TIP 'Movie Night | Max Spiers - "Bases at the Barge" 2015 Part 2

In this episode of Bases at the Barge Part Two, the host sets the scene amid nearby military bases before Max shares his personal story, beginning with his childhood in Brighton and Lewes, England, and a brief period living near alleged jump rooms in Los Angeles. He describes early occult family influences, recurring out-of-body experiences, and later realizations about trauma-based mind control techniques refined by Nazi doctors with input from non-human entities, creating dissociative alters programmed for specific purposes. Max recounts recovered memories of childhood rituals at a swimming pool complex, involvement in breeding programs, a severe 2008 crisis when multiple alters surfaced leading to assault, hospitalization, and what he believes was a reprogramming stay, as well as his ongoing deprogramming work. The session continues with audience questions exploring bloodlines, time manipulation, CERN, elite pedophilia as energy harvesting, DNA alterations, spirituality, and the potential activation of sleeper programs, offering a raw and detailed account of his experiences and broader interpretations of hidden agendas.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:19

Welcome to Bases at the Barge, part two, with Max Spears. Max is this is Max's first public appearance, and he was very nervous because this is something which he can be triggered on. So it's a great deal of effort he's gone to to come and display and talk and take these questions. So at the Coronation Hall, we have Max Spears for the Basis Project. Everybody out smokers? Yeah. Bloody ex-military latecomer again. Right, just to remind people that there is a meet the speakers uh at the barge at six o'clock when we will all transfer to the barge where we will announce the raffle. And um uh there's some there's very exciting prizes for you to win. You brought yours, didn't you? You didn't forget. Thank God for that. They don't use spaceships, they use interdimensional time traveling portals. God, for God's sake. Um right, so uh that was Max and Sarah, and now we have Max. And uh uh do you want to start just James Casball?

SPEAKER_09 1:36

We can do that. Do you want to do that? Are you on? You want to ask me some questions?

SPEAKER_02 1:41

Right, uh, this is the second part of the um spaces at the barge, which is held at the coronation hall. And um we'll be retired afterwards. You'll have an opportunity to have a social uh over drinks and things with um with the speakers at the barge inn. And some people will be going up to Knap Hill and having a night watch to watch flares being launched over the military plane of Salisbury Plain and then calling them Flying Sorcerers Landing. Um believe believe you me. Uh there's some anyway. Uh, this is a military training area. We're surrounded by military bases. The Illuminati live just to the left of us over there. The Illuminati the Illuminati live over there. Uh, but right here we've got Max, and Max and James Casbold are a couple of British super soldiers. You want to describe what that means.

