TIP 'Movie Night' | Fritz Springmeier - Illuminati Human Cloning & Immortality (Free Your Mind 2013)

Did the global elite crack the code to physical immortality decades ago? In this episode, we break down Fritz Springmeier’s highly controversial 2013 presentation, "Illuminati Human Cloning & Immortality," delivered at the Free Your Mind 2 Conference on April 14, 2013.

Fritz Springmeier, author of 'Bloodlines of the Illuminati', argues that human cloning is not a futuristic concept, but an active tool used by a global network to replace leaders, control societies, and extend their lifespan indefinitely. We unpack his claims regarding underground bases, accelerated aging, consciousness transfer, and the dark intersection of cloning with trauma-based mind control.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:23

I wanted to have it focused on Mark and the other organizers and volunteers. The dedication that they had is all this dedication. Just as Mark was talking about, just a church of this, if I'm holding it up as an example for all of us, what we can do. So thank you, Mark. When they called me and asked if I would be a speaker, I said, What's the subject of the conference? And they said there's three things. There's consciousness, mind control, and open knowledge.

SPEAKER_04 1:10

We all speak on all of them.

SPEAKER_05 1:16

And uh when one of the things that I wanted to start out with is if you are seeking the truth, if you're walking in the truth, like Mark was showing you, you are free. The truth will set you free.

SPEAKER_03 1:38

You are free and they are the slaves.

