Becca Rea-Tucker on Her New Book: The Abortion Companion

If you're planning to have an abortion soon or you have had one in the past… if you’re feeling a strong emotion (or many of them) before or after receiving care… or if you are looking to support a friend, Becca Rea-Tucker’s (author, baker, and reproductive rights advocate) new book, The Abortion Companion: An Affirming Handbook for Your Choice and Your Journey, is a safe and supportive resource to learn more and have a safe space. 

Becca wrote the Abortion Companion after her own abortion. Many pre-existing products for abortion contribute to stigma, but Becca’s book emphasizes that any feeling (including joy, sadness, relief, or a mix) is ok to feel. The book features self-compassion exercises, comfort tv and movie sections, conversation scripts, affirmations, and more. The book also offers a break from the day-to-day fight for abortion care, imagining a future where the world is unapologetically pro-abortion. 

Transcript

Jennie: 0:03

Welcome to Repros Mike Back, a podcast on all things related to sexual and reproductive health rights and justice. Hi, Repros. How's everybody doing? I'm your host, Jenny Wetter, and my pronouns are she, her. So, y'all, I like I said, I had a really nice and relaxing two weeks off. Our office was closed, so I was really able to step away from work, which was so delightful. But also that meant things were a little hectic before I went home for the holidays of like all of these things I was trying to get done before the end of the year. And then some things got pushed into the new year, and I had a bunch of things that had to be done right away when I came in. So I feel like after the relaxing two weeks, my brain was like, I'm just not ready to be back yet. I'm just like still a little chill, and my workload was like, you have a bunch of things that need to be accomplished, brain. You need to get involved. So it has been a little bit of a rocky start to come back in the new year. I'm getting things done, but just not at a pace that I would have liked to have gotten them done. It's okay. It's it these things happen. I am still feeling like I'm not spending a ton of time on social, and I'm really okay with that. I feel like the last couple months, maybe even longer, I have been just not spending anywhere near as much time on social media, which is nice. You know, I'm still going and sharing like podcast episodes when they come out, so don't worry, you'll still see those. And you know, if something in particular happens, otherwise, I feel like I spend more time. Like if if I'm on social, I'm like watching videos on Bookstagram to find books I should be reading or listening to, you know, people talk about books so I can find new stories. But even there, I've just not been doing it as much, which is nice. Like I said, I've been doing like some cross stitch and doing reading, watching comfort TV, which has been delightful. And then I have been doing some more baking uh the last couple months. Honestly, I feel like even most of last year, I just haven't been baking anywhere near as much as I was for a while. A lot of like I would go get to be Sunday when I would usually do my baking, and I would just be like, uh, I don't wanna. So I'm hoping to maybe do better on that this year. Like I said, I just haven't been doing anywhere near as much. That said, before I recorded this episode, I was talking to Becca Ray Tucker for today's episode, also known as the Sweet Feminist. She had a cookbook that came out a couple years ago called Baking Bet Organized, Organized Bad, or When You're Anxious. And so uh we talk about it a little bit in my interview, but I have really enjoyed her cookbook. But right before our interview, I felt like it was only right to make something from it. So I made her brownies, which were delightful. They have a little hint of cinnamon in them. They're just perfect. I love them. And I'm not a big chocolate person, so for me to be like, I really love these brownies is saying something. So highly recommend. I will definitely make them again. And I think I will use her recommendation. She said that she made some over the holidays, that instead of this hint of cinnamon, she used a splash of peppermint, which is right up my alley. So may have to try that um next time I make them. But like I said, I'm not a big chocolate person, so it might be a little while. But that was really delightful. So that was like a random Wednesday bake. So we'll see. I I just I feel like I I really enjoy the baking. I love it makes my place smell so good. I love making fresh baked bread. I just haven't had the willpower, honestly, to do it. So that is, I'm not gonna say a resolution because I don't really do New Year's resolutions, but that is something I would like to do more of in 2026 than I did in 2025. So that's kind of where my head is at at the moment. But let, you know, since I already brought up Becca, let's go ahead and talk about her book. I'm so excited this week to talk to Becca Ray Tucker. Uh, she wrote a brand new book that y'all highly recommend. Go out to bookshop and get it. It's called The Abortion Companion, an Affirming Handbook for Your Choice and Your Journey. It is such a great resource. I highly, highly recommend it. And with that, let's go to my interview with Becca so you can learn more about it. Hi, Becca. Thank you so much for being here today. Thank you so much for having me. I am so excited to be here. I'm really excited to have you. And before we get started, let's do a quick round of introductions so everybody knows who's talking. Do you want to take a minute and introduce yourself?

