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Hollywood's Hidden Side: Training Angelina Jolie and Kate Winslet (From the archives 2021)

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Josh and Rich dive into hilariously candid stories about Josh's experiences training Hollywood stars Angelina Jolie and Kate Winslet, revealing the human side of celebrities that fans rarely get to see.

• Training Angelina Jolie for Tomb Raider, transforming her from struggling with seven push-ups to doing 20 chin-ups in 12 weeks
• Angelina's revelation that "the best high she ever had was being fit" during her physical transformation
• The awkward wrestling sessions with Angelina and her stunt double Eunice Huthart
• Josh's embarrassing close encounter with Angelina's unexpected bodily function during training
• Kate Winslet's undercover visits to an exclusive men's gym as "Sally from Cincinnati" complete with fake American accent
• Kate calling Josh regularly from the Titanic set in Mexico, sharing stories about the challenging filming conditions
• The complicated dynamics when Josh began dating someone else while Kate seemed to have deeper feelings
• Josh's similar experiences training Scarlett Johansson and other celebrities
• The unique position of fitness trainers who become confidants to stars during vulnerable career moments


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Speaker 2:

You're listening to Tales from the First Heath. I'm your host, rich Easton, recording from beautiful Charleston, south Carolina. If you're a new listener, welcome. If you're returning, thanks for coming back Now. I'd give you the whole spiel about how Tales has been downloaded in over 250 cities worldwide and is ranked in the top golf podcasts, but that might come off a little disingenuous, a little over-the-top self-promoting, so I'm just going to skip it this week. In this episode the second part of a two-part series Josh and I discuss his personal experience training Angelina Jolie and Kate Winslet. Now, josh has said things to me my whole life and, quite frankly, I could pretty much anticipate where he's going. But the details of these stories flabbergasted me and I'm sure you'll be surprised as well. I hope you enjoy. Hey, let me digress. I'm glad you mentioned Angelina Jolie because she was on my list of people to talk about.

Speaker 3:

You know, like Angelina Jolie said to me, that the best high that she ever had was being fit, because you don't wake up the next day with a hangover.

Speaker 4:

You know what I'm saying you know, kind of like what Arnold said when he was bodybuilding it's as satisfying to me as coming is, you know, as having sex with a woman and coming. So can you believe how much I am in heaven? I'm like getting the feeling of coming in the gym. I'm getting the feeling of coming at home. I'm getting the feeling of coming backstage. When I pump up, when I pose out in front of 5,000 people, I get the same feeling. So I'm coming day and night. I mean it's terrific, right.

Speaker 2:

And that's what this cleaning lady said.

Speaker 3:

So the long story short back to her.

Speaker 2:

Wait, her greatest high wasn't with Billy Bob Thornton.

Speaker 3:

No, in fact I was with her at Billy Bob Thornton. But the point I'm making with her was she said, the greatest high I ever had was getting in shape. That I've never been in shape before until you came along, until we started doing this for Tomb Raider, because I'm actually in the best shape of my life, because in 12 weeks she could do 20 chin-ups. Where she first started off she couldn't do seven push-ups right on her knees, and it's with working with my hands and it's being given her the right nutrition as a person.

Speaker 2:

What is, what is she like, and what experiences have you had that you want to share?

Speaker 3:

well, I tell you about angelina. She's a really nice lady. She was only 28 at the time, so she was just a just a baby right now and it was wish she was with billy bob and it was her first tomb raider and you know, and I always remember that I didn't realize that she liked the almond brothers because billy bob, the Allman Brothers and she had the Eat a Peach album tattooed on her arm with Billy Bob underneath it, right.

Speaker 2:

Wait, she had Billy Bob tattooed on her arm.

Speaker 3:

That's right. That's right I always said to myself. I said, you know, I have five children, dash seven that I love very dearly, but I'd run out of space in my body if I put their names on my back. You know what I'm saying. She was very focused but she was also under a lot of stress because she had the relationship with Billy Bob.

