Axis of Football

Week 11 Recap

November 23, 2022 KOUROSH SAFAVI
Axis of Football
Week 11 Recap
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We are back on the axis of football to talk some week 11 action and what a week it was. Corro Safa alongside Char Port Danish. A lot to get to here. Some unexpected blowouts. A very, very big upset. Some potential upsets, almost upsets that we saw as well this week. Seemingly had it all. There wasn't a theme, just a really cool plethora of stuff that happened. Some potential QB changes in New York. We'll talk about which team might be considering that Mahomes and Kelsey still own la. And a whole lot more to get to Sharp. But before we, we dive into the football stuff sharp, this is a special kind of time of year for me. The World Cup is going on right now. We didn't get to talk about it last week, but you know, different this year in that it's in the kind of winter, late fall, early winter stage because it's in guitar and because of the heat there, they're not able to have it in the summertime. So I'm just, I'm kind of all, it's interesting, I'm, I'm, I'm not in a sensory overload here. I'm trying to follow the World Cup. I've actually got Mexico pulling on in the background as we're talking right now, and then football's happening. I, I just, I adore the World Cup. I think it's the most phenomenal sporting event on our planet. So balancing that with football is interesting. It's gonna be interesting. How have you found it so far? Man? No, I uh, I'm, I'm like you, I love the World Cup. To me it's a better version of the Olympics because there's a lot of events in the Olympics. Really couldn't give rats hairy ass about world Cup, obviously growing up in Germany and playing soccer. And so I have a strong connection to it. And and, you know, just one thing of interest is, is you know, it's despicable by the Qatari government to basically stop the freedom of speech and reporting of of any reporter that's going to display. Protest against the Iranian government. So, which is disgusting to me, but it just, yeah, it just shows you how they are so, well, yeah. Unfortunately, this is kind of, there's definitely an ugly underbelly to world Cup. The World Cup. And from what you just mentioned, char, to some of the labor that it takes to build these stadiums. Oh yeah. I think, I think it proved that Qar did some serious bribing of fi. Oh, well that's been proven. That's, that's, that's beyond the shadow of, I don't understand how they were able to, to keep the World Cup as the, as the host nation after it was proven. They bribed their way to it. But hey, I guess the old saying, money talks. Right, right, right. No, and it's, and it's, look, it's, it's disgusting. And also, not that I'm a big Budweiser fan, but they basically cont Budweiser into promoting it and, and sponsoring. And then at the last second they said, no, nobody can drink beer at the same. Right, right. If, if, if you're gonna do that, then just make your intentions clear from the beginning. Don't, and, and they didn't. They just, it just, it just looked that whole golf region I I, the way did you see today hr, so Saudi Arabia beat Argentina and I, I saw those score. I mean the game was at 4:00 AM for me and 2:00 AM for you. So I didn't, obviously didn't wake up to watch it, but I was like, oh wow, Saudi Arabia. Okay, what a great, I go back and watch the highlight show. Three Argentina goals were called back cuz of off sides. Three. Yeah. Saudis in the Gulf. I mean, I don't know all the money. Look all the money. I've never seen a game where three goals were called back. I mean, that's unbelievable. And, and Credit Saudi, if you watch the game, Saudi's goalie oa, that guy made some incredible saves. I mean, Saudi did play competitive game. But Argentina should have won this game by a couple goals. Look, the World Cup already has come out and said that we wanted France to have an easy route to the championship when the, when the game wasn't when the games were being held in France, they've, they've, I mean, soccer, FIFA's one of the most corrupt, you're talking about corrupt organization worldwide. So it, it's, I I don't, I don't buy it. I, I mean, come on, three. Nobody, it was two of'em by messy. I mean, it was, it was. I never seen that before. It's, it's, it's ridiculous. That's why before you said it, I was gonna, you know, I was gonna talk about how I called bullshit on it and, and, and look as an Iranian, I'm not the biggest fan of Saudi Arabia or the Gulf Arabs. So it just, that just hardens my thought process towards them in general. Yeah. But, you know of course we're rooting for, for team Melody Iran. We hope that, They are able to, to shine a light on what's going on there. They obviously didn't sing the national anthem yesterday and, and did take a knee to just show and so did English team, right? I don't know. I, I'm not sure about England. I, I saw they, they had said they were going to. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, world Cup's a beautiful event and you know, it's beautiful to see the world as corrupt as FIFA is. I love seeing the world come together and seeing the, the mixing of different nations and cultures and languages. The very Yeah, that's, yeah. It, it, it just, it just, you know, FIFA has just with all the, all the controversies and, and, and the corruption charges being proven, not, not just being out there, being proven and being admitted to, yeah. The fact that there's still a viable organization makes me. It's, it, yeah. It's almost, you wish you could have the World Cup without fifa, but yeah, they, you see some kinda antitrust lawsuit against them because Come on, this is, this is ridiculous. Be that as amazing. Look, I think we, yeah, we get the next one here in North America. Actually Dallas is one of the host cities, so I'm looking forward. There you go. There you go. Be good. But, but yeah, no, so that, that, that's happening. Like I said, I've got Little Mexico po. In the background here. But Char let's let, let's get, see, I dunno, you've seen these set of commercials where David Beckham and PE Manning argue about what soccer should be called. Beckham says it's football, Manning says it's soccer, this and that. So let's, let's get to the real football, what we call football here in the States. And that would be the pigskin. And sure, let's kick it off with, you know to me the shock of the week, but also of course, the highlight of my week. And that would. The Dallas Cowboys going into the Twin Cities in Minnesota and absolutely annihilating the Vikings. And there's really no other way to say it. I mean, this, this was the most dominant performance from the Cowboys I've seen in a long time. They won this game show 40 to three. Justin Jefferson helped to just three catches for 33 yards. Trayvon day's doing a phenomenal job on. And the cowboys, I mean, all three phases of the game just dominating. Michael Parsons on the opening series for Minnesota. Gets a strip sack, set the tone for the Cowboys. And this was just, I mean, I can't, I said three phases short, I mean, Dak, 22 of 25, 2 86, a couple tds Tony Poll had 189 All-purpose. Two touchdowns, including a 68 yarder from Jack Prescott. A Zeke got on the end zone twice. I mean, Brett Maher made a 60 yard fill goal twice, and another two from 50 plus the defense, seven Sacks. I mean, this was, the Cowboys are a storied franchise. This was the most lopsided road victory in the history of the Dallas Cowboys. That's saying something, and again, look, we, we just, we talked about Minnesota coming off that amazing win. We said Vegas had the Cowboys winning. Okay. We could see, see that somewhat, but I don't think anybody saw this result coming. Char, what did you make of this? It was crazy. I remember we were talk, we both picked Minnesota to win and my only