SPEAKER_00: 4:51

Sure. So I'm Becca Ray Tucker. I am an author, baker, and reproductive rights advocate based in Austin, Texas. I've been doing repro work for almost a decade now. And I have a new book coming out next Tuesday, or today actually, right? When it goes out, um, called The Abortion Companion, an Affirming Handbook for Your Choice and Your Journey.

Jennie: 5:10

I'm so excited you mentioned the Baker part because I wanted to take a second before we talked about the new book to talk about the old book. I loved your cookbook. I have really enjoyed the couple things I made for it. In celebration of our interview this morning, I made the brownies from the cookbook, and they were finally cool enough that I was able to dig into them and they were delightful and made me so happy.

SPEAKER_00: 5:36

Thank you. That makes me so happy. I had the brownies last week. I made them for the holidays and I added peppermint extract. It's like a half teaspoon peppermint extract. So good. I was just gonna say the cinnamon was delightful. Oh, yeah. Yep. Also love the cinnamon. Leave that out if you do the mint. Okay.

Jennie: 5:53

That was kind of what my head was saying. Yeah, no. Leave that part out. I will definitely do the mint next time. I think my favorite that I've made so far, because obviously I will make more, was the sugar cookies with the sanding sugar on them.

SPEAKER_00: 6:07

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are supposed to be like the sugar cookies from the mall that I would get when I was a child. They were so good. I think they're pretty close. Something about the sour cream flavor really, really matches that. Yes. Thank you for making those. Yeah.

Jennie: 6:23

That makes me really happy. I I try not to bake on the sweet side as much because I live by myself and like I don't need to just sit and eat all of that. So when I started baking, I made the turn and started doing like bread instead. Yeah. Uh, because then I was like having that for breakfast like during the pandemic, and still now sometimes. So one of my favorites is to make pumper nickel, but I also had like a cranberry, various nuts. I feel like I've done walnuts and pecans. Oh man, I love walnuts and anything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 6:57

I'm a walnut person.

Jennie: 6:59

Um, I've dabbled in sourdough. Yeah. It's one of those. I love it, but like not enough to keep a starter around.

SPEAKER_00: 7:07

Absolutely. I feel that way too. My go-to bread is just bocaca because it's that day. Easy.

Jennie: 7:15

I was doing bagels for a while. When I had my starter, I loved making sourdough English muffins.

SPEAKER_00: 7:21

Oh, yum. Yes. Oh, that sounds good. Maybe I'll have an English muffin after this. I know, right? Delightful.

Jennie: 7:28

Okay. I guess we should maybe talk about the book we're supposed to talk about. Um, I just finished it yesterday and I had such a wonderful time reading it and thinking about I wish I had had it, you know, several years ago when I had friends who that I could, you know, give it to. I can I can just see it as like such a useful thing to give or loan to people who are getting an abortion or want to help somebody who is who is getting one. But tell us about the book.

