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BREAKING: New Alcohol Guidelines And What It Means For Your Health
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Welcome to the Stop Drinking Podcast, where we help you make stopping drinking a simple, logical and easy decision. We help you with tips, tools and strategies to start living your best life when alcohol-free. If you want to learn more about stop drinking coaching, then head over to wwwsoberclearcom. So I've just seen this video and I'm pretty annoyed. I don't want to be a gossip and I don't want to be too harsh, but we need to watch this.
Speaker 2:It's the third, but we're heading into the Fourth of July, weekend it's upon us, and that means barbecues, festivities and, for some, you know, alcoholic beverages. Now, for years, the general guideline has been to limit alcohol to two drinks a day, but that may soon change. Joining us with some insight, dr Jolene Hubber. She's a line of health medical oncologist. Dr Hubber thanks for being with us this morning.
Speaker 3:Yes, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2:I think it's really interesting that we're talking to an oncologist, because we've heard more and more recently about a possible connection between alcohol and cancer. Can you tell us what the latest research says?
Speaker 1:Wait, let's just interrupt right there. Did she just say a possible connection between drinking alcohol and cancer Possible? It ain't possible. It's scientifically proven. The problem is most of the population don't know about it. There have been surveys that show that most of the adult population are blind to this fact. There is actual evidence of this. In 2020, they found out that only 27% of the population think that there's a link between alcohol and cancer. So I don't know what the heck she's using this language for. Maybe they're afraid of people clicking off the TV show if she gets too brutal. But let's continue.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so the research has been a little bit conflicting and a little bit complex, but we know that there's definitely evidence that certain common cancers are associated with alcohol use and alcohol is technically classified as a carcinogen.
Speaker 1:Whoa, we know that there's. Why can't they just say it black and white? Alcohol causes cancer. Why are we beating around the bush here? Sorry, but anyway.
Speaker 2:And when you say certain common cancers like breast cancer, are those what we're talking about?
Speaker 3:Correct. Yeah, so biochemically we know that alcohol can increase the risk or increase the levels of estrogen which can influence the development of breast cancer, particularly the hormonal sensitive breast cancer. We also know long-term alcohol use can lead to cirrhosis of the liver and inflammation which can lead to liver cancer. So there are definitely clear risks for certain cancers.
Speaker 1:Okay, I guess they were building up to the point, but it doesn't take 90 seconds to say alcohol causes cancer. I feel like they're really just delivering this blow very softly and it's not necessary. Let's see what else they've got to say.
Speaker 2:For a long time, the guideline was two drinks a day, but those are changing. What are the new recommendations?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it was actually the. Historically it was one drink a day for women, two drinks a day for men, and now we expect that those guidelines will be eliminated. They'll change to recommending that Americans drink in moderation and limit their alcohol use due to certain health effects.
Speaker 1:What does that even mean? What does?
Speaker 2:that mean? First question is why is that recommendation changing? Why is the wording changing? And then second in moderation. What does that mean? Does that mean less than one drink a day?
Speaker 3:That is an excellent question.
Speaker 2:A lot of people listening being like okay, well, what should I do?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think the people's choices on whether to drink or not really should be individualized right. So people may have certain medical risk factors or family risk factors that may influence their decision and they may want to come back. Other people may be comfortable with more moderate consumption. We generally try to stick to that one to two drink per day limit. It tends to be on the weekends, such as the holiday weekends, people drink more, but we really discourage the binge drinking which is getting greater to that three to five drinks or more. What do you make of this new recommendation? As an oncologist, I'm a little concerned because of the association with certain risk factors. However, I do think you know alcohol won't necessarily cause cancer in everyone. So it is an individual choice based on your lifestyle goals and your individual risk factors.
Speaker 2:So it doesn't sound like you're recommending people stop drinking altogether, but it sounds like you need to make.
Speaker 1:Wait, I don't understand this. They're saying to drink less. That's what the alcohol companies tell us to do. Drink responsibly, drink less. Do we say this to people who are smoking heroin? Just smoke a little bit less of the most addictive drug known to man or, in alcohol's case, one of the most. It sounds absolutely ludicrous. Now, I'm sure this lady is very good at what she does, I'm sure she's an expert and I don't know what's going on here. But it's almost like they don't want to be too harsh because I'm sure they're afraid of people just turning off the TV. So they're very soft with the messaging. Now don't get me wrong. Overall it is kind of positive, especially at the beginning. They're bringing awareness to the fact that alcohol is a carcinogen Great.
Speaker 1:But then this kind of beating around the bush like, yeah, drink less. If that stuff worked, nobody would get drunk, we'd all drink less. It's a drug and the problem with shit like this is how many people are going to watch this and drink less. When I drank alcohol, if I watched this, do you know what I would think? I wouldn't think hmm, tonight I'm going to have just one drink. Well, do you know what I might think? That that's exactly what I would think oh, okay, right, I don't need to stop drinking, I can drink less. Great justification have one drink, boom, I'm drinking 10.
Speaker 1:Every time, every freaking time, and it's messages like this that just exacerbate the problem. Because, think about it like this there is an element of truth in what she's saying. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm not making this personal, but the answer is clear. There is no safe amount of alcohol to consume Zero. The same way that there's no safe amount of cocaine to snort. And to me, when people talk like this in this vague kind of soft language, it doesn't help anybody. I always think about the amount of people that will do this and go all right. Tonight I'll have one glass of wine and then they finish the bottle. And I will just say I do agree that people should be able to choose what they put in their body, but an expert, an oncologist, recommending people still drink this carcinogen and this poison?
Speaker 3:I don't get it.
Speaker 1:Anyway, let's finish it off.
Speaker 3:So really talking with your doctor about your risk factors for the development of alcohol-associated risks is super important and your doctor may recommend hey, based on your particular factors, you may want to limit or even cut out alcohol use altogether. All right.
Speaker 2:Well, Dr Jolene Hubbard, thank you so much for being here with us.
Speaker 3:We really appreciate it. Yes, thank you very much, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not even sure what to say. This is, honestly, it deflates me. I feel just like, oh, go and see a doctor to stop poisoning yourself, and maybe the doctor will say limit your drinking and listen. I'm not saying that what she's saying is wrong To me, though. It is just absolutely terrible advice. Go and see a doctor. Maybe a doctor will tell you to limit your drinking or maybe stop altogether.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I would have loved to have seen Is somebody like her that's clearly an authority on her topic. She is literally a cancer specialist. I would have loved her just to sit there and look at those interviewers dead in the eyes and say people need to wake the hell up. But it's media right. Do you know what's going to happen if they do that? Half the population are probably going to turn off, the TV Ratings are going to plummet, but it's going to save people's lives. But anyway, it is what it is. At least the conversation's going on. I just couldn't help but make this video. It needed to be addressed. Thanks for checking out the Stop Drinking Podcast by Sober Clear If you want to learn more about how we work with people to help them stop drinking effortlessly.