SPEAKER_05 1:41

I don't care if they're walking around with big egos and they're thinking that they're the masters, they're walking in darkness, they're lost. And as I worked with Illuminati uh members, I realized how dark their world is and how enslaved they were. And I worked for eight years with Illuminati slaves to try to get them free. And uh in fact, someone from New York City, he was a doctor, after I got Cisco free, where she had alters, that's personalities, that uh were programmers, and we invited people from around the world to come into our house, and uh they could live with us, and we would give them whatever help we could. And this doctor from New York City came, and when we sat down initially with him, he had he had done a therapist for 20 years and never gotten any help, and he had a double bind. See, the Illuminati programming that they do with their own children, this trauma-based mind control, creates double binds. The double bind is where there's no solution. You see, no, how can I turn? What way can I what can I do? And then, of course, the only way that they want you to go is the way they want you to go. And he said, I can't, and you know, we started talking to him about what he saw with this programming, and he said, I'm trapped. And we told him, Yeah, it looks that way, but you can walk through the walls for the programming. Start walking through them. And he did. He he listened to what we were saying, he walked through the wall that he thought that he never could go through, and he started laughing from the belly. I think he laughed in about 20 minutes. The sense of freedom that he got. Now, one example uh of what a double bind would be would be if you were going through the jungle, like let's say Vietnam with your squad, and you came upon an ambush. Now, when they ambush you, they know how you're gonna react and they're set up to take advantage of them. And the long-range patrols, the the elite American troops learn a trick to beat an ambush. Do you know what that is? What it is is when you get ambushed, you do the exact opposite of what you would think. The first reaction would be is to fall down or to run. No, as soon as they got into an ambush, they would charge the enemy and they would run at him, and uh they would overrun the enemy, which would be surprised and destroying the ambush. That's how you get through a doppelbind. You walk through it. Okay, so don't forget that you're free and they're the slaves. We're going to talk about immortality, and then we're going to talk about the Illuminati. Now, I need to clarify what the Illuminati is because here in America we use language in a very sloppy way, and everybody has their idea of what that word means. I think everybody knows what immortality means. I don't need to explain that. The Illuminati has been around. You know, we've been using a term in recent years, the powers that be, or I use the term the powers that should not be. And those powers have been around for a long time. There was never a point in history where the elite that were controlling us, the masters, the godlike men that ran around with their serfs and slaves. There was never a time in history where they decided, you know what, we're tired of running this world. Let's just turn it over to the scum of the earth. They never did that. We thought that when we did the American Revolution, we got away from that. But they quietly snuck in their bloodlines, and that's what my bloodlines of the Illuminati is about, is that they continued with their elite bloodlines, they continued with their corporate control, they continued the control. Uh, they just did it in a more sneaky way. So we're going to talk about some of the ways of how this control is brought about, and in relationship also to immortality. This subject I'm going to talk about tonight to you, actually, I have had on my heart and mind for about 30 years. But timing is everything in life, and I never felt like it was the right time to talk about it. And in 1997, I came out with the book Deeper Insights, which is a sequel to my formula book on mind control, on the trauma-based mind control, and I gave in an appendix, I gave a chapter on cloning and mind consciousness transfer, which is what we're going to talk about tonight in depth. So I did give a little glimpse, but in the middle of a multitude of books and hundreds of pages, that was that kind of you know went unnoticed because I didn't really highlight it. So this is my first public talk where we're going to address this issue. It could arguably be said that that immortality is the biggest secret. I know there's several big secrets that the Illuminati and the cult world have, but this might possibly be the biggest secret. And my talk today is not based on anything that the spirit gave me or anything that somebody who was an insider gave me, which is one reason why I have hesitated to use it as a subject for a talk. And then I got a confirmation yesterday with Freeman's talk. He laid the groundwork of what I'm going to be talking about tonight, and that was confirmation to sit to myself. Thank you, Spirit, for confirming that this was a good time to talk about this. This is the fountain of eternal life in Cleveland. It's man rising above death. Now, this is the infinity symbol. It never ends. It's a figure eight, okay? And it's one of the uh symbols that the Illuminati use. Oh, and and I needed to uh define who the Illuminati are as as often the term as I'm using it. Um these are powerful satanic. I know people don't like that word, um, but I'm gonna use it anyway. Because I I've worked with, you know, I've been face to face with hundreds of people that worrying a little naughty or trying to get out of us working with the mind control. And in the deeper parts of their mind, they are satanic. Now, you have to bear in mind when I say that, uh, if you understand MPB, multiple personality disorder, you might have someone who's a Christian, a humanist, and then in the deeper parts of their mind, they're a Satanists. So they're they're all over the place. Okay, so don't think that when I'm talking about someone who's in Illuminati, he's going to be walking around in in the world dressed like Anton Levet. No, but he's probably going to be a Christian minister. Um for 6,000 years, the Illuminati, at least I'm wrong, have been on a quest for immortality. And it's my contention that they have actually found some answers, and that's what we're going to discuss tonight. You know, I intentionally picked this picture here, which is kind of blurry and a little bit surreal. It's an actual picture, but it's surreal too, because I thought that that kind of represented the subject that we're talking about. There's different ways of getting immortality. And one of them is to have a city or a river or a mountain or a planet named after you. So Pennsylvania, you know, or Alexandria, uh, Egypt is named after Alexander the Great, or St. Petersburg after Peter the Great. Another way is what you see here, here they preserved the body almost immortally. I mean, they've been able to recover the DNA from these mummies, and um their the DNA is intact enough that it can be used for cloning. Um, and and they have been, you may have heard it in the news recently that they've talked about cloning dinosaurs and stuff like that to raise the question, should we be doing this? Okay. Those of you who have been around me the last twenty-five years, if you were in a restaurant, probably saw me pull out a napkin and and handwrite this. There are three words here arcane, esoteric, and occult. Now they sound different, but they have exactly the same meaning. Arcane, esoteric, and occult mean hidden knowledge. All right? Now, knowledge is power, and I'm going to tell you how they use knowledge to get power. Okay, and this has been my little diagram that I have done for people over the years repeatedly. And we're gonna break it down, makes it all clear to people. So the first thing that I do to create a power base is to say, I have secret knowledge. Okay? Now, whether I do or not, it's irrelevant. By saying I have it, you have to come to me for that secret knowledge. I've created an instant power base, right? So that's number one here. And it has to be knowledge that you're really interested in. So it's especially good if it's saving Gnostic occult knowledge, like, hey, I can I got the secrets of immortality, right? I'm gonna give you immortality, and you have to come to me for this. I'm using this as my power base. Of course, if I gave you everything, if I told you everything I supposedly knew, I would give my power base away. So the next thing is, is I have to give it away at manchromes. So how am I going to do that? Well, for instance, in Freemasonry, you have a degree system where I pay like maybe uh $110 per degree, and I go up, you know, in the in the blue lodge here, I've got three degrees, and then the next one in the red lodge, I've got up to the 32nd degree, and then the top level here is the Supreme Counsel, the 33rd degree. So as I rise up, I'm going to be given higher levels of knowledge. So I start here and they're saying, okay, the G stands for God. All right. And then I get up here, oh, the G stands for Gnosis, you know, secret tone. Or then I get way up here, and they're saying, oh, the G stands for genitive principle, you know, to bugger a little boy. Um, so this was the high how how they give you an increments this occult knowledge that they have. Now, there's different ways that this is done, like the Watchtower Society. Um they make you dependent on what they call the mother of God by coming out with the Wake and Watchtower magazines. They're staggering, they come out every two weeks. And they tell their lines that you must be in touch with the mother of God. Okay, so they're making you dependent on the organization. The third element is that they divide this into three basic tiers. That's because you can't get the control out of the common version. Uh, you have to have you have to have a layout, right? So this is this will be called in some groups the laity, and this is the clergy, right? Or your priesthood here. You've got three groups, and then the top of the pyramid is your controlling organization, and usually right here, they put a false front in, so that like with the Jehovah's Witnesses, you've got the great crown, and they're promised life on earth. You've got the anointed, and they're promised life in heaven, immortal life in heaven, and then you've got the governing body up here, which with which is the false front and then your extreme course. So this basic pattern is repeated countless times. And um, sometimes they subdivide these different three tiers, but you'll still see the three basic tiers. So if we take that pyramid and we lay it on its side and we look at how the Illuminati, the string pullers look at it, in the center are these Illuminati members who know each other. The head of the Watchtower Society is going to get on the phone and call the head of the Mormon Church. They know each other, they they they collaborate with each other, the string pullers. And then outside of that is the controlling ruling body, at least that the public knows about. And then out here is your priesthood group, and then out here are your common people. And this is the perfect control mechanism because uh right here, let's say this piece of five years, Jehovah's Witnesses. You have them fighting the Mormons, have them fighting the Catholics, have them fighting another group, New Age group, or whatever. So the you divide and conquer, it's divide and conquer. The people on the outside there being control never rebel against the sinner. If they would rebel against the actual string pullers, the priesthood group is going to act as a buffer, and then you got another buffer here. So these are false partitions in here. For instance, I had uh if grand dude was um homeless and jobless, and he was in my house, he was a Mormon, he went to the Mormon employment agency, and they got him a job on staff with the Church of Scientology. That's the type of false part, that's the type of incidents that you will see numerous times once you realize that these are false partitions between the different groups. So, like the Knights of Columbus, which is uh a Catholic fraternal organization, since the 60s has been having high-level meetings to coordinate things with the Freemasons. But most people think that they're enemies, and they get all their insignia badges from the same company. So these are false partitions here. And what has been, as you might imagine, one of the best books for creating a uh religion that people are going to give their control over to you? Immortality. That has been a favorite subject. And I might interject to you that uh, you know, uh Christ said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, except um uh all those who uh believe on me shall not perish but have everlasting life. That's John 6.14, and then the most famous verse, holy most of you hurried sometime, John 3.16, for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten sin, whoever believes in him should not perish to have everlasting life. Okay, we're looking at um Christ, the the scriptures promising eternal life, and um what would pull the rug out from Islam, from Judaism, from Christianity? What would pull the rug out from underneath those? If the Illuminati, if the power brokers could all of a sudden say, hey, we can give you immortality, that's going to wipe out those religions. Now, this is this is my what I've been seeing 30 years ago up to now. I have been, and when I introduce this to people, they have I haven't gotten necessarily a positive um I second that. But uh that's okay because I still have not changed my view, and that is I see these power brokers are very confident in where they're going with their agenda, and they are going to they want to bring in a world religion, and they are convinced that they can totally wipe out all the other world religions. And I ask myself, how what is the thing that would unravel all these other religions? And to me, it seems like to use the idea that we can give you immortality would do it, and you would you have to come to our system and you have to subscribe to our system. People are impulse wires, they're not going to want to wait around until they die to find out whether they got immortality. Now, recently there was a narrow surgeon, and his book is um a bestseller, and he was skeptical about God. He was he was a scientist, you know. He he thought that there were all these scientific theories about an afterlife. And then he had a near-death experience. I think it was like 25 or 30 days he was his body and mind were dead. And um, amazingly, he did come back, but he had a near-death experience where he experienced Kevin. And when he came back, he realized that all these scientific explanations that he had did not hold water. Okay, so his book is out there. I haven't read it, I just scanned it. Um, and I may mention it again later. So there, but how many people are gonna wait till they die to find out whether their religion was accurately going to give them immortal life? Like I say, people are impulse spiders. So it seems to me like if they could come along and say they have immortality, boy, that would that would really get people in their camp um stampeding, like some of the other things that they have the cells. This is the ball. It uh translates in English, eternal soul. Uh from the ancient Egyptian way of looking at things, the sun was the ball of the sun god. And uh every day there was a rebirth, there was a union of the ba where you had Roth and Osiris in union, it was the he had two Ba's. And what's interesting was is back in ancient Egypt, the Kalm of people, right? The bottom of that, the bottom third of the pyramid, were not believed or held to have a ba. Imagine that. We weren't we weren't uh we weren't allowed to have a eternal soul. Now there's a similar word to ba, that's ka, which means life force. And when the pharaoh died, his ba would go back to its creator, but it could also, as you see here, hover over it. And this is this ba here is also related to the next thing we're going to look at, which is the wind globe wing sum disk. And we learned uh much about the ba in the Book of the Dead. That's our clearest illustration of the ball. This is the winged sun of disc. Charles St. Russell, who was of an Illuminati bloodline, the Russell bloodline, he uh used the Winged Sun discs on his books. And this is uh one of his uh seven-volume series that was attributed to him that was called Study in the Scriptures. Um and there's a reason why I'm bringing out uh about about Charles Stage Russell and the Jehovah's Witnesses, is because my B. Wise Asserts book, as well as a number of the other books, went in great length to show how the Watchtower Society was a pump for the Illuminati. And what's interesting about their beliefs is that they do not believe that you have an eternal soul. They believe that sometime in the future that uh that uh your consciousness is going to be downloaded, you'll be given a new body, and then that that consciousness put back into that body. And that's what I'm proposing that the Illuminati are already doing. And that it's interesting that that's how they see that you're going to get eternal life. Um, that got them into conflict with standard Christian theology. It might seem like splitting hairs, but the Christian theology, which is based on the New Testament, which talks about there's some seed, something in your body that you have today is going to be a seed to create the resurrection body. Now, whether you want to think of that as DNA or something else, um, but it's there's going to be a seed involved. In other words, there's going to be some link between the your body now and the resurrection body and eternal life. So that theologically got the two parties in in uh having a difference of home. Now, here you see another on the left, something else that uh came out from the Watchtower Society, again with the winged sun disc. And then on the right-hand side is from another organization, the Theosophical Society. Charles H. Russell knew about the Theosophical Society, and um, which also is another front for the same people that I was talking about. And both of them liked to use the winged sun disc. And as you can see here, the you've got the center, uh, which is the sun, and then you've got the wings, and um the the winged sun disc has several meanings to it, and I don't want to imply that it has only one meaning, because what we had is we had the mystery religions stretching from India to the British Isles, and their priesthoods sent mint uh representatives to a grand council, which was the Illuminati. They were controlled all that way in antiquity, and they were using those principles of control that I was showing you earlier, where these mystery religions were saying we have secret occult knowledge, and you need to become dependent on us.