SPEAKER_00: 7:59

Yes. Okay, so I wrote The Abortion Companion because it is the book that I needed when I had my own abortion. I wrote it out of the experience of having my own abortion, but also from talking to hundreds and potentially thousands of other people about their abortions um over the past decade. So abortion is extremely stigmatized. Um, and so we really need more affirming resources um for people who have abortions. Because there are resources out there. There are lots of books. If you search, you know, like abortion resource on Amazon, like lots of things come up, but they generally um come with very stigmatizing language that emphasizes remorse, shame, regret, which my book, The Abortion Companion, I say that any feelings that you're feeling about your abortion are more than okay, whether that is intense happiness, intense sadness, um, a mix of both. For generally, for a lot of people, it's a mix of a lot of different things. And so this book is meant for the full spectrum of people who have abortions in all situations, no matter how you feel about your abortions.

Jennie: 9:01

I really loved it, it was just like very simple and clear language. Like you were having a conversation with somebody, not you know, so often when you read a lot of these things, it's like research or policy, or like it's it's it's not written as like you're talking to a friend who is there supporting you. And this just had that really clear, simple language that I thought was really powerful.

SPEAKER_00: 9:27

Thank you. I really appreciate that. I was so lucky to get to record an audiobook version as well. Oh nice which I'm hoping people will get to use um sort of in acute situations, like say you're sitting in a clinic waiting room, um, you can hear my voice. I recorded it myself, so you can hear me actually talking to you. Also, for people who might not feel comfortable walking around with a physical book, I'm hoping that that will be an option. Um and there's an e-book version as well. But yes, I am very happy that there is the physical version um because I see it as something that can sit on a shelf as um like an affirming message. Like we see so many stigmatizing messages about abortion, you know, all the billboards, whatever. But so I want my little book to be um sitting on someone's shelf. Like if you go to a new therapist and it's like, oh, I see they have this, you know, affirming book on their bookshelf, or like a high school counselor's office, that sort of thing. That's where I see I see the book going and being passed around. I'm envisioning it like, oh, there's like, you know, a copy in a bar bathroom or something. I want people to be able to stumble upon it and have it be out in the world in a place they can find. I love that.

Jennie: 10:31

I also really love the I mean, I feel like so much of the work of the book is tackling stigma. And as somebody who grew up going to Catholic school K through eight, like, yeah, while there wasn't a heavy necessarily focus on it, like I feel like you hear from a lot of people, it was definitely in the air and permeating and in the terrible, not actual sex ed, sex ed I got, right? Like you just like all that shame and stigma is so hard to shake off, even as you're like you grow and change your mind. Like that stuff is just it's sticky and it's so hard to get rid of.

SPEAKER_00: 11:13

Absolutely. It's so it is, it's so sticky. Like, even before I had my abortion, I would have told you that I was pro-choice, but I probably also would have told you, oh, but I probably wouldn't have an abortion myself. Same. And it's like, ma'am, why do you feel the need to say that? You know, it's okay to stop if you say I'm pro-choice. That's fine. I support people who have abortions. That's enough. Like, we don't need to say, I don't, I don't know what I would do. You know, it's okay to just not know. Um, you don't need to mention yourself to support other people, I like to say.

Jennie: 11:43

Yeah, that really stuck with me. And the other thing that really stuck with me is something that I still always work on is the self-compassion and like being kind to yourself. I I often talk to it uh about it on the podcast, is like I have like an inner statler in Waldorf who like sit there and are like constantly heckling. So, like, that is such a big piece that is like again the like ever continual work of being kinder to yourself.

SPEAKER_00: 12:12

Absolutely, yes. And the book has exercises for that. So I wanted to include something for people to sort of sort through all of this internalized shame that they might be dealing with, um, since I had a lot of that myself after my abortion as well. So there's um like a self-compassion exercise where I wrote a letter to myself, to the self who had the abortion at that time, and from what I know now, from the place of what I know now of um compassion and you know respect for people who have abortions without caveat and all of that. So I I wrote a letter to myself, and that's in this book, and I encourage readers to do that as well, because honestly, you know what you need to hear best, like you you know yourself. Um, and so yeah, giving yourself space to be like, oh, I deserve that same kind of compassion that I am, you know, 100% willing to give to my friend without question. It's hard to believe that you deserve that yourself. Yeah, that's that's challenging for me as well.

