Tales from the first tee
Stories about my life experiences and others as I work at one of the premier golf clubs in Charleston, SC. Interviews with golfers around the world that have one thing in common...the pursuit of excellence on a golf course and everything else that happens along the way.
Tales from the first tee
When Golf Isn't Stressful Enough: Tales of Ego, Bets, and $1 Walmart Balls
Journey into the mind of a passionate golfer as Rich Easton delivers an energetic analysis of the upcoming Ryder Cup showdown at Bethpage, New York. With razor-sharp insight, Rich breaks down Team USA's three critical advantages—the raucous New York crowd, Keegan Bradley's all-star coaching staff, and a roster brimming with talent. But don't mistake his patriotism for blind confidence; Rich's detailed assessment of Europe's formidable lineup reveals why this contest will likely come down to Sunday singles.
Beyond golf strategy, Rich explores the psychology behind "pick me" behavior—from elementary school hand-raising to self-nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. His witty commentary on this desperate need for validation cuts through the noise, revealing the juvenile nature of attention-seeking even at the highest levels of achievement.
The episode takes a humorous turn as Rich recounts tales from the golf course, including the absurdly entertaining "Striker Ball" challenge where players gamble with $1 Walmart balls, and the universal frustration of cart-driving "encroachers" who break golf's sacred etiquette. His story about a woman confronting the golf shop about a car-denting errant drive leads to an unexpectedly educational conclusion about liability on the course.
Whether you're analyzing your Ryder Cup predictions, contemplating human nature, or simply looking for entertaining golf stories, this episode delivers with Rich's signature blend of expertise, humor, and straight-shooting commentary. Listen now and join the conversation about golf's biggest team event and the fascinating characters who populate the game we love.
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you're tuned into another episode of tales from the first tee. I'm rich easton telling tales from beautiful charleston, south carolina. Hey kids, guess who's campaigning for the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize? I'll get to that after a few golf stories, but doesn't it seem strange that anyone worthy of the distinction of a Nobel laureate would be clamoring to win it, to put it on their trophy case. Anyway, let's talk about the upcoming Ryder Cup. The Ryder Cup teams are now official, so why do I feel a trace of angst?
Speaker 2:I don't feel so good.
Speaker 1:You know, with the exception of Oakland Hills in 1993, most every US Ryder Cup team has won on US soil. Our current 12-man team was either born after 1993 or were in diapers during that horrible defeat, so it's not something they watched as they started competing in golf. But that being the case, I'm certain the media will remind them and position those aha questions just to look for those viral soundbites. You know so. The US losing the Ryder Cup on US soil? It's not impossible, and that theme can be cleverly implanted in the brains of Team Europe with good coaching and good teamwork which, by the way, is a constant in European teams on the Ryder Cup. So Keegan Bradley, our 2025 Ryder Cup captain, has a big job Manifest a win for the US, and maybe that's why he didn't pick himself. The last foreign war lost on US soil was the War of 1812, if we don't count the 1993 Ryder Cup. Keegan's job is to assure this upcoming Gulf War is won by the US team in Bethpage, new York. Let's look at what Keegan has in his favor. Basically, I sum it up with three things Location, coaching and players. The battle is being fought in Long Island, new York, and if you've ever been to a Yankees game, mets, rangers, islanders, jets or a Giants game. You know the unbridled enthusiasm that the area brings to a sporting event. Now there will be tens of thousands of fans there. Not all US fans will be New Yorkers, but they will certainly be heard by every single golfer and have an effect on the outcome of the match. Now some of the golfers will use it as a proving stick like I can do this, no matter what you say. Others will succumb to the sound of the opposition and it'll nestle in their brains like an airwig. Yeah, so make no mistake about it. Playing any Ryder Cup event in any city on US soil is an advantage for the US Ryder Cup team. Playing in Bethpage, long Island Big fucking advantage, ba-ba-boo-ee.
Speaker 1:I think the second important thing US has in their favor after location is coaching. Keegan has a strong co-captain bench to help organize, monitor, motivate and select the optimum two-man teams for each match. Jim Furyk, considerable coaching expertise, also been in the Ryder Cup. Webb Simpson, great player, gets along with the players. Brant Snedeker he's been a Ryder Cup player and he's won. Kevin Kistner, great with players, great commentator. I think he knows how to motivate people. And Gary Woodland, who just beat a fight with cancer and almost made the top 30 coming into Eastlake. Great motivational figure. They all bring something to the party to guide, motivate or counsel Keegan on best pairings and matchups. Now Tiger Woods, conspicuous by his absence, has also taken a consulting role off the course with Keegan and, of course, michael Jordan will likely make his presence known in the team room and on the course.