SPEAKER_16 26:35

Okay, and that's the way they were doing it.

SPEAKER_05 26:38

And so, in in these different localities, there were different interpretations or meanings to the winged disc. Uh, in the Assyrians, the circle meant eternity. But the the meaning that I'm focusing on for the winged sun disk is that it's the soul on its flight back to its creator. Okay. Now we can also read represent the victory of horse over setup, which is good over evil or life over darkness. It could represent that too. And uh in Mesopotamia, a Huron Maza was represented by the wind, yes. And then in India, the Avatar Vishnu was. So it has different meanings, but the meaning that I'm focusing on is the soul on its flight back to its creative. This uh is just as it says, uh it's it's speculated to be immortal because it's lived so long, nobody knows how long the uh bristle cone pine lives. And I'm I'm going to show you some species of plants and animals that are mortal. Uh the oldest known bristle cone pine was 4,800 years. In practical sense, I'd say that was immortal. Some jellyfish are immortal, and uh the hydra, uh no, this isn't the hydrate, but it's uh this is uh uh dermatopsis dorny, which is an immortal jellyfish. And you can you can grab this jellyfish and do whatever you want to, poke it, cut it, you know, beat it up, um, you know, turn it inside out, and the thing regenerates itself. You can't rip this like a bad now. Now, this is a hydra, and the hydra is also immortal, and it contains stem cells capable of continuous proliferation. They an endless supply of these stem cells, uh, regenerating stem cells. And uh what allows it to do that? Well, it's got the Fox O gene. Interesting that they gave the name to that gene, Fox, because we earlier this this week at the conference, we saw that Fox could represent 666. But anyway, the Fox gene is what gives the hydra um its ability to be immortal. And what's interesting is is in centurions, people that live over 10 or 110, they have very active FOXO genes. So um it's very possible that manipulation of that gene in humans to keep it active like it is in the hydra is one of the solutions to immortality. Um what normally happens though for us is our stem cells decrease, become less active, and as they decrease, our muscle tone is lost and um we decline. And like I was immortal. Now, when I chose the topic of immortality, I uh was thinking, okay, well, uh I'm speaking to Americans, and although I'm speaking to probably an enlightened group, there may be some that still have American attitudes of there's a magic pill, uh magic uh bullet that will solve our problem, you know, microwave answers. That's what I encountered when I started working with the mind control, the trauma-based mind control, is I had people that were eager to help me, but they all flaked out on me because we didn't get microwave answers. Um, well, there isn't a magic pill to immortality, okay? And and the way to make an analogy to tell you what we're up against is let's say you wanted an oral car. Well, the quality of material you use to make that car is going to determine its durability. Now, they this is an ETSL. They made a durable car in the 50s, the ETSL. And it was so durable that nobody needed to buy new models and went out of business. But um now mechanics are telling me that they're making cars with the wiring. The wiring is is so uh transitory that they know that the wiring will go bad in two years. So these new cars that you're buying have a lifespan of about two years. Yeah, planned obsolescence. So then the care that you give your car, you know, how you house it, maintain it, the quality of the fuels and foils, um, that's going to determine how long it stays. And then the ability to restore it if it gets damaged. So these are the kind of issues that we're looking at for people to get immortality, right? We're gonna discuss these because uh the quality of material that can be used that pertains to genetic manipulation, right? Well, this is Henrietta Lacks. She was a black woman that in January 1951 was diagnosed with the stage one cancer tumor at John Hopkins uh hospital. And then they, without her consent, took a sample of that tumor and gave it to a Dr. Gray, and they discovered, and she went ahead and died. Um, they discovered that this that her cells from this that they uh from the sample were immortal, they can live outside the body, and so they have been harvesting these cells continue to clone themselves to duplicate, and they don't stop. And they have been doing that since 1951, and they have gotten over 20 tons of cells for scientific experiments from her line of cells, and they have been used in countless uh scientific experiments. They're uh they're sold all over the world. In fact, that's what everybody wants to use, and they called her immortal cell line the um Hilo. This is Adam Wilson, he's a bioengineer um with the University of uh Wisconsin. And what he's doing is his cat that he's created reads the mind, reads the conscious mind, and he's putting uh he put something up on Tweedo with his cat reading his mind. Um and he is interested in taking this one step further where you implant the brain uh so that your mind is being read with these implants which will connect to the internet, and then your mind can be part of the global line of the beast computers and the internet and everything, and it can all be one global line. So that's where he would like to take this. Now the stealth planes are just like I'm written, they're piloted with the computers. They had multiple computers reading the pilots. Um here we see the bomber and the fighter. The the stealth planes are piloted by uh uh thought control. And again, we see uh reading the pilot's mind, and so we're going to discuss this concept of uh some more. Um the the military has been um doing uh further projects besides just this. Uh DARPA has an avatar program, which uh Freeman talked about, and uh that's some learning transfer technology that they have that they're taking to outer space. And uh one of the one of the people that's involved with this research is Dmitry Gitzkov, and he's head of what's called the 2045 initiative, and that group is working, and they say that by 2045 they will have the ability to download consciousness into a computer. Now, what I want to suggest to you is it's because over the many years that I've been researching the Illuminati, I I keep coming across here and there the proof that they're probably 30 years at least ahead of us in the technology that we know, and maybe even more. So I'm gonna suggest if if he's saying that we can do this in 45 years, I'm gonna suggest that they're already able to do it. Okay, and um so he's working hard to make the body is working to make the body to be an accessory. What do I mean by that? It means your mind can be downloaded somewhere, they give you a new body, they download that consciousness in there, and then when that body wears out, they download the consciousness to the new body, right? You can pick whatever body you want, I guess. Um and can that be done? Remember, I was talking about uh the neurosurgeon who wrote the bestseller that's out there now, Proofs of Heaven, uh, who had the near-death experience. When I scan read it, he mentioned the book, Irreducible Mind, which that book that came out in 2007 shows scientific evidence that the consciousness can be indeed separated from the body. So this isn't something theoretical, but they've proven that the conscious consciousness can be separated from the body, which is very interesting because remember Freeman's talk where he talked about um uh Akhenaten's family, and he was talking about how and uh I don't know how many heard it, so I'll I'll just briefly touch on this. But he talked about how our president Bobana's family, his wife, and two girls are identical to King Tut's father's family, and um identical. It's it it uh really uh makes you wonder if we're looking at clones there. These towels were cloned. Technically, if you're a farmer, you call them a cat. And these are clone pigs, and I'm going to give you some highlights that I had on time-wise on cloning because most of us haven't really been following it closely. In 1952, they announced that they had cloned a frog. In 1970, Lord Rothschild uh he recommended that the United Nations have an agency to license and control human cloning, and in 1977 was the first public announcement of someone being cloned, someone who was very wealthy, but they kept the name of this person secret. And um then uh in 81 they announced mice had been cloned. And then in 97 they again announced that humans have been cloned, and then in 2002 they said 100 people had been cloned. So we've got people being cloned in 1997. Because the idea still seemed to us sci-fi, I gave in the deeper insights book the steps that you would need to take to clone a person. Technically, to clone a person is no more complicated than it is to clone a cow or a pig. It's it's there's a few little differences in the steps, the procedures, but as far as complict uh complications, it's just as easy. And I'm going to suggest to you that the Illuminati not only have the motive to uh clone and to transfer to consciousness, but they have the means. And if they have the motive and means, what's that mean? It means that they're doing it. That's the way I operate, you know. Little uh one plus one equals two. So here are some here here are the steps if you were to clone a person, right? I'm gonna try to read through this real quick, but to give you give your mind a little bit of that assurance that it's just a straight technique, right? So the ovaries will are gonna be monitored, and the ocyte is going to be taken with some uh follicule fluid, and then they're gonna give the donor some clonophene citrite, uh citrate, so that they can harvest several eggs at one time. Then they're going to incubate that oocyte till it matures, and then they're gonna take some semen and centrifuge it till they get it to the proper uh concentration. And then the donor's nucleus is going to be fused with a mycopy fed, or they could use an inactivated syndivirus, and then the human nucleus transplant will be cultured until it's oh about 8 to 16 uh cell stage, and then it'll be placed into the foster mother by a catheter into the cervical canal, um, into the interior of the uterus. So it's it's just a straightforward procedure, people. This is not something real complicated. They've been cloning all kinds of mammals, don't you think that they have the ability to clone people? Um and indeed that they've been announcing that. So that's what I'm um suggesting is that uh, and this is from my big Bransight's book where