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S6E88 | Paz de la Huerta - A Guide for Victims to Not Continue to be Victims Anymore

Emma Katherine Season 6 Episode 88

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Today I’m so honored to have back on the show once again: Satanic ritual abuse, sex trafficking, and Harvey Weinstein survivor and whistleblower, acclaimed and professional actress, model, artist and painter, and a brilliant woman who has risked her life to shine a light on the darkness of her life and the lives of other victims and survivors: Paz de la Huerta

Here’s a little bit about Paz if you are new here, missed her other episodes or need a little recap on her testimony:

Born on September 3, 1984, in the heart of New York City, she entered a world of glittering privilege and artistic promise only to confront unimaginable darkness. The daughter of Judith Bruce, a “women’s-rights activist”, and Ricardo de la Huerta, a Spanish duke descended from nobility, Paz grew up in the creative pulse of Tribeca. From her earliest years she painted imaginary safe spaces and dollhouse interiors, danced, sang, acted, and dreamed - her spirit already reaching for freedom even as control and betrayal closed in around her.

By fourteen she had already claimed the big screen. In the Miramax production The Cider House Rules she delivered a raw, unforgettable turn as Mary Agnes, earning a scholarship to the prestigious St. Anne’s School, where she graduated with one of the highest IQ scores in it’s history. Her presence was magnetic - blending classic Hollywood siren allure with profound vulnerability. Audiences saw a rising star of fierce sensuality and luminous talent. What they could not see was the private war she was fighting.

From the tender age of five, Paz endured childhood incest, alcohol-fueled exploitation, and a pattern of control that spanned continents. Her mother, jealous of the attention and gifts that surrounded her daughter, is described by Paz as the architect of deeper betrayal: trafficking her to powerful figures, including Harvey Weinstein, spying through connected apartments rented to Miramax, and systematically stealing her earnings while living lavishly. A jealous sister, a complicit godmother, and a web of handlers turned every potential refuge into another trap. In 2010, at a Golden Globes after-party for Blue Valentine, Weinstein forced his way into her Greenwich Street apartment and raped her, repeating the assault weeks later. When Paz began to speak, the retaliation intensified. On the set of Nurse 3D a stunt vehicle dragged her ten feet in what she has come to realize was an assassination attempt. Later, under the care of neurosurgeon Aaron Filler, she suffered a catastrophic brain injury that took seven years to heal.

Five years ago, after a final year of brutal repeated rape in Madrid at the hands of her father, she escaped -  and with the help of the plant medicine Iboga, she painstakingly reconstructed her shattered timeline, and began the long journey to recovery.

Through it all, Paz’s spirit refused to break. In 2010 - long before the #MeToo movement - she went to a journalist. In 2017 she spoke publicly to The New York Times and Vanity Fair, adding her voice to the global reckoning even while still under the control of those who had harmed her.

Today she acts, models, directs, and paints from a place of hard-won autonomy, surrounded by the animals she calls her angels, grounded in Christian faith and her daily spiritual practice.

Paz is not defined by what was done to her. She is defined by what she has chosen to become: a whistleblower who risks everything to expose systemic evil, a survivor advocate who turns personal hell into collective hope, a renaissance woman whose creativity and courage refuse to be extinguished. Her life proves that even the most shattered spirit can rise, reclaim its voice, and inspire millions to fight for truth. From the streets of Tribeca to the heights of Hollywood and through the valley of death, she has forged unbreakable wings from truth, art, and unyielding faith. The siren survives. The angel rises. And her voice - clear, righteous, and eternally luminous - echoes as a rallying cry for every soul still finding its way out of the dark.