Speaker 1:And of course, it comes down to Keegan Arguably one of the top 10 golfers in 2025, has a positive, can-do attitude that re-energized his own game this year and can have a positive effect on his players. And, like anything, that man has a chip on his shoulder because he wasn't chosen to play in Rome, so he's got a debt to settle, yeah, so the third thing that the US team has in favor are their golfers. First, the top six that earn their way onto the team Scotie. This guy has won so many times. He is a machine. Jj Spahn came out of nowhere for me and every time I see him tee it up, I just have a sense this guy's going to win Shoffley, henley, english and, of course, dechambeau, one of the two live tour players that will be playing at the Ryder Cup, and he is clearly a fan favorite and the captain's picks leave few question marks Thomas, fiery competitor Morikawa, consistent Top three top tens. Ben Griffin, young, with something to prove, 10 top 10 finishes this year. Cantley as long as he somehow consolidates his marching and his 50-second one-minute setup before he hits, that could put his competitors actually on edge, because he's taking too much time.
Speaker 1:Burns, lots of top tens. And Cameron Young Now he could go low if he doesn't get down on himself. Keegan could have selected Corey Connors, wyndham Clark or Chris Goderup, the guy I've been following, probably my favorite. I would have liked to have seen him instead of Cameron Young, but you know, at the end of the day, keegan knows these players. He's out there all the time he's competing against him. He sees them all the time. He has a sense of what guys match up together. Yeah, so I felt his six picks displayed the best performance under pressure in major championships, with strong putting and strong match play skills. And, as important as that, it's the chemistry they have with the other golfers that he sees. He knows how to pair them up. So do his co-captains. I mean, those are the top three things Keegan has in his favor Location, coaches and players. So why the angst, you might ask.
Speaker 1:Have you seen the European team this year? First, the captain and co-captains, luke Donald. He's leading his team for the second consecutive time. He won in Rome 16.5 to 11.5. That is a trouncing. So he knows how to win. He knows how to motivate. He knows how to select players. His co-captains Bjorn Norin, molinari brothers and Alathabal all winners and previous co-captains. So they know how to get it done. They know how to motivate their people. They know how to motivate and pair a disparate group of golfers from various countries.
Speaker 1:Who. Are they modeling themselves after david or goliath? From the look at their team, I think they're thinking we are Goliath with our breadth of talent and desire to win. They've assembled the most visible team from Europe that I can remember. What I'm saying is I have seen all of these golfers play this year and I've watched them win. I've watched them compete. These guys can play. Malcolm Roy is going to be their undisputable on-course motivator. He can get a crowd going and he knows how to win.
Speaker 1:In Ryder Cups McIntyre, fiery Fleetwood you saw what he just did, winning the Tour Championship. Rose, always in the hunt. Huygaard can't say much about him. Hatton, this guy is so fiery. I mean I could see he and Rahm going out together in pairing because they're both fiery competitors. Lowry McIlroy's best friend You're going to see the two of them in pairings.
Speaker 1:Straka, great golfer. Hovland, local favorite. Oberg, from Sweden, incredible talent. And of course, matt Fitzpatrick, who has basically noted every single shot he's made since he was four years old and he goes back and references them. Those are the most likely 12 European golfers to give the US team a run for their money. Now don't get me wrong. I'll be wearing my red, white and blue from Friday through Sunday. Maybe not a red baseball cap, but you know what I mean. As I've said, the US team has three things in its favor to win in Bethpage. I just don't think the European team gives two shits about those three things. My prediction it's going to come down to Sunday singles. One team member will make a putt heard around the world to win the Ryder Cup. Me, me, me, pick me Ball. Ball, give me the ball. I want the ball. Give me the ball.
