What does it take to rise from the shadows of a 10-year prison term and become an inspiration for many? We explore this fascinating question with Anur, our guest for today, who has lived this reality. Anur, the sophisticated stepper, turned his life around after a decade behind bars, transforming his fear and stigma into success. Listen now as he shares his poignant journey, the challenges he faced, and how he found his voice to inspire others in similar circumstances.
The discussion then shifts towards the significance of optimism, education, and entrepreneurship in adversity-stricken neighborhoods. We dive deep into talk about hurdles young individuals face in environments swamped with drugs and liquor stores, along with the uphill battle against conventional paths to success. Hear how Anurs personal growth and artistic talent discovery amid adversities emphasize the importance of a positive environment and comprehension of one's subconscious voice.
Lastly, we touch upon the topic of parenting in this digital age, where social media often holds more sway than parents themselves. Anurs shares his thoughts on self-reliance, women’s empowerment, and the pivotal role of mental healing. His life story amalgamated with his insightful views on various issues makes this episode a must-listen. So, tune in now and let Anuil's powerful tale of transformation inspire you!
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What does it take to rise from the shadows of a 10-year prison term and become an inspiration for many? We explore this fascinating question with Anur, our guest for today, who has lived this reality. Anur, the sophisticated stepper, turned his life around after a decade behind bars, transforming his fear and stigma into success. Listen now as he shares his poignant journey, the challenges he faced, and how he found his voice to inspire others in similar circumstances.
The discussion then shifts towards the significance of optimism, education, and entrepreneurship in adversity-stricken neighborhoods. We dive deep into talk about hurdles young individuals face in environments swamped with drugs and liquor stores, along with the uphill battle against conventional paths to success. Hear how Anurs personal growth and artistic talent discovery amid adversities emphasize the importance of a positive environment and comprehension of one's subconscious voice.
Lastly, we touch upon the topic of parenting in this digital age, where social media often holds more sway than parents themselves. Anurs shares his thoughts on self-reliance, women’s empowerment, and the pivotal role of mental healing. His life story amalgamated with his insightful views on various issues makes this episode a must-listen. So, tune in now and let Anuil's powerful tale of transformation inspire you!
This show is sponsored by @bubbledgalorme #1 soap lady of the dmv
“Nourish the skin you're in”
Experience the Transformative Magic of Natural Ingredients for a Radiant and Nourished You
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Listen, man, it's been another episode of the VODES podcast. We are back, man. It's your boy, two-temple King, your favorite, leo, and listen, I don't even know if he go by his name, sophisticated stepper. Look this man right here. Y'all might not have seen his video because they took him down because the shit was too raw, uncut dope, but we don't sense enough in here, man, so I'm going to let this brother introduce himself.
Speaker 2:How y'all doing my name Anuil, as you say, the sophisticated stepper, whatever you want to call it, yeah.
Speaker 1:Listen, brother. Happy to be here, bro, no problem, we had to have you, man. You got a unique story, everything from your videos to just talking to you. Now I want people to know because we ain't sense for nothing. Who are you? How did you get to where these videos are? See what the family are? See you talking to the kids? You got a different style about you. Who are?
Speaker 2:you, I'm a manager and a prosper. You know I'm all about prosperity and it overcame insurmountable odds and my story is just beginning for real. I don't have the story. That's completely out of whack. I got a typical black male story. I was young. I made a mistake. When I was young, paid my debts. I'm saying to society and I had to come home and make a transformation. So I try to make the best transformation as possible and by the grace of God and having positive people around me is working on my favor.
Speaker 1:I respect that man, so you were telling me how long you been out for now.
Speaker 2:I've been out for two years.
Speaker 1:What made you when you came out? Did you want to just like step into this Instagram bag?
Speaker 2:Nah, I said, you know it's kind of weird, right, because when I got released I was so complacent with being locked up because, you know, I've been locked up since I was 19. And I got released at 29. But I was so complacent with being locked up that actually, when the gate opened up and I stepped outside the gate, I kind of like hesitated. You know what I'm saying, because I built, you know, I built a relationship with guys in prison. You know I built a relationship with my brothers. You know, sometimes I call them comrades, I call them companions of mine. So me going into a world that don't know nothing about me and I feel so small and I don't know nothing about the world, it was kind of it was intimidating. But you know, I kind of like, you know I had a must up to strengthen. You know it's working in my favor, man.
Speaker 1:Well, mustering up that strength, I seen you got a little boy right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got a little boy, I got two little boys you got two little boys.
