What happens when you take a super fan of Netflix's The Circle, put them on the show, and watch them take home the crown? That's exactly what we explore in this captivating episode with season four winner, Frank Grimsley! From quitting his job and betting everything on winning the competition to navigating the dating pool as a gay black man in the DMV area, Frank's journey is truly inspiring.
Join us as we dive into the challenges Frank faced and overcame throughout his time on The Circle, as well as his experiences with the show's application process. We also discuss the importance of communication in relationships, and how Frank's parents' deaths and uncles' absence shaped him into the fearless risk-taker he is today. Plus, learn about Frank's aspirations to transition into scripted series and hosting TV shows, and his excitement over attending his first gay pride event.
This conversation with Frank Grimsley is not one to miss – so tune in and get ready to be inspired by his incredible journey from super fan to Netflix star, and everything in between. As a bonus, we also touch on the challenges faced by the LGBTQ+ community in media representation and the importance of cherishing every moment in life. Don't miss out on this amazing episode with the one and only Frank Grimsley!
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What happens when you take a super fan of Netflix's The Circle, put them on the show, and watch them take home the crown? That's exactly what we explore in this captivating episode with season four winner, Frank Grimsley! From quitting his job and betting everything on winning the competition to navigating the dating pool as a gay black man in the DMV area, Frank's journey is truly inspiring.
Join us as we dive into the challenges Frank faced and overcame throughout his time on The Circle, as well as his experiences with the show's application process. We also discuss the importance of communication in relationships, and how Frank's parents' deaths and uncles' absence shaped him into the fearless risk-taker he is today. Plus, learn about Frank's aspirations to transition into scripted series and hosting TV shows, and his excitement over attending his first gay pride event.
This conversation with Frank Grimsley is not one to miss – so tune in and get ready to be inspired by his incredible journey from super fan to Netflix star, and everything in between. As a bonus, we also touch on the challenges faced by the LGBTQ+ community in media representation and the importance of cherishing every moment in life. Don't miss out on this amazing episode with the one and only Frank Grimsley!
This show is sponsored by @bubbledgalorme #1 soap lady of the dmv
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I don't know what you're saying. I'm by you. Other than that, i would not be driving out here. I'm just saying you come home in the cage though Ain't nothing up on my board. But yeah, i don't even want to talk to nobody that lives out here, because I'm never coming up here. You got a sample size. No, That's a full bottle. I think the most expensive fragrance I have is $400. And I bought that by accident. How?
Speaker 2:the hell. It's a boy to devil king your favorite Leo Fleaky eyebrows just not today.
Speaker 1:That is not what you said in the first scene Hey now. I need a little touch up. This is your show.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, Touch up, But I have the amazing Frank Grimsley here. You would know him from. I'm not going to say your attributes. I think you got it in the country accent.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, my name is Frank. I won a season four of the circle on Netflix And I recently starred in Netflix's How to Get Rich, Frank do you consider yourself famous? Not at all.
Speaker 2:I went back and had my people go back from before you was on the circle, Really. So when you won the circle I said, oh, this is a different man Different, different, different, just a little bit. Why are you on? because you're so famous right now.
Speaker 1:Because I mean, I grew up in a small town in Alabama. I'm really, i will talk to any bride, and I've always been that way. So, nothing is really different. It's just that more people want to have conversations, and I love to have conversations.
Speaker 2:So you saying the Netflix checks didn't change you?
Speaker 1:No, not at all. Not at all. I mean, i feel like once I get to like Viola Davis status then, you might have to talk to me nice but I'm not there yet. So you know, my people support me and without them I would not be where I am. So who am I to feel famous?
Speaker 2:Did you move up from the South up here to do content creation, or you was doing it down there?
Speaker 1:No, I actually moved up here to go to grad school at Harvard University.
Speaker 2:Oh you, okay, I hit you.
Speaker 1:So I got my master's in social work. I did social work for about three years, up until it was time for me to go to the show And I quit my job. And when I came back from the show I had about six months left of work before the end of the school year. So after that school year I decided I wasn't going back.
Speaker 2:So when you went to this show, did you? you banked everything on winning. The dev was that was the end of it all. Yeah, frank, i'm a risk taker. That was a risk When I was seeing you. I remember I first watched it when I was dealing with somebody. At the time I was like I fucking like him. Frank is the guy. So tell people, how does that work? Did you know what the show was going to be about? or you just showed?
Speaker 1:up. Well, i was a super fan, so I watched it from season one, and from season one I always said that I would be on the show or that I wanted to be on the show, and I was like, okay, well, they already did season one. I don't know if they're going to really do a season two. So season two came out and I was like, well, hold on now. Y'all didn't got a season two and they all still ain't called me. So then I started I think I tweeted about it, which they actually put my tweet up in how they announced the winner on social media And, yeah, season three came out and I was like, okay, you wanted to.
Speaker 2:You was a super fan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like from jump. So, season three came out, i was like I'm about to figure this out. So, I started like trying to figure out putting. I'm a, i can find anything if I can't find it my best friend can find it.
Speaker 1:Oh, you wanted that. Yeah, so I was like Googling the producers production company. It was on a LinkedIn. Yeah, i was on everything. I was sending them messages. I was like, hey, i was sending them videos of me in the club with like bottles. I was like I'd be a good fit for the show, right, they never saw it. So one day I actually was scrolling on my page and I saw the application came up as an ad and I said, god, god, we hear because I and I started application.
Speaker 1:When I say that application is long, it's so long. So I started and I had been like I'm a big procrastinator, oh, come on now. So I've been putting shit off. This was your dream I could kiss. Yeah, fuck him. So I was in the sitting there one day and I was on the phone on the way to work one day and I was telling my friend I was like something's telling me to like put this application in today. And so I got to work. I was just twiddling my thumbs, not doing that, scrolling on Instagram, not putting in the application, not doing no work. And I scrolled on my phone and I saw it again. I was like, okay, let me finish right now.
Speaker 2:Stop playing with the universe now, yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like, okay, i was on and did my like video portion of the interview process or the application process in my little office And I think I left work that day around like one o'clock and I went to Marshall's because I was going to get me some candles. And soon as I walked in Marshall's I got a text from one of the producers and she said I just saw your tape. I love you. When can you talk?
Speaker 2:Did you scream? I screamed in Marshall's.
Speaker 1:I said what the fuck? Already Quick Jesus. But see, that's why I always tell people, when you, when you feel in your spirit, you better move, because it's your spirit is telling you it's time I could have missed my mark.
Speaker 2:You could have missed your mark.
Speaker 1:She could have been off work if I did that two o'clock.
Speaker 2:And you did it. I did it. When you went there, you went by yourself, right. What made you want to do that? Because a lot of people do not do that.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I think that well, to a few reasons, I feel like there's nobody else in the world like me. That's just Peter Point Blank. I'm not being arrogant.
Speaker 2:Talk to shit Go ahead.
Speaker 1:I'm just an individual personality. I don't know anybody else like me. Representation there's never been a black, plus size gay male on that type of show. There's none.
