The Imagination
A voice for the voiceless
The Imagination
Shadowbans & Censorship, UFOS, Epstein & MK ULTRA Hearings, and Disclosure & Damage Control
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Hey everyone! In this solo episode, I jumped on to catch up with all of you - both my longtime supporters and everyone new who found me after my last two YouTube channels were terminated. I’m now in year six and season six of the podcast, and I shared how grateful I am that you’re still here with me despite all the censorship, shadowbans, and obstacles.
I opened up about the emotional journey of running this show while working a full-time job, the many times I wanted to quit, and how your support kept me going. I explained that I restarted my third YouTube channel in early 2025 after realizing Rumble wasn’t getting the same traction. While YouTube has stopped deleting episodes as aggressively as before, they’ve shifted to a new kind of censorship - heavy shadowbanning that keeps my videos from reaching more people even as subscribers grow. I asked for your help sharing episodes so these important survivor stories can break through.
I also walked through the resources I’ve created for you: detailed Substack summaries with timestamps and bullet points for every episode, my Tuesday “movie night” replays featuring rare historic survivor interviews and the powerful 1990s CKLN Mind Control radio series, plus our live community chats on Sundays, Tuesdays, and Thursdays.
On current events, I talked about the Epstein files and the new UFO/UAP disclosures. I explained that while these releases contain real information, they’re carefully managed—they leave out the crucial connections to MK Ultra, Monarch programming, generational ritual abuse, and organized networks. I stressed how important it is for us to connect these dots ourselves and not let the information stay compartmentalized. I also touched on the upcoming MK Ultra-related congressional hearings and why this is a pivotal moment where we need to push hard for full truth, accountability, and real support for survivors.
I ended by reminding everyone - especially those struggling right now - that you’re not alone, your story matters, and there is hope and light ahead. I encouraged our community to stay united, use our creativity and imagination to drive change, and keep fighting for the truth together.
Thank you for being here with me on this journey. I’m so grateful for every single one of you.
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What's up, you guys? Emma here. I thought I would jump on and do a solo episode to catch up with you guys. I haven't done one of these in a little bit, and a lot has happened. There's a lot of new people here. So I thought I would just come on and do a short reintroduction of myself and of this podcast and welcome all of you here, whether you have refound me from my last channels being terminated, or whether you're new here and found me from somewhere else. I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for being here and for tuning in and supporting my channel and not just my channel, but especially all the guests that I have on. It means more to me than you could ever know, especially having had my last two YouTube channels terminated. Um, I'm really grateful to still be here on this platform now, and I am really grateful to have all of you here along with me. So with that being said, my name is Emma Catherine, as many of you guys know, and I have been doing this podcast since 2020, and I began it based off my passion for this movement and my frustration for a podcast like this not existing at the time that I started. So I am on year six and season six of this podcast, which is really phenomenal and sometimes really hard to believe, especially given all of the ups and downs that I have done. And, you know, considering the fact of how much further along I may be if I would have chosen a different topic for my podcast. Um, it's sort of frustrating being so censored and having to deal with so much termination, deletion, shadow banning, and the like. And so it's just really an honor to still be here. And I'm really grateful to have kept going on this journey. And I have all of you to thank for that, your constant encouragement, you guys finding me um, regardless of if I'm terminated or not, returning to the channel and just being really diligent about supporting and uplifting me and all the support that you show the guests and you guys expressing how much this podcast means to you, all the survivors who tune in, who say that the show impacts them, those things really mean a lot to me. And I can't, I can't put that into words and articulate that the way that I wish that I could. But I just want you to know that it really means so much to me. And when I have wanted to quit, which has been many times, um, caught up in the frustration and just the time that it takes to do this, um, and me having a full-time job and you know, doing this from the goodness of my heart and all of the obstacles that I've encountered. There have been many times where I have wanted to just throw in the towel, and it's you guys who have kept me going. And I'm really grateful for that because this has become my greatest passion and my dream. It's something that I would love to do full-time one day if the opportunity arises, and I pray it does. But I know if it does, it'll be also because of you guys. And so I just really appreciate you guys being here. I welcome you guys here in this community. And with that being said, I have a few things that I wanted to share today, including the censorship. What I noticed, I had my last channel deleted in October of 2024, and I took a break from YouTube. I started posting more on Rumble and other channels, and actually was not going to start a YouTube. However, I saw that the transfer of my YouTube audience who said that they would follow me to Rumble didn't. Um, that channel has been very, very slow to grow no matter how hard I promote it. Rumble just is a it's a little bit more difficult to use as a user and as a podcaster. And so I understand that it's not the most user-friendly platform, and it's not necessarily the number one preference for many of you to watch videos. However, there was a crossover and a sense of some of you did come over, and I'm really grateful for that. I do have a small audience over on that platform. And if you're on Rumble, please follow me just in case there is something that does happen here on YouTube, and I pray that it doesn't with all my heart, because reposting six years of episodes would be absolutely devastating and very, very, very time consuming for me to do all over again. Um, the last time it took me months and months. Um, and so with that being said, I had restarted my third YouTube channel in January 2025. I believe it was January, it might have been right around February, but I'm pretty sure it was the during the month of January. Either way, it was very early in 2025. I'd taken a few months