Speaker 3:

He didn't really want her to do the movie because she thought she was going to lower her standards and do this kind of movie where you're Like a superhero movie, yeah, yeah, superhero, and you're going to be sold and your Happy Meals at McDonald's out pops Angelina Jolie in a little rubber doll. He thought that was like bringing it down, you know. But the truth was, and this is my own guess he was afraid he was going to lose her because she was going to go from being girl interrupted getting an Oscar that nobody knew about. I didn't even know who she was until I met her and and then and people and I got to hands up the mass. The masses of high school America liked her and loved her and ogled over her because she looked hot in Tomb Raider, right. They didn't know her from Girl Interrupted. They didn't know her acting ability. You know, she's a great actress, she's a great director, she's a great artist.

Speaker 2:

Here's my take on Angelina and a funny Tomb Raider story. So I think Angelina is the real deal. I mean, when she hits the screen or the stage you can't unsee her. To me she makes impact with her presence, her words and her ability to deliver a line like no other. My favorite movies of hers were like Tomb Raider, salt the Tourist and Mr and Mrs Smith, where she and Brad Pitt played these secret agents that actually found out about each other and try to kill each other. And that fight scene you know in their house each other, and that fight scene you know in their house driving back home was like no other, probably the best married fight scene, better than War of the Roses. And I think I think the universe has said the same thing, man. She's nominated and won enough awards to fill a library and I happen to like the movie that she produced and directed, the story about Louis Zamperini, a take on the book Unbroken written by Laura Hildebrand. I think if Josh Salzman was caught by the Japanese soldiers in World War II, his story would be pretty similar to Louis Zamperini's. So here's my Tomb Raider story.

Speaker 2:

Back in 2001, my daughter Dana was just turning seven years old. I had the opportunity to be responsible for her for the day. I'm not sure where my ex went or why I had the responsibility, but I loved it. I ate it up. You know, if I'm not making pancakes and ice cream in the morning, I'm thinking of something else fun we can do. And the movie Tomb Raider had just come out and I thought what a great idea, a woman empowerment movie. Plus, I liked Angelina. So I go to my daughter and I go listen, this movie is great. You're going to love this Laura Croft character.

Speaker 2:

But the movie is rated PG 13 and you can't tell your mom because your mom's a little rulesy and your dad's a little loose on certain things. So I'll take you to the movie. We just can't tell your mom. Plus, you can get all the popcorn, candy, anything you want. She's like let's go. And she was not a big movie person and still to this day she would rather still watch something on TV through a streaming channel than go to the movies. But we went, we had a great time, it was a great movie and I'm like when we leave, like wink, wink, no telling your mom. She's like OK Dad, ok Dad.

Speaker 2:

But three days later her mom confronts me and says why would you take Dana to a PG-13 movie with violence like that? Dana ratted on me, I'm not sure why. Her mom probably said what'd you do with dad? What'd you do with dad? You probably kept asking and Dana was like he took me to Tomb Raider. I didn't want to go. So anyway, I mean, and what can you do? I was defenseless. I always believe, never defend a weak position, and it was a weak position. But I'll tell you what 20 years later, dana goes to a Halloween party dressed as Laura Croftft.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, I hooked her but she had to go general population. So what turns people on? A good looking babe? That's fit. When I tried to train her, she was very focused, but you can see that was in the background and she always went back and forth to LA. She talked about Billie and Billie's our age, by the way, rich. So you know, if I was Googling over her I shouldn't feel bad, because Billie was, that's for sure.

Speaker 2:

And at the same time, no, I thought she was hot. I always thought she was hot she's hot.

Speaker 3:

But she used to say to me sometimes, you know, billy doesn't want my legs too big, and I'm thinking, you know I'm thinking well, I like your legs big, I like them a little bit more pumped up. I don't care about billy, this is what high school america likes. And at one stage she had a um, she had a stuntwoman with her all the time, called eunicehart, who was a really fit lady. She was like six Dan. She died nine times in Titanic as a stuntwoman. She was Angelina's stuntwoman and I said you know, angie, you'd be better off doing some wrestling once in a while.