I'm giving uh some details with how gene cloning the gene cloning staff. Um and then this was a Time magazine. If you'll pardon me, uh will there ever be another you, you know. Um, these are telomers. Well, we're talking about longevity, and there's actually a product, a product B that supports telomers because there were um recently they made the breakthrough in uh discovering how they can stop telomers from shortening. Short telomers are used to be called junk DNA by the scientists. I knew when I heard that years ago that they hadn't be wrong. Nothing in our body is junk. Um, but they used to call it junk DNA, which they then they discovered that as the telomers shorten, when they get to a certain length, you die. It doesn't matter if you're healthy or what. The length of your telomeres, which are those those white things at the tips of the chromosomes, are related to the aging process. So um they have been working on things to to slow down or even reverse the shortening of the telomers. That's what the chronic is all about. Now, Thomas Parr, he was uh his reported to be 152 years. Now, whether that's true or not, that that's a little debatable, but I brought I I show his picture because I'm trying to give you life and life more abundant. And one of the tools of control over us is that they keep us sick. Okay. When you're weak and sick and not feeling well, you're easier to control. So one of the things that I put a lot of energy into is trying to reverse that. So that people take responsibility for their health and live a full, healthy, active life. Well, that's what Thomas Parr had. He was eating simple food, and King Charles of England heard that he had a subject that was 152 years old, so he invited him to the palace. Do you know the rest of the story? Well, here's the rest of the story. Killed him. The rich food killed him. So I think that that's a lesson that we need to pay attention to what we eat. You know, there's a reason why Monsanto and the world system is giving us this junk food, this GMO. They're trying to actually, to be more specific, I hate to say this, but the truth of it is it's genocide. It's actually a genocidal agenda. And the stuff that they're feeding us is genocidal. This year, I'm going to have to give up corn because the new corn that they're coming out with, they spliced in uh a particular DNA which neuters you as a man. It will shut down your stuff for being active. And um, if you want to have kids, I I want to continue having kids, um you know, then you're gonna have to give up corn, the one or the other. Um the oldest verified um person by modern means lived to 122 years old. Now, of course, modern means, you know, birth certificate gets their social security college or whatever. Um, we've got a lot of reports throughout history that are not verified by modern means of people living longer. But uh what's really interesting, and I said I was going to talk about Pennsylvania, is in going and looking at areas that have longevity, Pennsylvania has longevity. There were at least seven verified people, verified by modern means, that had lived over 110 from Pennsylvania. And the oldest living person, Sarah canals, 119 years, 97 days, the last I saw on the count. And uh, she's from Pennsylvania. So over 500 Americans have lived over 110 years, and that's interesting because uh in the Word of God it talks about originally uh people lived about a thousand years, and then there was uh a point in time where that switched to 500, and then after Moses it said that the days of a man would be 120 years, and that's pretty accurate. 120 years seems to be the limit right now, but can that be changed? Um here's poor uh Tom's uh gravestone. Uh now it the the whole subject of the Illuminati and immortality, it's interesting how fiction sometimes is used by the world system to reveal a lot of truth. You know, what they say is tricky turns out to be fiction, and what they're telling us is fiction may have truth blended in. They blur the two. And so there's a book that came out, The Illuminati of Immortality, Alchemic Dreams, and the Cybersonic Quest by Wayne Solomon. I just thought it was interesting because on the cover of it, they have like a boss or a winged sun disk on on the it's just somebody knows if the Illuminati is interested in immortality and and their and and and the law and all of the rest of this. Um so I think we can take some clues from uh fiction. One of the things is is, and and I like the way Mark presented it, you know, that we should be dedicated to truth. And when I started in researching the powers that be, powers that should not be, the Illuminati, I wanted to let the facts lead me wherever they led me. Because I believe that God is truth, and so wherever I find truth, I'm gonna find God. And, you know, there are people that say, okay, it's a Jewish conspiracy, oh, it's a Catholic conspiracy. Well, it's beyond labels, people. It's just an evil conspiracy. But what was interesting was is that I encountered a connection that seemed to have escaped everybody, and that is I kept finding all the roads led back to the small country to Scotland. Scotland, all things. The Highlanders, it's like, man. And so when I saw this come out, where it was about uh the Highlander has immortality, of course, it's only 400 years, but I'd say 400 years is in practical terms immortality. But uh it was it was very interesting. Um, the whole series, and the whole series got involved with uh all kinds of occult stuff that connect in with the occult in the Illuminati. Um now uh Billy Meyer and I'm not I'm not presenting this to tell you to think one way or the other about Billy Meyer or what he presented. Um you can be for his material, against his material, or not even know about him. But uh Billy Meyer, as some of you may know, uh came out with vast amounts of transcripts of interaction with what were originally called palladians, but then later they told us, or they told him, they they were telling humanity is what I mean, is that they were playans, not palladians. But at any rate, they they said that they lived to a thousand years, and the way they did that was through genetic modification, and that they said humans would do the same in the future, that we would modify our genes to live to a thousand years. What was interesting is that they picked that thousand years, because that was that matched what the Bible was saying about the early people. There were seven people that they specifically gave them ages in the in Genesis that lived close to, of course, the longest, as you know, was Methuselah. Um animals now 960 years. Um and and then some people say, well, no, that that uh that wasn't the case that that when they were talking about uh people living those years, they were mixing up months for years, but then there's one of them that they list that fathered uh that was Shen Sun, fathered a boy when he was 35. Well, you wouldn't father someone at 35 months. So obviously they make years. Um and the whole context, the way it reads, they say people live long. Okay, well, well, that's interesting. And so what I'm throwing out to you, I'm going to throw out to you, is some hints of the potential to do what they're saying that that mankind can do. And already in the labs, they're doing the things that I'm going to talk about. And these things, if they were applied to humans, plus a lot of other things. Remember, I I said it back in the car analogy, it's going to involve a lot of things. And here's been my thinking the last 30 years, and I'm finally going public with this thinking. I've told other people individually, but finally going public, so you get to be the first ones that I'm experimenting on. Um, I think that whether they have true immortality or not, they if if all they can do is keep you alive for 400 years, that's still a good hook. Because you're gonna have to wait around 400 years to find out whether it's right or wrong. That's still enough to pull the rug out from underneath all these world religions and and create a world religion. So uh I would expect uh even if if we with their level of technology they can only increase your lifespan by several hundred more years, like the Highlander series, which is here's 400, I think they'll still do it, you know, because they can make you dependent on their system, right? So uh through genetic modification, let me and let me just give you some hints here. These are things that have already been done in the lab, right? The FOXO gene activated to keep uh the number of stem cells that regenerate regenerating stem cells prolific, that they can they already done that with the FOXO gene. There's a protector SOV gene that can be strengthened to scavenge, it's the gene that scavenges free radicals, and it can be strengthened so that you're protected against free radicals. Um there's a gene that resets the collagen-collagenase ratio. As you get older, what happens in the humans is your ratio of collagen to collagenase uh gets worse. Uh, I'm assuming everybody knows what collagen is. If you don't, I I should tell you right now. Because most a large share of your body is made up of collagen. It's what holds you together. And as you get older, you know, past 30, your body basically quits producing it. That's why you die. You might all of you seriously should think about um the possibilities of introducing collagen into your life to keep yourself more youthful. And then there's a controversy: can you get a good collagen? And and not all collagens are going to be safe, some of them are going to be suspicious, but I'll I'll leave that research up to you. That's your excitement exciting task. See, that's the thing that that is so important here that I'm going to stress, and Mark kind of did that, but I'm going to say it in a slightly different way. I believe that the journey seeking truth is more important than the pot of gold at the end of the search. By going and seeking and going on this quest, you're learning, right? And see what the churches and a lot of other organizations do, the schools, they give you this box lunch, this pre-packaged truth, and they give it to you. Okay, here you swallow it, you've got truth, that's it. You know, when you join the Jehovah's Witnesses, you're in the truth. You don't grow, you don't learn. You're you're stifled as a person. You remain a little child. You've just been spoon-fed something. So I'm not trying to spoon feed you. If I could do anything for you, it would be to motivate you to go on this quest for truth. Because the quest, the journey, the fighting, the research, and and everything, that's that's the exciting part. That's where you're really going to gain, right? It's not in the answers that