S6E78 | Allison Adams - Ongoing Targeting, Victim Task Forces, Parasites, & JonBenét Ramsey Theories

Today I’m so honored to have back on the show for a third time: Masonic Ritual Abuse Victim, Survivor and now Whistleblower for the first time, intuitive empath, entrepreneur, public speaker and improv comedian, biofeedback facilitator and educator, clean farming and nature lover, and an incredible hero coming forward to advocate for whistleblower and survivor protection and safety and to do everything in her power to facilitate the change she wishes to see in the world: Allison Adams

A little bit about Allison in case you’re new here, missed her riveting first two episodes, or need a little recap:

Long before tragedy found her, Allison had already forged a remarkable path as an outsider by choice and circumstance. Diagnosed with juvenile myoclonic epilepsy as a child, she refused to let the condition define her. For 45 years she mastered it through unwavering commitment to clean food, restorative sleep, mindfulness, and inner sovereignty. This was no mere management—it was her superpower, a disciplined daily dance that became her anchor and her greatest strength. Her life brimmed with simple, genuine joys: gym friendships, hiking through the woods, lunch dates, and the deep sharing that comes from real connection. She moved through the world with openness and trust.

But that trust was brutally weaponized. She befriended a woman at the gym, never imagining the warmth she shared would be turned against her. For two years she was stalked and targeted by a sophisticated network that used personal details to hunt her. Then, in April 2020, on the patio of an acquaintance named Marty - a James Beard-nominated chef connected to that network - Allison was drugged with at least four substances and plunged into ten harrowing missing hours.

Allison was not born into a multi-generational cult or family. She was a regular woman—lured, hunted, and caught. Her story reveals how insidious and organized the darkness can be, and how anyone can become a target. The betrayal began with friendship and grooming, escalated through traps like a staged dating profile and repeated offers of tainted drinks, and culminated in a night of coordinated evil. She awoke to a body bearing the physical imprints of trauma - an injured collarbone from extreme high-impact injury, and hair that turned dramatically curly overnight, a visible manifestation of the terror and trauma stored in her body from that night.

Yet Allison refused to let trauma erase her. She transformed it into purpose. Watching brave whistleblowers like David Wilcock and others face targeting, financial desperation, illness, and silencing ignited a righteous fire in Allison. She got mad. She realized that disclosure is not just dramatic testimonies - it is everyday survivors like her speaking out, and it demands community protection. There is no witness protection for these crimes. Society often blames victims, dismisses stories as “too outrageous,” or looks away because the darkness is uncomfortable. Allison chose the opposite.

She knows the risks. She has watched others step forward only to be targeted and silenced. She remains in danger, still living in the town where the attack occurred, still navigating ongoing targeting and the constant need for vigilance. Yet she will not be deterred. She demands we do what we can - but do something. 

She embodies the rarest kind of heroism - the quiet, relentless kind. The kind that turns personal hell into collective awakening. Survival, for Allison, is not passive endurance. It is active rising, speaking, organizing, and loving the vulnerable more fiercely. Rooted in inner discipline, practiced awareness, and unyielding courage, she has become a force of justice and healing. Even while still at risk, her light shines undimmed.

Allison is proof that one woman, anchored in decades of sovereignty and transformed by unimaginable darkness, can become a beacon that invites every soul to join her in building a safer, more awakened world. Her legacy is not one of victimhood, but of triumphant, unbreakable light. Because she chose to rise and speak, the world is forever brighter, stronger, and more compassionate. Because she chose to rise and speak, the light grows brighter. And together, we can make it shine forever.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

What's up you guys? Welcome to The Imagination. I'm your host Emma and today I am so honored to have back on the show for a third time Masonic Ritual Abuse, victim, survivor, and now whistleblower, intuitive empath, entrepreneur, public speaker, an improv comedian, biofeedback facilitator and educator, clean farming and nature lover, and an incredible hero coming forward to advocate for whistleblower and survivor protection and safety, and to do everything in her power to facilitate the change she wishes to see in the world. Alison Adams. A little bit about Alison, in case you guys are new here, in case you missed her riveting first couple episodes, or if you need a little recap. Long before tragedy found her, Allison had already forged a remarkable path as an outsider by choice and circumstance. Diagnosed with juvenile myoclonic epilepsy as a child, she refused to let the condition define her. For 45 years, she mastered it through unwavering commitment to clean food, restorative sleep, mindfulness, and inner sovereignty. This was no mere management. It was her superpower, a disciplined daily dance that became her anchor and her greatest strength. Her life brimmed with simple, genuine joys. Gym friendships, hiking through the woods, lunch dates, and the deep sharing that comes from real connection. She moved through the world with openness and trust. But that trust was brutally weaponized. She befriended a woman at the gym, never imagining the warmth she shared would be turned against her. For two years, she was stalked and targeted by a sophisticated network that used personal details to haunt her. Then in April 2020, on the patio of an acquaintance named Marty, a James Beard nominated chef connected to the network, Alison was drugged with at least four substances and plunged into ten harrowing missing hours. Allison was not born into a multi-generational cult or family. She was a quote unquote regular woman, lured, hunted, and caught. Her story reveals how insidious and organized the darkness can be, and how anyone can become a target. The betrayal began with friendship and grooming, escalated through traps like a staged dating profile and repeated offers of tainted drinks, and culminated in a night of coordinated evil. She awoke to a body bearing the physical imprints of trauma, an injured collarbone from extreme high impact injury, and hair that turned dramatically curly overnight, a visible manifestation of the terror and trauma stored in her body from that night. Yet Alison refused to let trauma erase her. She transformed it into her purpose. Watching brave whistleblowers like David Wilcock and others face targeting, financial desperation, illness, and silencing ignited a righteous fire within her. She got mad. She realized that disclosure is not just dramatic testimony. It is everyday survivors like her speaking out, and it demands community protection. There is no witness protection for these crimes. Society often blames victims, dismissing their stories as too outrageous, or they look the other way because the darkness is uncomfortable. Alison chose the opposite. She knows the risks. She has watched others step forward only to be targeted and silenced. She currently remains in danger, still living in the town where the attack occurred, still navigating ongoing targeting and the constant need for vigilance. Yet she will not be deterred. She demands we do what we can, but that we do something. She embodies the rarest kind of heroism, the quiet, relentless kind, the kind that turns personal hell into collective awakening. Survival for Allison is not passive endurance, it's act of rising, speaking, organizing, and loving the vulnerable more fiercely. Rooted in inner discipline, practiced awareness, and unyielding courage, she has become a force of justice and healing. Even while still at risk, her light shines undimmed. She's proof that one woman, anchored in decades of sovereignty and transformed by unimaginable darkness, can become a beacon that invites every soul to join her in building a safer, more awakened world. Her legacy is not one of victimhood, but of triumphant, unbreakable light. Because she chose to rise and speak, the world is forever brighter, stronger, and more compassionate. And together we can make it shine forever. So, you guys, without further ado, please help me in welcoming back today's guest of honor, Survivor and Thriver, Survivor Advocate, Walking Miracle, Courageous, Passionate Purveyor of Truth, Voice for the Voiceless, and the brightest light in the darkness, the one, the only, Allison Adams. Alison, it's so good to have you back again. What an honor to have you here for a third time. Thank you for being here with us.