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SPEAKER_02

What's up, you guys? Welcome to The Imagination. I'm your host, Emma, and today I'm so honored to have back on the show once again Satanic Ritual Abuse, Sex Trafficking, and Harvey Weinstein, survivor and whistleblower, acclaimed and professional actress, model, artist, and painter, and an absolutely brilliant woman who has risked her life to shine a light on the darkness of her life and the lives of other victims and survivors, Paz de la Huerta. Here's a little bit about if you guys are new here, if you guys missed any of her other episodes, or if you need a little recap of her testimony. Born on September 3, 1984, in the heart of New York City, she entered a world of glittering privilege and artistic promise only to confront unimaginable darkness. The daughter of Judith Bruce, a quote unquote woman's rights activist, and Ricardo de la Huerta, a Spanish duke descended from nobility, Paz grew up in the creative pulse of Tribeca. From her earliest years, she painted imaginary safe spaces and dollhouse interiors, danced, sang, acted, and dreamed, her spirit already reaching for freedom, even as control and betrayal closed in around her. By age 14, she had already claimed the big screen. In the Miramax production of Cider House Rules, she delivered a raw, unforgettable turn as Mary Agnes, earning a scholarship to the prestigious St. Anne's School, where she graduated with one of the highest IQ scores in the school's history. Her presence was magnetic, blending classic Hollywood siren allure with profound vulnerability. Audiences saw a rising star of fierce sensuality and luminous talent. What they could not see was the private war she was fighting. From the tender age of five, Paz endured childhood incest, alcohol-fueled exploitation, and a pattern of control that spanned continents. Her mother, jealous of the attention and gifts that surrounded her daughter, is described by Paz as the architect of deeper betrayal, trafficking her to powerful figures, including Harvey Weinstein, spying through connected apartments rented to Miramax, and systematically stealing her earnings while living lavishly. A jealous sister, a complicit godmother, and a web of handlers turned every potential refuge into another trap. In 2010, at the Golden Globe's after party for Blue Valentine, Weinstein forced his way into her Greenwich Street apartment and raped her, repeating the assault weeks later. When Paz began to speak, the retaliation intensified. On the set of Nurse 3D, a stunt vehicle dragged her 10 feet in what she has come to realize was an assassination attempt. Later, under the care of neurosurgeon Aaron Filler, she suffered a catastrophic brain injury that took seven years to heal. Five years ago, after a final year of brutal repeated rape in Madrid at the hands of her father, she escaped. And with the help of the plant medicine Iboga, she painstakingly has been reconstructing her shattered timeline and continuing the long journey to recovery. Through it all, Paz's spirit refused to break. In 2010, long before the Me Too movement, she went to a journalist. Then in 2017, she spoke publicly to the New York Times and Vanity Fair, adding her voice to the global reckoning, even while still under the control of those who had harmed her.

SPEAKER_01

Today, she acts, models, directs, and paints from a place of hard-won autonomy, surrounded by the animals she calls her angels, grounded in Christian that I just had to leave that farm because my we have evidence that my family, and this has to do with what I'm talking gonna talk about with the gallery and why I have this new legal counsel that can't be bought. We're going to have NDAs, you know. We'll talk about it in the interview.

