrow method where one person grabs the rear legs of one dog, the other person grabs the rear legs of the other dog, y'all lift up to make them off balance, and then you slowly pull them apart. They do have the potential to come apart and turn around and bite the closest thing to them, which could be you. So hold those legs until they kind of calm down, right? If you're alone, you could take your dog's leash, tie it off to something, go around to the other dog, grab the rear legs, lift them up, back it away. Or, you know, you could you could drop your dog's leash, go around to the other dog, grab their legs, lift up, back up, tell your dog to stop. If you have good e-collar conditioning and good verbal control, and tell your dog to down, your dog should lay down, rest while you back up this other dog, get control of the other dog. Other thing you can do is if you have your dog e-collar conditioned, off-leash trained, and uh you're in this off-leash dog battle, and uh the other dog that's off-leash, you know, is coming up to you and your dog. Now you your dog and this off-leash dog are in a fight. You have your e-collar on your dog. You can take the leash off of your dog. You've got your e-collar on him. That's your invisible leash if you trained it properly. Take your leash off, walk around to the other dog, put the buckle through the handle on your leash, use it as a slip lead on this other dog, slip lead that dog, you know, lift up on its neck until it gets uncomfortable and lets go of your dog. Tell your dog to down, use the e collar to help you communicate if you need to, then walk. The other dog away with your leash formulated as a slip lead. So you got options. You got to think about what's going on. But after the fight's over, after you break them up, and you got to figure out what to do with that dog after you break up the fight, right? Sometimes you leave your dog in a downstate. You can call animal control. You can try to figure out with people in the area whose dog this is, right? Whatever, however, you got to handle that. But after you handle it, you always want to check your dog, you know, check for puncture wounds, check for uh damages, right? Sometimes damages can be nursed at home. Sometimes you need to go to the uh veterinarian to make sure you get them checked out. You want to be careful of infection, you want to be careful of uh injuries that could become possible other things that will complicate the recovery process. So you'll have to make that decision based on what's happening with your dog. I'm the kind of person that tries to handle most things at home, but if it's bad, I'm going to the vet, obviously. So basically, you know, you want to know the body language, see what's happening with that dog. Before you, you know, you want to know body language in general, your dog and the other dog. Assess that other dog. Is it a threat? Is it a friendly dog? Figure out what actually kind of dog is approaching you. You also want to make sure that your training foundation is solid, your training is solid. You don't know if this is going to happen at the beginning of your training journey, midway through your training journey, or at the more advanced level of your training journey. But wherever it, wherever this type of situation happens, you got to be ready, you got to think about how you're going to handle that. Know the body language, assess that dog that's off-leash running at you, or the dog getting dragged to you, the dog dragging the owner to you. Read the body language, figure out what that dog is potentially communicating. Know the tools that you want to carry. If you want to carry some of the extra tools, the walking stick, the sprays, the ultrasonic sound thing, whatever tool you decide to carry, you know, pick it out, make sure you're ready with it, make sure it's part of your routine. Know how you're gonna move, right? Know how you're gonna move your body. Know if you need to body block. Know if you need to communicate, right? Remember, try not to communicate in a fashion that's going to increase arousal or excitement or trigger a reaction. You got to be careful of that, right? Make sure you're working on your recalls, your off-leash training, your e-collar conditioning, do your long line work, proof your training, right? Make sure you get accountability worked into your training at some point. And uh make sure that uh you know you and your dog are running through as many scenarios as possible to try and prepare and be ready for the unknown or a situation similar to this. So let me know what you guys think. Leave a comment if you're on a platform where you can comment, leave us a review on your favorite podcast platform. If you're watching or listening on a podcast platform, those reviews really help us. And if you need help with your dog, you can reach out to us, Canine Revolution Dog Training. 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