SPEAKER_02 5:36

Thank you so much for having me. I that was so nice, and you're amazing. I uh I it's been a wonderful journey, the first two, and then I'm just so happy to be back for a third time. I knew I wanted to speak out for victims, but I didn't realize it was going to help me so much. So it's it's uh a two-way street. It's helping me a lot, and I'm really enjoying being a part of your show and meeting your audience. They've been so wonderful and full of information and support. And it's uh I can't say enough good things about it. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

You're welcome, and that makes me really happy. I love my audience, and I'm always really honored at the graciousness that they have to each guest. And I'm so happy that you've experienced that firsthand and that you've received so much support. And I've loved watching the comments roll in and people donating to you and supporting you. And I know everybody's gonna be really excited to see you again today. And so I'm really grateful that you're becoming a regular on here, and I love all the different topics that were unfolding and the different layers of your story that we're kind of peeling away and diving into you. And I know today's no different. Um, so I thought maybe we'd start by just catching up. Um, you weren't on that long ago, but there's been so much that has happened really between then and now. And so I thought maybe I'd just open the floor. And if you had any updates or anything that you wanted to share about your life, um, I'm sure everybody would love to know how you're doing since you've been speaking out on here.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

Yes, I would love that. I do have something that I feel like it was directly from the podcast that took place. Um for years after the targeting, so after the event, it was April 2020. And um it started pretty much immediately on my phone. And I in the last podcast, I said, I need IT help. I I can't figure this out. And one thing that was a glitch on my phone that I couldn't change was my Google location would be a place in Alabama that I'd never been. I live in Georgia, and it was there. I even would take it to the phone store, and it was always I felt nefarious. I didn't, I felt like that was part of I knew I'd I was tracked on my phone and I didn't know how to stop it. And that Google location really bothered me. And I did the podcast last time, and my Google location for the first time in six years is actually where I live, and it came back on. Yeah, I felt like what I felt like happened. This is kind of silly, but I feel like how I got targeted was by the network, a specific man. And we talked a little bit about the calendar of um the uh satanic ritual calendar. And in my book, this okay, I was in sales for um a long time, and I lots of different sales jobs, but one of my sales jobs, the selling cycle was about three years. So you'd identify a product or whatever, and it was about it was a cultivation process. And so I would have to um, you know, once a week, once a month, sit down and we had a forecast. And even if this wasn't gonna close for three years, we would talk about it. Well, I felt like I got on somebody's forecast, you know, and there was somebody that had to fill up that calendar, that satanic calendar. And he probably had like a list of people that could fill those roles, you know. There was somebody in that role. It's ridiculous. You know, we talk about this crime, but the crime is only so so successful because it is so sophisticated. It's not just a onesie twosie. There's so many levels to this crime. And I feel like the mastermind, his name was Paul, that planned everything. He was a part of it, but then also in there, there were some feeders. There were people that go out and look for it, and then there might be another level below that that you know they are the ones on the streets looking, so it's multi-leveled. And so I feel like I got on a forecast somewhere and I got targeted. And like my question is if I leave LAJ, I can I can tell I'm targeted locally here in LAJ. Well, if I leave, I guess that's my kind of question to the audience, is if I leave here, does that target follow me? You know, how does the network work? And that's what I guess my concern is. I know I need to leave, I know something has gone out within this network that I'm an identified target. Will that go away if I leave? You know, I guess that's kind of part of my question.

unknown 11:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:06

And it's a great question to ask. And I think personally I've heard different answers that some people left and found reprieve, they found peace finally. Other people, it seems like the target does follow them. So I'd be kind of curious what the differentiating factors are of how they decide who can just leave without being followed, and kind of what that forecast looks like for them, who they can sort of let go, and then what people they continue to try to draw back in or intimidate.

unknown 11:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

So that really, really.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

The guy, you know, they think that you've given in their religion or in their mind, they think you've given consent, which I didn't give consent, you know, and I came out publicly. But I want that person in trouble, the person that's that mastermind of it. I want him the people that are below him. I want them to turn towards him and say, You got uh me in trouble. And the people that are above him, I want them to say, Hey, you messed up, like the buck stops there. I don't want any more of this, you know, on me. I'm tired of it, you know. I don't know how we we do that, but anyways, that would be great.

SPEAKER_00 12:44

When you say forecasts, and that's a really great analogy. What types of things do you think put a target on you versus everybody else? Do you recall things going on in your life that like made you vulnerable or reasons why they may have chosen you out of other people? I'd just be curious that way, people on the other side of the screen can relate if they don't know why they're being targeted. And then also people who have never been targeted, we know this can happen to anybody. So things to sort of work on, you know, to make sure that that somebody else doesn't become a target like you did.

SPEAKER_02 13:19

I think because I was single, um, I was targeted, and possibly I think there could have been something that had to do with um my illness, epilepsy, because they will go after they think you they can go after disabled people. Yes. And I wonder if they just put me in that category. I don't know why, but it was single, my singleness.

unknown 13:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

And I think it with our the friendship with his wife, he I think it was just a um an o I don't think there was anything specific. I think it was just an opportunity. I was this person and he learned a ton about me. Um, he learned everything, you know. And I think he just, hey, this is great. She fell right in my lap, and I'm gonna target her.

SPEAKER_00 14:10

And it's scary to think of how many other people may have been before you or people that they're doing this to right now, now that they now that you left and you didn't go back that second time and that third time and sort of become part of it.

SPEAKER_02 14:25

Well, in the um the restaurant that it started, you know, started from Paul and then it went to the restaurant. You think how many people how easy the cult restaurant culture is to find victims? You know, the um you it's usually kind of people that are desperate that need a job. You know, the the um there's a lot of single mothers and single um people in the in the restaurant industry. And you know, if somebody's looking for things, they're interviewing people, you know, people are sending their resumes to these feeders. I think I think that's like one of the levels. Um, the mastermind might have the calendar of events, and then he has his helpers to help him feel it, fill it up.

unknown 15:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

Just so unfortunate that that happened to you. It's so sad, you know, and especially because you had opened trust to somebody, and it probably was really nice to have a friend to do stuff with and to get to know. And I just can't even imagine the betrayal that you felt seeing how it was part of such a big picture. And it's also sort of sad how the friend seems to be a victim herself in ways. You know, she seems to be very mind-controlled and like submissive to all of it, and maybe um, you know, amnestic to some of it. And, you know, that she's sort of like willingly or unwillingly pulling in victims for these predators, and she's married to one that just seems like an absolute monster.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

It was the strangest scenario, and I really don't I think she had been abused herself quite a bit, but I think the words she spoke to me were unconscious of what she was actually telling me. I don't even think she fully understood what she was saying, but I think her higher self was saying it because she was asking for help. There was a part of her that wanted the truth out. But the whole thing was so strange. And even things like um like she would tell me things and like you and I would repeat the story and you would think, well, that's so obvious. Oh my gosh, that's terrible. But she wouldn't understand what she was saying, it didn't seem like. Uh like one thing that she um told me that was so strange. Like I think of it now. But so she I would call her like a goody two shoes, or she was a do gooder. Like it made her feel good to serve. And I felt like she just thought it was her godly duty. You know, it was uh um a situation where if she went once a week and so through the church and she would clean up women's houses and they were Hispanic women and she'd go clean their house once a week. And I was just I I knew she always did that once a week, but she started telling me about it. She said, Well, they don't, um, it was obviously now again. I've kind of put two and two, it was sounds like a human trafficking situation, where she would go and it would be a Hispanic woman, and she would tell me these women don't clean their house at all, and all they do is have babies, and they have tons of babies, and all of the babies have different fathers. And um, she said she even told me once that she'd go into these houses with all these babies, and the mom just had babies, babies, and so she'd go clean for the moms and she would clean their house. And I think what she she thought she was like Mother Teresa, like going to take care of the needy, but it was a different situation. I don't I don't think she fully understood what she was doing. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_00 18:17

It really does, yes. Moving forward, or since the incident, how do you view friendships differently and how you vet people? Are there red flags that you look for or or things that you'll be aware of making new relationships or things that you're paranoid about? How has that changed your uh your ability to make relationships and and to have friendships?