SPEAKER_09 2:40

It's certainly not a word that I would ever use, and I would never call myself like uh super anything. I think it starts to get too much involved in ego when you supersize yourself with like that. But um, it definitely uh there was military presence in um what happens and what the agenda was to create and what was going on with that. I think I'm just well, yeah. That's got the ball rolling, so Max, over here. Okay, thank you. Okay, so I suppose I suppose the best thing for me to do is to start off um uh explaining my connection with uh James Caswell, and that began. Um we I I was born in Brighton in East Sussex in in England here, and um uh I I was grew up there until I was eight, nine years old in Lewis, which is just outside there, but I was going back and um back and forth from Brighton to Lewis, and um it just so happened that um Michael James Caswell was um in Brighton at the same time as me for those years, those periods of time. Now there's a swimming pool um in Brighton called the Prince Regent Swimming Pool, and I used to go there with my dad, and uh they have uh these log, they have these flumes, uh a black one and a red one and a yellow one, and they you kind of come down and you go into the water, and they have arcade games. And so I used to go there when I was six, seven, eight, nine, and they had um the one of the video games that I used to play all the time was called Double Dragon, and um I used to go and play it, and um I got talking to this boy who was there all the time, and um, we he I used to see him there occasionally, and we'd play we'd play this game, and then um subsequently, uh years on, we recognized each other about 2007. We'd recognize each other. Oh yeah, I remember remember you from there, remember you from Brighton, and so we acknowledged each other each other. I had been looking into esoteric occult subjects since I was very, very little. Since I was very little, because I always knew that there was something that wasn't right. I was having experiences when I was three, four, five, six in my bedroom. Um, it would all it would always happen when the sun went down and when it was time for me to go to bed. I um I would be aware always there was something. I mean, it's like the boogeyman sort of feeling, or the bogeyman sort of feeling. Like there was something underneath the bed, or there was something in the in the cupboard, or there was something around me. When I would start to go to sleep, it would make itself more aware. It would make itself more aware to me. And um what I feel now is that there were charmed objects um put and placed in my bedroom that uh and where the house was built as well. Um numerologically, uh it was 93 as well, which is a very specific number numerologically to um Crowley's OTO. So the number and um where the the name of the the name of the the road was high down road. Now high down is um a paradox, you can't have high down, so that that's also connected to um disassociating the mind, which I'll get into. So um there was definitely um presences in my room from when I was from when I was very young, and I was aware that um I would when I would when I would first start drifting off to go to sleep, I would feel myself, this would be every night, I would feel myself slipping out of my body, out above the roof of the house, out, out, and go up and up and up through layers and layers and layers of clouds. This is gonna sound strange, but I suppose it all does. Um when I'd get above the top layer of the clouds, there was a stereotypical stereotypical looking type of witch with a pointed hat on and a long nose with sort of warts on the nose, and she'd be laughing. There was two of them, they'd be laughing at me. And I I had that feeling in your stomach when you're falling in dreams. I could constantly have that, and they would be standing around me, sort of stereo, sort of like maybe Macbeth sort of type imagery from Shakespeare. They'd be standing around, and then they'd all sort of come around, grab hold of me, and then I'd wake up. So this would this was a recurring thing, and um my family, uh my family goes back just the for the last certainly hundred years, we're all involved in the occult in some way or another. Not involved in the occult. When I say the occult, occult just means the hidden. So it's not, I'm not not saying there were black magicians, black witches, or anything like that, but there were certainly a lot of um runestones readings, tarot card readings. Uh I learned astrology in tarot when I was very young. My mum was sort of wicking, so I sort of learned from that. Um so when I became aware, as I got older, six, seven, eight years old, um, okay, so there was an interim period between between the ages of five and six. My parents had decided that they were gonna move to California and move to Los Angeles. So they just out of the blue upped and moved. So from the ages of between five and six, I was living in uh just off Sepulveda Boulevard, which is in the valley area of Los Angeles. Now, there is um, I think uh Andrew Andrew Bishago talks about um the Mars jump rooms, which are situated on 999 Supulveda Avenue. And I lived right near there. And now the jump rooms supposedly, and this is this actually ties in from my own investigation. The jump rooms are only available to be children, are only available to go through them. Something to do with the molecular construction of a child before the age of um when the puberty that allows them to go through this. That's sort of like from from my memory, it's it's literally uh there was two two ways, literally like a door. So you'd go in through the door, stand in the door, it'd be like a maybe uh a lift, you'd stand there, then you'd feel this incredible feeling, uh, like you were being completely disconnected from everything, and then you when you'd come out, you'd be in somewhere completely different. So I I had been to Phoenix a lot, and Phoenix, when you when you look at Phoenix, Arizona, it looks very much like what the imagery of what Mars looked like to me when I was shown it. So I was um confused because I was taken to Phoenix when I was a kid, and this also happened. So I thought I was actually going from one state to another, but then um some other things that happened uh told me otherwise. For this so so um I do come from a um so my my background is Celtic and French. My father on my father's side, he comes, he's uh descendant from Charlemagne, Charlemagne, which is a um uh a French uh French nobility family that goes back to the south of France uh from about 6, 7, 800 AD. And it's a um royal sort of lineage line that comes through France, but it it came through that they say sort of migrated, they took control of each spot and they migrated to another spot. So if we imagine they began began in Babylon, conquered Babylon, went over to Sumeria, conquered Sumeria, went to Egypt, did the so each one of these are the same people. So if we're understanding, this is these are the same families coming through. Um from Egypt, they went on to and and created the Roman Empire. So when I'm talking about when someone says the Third Reich or the Ford Reich, Fourth Reich, it's actually 10th, 11th, 12th, these are the same beings that have done that and pre-Atlantean times. So um Second World War was key to understanding how to have the complete understanding of how to create um a mind-controlled slave. Now, if you go back and look at the Egyptian Book of the Dead, there are actually instructions within that book, and that's a book anyone can pick up from any bookstore. It explains how to do that. But the sort of like the the modern Nazis, the modern Nazis uh perfected it. They perfected it. And I think that they got the information of how to perfect and shatter the human mind from the tall Greys or the Zeta Greys. There are two forms of Greys. There are the short Greys that seem to be that seem to me to be lackeys, they seem to be do what they're told, and then there's the taller ones, sort of more gangly looking, which are like this tall. They're also lackeys, but they seem to have uh uh superiority over the smaller ones. So this is all in a hierarchy structure. Everything is done hierarchically because that is the um that's the mindset of these particular beings. So um they're from from how I understand it, um, this present state that we're in, we you had the ananarchy um uh consciousness, stream of consciousness that is pretty much in control of this planet at the moment. What they've tried to do is make us think that the planet Earth itself is not that important, that we're just um some rock somewhere with uh evolving beings on it, and you know, but that that this is the only place, and that nothing, you know, when in fact uh Gaia or Earth is the jewel in the crown, it's the actual jewel, um, the most important thing, and everything actually is revolving around and focused on this. Earth is actually anchoring everything else down from uh ascending. This planet is anchoring it down. So um that's why all eyes are on this planet at the moment, because when we release it, when the human beings here release it, it releases everybody else. So they're watching for that to happen. Um, I wanted to go a little bit in, I wanted to go into, which is what I know about because I've had to study a lot, into um mind control in general and how it's done and what what happens with that. Um for for these specific bloodlines and these breeding bloodlines, um, they they they have to take um a child before the age of three. So to shatter and honeycomb the mind, they have to be the children have to be put into extreme trauma. So any way uh that you can extremely traumatize um a child before the age of three, um, electric shock, rape, um, extreme, extreme physical abuse, any torture like that, what will happen when they were testing out the breaking points of human beings at Tavist. Taverstog the Tavistock Institute originally was set up to work out the breaking point of human beings. So uh that once a human once the human being breaks, what um it it shatters the um the top of the spine here, it shatters that and sort of honeycombs into um uh many other possibilities for personalities. Um, because the body doesn't want to go, or the mind and the soul doesn't want to go through that trauma, so it separates itself off and uh so so what they had the the Nazi doctors, Mengele and uh uh Himmler and uh this crew the SS crew had worked out and they'd got information from the Zeta of exactly how to do it, exactly how to program it. So then once the um once the once the mind is shattered, then you can then in each of the honeycombs, which would be uh another personality or another alter, can be specifically programmed and to to anything that you want it to be. None of the other personalities are aware of the other ones. So you could have a somebody with uh D, so it's called DI MP D multiple personality disorder, but more recently it's known as disassociative identity disorder because it's not another personality, really, it's another version of the identity of the person. So it's not another personality. Um the so the the uh the primary personality is the front personality, which is all of us communicating to each other now. That's the front front alter personality, is not aware of if that had happened to you, is not aware of any of the other ones. Now, the programmers themselves have um uh ways of using color, tone, hand signals, um frequencies to be able to switch to another one, to another personality through so, like I said, but the honeycomb is there and switch to another one. So there could be one personality, which is the front one, that didn't have any abilities whatsoever to ride a motorcycle, to to shoot, to be a sniper, to uh do any of these things. But another one, if it's then activated, is then completely able to do it and has all these abilities. So you can that that way was the way to be able to create an undetectable mind control slave because the other personalities are not aware of the other ones. Um so um the key of okay, so so I mean I I didn't want to really want to get too graphic with it because some of it is really hard to talk about, and um so sodomy is one of the main uh uh keys to doing it because what happens is when you when you rape a child below before the age of three, um what happens is it sends electrical signals up the up the spine, which then explode at the top of the spine, and then that that's the easiest and fastest way to create multiple uh multiple altars. Um it's it's called vasovasal shock, and they also call it in the old in in the in the book of the uh the Egyptian book of the dead, it's known as the Key of Solomon. So that's that's another um way of putting it. Um I'm just trying to lead on from that. Um so uh M Mangler was the at the head of doing that, he was the one who was the head of um uh the main scientist for doing that and understanding it and learning it. There's a lot of I don't know if everybody knows who Michael Aquino is, um, he is directly connected as well to that. A lot of the people in positions of power now, um uh certainly all the Bush family, which are actually the Bauer family, which are actually German Nazi and German Nazi family. So when you had Project Paperclip, I don't know if you know what that is, but Project Paperclip was when at the end of the so so essentially we didn't win the Second World War as it says in the textbooks. What actually happened is that they went underground and then made it appear that uh they had that that it they had lost so that they could go underground, continue with the work through Project Project Paperclip. They uh uh they took all of their uh top scientists, military, strategists, and placed them in South America and North America uh in 1947. 1947 seems to be a major um key date for them because uh so you have uh the Roswell incident happening then, you have the CIA beginning then, you have the NSA at the end of that year beginning then, and you have Alistair Crowley dying uh that year. And um I think this all has something to do with uh a ritual that was done, which is connected to um Hubbard and Scientology, and Jack Parsons. And if people know if anyone knows who Jack Parsons is, Jack Parsons was a genius rocket scientist who was working in Southern California at JPL Laboratories, which is jet which is known as jet propulsion laboratories, but in truth, it's it means Jack Parsons laboratories. What he was trying to do was find out the ultimate weapon to be created, and what they were using, they were using he was using fetuses and using uh nuclear technology and fetuses from baby fetuses at the same time and combining them together. So they essentially wanted to have at the end a combination of ritual, black magic, and technology used at the same time, and that would be the ultimate weapon, and essentially we've got that going on now. Um so I I was saying earlier when Sarah was speaking, um, any of the outer heads, any of the outer rulers that we're seeing at the moment, any of the prime ministers, uh any of the uh uh uh uh aristocracy are uh only the outer heads. So for for certainly for the British rule British rulership, if you look at the symbol, you'll see a crown, and very, very often through the crown there'll be a sword, which is the Templars' way of telling you that they rule behind in the shadows behind the aristocracy. The the the Sachs-Coburg-Gotha line, which usurped the British throne, which they called themselves the Windsors, that certainly isn't their name. Um they're a German family who Victoria was the first one, came and stole the Jets. So they're Germans, they've been German for the last 120 years. So Germany really is at the uh rulership of this country, and they are still today. Um they've just done it subversively, and they've just done it underneath the radar. And um, what in in their mind, what better way to do it is to do you know, to than to disappear and then get everybody in you know in a comfortable position where we think we're everything's alright, and then hit in the last uh the last second, which I think is is really what's going on now. They're not able to hide themselves as much as they could do anymore because of the the the frequency of the planet raising. They can't hide anymore as they used to be able to. Um so there was what they wanted to do at the end, after the end of the Second World War, which was really about money and was really about testing out um collect uh the collective trauma. So we all as a as a as a species on this planet, um, we all have uh we're all traumatized. We're all traumatized uh collectively through the wars that have gone on. Outside of the individual trauma that goes on, as a as a human species, we're traumatized. I know just just just as an example, walking down the high street yesterday where I live, and uh a bang went off, and and everybody moved, you I could sense the fear. There's there's there's an underlying fear with everybody and everybody. Everybody on this planet at the moment that something is sort of about to happen, but they don't know what it is. So you've got a lot of people who were speaking out about these things now, sort of running to uh the solace of uh Christianity or a religion because they don't know what else to do. Um uh where the Christian religion, and I I