Speaker 2:There were gays there now, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's okay, there have been gay people that were on the show, but nobody like me still, and definitely not no fat black man. It was one girl along there, i think season one. She went in. She was a plus size woman but she catfished And I'm just like I love her. But I felt like that kind of pushes the narrative that we're not enough. And I know I'm enough. In any space I go into I know I'm more than enough. So I knew that I don't have to go in here and play a catfish. I can kill this shit myself And you did. I ate that, didn't I? You ate the fuck out of it.
Speaker 2:I was like what A lot of people want to know. Are the cameras always rolling? Do you never see anyone else?
Speaker 1:No, i mean. so here's the thing The cameras are always rolling When you go to the bathroom. The cameras in the bathroom, well, the cameras everywhere, usually like on the roof, so they will tilt the cameras up when you go to the bathroom. But other than that, the cameras are always rolling. You have wellness checks where people will come in if you need to take a walk. So taking a walk is literally me walking from here to there and going into another apartment complex and it's a balcony there And I can get fresh air. That's it, and then my walk is back. So, yeah, it's not, you can't go. I can't just go down the hallway. When I get ready, i have to say, hey, i need to go take a break.
Speaker 1:And they'll be like okay, somebody's on the way, Somebody might take an hour or somebody might take two minutes.
Speaker 2:How long was the whole thing from start to finish?
Speaker 1:Start to finish. the whole process was five weeks, but I went during COVID So we couldn't just go and go straight into filming. but if you start the game and finish the game, you're in the game for two weeks. What a lot of people don't realize is how the game really works.
Speaker 1:Usually, the person that's the first influencer does not go on to win the game Even the producers, if you were ever to talk to anybody over there they were like because I went into the game, i'm big on manifestation And I told everybody for I told myself once I got off that plane, everybody I came into contact with drivers, producers, anybody I met. I was telling them I'm here to play the game, the circle, because it's big over there. So all the drivers in these Mercedes. Benz that was like, oh, you're going to play the circle And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to win, And that was like okay.
Speaker 2:And I'm going to win.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, producers, i was like, yeah, i'm going to win, like I told everybody, everybody. And they were invested as the game kept going. because I literally was, i was ranked number one the first time I was like how you just said, if you rank number one, you getting a body. And then the next time I was ranked third, I never ranked any lower the rest of the game.
Speaker 2:Right, you gonna pop your shit. I mean, i'm just, saying I asked you what you the best. He said I mean I ain't never going to pass to you.
Speaker 1:But I'm just saying, but I mean I think it just goes to show, not that I'm better, but it's all power in the tall And I think I showed everybody over there that dang. He really said it And I think I'm the representation of if he can say it and it actually happened like I can do that, I can do it and apply it to whatever I'm going through, Like if you want a new job, you can get it.
Speaker 2:Speaking of tools That's all you got, Dude. people don't want to put that work in. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think, i think that's what makes my, my win different. And I didn't play dirty, you didn't. I was very, you know, cute, classy, based. I didn't cuss nobody out, you didn't. Even when people try to throw salt on my name, we ain't going to name names, let you know. So I mean, but I think I, i was the same person through and through.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I think that's what makes me a different winner, because people were like, oh, he's portraying to be this person And all my friends at home was like he's really, that's who he is That's his, that's him. Everybody I meet in the streets. They was like, oh my God, you're the same as you were in the game. And I'm just like, yeah, bitch, i can't play like that, I can't fake, i ain't fake, i can't play around like that.
Speaker 1:Like for two weeks. Like you, i feel like. That is that's why I was telling people being a catfish is harder, because you have to portray to be somebody that you're not all day long, and that's draining. That's why I didn't go in with no whole lot of gameplay or notebooks. Nope, i was just myself.
Speaker 2:And you made it work. Yeah, What did you cause? I got a question. My name was Kim.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Kim wanted to know what was your first big purchase once you won.
Speaker 1:My first big purchase I had to pay off. My first big purchase was me paying people back because when I went to the circle I didn't have no money. You went there, broke Frank, broke. I spent my last check Like I think. I left in like September and my best friend paid my rent, paid all the bills for me while I was gone.
Speaker 2:That's a friend.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and when I literally think about went going somewhere winning a game, you just want a whole bunch of money and you get your phone back and you got to take your friends and hey, can you give me $200? I can get something to eat in the airport, like, girl, what We just see you. So it's like when I even when I got back, i didn't have any money for like a month, We thinking this instinct No, no, it took like 30, 30 days to get the money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, was your tax retreat? going back and seeing what people said about you.
Speaker 1:No, that's my big card in the rule.
Speaker 2:You never launched a show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I never go back and look at. I think I went back one girl. She made a video about me and I wasn't watching it because she talked about me. I was just watching it to just see what people's general commentary was, And she just so happened to say that I was boring and I was just like girl, you're a hater. Ain't nobody ever told me I was born in Nethan, So I ain't no way You got a personality online.
Speaker 2:Did you keep that comment to yourself?
Speaker 1:Yeah, i did. I didn't respond. I don't respond to people like that because I feel like they want.
Speaker 2:people want to see that switch They want to see that switch And it's there.
Speaker 1:I operate. I tell my when my friend, we always talk about how we operate in the 90% but, the 10%. is there That?
Speaker 2:vicious 10%.
Speaker 1:But everybody can't get that, because why would I, why would I dig into that bag when it's not really necessary.
Speaker 2:But you know people, a lot of people, want to dig into that when they feel as though they disrespected it. Yeah, And you're like you know what?
Speaker 1:No, no, because you talking about me on your platform.
Speaker 1:And like I said, like I was talking to somebody and they were talking about how people From the second show a lot of people were making comments and I, like I said, i don't read comments. If somebody posts anything about me, i'll go in the comments and show love and once I put my comment like thanks or whatever, if it's funny Or if I'm saying thanks, i never go back to that post. So even like how you announced that I'm coming to your podcast, i'll probably comment it on it and never came back to it.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you. Let me tell you how Frank work right, i Sent this. Frank finally got back and I was like oh shit, never heard a word from Frank, ever When.
Speaker 1:Frank, what you, what you posted, that post, oh no, so like 10 people in your comments could attack me, i never would have thought I'm not going back in there.
Speaker 2:Do you check your DMs?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do. It'd be niggas in there.
Speaker 2:I want, i want ask, i want ask. And there's a guy here He said name, name is. He wants to know Are you single? I am. How did you maintain that?
Speaker 1:Uh well, i mean the dating pool for a man. Then the DMV is trash Yeah, dmv is trash dating pool for men that are my size. Trash then dating people that I'm not no super masculine guy, so My dating pool is small when you say also don't take shit.
Speaker 1:Well, you say dating a guy like you, what that mean? Oh well, i mean if you. if we're being honest, the DMV area, um, especially for gay, for black gay men, is very pretentious. Everybody walks around with muscles. If I go out to the club tomorrow, it would probably be two or three other guys in there that are my size, mm-hmm in the, in the clicks I run in. Do you like masculine?
Speaker 2:I mean real muscular guys.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't. I don't have a particular preference. My thing is like you need to treat me well And so it's the same standard for male or female, just treat me good Yeah. Oh, a lot of those people like they'll. They're not used. It's not typical For them to date someone like me, and it's also not typical because there's not a lot of people up here That are gay. In fact, if they are, they may not be going to the club or not going to the places I'm going to you give Hefty.
Speaker 2:whatever you want to call it, you got a sexy to it.