off. I noticed that Rumble was not gaining the same audience, it wasn't getting the same traction in a sense, and it just didn't seem like where a lot of people wanted to spend their time. So I decided to put a YouTube channel back up, and it took me months and months before I got all my videos up. I think it took almost six months, four to six months. Um, you guys, this this last like year and a half has just been a blur for me. So excuse me not having all the timestamps for this, but it was um it was a labor of love. It took me months regardless to get all my videos up. And when I finally did, I started doing my premieres again with the new episodes. And in the interim, I was only posting certain things on Rumble until I had caught up. With that being said, one thing I have noticed, and I am grateful for this, is that YouTube has, for whatever reason, starting in early 2025, they have stopped being so censored and so um strict when it comes to talking about these topics. And I don't know why that is. I don't know if that's because some of the more mainstream platforms decided to pick up certain episodes or bring survivors on their show on these very mainstream platforms who speak of the same things. And so having this information go a little bit more mainstream. Um, you know, it doesn't make sense if they're deleting all that content off of my channel and other channels, all other small channels, but then they're allowing it on all these big channels, which they did anyways. But it seemed like for whatever reason, there was a some type of a break in the algorithm where all of a sudden YouTube started not censoring this information as much in the sense of taking down episodes. That was something I dealt with a lot my first few years, my first four years of podcasting was every episode worrying about if it would get taken down. And I had many episodes taken down. I had strike after strike after strike. I really struggled to gain confidence on this platform. Every time I would post an episode or put one up, it was like sweating bullets and wondering if my channel was going to be terminated. Um, and the last time I had my channel terminated, I actually only had one strike on my channel before my channel ended up being terminated. So the way that YouTube does strikes is you get a warning at first. If you don't violate any terms and conditions, rules and regulations, community guidelines for 90 days, and you take this little training that they have where they ask you a bunch of questions about the rules and regulations and community guidelines of YouTube. Um, if you pass that exam and you go 90 days without further getting a violation, the warning goes away. And it's very similar when you get a strike. If you have a strike on top of your warning, you get an additional 90 days of penalty, where if you get another strike, then you get a second. And if you get a violation within another 90 days, then you get a third strike on your channel that's taken down. So essentially, if you do any type of violation and you do no other violation for 90 days, that original violation disappears. And so what ended up happening was I had a warning, and my last channel, all of a sudden, I had one strike, and then I had another violation come immediately after that, and my channel was just taken down. I didn't even get all three strikes. For some reason, YouTube just nuked my channel without going through all the proper steps that they say that they do. And um, it was very similar on my first channel as well. It just sort of nuked, and so that's also frustrating. Not knowing if one video or one clip is just gonna completely nuke your channel, and you're not going to get the decency of having the sort of three strikes you're out that YouTube supposedly offers. And so having come back on this platform for the third time, it was very refreshing for me to be able to post episodes and not get them taken down every time. And praise God, I don't have any strikes on my channel right now. So I have been going very strong and I'm really grateful for that. But with that being said, what I have noticed is instead of putting strikes on a channel, there has been an extreme effort in censorship of viewers. And so it has been increasingly hard. No matter how high my subscriber count goes, my viewer count on my videos stays very muted. It doesn't, um, it doesn't get elevated in the algorithms like my last channels did. Sometimes I would have a breakthrough in some of my episodes, my last channel, they would break through the algorithm and get a really good viewership, which was amazing for those guests who came on to have that type of breakthrough and for their story to get shared farther and wider. But I've noticed that instead of taking episodes down, now YouTube is just shadow banning and censoring videos and channels and making it very hard for them to be seen. So it's a whole different type of censorship. I would rather have this type of censorship than the last, but it is also very frustrating putting so much work into growing my channel to do to have done this three times and to see the and to feel and see with my own eyes the censorship that's being cast on my channel through the YouTube, um, the YouTube witches, let's put it that way. Um, they're casting spells on certain channels, and that's very evident, you know, you can just feel it. So, with that being said, there is a different type of censorship that is being cast on YouTube, and that is the spell of censorship and shadow manning. And so instead of having episodes that are just blatantly taken down, that's a little bit harder to do now in a very good way. They're allowing more of this material and these topics to stay up on YouTube. But what they're doing is for channels like mine who they don't want the narrative that I share on my channel to go out to the public. Um, there is definitely a shadow ban and a censorship and viewership over my channel and over other small creator channels that I speak to who say the same thing, that they they're getting more subscribers and their videos are still not being seen more, or YouTube is altering the numbers. And so one thing I would ask if if this show means anything to you at all, and if you're if you're benefiting from it in any type of way, whether that's through education, whether that's through a personal breakthrough that you've had with it, whether that's through a relationship of a guest that you've formed or somebody that you support, or just somebody that's moved you in any type of way, if you guys could just share episodes that mean a lot to you, recommend my channel for other people to watch. If you could share links on your own pages, it would mean so much because, like I said, YouTube isn't necessarily striking down videos as much as it used to, but now it's moving more towards the visibility and hiding channels from being seen to begin with. So it's been very frustrating, but I also have a lot of faith that we can break through the algorithms together