um I don't want to step on anybody's toes. It's just all this stuff is just from my um understanding and my research, which has been 15 years of research, because I needed to find out what happened uh to me in 2008. Um I think I'll briefly go into what happened to me in 2008. Um I knew that um people had told me, people had told me throughout the years that that sometimes that when I would I would be sp I would speak about something or I would watch a movie with somebody or read a magazine or read a book, and then they would then say to me, Well, you know, uh I'd say, Oh, should we put this movie on again? And they would say, Well, well, you just watched this yesterday, or you just you just did this yesterday, and I would have no recall of it. So the I knew there was something wrong there, so I'd be missing time, or what I think it is, actually a lot of the modern movies that come out um immediately trigger, immediately do have trick trigger in there. So they're layered movies. So when you when certain people watch it, that will trigger you into a slightly other altered state, and then the movie itself can then program you, and you would have no idea at all that you'd been programmed. So I I watched Oblivion for the first time, and um I had absolutely no recall of the movie at the end of it. I just watched it and then it finished. I had watched it with Sarah, and then when it was finished, I I didn't have any clue what happened in the movie, but it certainly had affected me on an emotional level, but I didn't uh and if you think of how movies are laid out, they're moved, they're laid out in a dream sequence sort of state. So you know all movies are uh uh are uh there to affect the subconscious because it's not like one camera, like when we're walking around, it's one camera moving wherever you are. A movie is dream sequence, like sketch, sketch, like where in a dream it's like that. So they're doing that, and that's the uh Hollywood, which is um the holy wood, uh, which is uh they used to out out of the they used to create uh magic wands staffs out of this particular wood that grows in Hollywood. I used to live in Hollywood and um this particular wood stinks, actually, and Hollywood isn't a particularly nice place. Um but that's why and the the this wood that they use is called the the the wood of illusion. So the the illus the the illusion is created and stems from this from Southern California and it sort of pervades out through. So they do they're using the US as a testing ground, so they test it out, they'll test out different things there in the US, usually on the West Coast for certain things and the East Coast for other things. East Coast is more European, so they'll they'll test out different things there, and then if it worked, they'll they'll try it in other countries. If it didn't work, they'll they'll they'll they'll leave it. Um so we're okay. So in 2008, what had happened? I had searched and searched. I'd been speaking to to Michael, to James Caswot for a couple of years, and I we had come to some conclusions. We remembered uh certain things. Um my only memory of him then was when we were children. I don't remember him as uh as uh in the in-between time. I remember I recognized him when we saw each other, but I don't remember him only when we were kids. Um there was this particular swimming pool. They usually tend to use big bodies of water to because water is um a stargate in in and of itself. You water is needed to use uh uh frequencies and vibrations. So I have this memory, I have a memory of this, and it's it's it's uh strange. Um I had got changed after I'd gone swimming, and there was a door that was on the right hand side of where the swimming pool was, which is the Prince Regent swimming pool in Brighton. And I remember I always remembered it was a locked door, and um somebody who worked there who was uh looked like they worked uh for a swimming pool with a whistle or whatever like that. And um, they uh they sort of ushered me over this way. They said that my dad was gonna, because I was there with my dad, they said that they were that um he was gonna be here or he was somewhere in the changing room. Well, that I got taken through this door that was always locked. As I went through the door, um there was a spiral staircase on the left-hand side there. So the door, I go through the door, spiral staircase here, spiral staircase on this side. I was taken down the spiral staircase, and there was somebody else on this side going down the spiral staircase. So we walked down. I didn't see that person. I was just, as I'd gone through the door, I was, I I felt sort of like in a sedative, sort of hypnotic state where I was very uh I just sort of went along with it. Well, there's a word I'm trying to think of. I just sort of went along and did what I was told to do. So and when I went down the spiral staircase, um there was some uh sexual ritual that was going on there, and I was sort of watching it. I was sort of watching it, but without any feeling associated with it, just watching it. And then um there was a classroom behind this. Is just one of the stories where I was in a classroom. There was there was a c another door, went through the door, and there was sort of like school desks. If I remember, there was four, four, four kids sitting at each one of the desks. And um, but all in that, all in the state, I sat down, all in a state of sort of like this hypnotic state, looking forwards, and um a man came around, put uh what I can only explain as not a Rubik's Cube like that, but uh another version of it. I think there was another one that came out ten years late where you unfold it, or something a little bit like that, with symbols and glyphs and other things on it, and I didn't recognize what it was, but the man who'd put them down onto the tables had said, okay, go ahead and do it. And I and I, you know, I thought, well, I I have I don't know how to do it. But then he said, Yes, you do go. And so I started, I did it, and I started just to know how to be able to do it. So I was messing around with this, and I I linked all the things together, and they they sort of rewarded me for doing that. So this all happened over a period of what felt like an hour, an hour's time. When I came back upstairs through the same point, I came back out. There was um this uh the fruit machine, the the uh uh arcade machine that I was playing on. I sort of went back over to it and uh continued playing on it. And my dad came out and uh we were there and we left. So that thing that happened, then as I as like an hour went on, two hours went on, I had convinced myself that it didn't happen because it felt like I'd woken up from a dream, and you know how a dream sort of dissipates as you as the hours go on when you wake up, and I was a kid, so I I rationalized it and said that it didn't happen. Now, so this is when I was younger, so I'm leading now into 2000. In March of 2008, um I had a really um uh the so so okay, so I have um alters that have been uh made and manifested and created in in in my mind. Uh and what happened is there's so many of them, uh, and this was around the age of 31, uh, they start well this is the only way for me to explain it, is they started to um uh bl all sort of like bleed through at the same time. And as they were bleeding through, it caused complete confusion to me because I didn't know that it was like a complete loss of identity. I didn't know who I was anymore, and I didn't know um I didn't know my name. I didn't believe, did I I started doubting everybody in my life, and I sort of had this Truman show feeling that everybody who had, including friends from school, friends from uh the school that I'd gone to, all the friends, uh family members, that they were all actors and they were all placed there and that um um they weren't real people, or they were real people, but they were placements, and that um that sort of um made me have a sort of breakdown because um it intensified and intensified. This was three o'clock in the morning this started to happen. It was, I think it was like March the eighth, something like that. I I I came out of my house and I stood in front of the stood in front of my uh the house that I was living at at the time, and I was standing there, and there was then I looked across and there was two men standing. I've I've never told this story actually, I don't think on camera. There were two men standing at the top of the street where I lived, and they were South America, they're Colombian, they were both probably about my height, and they were standing there, and I was standing at the front, and and he's like this to me. So I walked over to him and I stood, I said, He goes, What are you doing? You need to get back into your house. And I said, I don't I'm confused at the moment, I'm not sure what's going on. I was basically sort of asking for help because I needed help from anybody who was around at the time, and as I turned this way, um I got hit. So I got hit across the back of my head and then hit, so there were two of them got hit from that other side. I went down onto the ground as I fell down onto the ground on my back. Um, these two guys attacked me, and um I was covering myself up, but I mean I got hit multiple times in the head. My nose was broken, it's still actually broken. And um I managed to get up from underneath them and scramble back into the house. So what I think was happening then um was as that as the um programming was breaking down, they don't want a person to have to to remember what's happened because then I'm able to stand up here and speak and explain, you know, what what I feel is happening. So they either want to uh discredit you completely, discredit anything that you have to say, so they would assassinate your character, um, get you in a mental institution or a prison as quickly as possible, or kill you. So um I was so I'm sitting in the house bleeding at that point, police show up, ambulance shows up. Um I came out of the house, they put me on a gurney, and I was in very uh I was in a a state that I it's very difficult to explain. They're trying to get me into the back of the ambulance as they as they were rolling me on the gurney, these two um men dressed up in uh um lab white you know uh ambulance men threw me off of the gurney and then pushed the gurney back down on top of me. So something didn't make sense there, so it was like I was being set up. This whole thing I felt like this whole thing was being set up. They then picked me up, put me back on it, put me into the back of the ambulance, and then I don't remember anymore. Um the next thing I remember, I was in a coma in um in the in the hospital, which were I didn't know where I was, and then they had decided that they would wanted to put me into a psych ward. So they wanted to put me in a psych ward for three days. So I was I was stuck in there with um some unbelievably unusual people and trying to get out, and so I was there for three days. Somebody told me, look, follow the rules, follow what they tell you, and you'll be out. You know, there's nothing, there's nothing psychologically wrong with you. I went through a number of tests, and there was nothing wrong with me. They just needed to keep me locked down for that for that period of time. Um so I transferred from so I went from this from this hospital to this particular ward. I left after three days from this ward, and then they wanted to then so then I was placed into a um a rehab center that, but um, it wasn't for a um for a drug rehab because I was clean. I wasn't using drugs at the time, but I was left in there, I was there for nine months. And what I now know is um that this is a reprogramming center, and what they were using primarily is um neurolinguistics. Um, and I actually found uh secretly like uh one I was just searching around as a big place. I was searching around and I found these neurolinguistic books. So they were using neurolinguistics to uh reprogram people who are waking up. I mean that they are they also help people who have uh drug issues, etc., but they were um reprogramm reprogramming certain people. I know that uh 80% of um the uh drug rehabs throughout the UK and the US are used as reprogramming centres. So um that went on from there. I uh after that happened, so I was 31, 32, if I'm th I'm 38 years old now, um they so as I learned this, I learned that I would had been being used for um I'm gonna sit down now. I learned I was gonna be used, oh I had been used for um breeding processes, for breeding processes, because um all these memories came back of bizarre sexual situations that I don't ever have any or remember any memory whatsoever of being in. And uh a lot of lab coats, a lot of um uh uh administering of medication that I had no idea what it was. And um so this ties into something else. Okay, so when I was when I was four, four or five years old, I was riding down a hill and I had dominoes in my right hand. It was a child's bike, and I'm riding down the hill. I lost control of the bike. I went into a thorn bush, and as I went into the thorn bush, I fell off. Uh uh, I came into the house, and my mom saw me, and she looked at me and she saw there was a dot, uh, a black dot in my left eye, and she panicked, took me to the um hospital, and a thorn uh had gone all the way, pierced the white of my eye and gone all the way into my eye. Now there's something symbolic about Thor Thorn, there's something symbolic about that. Also, the fact that when they pulled the thorn out of my left eye, they um didn't give me any any anesthetic. So I remember um when they pulled the thorn, um I'm as he came, they were holding my eyes open as they came forward to take the thorn out, just before he touched it. I remember um leaving my body. Because I remember often whispering, leave your body, leave your body, because once you leave your body, it's reinforcing the altar, the altars there. So they can then uh once you leave your body, then they can give you reprogram another altar. Um, that was just um uh uh one of uh a number of situations that happened like that. Okay, I'm gonna give you another scenario that happened to me that was very um significant. Um I went, it was saying it was staying in the same house. There was a two-week period of where I felt like there was bleed through of all these different of these different ulters that were happening. I had a uh it wasn't like it wasn't a dream. It was literally, I saw I was literally experiencing what was going on. Oh my my mind got pulled. Hold on, hold on a second. Okay, so I was um I I don't know whether I was on a ship, I don't know whether I was on a base, I don't know where I was, but I know this. That I was led uh but with two people in white lab coats next to me up to a um a big uh an like maybe an oblong square uh tank full of blue liquid, and inside the tank there was an Asian-looking baby, okay, and it had it had a big round face and it was smiling and it was sort of there. It was sort of like that. They uh these two people next to me brought me up to it and they said communicate, communicate with it that he he this uh it was a he, this little boy needs uh communication with you, you need to interact with him, he won't interact with anybody else. Now there was inside inside this uh um uh yeah tank, there was blocks, uh little blocks, like blocks kids would play with on on either side. And um they they then said to me again, play with him. So I I I focused and looked over where the blocks were. I made the psychic telepathically, uh telekinetically, I made the blocks start moving, and they started moving in different shapes in this blue liquid there. As that started to happen, the baby then emulated it with the other blocks. So he was copying what I was doing, and they seemed to be very happy that this interaction was going on, and they wanted me to come back every two or three days, seemingly, to keep interacting with this baby. This went on for six months, as far as I can remember, and then I was taken by um this is all in laboratory settings, very, very clinical, uh, a lot of steel, uh silver, uh, and everything was very clinically done. I was taken into another room by an Asian woman, um, and she sat down with me and she explained to me uh what had been going on, and she was very kind. This wasn't negative, this wasn't a negative experience. She explained to me that they had been using my um DNA to uh test and to use for different breeding lines, for different breeding lines. So they needed my DNA or uh sperm for specific lines that were being done. They wanted a mix and match to find out uh to create to create um. I think some of these babies, because they were just being brought up in a very sterile environment, like like in a base, like uh in a ship, they need some interaction with uh beings who have who interact regularly with people, so that when the baby is then incorporated into society, it has some idea what it's like to have heart, you know, had to have experiences with other people. So that was my sort of service to this particular child. I also had a very strong feeling that it was my child as well. Um I got explained in detail of why and what it was by this Asian lady. Um and if anybody has any questions, um and then I can sort of like move on with other things if I go with questions.