Speaker 3:I would like the ball, please. Have you ever met someone whose entire personality was just trying to gain the approval of others, oftentimes the opposite sex? Someone with no real convictions, no goals, no genuine interest, just parroting whatever they think will get them the most approval? Like the performative male, for example, who calls other men trash just to impress women? I'm not like other guys. Or maybe you're acting like an emotionally evolved soft boy or hypermasculine gym bro, if it's not who you actually are, if it is just a performance to be chosen, it's called pick me behavior remember when you were in early elementary school and the teacher wanted a volunteer for something fun, or two captains were picking sides for a sports scrimmage and you desperately wanted to be picked.
Speaker 1:You couldn't contain yourself. You raised your hand and sometimes if it was something you really wanted, you might yell pick me pick me.
Speaker 1:Some of my shy or introverted listeners, maybe military brats that were laboriously relocated too many times to count. On one hand, they can't relate, because they didn't want to stand out. They were too embarrassed to call attention to themselves. Therefore, they watched the pygmies monopolize the attention, and often the pygmies would get picked first. It appeared that they wanted it more than the wallflowers, so it made it easy for teachers and captains to select them first. Yelling me, me, pick me is a very juvenile attention-getting behavior reserved for the unformed brain. The fully formed brain, non-regressive brain, knows that if there's picking to be done, it's on the picker, or the pickers to know enough about their selections. I think the only exception to this norm are the shameless pandering of Academy Award winners and their studios by hosting these special screenings and private events, press tours, hiring campaign strategists and hunkering down in the LA basin the month before the voting begins so they could hobnob with the award voters. Okay, maybe campaigning for president is another example of shameless self-promotion, although, with our fearless commander-in-chief, mudslinging, slander, character, assassination, libel and vilification were his primary tactics, leaving little room for why choose me? Which brings me back to this topic Me, me, me, pick me for the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 1:For the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize, does it seem off-putting to you that, after superficial efforts posing as peace talks, leaders of Pakistan, israel and Cambodia made mention of nominating Donald Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize?
Speaker 1:Notwithstanding Trump's thinly veiled attempts to end the Russia-Ukraine conflict, he's often nominated himself to get the Nobel Peace Prize. To be fair to him, I don't know if it's him initiating these soundbites or if it's in reaction to the media fishing looking for that aha soundbite, but you know, in my lifetime I don't recall the leader of the free world openly campaigning for an award, an award that goes through an arduous process before nomination. Only qualified nominators as defined by the Noble Foundation can nominate a valid candidate. There are 10 categories of qualified nominators. Some are like members of the International Board of Women's International League for Peace and Freedom Probably another reason Trump doesn't want the Epstein files released. Another one of the 10 nominator groups are university professors and associate professors, certainly freezing federal grants at some of the universities, probably not in his nomination best interest. Another one of the 10 groups persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize don't think he's going to get Obama's vote and the nomination deadline was back in January 31st 2025. Man that was over 240 days ago.
Speaker 1:Do you know there are currently 244 individuals nominated and all their names, except the winner, are held in confidence for 50 years. That means whoever doesn't win really doesn't know if they were nominated. I'm not sure if any of the world leaders that were coerced I mean bullied, I mean pressured into nominating Donald for a Nobel Peace Prize are officially in the nominating position. Not to come off sardonic, but I often wonder if there's a way to follow the money or favors that are a result of kissing the royal ring and nominating our fearless leader for a Nobel Peace Prize. I know this If anyone in Trump's cabinet meetings avoid overtly complimenting or praising the great one, they won't be in the cabinet for long. What happens to our diplomatic relations with Norway if our commander in chief is passed up for the Nobel Peace Prize while he's still in office? Well, likely, magnus Carlsen, the great chess player, will be banned from competing in chess on US soil and Victor Hovland will be banished to the live tour. Well, frankly, with their signing bonuses, that might not be an unwise move. Hey, I know one person that will be doing the Holland Kast if Trump is passed over. That would be our own John Gunderson, the first US ambassador to Ukraine, vietnam vet and diplomat extraordinaire with a Norwegian heritage Although he would probably say as a diplomat I can see both sides He'll say that while he's doing the Hollen Kast dance Striker ball when golf is just not stressful enough.