and really help these stories shine through and help them be seen by a wider audience because they deserve it. Every guest on my channel deserves to be seen, to be witnessed, and to be heard by people who can and have the will to embrace and witness them. And so I would really appreciate if you guys could just help share my channel as much as you can, when you can, um, with people who you think would care about it, um, and just to just to help, um, because it's been a big struggle for me and it's very frustrating. Um, like I said, just putting so much work into this and then seeing the restrictions that are constantly thrown at creators who are trying their best to share real truth without sensationalizing, without profiting and making a million dollars, like a lot of these channels do, and um just trying to be genuine with how we help. And so if you could help me and any other small creator that that you appreciate who might be going through the same thing, it it really means more than you know, and it helps more than you know. Um, also something I haven't talked about a lot is I also have a Substack. Um, I try to be on every type of platform. So I'm on Rumble, I stream on Rumble, I stream on BitChute, I am now posting video on Spotify. So Spotify used to be audio only, and they now allow video, so I'm also putting video on Spotify. I have iTunes, um, Apple Podcasts. So those are the main platforms that I'm streaming from. But I also have a Substack where I occasionally will put out collaboration articles written with a survivor who submits an article or we collaborate on something, or maybe I feature their photography or their drawings or their art that they showed in an episode that we did together. There's many ways that I have collaborated with survivors in creating an article directly with them. But one thing I also do is after every episode that airs on my regular channel, I put an article together that shows where you can watch it, which is typically Rumble and YouTube I post. And then I also break down the main talking points. So I summarize the episode in a few paragraphs to help catch you up, or if you missed an episode, or if you really enjoyed an episode and just want to go refresh and see what it was about, you can go check out the summary. And then below that, I have timestamps along with the topics that were talked about when we switch topics. And then in those topics, I have subtopics and sub-bullet points that talk about the exact topics that were talked about in that topic bracket. So, for example, it'll start off sharing that I share an intro and it'll go over just a couple of points that I cover. And then after that, it'll move into the beginning of the episode. And for example, it'll say, you know, minute five through 15, the guest and host caught up. They talked about this, this, and this. And there'll be bullet points on the things that we talked about. Then it'll move into 15 to minute 15 to 30, for example, and talk about what we talked about during that time. So it's a really great resource for those of you who research, for those of you who want to keep up with what was talked about or want a refresher. And or if you are looking for a past episode and don't want to watch the full YouTube video, you can go through my Substack and look for that episode, go through the bullet points, find the timestamp, and it really helps just narrow down the points of the episode or um finding the episode of choice that you're looking for for one reason or another. So if you want to sign up for my Substack, I'll have my Substack article link, however, in the show notes, and you guys can go connect with me there. Um, and I would really appreciate it. That platform also is a wonderful platform to help get information out. They do not censor, which is really nice. Um, and so I have been very blessed there to be able to put this material up and to share things on there that I might not be able to put on YouTube as well, collaborating with survivors. So I'm gonna have that down below. And again, that's under my name, Emma Catherine versus my podcast name. Next, if you are somebody who wants to be a guest on the show, um, I used to say this during every episode and I haven't just because um I like to just really focus on the guest, and I would add in my intros connecting with me and how to do that. But I also know that if I'm not saying it, then somebody might not know how to connect with me if they're not looking at the show notes. So the best way to connect with me if you guys would like to be a guest on the show, if you are a survivor of Ramcoa, which is ritual abuse, mind control, and organized abuse, and or anything in between, you guys can email me. So my email, you can email me on Proton Mail, which is standby survivors at protonmail.com. Or if Gmail is your preference, I am on there as well at imagine a better world twenty twenty at gmail.com. So you can find me there. I'll have my substack below as well, and that is www.emacatherine.substack.com. Um, like I said, I'll have all these in the show notes, and I always have them in the show notes of every episode too, as long as I'm able to. Um then if you guys want to connect with me on other platforms as well, I have a link tree-ish app that I use called direct.me. Um, Linktree actually kicked me off of their platform for posting. I don't remember what they what they kicked me off for, but it was essentially um too graphic or I was supporting or harassing. I don't, I don't know. It's just some stupid, some stupid reason for kicking me off. But I started using direct.me instead of Linktree. So I will have that link below as well, and you guys can go through that and find me on every platform, including Spotify, including iTunes, um, and so on and so forth. And there's other little platforms that I'm out and on as well: Google Podcasts, um Podbean, um, what other ones? I forget. Amazon, I think, podcasts. So you guys can find me on a lot of different channels depending on where you are and want to be. Um, so I will have all those links below. Speaking of posting episodes, um, just as sort of a refresher if you're new here, I post three episodes a week. Sundays and Thursdays at 6 p.m. Central Time, I post new brand new episodes. So I have two long format episodes that are brand new every week, unless there's a rare time that I repost an episode or put something like this up where it's still a new episode, but it's not featuring a guest, it's just me, um, which I know isn't quite as fun, but sometimes it's necessary and it's good for me to come on and connect with you guys. Um, however, on those nights at 6 p.m. Central Time, there is a wonderful community of people that get together, and I have a live chat streaming on the episode. You guys can come in and hang out with one another. We have moderators and a community there that will embrace you with open arms. And you can come in and watch the episode live with us as it airs and connect with other people in this community. And so