concern, and I bet it heavy, I bet I be Minnesota really heavy. And my biggest concern, if you recall, I was saying the only concern I have that this is some kind of a sucker's bed, because the majority of the money, biggest money, the smart money was going with Minnesota. And, you know, Vegas usually knows something. But I don't think they expected this. And, and it started with, you know, the gentleman that you spoke to, the guy that we think the world of is Michael Parsons. He was going against an injured who's the great left tackle from Minnesota Darol. Christian Daw, who's one of Christian de Saw was healthy coming into the game, but midway he got. No, he was he had he, he had he was questionable to play because there, there was some, there was some, something questionable about him. Cause I, I think, I think, I think he got a concussion in the middle of the game or something. But at the after, after that first drive. Yeah. And, and then when he went down, I mean, when he went down Kirk Cousins, I mean, Not that I think he's a world beat, but nobody, nobody can just sit there and just get hammered. How many sacks were there by the Dallas? That seven sacks were the cowboys? Yeah. And beyond the sack. Just, I mean, they just got, they just got absolutely punched in the mouth. And you know what, it remind me of corrosion. Remember the. The Super Bowl between the Colts and the Seahawks. I mean the Broncos and the Seahawks. Yeah. Where the Broncos just got thinking of the witch end. Yeah. Yeah. The, the first play of the game or the very first series of the, it was, it was a safety, it was a high snap over Manning's head. And it was a big boy what's his name? That was playing up until a few years ago. Cam Chancellor, cam Chancellor had Michael Thomas so hard. Like he just set the tone. Yeah. And from then from there it was just, and look, football's a game of emotion and football's a game of momentum. And, and when shit starts going bad just, it, just, the probability of other cop going bad is, is just incredible. So the thing, the thing is short, like, like the cowboys turn that mic, a parson strip sack into a field goal. Okay? So the Vikings play good d and the Vikings drove it down. The next, the next possess. Tied at three. Three. Okay. So it's still a game there. It, you know, it's, it's, but then it started to get outta hand. I mean, Dallas, Shar scored on their first seven possessions. They didn't have to punt until four minutes remaining. In the first half, they were eight out of 10 on third downs in the first half. I mean, this was as dominating performance as, as I've seen. Yeah. It was momentum. I mean, and, and, and again, the part that to me was perplexing was coming off that win. I mean, it's not shocking that, okay, Dallas had a tough loss at Green Bay in a game they weren't in control of to what we think is probably, definitely a lesser packers team. They should have won that game. So you knew Dallas was probably gonna come. A sense of urgency. What I didn't see coming was Minnesota off there, not just the biggest win of the season. That win at Buffalo was probably Minnesota's biggest win in a few years as a team and to then be back at home and not get up, get up for that game. Very perplexing to me, and I'm struggling here with this, is that we can say, okay, like obviously this game, it wasn't necessarily. An indication of who the Vikings are. Now part of me sure wishes that I, I had held on my argument one week longer cuz then I could come on and said, you can't. I could've come on and said cowboys, but no. Yes, though you can't even mention it by even mentioning it. You're mentioning it, so no, you're not allowed to mention it No, but look. Minnesota is still, is still a solid team, but I guess Char did, did this result affect, not necessarily your view that Minnesota's for real, but did, did it have any impact on your view of how strong Minnesota actually is? So it's not that they're not a real team, but in terms of like their pecking order in the nfc, was that impacted at all based on how the LOP side of this result was? Yeah, I mean, You can't. You can't. Oh, but remember I told you, I said I have him as number three in the nfc. So I don't, I mean, how can you not have it affect you? But I mean, they're still the same team that I thought they were. They're the, you know, I was saying they're the third best team in the nfc. Now you can't help but to say Dallas is ahead of them cuz Dallas just came and punched them in the mouth at home. Yeah. Now I, I don't think, I don't think Dallas is clearcut that much better than them. Maybe Dallas just matches up really well against them. But also, look, Christian j are going out is a, is a huge, it's a huge, huge. Huge factor. But I mean that, but that first trip track was on Christian de saw. I mean, well, no, it doesn't mean that he's not gonna, doesn't mean that he's not gonna get beat the guy, the guy, a phenomenal left tackle. Are you saying you think the Minnesota Vikings would've won that game if de saw stayed in? No, no, I I, I don't, but I don't think it would've been that bad because Minnesota didn't have a chance to score. Minnesota didn't have a chance to score, and I would like to see, I would like to see Minnesota play with, with their, you know, o line in, in, but, but sure. I mean, like, to be fair too, like that left tackle position wasn't the only spot of the lion that the Dallas Cowboys were getting pressure from. I mean, they got interior pressure, they got pressure from the right. Looking corners, we come forever. We always talk about when you have to turn, what do you do when you have a weakness that left tackle, you turn protect to'em and that leaves pressure points at other parts of the defense that that defenses can take advantage of. That's, I mean, come on, that's football 1 0 1. But in fact, I mean, sure there was there, I don't, I don't remember who the backup tackle that came in for Darol was, but like they even had like a tight in and a back. Yeah. Chi. Chipping like DeMarcus Lawrence, and they still couldn't, they still couldn't block him. Right. So that's, so that's, I mean, you're making my point for me of, of, of course it affected the rest of the offense, but I mean, like, like I think we can both agree that even if Darris all finishes that game, It's still pretty likely Dallas wins. Is it 40 to three? We'll never know, but like Sure. You know, like, yeah, but hold on now let me finish it. It is the game, the way it turned out. Again, this isn't Madden. Football players are affected when their defense goes out there against a really tough, a really tough offense and sees that it's three and out, three and out three and out, three and out, and then the, and then the cowboys are coming in and converting on some of those certain goals and, and stuff like that. It wears them out. Yeah, it, you're right. Change the it, it changes the complexion of the game and you don't know, I mean, who knows? Would I bet that that Christian thereof being there to Vikings are gonna win. No, but would it shock me? Absolutely not. I've seen, I've seen games like this, I've been part of games where we go and blow a team by 45 points and then we play'em again, and we, we, it it ends up being a fricking drag out fist fight. So it, it, yeah. No, for sure. But, but sure. Something we did talk about in general coming into this game too, is like the Cowboys have had the Vikings. The past several times. Right. In Minnesota as well. So it's your point, they probably just match up. Well, no. Now none of those games folded out like this. Shark did. Did the nature in which the Cowboys won this game at all impact how you view Dallas? Do you, do you take them a little more seriously as a contender in the nfc or are they kind of the same place they were before? No, they, for me, Minnesota and, and Dallas swap places. That's it. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I mean, and simply for the fact that, simply for the fact that I can see them, that Dallas really matches a well against them. Cause this is the same Dallas team that lost to a hapless Green Bay. Let's, let's not forget that. Yeah. And that's another game of emotions too, right? Where you see that they get up for, and it happens. They, they were at home, they got, they got up for this game. Aaron Rogers kind of always has the cowboys number. You know, so it happens, right? And I think that you could even, maybe even say that that result. Perhaps like motivated the level of urgency the Cowboys had against Minnesota. Right, right. Cowboys next game. Giants at home on Thanksgiving. Giants coming off a a tough loss against the Detroit that we'll talk about, but Sure. Last bit on the Cowboys here. I mean, if Dallas plays like this and camp like this week in and week out, Give'em the Super Bowl. Give a break. I Come on. But, but, but, but that, but that's, is that what you wanna hear, That's a big if though, right? I guess. Well, yeah. Which Dallas team you think we see the rest of the way? Like, like, is this kind of a term, the corner chat game for them? This is the, no, this is the stop, stop, stop. This is not the Dallas Cowboys news. Oh, I'm asking you. Did I? Why, why tell me that's you. That's not, they had a great, they had a freaking great win. Against the team that they matched up well against and, and literally the flood gates opened up and everything that could have gone wrong for the other team went wrong. And this is not an indication, no, Dallas is not 40 points better than Minnesota. Dallas is probably two, three points, four points better than Minnesota and, and. Come on, let's look, if they had to play again instead of the Cowboys being favorite, one and a half, the cowboys might be favorite. Four, three and a half, not 40. So let's, let's, let's pump the brakes a little bit. But that, but that wasn't the question, though. I'm not saying, I don't think anybody, I, I don't think any team, I think if the bills played, you know, the, the, the Jaguars, they'd be favored by 40. I'm just saying for the Cowboys, could this be like a turning point of the season where you got one game where you put it all together in all three phase. And this is something to build off of. Like you talk about football, this is something to build off of. Huh? But again, this is something to be build off of. If this was week 16 or week 14 maybe. No. That the Cowboys are gonna lose. They're gonna, they're gonna play Philadelphia again. They're gonna get their asses handed to'em, they're gonna lose another. Okay. Okay. They're gonna look, they're gonna, they're gonna play another game in the. In, in the in, in the division that they're gonna lose. So it, it's not like they have like two more games left in the season and now they're gonna build up on it before, before the season is over. This game's gonna be long forgotten unless if you're gonna have to go to Minnesota and play game play a game there. So you think Philadelphia is gonna hand them their ass when they play the second time? Maybe. I'm just saying that just to, just to get on on your nerves, but Phil, Phil will be favored. Yeah, they will be. I mean, yeah. And we'll talk about, you know, Philly, Philly escapes, they, they easily could have lost our seconds. Right. But okay. Yeah. You know what, it's the kind of game where I hope is the turning point for the Cowboys, but you just, you never know, right? You never know what this team, what you're gonna get week and week out. But it's definitely the kind of game where it's okay. This is an eight and one Minnesota team. They just beat what you call the darlings of the nfl Oh God. In the Buffalo Bills And, and they thumped them in their own house like, like, you know, I think that's gotta count for something. But then again, it only counts as one win. And they've gotta come back home now on a short week against the Giants who got majorly upset at home to the Lions and yeah. Am I concerned the Cowboys could overlook this game? Maybe. I hope they don't. Well, I'm sure we're gonna talk about it at drink length in, in two days, but come on, let's move, let's, let's move on. This is not the Cowboys channel. Let's, let's break. I'm tired of the Cowboys. Well, that was my segue. Let's talk about the Giants. The clunker they put up at home Against Destroy. I hope this isn't one you had money on as well. Sharp. I did not. Okay. I mean, this is one I might have put money on if I was a gambler. 31 18 The final score Sharp. The Giants had no answer. For the Lions on defense, the giants were up six three in the first half and it was an Aidan Hutchinson dropped back into coverage interception. The star Rookie Pass Rusher keeps making plays week and week out. It seems like that really helped turn the game for Detroit and from that point on Sure. That that interception on. Detroit went on a 28 to 12, run the rest of the way, and it wasn't running. I mean Jared Goff, very economical. A buck 65, no tds, no picks. 83 Cub rating, efficient game, and it was the Lions run game. Char we're talking about 34 total carries between their backs. Justin Jackson, Jamal Williams, Deandre Swift, even Khali Raymond getting a couple carries this. Was a ground and pound type game of Jamal Williams, three touchdowns on this one. Deandre Smith adding another as well. They had no answers and even though the totally yardage, the lions were able to generate in this game wasn't staggering, it felt like when they needed it most, they were able to put drives together. They capitalized off the two Daniel Jones interceptions and they really limited Saquon Barkley 22 carries yards on, 15 carries for saquon, just one and a half yards per carry average. This was as completed game as I've seen. Detroit this year, and tough break as well. For the, for the Giants start, they lost one of their starting receivers, rookie w Dale Robinson with an ACL in this game. So tough sle for them as they now head to Dallas for Thanksgiving day day tilt. What did you make of the result of this game in Detroit going into New York and just embarrassing them? It's uh, very similar, very similar to a Cowboys Bikings game. This is just a game. The you know, the team matched that well against another one and maybe a team that's better than the record indicated. And and well, in Detroit's case below, average team. So are you not saying the Vikings weren't for real? Are you taking that back? Now? Vikings of, of course, are for real, but they're, I, I told you they're not, they're not in the level of Philadelphia or, or. Or San Francisco. How many, I mean, like, how many times did I say that to you? I said, they're the third best team in the nfc. They're gonna get, I said they have a legitimate chance of making it to the NFC NFC Game Championship game. Yeah. Yeah. Well that hasn't, that hasn't changed Kuru. I think. Yeah, you're right at this point with the nfc, no, it hasn't changed. And anyways, but no, this is the same thing. This just happened. I mean, the flood gates opened up and, and, and, you know, the giants were caught. Na, And maybe the giants were feeling themselves a little bit and, and, you know, Detroit came in and punched'em in mouth. That's, that's, you know, that's all it was. There's really nothing to say about and, and don't look now. Sure. That's three straight wins for the Lions. Now they beat the Packers, the Bears, and now the Giants, and now they got a home date with the bills on Thanksgiving Day. We'll, we'll get to the bills in a moment, but you know what an opportunity now, I don't think anyone's giving him, giving him real chance, but a nice momentum. For the lions coming out of Thanksgiving, tilt against the bills. Yeah. I mean, look, it's again, does this