SPEAKER_10 41:18

Just that you said it was that you were involved in this breeding program.

SPEAKER_09 41:21

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_10 41:26

Okay, we'll then just that you said, do you know you were involved in this breeding program? Like, how do you know how that happened? Do you know how they were using you and were you conscious of it, or was it part of was it an altar or okay?

SPEAKER_09 41:39

So when when um when the breeding programs went on, yes, it was done in an altar. It wasn't done in um so in the front altar, which is the the walking around person that I am, they would never do that, they would do it in a separate altar. So there's uh a number of different programs. Beta beta programming is um the uh uh sexual programming. So Project Monarch, um uh, which is used for uh 90% of Project Monarchs are female, and they're used for prostitution, uh uh they're used for pleasuring um the elite in whatever way. And there's the small percentage that are that are also males, which are used in that in that way as well. So um I'm sort of connecting myself to that in that level. So was it done in alter absolutely, yes. Yeah, it's just because I had that bleed through at that time, I remember now uh bits and pieces, more memories are coming back as I go along. Um, uh and and I um I remember uh you know James Caswell and a number of different uh ones as well.

SPEAKER_10 42:43

And my obvious my my question to you, I've only recently come across your work. Yeah, why why you? Why the why were you chosen to go down the spiral staircase at that age? Why were you chosen to take part in all this stuff?

SPEAKER_09 42:55

I think um there are a group of volunteers that have um come down and incarnated into certain bodies. Um they, the the elite or whatever you want to call them, are all are aware when somebody is going to incarnate into a certain body. They're aware because everybody has a um harmonic signature tone, everybody has an individual fingerprint, signature, sound tone that when they come into the body that they give off. So they're already tracking and they're already aware of who it is. Why was I picked for it? Um because of the particular um, I mean, it really is down to bloodlines, because of this particular bloodline. These these are all seeded from um different um uh off planet streams. So you have the Syrian streams, you have the Orion streams, Alpha Dracona streams. These uh it all comes down to essentially off planet, off planet stuff and inner earth stuff. Um uh yeah, so so the French line, which is comes from Charlemagne, is connected to the Fisher Kings. They call them the Fisher Kings and the tribe of Dan, which the tribe of Dan um run is is the um uh one of the hid well they one of the hidden tribes of the uh of Israel and they they um don't really they sort of left it out of the bike they left the tribe of Dan out of the Bible because they thought they were blasphemers or that and they thought that that they were um worshipping false idols, etc. etc. So they they sort of pushed them out of there. Um so this particular tribe, this tribe of Dan, is what they were looking for because of the PSI uh abilities that they have, psychic abilities that they have. Um uh in 19 in the 1950s, there was something called Project Oak Tree, where it was looking for women who um were from that um particular tribe as well, and men who were from that tribe, and the children who were born from um mothers and fathers who came together in the uh who were born in the 50s, who had their children in the 70s. So from 1972 to 1978, there was an influx of these um children being born, and they were tracking these children.