Speaker 2:

So we wrestled together, sure you did and I demonstrated to Eunice.

Speaker 3:

I let her take the top position and you know the partner wrestling thing. I said and you know the partner wrestling thing. I said we're not going to wrestle up. And I showed her a few moves. And this is what you do you crack down my elbow, you put your hips into yourself, you hook my leg with your leg and you throw your hips into me.

Speaker 2:

You know um, I just did that the other night, that same exact move okay.

Speaker 3:

Well, there you go. I mean, I had a t-shirt that used to say why 10 reasons why wrestlers make better lovers. And it said you know, because they're good at riding time, they know hip-to-hip action, they got great conditioning. You know what the last thing was?

Speaker 2:

What.

Speaker 3:

My girlfriend made me throw it away. The T-shirt, I give it to my son. We'll eat anything. So that was number 10. But back to Angelina. So I'm wrestling with this lady man when I put my hand around her waist.

Speaker 2:

Just as a footnote, josh mentions Eunice. Eunice Huthart was Angelina's stunt double and the winner of Britain's Gladiators in 1994. And here Josh will be talking about how proud he is that he could kick her ass. Way to go, buddy.

Speaker 3:

But I kicked her ass because I don't give a shit if she's, like you know, outstanding, you know, gladiator, contestant, world champion, whatever she was 2000 or 1998 or something like that. Anyway, she was a tough girl from liverpool, but I, you know, I can wrestle, you know, and I'm not gonna let her beat me. But angelina, I thought you know, fuck, you can't fuck this up, right, so she's on top. I didn't want to take her to the bottom, so I thought, okay, so you're trying to break me down, so try to break me down so you're, you're doing the hands and knees thing.

Speaker 2:

Is that the position?

Speaker 3:

yeah, the hands and got it.

Speaker 2:

She's on the side, I got it, I could see it go ahead, yeah yeah, so she so visualize this.

Speaker 3:

But and, uh, so she's on top of me. She's got a little tomb raider outfit on little shorts, on little crop top, of course she does. And boots, boots, you know, like the kind of boots you wear when you're boxing, those kind of boots.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, sure.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so she's on top, you know, and she's driving into me and then she like takes her arm and she just smashed me in the head, right with her form, right.

Speaker 3:

Just like four hours Like a crossface, but crossface, that would get you a penalty point in wrestling. You might even get disqualified for that. Because she almost fucking broke my nose right and I said really quietly, even though I was trying to suck it up, I said you're not allowed to punch people. It's not like what this is. But actually, having said that, when I worked with Scarlett Johansson, I told her that Angelina Jolie wrestled. So she said I'll wrestle. So I wrestled with her a bit too. And I remember telling my son, who was about 18 years old at the time, who's going to be 36 now maybe he was about 16 at the time and I said, hey, I just wrestled with Scarlett Johansson, just like I wrestled with Angelina Jolie.

Speaker 1:

He goes dad, you're a perv. I said I only wrestle women, but I've wrestled women that are a lot bigger and stronger than you. Matter of fact, they're probably smarter than you because you don't have any brains. You're from Manfred's Tannis Sea. All you do is plow the fields and farm in the farm.

Speaker 2:

Is that how you talk? Manfred's Tannis Sea, Mr Lawler, Wait, wait, let's go to Scarlett Johansson now. So you trained Scarlett as well.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, Scarlett was supposed to be in Mission Impossible, one of the Mission Impossible movies, but because she was doing a movie over here with Woody Allen in 2002 or something like that, Anyways, the long story short was they pulled the movie because Tom decided to war the worlds and he got thrown out of this movie studio, Anyway. So they shifted the movie, so she didn't, but she was supposed to be the next pumped-up babe. Yeah, and she was a nice lady, Scarlett. She was a really nice lady. But back to Angelina, I'll tell you a little anecdote with Angelina. I tried to get her to eat food like six times a day right, because I do intermittent fasting time now. But I tried to get her to gain muscle. So she was eating every two hours and she said what can I eat? I said, well, try a tin of mackerel. I just downed one of those. You know, just a tin of mackerel. Just down it. A tin of mackerel, A tin of mackerel.