Speaker 1:When my golf game is off, I rarely look to add more pressure. Fixing bad golf does not resemble what it takes to make a diamond, and that is pressure. But if your ego thinks that suggesting a skins game that could win or lose you a steak dinner is the way to self-motivate yourself, then we could be friends. I recently came off the IR, the INJ, the DTD, the out the what the fuck is with my meniscus on my lead leg. I'm fairly religious about PT stretching and sometimes swimming to strengthen my leg, but one thing that doesn't seem to help is the continuous repeated golf move. The torque, the twisting weight transferred to my meniscus torn lead leg doesn't help. That being said, most every golf course or golf range calls my name and taunts me to play and of course my inner ego-driven Rich says Rich, come on, that injury is in your head.
Speaker 1:Get to the practice area where all the magic happens. Get in a money game to get your competitive juices flowing. So after two weeks of not swinging a golf club, I decide to accept an invite to play 18 holes. The tee time wasn't until midday so I had ample enough time to stretch, go hit the range, hit a few balls and then show up for the official tee time and then show up for the official tee time. I arrive at the first tee with hope and a few good swing thoughts that I got at the range. This will give me enough confidence to enter into a friendly game.
Speaker 1:I get to the first tee and see Cloudy Graves and Mike Kay, who have been on their games recently and trending low. What a perfect opportunity to stay focused and let my ego drive the bus. Before we tee off, cloudy asks you want to play for something or just make this a friendly? Basically, a friendly is you go out, you try and improve your game. You have shits and giggles. You're still trying to play well, but it's not serious, there's no moolah on the line.
Speaker 1:I immediately, without hesitation, say skins, game, buck, a hole. I figure if I win all 18 skins, it motivates me to hit the New York butcher and buy myself a juicy ribeye. Compliments of my buddies, I mean cast iron skillet seared with garlic, butter, rosemary and thyme to finish it off. This is what I'm thinking when I yell that out. This is what I could win, and it'll be a great feeling.
Speaker 1:No meniscus tear is going to get in my way, except for one thing Cloudy decides to play out of his ass that day, posting, I think, maybe a 75 or less, and skunked Mike and I for 15 skins each. That's right. We didn't win a skin all day and if not for Mike tying cloudy on the last three holes, it would have been $18 each. I can't recall in modern times not winning a skin or two against these guys, or any guys for that matter. Cloudy played great, mike K kept us in it until the dam broke and my lab putter now is in probation for the unseeable future Couldn't make a putt, perhaps letting my ego throw me into a money game before my body, mind and soul were connected.
Speaker 1:That's on me, you would think. After decades of playing and dealing with sports injuries, I'd know better. Not necessarily. Which brings me to the heading of this segment Striker ball, when golf is not enough stress. So I'm doing my weekly gig at the first tee. And who comes up to play in the morning? Like every Friday morning I see 5G, formerly known as Wi-Fi. But he doesn't like Wi-Fi because that's not his business, so he's now 5G. He comes to the tee box with Kris Kringle and it's their morning friendly Friday morning match head to head. Is it friendly? I don't know. They seem to be friends, but there's always money passing hands back and forth. Kringle is starting to find his game for the last few months. Maybe it's driven by his newfound free time, which usually drives handicaps lower.
Speaker 1:Kringle pulls out this new golf ball and says hey, you ever see a striker ball? He shows me the emblem on the ball, striker, and the number. Every ball has a number. This number was kind of off to the side bottom, almost like the printing press just said fuck it, we're just going to put this number anywhere on the ball. So he shows me the striker ball. Now the striker ball is a ball sold at walmart for 12.93 a dozen. The parent company, zero friction taunts their ball as a balance between speed and accuracy, with an alignment stripe to aid putting precision.
Speaker 1:Don't you love marketing magic wands? For $1.08 per ball, it is the cheapest ball on the market, new out of the box, 5g and Kringle both found them on the golf course a few days ago while they were searching for some of their errand drives. So they're pulling these balls out and they say, hey, why don't we come out and play a new game tomorrow? Let's play this game where we both have two striker balls. They both show them to me and they all have different numbers and they say, okay, this is how we start the game. We start the game, you have to play one of these two balls Until you lose one. Then you have to play the other one At the end of 18, when you putt out. For every striker ball and there are two of them that you have left the other guy owes you five dollars. So, for instance, if 5G ends the game with two striker balls and Kringle has none, kringle owes him $10 plus whatever the bet was for the day. So they just don't play striker ball, they play their own.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it's 5-5-5. I don't know what game they play, but I always see, when they come off of 18 and drive by, somebody's pulling out a satchel full of a lot of money and either opening it and saying feed me, which is 5G's move, or Kringle will open up his satchel and say, goddammit, take it, not a good day. So I see the two of them as they're passing between the 12th and 13th grain and they're kind enough, every time they pass they'll stop, We'll have a little chat. Plus, the tee box is full so they can't go there anyway. So they're kind of stuck talking to me and I'm like, hey, what happened? And I see 5G has two balls in his hand Two striker balls Kringle none. His hand two striker balls Kringle none.