you're gonna get in the end. It's it's in the it's in the striving to get there. It's the journey that's important. So I don't want to steal anybody's journey. Now, Gilgamesh, I'm gonna find my notes here. Um, probably all of you have heard about it. It was um before the 22nd century, they uh they had the saga of Gilgamesh, and what it was was somebody that wanted eternal life. And now in modern times, we see that this character Gilgamesh has has come into focus again. There was a movie about Gilgamesh the Immortal in 1969, and um, and then the aliens were saying that there was Gilgamesh, and this is what they were saying about it, and that uh he got trapped in in here. I'm not saying this is true or false, I'm just saying here's we we have all of these hints from from history and um from reality that maybe some people are actually uh living uh longer than a lifespan. And um, I have known people that bumped into such kinds of people, and um, some of them have uh had their lives turned upside down because maybe they discovered too much. Um and uh see if I can I I had a note here to remind myself of some of these some of these people that uh other people have bumped into. I personally never bumped into anybody that in getting to know them, I could say, oh boy, this person's lived for like the Count Saint Germain. You know, you've heard of him, right? That he's he's not dying. That type of situation. I don't know. Anybody out here um bumped into somebody like the Count Saint Germain? Well, no, no hands are going up, but I do know people that have, and that suggests that maybe that strongly suggests that maybe there are a few individuals, and it's my contention from the little bits and pieces that I've gathered over the last 30 years, that indeed a few individuals are being given uh this immortality. They are indeed taking a consciousness and putting it into a body and giving a few individuals. But I think that the vast majority of members in the occult and in the Illuminati are being the secrets even being withheld from them. That's why I say this may be the biggest secret, and that's what we were talking about earlier. Um, another movie that was interesting that I wanted to bring out about was uh The 13th War. Maybe some of you have seen it, 1999 movie. Uh a German scientist creates a holographic machine and then he moves his consciousness to this holographic reality. Now, holograms tend okay, and holograms are very important because at the quantum level, everything's a hologram. Our universe is a hologram, our minds are holograms, and our thinking and our consciousness is holograms. So there's a whole level of understanding here about holograms that makes that movie, the 13th floor, interesting. Um, in fact, that and then those who are in the quantum physics uh talk about our reality as being the field, or another name that they have for it's the holographic universe. And in dealing with uh individuals, uh, you know, I've been dealing with a lot of people that were illuminati, and from an insider uh, for instance, I learned that they created a phone based on quantum physics. And when you get ready to ask a question before you ask the question, the answer comes. It's it's like reverse time. It was so it blew the people's minds that made it so bad. I mean, they knew what they were headed towards, but it's so out of the box to use quantum physics to do something like that, that uh it it was hard for them to wrap their minds around what they had invented. But I mentioned that because there's a lot of things like that that I bump into that lead me to believe they're way ahead of us technologically. And so when they say that we're going to have the ability to download our consciousness to a computer in in a few years, you know, in 30 years, I'm gonna I'm saying, well, they they already have it in secret. Um okay, um, I wanted to shift gears here. Um what's really interesting is I'm the last speaker, so I get the last word. And the last word is hope. And I'm gonna talk about hope. You know, I talked with Kathy O'Brien. I was just seeing how if this would resonate with her, and it did. When I worked with Cisco, there were times, a large show of the time, where she could see no hope. You know, the mind control programming was so overwhelming. The uh the Illuminati were swarmed around us constantly. I mean, the story behind the story we take encyclopedias to write. It was a madhouse. And um, them coming into the house, moving next door, I mean, tag to them following my car for years, and it it was it was like the moving enemy of the state. It's wild. And anyway, she couldn't see hope in that. And I I would tell her, I'd say, Cisco, you're in a dark room, you can't see the door handle. The door handle's there, but I will hold on to your hope for you. So, you know, um, the word tells us that hope is not something we see, and that's the truth. Another thing that it tells us is it tells us that hope is a virtue. Now, oftentimes, I mean, probably everybody here knows that honesty is a virtue, you know, or thriftiness. But how often do you hear someone say that to be a man of hope or a woman of hope is to be a virtuous person. To have hope is a virtue. And out of that hope is going to come so many other things. You're not going to move forward. You know, I'm sitting there in a restaurant and uh people didn't even know who I was. They were next door in the booth. I'm telling a story from like 20 years ago. I was surprised. They're sitting there talking about the New World Order, and then all of a sudden, uh, on one side of the table, the couple got angry and they said, Yeah, but you can't do anything about it. And the in the conversation, that's it. You see, to have hope is a virtue. It may not be seeable, but the ancient wisdom, I'll use that word because a lot of people get squeamish if I say scriptures or whatever, but the ancient wisdom teaches us that hope is a virtue. And on that word, I'm going to end with encourage you to go forward as you've heard today, speak truth, have hope, and uh enjoy being good among you. Okay. Now, whether I do or not, you're relevant. By sending on cabinet, you have to come to me for that secret knowledge. I've created an instant power base, right? So that's number one here. And it has to be knowledge that you're really interested in. So it's especially good if it's saving Gnostic occult knowledge like hey, I could I got the secrets of immortality, right? I'm going to give you immortality. And you have to come to me for this. I'm using this as my power base. Of course, if I gave you everything, if I told you everything I supposedly knew, I would give my power base away. So the next thing is, is I have to give it away in increments. So how am I going to do that? Well, for instance, in Freemasonry, you have the degree system where I'm paying like maybe $110 per degree. And I go up, you know, in the in the blue lodge here, I've got three degrees. And then the next one in the red lodge, I've got up to the 32nd degree. And then the top level here is the Supreme Council, the 33rd degree. So as I rise up, I'm going to be given higher levels of knowledge. So I start here and they're saying, okay, the G stands for God. And then I get up there, oh, the G stands for Gnosis, you know, secret tone. Or then I get way up here and they're saying, oh, the G stands for genitive principle, you know, to bugger a little boy. So this is uh how how they give you and increments this occult knowledge that they have. Now there's different ways that this is done, like the Watchtower Society, um they make you dependent on what they call the mother of God by coming out with the weight and watchtower magazines. They're staggered, they come out every two weeks. And they tell their parents that you must be in touch with the mother of God. Okay, so they're making you dependent on the organization. The third element is that they divide this into three basic tiers. That's because you can't get the control out of the common person. Uh you have to have it, you have to have a playhood, right? So this is this will be called in some groups the laity, and this is the clergy, right? For your priesthood here. You've got three groups, and then the top of the pyramid is your controlling organization. And usually, right here, they put a false front in, so that, like with the Jehovah's Witnesses, you've got the great crowd, and they're promised life on earth. You got the two parties in in uh having a difference of um now. Here you see another on the left, something else that uh came out from the Watchtower Society, again with the winged sun disc. And then on the right-hand side is from another organization, the Theosophical Society. Charles H. Russell knew about the Theosophical Society, and um, which also is another front for the same people that I was talking about, and both of them like to use the winged sun disc. And as you can see here, the you've got the center, uh, which is the sun, and then you've got the wings, and um the the winged sun disc has several meanings to it, and I don't want to imply that has only one meaning, because what we had is we had the mystery religions stretching from India to the British Isles, and their priesthoods sent me uh representatives to a grand council, which was the Illuminati. They were controlled all that way in antiquity, and they were using those principles of control that I was showing you earlier, where these mystery religions were saying we have secret occult knowledge, and you need to become dependent on us. Okay, and that's the way they were doing it. And so, in in these different localities, there were different interpretations or meanings to the winged disc. Uh, in the Assyrians, the circle meant eternity. But the the meaning that I'm focusing on for the winged sun disk is that it's the soul on its flight back to its creator. Okay. Now it can also re represent the victory of horse over setup, which is good over evil or light over darkness, it could represent that too. And uh in Lesson Kenya, a huralmaster was represented by the wind disk. And then in India, the avatar vision was. So it had different meanings, but the meaning that I'm focusing on is the soul on its flight back to its creator. This uh is just as it says, uh it's it's speculated to be immortal because it's lived so long, nobody knows how long the uh bristle cone pine lives. And I'm I'm going to show you some species of plants and animals that are immortal. Uh the oldest known bristle cone pine is 4,800 years. In practical sense, I'd say that was immortal. Some jellyfish are a Morse denied. And um, and then the aliens were saying that there was Gilgamesh, and this is what they were saying about him, and that