Speaker 2:

Got it.

Speaker 3:

Okay, yeah, got it. So we're in this Pinewood studios where she's filming Tomb Raider and she's got a little outfit on, and this is obviously not another session not during the session with wrestling but her dad was there at the time, jon.

Speaker 2:

Voight. Now Jon Voight's another one of those actors that just delivers lines unforgettably and he absorbs characters like a body snatcher. If you've never seen Ray Donovan, I think it's on Showtime it's a shame seen Ray Donovan. I think it's on Showtime. It's a shame because John plays Ray's father, mickey Donovan, and he plays the lowest of lowlifes and I mean he pulls it off like no other, so I'd highly recommend it.

Speaker 3:

Who sent me this book from Eli Wiesel and he said he was really happy with the way I was training his daughter. And she said my dad really likes you. And they fell out after that for different reasons which you know something to do with adoption and something to do with her her marriage to Billy Bob.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. Yeah, I didn't know why, but I knew there was some kind of distancing. Yeah, there was a there was a riff.

Speaker 3:

There's probably a riff now because he's a Trump supporter, but anyways. So Angelina was a bit stressed and she had downed her mackerel and I remember saying to to john void. I said you know. I said you know, just before I trained her. I said she was warming up on the bike and I said, I said you know. I said you know, daughters are tough. I'm having a tough time with my daughters right now. I said to him he goes, tell me about it. Yeah, I said tell me about it. So so anyway. So I'm, I have this move where I do with people's inner thighs and I can, I'm strong enough to do it, where you know when you get those machines where you squeeze the pads in on your inner thighs.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, inductor and sure.

Speaker 3:

Yes, the adductor muscle.

Speaker 2:

I do that with my hand.

Speaker 3:

So basically she's with her little outfit on and I'm thinking, fuck, I must be the envy of most people in the world right now. I'm close and personal to Angelina Jolie right now and I'm giving her that exercise and she's really working hard. She works a little too hard or works hard enough, and all of a sudden I hear this little nink come out, little nink, and obviously it was a silent but deadly fart and I was literally Rich, about six inches away from where that thing exited. Now, if you know about farts, if you take the physiological or the physics behind a fart, the particles, the science behind a fart, it's little pieces of crap floating in the air. That's what farts are, buddy. That's like perfume, you know little pieces of liquid floating. So I actually inhaled that fart. Yeah, I literally, because I couldn't stop the exercise.

Speaker 3:

And you didn't want to make her feel embarrassed, right, yeah, but she didn't even say sorry, so there was like a three second delay. After that little, I heard this little wink and uh, three second delay. And all of a sudden, rich. I've had some bad farts, you know when you starve yourself in wrestling and then all of a sudden you sit down to a to a big meal you're trying, you add five pounds in it, like in a few minutes, right, yeah?

Speaker 3:

five pounds. I've seen guys gain like 15 pounds. I mean, mma, guys do that all the time, you know, but we only had, like, obviously, five hours, but so we would fart some bad, you know. I mean people would be farting. I mean nothing worse than a wrestling bus on the way back and everybody's stuffing themselves, jesus christ my eyes are burning you know, it was this part when angelina jolie bless her.

Speaker 3:

I gotta give her credit for this. I mean, everybody thinks she's a babe and everything, but I gotta, it's the fucking smelliest part I've ever smelled in my life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I'm it tends to drop her stock price down.