SPEAKER_02 18:39

It's a great question. I actually have had a really hard time making friendships. My trust is gone. I I hide from the world, I'm scared to interact. I have panic attacks if I'm in a public situation. I've actually reverted back to childhood friends. Like that's actually the only place I feel safe right now. I I don't meet new people. I don't, I don't go out. So, and and when I met her, I don't know what I could have possibly done different. All the way up to the night that I was um uh drugged, I even brought my own food. Like I I I brought my own drinks with their own lids on them. I I didn't do that because I just was afraid of being date rape. I just always am hyper-vigilant on my own food and meals, meal prep. And I do that for my health. I don't I didn't do it out of suspicion, but even even then, other than leaving my drink and going to the restroom when I think that's what it had when one of the drugs hit my um system, but I don't know how to trust again. That's my really hard part. I'm struggling with that for sure. I don't, and that's kind of funny because in this podcast, the people have been great. And even somebody reached out from Arizona and said, you know, I have a place and I I'm ready to go. I I can get in the car, and that sounds wonderful. But then I am it's like playing a constant game of red light, green light. Like in your mind, you're like, okay, green, green's good, but then all of a sudden your body will just freeze. And it's like red light, okay. You know, it's the stop, go, stop, go. And I haven't, I trust the viewers here more, this group more than I have. It feels so good to be able to be understood, to be heard, to the camaraderie. It's uh a special, special place, but I still struggle with I don't know how I'm gonna meet new people right now. And that's what's so terrible about this crime. The crime, okay. David Wilcox had a great interview that I listened to uh about a week ago. It was with Danica Patrick and um the race car driver, she has a pod a show too. Oh wow. And he was talking about the um the when they abuse you, they actually uh the trauma literally shuts your brain down. And there's 17 areas of your brain that literally are shut down from this target.

SPEAKER_00 21:30

Yeah, you think of the world different, things that just were really easy to do, like meeting people, going places, even going online. You know, most people don't think twice about if their location is off or if the person that they're meeting could be dangerous. Like it's just not the world that we grow up in consciously, even though on an unconscious level, you know, that's exactly what our world is it's dangerous, you know. Just unaware of it because we're not taught about the dangers and these different elements. But it is, it's it's very difficult. I think once you once the veil comes off and you see the world for what it is, it's very difficult to navigate the terrain of relationships in any type of way.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

Definitely. Definitely. Everything is everything you thought you knew is different. You know, the the people you trust, you know, that it's everything has changed from the ground up.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

And speaking of, that's a really interesting point that David Wilcock made about the brain shutting down in 17 different areas. And that's not the only thing that happens with trauma. Last time, the last couple of times that you were on, we talked about a couple of the side effects that you had. And I know that you also you've touched on having these this kind of mystery illness that popped up. Do you want to talk a little bit about that? Because I'd be curious also to see what people on the other side of the screen, you know, have experienced themselves if they're targeted or a survivor of these things.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

Exactly. I would too. Um, yes. So after the attack in 2020, it was probably about a year and a half later. I could hardly get out of bed. I was um, I were probably three days out of seven, I was in bed sick. And I came down with a terrible illness. And it took it, I would like to, it's a long story, of course, but I would like to see if anybody else has had these mystery illnesses similar to what after you know the Masonic ritual. But we do know that they I've seen pictures of like parasites in the eye that they will implant during these rituals. They're terrible. Um, and I suspect that was something was given to me in a parasitic type thing. I I find I've been so fascinated with David Wilcox and kind of I didn't know until after he passed that he had said he had been drugged. And um, of course, that hit my heart because you know, it could happen to anybody. I would never have thought David Wilcox, but he feels he was drugged, he was also raped, he said. And um we I watched David Wilcock a lot before 2020, and he kind of in my mind got hard to watch after 2020. Um I didn't he wasn't the same. And he'll even say his his body, you could watch him physically deteriorate. And what if, like I don't I don't know if this has happened, but uh he was probably the deep state or whatever the cabal or the people that are in charge of this, I don't know what their names are, what we can call them, but he would be their biggest enemy because he was telling all their secrets. And what a way, what if, and if they just murdered him, that would be exposure that could have come back. But if they just implanted him with something that slowly his body deteriorated and his mind deteriorated, like that's an evil that's so bad, but unfortunately, that's an evil of what we're talking about, and that could possibly have happened.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

Do you and you suspect that something like that happened to you that night?

SPEAKER_02 25:41

I definitely had a mystery illness, and it ranged from um uh my liver, it started with my liver um completely shut down, would not at all process anything. And then it went to a a skin rash that you can't even imagine. It felt like I was being eaten eaten alive. Um, and there's actually more to that. And then I finally got medicine, but it was it was a it was an illness similar to cancer. Very the um and I went to seven or eight doctors, and um I I was it couldn't be identified what was going on with me. I had I actually finally just um took matters in my own hand and self-treated, and I got on groups and forums and shared with what people were going through and how do you do this? And I got on ivermectin and fin bin and it saved my life a hundred percent. But I it was parasitic, the mystery illness.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

How long did treatment take once you started the ivermectin and the protocol? How long before you felt more yourself?

SPEAKER_02 26:58

It was two years, honestly. Oh my god. But it was me finding I didn't have I was making it up as I as I went, you know, I'd find this medicine and then maybe I wouldn't take enough, or I needed I needed to be treated like um chemotherapy, you know, I needed six weeks of treatment, you know. It wasn't just a one pill and you're you're fixed, you know, it was it was a lot more in-depth than that.

unknown 27:28

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

Oh my gosh, that's crazy too to think how debilitated you were three days out of the week, fully in bed, and couldn't function.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

I couldn't function, actually. And like my um it was a chore to do. I had no, I slept all the time and I felt horrible. Like I I couldn't even um take my epilepsy prescription medicine because my liver couldn't process it. And I it actually just by taking a pill, I would get sick again from it. And it it it was an ordeal.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

Oh my goodness, did you have any type of seizures come up during that time because you weren't able to be medicated for it the way that you were before?