SPEAKER_10 45:13

How many people just in regular lives, getting up, going to their job in their insurance company at Call Centre on a Monday morning, thinking they're living a normal life, might actually be like you, programmed and not know it? Because they've got bloodline in their family.

SPEAKER_09 45:28

Um I think that there are two million people um to some extent um programmed specifically in this country, but then you've got to understand, like they have a total understanding of the subconscious. So any billboards that uh they they they understand the rods and cones and the eyes, they understand that what uh uh the number 13 or the letter M is um we all really know what it is, and it's it's the symbolic of birth and death. When they created um the McDonald's restaurant, for example, they didn't care that um the name was McDonald's as long as it began with the letter M. Because when you see the letter M, it reinforces this cycle of birth and death. So you'll see a lot. If you look around now, you'll see a lot of M's circled or M's making a point of showing you the M or the number 13. You're welcome. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_07 46:27

Yeah. Um on is this still on? Yes, okay, on uh the breeding program, you you said um were the memories b bled through to you at some point that that actually happened. Was it actually in your adult life?

SPEAKER_09 46:43

Yeah, yes, that the memory came through. Yeah, before that, before so 31 was when that happened. Before that, I knew that something was going on. I knew that there was I felt it and I trust my instincts, and I knew um when I would get this is so throughout my twins, throughout my whole life, when I when when my emo when I got very, very upset or or or or very very angry, uh things would happen around me. The glasses would break, books would fall off on the ground. So I knew that was that was one of the clues. There was something unusual going on with me because uh uh I have a lot of bioelectricity uh uh uh coming off of me. Um so uh that so I so I knew there was something going on in 2008. There was a confirmation of it, and I had a lot, a lot of memories come back to me that were really, really, really unpleasant. I hadn't gone into um a lot of the satanic ritual abuse, um, which I can do, and I'm quite happy to do that. It's just I I I now I don't really want to go into too many personal experiences on camera because of what's happened in the past. Now I've done that, and then you know, is this Facebook and this and that and the other, and it's kind of difficult to to have people saying this and that about you after you've sort of poured your heart out of the street.

SPEAKER_07 48:00

This is what I'm trying to establish that 2011 we had sort of the same experience of of something happening, uh and it was it was um my best way to describe it, it's like a uh a flash of other memory, and it where did that come from?

SPEAKER_09 48:17

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For me, there were so many that came through. I literally thought I was losing my mind.

SPEAKER_07 48:23

Well I had the original experience um on the evening and thought was strange, but didn't really, you know, your mind goes some razor, oh just nothing.

SPEAKER_09 48:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 48:32

And then a couple of weeks later, I'm just uh watching the TV in my front room, and there was a flash of like a like a segment of memory, yeah. Um, which I don't recollect ever being in a chrome room. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah. Um, but trying to piece together the the pieces of jigsaw over like a 25-year period of well, 46 years.

SPEAKER_09 48:55

Well if you've they they have they have time travel technology and they've had time travel technology for a long, long time now. So when you when you know when you when you've got time travel technology, it's very, very difficult to really like work out, well, you know, was did this happen then or did it happen then? Because time time, you know, timelines are being changed all the time. For example, if I pick this up and put that down, and that I've just altered it because I had I not done it, so it's it's altered another line as well. They also have time stop technology, which is where they can slow time right down and then do uh all some really nasty stuff and then restart it up. They can sort of go, they can create working, it's really easy for them to create portals to create vortexes. There's there are lots of vortexes scattered across the planet anyway, but they can create them. So uh a bit like the adjustment bureau. I don't know if any of anyone's seen that. Philip Philip K. Dick's work. Um, he was an Philip K. Dick was an insider and um um uh put a lot of truth out in this stuff. So they can create vortexes or stargates, go through it, uh freeze, freeze time or slow time down and do do things. And then yeah, John D and Elizabeth I, John D um that was what had worked out a lot of that stuff back then, and uh I have a very strong feeling that Elizabeth I and Elizabeth II are actually the same person.

SPEAKER_07 50:24

And and didn't John D actually um he was working with demonology, wasn't he?

SPEAKER_09 50:29

He was a very uh yeah, high black magician, yes, yeah. And so I'd wondered for a long for the longest time, why are these um Gaussian demons under you know why why are we allowed to summon them and then tell them what to do? It didn't make any sense. So there's something going on on this planet where we're linked to these um, if you want to call it hell or whether lower frequency, we're linked to them and they have to do well if you they have to do what you say. The thing is they'll always trick you, they're always cleverer than you, and you'll always get backlash from it, and something negative will happen. Yeah. Cool. Thank you. Yeah, question.

SPEAKER_11 51:10

And hi Max. Hi. I just wondered if you could just tell us what's actually happening with you now. Are you able to control it better?

SPEAKER_09 51:17

Or can because obviously Miles sort of said something before you arrived that you know you've been um over the last over the last through almost three years, um, I have done a whole lot of work in deprogramming and um taking care of myself more. Because what what they also do um is they they um the attachments, they start, they they attach and then they get emotions and they sort of grow. So they attach and they grow on you and grow on you, become more powerful through your through your own emotions, and then they start to make their thoughts your thoughts. So then you've got to differentiate between is the am I is this is this my thought? Did I choose to do that? Or or or is this somebody else projecting the thought in my head? So which is very, very important to do. Um so I I learned over the last um you know a few years, and um I've just I turned a lot around from three years ago because I was um uh uh I was ending up in positions where I was almost dying um like multiple times, 10 times, 15 times, where I was on the almost, almost dead, and then not. So that is not, yeah. I've I've come away from that. It was really they they they seem to really want me to be dead for a very long time. Um but they now are not able to do that because they can only attack you if you're vibrating at the same level as them. So you if you're vibrating at a higher frequency, they literally can't even do anything to you. So, in terms of high frequency, you're doing doing nice things for yourself, giving back to other people, um uh taking care of your body in terms of eating things that aren't shitty, you know? And that is that is raising your vibration because they like toxicity, they like uh then that nastiness. So if they can trick you into doing something somehow corruption, you know, it's corrupting you, doing something, offering you uh a large amount of money to do something that would burn hurt somebody who you really cared about, then you are lowering your vibration and then they've got you. So so many deals are made, the heart deals. What the well essentially what they want to do is they want to break the human heart. And if they break the human heart, then they have it, they have us. And the human heart is the thing that's shining the brightest, that's the thing that's keeping us going. They're able to enter all the rest of the chakra points on the body, but they're not able to get to the human heart. So a lot of the deals that are made, uh acting deals, music deals, you you know, fame, everybody seemingly seemingly they love. I mean, people are loving to have fame, you are selling out. If you look through all the like the big um uh bands, musician music bands throughout maybe the last 50-60 years, somebody has died, somebody has died, and all of them, all of them, somebody's been killed, and it's usually the nicest one, it's usually the one who is you know the kindest or or all the the nicer of the all of them because they're that that way you're you're taking out um you know the kindest heart, and then money comes. Money and fame come with that. Eric Clapton is actually quite a good example with his son Connor Clapton, who fell out of the window and died. That was the clo uh Connor with Clapton was the closest thing to Eric, and um he died. So that would be that was that. Which is can uh a combination of uh technology and magic is a little bit like the black a black box like that, which you can uh change frequencies on because they have to hide themselves uh uh under the guise of being you know human beings here because they don't look like human beings, and sometimes they use a holographic field around themselves, other times it's it's connected to actual shape shifting because shape shifting is actually very, very easy. All it is is unlocking DNA codes and relocking them into another one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 55:18

Um I just wanted to ask you about your parents. Um, do you know who your biological parents are? And what's your relationship like with them now? Do they know about all this?