Speaker 1:I know, because I say I said okay you you like your body.
Speaker 2:Oh, a lot of people with white t-shirt it out, you just like.
Speaker 1:Wait, I get this stomach kid a little bit more. I always have my stomach flatter and my ass Battle, and once I get it right how I want to, oh yeah you know what you were probably good on.
Speaker 2:Would you go on the bad boys club?
Speaker 1:Absolutely not.
Speaker 2:Why not.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't even host that show No shade. I think they're different. I get people come up to me all The time in the club. Even last weekend It was prior I can't tell you how many gay black men came up and thanked me and said Thank you for representing us on TV in a positive light. And I don't think I'm a bad boys. Let's be clear. My guilty pleasure is Zeus.
Speaker 2:So your guilty pleasure is Zeus, but you are not going to do a bad boys club. No, do you not like how they're all? because I, when I first started watching it and I say I probably started watching it two weeks ago I thought we just gay men having a good time doing anything. It's not all gay men on this show.
Speaker 1:No, it's not. I think Prince is on there. I land on, brown is all he's so funny on it, oh, i love. Well, i want to meet him.
Speaker 2:So bad like he is so funny. So you say you got an audience and the Zeus is just not it.
Speaker 1:I don't think so. I think like I'm not, because, like I said, i Operated 90% positive energy, but the 10% is there and I feel like they somebody on there would take me to that 10% And I crazy to see you out of 10% Yeah and I mean no shade, no shade to them. They give me money or I respect it. I will go out with all of them as long as there's no cameras around.
Speaker 2:She said just gotta be ready.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i mean I like to get lit, turn up and stuff, but I have to be cognizant because, as somebody that works, i work. I'm John St Basterdere for the rest of this year.
Speaker 2:Talk your shit, frank.
Speaker 1:What I'm a little like.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to get Apple and I'm being hoes inside the head with bottles on the TV. Like that don't work. Like McDonald's is not gonna want to work with me, no more, no, no, like I. So I think about all of that, like who I am as a person is how I pay my bills. So I have to think about all of that. So it's no shade to them, but they make their money in their respect, the ways and I have to make my money. My, my brand is my, me.
Speaker 2:You all your brand. Coming from a use the therapist you said right, coming from that to going to the show, to getting these brand deals, do you feel like you changed at all? because Frank before the show versus Frank after the show are totally two different people?
Speaker 1:well, you know, not really, Because I was creating content before I got on the show just because you had a purpose well, i had a purpose. I always knew that I could get here. Hmm, i just didn't know how. So I always set out and had the vision, because I seen other people around me doing it And I've always, like, posted my outfits back in the day, you're a lot more high school. I would, i would do the. you remember the? look three collages Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:I would have my watch in one collage, my braces in one collage, my shoes and another, and then the outfit on the long one, and so I always put stuff together. So when I got to college I noticed I was like plus-sized women, like they're They're making money, like. I started following. Instagram started popping. I started following these plus-sized women.
Speaker 1:I'm like they making money like they out here, and so then I was like I started seeing Guys make money but I didn't see nobody that looked like me making money And I was like no shade to them, but I just better than all them and I was like hold up. So at that point I was like that's. When I changed my name on Instagram, i was like this has to become. I have to become a brand. My name used to be I've been Frank 11 and I changed it to Frank in the city because I had Frank, in the city is so much not my space.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Listen, frank 11. It's crazy. It's crazy. All them numbers and stuff.
Speaker 2:So, with all that being said, i Know from my research on you that you lost your parents young. So how was that? Who did you go to at a young age?
Speaker 1:Oh Well, i lost my dad when I was five. It was just me and my mom up until I was 14, when I I have Four uncles. What had four uncles to pass away? Um, so one of my uncles was living with me. My other uncle like took guardianship over me And yeah, i kind of, i mean I took, i tell people all the time like I have to support my grandparents, like everything. But as far as I think, everything I learned At 14 up until 14. I feel like that was what was like okay, well, here you go, that's it. Yeah, cuz my mom was the one that was savvy She had the office manager job, like she was, and my aunt, who did not stay around us, she was a big-time professor. So my, my mom and my aunt were the ones that was like about to business, like keep everybody in.
Speaker 1:Check right but my aunt didn't stay around us. So, yeah, like I think it was just a Okay. Well, i feel like God said okay, i'ma bring, i'ma take her back now, cuz you, you got enough to make it and what happened at 14. Oh, it was. It was Which is why it catapulted me into going therapy, because being a therapist, because I needed a therapist that I did not have, so I just had like anger issues, my grades got bad, i got kicked out of band and bam was like my thing.
Speaker 2:You got the typical Yes, yeah, so it was.
Speaker 1:it wasn't terrible, but It just wasn't like a regular childhood anymore, even like, even like when I moved our way to go to college, like I moved myself to college. every single time I went, um, yeah, so it was just, and I don't think it was because My family didn't want to support me. I think they just didn't know what I needed, and as a child I didn't know what I needed either. So they didn't have any other kids. I think one of my uncles had a kid that went out to college. But yeah, it was like I had been doing everything by myself, so it was like I can move myself, like it's fine.
Speaker 2:So do you feel like that independence stuck?
Speaker 1:with you Absolutely, and it's still with me today.
Speaker 2:You talk about how you moved yourself to college, pretty much started raising yourself. Then it makes me think about the time when you just said oh yeah, i just went to the circle, i was poor. You take gambles on yourself the way. I've never seen people take gambles on themselves. It's insane.
Speaker 1:I moved up here with $1,000 in my account. I set up my best friend's couch for four months.
Speaker 2:Frank, what pursues you to want to take such risk.
Speaker 1:I think if you don't take risk you don't get big rewards. I want big rewards, So I have to take big risks.
Speaker 2:Oh, you used to get the big rewards.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I think that's why you do it. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:You're like, let's go and work. Look at me going on the circle. What if I there is a percentage, there's a large percentage of the population that would have told me, no, you need to cause my job told me I had to quit The job that I had been in school for for two years and got all this student loan debt, the career that I worked for.
Speaker 1:I always said that I wanted to be a school social worker. So when they told me I had to quit my job the job that I loved for the kids, not for the people- It's almost for the kids Yeah. So a lot of people would have been like, no, don't go.
Speaker 2:Don't go.
Speaker 1:Like you're going to lose everything. Like what if you go over there and don't win? But Did that ever cross your mind? No, i think the only it crossed my mind. But once I got on the plane, when my best friend was dropping me off at the airport to go to the circle, he was like all right, this is it. Like you don't need to come back over here If you didn't win, cause you're not going to come back to nothing. You're not coming back to nothing. And so I knew in my head, like I said God, if you just cause, everything happened, like the job, stuff.
Speaker 1:And even when you go to the circle, a lot of people don't know that there are people that go to the circle that you never see in the game And you will never know that they went over there to play the circle, cause they never make it into the game. So you could have went and I would never know because you don't make it into the game. They pick about 30 people. Cause what if I get over there and get sick and I'm supposed to go in first? they need to pull one more person. They have to have people ready to play. Oh, that'd be crazy. So you don't even know when you go over there, if you're actually going to even get in the game What you got in, and I finally that out, had to quit my job. My grandfather died like two days before I had to go to the circle. So it was either I had to choose between going to the circle or going home to his funeral, And I said my grandfather will want me to go.