Speaker 1:And you know I would have figured that, because these are the shittiest balls in the world and probably hard to hit, that 5G would have basically taken him out of his pocket after the second hole right by the marsh and thrown them in and said okay, I'm down 10., let me play my Pro B1. And he would have figured, somehow Kringle would have lost one or two during the match and it probably wouldn't cost him much of anything. But the key thing is that he's not playing with a shitty ball. And you know the funny thing is. So I ask 5G because I'm thinking about this and I'm like I'm surprised you still have both balls and you're playing with them. And he's like, yeah, I'm not playing badly. Also, I just don't want to give up the ten dollars.
Speaker 1:Now I didn't want to say that 5G is tight-fisted, parsimonious, stingy, cheap, frugal, curmudgeonly or chintzy. 5g is proud of his control of a dollar and no description of his cheese pairing upsets him. He owns it with a badge of honor. He holds out both strikers and say the ball doesn't matter, it's the ball striker. See what I did there. At the end of the match they come by and I could see that Kringle is a little beside himself. He's like yeah, not my best day. And there is 5G formerly Wi-Fi holding up one striker ball. So not only does he win the match and all the money he gets $5 for the striker ball. Now do you think he kept it? Do you think he kept it so he could play with it again? Fuck, no, he gives it to me and says get this piece of shit out of here. Striker ball, you ought to try it. And for the final segment, the encroachers and the errant shot.
Speaker 1:I find that the moderate peace and quiet from a golf adventure feeds my soul. I say moderate because unless you're playing a course surrounded by uninhabited nature, there are some ambient sounds that could interrupt the sounds of nature, or that guy that always talks at the wrong time, but for the most part I love the sounds of a golf course. Golf seemingly takes as much concentration as the guy who diffuses a bomb. The last thing you need is an unplanned sound to rattle your concentration. That's typically when someone or a group of someone's decides to pull their golf carts right up to the tee box where you and your group are teeing off.
Speaker 1:You could be in the middle of a backswing or a pre-shot routine and the guys pulling up in the cart behind you are thinking one thing If it's the first tee and they're in line and don't want to miss their tee time, they are thinking I got to get to this tee box on the exact time because this is the time that I own and I don't want anybody to jump in front of me.
Speaker 1:If it's mid-round and they pull up behind you, it's their way of telling you that we are playing too slow and hurry the fuck up so they could play at their pace. Or they're oblivious to the etiquette of golf and think that once you putt out on the last screen, you have to drive your cart all the way up to the next tee box, irregardless of other golfers already there trying to focus on their tee shots To these encroachers. I respect that there are no signs on a golf course that inform golfers where to stop their carts when others are in front of them hitting approach shots, or on a tee box. They're no science but, come on man, it's common sense. It falls under one of those kindergarten golden rules, not the ones where you can't touch people in the private parts.
Speaker 2:These are my private parts. My private parts. Nobody can see, nobody can touch them, nobody can feel me.
Speaker 1:No, no, it's the one where you treat people how you want to be treated. If you don't like golfers slamming on their brakes and blasting music while you're in the middle of a golf swing, have the courtesy to hang back and hang tight. You'll have your turn to fuck up. The next shot It'll come, but hopefully without the guys behind you blasting battle cries as they encroach upon you. So I'm working the first tee the other day and we had a gaggle of bachelor parties, one which was the last of the 16 players. The last foursome were about to tee off. Behind them there was a group of 16. They didn't know it, they didn't know the bachelor party in front of them. But they're all getting their shit together. They're talking it up, they're creating their bets and razzing each other.
Speaker 1:Hungover is all get out and the first foursome in that gaggle of 16 decides, even though there's another group on the tee box, they're going to pull up right behind them because they want to make sure they get their rightful spot. And look, often when I start a big group, I let all of them line up at the tee box and it's kind of like um airplanes queuing up in the skies over Chicago to land at O'Hare. I mean they basically I let the whole group get up there. They'll raz each other and I typically don't let other golfers do that because they don't know each other.