change how the season's gonna go? No. Good victory for a great head coach that I still believe in and, and a team that's on, on, you know, on, on the rise. Agreed. Yeah. This was a surprising result and I do think it did expose some things with the giants. I mean, I. Brian Day Ball's. Gotta be really honest with himself and actually give himself the credit that he deserves because I think Daniel Jones did show you some of his limitations in this game, and when they really needed drives to be put together, they were not able to do it against, honestly. Sure. I mean, Detroit's defense has been bad all year. I mean, it really has not been good. Even in their win against the Bears last week you know, they really couldn't stop'em a whole, a whole lot. So I think for, for this team to the giants to lose, to the lions in this fashion where they couldn't really move the ball that much when it mattered. That's, that's tough. Now it's just one game. You're right. And it's, it could just be like, Hey, caught him by surprise and overlooked him and. But now they're, you know, they've got a Thanksgiving Day tilt with the Cowboys you think are, should be riding high after their win at Minnesota. We'll see how that shakes out and short. Interesting. You know, interesting kinda wrinkle with this. Cowboys giants Thanksgiving Day game, Odel Beckham. Coming off as ACL said, to be fully healthy. Now he's, it's rumored that he's down to the Cowboys and Giants as the two teams that he's deciding between. And, you know, what are the chances that the, the winner of this game essentially gets to secure his services Like, like this, basically this game being the Odell Beckham Bowl. What do you think of that? I, I mean, I don't know why he would wanna go, or, or do you think he's already made up his mind? Odell knows where he's going and that game's result has no bearing on what he ultimately does? Honestly, I haven't really been paying that much attention to what odell might be doing. I really don't give a shit. He's, I, I've never been one. Who plays into the drama of behind, you know, divas in the nfl? Cause I think the game is greater than any individual player. I don't know why he would want to go back to New York besides the fact that he wants to take advantage of the. You know, of the contacts, connections and, and, and and, and the media opportunities. But I mean, if, if he really wants to win a ring, he's, he's gonna go somewhere where he can actually propel a team above, you know, over where they are. I, I think he could really make a difference in, in Dallas. And, and the same way that who's the guy number 40 for the bills? That, that was with the, his name did pass rusher. Oh, Bob. Juan Miller is kind of making a statement saying that, look, I'm not over the hill. I did have an impact on the Rams winning a Super Bowl. Odell could say the same. I mean, what a better way. I mean, Odell, I would say Odell also had an impact on, on the Rams winning a zero bowl too. I mean, no, that's, that's what I mean by, and then he can really solidify that and, and for him to go to New York, I think it's just, it just, he wants to be rude and he wants to kind of like stick it into the giant spaces saying, yeah, do you remember you let me go and say me away if you, I'm gonna say no to you. I, I honestly think that he's gonna say no to he. He, I. He wants to say no to the giants and is gonna go end up going to going to Dallas. I don't know why Green Bay wouldn't open up the coffers and try to get him in. Maybe they already give one season four. I mean, they're four and seven, that's why I mean, right. It doesn't even wanna go there. It's cold. It's probably not balls over there, but yeah, I mean, I. To, to me. I, but what Jerry always wonder is, is, is he gonna, is he gonna tell Odell you gotta take a discount cause you're gonna be a Dallas cowboy. Right. Whereas the line, the Giants might now, especially losing one Del Robinson might be in a precarious position to actually offer him a better financial package. We'll wait and see, but it's not gonna end kuru. It's not gonna end well. If he if, if he goes if he goes to new. It's, I agree. And especially with Daniel Jones at quarterback, I just like, there's this, the ceiling isn't very high on what you can do there and you think about Dallas and their offense, a little more dynamic. You've got Gallup and CD to take some of the pressure off. You've got a dynamic running get back, and that's explosive. That just, there's a lot more to that offense you would think. Yeah. He feels like maybe. That's where he can actually, you know, not have to have the pressure of being the, the alpha guy and can come in and make plays where, where he'd be. But but yeah, I'll be watching that to see how that shake shot. But you know, a little bit of extra interesting wrinkle to that game is, is, is it the odel? I guess we'll have to wait and see, but but Shark, let's talk about a game in your neck of the woods and that would. The Chiefs travel and chargers in LA again, and stop me if we've seen this before, but it feels like we're in Hollywood. We've seen this movie. This is a rerun. We've seen this movie several times now. Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. Just rule the day against the Chargers. By the way, Keenan Allen and Mike Williams did play Mike Williams making a phenomenal sideline catch, I believe in the first half of this game, but re aggravating that high ankle spring. But they did have Keenan Allen in this one who played, who played a full compliment of snaps, and actually I think he ended up with over 105 for 94 for Keenan. So, so saw a contribution there. Joshua Palmer really stepping up for the chargers, going over a hundred yards receiving as well. But this was all about mahome. And Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes, 3 29, 3 tds. All three of them going to our man, Travis Kelsey, him going over a hundred yards and scoring the game winning touchdown on Dwin James. I mean, so many kind of just, I think. What do you call it? Just salt in an open wound type moments here if you're a Charger fan, having to watch this game. And the Chargers, man, this is a, was a back and forth contest and all throughout these teams were trading blows. It came down at the N sharp. The Chargers had a 27 to 23 lead late in the fourth quarter, and it was a 17 yard strike from Mahomes to Kelsey with 37 seconds remaining that ISIS one chargers not able to muster up or. In the end of the fourth quarter, 30 to 27, final score. Char, what's going on? Why can't the chargers get above the chief's? Hum. And why is it always seemingly end this way where they just rip their heart out at the end? Well, here's the thing. The, the Chargers actually played them a lot better than the people give them credit. But Char, we say that every time they play, it's like they, they, they, they still don't win. They, they, they don't, they don't have their stud left tackle. They don't have they don't, they didn't have boa They, they had a slew of injury. They lost their tight end. They lost their second best question to read their best receiver early on. Like, come on, the, the, the charges aren't at full strength. There's no way that the charges are full strength, and I'm not being the homer. I, I, again, I'm the one. Came out in the previous show said I might, I think I'm a closet of KC fan. So, but the last time I checked Durwin James was healthy and he was covering Travis Kelsey in the end there. Right? I mean, and he, you know what? He did a pre damn good job. It's not like he's gonna shut him down. Nobody's gonna shut him down. When you made Derwin James the highest paid safety in the history of the nfl, you expect. To lock down Kelsey in those situations. I mean, he, he did When he was on him, he did, he did a pretty good job. There was one play where I think Kelsey got one. Kelsey was having kind of a quiet day early in the in the first half, if you recall. I dunno, that's true. But, but ultimately six catches 115 yards. Three. And were, are you trying to tell me that all those catches were on Durbin James? No, but the game winning touchdown was on Durwin. Okay, so he gave out one play. Oh my God. He's not, you know, like, come on. And Travis Kelsey's quite possibly one of the greatest receiving titans of all time. Sure. So come on. Why is it great you to say that when you're paying him that much money that you don't that to be perfect? Not perfect? No. But like, what about the previous games? Travis Kelsey's roasted the Chargers. I mean, what Travis Kelsey, actually, Travis Kelsey's worst games have been against the charges historically speaking. What are you talking. And you're saying that's cuz of Derwin James. No, I'm not saying that's derwin. James has something to do with it. Even when they talked to the Travis Kel, he goes, they have the best safety in in the game. He's gonna get his. And I was hoping kind of get you're right. He did. He did say that. He did say that. He did say that. You know, Derwin James. Durwin James is an absolute stud, is an absolute beast. I don't think anyone's questioning that. Right. Yeah, it just, it's unfortunate that in the look, the charges, the charges were gonna, I was worried because I had bent this skim and I did a lot of live betting. In between when, when the charges jumped ahead? Seven, nothing. I, I put a lot of money in Kansas City to win, and then when they jumped ahead again in the fourth quarter, I put a lot of money down for the chiefs to win. So I was rooting for the chiefs to win, but, but do not discount the charges. The charges have always had a propensity. Of playing the chief's. Well, they're an in division team. That safety is paid. That safety got paid primarily for the fact that you have guys like Darren Waller and Travis Chelsea in division, you're gonna face them, you're gonna face them twice twice a year each. So don't, don't discount. Do not discount. The that, that, that safety, he's, he's phenomenal. And, and one of, again, one of the reasons he got paid so much is because of that. Travis Kelsey is a freaking beast, man. I mean, come on. He's, he's just, and, and one touchdown was against a Durban James. I believe the rest of'em were against other players. No, they were, you're right. It's just, I think it's optically when it's the most important time in the game, the game winning touchdown. It's on Derwin James. You're just like, damn, you know, you wanna make that play. You want him to shut him down. But, but yeah, to your point, Kelsey, Kelsey's obviously a stud and it's not the first team he's done this to another. But at the end of the day, short, it's still another tough loss for the charters against the chiefs in a game. They had control of late, and, and they, they find ways to not pull these games out. And I, I hear what you're saying, the injuries and all that, but they still were. And you know, like even at the end too, like, I expect Justin Herbert to be able to at least mount some kind of a drive here. And he threw an inopportune, a really, really poor ball into coverage. I mean, it was three guys around the ball and the interception he threw, it got tipped in the air and another DB ended up picking it off. But like, just like poor execution there, I think down the stretch you see at this. Look Kenan. Adam had a had a, a untimely turnover. And even, even, you know, even with that, they were still in the game. Vegas had this game as a six point game and it ended up being what, a three point game. I mean, like the charges the Chargers did cover the charges are nowhere near they need, is it? They need that left tackle. Especially when the chief, when the chiefs have such a, you know, dynamic defensive line who, who was getting in Justin Herbert's face? It's look, the, the, the Chargers played well again you know, if, if we, if, if I would've lost one in this game, I would've blamed you saying that, you know, every time that I lose it, because you and I agree on a, to on a game. So luckily that didn't happen. Fair enough, man. But yeah, so I mean, now at this point, sharp. The chiefs, they'd got a sizable, sizable lead in their division. They're eight and two and I think the nearest team is like three games behind them. So they're, they're sitting pretty. They've got, we talked about the irony in a season where we, where we thought the ad S was gonna be so competitive, and this could be the year that she's getting you thrown. They've gotten even larger larger game. They're gonna lose a game though. They're, they're, I mean, like, look, they're they look, they, they, they lost. They had bad, not that they had bad losses, but they lost. Badly to to, to, to some teams. And then they're not gonna, they're not gonna win the rest of their games. You know, again, I'm, I'm, I'm a guy that, that picked the Chiefs to win the afc. So you know, there's a there's still some games for'em. Like they have a tough game at Cincinnati that, that, that could, you know, they still face the Broncos twice, so it, it's, you know, and they play Seattle. So look, they, they, they still, they still have some tough games. That's fair. That's fair. I get that. But man, at this point, especially given the bills recent was the, the road of the Super Bowl of AFC. Looks like if everyone could be going through Kansas City. But Charlotte, let's talk about a team in the, in the AFC who looks like they can win anywhere and that will be the Tennessee Titan Titans. And I know now it's where it's Tuesday and last Thursday seems like an eternity. You go. But this Tennessee Titans. They just look so impressive. I mean, 27 17 victory over the Packers at Green Bay, and it was just a rock m som type performance. Ryan Tannahill looking, I mean, might have been his best game of the season chart, 22 outta 27, 3 33, 2 tds on a night where Derek Henry didn't really be, you know, let the world on. 28 carries 87 yards just over three yards to carry average. Or Derek Henry, a very tame performance by his standards and trailing bes the rookie receiver finally in his breakout game seven for one 11. I believe a certain someone on this, on this podcast might have mentioned that that could be coming and he, he did he did, he did break out. Just I was very, and I know it was only a 10 point victory on paper. This was a very impressive win by Tennessee. And now with that victory show, Tennessee Elevated is seven and three. They look good, man, don't they? Yeah. I mean, we, we, we talked about it. We said that, you know I know it was an early game, so it seems like eons ago, but we both, we both picked Tennessee to win and yeah. Um, And, and I, I, and I think I mentioned it and you vehemently agreed with it. I, I said the reason why I'm picking Tennessee. To win and to cover is because I'm not going to doubt my PR Again, I'm just, I'm just not, I'm just not going to do it again. So it, it's, it seems like a losing proposition. Yeah. I mean, the guy, look, I know I'm biased because, because of my relationship with him, but how can anybody argue the fact that year in, year out, he's a solid candidate for coach year? Yeah, I know. And it's, it's, it's almost. You're absolutely right. No, he's the guy. The guy's incredible. He's doing it with a lot of people that aren't household names. Right. And this is, I mean, this is the kind of team show. They don't really need a home playoff game like they're built to win anywhere with Stout Defense, Derek Henry running back, tan Hill, efficient quarterback. If Trail and Burkes can come along and be kind that, not exactly AJ Brown, but just a big physical presence as a possession receiver and just a, a power guy that's big for them. I mean, they quietly have some play makers in this team. This is like, they're almost like the Niners last year to me and the nfc. It's like, this is the team that you don't wanna face. Even if you're home to them, you don't wanna face it. Right? Yeah. Like they can win anywhere. Yeah. I mean, look, look, we both thought that they're not even gonna make the playoffs. Because we thought that know was gonna run away with this division, and we said, with the AFC West being the way it is, we could see, you know, easily three teams making it out of there. So we, we were wondering, we were like, this is down here for Tennessee. And and Mike Abel does it again. He, he absolutely does it again. And, and look, they're, I think they're playing Philadelphia next. Yeah, I actually think they play the Bengals first in their next game, and then they play a Philadelphia. After that. But yeah, they do play the Eagles coming up. Right. And, and, and look you don't think Mike Abel's gonna have a little talk with his team when they're playing the Bengals? After that you know, first round playoff owl thing last year at home. Yeah. So, you know, that's gonna be a, that's gonna be a featured topic of discussion. And I got news for you. Remember, look, last week we talked about Philly on what the weakness is, you know, You know, talk about being able to run the ball against somebody so Tennessee's on, on, on the, on the rise. So you know, again, I'm glad that I didn't bet against them and I'm glad that I, you know decided to go with my word of saying I'm never gonna doubt him again. And look, I mean, you, you pair a competent passing game with Tana Hill and trailing Brooks coming along. Robert Woods having a decent show on Ann Green Bay. They're, they're kind of starting to peak a little bit, right? Like, you, you see them building, building, building again, not a team. I wanna see'em on the, in the playoffs if I'm an AFC contender. We'll see how it all shake out and Sure. Like, keep in mind too, in their last six games, three of them are, we've talked about Cincinnati Philly. Dallas, they also got the Chargers in there. So I'm not saying that they're gonna win all those games, but they've got their as challenging enough schedule to where they will definitely be battle tested heading into the playoffs. And they likely, just because of the lead they have in the AFC South, they will likely host at least one playoff game and you think probably have a good shot to at least make it to, to the divisional round. So this is a dangerous team, man. Like, I want no part of these guys. We'll see how it plays out there. Shark, let's talk about one of the teams you just mentioned that's on their schedule coming up, and that will be the Philadelphia Eagles coming off the heels of a home loss to your Washington Commander. Char barely eeking out a 1716 victory at Indianapolis, and I thought Indy really lost this game if you asked me. There was a couple of very crucial moments in this. Where Indy could have taken control and they failed to do so, but Credit Philadelphia Jalen Hertz rushing touchdown late in the fourth quarter, gave them the one point lead, and then Matt Ryan under pressure, could not mount a drive to close this game out. Also notable for Philadelphia Char. Free agent Interior D line acquisitions, Lin Val Joseph, and end Dominic and Sue each posting half a sack in this game. So you know Holly Roseman love seeing that investment, paying early dividends for him and hey, it's a one point win, but it's still a win. Philadelphia nine and one, still a top, the NFC East and more importantly, still a top the NFC and a position to take home field. The playoffs. Sure. Are you at all concerned about Philly? And I know it's weird to said that about a nine one team, but are you at all concerned about Philly, given the way they lost to Washington, and how they barely eked this one out against the Colts team, that they should be a lot better than what, what do you think coming out of all this? Well, first of all, you're not gonna give credit for, for taking taking the cols with the points. Well, I, I, yeah. I mean, I did that in my, in my pick. This is a, this is a Kohl's team that beat Kansas City at. That's all I needed to know. This team come off a big win. They're at home. They beat KC Don earlier in the air, like they can get up for a big game. So I was not surprised by this at all. I, I wanna get to a sequence. I thought really, I think the side of this game and, and the opportunity for Indie to end it, and they didn't, they failed to do so, but just like I first wanna get your take on, does the last two weeks at all affect your perception of Philadelphia and their staying power? In the nfc? Oh, absolutely. Because look what I said, my reason for concern for this game, and I actually said, be careful if the, if the Eagles aren't if the eagles aren't careful, there's gonna be another upset. And I, and remember I said if, if the Redskins or the commanders hadn't beaten Philly the week before, I was gonna call upset. I don't know if you remember that or not, because, because here's the thing. Philly's weakness is the interior interior. Interior run games, especially with Jordan Davis missing. So look, I'm, I'm absolutely, the, the commanders basically gave the pathway of how to beat Philly. You keep play, basically play chief away from Philly's offense, and you just run right at him. You just run right at him. And, and, and that's, and that's how you can do it. So yeah, absolutely. If I was, you know, if I was a Philly fan, I would be concerned for'em. But here, credit to them. Credit to. The first thing they did is they went ahead and signed a Dominic suit, which is addressing that. Now, whether it's gonna work or not, that remains to be seen, but the guy had half a sack in his first game, so that Jonathan Taylor had a nice first half. I think he had, he had 64 yards on, 12 carries in the first half, only had 20 yards on. 10 carries in the second half. So the, the line getting it done when it mattered most down the. Right. And they made the adjustments. So look, they went ahead and, and made the adjustment that they needed to make. And look but, but the, the pathway still exists. I'm not certain that Philly's gonna be able to be Tennessee because it, it just plays into what into what Tennessee does. So, absolutely, I would be concerned. And and, and look, teams, teams, NFL's a copycat league. So the formula for beating Philly has been. So you think they're okay? And so you think that essentially this could spell trouble for them in the NFC playoffs at some point against, and like, will you describe Char right now when you said run away, run right at them and play, take away, keep away. Like, I kind of like. I think of like the Niners and the Cowboys. When you say that, like as teams, that, that potentially can do that Right. In the nfc. So I, I don't know if you see them as as you know, worthy opponents there, but those, those are two teams you feel like have the ability to do exactly what you described against, against Philadelphia. Absolutely. It, it just but, but I think the, the running game of of the, of the not necessarily the 49ers, but the Cowboys is, it's similar to, it's similar to Green Bay and it's similar to Minnesota where it's more of a finesse running game where they like use angles and, and, and so on and so forth. I would, you know, they, it seems like that a, that a pounding, that a pounding offensive lineman is, is, is what's gonna take, but I, but, but I guess, you know, the Cowboys do have that with Zeke and and credit calling out Zeke on fourth and short right away. So that's something we didn't talk about. You, you called it, you said, you said, you know, bring it down and, and look. You were proven, right? Because two, two times in order they tried to get Pollard the ball and, and Zeke came in and Yeah. Cut the ball back. And, and, and just that, that, that awareness. And I saw, because I remember on the second attempt when they were giving it to Pollard I, I, I, I, I told'em, I said, God, you just had to cut back. Just cut back and Right. And Zeke came in and, and it was some kind of a, it almost seemed like instinctive to him. He just came in and Yeah, like in a, in a phone booth. He's so good. And that's why I'm saying, you know, I'm not saying because you're paying Zeke more, playing more. No, no, no, no. Like you're like, and I think my theory with the Cowboy Char is they know Polar is gonna get X amount of touches every game. They're not gonna scale back his touches, but they also know that there's certain situations you described, like Zeke just has a role and it makes sense to have him in the game. So, yeah, I mean, we'll see. But, but man and Philly, the, the stretch. I wanted to talk about this game show, which I think really ultimately decided. And I, as I was watching the game, I said, this is the, you know, something, you know, this is the moment, this is the drive where one team really can end the game, right? If they execute. And for me, this came for. The Colts in the fourth quarter. Okay. They, it was about I think six or so or so minutes left. In the fourth quarter, they mounted an 11 play 47 yard drive. Yeah. Just 4, 4 57 was left in the quarter at the end of this drive. Right. They were up 13, 10. Okay. They get this ball sha all the way. To Philadelphia's. Let's see, where were they? They got, they had first in goal at the five. First in goal at the Five Char with 5 44 remaining in the game. First in Goal, Taylor up the middle. No game. Second in goal. Matt and Ryan in Complete Pass. Third in goal, Matt Ryan, negative 14 yard sack. They gotta sell for three. They go of 16, 10, and of course, fully wins. With a touchdown on the extra point. 17, 16, where I thought they really made a mistake. Char was the seconding goal play. Yes. I understand. The first in goal was shut down. Okay. For no gain. You got second end goal at the five yard line. Okay. At that point, I still stick a run in there, or I call some kind of a play of screen, something that's an extension of the running game. Why? It guarantees me some positive yardage and it guarantees me the clock runs, so the Philly has to use a timeout or the, the clock runs a little bit more. I think that throw on second and goal at the five yard line as it really killed the momentum of that drive. Imagine you give it to Taylor. Second and goal, right? And he gets three yards. They're the two. And then on third and goal, he gets one yard. Okay, now you got a decision. Maybe like, I just think you have more options running the ball there. And there's more positives to keeping the clock going and forcing Philly to potentially call time outs that they just, they, they, they gave Philly a break there and a touchdown on that drive. If you go up 20 to 10 with five minutes left, that game is basically over, right? Basically over. So I thought that to me was the stretch that Indie could have won this game and it was the second end goal. They decided to throw it. It didn't work out, and I think that that really determined the result of this gay man. Unfortunately, for. Well, I didn't see the game, so I, I, I don't know what the flow of the game was whether to agree with you or not. So I can't really comment on it cuz I, again, I, I didn't see the entire game. I just saw the highlights. But, but having said that, you said on first and goal on the five, how many, how many arts did they get? They got no game. Okay. So I mean, like, again, I, I don't know, you might be right, but my counter to your statement would be what would, what would make you think that they're gonna be successful second or third time around when the first time did, you know, didn't, didn't work, but I just think I, I think a run there, it, you might get a couple yards, keeps the clock going, right? Like, like get close, like to. Exposing Matt Ryan. When you, when you've got Jonathan Taylor and you're at the five yard line, and two of those three downs are a pass, that's a problem to me. I think, I think it should have been Inver. No, that's, that's, that's, that's fair. That's, that's fair. And, and again, I was purely presenting that to you as a as being a devil's athlete. Cause I didn't see the Florida game. I did, I did not see the game. You know, so, so who knows? So you, you might very well be right and you know, with that assessment. But in any case, Philadelphia hangs on, they're nine and one, but Asure said, with some potential you know exposed with their with. Divisional and conference lead. We'll see how Philly continues to play and respond. I mean, Philly's scheduled the rest of the way. I know you've seen it. I mean, they've got, they've got an absolute cake walk of a schedule. You know, they got the Packers at home. Titans are no cake walk, but it's a Giants bears. Cowboys are tough, maybe. And then the saints, well, according to you, they're gonna get their ass handed to, to them by Philly. So that should be an easy win. Right? So, so basically the only tough game they really got is against Tennessee. Well look, all those, all those divisional games are gonna be tough. It's, yeah, it's out New York at Chicago, but then they, and they end with the Saints at home. You know, so, so if they, you know, even if they, if they go four and. In this stretch here, that's probably good enough. Even three and three might be good enough, but four and two likely locks it up for you. Not a very challenge. I mean, I mean, yeah, Titans are good. Cowboys are good. Packers are not very good giants. Could be on a downturn, you know, bears. Yeah. Better than they were last year, but still not, not a winning team. And the saints are kind of a mess as well. So I expect them to at least go foreign too in this home stretcher and lockup home field, we shall see. For Philly real quick, char. Jets, Patriots. What a tough ending. This one was three. Three game all the way through with 25 seconds left in the game. The Jets, they could not convert a third and one, they've gotta punt it, and the Patriots run this punt back. Four touchdown with seven seconds left from the game. They hang on to win 10 to three. So many questions. Number one, why did they just punt it out of bound? That's the only way you lose that game is if the ball gets returned. That punter just, I mean, it was like a popped lie right in the middle of the football field. That was weird to see. So potential oversight there by Roberts law and the staff. And I mean, the real story of this one, char. Not just the, just lost the way they lost. I mean, getting absolutely nothing from their offense. And namely Zach Wilson, nine of 22 for 77 yards sharp. The just in the second half, two yards of total offense when asked after the game, if he feels like the offense, let the defense down. Because the defense held the Patriots to just three points for the most of the game and still lost. He said, no, I don't think so. He was very nonchalant. And after the game show, a report coming out from the Jets locker room that some of his teammates said. Zach Wilson is walking around as if he's not the problem. What do you make of the situation? And the last thing I'll say is now Roberts Law yesterday, not committing to Zach Wilson as the starter of going forward. Good. All options are open. What do you think of this? Of this thing? Look, I, I would like to go off on, on Zach Wilson. But really the only reason why I don't wanna do that is because, you know, running the risk of sounding like that grumpy old man that's saying, get off my lawn. It's like basically Zach Wilson represents everything that is wrong with the, that I believe is wrong with the younger generation in, in terms of this, this, this whole microwave society of I want instant gratification now. I want the attention me to. Everything's all about me. It's about me. It's about me. It's about me. Like, how freaking out of touch do you have to be to not realize to, even if you feel a certain way, don't fucking open your mouth of you, idiot. Why would you say such a thing? Like, like, like what is the, what is the matter with you? Like, you know, we, we've, we've ripped, we've ripped apart Russell Wilson. We've ripped apart Aaron Rogers for, for the things that they've said in the past. This is a new low, this is an absolute new low for for, for what I've seen going on. It's like you produce, you produce three freaking points all game long and two yards in the second half. Yeah. Like, are you kidding? No, like, yeah, like you say, it takes some responsibility. It, it's, it's ridiculous. I, I, I'm, I'm done with that guy. He, he, he sounds like, you know, he needs to grow up. He needs to fucking grow up and he needs to, we were talking about a couple weeks ago, char, this offense is better with Joe Flaco, and I wasn't kidding when I said that. I mean Oh, absolutely is. They had a legit passing game early in the season when he was a quarterback. It absolutely is. It absolutely is. But I got news for you. If they, if they give up on Zach Wilson, it, it's time to move on. It's time to move on. But, but, but, but it might be though. Maybe they've seen enough. This. Look, it's, it's time to move on and, and, and look, you and I both sat there all freaking time before the draft saying, do not draft this guy. Do not mortgage your, remember we were saying, what are you doing? Unless if he's a generational tackle, do not a talent do not do this. And he was the second it. Sure. He wasn't just the first round pick, he was the second overall pick in the first. So I'm, I'm telling you, Kuro, if, if, if people were redrafting right now, Yeah. Trevor Lawrence would still be the first pick. Just just because of, of we know what he represents. Cause he's that, he's that generational talent. But I'm telling the Jets, I mean, come on. I mean, like, like, do you remember I kept saying, I'm saying how do we know that Zach Wilson's gonna be better than Sam Donald? Yeah. Well, it turns out neither of them would've probably worked out, but Right. But wouldn't it be better if, if they had, if they had p on there, remember when I said had the opportunity to have the two? Tackles the nfl, right? I mean, at this point I don't think you can argue that anymore. Sure. I, I'd be curious from your standpoint as a, as a former player in the locker room, what does it mean when whoever these unnamed sources are, say something like, he's walking around like, He's not the problem. Like, like what does that mean? Like, like what did Zach Wilson have to do for someone to like, feel that way? Like, you know what I mean? Like, like what does that mean? He did that listed at that guy? It just, it just not taking the law seriously. Running around, joking around. Like, like remember when I criticized Kyle Murray and Hollywood Brown for. Laughing and telling jokes when Zach earth was being carted off. Yeah. It, it's, it's, it's, it's things like that. It, it's, it's like, look, you take, you take a loss like that where you've let your defense down. I wouldn't, I wouldn't have the balls to even look at my defense. In the face. Yeah. I would be so apologetic. I would be so freaking apologetic that but it just, it just, that's basically what it means, you know? It just, it just means that he's walking around, goofing it up, laughing it around, and not taking the, like you, he look at some point you need to become a fucking professional. Plain and simple. Yeah. Yeah. Tough, tough to see. They're saying that Mike White. Could be named to Starter. Why not Joe Flaco? I mean, what else do you need to see from Joe? I mean, Joe Flaco came in earlier. Why is all of a sudden Mike Whites name getting to around? I don't really understand. And I know Mike White, actually I think Mike White, remember last year he came in relief from Zach was 400 yards. He threw for 400 yards and back to back games last year. So I mean, he's shown he could make plays, but like you've also seen Flaco play pretty well. So I don't get why Mike, Mike would be the guy, but in any case, I think we can both agree either way. One of those guys deserves to be in there are Zach Wilson at this point, right? Absolutely. And and the only reason why I would think that they would go with Mike White is that they might have a suspicion that that look there might be something with him moving forward because they know what Joe Flaco is. You know, the other thing that it could be, not that I think about it, kuru it might be easier, but like they might, they might know that if they, if they play Mike, There might be a chance that Zach Wilson needs to come out and save today, versus if they're putting Joe Flaco, things are gonna go so well. That basically slams the door shut for Zach Wilson. So might be an effort to save Zach Wilson for himself. You're not a three and seven, four and six team. There's six and four. They're still very much in the playoff front. Like I wanna put the guy that gives me the best chance today. I'm not trying to see what I have in Mike White, and I think Joe Flagler helped me win. Now you're still can make a run at this thing. Yeah, but, but you're building, if you're Robert Solo, this is, this is year one. You're future you two. Yeah, I'm sorry. Year two. You're building, you're building for the future, so you're, you know, you're trying to see what you got. And, and, and, and really they're one of those teams. Are they, are they really six and four? I mean, let's, let's think about it, Dave. I mean, like, I mean they, yeah, I get it. But look, they, yeah, they, they, they've punched'em by their weight a little. Right. And yeah, maybe to your point, it does, maybe you sacrifice some QB play figuring out if you got something to Mike White going forward, but man, what a all embracing. But, but again, it could also be the fact that they're trying to save Zach Wilson for himself because if Joe Faco comes in, he's gonna be good enough where he is not gonna be benched again versus Mike White. There could be an opportunity for Zach Wilson to come in and save today and, and kind of save face with his defense. I don't think Zach Wilson's saving any days, man. I I, yeah. But, but if there's ever a chance this, this would be it. Yeah. I guess maybe you, you leave that door open because of where you picked him and, and what you gave up and other players to give up drafting to get him. So Yeah. Very well Could be the k. Man, what week? It was a lot of fun and we got Thanksgiving football coming up. Sure. Are you, are you you still get down and, and just hunker down and watch football there? Or what's, what's your Thanksgiving schedule looking like? Oh, absolutely. Going to my sister's and I'm gonna be glued to the tv. We're gonna have Thanksgiving with my kids in my place on Wednesday night. Okay. Kinda just the immediate family. And then, because you know, my boys run my stores. Two of them are gonna be working. So then I'm gonna go over my sisters, but I got a big ski vacation coming up buddy, so We'll I'm looking forward to that. So we're gonna be, we're gonna be talking probably couple times from Lake Tahoe with me, so, oh my man. Living it up over here. Look. Oh, stop it. The, the guys literally, we were recording this from K's. Stadium under underground stadium seating movie theater. Give me a break. you, you wanna switch with me? I'll go to Lake Tahoe. You can come over here. How about that, Well, I've, no, let's not downplay the fact of, of, of what you got going on over there. It's all good, man. Hey, always fun buddy. Looking forward doing this again soon. Absolutely. Take care, buddy. Until next time. See you.