Speaker 2:You make it tough. You were sitting like you used to making these tough decisions.
Speaker 1:That would have broke people, it tore me apart. It was like crazy, but I said after all that that, if I said God, if you just get me there, we can do the rest. And so when I got there, i was, like we here now, like we're here now, this gonna happen. That shit was scarce for it, though. It was so scarce.
Speaker 2:Who taught you how? Come and ask your question. Coming from a straight man in the straight community, is it innate that a lot of gay men know how to dress their asses off? Who taught you how to? Because you were saying it. You taught yourself how to style young.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Did you come from influences or you just?
Speaker 1:No well, i mean my mom. She had to wear scrubs during the week, but I remember vividly like we would go to like the mall at least twice out of the month And I would just sit in the dressing room and watch her pick our clothes And I always thought it was fascinating how she would put stuff together And I would never meant she. I'll never forget like she used to have this book because she was plus size And they didn't have a lot of plus size stuff in the stores. So she would go through the book and she would pick out the stuff that she want And she would circle it with a green marker And she would say here, go back in and circle the stuff you like, and so some of our stuff will overlap And if we both picked the same thing, she would get it.
Speaker 1:I'll never forget she got these pink thigh high boots with this pink sweater It was like had ostrich feathers or some shit on it And a pink hat. It was like extra Like. If you look at my mom's old pictures, it's like OK, like I get it So like seeing her pick out that stuff.
Speaker 1:I was like I can't wait, so it's my turn, because I'm going to eat it And you did, and I think a lot of people. It's kind of like my expression, like my nails are my expression. So if I'm feeling like a little edgy, i might get a little like I got a little static going on right now. But if I'm like calm, i might just get a plain set, like I feel chill today. So I wore a chill fit. So it's just all about mood And I feel like you're. I feel like what, before you even open your mouth, your clothes, your appearance speaks for yourself.
Speaker 2:You know a lot of people. We were talking because we both know Ashley. We were talking about that And she was saying sometimes people want to judge you strictly off what you look like And that pride of you want to take me as I am does not work in all versions.
Speaker 1:No, not at all.
Speaker 2:It doesn't, and I feel like a lot of people, especially younger people, battle with oh, i want to be authentically me. All the time I haven't done anything, no one knows who I am, i'm just going to be authentically me. Is there a time?
Speaker 1:and place for that? Absolutely, I think so. I mean, I just went to Union Market the other day after leaving the gym And I had on sweat, sweat my cross.
Speaker 1:And my hair was scattered across my head And I ran into three people and they knew who I was. I still took pictures with them, but I definitely think it's a time and place for everything. I'm not at the place yet where I'm about to throw on a whole bunch of cute shit just to go on Target or the Dollar General or Dollar Tree. That's just not me. I will throw on some shorts and keep it pushing.
Speaker 2:If you need to step out, you want to step out.
Speaker 1:When it's time to step.
Speaker 2:I'm coming.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. I don't know who I'm going to see.
Speaker 2:Now.
Speaker 1:I'm going to still be decent when I go on these Targets Dollar General, because there might be some nicks in there. But I ain't about to pull out my good stuff because then I'm going to have to re-eyed And when I get ready to wear it again. It's too much work to be cute like that Cute outside.
Speaker 2:What does it take for a man to get with you Like? does he have to be famous? Could be a regular Joe.
Speaker 1:So how do people slide in your DMs? I mean just slide, but just know that I'm big on boundaries And But they don't know that if they don't never talk to you, yeah, but I'm letting them know, not They listen, ok. But I mean I think just be real And do not come at me. I hate when people are like, oh, you famous, you a celebrity, like I'm a regular person, treat me regular, don't be like I love you, like all that extra stuff, just want to get to know me, to get to know me, because, especially as someone on the other end of that, i'm always questioning OK, what are your intentions? Every time I meet somebody or somebody size of my DM, are you really interested in talking to me? Or are you trying to see, like, if you can get me because I have this status And so I don't have time for the extra shit And I don't like repeating myself? So if I tell you I don't like something once and you do it again, i'm done.
Speaker 2:How long you been single bro.
Speaker 1:Oh, a long time. But you hard on the middle here, man I am, but I also know what I bring to the table. You ever got your heart broken before? Absolutely.
Speaker 2:What was last time?
Speaker 1:This nigga just pissed me off last week. I can't. I thought you said you were single. I am single, but they still be pissing me off Because you will tell somebody something and they will.
Speaker 1:You will be vulnerable with people and share things in the effort to get to know them, because I don't never want to meet nobody and they'll be like, oh, you're closed off, you don't share. So you share all this stuff with people, what you don't like. And then they turn around and do the stuff that you said you don't like, that somebody else did. And to me that shit just pisses me off Because I would keep it a book, like if I fuck with you on Thursday and then I wake up Friday and I decided I don't want to fuck with you no more. Just randomly that's not what I would do.
Speaker 2:But I'm just saying, that's petty.
Speaker 1:No, but people do that Like. people will switch up on you quickly. But people will switch up on you quickly and not be open and honest about it and keep it a book, and I just don't like that. Like, if something changes, tell me, just tell me. Like I just don't. You know what I'm saying. I just think that that is. I'm big on communication And I think a lot of people are not, and I'm just I'm an Aries, so I call bullshit when I see bullshit.
Speaker 2:You are Aries, A hot headed Aries man. Y'all fuck people until you get mad. Yeah, Y'all fuck this fucking shit.
Speaker 1:Y'all get mad And it take a lot to make me mad, but when I'm mad like it's a wrap And I just feel like I operate, like I said earlier, and then 90% of positivity and all that. So like once I am interacting with somebody and my peace of mind has shifted, i feel like you should be adding to not taking away.
Speaker 2:You've posted something on your social media and I wanted that because I didn't want to watch it. What do you call?
Speaker 1:it HSV Hydrating, not a Super Artiva, yeah what is? that. So Hydrating Not a Super Artiva is a condition that basically your body kind of is inflamed. You can get bulge, you can get cysts in the folded areas on your body. So it's something that mom struggled with. I didn't know that she struggled with it until I started struggling with it And I struggled with it for a long time. I still do Like I just had a flare up, like Did you know what it was when it started happening?
Speaker 1:No, And the first time I went to, the first time I got the confidence to go to the doctor about it because it's really like So like armpits, thighs, you know Yeah, mine is under these titties, and so it's just so. It was like embarrassing because like I'm already fat, i ain't supposed to have titties. I got these dog titties and all this shit going on up under them Like I don't want to go to the doctor. And the first time I went to the doctor, the lady How old were you when you went? I was 19.
Speaker 1:I started getting, i started noticing them at 16, 17. And the lady was like, oh, i don't know what it is, but hold on. And she called every doctor, every nurse into the room and had them like looking and poking, offering them to say they don't know what it was. And that was just so embarrassing for me to like actually get that confidence up to go. So I never went back. And then I finally went to someone up here and they told me immediately, from me talking, that I knew exactly what it was.
Speaker 2:Hold on, wait a minute. How long was the gap between them?
Speaker 1:Oh, it was a long gap, but I learned how to just deal with it.
Speaker 2:So when it deals with like it's just inflates, just bumps under your titties, Yeah, but I can get.