SPEAKER_09 55:28

Um yeah, I'm gonna be very careful about personal things like that. Um uh yes, I do speak to um one member of my family who I'm close with who who does know uh what's going on with that.

SPEAKER_13 55:41

So were they part of it or were they?

SPEAKER_09 55:43

It's multi-generational, so it's every generation back, every si is is is is part of it. All the way back.

SPEAKER_08 55:51

Okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_09 55:52

Yeah, you're welcome.

SPEAKER_08 55:56

That's it. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_03 56:04

Hi. Yeah, I just wanted to um seek a bit of elaboration actually on the question of uh timelines. It's funny, I was trying to ask you about it, and you actually mentioned it a few minutes ago briefly, as you know, there's a thinking that uh we create different timelines with every decision, yeah, etc. Yeah. Um so I just wanted to seek a little bit of elaboration um according to your experience on the question of um um well two things really. Um A um the extent of control that the elite that you referred to might have on on timelines, um, and B whether they if they are controlling that to any extent, whether it's on uh a timeline being what you know a consensus uh timeline as a as a as a collective group of humanity, you know, our old a total timeline, or whether it they might be influencing individual timelines if it if it if it is a case of in individuals creating their own own timelines. Okay. Um so you know, um just um comment on that uh angle, really, if you may.

SPEAKER_09 57:09

Okay, so so this so this so just to expand on that a little bit, um I believe uh that um the external world, the uh everything, everything outside of myself is a reflection of what's going on inside of myself. I believe that that essentially I'm walking through the imagination, I am the imagination of myself. I'm walking through the imagination of myself. Um, and that when you change something significant about yourself, you're going to change the external reality. Um, because this is the micro and that's the macro, and it does work, even down to the point of if you put a different shoe on in the morning, that if you switch up something around the other way, you'll notice that um things slightly shift and slightly change. Um, I yes, um, so uh choices, uh choices that you make will shift different timelines, but then it comes down to being able to differentiate whether or not it was your choice in the first place. So if I'm driving in the car and all of a sudden I feel like orange juice, is that because I really want the vitamin C and the orange juice in my body once, or is it because two days before I was um influenced subconsciously by something else that I saw somewhere else on a billboard or or from a commercial or something like that? Um so yeah, uh are they in control of that to an extent? I think when you understand your own thought thoughts, uh then you are more in control of it. And then then so so um if everybody here is a single unit, really, it's just sh uh broken. So it's one we're all one piece of glass, just it's been dropped and it's just broken into separate pieces. So if I'm I I feel aware that everybody here is a part of me, and uh I'm just explaining, and so you're me, I'm you, and you're just explaining things, reminding you of things that you already know.

SPEAKER_03 59:10

Thanks for your view on that. Thanks.

SPEAKER_06 59:12

Um, yeah, talking about um timelines. Um what are your uh thoughts about CERN and is how are they involved in manipulating time?

SPEAKER_09 59:22

Um I think that CERN is trying to um uh I think it goes back to what uh Crowley was doing um in the 20s and 30s as well. He was he went uh it was they were trying to open vortexes through through rituals and ceremonies to allow um very low vibrational beings in through these to sort of run amok and do what they want to do. Um uh CERN is what they what I feel they're trying to do because they're using like ancient religion as well. They they have a they have a uh a statue of Shiva right in the front of of a CERN, which sort of doesn't make any sense um anyway. But if they so if they if they do this correctly, they could tear a hole in space-time and allow these beings or these entities that have been locked away for for very, very long time to come back here and sort of make hell on earth. If the great work of ages, which is where it began from this whole this whole thing behind, when when Atlantis fell 13,000 years ago, they have uh uh a new they wanted to create a new order, so it's taken 15,000 years, they have they had this block of time to um get a perfectly organized, ordered, sort of like global Nazi state. And the the the capstone floating above the top of the pyramid is letting you know that it's still in progress progress. And when the capstone is placed on the top, then that means they have completed the great work, which is um the aim to have what I just said a global state.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:12

Given what you went through, I'd be very interested to hear your opinion about the fact that the paedophilia within the government, where you know the whole Jimmy Savile, Ninth Circle Royal Affair thing, it's all coming to light now. Yeah. I mean, uh I I would assume that that would be information that they wouldn't want to come to light, the ruling families, because it's beginning to make people question. We were coming out for a general election and people are thinking I'm not gonna vote because we're run by a bunch of murdering paedophiles. It's in the Sunday mirror now. Right. It's coming to light very, very, very quickly.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:41

That's the thing, but that makes me feel um that there's something more going on with it because um, like like I said, the sort of the people who seem seemingly are in control are all expendable. And um, I I you know I think, yeah, there is this consciousness is raising, but I think they have something else up their sleeve, and I don't think it's just gonna be as simple as okay, rising up, yes, um uh these people have done that, yes. Prince Charles has done that. I I've I have memories of Charles doing like heinous, unbelievably horrible things. Um, so these people, yeah, will fall, and and then so what's gonna be replaced? Somebody they're gonna put somebody in a position to you think it's a double bluff. I think that there's more to it than just all of a sudden we're all waking up and everything's gonna be flowers. I think there's something else coming before that happens.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:29

Will we see an end to paedophilia ever? Or is it just part of this whole global cosmic way of these beings operating?

SPEAKER_09 1:02:37

They can't function here, they can't be here unless they steal um raw like life force energy. That's how they feed. They that for them to maintain how they are here, they need they they use that. Is there going to be an end to it? They'll be an end to it when they cease to exist. And I think that we're as us being the creators, really, we have to sort of almost think them out of existence. When we realise, when when all the when everything's out, when we realise what's really, really gone on, when everybody realizes that we've all been lied to, all the textbooks were wrong, we'd all been lied to about the um the physics, maths, chemistry, is all we is all BS. And when when we look at it like that, and in uh the influx also, the flat earth stuff that's coming out now is is insane. I don't have um I don't I'm not saying it is or it isn't that, but I I do know that where the way we've been told that it were the the globe system works is isn't um exactly right. Um so I mean it's hard to yes in in the imperfect world, but of course that would all be done with.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:44

Um Sarah touched only one more question, then I will shut up, I promise. But Sarah touched on this um about the children, you know, children that have been abused and how they go off and lead these awful lives, a lot of them commit suicide and turn to drugs.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:55

The majority of the majority, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:57

But if and if you have that trauma as a child and you don't obviously you have no idea why it's happening to you, let alone that it's part of a galactic thing. But can people who have been victims from children's homes and are you know currently existing in the world as damaged adults, can you ever heal them? Can they be healed? You seem quite healed, actually, I must say.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:15

Um yes, you can, but you have to say a lot of work needs to be done. I think a lot of work has to be done. And you have, first of all, you'd have to realize it that something had been done to you, and the majority of people don't want to realize that or don't want to think that, you know, and so uh and the rational mind is so strong and telling you that you know this is this and this is solid, and this is we're sitting here when you know nothing is solid. The reason we're living in a dualistic the everything is dual, everything is dual here, and the dual the dualistic nature of it is the illusion of it. If it's if it vibrates, everything is vibrating. If it's vibrating, it's going from one point to another point, back and forth is vibration, right? So it's going it it it there's there's duality within the vibration. So if it's vibrating, then it's um dualistic and illusion.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:09