SPEAKER_02 28:22

I managed it, like it it all worked out, and it was um it was I couldn't take the medicine, but there were so many other things, like my body was just shutting down. I couldn't, I couldn't do anything. If I um you know, you think of alcohol, if I drank a beer, I would be sick for about three weeks. Like it, I I was I couldn't handle um anything.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

As somebody who has been very holistic for most of her life with the biofeedback and all the different ways that you've had to do, you know, illness and disease and uh symptom management in a sense with your epilepsy, when something like that happens, where all of a sudden, whether it's an illness that's severe or whether it's something else like the trauma symptoms that you were experiencing, what do you do first in those circumstances?

SPEAKER_02 29:26

It my view on medicine, or not even my view, my experience is so different because as a child, in the biofeedback, I was 10 or 11, they literally taught me how to look into my body. And I as a child told them the medicine I needed. You know, it was me telling them what was wrong, and it was the time where they listen to me. That's actually the the hardest. But the first thing I ever do is it's just a natural, I meditate all the time. You know, it's I I can go in and I scan my body, and it just happens now that irregularities I usually will know. I didn't know my liver, I would never have suspected my liver was what was making me sick ahead at a time because I don't drink and you know I'm so healthy and like I I don't even eat preservatives, you know. I'm I I couldn't, I'm like the girl in the bubble, you know. Um John Travolta had a movie in the 70s. It was like the boy in the plastic bubble. I was like, I've been the girl in the plastic bubble. My environment has been so guarded. But the first thing I I do is um meditate. I don't try to be a rebel in the I don't try to self-treat, but I unfortunately I just have illnesses that I don't have a choice. I don't have a medical team that understands the like on the it started with my liver was down and then it went into that terrible skin rash, like the worst thing. It literally felt like I was being eaten. And I went to several doctors, and ivermectin was helping, but they also wanted me, they wouldn't give me enough and they wouldn't give me the right dosage. And it was during the COVID when ivermectin was getting like a bad rap and doctors weren't prescribing it, but I had this like flesh eating thing that I needed it. Um, but then they would also give me a cream. They that was the only two medicines the doctors would offer me. And the cream, I could read, you know, if I get a I'm gonna look at it, anyways. The cream was really bad on your nervous system. It actually would um, it was called primrithen or something like that. And I read it and I was like, there's no way my body's gonna be able to handle this to the doctor, and I'm gonna say, but then they get mad at you if you say, I can't do this. They're like, but anyways, I was only given a cream. But so I was like, finally, I the rash got so bad, I was like, all right, I'm gonna try this cream. And I had to put it on from head to toe, and I woke up unconscious, like I it caused a seizure. So um I was right that I couldn't handle it, but I'll try to tell the doctors hey, this isn't right, and they'll they usually don't listen to me, and I've just kind of gone my own way. With I joined a group actually from um a bunch of women, and they they had it too, and we all compared notes and shared and best practices, and I learned so much from them. It was I'm somebody that I still am um connected to through X that was on what was it, Telegram. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 33:09

I think it's so important to be your own advocate. You know, it's really easy when you're feeling helpless to just sort of hand your power over and to just be like, I'm either gonna just surrender and like not do anything, or I'm not going to say anything to the doctor. I'm just gonna accept whatever they tell me to do, even if it's even if it might be wrong, you know, in those times of desperation. And I really love your patients going through these really hard times that you might be debilitated and in bed, but you're still able to sort of critically think your way through the process of healing and to figure out, okay, this is my first step, you know, this is my second step. And I'm gonna do this even if it's gonna be uncomfortable or take me two years. I'm gonna do this right and heal, find what's actually wrong and treat the root cause versus just treating the symptoms and maybe putting a band-aid over what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 34:02

We absolutely have to, and especially in this culture, there's nobody that's gonna help us. And we have to, we are our own primary care doctor, and mentally and physically, and everything is it. You have to run it through you, and you can't look for a savior. Nobody's gonna save us, and um, we got to do it ourselves.

SPEAKER_00 34:24

Do you have any nutrition tips for people? I know everybody's different, but do you have any basic things that I think food is another comfort thing? Whenever we don't feel good, we don't eat good, you know, because it's it's comfortable and it feels good to eat bad. And that can really exacerbate illness or prevent us from healing. Not that we have to be perfect 24 hours a day. Of course, we can, you know, have things here and there, but I think some people resort to just eating what's comfortable and and that's not always healthy. Um, do you have any like easy tips that people who are struggling could sort of look at and uh start doing whenever they're not feeling good instead of maybe going to McDonald's?

SPEAKER_02 35:08

I know, right? Well, my big nose that I do know, I do know um the the f wheat isn't bad, but our Frankenstein flour we that we call is terrible. And so um so the bleach um enriched white flour is my big enemy. I don't do any of that. I look for a clean, like we lank it from Italy, um there, but be really careful on the wheat because it's directly it'll just turn into poison for the brain, basically. Because what we're trying to do is get food that actually heals us and the sugar, the white flour, wheat's good, but the white flour's bad. Sugar, not good, and the seed oils, like those are my three that I stay away from. Um, food, I love home cooking because I it just it's healing for me, and I don't go up restaurants anymore. So I love to cook real food. I love to cook seasonally, but if you don't love that, that's okay. It's um, but if you're really struggling with depression and fears and anxiety, um walking every day just and get a little bit out there, the much as you can go for a walk and try to stay away from sugars. And um, but if you're trying to recover from this, don't this beast of that's out there, if you've had anything happen to you, like you're doing good just to be alive, you're doing good just to making it through the day. And don't beat yourself up too much on your exercise and your food because that can come with time. Like get your get your um heart right, you know, it's so hard. Actually, I I when I went through it, uh, I started smoking cigarettes um during a really bad time. Like it was just kind of you want to like I knew I shouldn't, and that was like the worst thing for my body, but I think it was just like you know, I had tried, I'd been so controlled before, and it just it was like a rebellion, I guess is what you call it. Like, I don't know what I nod anymore, but I went through this little brief period where I just was like, I'm smoking cigarettes. So I wouldn't recommend that, but I guess the reason I said that is just do what you gotta do to make it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

It's it's not it's so hard, it's so hard to pull yourself back in the first everyday struggle that what about uh I'd love to ask you just quick to you about meditation. I think a lot of people might want to do it or they've heard of it, but where do you where does somebody start if they want to learn how? Do you have any advice for how somebody could begin that journey?

SPEAKER_02 38:06

Yes, it's a great, and I think that's a great, and it's so hard, especially when you have you're in fight or flight mode. What I I when um I had a brain injury before, and um I was still I love guided meditations. When I felt like I couldn't do it on my own, I went to um guided meditations. It was a yoga nidra, um, where yoga nidra is a practice where you just literally lie down and a voice will say, Okay, relax your toes, relax your ankles. They literally will walk you through your whole body and all you just do is listen. To me, that was wonderful because I didn't want to have to think. It was great to just check it and have that um exercise. But scanning and meditation, a daily, it's hard to stop and think to do it, but if you could just play the tape, you know, if you find one, that's a great place to start.