Speaker 3:

When that happens, you know you don't look at her the same way but but when people say, oh man, you were really up close, everybody said to me. Every note says wow, you trained angela john. All I can think about is that fucking fart man. All I can and all I can think about, all I can think about is the fact that if you did an autopsy on josh right now, you know they cut me open. I'm sure there's a little bit of angina DNA. You know they can find like stuff.

Speaker 2:

Oh, her fecal matter would be somewhere in your nasal cavity or something like that In your sinuses.

Speaker 3:

I just did her fart, man. I'm walking around with little bits of her shit in me every day of my life.

Speaker 2:

That's intimate, that is very intimate.

Speaker 3:

As we know, when people say, hey, wow, that's really cool, they don't know the bad stuff, do they Rich? They don't know the tough stuff. They think it's all. Hey, you're just flying around the world, aren't you? Well, you're having to take a fart or two. You know what I'm saying? Or stick your finger in somebody's asshole.

Speaker 2:

Why did you get all weird when I put my finger up your ass?

Speaker 3:

Why did you put your finger in my ass? So all right, so let's let me this is.

Speaker 2:

This is much better than I'd expected, and I expected big, but this is colossal. Let's talk, you and I. The last time we spoke, you shared a Kate Winslet story.

Speaker 3:

When you're I trained Kate for Titanic and when you're a coach, and you're, you know that. You know that yoga guy, that indian guy that invented bikram yoga.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah. Then he fucked up and he had all these sexual harassment issues. Yeah, I know him well.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you are in the position as a fitness guy. That's kind of this person's nervous about their, their, their movie. You know, and you know kate in her case, this titanic put her on the map. You know, it was a big thing, man. You know, she's this little girl from redding, she's 23 years old and obviously people get a fix on you a little bit, yeah, because you're the guy that's getting in shape for this movie and you also become their rock and yours so they get crushed.

Speaker 2:

You get a little crush right yeah, they get a little crush, yeah, okay so.

Speaker 3:

So she, she's a crush and I was with this lady that was rebound relationship lady. It was a crazy Irish gypsy and she was pretty sexy. But I went from in my marriage from feeling like I was a priest at a convent someplace up in the woods in flipping outer Mongolia or something like that, to like a stuntman at an x-rated movie, right. But with that um, you get a lot of jealousy, you know. So when people are kind of like that, if you don't have, you know, I don't know if you don't show them that kind of affection, they feel, you know slight it was. He was the only woman that ever said to me you know I haven't had an orgasm a couple days. I said, look around this mall, I bet you there's a lot of people that haven't had an orgasm a couple of days. You know, you know it was that kind of thing.

Speaker 2:

And well, that was more sympathy than empathy. I think empathy would have been like yeah, I know how you feel and I haven't either, and I have an idea.

Speaker 3:

The trouble is I did and and, anyways, but having said that, so she was quite jealous and my ex wasn't jealous. I mean, when I was with my ex the marriage wasn't good. I had five kids. You know, like a talking head song. You know like you may find yourself in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife. What am I doing here? Kind of thing.

Speaker 1:

You may find yourself living in a shotgun shack and you may find yourself in another part of the world and you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile. You may find yourself in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife and you may ask yourself well, how did?

Speaker 3:

I get here and I didn't have any sex, you know, and people said, oh, you must be having sex all the time, you should get a TV. I said I got like four TVs actually.

Speaker 2:

So having said that, I got to believe it's over 50 percent of married couples and I'm just pulling this number out of my ass. But I was married for 30 years and I get it and I talk to other people and having kids and managing kids in a household requires so much energy and it's so a diversion from an intimate relationship with another human being that it's probably more than we think. And I only make this observation not only from my own personal experience, but I had firsthand knowledge of Trojan sex and sexuality studies done at the Kinsey Institute at the University of Indiana and I also sold adult toys and learned more about sexual aids for unsatisfied couples than I ever wanted to learn. So it's both my personal and professional opinion 100% Rich.