Speaker 1:People don't like people behind them, unless they're their buddies. Then it's like shits and giggles and let's see if we can affect the guy on the tee box and if he's playing in another foursome let's see if we can get in their head, have him hit a bad shot. But in this incident the last of this other bachelor party was teeing off and I told the other guys the other 16, hey, just hang here. But some of the guys just couldn't help themselves. Sometimes they take matters into their own hands.
Speaker 2:If you gave an, order that Santiago wasn't to be touched, and your orders are always followed. Then why would Santiago be in danger? Why would it be necessary to transfer him off the base? Sometimes men take matters into their own hands. No, sir, you made it clear just a moment ago. So the golfer on the tee box in mid-swing.
Speaker 1:Sometimes men take matters into their own hands. No, sir, you made it clear just a moment ago. So the golfer on the tee box in mid-swing was startled by the breaking cart and launched a drive 230 yards long and 100 yards wide over the trees on the right that guard the main road. He looked back at the crazy taxi driver and his buddy said hey, you know, hit another one. You were distracted as they look back at this next bachelor party. A few minutes later, one of the golfers in the bachelor party asked me to take their picture, a service I provide freely to give them all something to remember, because in four and a half hours, two transfusions, a John Daly and three tequila shots, they're not going to remember shit. So as I'm finishing my photographic masterpiece, I see a lady storming up to the first tee box and she's not in a golf cart. At first I'm thinking did one of these hooligans in the bachelor party forget to tell their wife they're at a batch party in Charleston? She found out about it from the other wives you know that happens Flew to Charleston, tracked him down you know they're probably both using find a friend and now she comes up and she's going to embarrass him in front of his bros. I know I have an active imagination, deeply rooted from hours of mind-numbing TV and movies, but none of that happened. That wasn't the case. This call it 30-something-year-old woman let's call her Rabia walks up to me and says I was driving down the road and a golf ball hit and dented my car. Now I responded with empathy and said God, I'm sorry, but it couldn't be any of these fellows that I just took the picture of because they haven't teed off yet. And then she points down in the fairway 200 yards out what about them? And I tell her hey, look, let me ride up there and check. So I get my golf cart. She's still waiting, thumping her toe, and I go up and I approach the foursome in the middle of the fairway and ask hey, did any of you recall hitting your drives into the street? Immediately they all said nope, not me, not me. They all look at each other, not me, which goes to show the short memory that some have after hitting a mulligan. So I said okay, guys, thanks.
Speaker 1:I returned back to find Rabia still pacing and unconsolable. I told her that the guys in the fairway have no knowledge of hitting the ball near your car. She was unhappy with my answer and stormed into the pro shop to file a complaint. You know, the truth is somebody hit a drive over the trees that protect the neighborhood and they couldn't see it, and that's probably likely the ball that hit the car, which brings up the question of liability. I've researched it and here's the short answer, although I usually don't have a short answer for anything.
Speaker 1:Unless a golfer intentionally aims their drive at a person, place or thing outside the perimeter of a golf course, they should not be held liable and they should not have to pay any damages. The golf course, if designed to protect houses, buildings, streets and people and I think of like trees, fences, those types of things the golf course is usually not liable for errant tee shots. You know, I remember telling a story in an earlier podcast where there was this homeowner that won a lawsuit against a golf course because their house, as the result of unsafe golf course design, was constantly pelted with errant shots from golfers that were trying to cut the corner and hit it over their property. To get home in two, the homeowners actually said when they sent their kids out to play they had to wear bike helmets in case errant balls came in so it wouldn't hit them in the head.
Speaker 1:But here, back at this golf course, in this situation where Rabia's car was hit with an errant tee shot, it falls under the no liability clause, which means the golfer with all good intentions to stripe it down the fairway, maybe interrupted by a guy behind him screeching his golf cart, is not obligated to remedy a loss or harm. Now, if we're on the back nine and these guys were totally blotto for being over-served, well, maybe that's another story. Hey, thanks for staying to the end. You've been listening to another episode of Tales from the First Tee. I'm your host, rich Easton, telling tales from beautiful Charleston, south Carolina. Talk to you soon, thank you.