SPEAKER_02

Grounded in Christian faith and her daily spiritual practice, she has helped other survivors find safety and sobriety, dreams of building orphanages where vulnerable children and animals can reclaim their power through art and love, and continues to share evidence, statements, and truth on her social media platforms despite ongoing threats. Paz is not defined by what was done to her. She is defined by what she has chosen to become. A whistleblower who risks everything to expose systemic evil, a survivor advocate who turns personal hell into collective hope, a renaissance woman whose creativity and courage refuse to be extinguished. Her life proves that even the most shattered spirit can rise, reclaim its voice, and inspire millions to fight for truth. From the streets of Tribeca to the heights of Hollywood and through the valley of death, she has forged unbreakable wings from truth, art, and unyielding faith. The siren survives, the angel rises, and her voice, clear, righteous, and eternally luminous, echoes as a rallying cry for every soul still finding its way out of the dark. So, you guys, without further ado, please help me in welcoming back today's guest of honor, overcomer and thriver, courageous survivor and whistleblower, warrioress, survivor and survivor rights activist and advocate, justice seeker, passionate purveyor of truth, earth angel, my dear friend, and absolute walking miracle, the one, the only, Paz De La Huerta. Paz, thank you so much for being here with us today. What an honor to have you. You look stunning and beautiful as always.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you know, I'm starting to get stronger and and and healing, you know, I'm making a lot of significant changes in my life because what I want to tell other victims and what has been a big part of my personal story, and which has been so cruel, by the way, and um, you know, is how my family, you know, I have statements in my family asking people for recent photographs of me. I sent you the the one that James wrote as you know soon as 2022, asking for recent pictures of me to run a textual analysis, saying I'm a paranoid schizophrenic, and offering people money to find me, to give up my location, right? And then and then in that one statement, Judith says that I need to be found by Easter, as if Easter has a significant importance to the family. Now, for victims of satanic ritual abuse, which I know you interview many, you know that they prey on the purest, um the purest ones, right? Let's say that that's a part of the abuse. So Easter is a is is the day Jesus is risen, right? So I just want to note, you know, our last interview, I had to just leave the farm. I was staying out. And since I've been wherever I am, and with plant medicine, also I go to AA meetings and um listening to this healer called Louise Hay that's kind of starting to help me build like safety within because you know, I don't take any pharmaceuticals, I'm very against them. Um that my little dog was injured on Easter. You know, that that that incident happened on Easter on the farm, right? I don't want to go backwards too much because I'm moving forward. I don't want to go too much into the past because I want to talk about how victims can get out of these bad situations and not give up and to just use better discernment, right? I'm I'm practicing profound forgiveness, you know. I I still, you know, dealing with certain people in my life, but I am, you know, putting changing things because I'd refuse to ever be a victim again in my life. You know, I've been through a lot. So one thing I realized, you know, piecing together things in the past few years, you know, if I had ever escaped, they made sure to hold on to my belongings. Like even that art show I had in in Paris, I had to rescue those paintings to have the show. Now, recently I asked that gallery, I'm just gonna call it gallery. I said, I don't want to work with you anymore. And I'm blocking you because I don't like the way you talk to me, and I have ample evidence of that. And you're just gonna have to answer these questions in any, you know, deflection, manipulation, etc., is gonna just be seen as further harassment that I'm just gonna forward to my lawyers because I already saw when I had some paintings rescued in New York from Judith, that she had slipped them notes. So I already know my family tried to get in touch with them.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not an idiot, and I'm gonna show, I'm gonna bring that up on the screen for people to see if that's okay.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, show that statement, it's very telling. The audience can read it. She's offering someone money to find me to give up my location, and says in that statement, that there's a hit on my life.

SPEAKER_00

Pretty frightening.

SPEAKER_02

And then you have says that you're a schizophrenic, when that's like it's like the prime thing that victims are labeled by their abusers. It's always that you're crazy.

SPEAKER_01

That you're crazy. So now let's factor this in, alone things that happened in the past few years when I thought I was safe. I had an art show in Berlin. Now, apparently, this is a good gallery, whatever. The way his staff talked to me, you know how they would speak to me, Emma? I'm just gonna tell you. Beautiful Paz. Oh, beautiful Paz. I'd be like, um, like, I'd have to ask them to send me money to get my paintings wrapped, right? And I would have to end up fronting my money, my personal money, to have my paintings packaged. When I'm living in a third world country hiding, because I'm making people aware of my situation. And they would yell at me to yell at the property owner and then complain about the property. I mean, nonstop drama. I mean, since I'm getting more and more safe, and then I'll tell you the legal situation in Spain, you know, I'm sorry, guys. I'm not a fucking idiot. So they would talk to me like this. Oh, beautiful Paz, pretty Paz. This is not normal behavior. Am I am I crazy? Or is this how you speak to an artist? Huh? Definitely not normal. I don't think it's normal. So when I had a show in Berlin, right, because I did that show sacrifice, you know, they I only stayed in that country as long as I did because I knew they'd tried to make my life hell so that I would run through the little money I had as fast as possible. I knew they were gonna pay off that French penalist. I knew a lot of things. So, you know, people can see however I did what I did as dumb, but it wasn't that dumb because Tunisia is a third of the the Tunisian dinar is a third of the euro and the dollar. Had I been anywhere else and trusted in the judicial system and my work, knowing my family has paid off entire film studios, I'd probably be dead. I mean, not that these clowns didn't want to hurt me either. I'm just saying I had to weigh my options. So, you know, just such rude people. So when I had that show, I'm like, so what hotel will I stay in? Juta, who, you know, gets the Academy Award for rude, uneducated, harassing behavior out of all the clowns that work at that gallery, and I've forwarded my new legal team, all of those correspondences, shows me a hotel that probab in Berlin that I wouldn't even stay in if I was homeless. Like probably 40 euros a night. No, I'm not joking. It gets even better. Then Nils, the owner, says, Oh, oh, oh, you don't like that? I'll give you an I'll I I will choose the hotel personally. I'll pay for it even, right? This is a gallery owner. These people are so fucking uneducated. Do they realize that I was born in New York City? That I, you know, am friends with people like Francesco Clemente, um, Larry Gagosian lived above us in Soho. I am familiar with the industry, the art world, and I know what's not acceptable. Just as a just even as a human being, right? You you don't have to have walked red carpets with Jack Nicholson to know that I'm not flying in on Ryanair to Berlin for my art opening and staying at a fucking 40 euro hotel a night that looks like you know for a crackhead. So then Neil says, I will put you in a hotel. He chooses the hotel that used to be a women's prison.