Speaker 3:

I work with a lot of people, so I hear about that. Back to the guy in California, the Bikram Yoga guy. You got a lot of power in your hands. If you want to run riot, you can run riot. You know what I'm saying. You want to go down in a blaze of glory? You can. You got people that are really susceptible to you. You've got people that are unhappy. You know, like housewives. You know, but I don't, because I don't do that and that's not. You know, I don't want to be seen as the guy. And also, when you work with your hands and the husband's paying for workouts, you want to make like you're molesting their wife. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's probably a good strategy.

Speaker 3:

Probably a good. I love the way you come back. You know the way you say things. Rich is so rewarding, I mean I We've known each other for so long.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but with Kate she kind of started liking me and she wanted to come to this club in Mayfair that I was training. It was a men's club. It was one of these posh clubs where you get your clothes handed to you and the only thing you keep there is yours. You bring in your sneakers, but after a while you keep your sneakers there and they give you a uniform. So the only women that are there are the women that are instructors. So I said, kate, listen, I can't train you. I can't train you because I got you're going to have to pretend you're a potential instructor because I'm the. I would had a 20 hour a week contract there and I organized the staff and the guy that owned the place he was a very big entrepreneur called Mark Burleigh and he wanted everybody to train like Josh did you know, with his hands to make it really unique. You know a fancy club where people get that personal thing.

Speaker 2:

And where is she? Is she from Britain? Is she from England or the United States?

Speaker 3:

Yes, she's from.

Speaker 2:

Reading, which is about 20 miles up the road from where I am, and so she didn't have to fake an accent when she was coming. She did, she was uh, so tell me about that.

Speaker 3:

So she had a fake an accent which was more of a local accent right no, she had a fake, a cincinnati accent, because I said pretend you're american. Okay, nobody knew who kate winslet was. This is before titanic, right, and she's 96 or 97, probably 96, actually 96 who did she know from cincinnati to do an accent like that?

Speaker 3:

well, I just said well, there's my mom's from cincinnati, so they have a kind of nasal accent a little bit. You know, they're a little bit different. So she was Sally from Cincinnati. So Sally from Cincinnati, as Kate Winslet comes to the club and I'm saying this is Sally, she's going to be an instructor here and she was in good enough shape, although she wasn't ripped, but she was in good enough shape. She looked like she could be a fitness trainer, because a lot of fitness trainers don't look totally ripped, they just look healthy, you know. And so I'm training her there, but I'm actually training her as one of her sessions.

Speaker 3:

So, funny enough, they had a barber there. You know, it was that posh. They had a barber there. And the Monday following that, two weeks after that, everybody said hi to her and say oh, cindy looks really nice, she looks really good, she's really cool, she's funny, you know, because kate's quite a bubbly lady. I mean she's, you know, she's, that's why she's kate winslet. And they said we really want her there and anyways. So she went to the can film film festival for to be with ken browner sir kenneth browner, now, um, and she. They were doing the phil's. First film was hamlet and and that was a four hour film that Ken did and I trained her for that in 95, 96. Anyways, having said that, the barber sees the paper, the Daily Mail, and she's on the front page. You know, she's on the front page with Ken, this woman that was at the club.

Speaker 2:

The Cincinnati trainer is no longer a Cincinnati trainer.

Speaker 3:

That's right. And he goes. She looks, this lady here, kate Winslet, looks just like Cindy that was here last week, or Sally. And I said, well, you know all those blondes, they look alike. He goes, yeah, I guess they do, yeah, and anyways, so we got done with that. But it was quite funny because she used to call me up at my cottage in western Massachusetts. My mom used to answer the phone and say, and my mom would yell at me, it's Kate Winslet on the phone, it's Kate Winslet. And I said, no, mom, it's Kate Winslet on the phone, winslet Winslet. And she would tell me her stories because she was in Mexico filming and she was. They filmed, jim Cameron had them film in this kind of very cold water to make it look real. When they did all the flood scenes there, right? So when they did all the flood scenes there, right so everybody had chest infections, everybody got cold. So she's telling me all these things.