Yeah, great Max. Um just a quick question about um Alex De Crowley because um I do believe that intuitively he's anyone who's so demonized in you know the public, um there might actually be some truth that he may have been a star person or at least had um isn't quite the demonized person that he's made out to be. And um, you know, any any person like that that's portrayed in a negative way, they do that for a reason. So is it that he is actually, you know, one of his light workers, and we just don't know the full story of who he was and obviously his connections to intelligence agencies and things, but there's a much more to his story than we actually know.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:53

And yeah, I mean he exposed him, he wrote and exposed uh in his books about things that hadn't had Not ever been written before. And so he the information that he put in his books, regardless of whether it was good or bad, or if he was doing anything good or bad, if when when one human being does something that nobody else has done before, we all collectively evolve and we all collectively get wiser. So in in that respect, definitely, and and I definitely believe that there's a Crowley Crowley connection to the Bush family as well. And I feel that that um Barbara Pierce, who is Barbara Bush, was the child of of Crowley and somebody else. And also, I don't think anybody knows about Candy Crowley. Candy Crowley, the uh news reader on CNN. Has any of anyone seen her? Just have a look at her spitting image of him with a wig on.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:00

Um I was just wondering how your schooling years were and how you managed to deal with like the system imposed on teenagers and then how that led you to because you said I don't like using the odd super soldier like you mentioned, but yeah, like how were you plucked?

SPEAKER_09 1:07:16

Okay, um, I went to a private school in Canterbury and um a lot of uh things went on there. Um I was I mean I'm just trying to be careful with names and stuff, that's all. Um I was uh confer christened and confirmed by the Archbishop of Canterbury in Canterbury Cathedral, and so there was that that ritual in and of itself by that person. Um they already had picked me then. Um I'd I'd been to a couple of schools and um there's a lot of missing time for me at school. There's a lot of the thing where I I'm not wasn't aware what you know that what had gone on. And there's another there's somebody else um in particular who's in the public eye who sort of don't want to mention, but who went through that with me as well? And um, so yeah, um I I knew I I was aware that there was stuff going on that shouldn't have been throughout school for definite. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:30

Thank you. Sorry, I just got one more question. Did your parents know, or do your parents know, or did they know what was happening to you?

SPEAKER_09 1:08:42

Um on on one side of them, on one on one side of them, they yes, they they both there there's Tavistock, is is Tavistock and Stanford Research Institute um are uh are prevalent in my family. I remember going to um laboratories with uh a best friend of mine who was a little girl when we were very, very young, and her parents were scientists from Stanford, and but they they would come back and forth from Sussex University to San Stanford University, and those two uh universities are the main arms for of Tavistock. And I um I remember some strange incidents happening when we go. The her her mother would say, Okay, we're going to the lab now. And she used to come pick me up and Meredith up. This is my best friend when I was a little boy, and we'd go to the lab and um some strange things would happen there. Like um I out of feeling like I was out of my out of my body. Um and then I uh we were locked in the car. I remember being in lot lots of times locked in into spaces with her, and it didn't make any sense. But I always whenever it happened, it was always sort of like in a disassociated hypnotic state. And so then when time went on after, I just assumed that it didn't really happen. Or or or some you know, you adults say, Oh, you know, you it's just your imagination, and I I now know they know that it wasn't. They did three surgeries on my left eye after the thorn went into my eye, and uh they had to take my eye out and then cut the muscle behind the eye and then re-brepit it back in. Now the S Sarah's seen my um eye, this left eye before, glow and completely become like fluorescent uh sometimes. Um if um I have extreme um emotions or an emotional thing come up, my left eye will glow. So I'm not so sure that they were doing exactly what was said when they were doing the eye surgeries.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:03

I'm sorry, but you're so fascinated. Are you are you still programmed now? Are you or are your alters?

SPEAKER_09 1:11:08

I would say I would say I would say uh yeah. I would say yes. But I mean it's it's such a long process process to to deprogram and there's a lot of work that needs to be done, and and you have to sort of surround yourself with people who you you know who you really can trust because you know I've I've certainly um not said a lot of the things that you know that have happened because some of them are really, really brutal and some of them and not very nice to hear, you know. But I I mean I'm quite happy to talk one-on-one, you know, with that. But I'm I'm more much more careful now about what I'm gonna say in front of a camera.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:49

And have other have other people contacted you?

SPEAKER_09 1:11:51

Just for example, you mentioned Meredith, and there's must be other people that I haven't seen, I haven't seen Meredith, uh, the friend from school in uh she's a doctor now, and I hadn't seen hadn't seen her since I was seven or eight. She actually works at Stanford now. She's she does that.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:04

But do other people do you have any contact with people who have gone through similar experiences where their altars have broken down and they're remembering, and seems to be a collective remembering of your waking up, people in here have woken up, people are waking, waking, waking.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:17

There's obviously an army of well, presumably some sort of army of you guys, and your friend James Casbell. If you could talk a bit more about him, if he is your friend, I don't know. Oh, he's not your friend. Um well I there's obviously a link there, you grew up in the same place, you know.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:32

Yeah, yeah. Um he he um is not happy. He just he he's he's very angry at me. Well, I I didn't have any animosity towards him. He he got angry, he's angry at me. Um but um he he I don't know, it's a bit difficult to go into his story because it's there's there's a loss, there's a you know, blackmail in lawsuits.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:56

You don't have to, but yeah, it's it it's interesting.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um the I so we're we're uh born six days apart. Um so we're both uh uh Capricorn Fire Dragons, which is very significant because the game that we uh the game where I met him, the game that we were playing was called Double Double Dragon. And so I think the game, the arcade game itself was programming and uh something to do with uh splitting, something to do with trauma um bonding, trauma bonding. You know, you put two boys together and traumatize them at the same time, you you you have a a link forever from that, you know. So that I think that was going on. He remembers that. Um, also these water slides that came down into the uh they're very symbolic. It's almost like coming through the birth canal and coming through a black birth canal, a red one, and a yellow one. It's very you know, so it's it's very symbolic as well. The whole setup of this rune pool and leisure center was set up as a ritual and a ceremony. So you come down the birth canal there, then you replayed the double dragon game, then spiral staircase, then this sort of like uh classroom setting. So these all all these things like tie-in.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:15

Anyone else? Any other question? I've had Benny from the back. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:27

Thank you. Um I just wondered because you're waking up, which I think is wonderful, are you now approached by entities or other presences that are supporting your waking up?

SPEAKER_09 1:14:40

Um I am I'm very aware of um my guides that uh that have been with me, or all my galactic family that is always with me, that has always been with me. I'm aware of that. I was very disconnected from that for a long time. And then the more you get the more you sort of become in sort of constant touch with them, the your decision-making skills sort of get better. Because when you're not connected to them, you tend to make really bad decisions, or I did. So yeah. Um uh what was you what was the am I answering the question right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:20

Yeah, yeah, it's um it's uh also because I've I noticed that there's such a change going on that uh the pos let's say the positive, the constructive powers or presences are uh approaching the ones who want to wake up easily. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:35

Now I also have the negative ones following me all the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:39

You know, and I'm aware of them uh watching, following. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:44

But do you if um are you aware of any communication between those two? I mean, what in the other dimensions?