Jennie: 13:06

I really also loved the like that. So like the letter was really powerful, but also just like the various exercises and the like affirmations are just examples of responses. I I just there were so many helpful tools in the book that I think will be really good.

SPEAKER_00: 13:25

I'm hoping that that's what it is for people. Like I'm thinking of it as like a toolkit um where you know you could open it to any page and hopefully you'll find something that's useful. It's not really meant to be read front to back. You can, of course, read it that way, but there are things in there for across the wide things of what you might be looking for when you're um looking for a book about abortion.

Jennie: 13:46

I also really enjoyed and um going through and like, oh, these are ones I need to check out the comfort movies and TV. I was like, oh, oh yes.

SPEAKER_00: 13:58

I know I sourced those from the community. There's a section in the book um on entertainment and distractions because being in a pregnant body when you don't want to be in a pregnant body is for me, it's horrible. Um, I just hated the waiting for my abortion. So I wanted to hold space for that for people in this book, and so I created a crowdsourced list of comfort movies. I have not seen them all, comfort shows as well. Um, I have not seen them all, and some of them are comforting, like I don't, not in subject. Like some of them are like scary movies, but people are comforted by them. So, like, I don't know, take what, take what works for you and leave the rest. Like, we've got midsomar on here. I don't, I don't know. That that's comforting for someone, I guess. But yeah, I think that was important to include. And I have like other kinds of distractions as well, where I'm like, go outside, like even if you just sit outside for 10 minutes, like that might help in this moment, get you through this moment. So yeah, that yeah, I I'm glad you like that section of the book because that was important to me as well.

Jennie: 14:57

It was a lot of like, oh, I haven't seen that, or oh, I haven't seen that in a long time. I need to like rewatch that.

SPEAKER_00: 15:03

Right. Yes.

Jennie: 15:05

I don't know. It was it was fun. It it hit me in a good place when I I think I was like, I I took the book home with me for the holidays, intending to read it while I was home. Didn't happen. Yep. I never read the books I take with me anymore. Um and it like fell open to the to the list of TV shows while I was you know taking it out and going, maybe I'll read you right now. And it was fell to murder she wrote. And I was like, oh my god, I just started re started watching that. Um, it's on Amazon Prime right now. Yes, and uh, and it was on a bunch while I was at my mom's house. So it just felt your mom's house.

SPEAKER_00: 15:45

I am originally from Wisconsin, southern Wisconsin. Yeah, I'm from Kansas City. Nice very good western.

Jennie: 15:53

Yeah, yeah, it was nice to have have it with me, even if I didn't read it. I would talk took it out and talked to my mom about it.

SPEAKER_00: 16:01

So it was nice. Oh wonderful. Yeah, I'm hoping that it does that for people, um, provides an opportunity to, you know, talk to your family members and friends. Yeah, because they're just there aren't a lot of opportunities to do that naturally. No, not really. We don't grow up hearing a lot about abortion, especially not things that are positive.

Jennie: 16:22

So you know, I always talk about being very lucky, like yes, I went to Catholic school and so had all that stigma and stuff, but I talk about in my origin story of like how I got into this of somebody I went to school with asking me to go with them to go to Madison to save babies. Okay, and being, yeah, obviously, like that, yeah. No, I need to do that. Babies, yes, exactly. And going home and asking my mom and her like sitting me down and her. I I just like the more I think about it, the like the more amazing it is. She's like centered the pregnant person and just very much had the like, well, have you thought about it if you were in this situation, or what about this, or what about that? Didn't do any like this is what you should think. This is I mean, obviously, like led me down the path, but but no, like you can't go. And when she got to the end, was like, okay, so like if you still want to go, you can go. Yeah, and so gave me the autonomy to like make my own choice after having a conversation centering the pregnant person's experience.