um he got trapped in in here. I'm not saying this is true or false, I'm just saying here's we we have all of these hints from from history and um from reality that maybe some people are actually uh living uh longer than a life scan. And um, I have known people that bumped into such kinds of people, and um some of them have uh had their lives turned upside down because maybe they discovered too much. Um and uh see if I can I I had a note here to remind myself of some of these some of these people that uh other people have bumped into. I personally never bumped into anybody that in getting to know them, I could say, oh boy, this person's lived for like the Count Saint Germain. You know, you've heard of him, right? That he's he's not dying. That type of situation. I don't know. Anybody out here um bumped into somebody like the Count Saint Germain? Well, no, no hands are going up. But I do know people that have, and that suggests that maybe that strongly suggests that maybe there are a few individuals, and it's my contention from the little bits and pieces that I've gathered over the last 30 years, that indeed a few individuals are being given uh this immortality. They're indeed taking a consciousness and putting it into a body and giving a few individuals. But I think that the vast majority of members in the occult and in the Illuminati are being the secrets even being withheld from them. That's why I say this may be the biggest secret, and that's what we were talking about earlier. Um, another movie that was interesting that I wanted to bring out about was uh The 13th Floor. Maybe some of you have seen it, 1999 movie. Uh a German scientist creates a holographic machine and then he moves his consciousness to this holographic reality. Now, holograms tend okay, and holograms are very important because at the quantum level, everything's a hologram, our universe is a hologram, our minds are hologram, and our thinking and our needs are held to have a bog. Imagine that. We weren't we weren't uh we weren't allowed to have a eternal soul. Now, there's a similar word to ba, that's ka, which means life force. And when the pharaoh died, his ba would go back to its creator, but it could also, as you see here, hover over it. And this is this ba here is also related to the next thing we're going to look at, which is the wing globe or wing sun disc. And we learned uh much about the ba in the book of the dead. That's our clearest illustration of the ball. This is the winged sun disc. Charles Age Russell, who was of an Illuminati bloodline, the Russell bloodline, he uh used the winged sun discs on his books. And this is uh one of his uh seven-volume series that was attributed to him that was called Study in the Scriptures. Um, and there's a reason why I'm bringing out uh about about Charles Stage Russell and the Jehovah's Witnesses, is because my B. Wise Assemblance book, as well as a number of the other books, went in great length to show how the Watchtower Society was a front for the Illuminati. And what's interesting about their beliefs is that they do not believe that you have an eternal soul. They believe that sometime in the future that uh that uh your consciousness is going to be downloaded, you'll be given a new body, and then that that consciousness put back into that body. And that's what I'm proposing that the Illuminati are already doing. And that it's interesting that that's how they see that you're going to get eternal life. Um, that got them into conflict with standard Christian theology. It might seem like splitting hairs, but the Christian theology, which is based on the New Testament, which talks about there's some seed, something in your body that you have today is going to be a seed to create the resurrection body. Now, whether you want to think of that as DNA or something else, uh, but it's there's going to be a seed involved. In other words, there's going to be some link between the your body now and the resurrection body and eternal life. So that theologically got the two parties in in uh having the difference of um. Here you see another on the left, and then fight on another group, New Age group boy. So the you divide and conquer, it's divide and conquer. The people on the outside that are being controlled never rebel against the sinner. If they would rebel against the actual string pullers, the priesthood group is going to act as a buffer, and then you got another buffer here. So these are falsifications in here. For instance, I had uh a friend who was um homeless and jobless, and he was in my house. He was Mormon. He went to the Mormon employment agency, and they got him a job on staff with the Church of Scientology. That's the type of false part, that's the type of incidents that you will see numerous times once you realize that these are false partitions between the different groups. So, like the Knights of Columbus, which is uh a Catholic fraternal organization, since the 60s has been having high-level meetings to coordinate things with the Freemasons, but most people think that they're enemies, and they get all their insignia badges from the same company. So these are false partitions here. And what has been, as you might imagine, one of the best hooks for creating a uh religion that people are going to give their control over to you? Immortality. That has been a favorite subject. And I might interject to you that uh, you know, uh Christ said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, except um uh all those who uh believe on me shall not perish but have everlasting life. That's John 6.14. And then the most famous verse, probably most of you heard sometime, John 3.16, for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. Okay, we're looking at um Christ, the the scriptures promising eternal life, and um what would pull the rug out from Islam, from Judaism, from Christianity? What would pull the rug out from underneath those? If the Illuminati, if the power brokers could all of a sudden say, hey, we can give you immortality that's going to wipe out those religions. Now, this is this is my what I have been seeing 30 years ago up to now. I had been, and when I've introduced this to people, they have uh I haven't gotten necessarily a positive um I second that. But uh that's okay because I I still have not been St. Petersburg after Peter degree. Another way is what you see here, here they've preserved the body almost immortally. I mean, they've been able to recover the DNA from these mummies, and uh their the DNA is intact enough that it can be used for cloning. Um, and and they have been, you may have heard in in the news recently that they've talked about cloning dinosaurs and stuff like that and raised the question, shouldn't he be doing this? Okay. Um those of you who have been around me the last 25 years, if you were in a restaurant, probably saw me pull out a napkin and handwrite this. There are three words here arcaning, esoteric, and a cult. Now they sound different, but they have exactly the same meaning. Arkane, esoteric, and a cult mean hidden knowledge. All right? Now knowledge is power. And I'm going to tell you how they use knowledge to get power. Okay, and this has been my little diagram that I have done for people over the years repeatedly, and we're going to break it down, makes it all clear to people. So the first thing that I do to create a power base is to say, I have secret knowledge. Okay? Now, whether I do or not, it's irrelevant. By saying I have it, you have to come to me for that secret knowledge. I've created an instant power base, right? So that's number one here. And it has to be knowledge that you're really interested in. So it's especially good if it's saving Gnostic occult knowledge, like, hey, I can I got the secrets of immortality, right? I'm gonna give you immortality. And you have to come to me for this. I'm using this as my power base. Of course, if I gave you everything, if I told you everything I supposedly knew, I would give my power base away. So the next thing is, is I have to give it away in increments. So how am I going to do that? Well, for instance, in Freemasonry, you have the degree system where I pay like maybe uh $110 per degree, and I go up, you know, in the in the blue lodge here, I've got three degrees, and then the next one in the red lodge, I've got up to the 32nd degree, and then the top level here is the Supreme Council of the 33rd degree. So as I rise up, boy, that would that would really get people in their camp um stampeding, like some of the other things that they have to sell us. This is the ball. It uh translates in English, eternal soul. Uh in from the ancient Egyptian way of looking at things, the sun was the law of the sun god. And uh every day there was a rebirth, there was a union of the ba where it had Roth and Osiris in union. It was the he and two boss. And what's interesting was that back in ancient Egypt, the common people, right? The bottom of that, the bottom third of the pyramid, were not believed or held to have a law. Imagine that. We weren't we weren't uh we weren't allowed to have a eternal soul. Now, there's a similar word to ba, that's ka, which means life force. And when the pharaoh died, his ba would go back to its creator, but it could also, as you see here, hover over it. And this is this ba here is also related to the next thing we're going to look at, which is the wind globe or wing sun disk. And we learn uh much about the ba in the book of the dead. That's our clearest illustration of the ball. This is the winged sun of disc. Charles Sage Russell, who was of an Illuminati bloodline, the Russell bloodline, he uh used the winged sun discs on his books. And this is uh one of his uh seven-volume series that was attributed to him that was called Study in the Scriptures. Um, and there's a reason why I'm bringing out uh about about Charles T. Russell and the Jehovah's Witnesses, is because my B Wise Assertions book, as well as a number of the other books, went in great length to show how the Watchtower Society was a front for the Illuminati. And what's interesting about their beliefs is that they do not believe that you have an eternal soul. They believe that sometime in the future that uh that uh your consciousness is going to be downloaded, you'll be given a new body, and then that that consciousness put back into that body. And that's what I'm proposing that the Illuminati are already doing. And that it's interesting that that's how they see that you're going to get eternal life. Um that got them in. He called me and asked if I would be a speaker. I said, What's the subject of the conference? And they said there's three things there's consciousness, mind control, and occult knowledge.