Speaker 1:You can have a. I can get one under my titties. I can get. I used to get them on my side really bad. I got one on my side one time, like the size of a tennis ball And but I used to. I had learned how to. It was so bad And if you have hydrodionitis please do not do this. But you didn't.
Speaker 1:But, I didn't have insurance, so I had to learn. I went on YouTube and started learning how to like pop it myself. I would burn a safety pin and disinfect it with alcohol and pop it myself, like who the fuck is. It had to be so bad. I think I went to the hospital one time, and that's when it was so bad that it was getting bigger, but it hadn't came to a head yet, so I couldn't pop it. So I had to go get them to lance it And my friend had to take me to the hospital. I had to get in her car and like with my arm up, because anytime I go like this it was bad.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so is this something that can be curious, something that can be spreaded?
Speaker 1:No, it's not curious, you can't spread it. It's not curable, though, but I do take a monthly injection to keep the Keep me, not Keep my body not inflamed. Okay, so it's mild. Now the titties are fine. For all the men that are wondering, the titties are fine. But yeah, it's like it moves, though It's real weird.
Speaker 1:So it doesn't stay like one place, no, so like now, the medication that I'm on, when I start to run out, my face starts to break out. So if you see, like right here, that's why I have to make sure that I have a good face routine, a good esthetician.
Speaker 2:You know what That just brought up to me? Donald asked me.
Speaker 1:What Donald asked you.
Speaker 2:He said let me say, do you think you keep your skin clear Because being in a limelight well, the pressures of being in a limelight, or is it something that you wanted to do?
Speaker 1:Well, I've always had very bad acne. I've always had acne prone skin. I've been on acne. I've been fighting acne since the eighth grade. I'll never forget.
Speaker 2:You was a proactive kid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, You was a proactive kid, Bad boy, Damn, damn, damn. Yes, it was bad. Like I'll never forget In eighth grade, Cora Goshay. We're friends to this day. But I was standing on the outside of like the window and he wouldn't let me in. He was like come on, crunch bar. And that always stuck with me Always. So anytime I get a breakout now, I always think about Cora Goshay and be like fuck, I'm a crunch bar today, But no, I think yes and no. It's always something. I'm kind of a perfectionist. So I like my clothes to be right. I like my body to look a certain way. I want my hair cut every week. I want my face to look good Every week.
Speaker 2:Every week, That's money. He said every week How much your hair cuts right.
Speaker 1:Well, so my barber does these subscription things, so I pay for like six.
Speaker 2:You got a subscription bar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but this is why, If I go every week, my hair cut is like $65. Right But if I get the subscription and go every week, it equals out to $25 per hair cut.
Speaker 2:How much is the subscription?
Speaker 1:You pay for six months. It's like $600. It's like a bill.
Speaker 2:It makes sense Why y'all in the back making no other?
Speaker 1:shit $600?. But it saves me money And you get a hair cut for six straight months. Yes, every week.
Speaker 2:Wait a minute. Now I should start to make sense. It does Wait a minute. I could pay $600 and get a hair cut every goddamn day, And it equals out to $25 or $65 every week.
Speaker 1:Even if you go every other week and pay $65, i'm still coming out cheaper paying the $600. Because I'm paying anyway? Because I have, i'm shooting content, i have to have a hair cut.
Speaker 2:This is a fact.
Speaker 1:Like I can't. like I'm getting invited to stuff sometimes two days in advance. I can't just be like, oh, I ain't got no hair cut, I can't come.
Speaker 2:Because there might be money in the room. It's unacceptable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's a part of the upkeep.
Speaker 2:Somebody wants to know how do you go about getting brand deals. Is it the people you know? Is it your page? is your followers? How do people go about getting these deals?
Speaker 1:I think it's a combination. I think I kind of have a little leg up because people know who I am. But also it is my page, it is my content. I tell people all the time I'm not an influencer.
Speaker 1:I'm a content creator. I'm not posting a. I'm not posting a bar to a deli on and expecting 50 people to go by. I'm posting a bar to a deli on and making people be like, damn, that shit look good or damn. I want to try Like. I want to post the content and deli on, be like we want to pay him so he can make us like a commercial That's. that's my lane.
Speaker 2:Who told you this?
Speaker 1:Talked me this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nobody.
Speaker 1:It's my, it's my brain. Every campaign I do comes from my brain, and so I see it come. I see it in my head before I shoot it, and it usually comes to that I've seen the pictures.
Speaker 2:with your, with your liquor deals, I was like this motherfucker fly, Yeah Like.
Speaker 1:So it's a whole, it's a whole system.
Speaker 2:Do you have a team?
Speaker 1:No, it's just me, unfortunately.
Speaker 2:Is that by design? Because you're just such a perfectionist?
Speaker 1:No, i would love to have a team. I mean, i have a team of, like photographers and videographers that I work with and stuff like that. But as far as like management because management would be reaching out to like, say, i want to work with best buy Management would be finding ways to like, get me in contact with best buy, versus now, if I want to work with best buy, i have to figure out how to who I'm gonna reach out to.
Speaker 2:I mean, clearly that's your thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm not good at that, so I will sit around and wait. I'll be like God I don't know who to reach out to send them to me, and it happened just like that Sometimes. But we in a it's been interesting this season of life, but I'm it's taking them.
Speaker 2:Who's the most famous person in your phone, hmm?
Speaker 1:Probably Amber Riley, maybe. How did this connection come?
Speaker 2:She watched the circle, And so I commented on her.
Speaker 1:I commented on her page And she was. She said something like Oh my God, can we be friends? And I was like, oh my God, please don't play with me like that, cause I love Amber Riley. There will be no Frank Grimsley if there was no Amber Riley, and I want to make that very clear because growing up watching her own Glee being a, a woman that was plus eyes and black, and killing it Like big personality didn't give like.
Speaker 2:Her character was this person That time. if y'all remember Glee from her, it'd be on that at that time The way she would carry, I was like I can do that.
Speaker 1:I can, i can. If she can be on TV, i can be on TV. So when I commented back like we ended up doing lunch when I went to LA and I actually had on the same day, i'm sure she was on TV, i was like I'm not sure, when I went to LA and I actually had on the same damn shirt.
Speaker 2:Did you get starstruck? Have you ever even been starstruck?
Speaker 1:I don't think so.
Speaker 2:That's how you know you're supposed to be here.
Speaker 1:I mean, i mean to be honest, they really does feel like that to me, Like when I be in these spaces and places, everybody's like how does it feel? And I'm like. It feels normal. It feel like it took me a long time to get here and I'm still not where I want to be.
Speaker 2:But it feels normal. Do you know, maybe cause you've been here before the fame of the celebrity. A lot of people would say, oh, like you said, i'm just a regular person. It's not until you get around celebrities or you get there yourself that you realize that's what they do for work.
Speaker 1:But outside of that they are normal people Yeah, all the time, every single one of them. Yeah, just normal.
Speaker 2:This car is a right. I blew my mind once. I was like. I used to see you since I was like 17.
Speaker 1:You, just, you just regular, yeah, regular, i guarantee you. If you meet, if you go in the girl store, just so happen to run a JS Hilarious, she's a regular person, regular. She just so happened to be prepared in the starting.