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Why?

SPEAKER_01

It had bars. Oh, yes, this is a real story, and this is just in the past years. So, you know, I'm not joking, honey. And the and the the the title of the show was sacrifice, and it was because simultaneously, as if this wasn't abusive enough, I was receiving death threats from Almodena Arswaga and the Dardar brothers in my email, a picture of me in a bed that said Paz de la Muerta, right? And that's what that show was about. So, as if, you know, come on, let's call a spade a spade. I know my family contacted you, as they do everyone. You you you mean to tell me you did not accept money from my family to probably torture me the past three years?

SPEAKER_02

Awful so sinister and evil.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, dude, I mean, it's to be expected at this point in my life. It's just this is why when I made that TikTok, which by the way tells pretty much my whole story, but the story continues. And I don't want to say who, but a friend who's a tech, we can't get back into that TikTok. We can't change the password. It's too look, Emma, it's to be expected the stakes are high right now, and this is why I wanted to do this podcast. I told the gallery I'm not working with them anymore. I told them I need inventory of my artwork to know it's safe. And I said, any, and then there's this this hate and lies. So I just want a phone call. I'm like, no, you get no phone call, you get no contact with me. Good for you. I mean, uh, yeah, I mean, you people have are fucking depraved.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not an idiot, you know, it's so sad how many people can be bought. Like everybody has except there hasn't been anybody that's been offered that money that's been like, I would never take money from harm has.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah, don't be surprised. So even my acting manager, you know, you know, I leave it. I now have some very Christian lawyers that cannot will not accept any money to harm me. They made a pact. Good. And I will, and I will just say that I am building a community of Christian healers around me that are going to ensure that I am no longer abused. Good. Not the people I rent from, not the people I do therapy with, not the lawyers I employ. What I have been through is an abomination since 2010, since my whole life. I have only ever spoken out. I mean, just you know, let's not even get into those nasty women that are supposed to be protecting other women who just, you know, totally, you know, they're jealous. I am a very talented woman. I'm a very good actress, I'm a great model. You know, I they wanted to make me run through that money, purposely not sell paintings, abuse me, humiliate me publicly, as if they hadn't already, you know, hitting me with a truck, you know, putting unattractive pictures of me on the internet. I mean, at what point does an ethical journalist step forward and tell my story? Thank you. Amen, right? In Jesus' name. Yeah. At what point does an ethical journalist step forward and tell my real story? And I'm holding a Bible.

SPEAKER_00

So I wanted to share that update legally.