if that's something that you guys are interested in, I would encourage you and invite you to come join us and to come hang out every Tuesday and Thursday night and watch the new episodes with us at 6 p.m. Central Time. And then on Tuesdays at 6 p.m. Central time, I run what I call a movie night, which has been a really invaluable part of this podcast. I noticed that those nights don't get quite as much traction. However, if you go through my library and you look at my Tuesday night episodes, they are gems. They are diamonds in the rough. These are episodes that I have hand selected, been recommended, have watched myself, or um have found and uncovered that are paramount to pioneering the industry of the past of the survivor movement to where it is at today. So these might be old interviews of survivors, such as old ones by Kathy O'Brien, some of the first ones that she did, for example, and other survivors that have been speaking out for many, many years. I have unearthed and uncovered and reposted a lot of the old survivor testimony episodes that have um really helped us get to where we are today, some of the first ones that I watched and some that maybe you guys either have or haven't seen. So I have a lot of those archived on those Tuesday night episodes. I also have a radio series that I posted, a CK CK, I also have a radio series that I posted that was done in 1997, and it was called the CKLN Mind Control Radio Series that was ran over a period, I believe, of nine months that featured at the time experts, survivors, researchers, therapists, and advocates that were speaking out about these topics at the time before things really got shut down after the satanic panic era. Um, those episodes have been just incredible. And um, there's a lot of names in there that you guys might know or have even seen on the show. And there's also just incredibly invalid. Information, invaluable information on that series pertaining to dissociative identity disorder, pertaining to law, pertaining to understanding RamCOA and how this organized abuse system works. Also, lots of connections to how governments ended up getting into these occultic practices using mind control and the like and the history behind all of that. And so there's just really incredible resources on that series. I would highly recommend you guys watch that. I have the series posted under my playlists, and I also have lots of playlists of different guests and different topics. So that's another really great resource for you guys. If you guys don't want to go through every single episode or if you're new here and just looking for a place to start, um, the playlists are a really good place to do that. And I have that right on my front page of my channel, you guys can find. But like I said, the Tuesday nights are just awesome. I've had just really great responses from those of you who do tune into that. And I'm gonna continue posting. And if you guys have old interviews that I haven't aired yet, that you guys have found, if you guys have recommendations on older content, documentaries, on interviews, on research that you would like to see me post on that night or have me find for you, please leave that in the comments or you guys can reach out and email me and let me know your thoughts on that. I'm gonna be constantly trying to grow that. And you know, as I keep airing stuff, it'll it will get to a point where it'll be harder to find older content to post since so much of it has been wiped off the internet, and then so much of it now is hard to find as well. Um, but I would really love your input if you guys have some ideas on that. And that airs Tuesday nights at 6 p.m. Central Time, and there's also a live chat there, the same loving community. So come on in every Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday night to the live chat at 6 p.m. Central Time and come hang out with us. It's just a really beautiful, very loving and supportive community. There's survivors, TIs, advocates, people that are just hanging out, watching and learning. Um, and occasionally some of the guests from the podcast that you're actually watching the episode, they'll pop in and hang out with you guys too. And you'll have a really great opportunity to meet and mingle with them, ask them questions, and you know, offer them your support and uh and and compassion. So if you guys want to come in, we'd love to have you on those nights. I now want to shift into another topic, disclosure. So, since I've done one of these episodes where it's just me speaking, there has been a lot happened since last time that I did that, including things like the Epstein files being released. We now have UFOs that are uh UFO files that are being pushed out mainstream. So there is an effort now to manage the information that we know. And I want to put emphasis on information management because I think when these disclosures come out, when these different files are dumped, when information is dumped, you know, it can be really exciting. And it's not that the information that comes out is not true, but we have to be very honest in the fact that the government and supporting bodies of the government do not just dump information without an intention behind it. And there is a very big intention behind everything that they do, and there's usually multiple layers of reasons why they will do something like this. And so I just want you guys to be aware of those layers and you know understand that this is a managing of information, it's not a disclosure of all the information that's out there. Um, if you notice, for example, in the Epstein files, we know from listening to Survivor testimonies that Epstein was heavily embedded in MKUltra and MKUltra circles, whether directly or indirectly, and yet not a single mention of MKUltra or mind control was mentioned in those articles, even though there was information that we know is MKUltra and is mind control and is satanic ritual abuse, that is laid out very graphically in the files, the uh events and the ritualistic practices that were done to victims. However, the terminology of what we know these things as, in disclosure, as MKUltra, monarch, mind control, um, organized abuse, and uh ritual abuse, ritualistic abuse or satanic ritual abuse, those were the that vernacular is not to be found anywhere in the files. So we know that they're okay with letting the public know that these things are being done. They're okay with throwing some scapegoats out there, some names to make the public, you know, speculate about and talk about and gossip about um that partook and were partaking in these things. However, they are not disclosing the the big picture of what all these people were actually involved in. And um, that was very clearly MKUltra ritual abuse and organized abuse. And so you can see how information can come out that can still be true, doesn't always lead to the full picture. And um, if you notice during the public disclosures of anything having to do with Epstein, whether that's court