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I thought, good, we'll speak on all of it.

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And uh when one of the things that I wanted to start out with is if you are seeking the truth, if you're walking in the truth, like Mark was showing you, you are free. The truth will set you free. You are free and they are the slaves. I don't care if they're walking around with big egos and they're thinking that they're the masters, they're walking in darkness, they're lost. And as I worked with Illuminati uh members, I realized how dark their world is and how enslaved they were. And I worked for eight years with Illuminati slaves to try to get them free. And uh in fact, someone from New York City who was a doctor, after I got Cisco free, where uh she had alters that's personalities that uh were programmers, and we invited people from around the world to come into our house. And uh they could live with us, and we would give them whatever help we could. And this doctor from New York City came. And when we sat down initially with him, he had he had gone a therapist for 20 years and never gotten any help. And he had a double bind. See, the alluminotic programming that they do with their own children, this trauma-based mind control, creates double binds. The double bind is where there's no solution. You see, no, how can I tell them? What way can I what can I do? And then, of course, the only way that they want you to go is the way they'd want you to go. And he said, I can't, and you know, we started talking to them about what he saw with this programming, and he said, I'm trapped. And we told him, Yeah, it looks that way, but you can walk through the walls of the programming. Start walking through them. And he did. He he listened to what we were saying, he walked through the wall that he thought that he never could go through, and he started laughing from the belly. I think he laughed in like 20 minutes. The sense of freedom that he got. Now, one example uh of what a double bind would be would be if you were going through the jungle, like let's say Vietnam with your squad, and you came upon an ambush. Now, when they ambush you, they know how you're gonna react and they're set up to take advantage of them. And the long-range patrols, the the elite Americans planned obsolescence. So then the care that you give your car, you know, how you house it, maintain it, the quality of the fuels and foils, um, that's going to determine how long it stays. And then the ability to restore it if it gets damaged. So these are the kind of issues that we're looking at for people to get immortality, right? We're gonna discuss these because uh the quality of material that can be used that pertains to genetic manipulation, right? So this is Henrietta Lacks. She was a black woman that in January 1951 was diagnosed with a stage one cancer tumor at John Hopkins uh hospital, and then they, without her consent, took a sample of that tumor and gave it to a Dr. Gray, and they discovered, and she went ahead and died. Um they discovered that this that her cells from this that they uh from the sample were immortal, they can live outside the body, and so they have been harvesting these cells continue to clone themselves to duplicate, and they don't stop, and they have been doing that since 1951, and they have gotten over 20 tons of cells for scientific experiments from her line of cells, and they have been used in countless uh scientific experiments. They're uh they're sold all over the world. In fact, that's what everybody wants to use, and they called her immortal cell line the um Gila. This is Adam Wilson, he's a bioengineer um with the University of uh Wisconsin. And what he's doing is his cat that he's created reads the mind, reads the conscious mind, and he's cooking uh, he put something up on Twitter with his cat breeding his mind. Um and he is interested in taking this one step further where you implant the brain uh so that your mind is being read with these implants which will connect to the internet, and then your mind can be part of the global mind of the beast computers and the internet and everything, and it can all be one global mind. So that's where he would like to take this. Now the stealth planes are just like I've written, they're piloted with the computers. They had multiple computers reading the pilots. Um here we see the bottom. Holograms tend okay, and holograms are very important because at the quantum level, everything's a hologram. Our universe is a hologram, our minds are holograms, and our thinking and our consciousness is holograms. So there's a whole level of understanding here about holograms that makes that movie, The 13th floor, interesting. Um, in fact, that those who are in the quantum physics uh talk about our reality as being the field, or another name that they have for it's the holographic universe. And in dealing with uh individuals, uh, you know, I've been dealing with a lot of people that were in the Illuminati and from an insider uh, for instance, I learned that they created a phone based on quantum physics. And when you get ready to ask a question, before you ask the question, the answer comes. It's it's like reverse time. It was so it blew the people's minds that made it so bad. I mean, they knew what they were headed towards, but it's so out of the box to use quantum physics to do something like that, that uh it it was hard for them to wrap their minds in around what they had invented. But I mentioned that because there's a lot of things like that that I bump into that lead me to believe they're way ahead of us technologically. And so when they say that we're going to have the ability to download our consciousness to a computer in in a few years, you know, in 30 years, I'm gonna I'm saying, well, they they already have it in secret. Um okay. Um I wanted to shift gears here. Um what's really interesting is I'm the last speaker, so I get the last word. And the last word is hope. And I'm gonna talk about hope. Now I talked with Kathy O'Brien. I was just seeing how if this would resonate with her, and it did. When I worked with Cisco, there were times, a large share of the time, where she could see no hope. You know, the mind control programming was so overwhelming. The uh the Illuminati were swarmed around us constantly. I mean, the story behind the story we take encyclopedias to like it was a madhouse. And um, them coming into the house, moving next door, I mean, tag team following my car for years. And it was it was like to imply that has only one meaning. Because what we had is we had the mystery religions stretching from India to the British Isles, and their priesthoods sent uh representatives to a grand council, which was the Illuminati. They were controlled all that way in antiquity, and they were using those principles of control that I was showing you earlier, where these mystery religions were saying we have secret occult knowledge, and you need to become dependent on us, okay? And that's the way they were doing it, and so in in these different localities, there were different interpretations or meanings to the wing disc. Uh, in the Assyrians, the circle meant eternity. But the the meaning that I'm focusing on for the wing sun disc is that it's the soul on its flight back to its creator. Okay. Now we can also re represent the victory of horse over set, which is good over evil or light over darkness, it could represent that too. And uh in Mesopotamia, a huralmasa was represented by the wind. And then in India, the avatar vision was. So it has different meanings, but the meaning that I'm focusing on is the soul on its flight back to its creator. This uh is just as it says uh it's it's speculated to be immortal because it's lived so long, nobody knows how long the uh bristle cone pine lives. And I'm I'm going to show you some species of plants and animals that are immortal. Uh the oldest known bristle cone pine is 4,800 years. In practical sense, I'd say that was immortal. Some jellyfish are immortal, and uh the hydra, uh no, this isn't the hydra, but it's uh this is uh uh Thernitopsis dorny, which is an immortal jellyfish. And you can you can grab this jellyfish and do whatever you want to poke it, cut it, you know, beat it up, um, you know, turn it inside out, and the thing regenerates itself. You can't hurt this thing. You know? Now, this is a hydra, and the hydra is also immortal, and it contains stem cells capable of continuous proliferation. They an endless supply of these stem cells, uh regenerating the stem cells. And uh what allows it to do that? Well, it's got the Fox O do how to focus on Mark and the other organizers and volunteers of this. The dedication that they have, the selfless dedication, just as Mark was talking about, to the truth. And this, I'm holding it up as an example for all of us what we can do. So um thank you, Mark, and when we call me and asked if I would be a speaker, I said what's the subject of the conference? And they said there's three things, there's consciousness, mind control and open knowledge.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:18