SPEAKER_00 39:11

Thank you for that. I think meditation, you know, it's it's something on any level that somebody can do it that can be really helpful, especially how you were saying to heal your heart. I think anxiety and high blood pressure come with trauma a lot of times. And being able to settle that and not be in this fight or flight mode all the time can be really difficult when you're literally in trauma, like in the thick of it. And I think something like meditation can be really helpful for just being able to take a moment to focus on your breath, you know, and to just be able to relax your body for a couple minutes. Even if you're tense all day, five minutes of reprieve can do a lot for our health when you're traumatized, you know. And I think that is just a really good practice that somebody can have to just practice relaxing, practice breathing. And it's so crazy that we even have to incorporate that, that we don't live in a world that allows us peace and relaxation. And, you know, that so many of us are riddled with anxiety and depression and high blood pressure and that fight or flight feeling. But I really love that you incorporate that. And I think that could be helpful for a lot of people, you know, however they want to do it, guided, or I know there's some phone maps you can get where it'll do like a little timed, like, all right, here's a here's a little, you know, one minute meditation that you can do, or you know, however, somebody can fit it in. I just think it would be, and that it is like a good thing that somebody can practice just remembering to breathe fully and taking some of that tension out for a few minutes a day.

SPEAKER_02 40:43

Absolutely. And I think a lot of times when you are in the fight or flight, lying down quiet is one of the hardest times because then your body kind of starts like short circuiting and like all the fears and the oh, I'm getting, you know, shortness of breath. This is so scary. So to be able to hit a button and hear a voice calmly tell you to breathe and calmly talk you through it, it just it will help a lot. But um a meditation practice is great, and there's a lot of good ones out. It was kind of funny because when I it was 2014 when I had a brain injury and I left my job, but I didn't know I was dealing with a ton of fears, but my brain literally was it was not there, and I would listen to the the um yoga nidra tape hours, hours, uh same one over and over and over again. And in the thing, it was a heart-centered meditation, and it would say, Okay, go to your heart, and it would say the same words over and over again. It would say, um, peace, harmony, laughter, love. Those were the four that we would repeat uh peace, harmony, laughter, love. And I'll um when I wasn't right after my initial brain injury, when I wasn't listening to the tape, I couldn't remember the four words. And I was like, okay. And I for 30 days, that's all I would hear were the four four words over and over again. Then finally, slowly, I'd go, okay, now there's four words. I need to remember them. I need to remember them. And then peace, harmony, laughter love. But it's great when you can't do it yourself to get a tool and they have them out there.

SPEAKER_00 42:33

And I love how you brought up too that somebody just trying to relax in their own space, you know, if you just have, if you're even in just in your car on the drive home, that sometimes those moments of silence can be opportunities for anxiety to creep in and for us to panic, you know, to have time to think our thoughts and to focus on things that can make us have more anxiety. And I think one thing meditation does really well too is in those moments when you're feeling it, it it helps like change that behavior to, oh my gosh, I'm gonna panic when there's silence, to I got this, you know, I'm just gonna sit here and like focus on my breathing and I'm gonna focus on relaxing. I'm not gonna focus, I'm not gonna throw all those thoughts away for a few minutes while I'm in silence. It like helps you be more comfortable with silence and quiet time and time when you should be able to relax. It sort of like repatterns your behaviors too. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

Yeah. Re it because that's what we have to do to heal. We have to rewire our brain, we have to restart thinking. And unfortunately, we were shocked. You know, it was the trauma that is in our body. We have to find ways to say, tell us we're safe again, and it's okay to to, you know, the fears are just our body's way of protecting us. And they they think they're doing the right thing. We have to kind of say, okay, we're Safe now. We have to learn how to feel safe. How does how does safety feel? And how do we develop it?

unknown 44:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 44:07

And one of the things, obviously, that you've started doing now that you felt safe is speaking out. And I wanted to ask you about how that has been for your health.

SPEAKER_02 44:18

I it's been interesting. But it was a lot harder than I thought. That when I we you and I did our first one on a Sunday, that next Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, I felt like I had the flu. I felt like I'd been hit by a truck. I didn't get out of bed. Like I was like brain fogged. Like Wednesday came around and I was like, I don't even remember Monday and Tuesday. It was the first time we talked, it was just almost like a blur. And then the second time we talked, I went into hyper fear and everything, and insecurities, and um it felt like I was waiting for, you know, a bully comes by and you're like, ah, you know, ah, you know, I that's kind of how I I didn't want to feel that way. And of course I'm like, I'm past that, but that was what came out. And also at right after the um uh ritual that I was in, I had like a constant it that lump in my throat, and it felt like I need to cry, I need to cry. It actually was like for a year, I just felt like this full pain. But after we talked the second time, it came back, and I felt you know that really strong. And it comes and goes. I feel it every once in a while, but it was definitely a strong. I felt um all the fears come back after words, but it has um also kind of as the pendulum is gone. I actually feel more like myself than I have in a long time, you know. For so long, I've just been like not I did I was void of joy, like nothing made me happy. Like I couldn't, I didn't even want to do anything, you know, just kind of was living in like a gray land all the time. And you've kind of coming out and talking to you and and your viewers, it's liberated me. I feel a lot, um, I feel alive again. So it's been extreme fears, but then it's also felt really good at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

And it's good to talk about this because I think we talking, it doesn't seem like there could be something negative that we could be hit with after just having a conversation, you know. But that's something that with a lot of people who are new to speaking out, I've done videos on it and other survivors have talked about it on my podcast, you know, to make sure that if it's if you are speaking out for the first time or doing a podcast, yes, you'll feel really good at some point after, but to have a couple days at least to sort of nurture yourself because it's almost like you're ridding toxins out of your body in a way, you know, sometimes after you get a massage, absolutely. Even though, yeah, it's like getting a massage, like it's so good for us and it's so healthy. But sometimes we have toxins that come up and we can have flu-like symptoms for a couple days after a massage, and then all of a sudden you feel great, you know, but it's it's almost like a purging. And sometimes we think that that's just gonna feel great right away, but sometimes it can only feel great after you don't feel good for a couple of days of sort of dealing with the the toxins that's that's that are kind of coming out in sort of the healing that comes with the the speaking. So I appreciate you talking about kind of the highs and lows of that.

SPEAKER_02 47:53

Yeah, yeah. I think it's important to know, and then also um to know what to expect. You know, it's hard when you um are a victim and you think, well, I want to have this conversation, and even just a little conversation can be triggering, and you can have a reaction from it, and anybody you talk to.

SPEAKER_00 48:15

Absolutely, yes. And I'm really grateful that you have come on and both times that you've come on since the first time, you've seemed lighter and lighter, even if there were still some things to work through, fears and insecurities, or kind of that, you know, bully that you're hearing or seeing within your head. Um, I'm really proud of you for overcoming all of that and then for coming on a third time. This is like such a big, it's such a big deal and such a big task and milestone for you to do in such a short amount of time to do three of these. And each time it's been really enlightening to hear about your journey and you know, to talk through the the obstacles that you've had, but also how you've overcome them. And I think there's just so much that we have to learn from you, and I'm really grateful for that. And one of the things that I wanted to pick your brain on is some of the research that you've been doing. You know, we've talked about people like David Wilcock, we've gone through on our first episode some whistleblowers that have come forward and some of the unfortunate um outcomes that they've had, but also some of the mysteries behind their story that might not be known publicly. Um, you've been doing some research a little bit on the uh Jean-Bonnet Ramsey family. And I wanted to give you some space to talk about that because I think that's a really relevant topic. It's a case that still hasn't really been resolved, and there's a lot of questions around it. So I'd be curious what you've come up with.