or otherwise, that have been publicized mainstream with victims, um, there is no mention of any of any of these things, even though we know that that all of these things are very highly embedded, even though we know that all of these things are tied in very closely with the Epstein circle. So just be aware of that and take note of what's being shared, but also look through, try to look through the lines of what's being written and see what's not being said and realize that there's a reason why. And it's because they don't want this vernacular, they don't want this terminology to get out. They don't want people to realize that these are organized rings that are doing this, that are groomed generationally to be bred and to be placed into these positions of power in society, including from what it seems like Epstein himself was part of one of these families. Um, and we have lots of documentation of that on this podcast through Survivor Testimonies. Um, and so we have to always look at what's not being said and ask ourselves why. And um, you know, it doesn't take away from the gratitude of having some of this information leak out and for the public to be able to see and actually read for themselves what these people partake in in graphic detail. It's it's it's great that there's things coming out, but we also have to really push for disclosure to come out in a whole more holistic way that paints the bigger picture. So people that are reading and consuming and being shown this information on podcasts and headlines online are getting the big picture and not a management orchestrated of the big picture with painting the picture how the government and people involved want it to be seen versus how it is. And so, with that being said, we do have the UFO files that have come out. I have not at the time gone through all of them and read them. And I, from what I understand, there will be more. But what I do want to say is that we have to look at these files as well with a critical eye. And in listening to survivor testimonies, we know how closely the UFO, alien abduction, UAP, advanced technology disclosure movement parallels so closely and intertwined with MKUltra, with satanic ritual abuse, with ritual abuse, with mind control. And so it's our responsibility as people who are consuming the two sides of the story in the same podcast here, that we are also using a critical eye and demanding that these disclosure movements be placed together instead of apart. Um, that's been a really big struggle that I have had to contend with since doing this podcast. And I try to shine a bright light on that here is that UFOs and aliens may be in the sky, they may not be. Um, but where our government surely doesn't want us to look for them is here on our own soil, working with and interacting, working directly with our government and being involved in mind control programs. And the same thing with MKUltra, they want that movement and disclosure to be very separate from the UFO, UAP, alien abduction, alien conversation because they actually go together so closely. And we hear that in survivor testimonies, many, many, many MKUltra and monarch survivors testified that as children they were interacting with beings that sure looked like what we know as aliens um here on the outside. And also they were interfacing and interacting with advanced technologies that very, very closely resembled the UFO tech and from the shape and look of the technology to what these things have been disclosed to the public to actually do. Um, you know, and beyond that, there's been things disclosed on my podcast and from survivors that the information doesn't exist anywhere else in the world. You know, it's it's stuff that's so advanced that even society would have a very hard time grappling with its existence. But what I want to say is that, you know, the child trafficking is not just happening at the border, like what the government promotes and selectively shares. The aliens and the UAPs and the UFOs are not just flying around in the sky. Um, these things exist on our soil. They're happening on the grounds here in America and every single state, and obviously every single country too. I'm just singling out America, but these things are happening through our own government, by our own government, to our own US citizens here on our own US soil. So I just want to sort of bring you guys back to that and to have the conversations that we have, having watched survivor testimonies, to be those advocates that go out and help bring these conversations together. We really, really, really have to be the boots on the ground doing that. And we have to do it in a way that's that's helping bring information together to not be managed and compartmentalized, but to be to become whole and complete. Um, I say all the time with the UFO alien movement, unless we bring in MKUltra into the picture, unless we're bringing in these test these adult testimonies of when they were children, then people that are researching and looking into UFOs and aliens and abductions are just gonna constantly be running in a circle, running in a hamster wheel, because you cannot understand that phenomena without bringing in the government, without bringing in mind control programs, without bringing in the interfacing that these things interact, without bringing in the fact that, and without bringing in the conversation that children, innocent children, innocent brainwashed children, innocent brainwashed children with dissociative identity disorder are being used alongside of these different beings, these entities, these craft, these technologies. And so the conversations end up being just as compartmentalized as MKUltra does on a victim. They want that same compartmentalization from an information perspective thrown out to the public. And so I just ask all of you to be the advocates that we need. Like now is the time where we really need to push this information forward. And the information, however, is still coming out and being pushed heavily in a way that compartmentalizes it and does not combine it together. And that is very, very deliberate. That's one of the layers. Um they don't want us putting the pieces of these puzzles together. They want us to think through the Epstein files that these are very random people that came together and are committing crime in a trafficking ring. They do not want us to know that these people that are in these files are likely part of the same multi-generational families that we hear about here on the podcast, that this is an MKUltra RamCoa situation. This is an organized abuse system that's passed down and there are children involved. They want us to have a specific narrative that is out there that seems very random, that seems horrific, that seems like it doesn't make sense, and that makes people think of this as a situation that is happening by random adults onto random teenagers and young people. Um, and they don't want it to come out that this is not random at all. This abuse is very orchestrated, and it always has been. And these people work together because they're in the same families going through the same systems of abuse, torture, mind control, and organized abuse that their own parents did and that their children will, you know. So we really have to like reel people in and help them understand how all of this works and what's being left out, despite the things that are coming out still being true. That's how disinformation works. It's not that it's just all false information, it's that most of the information that comes out is true, but the 1%, the 2%, the 5%, whatever it is that is twisted, that isn't articulated, or that just doesn't said, that's the part that throws off how people consume that information, how they take it in and process it, and then their belief on it. And so we really have to be diligent with helping educate people on this and help bringing them back to survivor testimonies. And that goes also with the UFO alien disclosures that are going to be coming out for their own agendas. Um, but we really have to push connecting these dots together and pushing these compartmentalized movements together and showing people how interrelated they are, and that these are not separate things at all, but that they are um they're actually working together. And the the root of all of it is our government. And that brings me to my next point. Many of you may or may not know that we have hearings coming up on allegedly May 13th, which this episode that I'm filming may come out after that. Um, and I have also heard from different sources working close with this hearing online that there may be a delay in the hearings. However, this is a very monumental time. There has not been a hearing like this since 1995, in the sense of this being mainstream and focused on specifically MKUltra and the programs that are discussed here on this podcast. And so, with that being said, there is surely going to be an agenda behind this as well. There is going to be information that comes out about MKUltra. And my own theory on a lot of this stuff becoming mainstream is that because of podcasts like this, because survivors are coming together, because communities are forming, because they can no longer stop the information from reaching a broader public, they need to try to, again, manage the information that's coming out and do it in a way where they are disseminating specific information through specific channels, mainstream, to reach the broader public and to create the narrative that they want the public to know about these things, not the actual information that the public needs to know that is true, that is coming from survivors. So it's almost like a way to override the wave instead of the wave that's coming and that is here through all the survivors talking out, they're trying to bring a tsunami in to crash over the wave that's already started, that wipes out everything that um survivors have been saying, and that helps rewrite the narrative in a way that better suits the agenda of people who are trying very, very hard to create disinformation and to create um confusion about these topics to the public. And so it's a very, very confusing time in a sense. And again, I'm not saying it's it's a bad thing, it's a very good thing. And hopefully, people that are hearing about these hearings or hearing about survivors are going online and doing their own research, and it's bringing them to platforms like this that actually are showcasing real survivor testimonies that they can learn the actual information from that's not coming from the government. And that's what we always have to remind ourselves if there's information coming from the government, the government is not ever going to implicate itself. There will be an agenda and a reason why they are sharing things like Epstein files or UFO files. And usually those reasons are not for the greater good of survivors of these things or abductees or people who have been affected. It is to help protect the people behind it, the people that um that have a lot to lose for this information coming out. And so the information that comes out is usually being managed, it is not being disclosed. And so, with that being said, with these hearings supposedly coming, and again, there might be a delay on the date. Um, this is a really important time, and it's a time where we may not get a bigger opportunity than this in history to help push the wave that we need, which is truth, honesty, and integrity, and how this information is being shared with how it's being testified or going to Congress or being talked about in a congressional hearing. And we need to be the ones that help demand that survivors are being involved in these conversations that actually went through this, that we're advocating for justice and things like pensions, things like retirements, things like monthly stip-ins, things like health care, um, ways that we can support those that have been victimized by these programs. Um, because I don't see that being something that the government is going to come out and say that they're going to do themselves. However, these programs exist for every other type of trauma survivor, especially military, which is another government sector that creates a lot of trauma in people who go through those types of government programs. Um, and veterans have every right and absolutely deserve to have their monthly fees and payouts that they're given, along with retirement, along with good health insurance, along with uh medical benefits and the like. Um, veterans are they're deserving of the privileges that they have for having served. And with that being said, survivors of these childhood organized abuse systems, they entered a war and had to become and were forced to become a soldier of the war that they never consented to enter and that they lived for some decades. You know, some people have lived through a war for decades and decades and decades of their life and are given nothing for it and are gas-lit by the public. And you guys know how that goes from listening to survivors. And so we have to be the ones that advocate for that. We have to be the ones pressuring our government and people doing these hearings that are speaking about it publicly to do it in the right way, and that doesn't mean that it's going to happen. But to me, I think the only way that their title wave gets shut down by a wave that's even bigger is by creating a narrative that's larger than theirs and pushing information harder than they do. The only thing that Satanists in these cults and these networks and these agencies do better than us is organize and share information and do tasks and jobs and create agendas and follow through with things better than we do, which is really a shame because these people literally all hate each other. You know, they don't have relationships built on trust and love, they have relationships built on blackmail and programming and um trauma bonds and handling and you know, every type of betrayal imaginal imaginable. So, you know, if they can accomplish all of this through betrayal and through blackmail and all of this just horrific crap, you know, we can organize and do a much better job through actually telling the truth, through having integrity, through coming together, through advocating for compassionate measures for those victimized by these programs and by us standing as a united front and demanding the things that these Survivors and victims deserve, which is the transparency of the declassification of the documents that have been hidden regarding these programs, which is the benefits that they are entitled to through the trauma that they have gone through and the side effects that that has created in their life and the losses that that has created, whether that be financially, whether that be through relationships, whether that be through their health. It's endless and devastating how these how these abuses impact one life, you know, from a child that never asked to be victimized, you know, a child that was thrown into a war they never signed up for. And so we have to be the ones to really push that. And I think we can do it. I think now is the time. But I need all of your help for that. I need you guys to want to show up and be fearless and courageous and helping create a wave that's bigger than theirs. And, you know, just even in our own survivor community, for those of you who are in it and you know, already out there advocating, you know, we need to also stop going at each other's necks and uh creating issues within the community and the infighting and go after the real enemies and point our finger and expel the criticism and the rage and the hate and whatever else that we're feeling inside because of one reason or another. Um we need to really put that emotion and that um that drive into the real perpetrators and into people that are actually doing bad things and you know not on each other. Um, because I see that a lot and it's really sad. You know, like I said, there's there's evil people out there doing a really good job of for you know generations and millennia hiding information, doing evil things, committing crime, murder, you know, and keeping it totally hidden and growing what they're doing on exponentially year by year. And yet we can't override it because we're too busy being divided over things like politics and religion. And he said, she said, and this and that, you know, we have to really focus, get together and put our energy and our our focus and our anger and those emotions into advocating against the real enemies and the people who have shut survivors up for way too long. Um, and so I'll hopefully update you guys when and if those hearings happen and maybe have a whole podcast dedicated to it. Um, however, like I said, I've heard it might be rescheduled, so I didn't want to jump the gun and talk about that a lot if that's not something that's gonna happen. However, it was said it was going to happen and it might be rescheduled. So even if it doesn't happen on the 13th, this is still something that might happen potentially at another date. And so with that being said, um one thing I want to reiterate about things like the Epstein files, about the UFO files coming out, regardless of the information that is or isn't encompassed in that, one thing that that does prove is that survivors have been right all along, and that we have gaslit and told them that they were not telling the truth. There have been organizations like the False Memory Syndrome Foundation that were created. There were movements like the Satanic Panic that were created saying that they were wrong. There's been disinfo campaigns and smear campaigns on therapists who have advocated for dissociative identity disorder and in the childhood trauma that causes this. And it's just recently sort of come online and has started to become accepted as something that exists, even if the if the cause of it isn't widely talked about, which is childhood trauma. You know, we we're making strides even in um therapeutic communities and in medicine with acknowledging what these things are, and hopefully we can push that forward too. But like I was saying, these things prove without a shadow of a doubt that survivors were right. You know, like I said, they didn't directly come out and say MKUltra and satanic ritual abuse in the Epstein files, but everything that they said was these things. They're saying it without saying it. And these are the same things testified year after year, decade after decade by survivors. These same events that were talked about in the files have been talked about by survivors. And so we need to really support and uplift and get behind survivors, knowing that that information is out there and you know, really be on their side for it because this is a big, it's a big thing for them, even if what they went through wasn't said directly in the correct terminology. Um, that would help give it context to a greater public. You know, if the greater public were to read about satanic ritual abuse, if they were to hear the words MKUltra in these files or in these disclosures that came out publicly, it could help move things forward a little bit more, especially because so many survivors testify having gone through these specific things. But we can relate their testimonies to what has been talked about, which are specific tortures and abuses and trafficking and even mind control and drugging and things like that that we hear over and over and over again in testimonies. And so survivors have been right all along, and that's just a really it's a great thing to reflect on, and it's something that you can share with anybody that says, you know, that's a conspiracy or that's not true. Send them them the files, you know. And so many people have researched them. You can even look up certain things that were written about in the files and send specific files to people and say, Oh, it's not true. Well, what about this? You know, look what was look what came out in the files that the government released. You're gonna say that the government is lying, you know, and that can help sort of move conversations forward a little bit more. Same thing with the UFO files that are coming out, which I think there will be more disclosure with that as well. Um, but I just, you know, with everything that I'm doing and that I've done, you know, I I sometimes am so tired and exhausted and I feel burnout and I feel heavy. And I look at where we're at and I just feel very grateful. I feel grateful that I get to do this in this time and how how amazing that I get to be tired from all the things that I'm doing, you know, and and hopefully what I'm doing can lead further into it, and it can be something that I can do more because I feel so limited working a full-time job and um, you know, managing this on on the side, it does it takes a lot out of me. Um, however, it's just been such a great honor to do this, and I hope that you guys can find different ways to contribute. I know a lot of you want to get more involved, and I don't have all the answers for how you can do that, but I do know that you can do it if I can do it, and that there's so many different ways that you can use your imagination to help make the world better. It's the missing piece of everything, our imaginations. They've really stripped that from us as uh young, young children entering school to adults. They've really turned that off with us and have had us locked into a more logical, mathematical type brain that we operate in all the time. And it's gonna be our creativity and our imaginations that help us get out of where we're at. And that's what we need to really focus on tapping into is exploring that again and playing again and thinking what types of things can I create with my imagination that can that don't exist currently, that can help move move the world into a better place, you know, uh uh imagining a world without child trafficking and imagining a world without MKLTRA, imagining a world where every abuser, you know, suffers the penalty the penalties and um prosecutions that they deserve. Um, and also that imagining a world where all victims and survivors get get the help that they need and the resources financially and otherwise. And that, you know, there's there's so much that we can create. There's so little that has been created to help that now is just an amazing opportunity to take that creative energy to use your imaginations and to ask yourself what it is that you can do to contribute because all of you can do something. It doesn't even have to be a lot, but we can all do something, and all of us have that creative power in us. It's just we've really forgotten about it, it's been so stifled and shut down and stuffed inside, but it's really the missing piece, and it's the key to all of this. So also for all of you out there who might be suffering or struggling. Um please keep going, hang in there, you're not alone. It's going to feel like that sometimes, and I'm heartbroken that you feel that way at any point in your life because you're not alone, you're cared about, you're loved, you're appreciated. This world would not be what it is without you. You're worth everything, you're here for a reason. Your testimony, your story, no matter what it is, you don't have to have gone through something like some of the guests talk about on my podcast for your trauma, for what's for the darkness in your life to matter. And I just ask you to explore again, finding ways that that you can use that and create something from it that can help yourself and others, and that the darkness that you're experiencing now is not the final destination. That's just a part of the path. It's something we all go through. Um, what you see online is not accurate with people. People like to post themselves being perfect and to make their lives look absolutely perfect and their makeup and their family life and their home and their marriage. It's not perfect. And sometimes the most perfect looking people or things have the absolute most dysfunction behind behind all of it. And so don't compare yourself. You know, they say comparison is the thief of joy. I think the um the quote is, and that's actually very true in a lot of ways. You know, it's sometimes it's good to compare to somebody that you want to be and to let that motivate you, you know. Say if you're a survivor and uh you're just starting your healing journey, it can be really motivational to compare yourself maybe to somebody who's gone through a long healing journey and to say, wow, I can do that too, you know, if I just do this, this, and this. And so sometimes comparison can be really healthy, and other times it can really rob us of of seeing the light, you know, if we're looking at things in in the inverted way of I'll never be enough, or I'm not this, or look what all these people have, or or I'm the only one who who's suffering or who doesn't have a good life, I'm the only one that doesn't matter, I'm the only one, you know, who who doesn't feel like getting out of bed in the morning and who feels like crap and who's just overcome with all this darkness and the sadness and the sorrow. And I promise you, you are not, you are not the only one. You're not alone with that. Everybody goes through that. And like I said, sometimes the people that look like they have it the most together, have the most shit that they're carrying around on them, you know, in this invisible backpack that just weighs a million pounds. Look at the the the people that are talked about on my podcast. I mean, oh my gosh, thank God you're not them, you know. And I would I don't mean the survivors talking, I mean their families and the abusers that they talk about. You know, I just did a podcast recently where my guest was like, you know, healing and what I went through is so hard and it's it feels impossible sometimes. But I think to myself, like, at least I am not my abusers. At least I broke the cycle, at least I'm not perpetuating and going through what these people are every day. You know, I'd much rather be where I am. And so I think that's like a healthy way to look at comparison and to look at what we could be instead and what you decided not to become. Like, oh my gosh, the things that you walked away from to grow out of such a dark situation to bloom into this beautiful flower that you know the the other people in your family in your life never could have and can't. You know, what you did is just incredible being able to overcome the things that you have. And I just ask that you please just take some time and just nurture yourself and pat yourself on the back and let yourself know that you're doing a good job and that there is hope on the other side, there's light on the other side, there is um a beautiful, beautiful life waiting for you, and people who love you, and people who are waiting to love you still, and opportunities that are awaiting you, and just the whole world is waiting for you, you know. So just remember that when you're in that darkness and you're in that sorrow, this does not diminish that, and you are allowed to feel that, and it's healthy to feel it, but please know that that's not your final destination and that that's just a stopping and a resting point, and to just please keep going. And so, with that being said, you guys, thank you so much for tuning in. I'll try to do you know, one of these at some point, sort of soon, to help catch up. And uh, if you guys have certain requests on things that you want me to talk about or questions you have for me, leave them below in the show notes. Also, connect with me on Rumble, connect and follow me on um Substack, Spotify, iTunes, wherever you guys are able to just connect with me. Um, I'd really appreciate it. Also, Instagram and X, and I'll have all of that in my direct.me below. You guys can just click there and connect with me. But with all that being said, you guys, thank you so much for listening. God bless you all, and we will see you next time.