SPEAKER_01

They're summoning people in Madrid right now. My Spanish penalist that my aunt found me, who is familiar with the family, and has won cases against my father. They put a summons out for my father and Judith. And Stella Larby, one of their traffickers who tried to kill me in Zurich, and one of the worst ones, Almodena Urswaga, the girl, this like Down syndrome girl. I was put in under 50 euro hotel a night, raped and beaten for a year, only five years ago. So they're they've put summons out, but I owe him 10,000 euros. And, you know, it's not in my imagination because my tech friend witnessed it. The payments on my GoFundMe are stalled. Oh. Yeah, yeah. I don't, I'm not surprised. I have been fighting very corrupt, evil people for a long time. And I uploaded my correct passport and a bank statement, and even that it didn't go through. I want to tell the audience if anyone wants to contribute to this, you know, I will give you my lawyer's bank details, not even mine, and you send him the money. I have never, I am the least, you know what's so funny with all this, you know, stealing my clothes, stealing my money, paying off my lawyers, paying my gallery to torture me, play, paying the realtor to torture me. All this shit. I just, you know, I I I just I went here. You get it? Like I didn't I didn't go, oh I don't have any money, I'm gonna die. All this shit has only brought me closer to God and God's free. You know, thank God the healer came with the plant medicine, and wherever I am, I'm safe and grounding and healing. And I bought this crucifix. I said, Lord, you restore me to complete sanity in the name of Jesus. So even today at church, I asked God to forgive me for ever even having any vanity, you know, like beauty is in her, and we have to have a sense of humor, Emma.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we do. If we don't laugh, we're just gonna cry our way through it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, and trust me, I've been crying, you know, but I'm happy to start to find people I feel safe with. I mean, the thing is, yes, I want my own home. I want, you know, and and and and now with my lawyers, they've first hand witnessed the gaslighting from a number of those predatory women like Karautis and Amanda de Cadenay and Jane Fonda. Jane was at my My mother's 50th birthday. Jane is all over the Epstein files. Jane is a fucking demon. Jane was always jealous of me. Jealous. Told me while I was being trafficked to Weinstein at 17 years old that Jack Nicholson wouldn't protect me. I mean, horrible things. And I'm not afraid of any of these people. They're, you know, they're Satanists. And I think what the audience needs to understand, and I've risked my life, my traffickers were women. Christina, Judith. They were very ugly, insecure women. And I'm a very beautiful woman. It's not hard to figure out what's going on here.

SPEAKER_00

I haven't deserved this. Do you think I deserve this? No.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my you have had I'm bouncing it off of you.

SPEAKER_01

I'm bouncing it off of you as I haven't deserved it.

SPEAKER_02

No. And you've handled this so well for somebody who's had so many assassination attempts. You've been abused since the time you can remember as a child. You've had no peace in your life. Everywhere you go, you're stock targeted. People are bought off.

SPEAKER_01

It has to end. It has to end.

SPEAKER_02

And you've still been so graceful and fierce, of course, with getting justice, but you have not given me a choice.

SPEAKER_01

What was I gonna let them kill me or put me in one of those places? I'm not crazy. No, anyone and nobody likes being hit with trucks or beaten to death or given brain injuries. I'm sorry. Like I mean, call me crazy. I'm sorry. Nobody likes being drugged. These people had control over my life.

SPEAKER_02

What I said, abused by your father. I mean, this stuff's just been ongoing for you your whole life.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I know. And this is why you have your podcast, and I will, you know, thanks to my new legal team, which is continuing to grow, we're going to have NDAs. We're going to have new managers and gallery people screened. If they have a problem talking with my legal team, you know, they're you have no access to me.

SPEAKER_00

I deserve to move on with my life. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And I know you can't really talk about the case too much, but how do they feel? Does your legal team feel confident that they'll be able to move some mountains this time around and help get justice? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I mean, I'm I just I mean, this is what I've told you. There are there are warrants out for my parents' arrest in Spain as we speak. But I owe the lawyer 10,000 euros. Please attach my email. You can put my personal email, which is Proton Mail, which can't be hacked. If anyone is interested in helping, instead of going through my GoFundMe, just email me. And I have no problem sending you his bank details. I don't, you know, I'm so used. I have learned to live on very little. I don't have to pay for medication. I don't you know their their evil intentions had the reverse effect on me. I decided to go inward and heal. I decided to get very into my spiritual practice. So, you know, they've lost. Because I'm only gonna get wiser.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah, you keep overcoming every obstacle they they think is gonna destroy you, including death attempts on your life.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I was supposed to do a show in Düsseldorf, I canceled it. I'm like, dude, like if by now you think things like I do love getting my hair and makeup done, and I'm a great model, but if you think things like that, I'm gonna risk my life to do it, it's not gonna happen, right?