SPEAKER_02 49:43

Yeah, I, you know, and it was almost part of my healing, I think. I became obsessed with it, and I probably watched hundreds and hundreds of hours. One podcast does it great, his true crime rocket science. And I I've I've watched a ton of them. But I what fascinated me is the Masonic ritual abuse. They, I think, are the poster trial. For me, I saw the case completely different after I was a victim to when before. And it's it's so publicly there, but I did a deep, deep deep dive into everything. I was so interested in um the several reasons. And I guess kind of what what comes to mind is um the like the last photo of John Binet that was taken of her, to me, it looks like she was drugged. And you could kind of see her eyes kind of like one of them's kind of droopy. And what was interesting, just the family dynamics, I guess, is what I I should say that was um okay, like let's look at the crime from a different perspective. From um I think she was killed during a Masonic ritual. Um the abuse had been more than likely going on for a very long time. Like when I look at the the night that um John Binet died, and I the crime is so horrible that you can't even understand it. And I think that's why the country can't let it go. Because um like John Bonnet, she had they found, did you know they found ropes on her bed that like and her bed poor little girl, the mattress, was just annihilated um with pea stains and urine and and all sorts of bodily functions. All of her underwear like had was stained. She had terrible um urinary tract infections constantly, yeast infections, constant um infections, and even the autopsy has shown uh repeated sexual abuse. Her um body was um not right for a child, unfortunately. But the the ritual itself they call it that they had she had a garot around her neck, but it actually wasn't a garot. It was um a device that was used to teach submissiveness. It was a just it was a device around her neck that was also tied to her legs or arms. And the more she squirmed, the tighter it went around the neck. And the whole purpose of it was to teach not submissiveness. I don't know what the word I'm thinking of, but they wanted to teach obedience, kind of what like obedience obedience, yeah. It was um that type of thing. And what I think so during the rituals ahead of time, John Bonnet told everybody that Santa Claus was coming to her house again, a second Santa was coming. I thought that that was interesting. Also, the story the family has was she came in and went straight to bed, but she had pineapple in her stomach. And the pineapple, I think, could have been another drug, or she was clearly the story they gave is not right, but she had pineapple in her stomach that had to have come. It was just an hour or two before she passed away. And um, to me, that is probably she was obviously drugged a few times, but in these cases, like the mom might be drugged, they might have given her a drug to for her to pass out, you know, or or I think the Masonic ritual abuse. I think people came to the house that that night and the ceremony was, you know, around there. I think because then she had the big hit on the head. So she had a skull fracture as well. And the skull fracture and the suffocation happened at the same time. They weren't apart, and both of them were um the skull fracture could have killed her and the suffocation, but I think she died of suffocation. But what I think happened was I think the mom walked in on the ceremony and started screaming horribly. And there is an interview with Burke that he says um mom was running around going ballistic, I think was his words or something. And they couldn't cook, so I think it was a ritual that went bad, and she was choking, which wasn't the purpose. They didn't want to kill her, they just wanted to teach her to be submissive, and they couldn't cut the garat because it got tangled in her necklace. And I think to get her from stopping moving because it was making it worse, someone hit her on the head with a baseball bat, or and that's what caused the skull fracture because they happened probably at the same time, and then I think after that, and John Podesta was in town that in Boulder, Colorado, at that point. We all know about him. Um, you know, there was probably quite a few people at the ceremony, and then um I think she accidentally passed away. And then I think they told Patsy to, she wrote the ransom note. It was a three-page, very weird ransom note in her handwriting. Um, but I I don't she wasn't the killer, but everybody had a role. The father hosted the group. Um, the mother wrote the the letter, lied, you know, to everybody. And it's a crime that you can't even, it's unconsciousable, you know, was that would a father would allow that and invite people over for that to happen. And again, like the crime itself, or the he owned a tech company as well, but and he wasn't that smart of a guy, like you know. I what how did he get the tech company? What came first, I guess, is what I'm trying to get to.

unknown 56:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:44

How did that affect you studying that after the events that you went through? Did that bring up stuff from your own experience? Because you had obviously a different um type of experience in a sense, you know, of where this happened and how this happened to you and how you were lured. But it's also eerily similar to your testimony with, like you said, a group conspiring against a victim leading to abuse ultimately. You know, just the outcomes were different. Luckily, we have you here today, and it's really tragic that she's not here, you know, to share her own story. I know, right?

SPEAKER_02 57:27

I think it was definitely part of my heal healing. And I think it was part of I was obsessed with it because of the Masonic ritual abuse side. I didn't know that that's why I wanted, but then also it was that family that unfortunately I I got too close to, and uh all the roles that they played. I could actually be like, oh, that's that person, and that's that person. And that's that's how this cancer has infiltrated our society, is we don't want to believe it, and we that's too bad to even think of. And um, I think that's why I was just trying to understand it, you know, um, make sense of it, compartmentalize it somehow, because I guess that's what it was healing. I've always um had a thirst for knowledge, but you know, I like I get on subjects and then I learn everything I possibly can about that subject, and then I go to someone else. I I go into deep dives on things that interest me. But I think that's why it was interesting, is because uh I needed to understand it more. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:29

And that's a very sad case, but it's also an important case. I think that that case really does illustrate ritualistic abuse, you know, and and how it can look picture perfect on the outside. She can go to pageants and she's just this beautiful little girl. This family looks picture perfect from the outside. But like you said, if you look at the home, you look at her bed, you look at her clothes, her medical records, you see that there's a trail left behind of things that we don't see looking up from the outfit.

SPEAKER_02 59:00

Like the unthink the worst, the worst of the worst, and you would look at that family and think they were perfect. You know, you would never imagine that anything like that could take place. Not just the father abusing the daughter, but the way other he allowed others, you know, to do. And we don't know that allegedly, but that type of family. And I guess that's the type of family we're trying to expose because they need to be exposed, and we can't expose them unless you kind of understand the crime.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

Right. And the people involved in your own abuse look like that from the outside. You know, we've seen pictures of them blurred the faces out, but we looked at a couple pictures of your abusers and they look just like normal people, you know, and people in restaurants, outstanding members in society, people that do fitness classes and go on hikes, you know, James Beard nominees, and you know, it's people that you would never suspect that are involved with this. And that's why it's so important to bring it to light and to share how these people work together, you know, behind the scenes and conspire to hurt people, but they don't appear that way in public. They're not hiding in an alley wearing all black and the shadows, they're in the light, they're in front of us, they're people that we talk to every day, people that we see, people that are recognized in our communities, you know. And uh I really appreciate you shining a light on that case. You know, it's really sad that that happened, but I'm glad that her story is not being forgotten and that it's still being investigated, you know. But I think that cases like that do help us understand what what somebody like you went through.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:38

Yeah, exactly. Help it make sense um of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:45

Okay, so one thing I do want to ask you about that I think is interesting that we have not talked about, but I've brought it up on all of your intros is your past in improv comedy and public speaking. Can you talk just a little bit about that? Because I think that's such a fascinating thing about you. And we've talked a lot about your trauma, but this is like a really interesting part of who you are as a person. So I wanted to just ask you about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:10