Speaker 2:You got on how to get rich. She was the name, wasn't it? Did you seek that one out too?
Speaker 1:No, I actually got on how to get rich before the circle even came out.
Speaker 2:Now I'm not gonna say you're probably the luckiest man to come from down south.
Speaker 1:I'm blessed, i'm blessed, you're blessed. How Well so? the production company that produced the circle Cause I know you love credit cards. I'm doing better, though, with the credit cards. It's the other shit, it's the going out and getting that hooker. Listen, i'm the man in the tequila, but no. So what happened? and I just found this out myself When the show premiered, i had a meeting.
Speaker 1:I went to do a tour at Netflix and I was talking to somebody in talent And they were saying how they watched me on the show, cause they always watch the shows before they come out. They have to And they pushed, they are overcast and they was like, well, let's see, he might be a good fit for this show. So I went through the process of like interviewing and stuff, just like everybody else, and Ramit saw my tape or saw I guess they were probably recording and sending it back to him. He saw my finances and saw like me going out to the club and stuff. He was like, oh, i can tell he's a fun guy, he has to do it. So it wasn't even because I was on the circle, it was just because How much money do you spend frivously a month?
Speaker 2:Mmm, a month Like just going out Party Going out.
Speaker 1:Probably now not as much as I used to. I could go out and spend like I could used to when I was working. I would go out and spend like four or five hundred dollars on the weekend, like it was next week. Do you own every weekend. Sometimes You was a what the fuck? Yeah, what the fuck. But cause you know you go out and you wanna, you end up buying shots for everybody.
Speaker 2:I don't know that type of friend group.
Speaker 1:Well, listen, that's what kind of friends I got My friends be like oh well, this round on me And you don't wanna be the bitch that can't get around, So you gotta get around too. And then next thing you know, we going out to eat.
Speaker 2:That's like two thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 1:Yeah Yeah, but I have cut back severely. What's your guilty pleasure?
Speaker 2:Going out? Is it the vibe? Is it the people's getting drunk Frank? what is it?
Speaker 1:I think it is the social aspect of it.
Speaker 2:You're social for your lifestyle. Frank, What do you mean?
Speaker 1:But see, i work from home now So I don't go out. So anytime I'm You got a job, i mean I do content creating. that's my job. Oh, what's about to say you got a nine to five. No, but that's my life. So the weekend hit, when Friday hit, i'm ready to hit it, cause I been in the house all week. I ain't put on no clothes, i ain't spray no cologne, i ain't you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:You just been in the house, yeah, i just been in the damn house.
Speaker 1:So when it come Friday, i'm ready to hit it. I don't work that Monday through Thursday, oh well, i'm ready to get drunk. I'm ready to get that tequila, like I feel it, as soon as I leave here. It's Friday. If y'all don't know, I'm going to get me some Kiki As soon as I leave here, cause I feel it Like it's almost like my body is like tequila. Where is it? It's Friday.
Speaker 2:What turns you on a tequila? Huh?
Speaker 1:What happened? I used to be a vodka drinker. That's terrible for you. I hate that.
Speaker 2:You might as well like gin.
Speaker 1:Ooh, gin to make, you see. But I started drinking tequila cause I didn't have somebody brought that bottle. that night We were having like a house party and I drunk a whole bunch of it and I didn't feel drunk. And I woke up the next morning and I didn't feel a hangover. What's this brand go? What is this? I forgot what that was.
Speaker 2:Why the shit sound good as hell I forgot what that was.
Speaker 1:That was like two years ago. But I never liked tequila. I always said it tastes like grass.
Speaker 2:Cause I was drinking. I was drinking.
Speaker 1:Jose Cuevo.
Speaker 2:Stop playing with me right now. You ever drink Jose Cuevo Gold? Yeah, will get you fucked. Listen, i drank a double. I will finally tell this story. Jose Cuevo was the middle of COVID. I had a cookout. I was living crazy. I me, my mom and another person had double shot glasses. I said let's see how much tequila we can drink. I drank 40 shots of Gold.
Speaker 1:That's kinda insane. Listen, that's the first time I had. You should be glad you're here right now.
Speaker 2:Listen that's the first time I had prolapse.
Speaker 1:Frank, I ain't gonna lie My ass fell out, frank, uh-uh, you had the shit.
Speaker 2:My ass fell out. Frank, i shit it in my butt, hole Boosh.
Speaker 1:Uh-uh.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:I don't know nothing about that.
Speaker 2:You don't drink tequila, then Yeah, i do, but my booty hole ain't never fell out.
Speaker 1:You don't drink tequila. When I drink tequila, right, jesus, 40 shots here now. Uh-uh, no, sir, i'm not doing that. What is wrong with you? It was COVID 40 shots.
Speaker 2:What's your limit? What's your limit right now, shot? I mean, it just appears that I drink.
Speaker 1:Are we just doing shots or are we drinking other stuff? We can drink other stuff, boom. So, were you drinking other stuff? Yes, Like you was drinking mixed drinks. Can't have 40 shots. You're insane. You call me a risk taker.
Speaker 2:I'm here today.
Speaker 1:Jesus, how old are you? I'm 29. Jesus, how old are you? I just turned 30 in April.
Speaker 2:Oh, I turned 30 in two months.
Speaker 1:Yeah no, i would never do 40 shots of anything.
Speaker 2:Except because I was a party board.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I am too, but I think that's a bit insane.
Speaker 2:You ain't gotta judge me, okay, i don't know, You get your eyebrows dirty and I'm jealous because it look like you're hurt. I'm not, ooh.
Speaker 1:I can't do it. I can't do it. I'm a wax guy. Oh yeah, don't go.
Speaker 2:Don't go. I'm telling you Don't go That shit hurt.
Speaker 1:It's time for me to go back now And I hate going And she always be like you wait, you prolong it and it makes it worse. But I be prolonging it because it hurts so bad. Every time I lay down to get my eyebrows dirty, i be like this hurts worse than getting full. I'm not lying, oh my God, yeah, it's terrible. But, it be so pretty and they last so long.
Speaker 2:I can't get with it. I can't but hold on. Before we get out of here, i got some more people that want your attention. That's crazy, all these folks Oh, listen, man, let's see which one. You already answered most of them, but you were talking about, you know, loving your body and everything like that. Recently, you know, tragic situation happened with DC's kid's mom.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, ms Jackie L.
Speaker 2:Ms Jackie L for dying on the table, you know. Do you feel like that? Cause she was just getting a mommy makeover, so and so, so do you feel like that will, eva and hip will make people still go get mommy makeovers? Or you feel like now it's time Cause not like she went to a back alley spot, right? Do you feel like it's still the let it go, be yourself workout. Or you know still go.
Speaker 1:Well, first of all, condolences to DC young fly and.
Speaker 1:Ms Jackie L family, those babies That's just a lot. I think that I don't think I'm a person, that I don't think changing what you don't like is bad. I don't think changing what you don't like is a bad thing. I think some people in the past have shown themselves that they went too far with it, and some people go and go again. I think to me, mommy, makeovers have been very common before, even like the, the BBL boom, and people just want to get their body done just to make tweets, like people have always gotten small things done.
Speaker 2:It was small tweaks noses, legs, yeah, you know something like that.