Speaker 1:So when you came out and you hit the street after that almost 10 years locked up were you scared.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I said I just was scared, I was afraid of being a failure. You know what I'm saying, you know I already had this stigma on me. You know, from just going to court and you know, just being criticized and scrutinized by just the media, or just you know what I'm saying Just the nature of my charge period, you know. So I'm already a black man in America, but I'm a young black man, you know what I'm saying. That did something. You know that's frowned upon, you know, and me being sentenced with 59 years and me giving my time back and actually stepping into the world. I felt like I was doing something right, but it still felt wrong in a way, because I'm like man. You know, it's like it was a dream, it's like, you know, I feel like I ain't supposed to manhand. You know what I'm saying. But yeah, so every mistake was definitely a life-learning lesson, and so, you know, it's like I couldn't be scared. You know what I'm saying. To make my mistakes I had to bump my head.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying, I think that's a very important lesson that you just said just now. A lot of people are so scared to make any mistakes because they don't know what's going to happen from that mistake. But you're on the side of it, that it's okay.
Speaker 1:You can make a mistake you can make a huge mistake and still come out on the other side and be good. You can still live your life. You can get a second chance, third chance at life and be okay. So what led you to do? You even want to call it motivational videos, like when you first your first video what was that?
Speaker 2:It was a lot of empathy. Of course I was going through something and you know, when you hit rock bottom, you know it teaches you how to reach your full potential. You know what I'm saying, but you have to hit that rock bottom. So I was just going through trial and tribulations, just like anybody else, and I always had a voice. I always had a voice.
Speaker 2:I was never afraid to speak and you know, and this became a common practice to me, you know, just from me speaking in court and trying to basically persuade the judge to give me my time back, and trying to persuade the courts and my peers that I'm not who I am, you know, but I'm still going to say how I feel and I'm going to say what I mean and mean what I say. And that's where it really came from. It was breathing from net and it just like well, look, man, today I just feel like I feel like saying something and then, you know, once I get the input back, I'm positive input back, and just like, all right, we'll keep going. Like bro, you know, like you know where is that? You know, it's been, it's been times when I was actually making a video on. You know people were like bro, like, come on, bro, we try to hit a word for the day.
Speaker 2:And I'm like man, I'm in a process of doing it now, so it just really kept me going right. But you know, the devil has his way of working, man. It's like every time, you know, it's like every time you're trying to do something. I'm not going to say it because I'm not really heavily religious, but every time you're trying to do something that's gaudy like you know what I'm saying for mankind. You know the devil just always try to creep up and just steal your joy.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying, but you know you wrote with the punches what I've seen from your videos. Right, I don't know if you even want to put it in a motivational bag, but when I looked at it and I went through a lot I had the team go through a lot and when you get these motivational videos, it's kind of like a solemn background is just them. When I've seen yours, it was like, oh, you are a young fly, motherfucker, but you actually saying something with it. And it's like now, when you get to youth and everything like that, they see where you are, what you're buying and stuff like that and they think that's just the lifestyle.
Speaker 1:But when you open up your mouth and talk, I got captivated. I told my shorty look at this, Look at this you gave. I don't even know how to put it, but I've watched so many of your videos that I started looking at them in the morning. I was like, oh, this motherfucker is speaking and I can relate to you. I don't want to say you're so far gone because you've been gone, but you are so relatable that it doesn't feel forced when you're speaking to somebody.
Speaker 1:It's like boom, you, my brother, and you just really spit and gain to me and I got captivated in this. I think right now, when you found your gift, when you got out, you can resonate with people. Even though you had to use this gift to get you out of the jam that you was in, you found it, and even though people try to censor you, you still found it, and I think you should damn sure keep doing what you're doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1:Do you want to? You're from DC, right yeah, Do you want to leave DC?
Speaker 2:Of course. Of course. It's a complacent city. Dc is so menascrew we got the whole region to conquer. So I feel, the bigger the region, the more opportunity, the bigger the variety. The more shoulders you get, the more opportunities you got. And I tell guys all the time listen, it's two types of people. You got an optimism, you got a pessimist. Opportunity sees opportunity and early difficulty. It sees difficulty and early opportunity. Which one are you? I'm an opportunist, so Texas is like a marvelous to me. Yeah, catties like a marvelous.
Speaker 1:Oh, you going to take the Black Pearl we love.
Speaker 2:Cali and Houston. Yeah, because it's the biggest region I want to go with the biggest, so me staying here. It's cool, I love my city, but it's complacent.
Speaker 1:I always ask people this If you were in DC, baltimore, it might look big because it got a lot of stuff to do, but if you're from the city, it's small. You're going to, everybody's going to pretty much go to the same spot you street. You might have been up very farms back in the day. