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The Practice Career Cycle: How to Get to Level 4, the Best Level! (with Dr. Roger Levin)

May 19, 2025 • Grant Stucki - oral and maxillofacial surgeon • Episode 305

What if the most fulfilling, profitable version of your surgical career was just a few strategic shifts away? In this episode, Dr. Grant Stuck welcomes back Dr. Roger Levin, Founder and CEO of Levin Group, to break down the Practice Career Cycle, a four-level framework that shows how oral surgeons evolve in their careers, and why most never make it to the most rewarding stage: Level 4. Dr. Levin shares why Level 3, the stage of maximum work, often becomes a trap and how Level 4 offers a path to greater efficiency, higher profits, and more enjoyment. He also explains how delegation, leadership, and having the right office manager can transform your day-to-day experience and long-term outcomes. If you're feeling stuck, overworked, or simply curious about what’s possible, this episode offers a clear and inspiring roadmap to a better practice (and a better life)!

Key Points From This Episode:

Insight into the four-level framework that defines a surgeon’s career.
The first three levels: from getting started to building competence to maximum work.
Warning signs of burnout and stagnation (and how to overcome them).
The hidden costs of not marketing consistently.
Reasons that most office managers aren’t equipped to lead.
What it looks like to do only what you excel at.
The “post-it test” and how delegation is the key to profitability and freedom.
Viewing your office manager as the COO: hiring, training, and decision-making.
Imagining a practice that runs without you running it.
Ways that income reflects operational efficiency (and how to make it count!)
Building a team and culture that empowers you to perform at your highest level.
Customer service and relying on a team of experts as key traits of Level 4 surgeons.
The value of continuous education and mastering the skill of learning itself.
Actionable strategies and practical tips to help you advance to Level 4.

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Dr. Roger Levin on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/roger-levin-69ab744/

Levin Group — https://levingroup.com/

American Association of Dental Office Management — https://www.dentalmanagers.com/

Harvard Business Review Newsletters — https://hbr.org/email-newsletters

The Dichotomy of Leadership — https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250195772

Everyday Oral Surgery Website — https://www.everydayoralsurgery.com/

Everyday Oral Surgery on Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/everydayoralsurgery/

Everyday Oral Surgery on Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/EverydayOralSurgery/

Dr. Grant Stucki Email — grantstucki@gmail.com

Dr. Grant Stucki Phone — 720-441-6059