Speaker 1:So they're super common. That's why they call them mommy makeovers. But I don't, i really don't know. I think that I definitely think it is a, i think it's definitely a wake up call. I mean, we don't, we still don't know if I mean I don't think from what I understand, i don't think it happened because it was post surgery where something happened. The details still haven't came out yet, but I think it is just a reminder that it really don't matter what, i don't care what surgery, you can go anytime you're going under Always a risk.
Speaker 1:There's a risk for everything, but I also you know what is everything has an assignment. I believe God's timing is impeccable. So everything for me. because I've lost so many people in life, i'm always like what am I supposed to learn from this one?
Speaker 1:And it and I think even even her, her, her passing. I took some time to say what should I learn from this? Like she's a public figure, she's a mom And I think what, what I'm taking from it is you know everybody, always, everybody has said, oh, how she was a great person and how her light was so bright And I think, just continue to be the light that I am in the world. It makes me want to be like you never know when it's your last time. And it doesn't mean she could have been skiing in Dubai And it just it was time. And I don't. I don't think it kind of like means that people shouldn't get mommy makeovers. I think it was just her time. And what can we learn from it?
Speaker 2:That's a fact, where do you have new coming out, frank Cause I. If you want to see this man, listen. I ain't gonna lie to you, virginia, you asked out, but you got Navy Yard Adams Morgan U Street cause he the fucks with the hooker.
Speaker 1:I might be. I might go to Virginia. What is over there? Caspy, they be going to Caspy. Right, i done been there. That's what a girl on Twitter said that she had got fucked up at Caspy. You remember?
Speaker 2:that. I remember that. Oh, that was bad.
Speaker 1:Listen, i said she was over the head bobbing.
Speaker 2:Do you be buying bottles? You're a bottle.
Speaker 1:It has to be an occasion.
Speaker 2:You're a sparkler, come on.
Speaker 1:It has to be an occasion. So I'm a firm believer. Like all my friends drink. So if six of us going out to the bar and we all gonna buy three or four drinks, why don't you gubble up a little bit?
Speaker 2:How does that conversation work with buying the bottle, who you know got the money? How does this conversation work?
Speaker 1:No, i mean so like we went to a regular as we went to. I went to the cafe two weeks ago.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And we sat down and they had the bottle prices on the table and the bottle was on like $200 and it was six of us, Oh shit. So it only ended up being like $30 per person And we had a whole bottle, took shots, two rounds of shots.
Speaker 2:Shit $30 for a whole bottle. We did.
Speaker 1:So why not? So in those cases, yeah, but am I going to the club every weekend to pop bottles? now, i think I'm kind of over that.
Speaker 2:Did you learn that when you got 30?
Speaker 1:What that? I'm over that, Yeah. Yeah, I mean special occasions Like I can't do everything, Like when you work for yourself and you don't. You don't get that consistency of a two week paycheck or however weekly, bi-weekly, you get paid. Entrepreneurship is a real hoe.
Speaker 2:She don't fuck back. No, she don't fuck back.
Speaker 1:She don't suck dick. No, so it's tough. So you have to just figure out what. I don't want to change my lifestyle up too much. But do I have to go out every weekend? No, like I'm not going out this weekend, i went out last weekend and had a ball, hey because it was more.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, so I spent way too much money. You did what you was supposed to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I mean, like I want to go out, it's Memorial Day weekend. I don't want to be like, oh I can't go here. I want to go out and have fun, but do I need to go out this weekend? Hell, no, i just went out last weekend and spent more than $500. Like you, got to sit your ass down.
Speaker 2:Let me ask you this With everything going on with Netflix and you expressing you as a part of the community, do you feel like cause, i don't, i feel like this is a normal thing. Do you feel like TV shows, netflix, things like that are pushing a more LGBT agenda than what they used to push? What?
Speaker 1:do you mean by agenda? So from what I know, about my homeboys.
Speaker 2:I don't know why I don't even have my homeboys, but from what I'm hearing, it's like oh, where there's always a guy kissing a guy, a girl kissing a girl. There's not a lot of heterosexual activities going on now And I was like, well, i don't have a problem with it, it's just these people existed. It happens. It was back then, when we were growing up. it was more of a taboo thing. It was still gay people and everything like that. It just wasn't publicized. But now a lot of people are feeling like it's pushed in our face constantly.
Speaker 1:Well, i mean, i think, what I would challenge those people. what I'll say is this it's always been happening, it just hasn't been on TV. So the same way that they feel about seeing a man kissing a man, to me I'm like I don't really care about seeing no man kissing a woman.
Speaker 2:That's not my thing It's the same thing. yeah, You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So when I have those conversations I've had this conversation before I say ask yourself how old you are, if you're 27,. How long have you been seeing men interacting on TV, kissing, and that's probably like what? two or three years Out of your whole life. Think about how now turn it to me. I'm 30.
Speaker 2:Think about how many times I've seen myself on the TV screen actually having those type of interactions You've been missing out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and to me, now we feel included, now we don't feel left out, now you know what I'm saying. You might see a nigga fucking a nigga, and you might see a bitch fucking a bitch, but see, they don't mind when the pussies be rubbing together, or you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying So.
Speaker 1:I don't understand, because it's happening. I think I don't think there's an agenda and I think, if there is an agenda, i think the agenda is that we have to be inclusive, because this shit is happening. At the end of the day, men are fucking men.
Speaker 2:And that's what it is, always have been.
Speaker 1:Women are fucking women and men are fucking women. Everybody fucking is fucking, and so if it's on TV, that's a part of real life. Like if we can watch Power Ghost and see, yeah, the brothers Yeah, you can see one brother fucking effing. Why we can't see Drew fucking Gordo? Why not? Why?
Speaker 2:not Because it's happening.
Speaker 1:It's happening, but I think it just goes back to that whole like that, the download life. Do you deal with men?
Speaker 2:who are down on it.
Speaker 1:Not in this stage of life.
Speaker 2:no, Okay, so now it's you gotta be out, you gotta be yourself.
Speaker 1:I wanna say you have to be out. But if we can't go out to eat together, what we, you real what?
Speaker 2:we doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if we can't, i mean unless you DL and you got a whole bunch of money and we go on dates out the country, that's fine, how you gonna say.
Speaker 2:I ain't with it, but I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, but it has to make sense.
Speaker 2:It gotta make sense.
Speaker 1:Because what am I gonna? I'm not just gonna be your household, no, like no. It has to make sense. Like I wanna go outside and you're not gonna keep me, you're not gonna keep me inside. So if you are gonna keep me inside, because you can't be outside in this city, we need to be going to Miami to go out once a month or something, like you know what I'm saying. It has to be balanced. And yeah, there's no, don't know, dl man wanna do nothing but fuck in your house.
Speaker 2:I heard that the politics and everything that go on in the gay communities. It's tough out here.
Speaker 1:It is. It's very ghetto.
Speaker 2:Do you want to be a dad? I?
Speaker 1:did. but the older I get I don't wanna be a single dad, don't nobody wanna be a single friend, yeah, so. I don't wanna be a dad, but if I hit 35 and I ain't had no kid, it's a wrap 35, you a man, frank, you can have a kid at any age, by the time I get 35, i'm gonna really be rolling in the door and I'm gonna be ready to go to the box.