SPEAKER_02

Right. Um, anyways, and I I just want to where you're at, but are you safe?

SPEAKER_01

No, I just want a white wall. I mean, if you read that statement, Judith asked for a time zone, that's how specific she is.

SPEAKER_02

And if you want, I can draw that up. And I don't know if you want to read some of it or if you want me to, but you can read it.

SPEAKER_01

Why don't you read it?

SPEAKER_02

Okay, I'm just gonna read this for you guys if you guys are listening. I was told by Paz de La Huerta to not pick up any unknown numbers. She had suspected foul play as she was working with lawyers trying to get her justice. Then two days later, on April 14th, 2022, I received two missed calls from the United Nations Population Council office. I know this is where Judith Bruce works. I purposefully did not pick up due to Paz's warning. About an hour later, I received a phone call from an unknown number. I picked it up and it was an unknown woman who asked for me. I said, yes, this is James. Then she handed the phone over to Judith, who then asked if I knew where her daughter was. She said there was important medical information she wanted to speak to her about. I said I was not sure where she was. She pried again and asked if I at least knew what time zone Paz was in, and I said I assumed she was in Europe. Judith asked if she was in Spain, and I said that I assumed she was in Madrid. Judith then divulged that Paz was hit, has a hit on her life, and that she is likely being sex trafficked and has been trafficked in the past. Judith said that she knew her daughter has probably had horrible things, has probably said horrible things about her, but Paz is a paranoid schizophrenic and the disease runs in the family. She also mentioned the lie detector test and that it is not a valid form of truth. And we all know Paz is an incredible method actress, which I agreed, and the lie detector test only works for what the user currently believes at the time of the test. Judith offered to buy me a ticket to Europe to find Paz and check up on her and give up her location. Judith also asked if I could send any recent photos of Paz so she could run a textural analysis on the background of the photo after I mentioned Paz had recently done a photo shoot and seemed like she was in a safe place. This all was very bizarre to me. Then Judith mentioned that it was almost Easter and that Easter has always been a very important holiday for Paz since she was a little girl. It seemed to me that they were trying to track Paz down before Easter as if it had a great importance to the family. I did not respond to any further contact as I was asked again to send any photos, if possible, that they could use to track Paz down. Testimony by James Orlando 528 2022.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's 2022. Now, Carrie Goldberg will have to admit, because I'm getting justice, bitches. You're gonna have to admit that Judith Bruce was in your office the day after I fucking retained you, bitch. And I have an MRI to prove I had a brain injury during the Me Too movement. I was unalive. Now, what I've learned about this gang stalking thing, and thank God I'm building a good team of lawyers that picks it up. You know, like Carrie Otis in a message told someone, oh, she's suffering so much. The gaslighting thing, anyone that gaslights me or talks behind my back, this is why I'm approaching my justice with the eighth commandment. No slander. Slander is a sin. I remember Amanda Decatine during the Me Too movement. Oh, you've suffered. We know you've suffered so much. Yeah, when I was unalive. Why don't you talk to the women at the model alliance? Oh, yeah, Sarah Zef, who bullied me in high school because she was jealous. Like, no, I'm not gonna go to a bunch of people who tortured me since childhood for support. Those women are predators. They're predators. And you know, and they're very stupid. I speak French, Spanish, English. Amazing. No, I'm just saying, no slander. I won't, I will anyway. Even recently, my lawyer, we got, you know, I blocked one of those psycho women from my phone and they contacted me by email. I just said, look, you know, I don't want drama in my life. I'm sure your heart is in the right place. Speak to my lawyer. My lawyer's like, this person's crazy, you know. And in her email said, Oh yeah, Karayotis is afraid, and so is Jane Fonda. And I'm like, we don't, I don't want drama in my life. You people have no fucking life. I literally just want my money, my home, and to be left alone. Um, you know, this is this has got to stop. And I can't, you know, you know, and to help other people. I'm a great artist. I'm, you know, even my new lawyers, like they've always interfered with your romantic relationships. Like, what's wrong with these people? Even with a brain injury, I was in love with like an Iranian guy, and they hired one of their henchmen to put me in a mental hospital. I had boyfriends when I was in a wheelchair. Like, why couldn't these people just leave me alone?