Oh, thanks. Well, my public speaking is I um I was in sales and uh it was an unusual kind of sales where I did a lot of presentations, so I was constantly I was selling um furniture, commercial furniture. So I did a lot of presentations, and to help us with those presentations, we went through improv comedy training, and that was part of it. And so uh, but I just feel like I I wouldn't call myself a comedian, but I did go through and uh we had a great coach from New York, and it was really funny, but it was a big I feel like everybody should do improv comedy because I'm probably the last person that would consider, but I loved it and it really did help me a lot, and so I identify with it and I use it all the time now. Like I'll I'll be at a party and I'll kind of go into my improv training, you know, or I'll do this. And it's not just about that, it's just an interaction. So I I think that's fun. I wouldn't say that I've uh practiced, but my public speaking came from making presentations. Um, I was um in the furniture world, I was in the ergonomic side of it, you know. So how do we feel good? I was kind of like a yoga teacher of the commercial furniture world. So we talked about like um um that a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:35

That's really cool. Also, because a lot of comedians that I have personally met um tell me that it's comedy is a really good way to sort of trauma dump dark things into something that makes people laugh and like to have it be comical to you, you know, to sort of like make fun of trauma in a way that is entertaining and it's a good outlet for healing for some people. So I thought that was really neat that that's something, even though you didn't do it as part of your healing necessarily. I love that you're using it, the things that you learned, you're using it in your healing journey and in opportunities to make people laugh and to sort of you know lighten up the mood a little bit. And I think it's just a really cool, a really cool thing that you've done.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:23

Oh, thanks. This is such a dark subject, but we have to get the word out and we have to make it as watchable as possible. And so if we can interject any humor or laugh and and laughing is so great. And I'm the kind of person that laughs at a funeral, like laughter sometimes is just inappropriate, but it's an emotion, it comes out and laughing is is great, and that's a great thing that if you're dealing with this, put funny movies in, you know, try to to pull yourself out of it somehow. Laugh if you possibly can. I always like saying that having one of those moments where I'm crying and I'm telling somebody a story and something funny happens, and we both go from crying to hysterically laughing. I mean like, laugh at my story if you can't. Like if you can find humor, please. This it will be better.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:16

And on my podcast, sometimes my guests that are going through the most horrific parts of their testimony, they'll sort of like laugh awkwardly in between the silences where they're thinking. And sometimes in the comment section, people will say, That didn't happen. If it did, you wouldn't be laughing. And I think it's just an important topic to bring up that that's like it's a trauma response too, you know. Sometimes, like, that's the only option. It's either that or like having a psychotic break or breaking down crying, or you know, worse, shutting down. Laughing can be a way that we get through sharing really.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:54

And it can be involuntary, yeah. And it doesn't mean you're joyful. It you can definitely because have you ever been laughing and it almost sounds like a sob coming out? Like it they sound um crying and laughing can are kind of similar.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:07

They really are, yes. And even crying, like we can do that whenever we're laughing so hard, sometimes we cry, you know, and that doesn't mean that we're sad.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:17

Yeah, yeah. Tears roll down our face, they look very similar. And anytime we can just let that shit go. Like, we gotta get it out. And uh laughing is a great way to to get it out.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:31

And it sure as heck feels better. Like I would rather laugh awkwardly than like break down crying. You know, laughing's like it feels better when you're talking about hard things to like try to get through the conversation than to break down crying. And crying's healthy too. It's not like I'm trying to say cover up crying with laughter. You know, there are times to cry, and that happens too on the show where people cry. And I've cried myself, you know, but I think like you said, it can be an involuntary thing sometimes for people, like comedy, laughter. You know, things that are funny and ways that we can turn something into something that feels good. You know, that's a good way to get through something traumatic. And it's it's just a good thing. I think that's cool that you've had some experience with improv. And uh I love that you take opportunities to laugh whenever you can. Conversations with you always feel really light, even when we go into the really heavy stuff. And that's a big testament to your own healing and then also how you're able to navigate your journey through sharing, you know, having it come out feeling light instead of, you know, the heaviness that can often be felt with a lot of this. Thank you. Uh thanks.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:43

That's that's that's the goal.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:47

And for people listening, you've had instances in your life where you've just, like you said, you had three days of the week where you couldn't even get out of bed at certain points in your healing journey. I just want to close with asking you what would be your advice for people who are in that right now and they just want to quit and they're feeling hopeless and they they might not even want to ever get out of bed. You know, they're just hoping it all ends. And, you know, how how did you pick yourself up out of that to keep going and going and going and going? And to be here today, you know, I think you're such a testament of hope through everything.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:22

No, it's so keep going, guys. Like keep going one day at a time and tie a knot and hold on, like hold on, and find one thing that can bring you joy each day. Just do you know, a cup of tea, a sunset, like find one thing you can wrap your head around that brings you comfort and just try to replicate it, you know. Okay, today I'm gonna I'm gonna make it to here. And that's and congratulate yourself, set yourself baby goals and then celebrate that victory that you made it. And then tomorrow try it up and then pretty soon and and reflect, you know, look how far you've come. If you're in bed now, but you're alive and look, look at what you've done, you know, be grateful for what you have and give yourself victories, you know. Every day is a victory in some way. Find it and capture it.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:15

And you are a victory and a walking miracle. And I love having you on. I love getting to talk to you. I love just everything about you. You're just a wonderful human being, and what you've overcome is instrumental, especially because you've navigated this path really alone. You know, you've had to, you've had help along the way, but you've had to go seek it out. It didn't just come to you. You didn't have this huge support system there for you. You know, a lot of the the support that you thought you had were involved with the most horrific thing that you went through. And so you're just such a living testament of hope and inspiration and even motivation. And I always feel lighter after talking to you, even at when we are talking about darker things. Um, and I know my audience feels the same way. I've gotten that in the comments that you're just a joy to listen to, even you know, the dark things that we talk about, you're just a good person and people can tell. And so I want people to be able to go support you. So can you share where they can find you on social media? And then I also want to encourage anybody who has it in their heart to donate to your go and actually not go fund me, buy me a coffee. And thank you to everybody who has it so far. It's been really sweet, you know, reading the comments on that and seeing how many people have reached out and you know, whether they buy you one coffee or a bunch. Um, it's really wonderful the support that people have have given you. And so I want you to be able to share where they can support you and connect with you.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:38

Thank you. Thank you. Yes, it's been so wonderful. You can um find me on Allison A-L-L-I-S-O-N 1776-1776. Buy me a coffee. Um, and that's been wonderful connecting and and seeing the notes. And I actually um connected with a girl named Nicole on Buy Me a Coffee, and it was wonderful. We even called and she's dealing with the same things, you know, here, but I want to hear from everybody, you know. If you just need a friend to talk to, you want to hear your story. And to me, it was just great. Sometimes I just wanted someone to listen. I couldn't couldn't, you know, do anything, but but that was that's a great place. And the buy me a coffee is amazing to read. But if you want to reach out to me and you want me to call, we can we can talk, you know. I I'm available, I can listen to any stories.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:37

And you're on X also, so that's a good place people can connect one-on-one with you, is on Twitter or X as it's called now. I call it both.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:44

I know it's kind of like remember when Frenz changed his name to the artist formally known as Friends, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:51