Speaker 1:That's what you're supposed to have your kids Y'all, I'm gonna be ready to hit the street and be in Bali and Dubai and go home.
Speaker 2:If you have a kid right now, your kid will be five when you're 35, what you gonna do?
Speaker 1:That's fine if I have him right now, like I ain't about to have no fresh baby and I'm 35 and I got all this money and I got a seat at home here.
Speaker 2:So what is new for Frank? What do you have planned?
Speaker 1:So people always ask me this question. I always say I'm just going with the flow.
Speaker 2:Frank, if you said you going with the flow, i know you're gonna risk it or something I know you do. your whole life you've been risking it.
Speaker 1:I don't know I mean so like you see how the seconds show opportunity just came across my doorstep. When the universe is ready for my next step, it drops it all, And it ain't dropping nothing off yet.
Speaker 2:So Do you wanna go into full-time movie roles or television? Is that the ultimate goal you?
Speaker 1:like. Absolutely, I would love to do that.
Speaker 2:Oh, so you wanna be like reality TV? That's your lane.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't wanna stay in just reality TV. My goal is to. the next thing I wanna do is like start hosting stuff on TV, like hosting shows, and move into scripted series and navigate the Hollywood lifestyle Would you play a straight man. Oh yeah, why not?
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, so you don't have a role that you're like, mm. I'm not gonna do it Because I know now was all.
Speaker 1:they don't like black men in dresses, or whatever, whatever the dumb shit is, if the check is good, i'm gonna do it. The check is good, it depends on it. Can't be no crazy ass shit. But I mean, if I gotta walk around in a little dress and be that, i'll do it for the check.
Speaker 2:You know what? I never thought of that until you really put it in perspective that money can change your decisions. Yeah, yeah, very quickly.
Speaker 1:Because Drew ain't gay And he be sucking and sucking all that on TV.
Speaker 2:The money.
Speaker 1:Yeah Right, you know how much money he was probably making before that, and now that he's done that, he's able to say oh well, i was on this show, i made this much money. If you want me to work for you, you gonna have to match it. It's a game, mm-hmm, and so you either gonna get in or get out. You treat this like a hustle, it is. You treat this like a meme, a hustle It is, and that's why I was so happy You can't. I'm very particular on what I say. What?
Speaker 1:I post where I am, because if something happened, and it happened to me, that's my money.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, can't you do that?
Speaker 1:again. I don't wanna go back to work. I like letting the bed someday to let it go.
Speaker 2:You feel like I like this easy money. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, it ain't easy, it's hard Can people? book you, yeah, i'm bookable. I have a shh. Oh well, i guess I can't say I'll be in Baltimore for Baltimore Pride. You gonna be in?
Speaker 2:my city after you just talk shit. Listen, you ain't hear that after you just talk shit right, it ain't.
Speaker 1:What about? What about?
Speaker 2:Timonia Baltimore, 20 minutes down the street.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm gonna be in Baltimore. I forgot the name of the place.
Speaker 2:You gonna be Fair Hill, Fair Hills Point. You gonna be in the city.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm be in the city. It's a rooftop.
Speaker 2:I know you're going, yeah, so.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna be there hosting a night brunch, i think it's from 6 to 10. Come on, pop out. It's on Sunday.
Speaker 2:They gonna see Frank.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i think it's the last man party.
Speaker 2:Ain't no wrong with it, frank, if somebody wanted to book you right now, what's your price If somebody wanted to book you for, let's say, a hosting event?
Speaker 1:They gotta see me an email, because the price ain't the same for everybody.
Speaker 2:No, but it's different, like that, frank, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. You think I'm about to say a number on this show. Yes, I was Absolutely not You just said I'm a hustler.
Speaker 2:Now, sir, you said, no, you don't know what I gave him.
Speaker 1:No, we ain't doing that They don't know, you could have paid me to come here. They don't know Exactly. I ain't saying shit.
Speaker 2:Do you make it a scene? I heard I've never been the one, but the gay pride scene has changed. Do you see that now?
Speaker 1:I think it's getting better. yeah, i think everybody in every city, their respective cities, take it very seriously. I think more brands are beginning to become aligned with what it is to be prideful and be who you are.
Speaker 2:Who got the best pride right now Go ahead.
Speaker 1:So DC Black, so every city got a Black pride. They got a city pride.
Speaker 2:Give me three Top three.
Speaker 1:Top three Black pride or just in general.
Speaker 2:Overall.
Speaker 1:Best pride. I'm going to have to say DC, black pride, because we start off the prize, like our pride is first, you saying DC, ok, and it be lit, like this year, niggas everywhere, i would definitely Atlanta pride is amazing.
Speaker 2:OK, of course I know Atlanta was on that And New York City pride. Oh, whoa, whoa, We skipping Sam.
Speaker 1:Sam Francis, yeah, he ain't never been. Go say it's the best pride.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I never been.
Speaker 1:I thought he was a pride called the sword.
Speaker 2:No no.
Speaker 1:I bet too a lot but I ain't been to Sam Fran, but I can already tell that I'm going to be. I want to be what a niggas is.
Speaker 2:You like black man?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:You ain't never been with a swirl. You ain't never been with a swirl.
Speaker 1:I did give a swirl dad in my number the other day, you might get down with the swirl.
Speaker 2:You have an interracial baby Damn Frank Jr is a crazy place. Well, listen, man. I appreciate you for coming through. You gave me everything I knew you was going to give me.
Speaker 1:I almost think this is my first podcast interview in person And I've seen that And I was on your ass.
Speaker 2:Quick, so appreciate you for coming through. Everybody, check out Frank Grimsley ads What Baltimore.
Speaker 1:Pride this weekend. It is the last weekend of June. The last weekend of June, yes, i think.
Speaker 2:It's going to be a lot of shit, shirts, a lot of things. I'm going to come to the first gay pride. It's in my city.
Speaker 1:I'm going to come Now. I don't know what the hell.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do Now, don't lie, i don't know what. Am I coming with you? Yeah, you can come on, i'm going to fucking do it Now. Y'all heard it. Well, when he's text messages go green.
Speaker 1:I'm going to post this. You might find your bisexual woman in the lesbian party.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why you got to have friends like this, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:My homeboys know I'm the best wingman Because the bitches love me. I'm going to be like, hey, my homeboy want to talk to you.
Speaker 2:Listen. You got to love friends like this. This is for episode of the Vibes podcast. Man, Your boy, two number king, your favorite, Leo. Tell people where they can find you if they already don't know, you can find me on every platform.
Speaker 1:At Frank in the city, there is no I before the letter N. That's F-R-A-N-K-N-T-H-E-C-I-T-Y. I'm on TikTok, facebook, instagram, twitter. That's it, yeah. I ain't got no only fans.
Speaker 2:You're a grinder.
Speaker 1:I let all that stuff go when I turn 30. For real, absolutely. I'm going to cook for my husband and he ain't on there.
Speaker 2:All right, sorry about my grinder guys. Catch us on the next one. Man, This has been another lovely episode And catch us at Pride. I'm coming with the shirt, I'm here.
Speaker 1:Because I'm not coming back to Timonium, but it's my first or last time.
Speaker 2:I'll see y'all in the next one. Appreciate y'all.