SPEAKER_02

Horrible. I mean, probably pay them off too.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. Oh, definitely. I I was with this guy, Ali, and he was in recovery, and they had his, they told his life coach that he couldn't see me. I mean, all sorts of things. No, but this has been going on for 41 years. I mean, this is just a level of envy that is really a mental illness that it I mean, these they've committed the most evil crimes against me that you know, I've been told by lawyers they would get electrocuted. Wow. Like no, I mean it's it's horrifying. It's beyond it. And it's just like I know, but I I leave it to good people like you. I'm gonna keep focusing on my healing. And I don't want to talk, I don't want to give them any energy, but I'm just saying, like I want to create a new movement. I am not I am only seeking legal counsel. I have some lawyers that are Jewish, but who are genuinely interested in helping victims. I'm not looking, you know, why I don't have a book deal yet, or you know. They try to infiltrate every aspect of my life, making it impossible for me to work, make a living, care for my family. And even when I did get a gallery, definitely told those people to abuse me.

SPEAKER_02

And that's one of the worst parts. You are so talented, you love being able to be creative.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's it's so what I have been through is so fucking evil. Yes, and I pray that you know, like Jack Nicholson tried to protect me. I needed a safe place, he would let me live on Mulholland. You know, it is a man's job to protect a woman. I'm sorry, it is. I I am more traumatized by these insecure, narcissistic women that have nothing better to do with their lives than fuck with mine than the men I was trafficked to.

SPEAKER_02

You should be able now to spend your time working and be creative and and I just had to move again. I just had to move again, and instead, you're sitting here still fighting these people, they literally won't leave you alone. Like you haven't wanted anything except peace. That's it. No, I mean their egos must be so fragile, let's just say, insanely fragile, and they still, no matter how much they target, harass you, try to take you out, they still they're this is all fueled off jealousy and envy, and they still do not become one inch closer to even being you.

SPEAKER_01

It's just no, they'll never be me, they'll never be me, and and they're not gonna take away my life because I only get wiser. I only look now. Jack Nicholson's daughter has stepped forward to show me support. I'm back in touch with Scott Wyland's son, Noah. I'm trying to help him get clean, you know. Like, I hope someone like Sean Penn steps forward to show me support, you know. And you know, I've it's not I have female friends, I have female friends that go to church. I'm so happy. So it's just really I have female friends like you that rescues animals.

SPEAKER_00

Hmm. So look, we're creating our own movement, we're gonna be positive.

SPEAKER_02

You're so beautiful, sweetie. You are. Oh my gosh. I'm just I'm so amazed at you. I can't believe you're still standing today and that you're able to smile.

SPEAKER_01

I know, and and I'm and I'm not gonna give up on like you and Anna and um Scott, and we're gonna keep doing podcasts as this story progresses so and leave it to good people so my voice doesn't get taken away. And you know what I came to peace with? I don't I I don't owe anyone in Hollywood anything. I will literally, I said it in a little clip with our friend L. Anyone that hasn't supported you, and I'm adding to the investigation. I'm not gonna waste my time with a defamation suit. I will just call my friend, an FBI agent I've made personally, and say, add this person to the investigation. You you can't suck my blood anymore.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it amazes me to you how few people in Hollywood will come up and stand up next to you or other victims who have been brutalized by people in their own industry. Like, okay, they don't want to get involved with your family. Well, Harvey Weinstein is in their industry, like they should be wanting a predator to be exposed.