Good. I'll speak on all of them.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:25

And uh when one of the things that I wanted to start out with is if you are seeking the truth, if you're walking in the truth, like Mark was showing you, you are free. The truth will set you free. You are free and they are the slaves. I don't care if they're walking around with big egos and they're thinking that they're the masters, they're walking in darkness, they're lost. And as I worked with Illuminati uh members, I realized how dark their world is and how enslaved they were. And I worked for eight years with Illuminati slaves to try to get them free. And uh in fact, someone from New York City, he was a doctor, after I got Cisco free, where she had alters, that's personalities, that uh were programmers, and we invited people from around the world to come into our house, and uh they could live with us, and we would give them whatever help we could. And this doctor from New York City came. And when we sat down initially with him, he had he had done a therapist for 20 years and never gotten any help, and he had a double bind. See, the alluminotic programming that they do with their own children, this trauma-based mind control, creates double binds. The double bind is where there's no solution. You see, no, how can I turn? What way can I what can I do? And then, of course, the only way that they want you to go is the way that they want you to go. And he said, I can't, and you know, we started talking to him about what he saw with this programming, and he said, I'm trapped. And we told him, Yeah, it looks that way, but you can walk through the walls of the program. Start walking through them. And he did. He he listened to what we were saying, he walked through the wall that he thought that he never could go through. How this focus on Mark and the other organizers and volunteers of this, the dedication that they have, the selfless dedication, just as Mark was talking about to the truth. And this, I'm holding it up as an example for all of us, what we can do. So um thank you, Mark. When they called me and asked if I would be a speaker, I said, what's the subject of the conference? And they said there's three things there's consciousness, mind control, and all knowledge.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:18

Good. I'll speak on all of them.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:25

And uh when one of the things that I wanted to start out with is if you are seeking the truth, if you're walking in the truth, like Mark was showing you, you are free. The truth will set you free. You are free and they are the slaves. I don't care if they're walking around with big egos and they're thinking that they're the masters, they're walking in darkness, they're lost. And as I worked with Illuminati uh members, I realized how dark the world is and how enslaved they were. And I worked for eight years with Illuminati slaves to try to get them free. And uh in fact, someone from New York City, who was a doctor, after I got Cisco free, where she had altars, that's personalities, that uh were programmers, and we invited people from around the world to come into our house, and uh they could live with us, and we would give them whatever help we could. And this doctor from New York City came. And when we sat down initially with him, he had he had gone to therapist for 20 years and never gotten any help, and he had a double bind. See, the alluminotic programming that they do with their own children, this trauma-based mind control, creates double binds. The double bind is where there's no solution. You see, no, how can I do it? What way can I what can I do? And then, of course, the only way that they want you to go is the way they want you to go. And he said, I can't, and you know, we started talking to him about what he saw with this programming, and he said, I'm trapped. And we told him, yeah, it looks that way, but you can walk through the walls of the program. Start walking through them. And he did. He he listened to what we were saying, he walked through the wall, but he thought that he never could go for this in the steps, the procedures. But as far as conflict uh complications, it's just as easy. And I'm going to suggest to you that the Illuminati not only have the motive to uh clone and to transfer consciousness, but they have the means. And if they have the motive, the means, what's that mean? It means that they're doing it. That's the way I operate, you know. A little uh one plus one equals two there. So here are some here here are the steps. If you were to clone a person, right? I'm gonna try to read through this real quick, but to give you give your mind a little bit of uh that assurance that it's just a strike technique, right? So the ovaries are gonna be monitored, and the ocyte is going to be taken with some uh molecule fluid, and then they're gonna give the donor some clonophine citrate, uh citrate, so that they can harvest several eggs at one time. Then they're going to incubate that oocyte till it matures, and then they're gonna take some semen and simrifuge it till they get it to the proper uh concentration. And then the donor's nucleus is going to be fused with the micropy fat, or they could use an inactivated syndivirus, and then the human nucleus transplant will be cultured until it's oh about 8 to 16 uh cell stage, and then it'll be placed into the foster mother by a catheter into the cervical canal, um, into the interior of the uterus. So it's it's just a straightforward procedure, people. This is not something real complicated. They've been cloning all kinds of mammals, don't you think? That they have the ability to clone people, um they've been announcing that. So that's what I'm uh suggesting is that uh, and this is from my Dick Branside's book where I'm giving uh some details of how gene cloning, the gene cloning set. Um and then this was a Thai magazine. If you'll pardon me, uh will there ever be another you? You know. Um now these are telomers, but we're talking about longevity, and there's actually a product, a product B that supports telomeres because there were um recently they made the breakthrough in uh discovering how they can stop telomers from shortening from simple food, and King Charles uh of England heard that he had a subject that was 152 years old, so he invited him to the palace. Do you know the rest of the story? Well, here's the rest of the story. The the king celebrated, and they had this orgy of eating when he got to the palace, and the king's food killed him in two weeks. Killed him. The rich food killed him. So I I think that that's a lesson that we need to pay attention to what we eat. You know, there's there's a reason why Monsanto and the world system is giving us this junk food, this GMO. They're trying to, they're trying to actually, to be more specific, I hate to say this, but the truth of it is it's genocide. It's actually a genocidal agenda, and the stuff that they're feeding us is genocidal. This year, I'm gonna have to give up corn because the new corn that they're coming out with, they splice in uh a particular DNA which neutres you as a man. You're it will just it will shut down your stomach for being active. And um, if you want to have kids, I I want to continue having kids, um then you know, then you're gonna have to give up corn, the one or the other. Um the oldest verified um person by modern means lived to 122 years old. Now, of course, modern means, you know, grocery took it gets their social security cards or whatever. Um, we've got a lot of reports throughout history that are not verified by by modern means of people living longer. But uh what's really interesting, and I said I was going to talk about Pennsylvania, is in going and looking at areas that have longevity, Pennsylvania has longevity. There were at least seven verified people, verified by modern means, that had lived over 110 from Pennsylvania. And the oldest living person, Sarah can ask, 119 years, minus seven days, the last I saw the count. And uh, she's from Pennsylvania. So over 500 Americans have lived over 110 years, and that's interesting because uh in the Word of God, it talks about originally uh people lived.