SPEAKER_09 1:15:51

They've had to all there there was uh numerous uh div divided forces that in fighting, they're sort of like um uh a crew of robbers where they uh uh agree on the crime but they don't agree how the the money is sort of divided out to each other. But now they've had to get so they've all sort of kind of got together and uh joined to make sure that they get the agenda fulfilled. So the ones that had been fighting for thousands of years have now come together. Uh the the the tri uh the the Davidic bloodline, which uh King David's bloodline, is now joined with the Merovingian bloodline. They've connected up, um, which they never never never would have done for a long time. The the tribe of Judah is joined up with uh the I'm talking about the negative aspects of the tribe of Judah joined up, and this really does lead back to Anu, Enki, and and and Leel and yeah, the the and the original Anunnaki who created this hominid or this this upright species that we are, that we have now, this template of the being that we are now. They sort of put together. Remember, they've got the technology to build uh a being, place it inside the uh female and let it and let it grow, and then you know, they think that it's their child when in fact it's hidden under another name with sleeper programming to wake up when they want it to wake up to go ahead and do the the duties or the job that they want it to do. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:21

Yes, it does thank you and welcome.

SPEAKER_14 1:17:36

Hi there. Uh my name is Ashley. I wanted to know that in your earlier uh speech you said uh chakras. So I would like to sort of uh amplify are you in any way spiritual in terms of your spirituality and uh how do you uh balance the future?

SPEAKER_09 1:17:57

How do I balance the future? Well, I'm uh what I I'm not I stepped out of thinking about things that are negative and positive and future and past and up and down because that's reinforcing the dualistic nature of the trap and the prison that we're in at the moment. So um uh it's my my spirituality is sort of going within, and I found most of the answers and most of the the things when I sit quietly away from other people, and then sort of I'm not necessarily meditating or transcendental meditation has been incredible. Um and so so spiritually I've I find the answers within myself. As soon as you start looking externally for an uh for a God or an answer, you've missed the point. Because then you're giving your power, in my opinion, you're giving your power away to something else when you're trying to keep it for yourself. We've all we were all in this position because we've given all our power away to something that doesn't have our best interests.

SPEAKER_14 1:18:58

And uh uh how would you view past life and uh regeneration?

SPEAKER_09 1:19:05

Okay, so I would say that it would be concurrent life because time it would be an illusion. So it would be all uh the uh like a Russian doll, one with the other and the other. It's all happening because uh there's only the the um the eternal present that's that's really real. The the you know time is is very obviously an illusion to me. So how do I how do I view that? Um yeah, it means so we're living in linear we mean we're we're all agreeing on linear time because it's sort of makes it easier to meet up somewhere, otherwise we'd all be arriving here and or not, you know. So in in terms of that, do I are you asking me if I believe in reincarnation? Is that was that what you were asking me? Absolutely, because it feels like yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_14 1:19:52

So uh you would say that uh can we or somehow that we may have or may not have healing powers to heal ourselves?

SPEAKER_09 1:20:02

I think everybody is self-regenerational. Everybody can I think uh everybody can regenerate themselves.

SPEAKER_14 1:20:10

Thank you. Welcome.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:14

Maybe anyone better um this end?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:21

Yes, um we're all living longer, and I I know it might be a little bit of an awkward question, but um who's actually responsible for making us uh uh be older, uh sort of you know, being alive longer? Um is it ET or is it human beings? You mean the few years older that we're getting now, rather?

SPEAKER_09 1:20:41

Yeah, I mean like That's only just that's only really because of um uh uh the food isn't I mean the food is a little bit it's what sorry the food is a little bit better. Um there's there's medicine, Western medicine now. But we're we're really we shouldn't we should the the the human body is genius incarnate and it's infinite incarnate, it shouldn't age uh uh up to a hundred years, we should live thousands of years, we shouldn't be aging like this. So what's stopping it? I'm sorry?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:10

What is stopping it?

SPEAKER_09 1:21:11

Well they've the the the creators of this particular body um uh messed around with our DNA helix helixes. So we're only we're not if there's 12 basic root races in this particular galaxy, feline races, dog uh uh dog races, reptilian all a number of different reptilian races, mammalian races, what they've locked it down within the human body is only mammalian and reptoid. So we've only got those two, and they don't fit together at all, they're complete opposites. So essentially every human being has got an internal war going on within inside inside them at all times. And um most most uh promoted what most things that are promoted are are are reptilian brain based things. Um uh survival, survival type stuff. So so um you know uh eating, uh fighting, uh sleeping, uh anything, all those things, those th like uh sex without love, uh all the things that are sort of based upon um uh the pleasure sensor part of the brain, the pleasure part of the brain, the self-pleasure part of the brain is all but based on reptilian part of the brain. Oh, the R complex is called.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:32

So I know that in the human body there's um I'm not sure about this, but there's a part of us that is reptilian. Oh yeah, uh on the pelvic.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:40

The amygdala, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:41

Yeah. Um if we've got that, isn't that shouldn't we be inheriting that sort of um genium? Genius genus? Gen genome, yeah. Yeah. Shouldn't we be inheriting that genome for to make us live longer from that?

SPEAKER_09 1:23:00

Um Well, we're predominantly, because it's the neo-Mammammalian brain, we we're predominantly neo-Mammalian, okay, and and the older part, the ancient part of the brain is the amygdala. Um it doesn't mean that uh that we would live any longer with the we're either one. Yeah, I think that they're they're both we should have m far more strands of DNA. Far, far more strands of DNA.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:25

Well, in actual fact, we've got two strands, haven't we?

SPEAKER_09 1:23:27

We've got two strands, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:28

It's moving into three, isn't it?

SPEAKER_09 1:23:30

Because you're getting some people have more than that now. Some people are walking around with m far more than two strands.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:35

I believe that uh 200 million years ago, uh we did have 12 strands, and we was messed about then, and they took away sort of 10 strands, leaving us with uh just really two strands, which is one survival and one was the other one was procreation.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:54

Right. Mammal mammal and reptilian, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:57

So that did happen two hundred, if not a little bit more longer than that, but uh we we we are a human body that that did have 12 strands.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:06

Yes, yeah. I mean in in its prime form, how it's supposed to be, yeah. Um the the uh Enlil uh uh disconnected it and sort of yeah, yeah, yeah. There's still that war going on between the two half brothers, um, Enlil and Enk Enki. And you've got the spirit the the the the war going on between the scientists and the priests, which stems from Atlantis all the way up to present day. Yeah, yeah. The scientists want to have this body, live in this body, stay in here, stay in here for you know for uh for for good and continue like that. The priests understand that really we're part of a bigger thing than that. Yeah, because the Palladians have 12 strands, don't they? Um I hear, I don't I hear, I hear.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 1:24:56

One more question before we bring it.

SPEAKER_12 1:25:01

Thank you. Hi. Hi, Max. I'm Lisa.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:08

Hi Lisa.

SPEAKER_12 1:25:09

I'm interested to know when you going back a little bit, maybe ten minutes ago, you said that um there was possibly two million people that you guesstimated that might be of similar experiences to yourself?

SPEAKER_09 1:25:22

Um no no, no. I think that that that um specific programming has been done uh in in so there's there's um beta programming, uh delta programming, uh omega programming, uh one or the other. I think there's been um uh about in the US, I think it's been two million, about two million.

SPEAKER_12 1:25:42

So you do believe that there's been plenty of people out there that have been programmed?

SPEAKER_09 1:25:45

Yes. Loads and loads.

SPEAKER_12 1:25:46

And 90%, 95% haven't don't have any idea. Okay. And so what do you think that end game is? What what's your perception of that? So if there are all these people programmed, what do you think the end game is for that? A lot of time and effort has obviously been put into that. Yeah. So what do you would you say then get or there isn't, they're just sleeping?

SPEAKER_09 1:26:05

They're they're they're they're there for a reason. I think that when it's shut when everything sort of when when it hits the fan, then they're sleeper, a lot of them are sleeper programmers, and they'll they'll be activated to do what uh they're supposed. I think each one will have a different thing that they're supposed to do, and they'll some of them are sh, you know, shepherds, some of them are to go and uh uh each one is different. It's military programs, sexual program, they're uh all different ones, but they're be they're gonna be used for that.