Yeah, it's like hard to get it's always Twitter, you know, it's X, formally known as Twitter. You just have it's I don't know if it's ever gonna just be X. I know it just feels weird to say it, X.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:04

And I feel like when I say that, people don't know what I'm talking about. They're like, did she just say a letter? Did she just say X? So I feel like I have to say it's also Twitter, but yeah, a hundred percent. And so I'm gonna have your links below. And obviously, Allison is trying to get out of Dodge any way that she can. You know, it's it's not necessarily that she wants to leave the comfort of her beautiful home that she's spent so much time building and nesting in and nurturing. Um, but at the same time, it's good for her to get away for a period of time at least to continue healing and to hopefully, you know, get the target off her back enough to where she can live a normal life and not constantly be targeted. So I'd be curious to hear your guys' thoughts on the initial conversations in the comments, but also if you guys could go support her. Like I said, if you have it in your heart to give her one coffee or buy her 20, you know, every little bit helps to try to get her to help reach her goal, whether that's to rent her home out and rent somewhere else and leave for a while, or you know, have the ability to um completely move all together. And so I would love if you guys could go help support her in her journey and you know, help get her the resources that she needs to continue her healing journey, to continue to seek helpers and people that that can help her get through the trauma that she has, and then also to help relocate. And if any of you on the other side of the screen have any generous offerings, whether it's a space to stay, or if you're a healer and maybe something she said resonated with you, that's a really great way to help step up and help this movement is to offer services like how we've talked about in the first episodes, you know, whether to her, to other survivors, you know, your skills. I'm sure she could still use IT help for different things. So if any of you also have certain skills that that can help, I would love that. And speaking of, Alison, just real quick to you, do you have anything else to add to your call to action that we've talked about the last couple episodes? Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:59

Yes, thank you. Uh it's so funny because I was just sitting there going, oh, I I want to talk about that. You know, immediately I I, you know, I need help personally, but I also want to give back to this movement. And it's so important to me to help other people, the other victims. And initially I thought, well, gosh, you know, once I get safety, I can give my house for other people that, you know, this will be a safe place, even though it's not safe for me, it can be safe for other people. And I kind of thought, let's do this, let's just grassroots. Like there's no help. I know I've already looked for help. Um, there's not programs out there for us. Nobody understands. And so I'm just kind of thinking, let's do something. But the more I thought about it, I realized this thing is bigger than all of us, and it's so sophisticated and it's so um multi-leveled and tiered. And we need a task force us, is what we need. And I decided um the grassroots things isn't gonna work for the same reasons that it's so prevalent and it's so secretive. You know, we need to re-educate our police force. We need to re-educate on the date rape drug. We don't call it date rape. That's the most ridiculous, you know, there's so much that needs to be done. I I guess this is what and so I would I still have time and I still have the desire. I could make this my full-time profession. I have 20 hours a week. Where I'm now I'm like, we need to go to the government. Have we done that before? You know, we need a task force and I'll head it up. Does anybody want to jump in? We can do it together. But I was gonna start um seeing if I can get a task force for the victims. And obviously, I want the bad guys off the streets, but I'm gonna leave that for somebody else. But I would like to help the people that are suffering, that they can't, they're living in terror, they're living in fear for their lives, they've been traumatized to the point they need help. We all need help, you know. This is this is a horrible thing to live with. And um I would like to see what we could do. So, anyways, that's where I am with it right now, the call to action. And if anybody wants to join, we can start doing some conference calls. And uh I I've never been very political, but I will be now. This is a this is a cause I want to fight for.

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Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:37

I love that, Allison. And I think uh it can almost be both. You know, we can have a grassroots group that gets together and goes to the people who can make a change to hold them accountable and to come together as a large group and do that. And I think both of those can happen simultaneously, a grassroots gathering going to the official channels that can help make a change. And so I love that you're continuing to refine your ideas and you're sitting on it and thinking of it. And I think that's a fantastic idea. And and then, of course, you guys can leave her messages of wanting to connect on her, buy me a coffee as well. There's a little space whenever you guys leave a donation to leave her a note, and you guys can leave your your information or um connect with her, start a conversation and see how you guys can get in touch and uh she can respond to you on there. So anywhere that you guys can, please connect with Allison. I think that would be wonderful if we could give her things to do during this time that she's willing to donate. Not a lot of people have a lot of time. Um, and it's wonderful when we have you know an hour a week that we can donate, or five or 10 or 20. And so I'd love to help, you know, put Allison more in her purpose and help her move this mission forward. And I'm sure she could use all the help that she possibly can. So again, if you guys have skills, finances, if you guys have just an hour of your week that you could collaborate with her and help and maybe research how we can start doing this, or her uh buy me a coffee. So I would love that. And thank you, Allison, for sharing and for offering your time, your energy, and for inviting people. I think that that's a you know, it's such a good thing. We need people to come together instead of feeling hopeless as an individual.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:23

I absolutely and you can put my other email in the link too. Um, you have it though.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:27

Oh, great, perfect.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:28

Okay, yeah, put that and you can contact me directly. And I I just know in my darkest day, I just needed to say it out loud. I needed to have someone hear me, you know, and the the story is so unbelievable that it's believable, and we all know it's out there. So yeah, you can put my nema up there and this um could take this insanely horrible experience. And if we can make progress and educate and stop one more person from being a victim, it would be worth it. And I could see that I'm passionate. Like I absolutely would like to do whatever I can to help.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:13

I love that. That's perfect. Okay, so I'll have Alison's email below so you guys can reach out to her directly. Um thank you for offering Allison. And of course, you guys can reach out to her on X and buy me a coffee too. So lots of ways that you guys can connect and hopefully get a group together, and I'll be there to help as well, however, I can. And hopefully we'll have some more updates for you guys on future episodes with Allison. So I really appreciate you coming on today, Allison, and for sharing. Thank you for your wisdom, your guidance, your hope, and for also shining a light on the darkness. You know, it's really important work that you're doing, and I'm grateful that you've chosen here to do it. And I know my audience loves you and you know loves having you on. So I'm really grateful that we got to have this conversation today.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:57

Oh, same here. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. I so appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:02

Absolutely. And so for everybody listening, again, go to the show notes, connect with Allison. We couldn't do this without you guys. Thank you guys so much for being the backbone of the show and this movement. You know, I hope that these conversations give you guys hope and that you guys know that you guys are part of the change too. That, you know, it's us. They fear us coming together. They fear our voices. That's why they put so much effort into keeping us all silent and divided. And that's why they silence people, um, whether it's through targeting or other means that we've talked about on the show, really unfortunate outcomes that people have, you know, and their worst fear is that we all come together and become louder than them, more organized than them. You know, they know that we have the power, and that's why they do so much to keep us separated and afraid and targeted and all these different things. So uh we are the ones that they fear. We have the power. Voices like Allison's can shatter their kingdom and shatter their power, share, shhatter their elitism in a moment, and they know that, you know. So it's all a facade what they do. It's us that has the power, and we need to utilize it sooner than later. And so I'm really excited to get this started. And please reach out to Allison, you guys, and have all my information below too. Follow me on other platforms if you can. Um, and just thank you guys for all your support. So, with that being said, thank you guys so much for listening. God bless you all, and we will see you next time.