SPEAKER_00: 17:32

Wonderful. I am so glad that your mom had that conversation with you. That is so beautiful to hear about. My mom is also affirming pro-choice, it's yes, but even when we have those influences and our personal family life, there's just so much from the external pressures as well. Yeah. I one time I was I used to live in DC. I live in Austin now, but I used to live in DC. And one time I got stuck on a red line train, like in a subway train with a bunch of teens that had come from the March for Life. Oh, I feel like I've been on that exact same train. Yeah, and it's like, yeah, they get to go somewhere with their friends. Like, you know, you get to travel with your friends unsupervised to go do this thing, like you're saying, like going to help people, going to save babies. Like, of course you want to do that. And it's like, wait, that's not actually what you're doing, but yeah.

Jennie: 18:21

Not not my not my favorite train ride, I would say. No, for sure. My favorite March for Life story is my office is in a row house right behind the Supreme Court. And this was after the women's march. So we had like a bunch of signs that were still up from that. We opened our office as like a safe space where people could come and get snacks and use the restroom and stuff. So we had like a bunch of like abortion-related signage, and often the march like ends, and then people walk around behind the Supreme Court to walk to Union Station. And so uh me and a colleague were sitting in the front window, like eating lunch, watching the people, and priests saw us standing next to like the like pro-abortion sign, and he like turned and like you know, like lifted his cross and was like praying at us, and I almost died laughing.

SPEAKER_00: 19:15

That's so funny. Yes, I know there's like so many, so many priests like that. But something that's been really cool lately, I've been doing a book swap where I've been connecting people who want to donate copies of the abortion companion with organizations that would like them for their clients or whatever. So, like clinics, abortion funds, all of that. But I've gotten several requests from affirming churches and congregations, which has been just so incredible. And I just learned about this organization here in Texas, Reproductive Freedom Congregations. And they um, yeah, we're organizing religious communities in Texas to be um affirming places because that that's in the book as well. I get so many people, especially you know, older women being like People told me I was going to hell. Like I believed I was going to hell for forty years. And so there I have a section in the book that specifically says you deserve support from your community, including your religious communities. There are people who will support you within your faith. And here here's how to find them. Because the la the people, you know, the guy with the cross, that's loud. Like, of course, that's loud. But there are there are supportive, affirming um places. And I, yeah, I want people to find those.

Jennie: 20:29

It makes me think of I read Dr. Sela's book earlier this year and had her on the podcast. He is amazing. Like, so amazing.

SPEAKER_00: 20:39

Yeah. And so she was telling in this time.

Jennie: 20:42

So good. And I loved learning more about abortion later in pregnancy because, like, I have the general idea, but reading the book really just brought it home so much more clearly. Yes. And she was telling the like composite of like two different patients who were one was having a really hard time and the other one was was doing better. And because of the way that their faith community was accepting or not accepting them. And that's so powerful.

SPEAKER_00: 21:10

That story really stuck with me as well that her congregation had organized to help her get to the clinic. I think I don't remember where it was, but it was in like I think Kentucky the South somewhere, and they had to go all the way to New Mexico. And yeah, her congregation had organized to help them. And they they knew why they were going. This was like a a thing that they just wanted to support. So yeah, that really stuck with me as well.

Jennie: 21:34

I think one of the other things I really loved in your book is one of the things that like you so often get caught up in the work that you forget to take that step back, and you talk about dreaming of like what a world would look like that was like unapologetically pro-abortion. And that was so beautiful. I really loved it because I get caught in the day-to-day.

SPEAKER_00: 21:54

Yes. It's so, I mean, it's just it's depressing day to day, you know. But our our movement is so vibrant and creative and resilient. And I that's so beautiful to me. It's so energy energizing to me to like be with other people who are like, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna do this anyway. Like, we will support our people no matter what. We will always help each other. So yeah.