SPEAKER_01

They wanted attention, they wanted attention, they didn't really care, right? You know, Rosanna Archette said to me, Weinstein raped me, but he ruined my career. And you better not be lying. Oh, yeah, my mother sold me to Weinstein and I got hit by a truck. These people, you know, in the arts, you have people who by the way, Rosanna and Jane are like best friends. So these people, you know, and and and and if you go in the Epstein files, it says, you know, friend of Epstein, Jane Fonda. I mean, everybody knows she used to serve notes to victims captors during the Vietnam War. What? Yeah, I mean, it's true. I mean, the world knows she's a witch. I'm just saying, like, thank God, with those files being out, people are awakening, but they have to be awakened that it's not just men that traffic, it's women that traffic girls, too. You know, like Trump, who knows what he did to his daughter? I used to model with her. That's for her to talk about. That's her life, right? You know, but I'm just saying, women, when they're jealous, I mean, this I think they're much more cruel than men can be.

SPEAKER_02

And that's another reason why I I appreciate you speaking up because it is mostly men who people think are abusers and who are complicit in this. And your story shows that it's equally women. There's women that do this too, and we should we cannot overlook that, give them excuses. We can't write it off.

SPEAKER_01

And we have to make a point of that, you know. First of all, look at Christina's mother, Aime. She's very beautiful, yeah. No, she stole her mother's money and mine. A May's very angry too. Christina's a very ugly woman. Did I deserve to be beaten to death five years ago in an under 50 euro hotel a night?

SPEAKER_00

No. Starve to death? Not even able to go to the police. No.

SPEAKER_01

My traffickers were women.

SPEAKER_02

Paz, I I appreciate you. We're coming up on the 40-minute mark, so I want to respect your time. I know you have a busy life and a lot that you're working on.

SPEAKER_01

So again, I want to tell you that I'm trying to be wiser. And I am I am I am treating this madness once and for all because I got to move on with my life from uh from using Christianity, the laws of Jesus, eighth commandment, no slander. And I am in touch with FBI agents who are Christians.

SPEAKER_02

Good for you. I'm so happy that the right people are finding you and that you're finding them. And I'm also really proud of you for putting your foot down in all these instances where you are coming to see that people are taking advantage of your boundaries and stepping over them.

SPEAKER_01

It's really hard to navigate those times. You mean to think you mean me to think that you put me in a fucking hotel that used to be a women's prison? I'm an actress. Yes, I'm sensitive. Yes, I'm beautiful. I pick up on energy. If you put anyone in a hotel that used to be a woman's prison, they might have a panic attack. That was done on purpose.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely, it was. Not to mention your woman, you're by yourself. Like that's not a safe place to have a woman.

SPEAKER_01

And and when I asked this gallery, and I had they'll see this interview. I don't want, I don't, I really am so tired of drama. I said, Look, just forward all of your correspondences with my family. I'm not stupid. And they didn't. And I said, or else you're gonna be subpoenaed, and they didn't. And I already saw with my very own eyes a note Judith put that Case in held. They're lying now. Imagine how many other people have lied and have been lied to by corrupt people.

SPEAKER_02

So thank you for speaking.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but in the oh, it's only in the course of my life. And have has this little child deserved this? Has have I deserved this? No, I have every right to be upset, but I'm going to not let them you know take away my purity. I'm gonna go to church because kind people do exist, and that little girl is so proud of you.

SPEAKER_02

She's smiling at who you became. You broke the cycle for her. Yeah, I love you. People can connect with you through your email, and obviously through it can't it can't be hacked. That's the best. Okay, and then you did start another TikTok because yours got right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's Pazilueta 6. Perfect. I'll have all that in the show notes. And then my and then my IG is private, and that well can't be taken down because it is private. So people I was contacted four four years ago and told to keep it private, so people can follow there.

SPEAKER_02

Wonderful. I'll have all that in the show notes, and I really appreciate you coming on today and sharing. And I ask everybody to pray over Paz. Give all your prayers connecting.

SPEAKER_01

I love you. I want a little I want a little um screenshot because we look so pretty.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you look so pretty.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, but I love you. I love you, and for everybody listening, thank you so much for listening. God bless you all, and we'll see you next time.