Speaker 3:

Kate, you know, obviously wanted more than just you know, obviously you know which is normal. You know things happen, you know. And so I got a little bit close to her. But I met this lady at the club while she was in Mexico and this lady was. We had a relationship for 15 years together. Corin Curtis is her name and she's a really lovely lady and anyways, she was an instructor at the club. That was brought there because I was training there and she wanted to learn from me. But she was having another relationship. Anyways, we started going out and she was a divorcee too and we were both the same age. So Kate calls me up from Mexico. She's coming back. She had left for Mexico. We were pretty close, you know. She probably thought there was more stuff going on than there was.

Speaker 2:

Anyways, she was hoping yeah, right, so she was hoping. Yeah, she was hoping and she saw your relationship a little deeper than you did.

Speaker 3:

That's right, and she also a little deeper than I did. That's very well. I, that's right, and she also a little deeper than I did. That's very well-prepared. I'm talking to my therapist now. Thank you for this. With Kate, I thought, because I listened to her stuff while she was in Mexico and she would talk to me every day, she would call me every day and I thought you know, we're going to be buddies, whatever happens, we're going to stay buddies. So I go out with this girl, this woman, corin, who's 40. I'm 40 at the time, so it was a few years back.

Speaker 2:

We're talking 25 years, and how much younger was Kate than you?

Speaker 3:

Kate was 23.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I got it 17 years. Okay, got it yeah 17 years yeah.

Speaker 3:

But you know I mean, if you think it bigger gap. Well, I read the book about Jerry Lee Lewis and I realized he married his 13-year-old cousin. So I thought I was in a plus and I was present there until she was 15. So I thought what the fuck? That's better than that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah right, If you want to compare it to that, it's OK.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's okay for them. But but, having said that, so yeah, so Kate calls me up one time and I said, hey, kate, I just gonna tell you I really met this lady. You know, she's really cool, you know. And I thought she's gonna say, hey, that's great, josh can't wait to come back and meet her while I go out for a drink. And you know, and she went oh, I'm so happy for you, I'm so happy. That sounds so great. Yeah, she's got kids and I got kids, and she's 40. I'm 40. She's been through a divorce. She's been through a really weird relationship post her divorce and I've been through one. We have a lot of things in common. And she goes I'm so happy for you, oh, that's great. I said well, listen, we'll see you soon. It's fine, I'm fine. Trust me, she's not fine.

Speaker 5:

Do whatever you want. It's a trap, people. Your woman telling you these words means that you should already know that she's against what you want and she's putting you to test Not mad. She's very furious actually if she tells you that she's not that mad. Do I really look fat? This is not the question to answer. Honestly. I forgive you. Well, it's not that we don't usually forgive, but sometimes we don't want the fight. We can eat anywhere you want. She's definitely going to object to your choices of anywhere, Nothing. If you ask your woman what's making her upset and she says nothing, don't leave it at that. Everything is wrong and you ought to know about it. Next time you find your woman mad at you for doing something she said she can go ahead and do remember that women are not that complicated.

Speaker 2:

That was it. Oh, that was woman talk. Woman talk things like okay you get things, like, okay, you're in the doghouse. So thank you for taking an hour out of your busy schedule. I know you're like you're working this morning, you're going to be working later and I really appreciate it. I really do, rich.

Speaker 3:

I got to tell you something. I love this and to me this is you know that you talk about getting rid of stuff like the guy in the Green Mile. Yeah, coffee Talking to you, talking to you, gets rid of everything and brings everything in. That's the good stuff. So thank you for your time, man.

Speaker 2:

All right, buddy, listen, let's do this again. We'll coordinate and we'll do it again. I'll come up with some more names and we'll get into some deep stories again. So, angelina, john Voight and Kate Winslet, you're all top of your game and we mean nothing but high praise and respect in the stories that we told. You've been listening to Tales from the First Tee. I'm your host, rich Easton, recording from beautiful Charleston, south Carolina. Talk to you soon.