Jennie: 22:17

I feel like you've already touched on this, but like, what are your hopes for for the book?

SPEAKER_00: 22:23

My hopes are that it can get ahead of the shame and stigma, so that it can meet young people before they've internalized, perhaps before they've internalized all the shame and stigma. So I think this book could be, you know, a part of sex ed. I think it could be a really important part of sex ed because in my personal sex ed, I don't remember anybody talking to me about abortion. I remember watching a birth video in seventh grade and that really being it. Um, so I I hope that we don't have to wait until 40 years later when we've already felt this shame for so long. I hope that we can get ahead of that. But I also hope that it reaches people who had abortions 40 years ago and have felt this shame the entire time. Um, and that it can make that feel less heavy, less heavy for them. I hope the book won't be needed. And, you know, my dream, 50 years people will be like, wow, that's really sad that they need to be able to do that. Somebody had to write this book. Yeah, exactly. I I hope it's unnecessary in the future. But I mean, we will always have abortions. There's nothing wrong with having an abortion, so it will always, it will always be necessary. But I hope the the stigma, the shame piece falls by the wayside because we definitely we definitely don't need it. It's harmful for all pregnant people.

Jennie: 23:36

Yeah, again, the like tackling the shame and stigma like head on, like the there's no right or wrong reason to have an abortion. Like your reason is the reason and like full stop.

SPEAKER_00: 23:48

Yes. All we need to do is support other people. All we need to do is say, I support people who have abortions, and I'm willing to help however I can. That's all you need to do. So powerful. Again, so simple, but so powerful. It is, it's so simple. It's so it's I don't know. People like to talk about this topic as being niche, like my book is being niche, and it's like one in four people who can be pregnant will have an abortion in their lifetime. That's that's not niche, like by definition, that's not niche. Um, so yeah, I guess my other dream is to have the book be in the mainstream consciousness and not just, you know, pigeonholed as something that applies to, you know, this very small group of people in this very small set of circumstances when we know that that's not true. All kinds of people have abortions in all kinds of sets of circumstances, um, and we all deserve support um without judgment.

Jennie: 24:37

And again, that like shame and stigma part of like saying it's niche, people feel alone and feel like they can't talk to people. And so you just like really the bust that wall down and like no.

SPEAKER_00: 24:50

It kills me. I'm taking it down. Yes. Yeah. No, nobody's gonna feel alone on my watch. And that that is the motivator for writing the book for me because I did feel so isolated and alone when I had my abortion um as a college student. You know, I I could have told my friends they would have supported me. Like I know that now, but at the time I was just so afraid of what people would say to me or if they would tell other people or or all of that. And I I don't want other people to feel like that, obviously.

Jennie: 25:20

It's so so earlier, I guess not earlier this year, later last year, we had an episode talking about periods and how that is again like we don't talk about periods that was particularly focused on period pain, like all of these things that so then you just you feel alone in your suffering or in dealing with whatever emotions you're dealing with. And she was talking about research showing just like just talking about it makes it less. Which like yeah. So she was talking about like groups getting together to talk about like period pain and stuff, and like just having the conversation made the pain feel less.

SPEAKER_00: 26:06

Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah, I love that. And that's yeah, that's definitely true here. Um, even just sharing your story with someone else or listening to someone else's story can be very, you know, healing. Even if you know the actual experience of the abortion was okay for you, you might still internalize a lot of the shame and have that um to get through, even if the actual experience you're sure about the the choice you feel good about it. And I I was sure about my choice. I I never wavered on that, but I still experienced all of that shame, you know, regardless of knowing that it was the right thing for me.

Jennie: 26:43

It's just out there so much in the ways that it is talked about in the media and like in TV shows and movies, like it's just part of our culture. And I love to see the ways that it there's been a real pushback on that in the last, I don't know, decade plus of like people really telling their stories, the groups that are organizing to get more stories out there so that you're not just hearing particular types of stories from particular people, right? And so can again busting down that stigma of like good abortions, bad abortions, and it's just your abortion story. Yeah, I love that. Okay, so I usually wrap up the episode asking what can people do to get involved, but I'm gonna tweak it a little bit this time. And how can our audience support their friends through an abortion? You had so much great stuff for the person, but you also had a little bit on how to support people.

SPEAKER_00: 27:41

Absolutely. So the first thing that you can do is you can remember the website ineedana.com, because if you know anyone that needs access to abortion care, if you ever end up needing access to abortion care yourself, that is a great resource to access high-quality information that is updated regularly. Second, you could read my book, The Abortion Companion, um, because I have a section where I tell you these are some things that you can do to support your friend who is having an abortion. So I'm gonna turn to the page so I can find it. It is called How to Support Someone You Love. So I say people often ask me how they can best support um their loved ones. Um you might be afraid to overstep, say the wrong thing, or that you'll do something that isn't actually helpful. From my experience, talking to people who have had abortions, simply showing up goes a long way. Um, and don't be afraid to ask them directly what they need. But then, you know, if you don't want to ask, I have a list of things um that you can do. So the first is affirm their decision, whatever it is, help them figure out the best option for care and the logistics needed to make it happen. Be a personal assistant, help make appointments, draft emails, respond to texts, run errands, pick up prescriptions, um, send them memes, that kind of stuff, clean things, do a load of laundry, be a safe place for big and sometimes complex feelings. This one actually happened to me, so this is personal reassure them that you respect their privacy and will not share their experience without their consent. Because I personally, someone shared my abortion experience before I was ready to talk about it, before I'd really talked to anyone about it. And that was very hurtful for me. So that's just something I like, I like to add. Um, but providing childcare, but ultimately just being there with them. So whatever that looks like in your relationship, you know, that looks like different for everybody. But just being an affirming presence is often, you know, just really, really helpful for people sitting on the couch next to them.

Jennie: 29:36

I have been a big fan of like sending friends who are not in the area, like Grubhub gift cards or yes, yes, delivery.

SPEAKER_00: 29:44

Yes, absolutely. Contactless delivery. Yes, some people don't want to talk to people during something difficult. I'm one of those people, I'm like honestly, like I just want to, you know, be in my room by myself. Can you leave this stuff on the porch? Um, so that is always an option as well. Don't feel like you have to be out there in in the world if you feel like you need some space as well. Yep. Kitty pictures, random videos, silly whatever's. Yes. Absolutely. TV show recks. If you didn't find one in the book, so many things you can do.

Jennie: 30:15

Well, I know one thing everybody should do, and that is go to bookshop.org and buy the abortion companion, or go to your favorite local bookstore and buy abortion companion. Becca, it was so lovely to talk to you today.

SPEAKER_00: 30:28

Thank you so much. This was wonderful. Oh, and join my book swap. That's the other thing. I think we talked about it earlier.

Jennie: 30:34

Yes, for sure. I need to do that. I haven't done that yet. And so not you. And make sure to follow. Oh, yeah. And make sure to follow The Sweet Feminist on social. Thank you. Yes. And you can see lovely baked goods with generally a pro-abortion message on them. Okay, y'all. I hope you enjoyed my conversation with Becca. I had such a great time talking to her about her new book. It just came out today, so go buy it. And also, I also really recommend her cookbook, Baking by Feel. So make sure to check that one out as well. And with that, I will see everybody next week. If you have any questions, comments, or topics you would like us to cover, always feel free to shoot me an email. You can reach me at Jenny, J-E-N-N-I-E at ReprosfightBack.com, or you can find us on social media. We're at Reprosfight Back on Facebook and Twitter, or Repros F B on Instagram. If you love our podcast and want to make sure more people find it, take the time to rate and review us on your favorite podcast platform. Or if you want to make sure to support the podcast, you can also donate on our website at reprosfightback.com. Thanks, all.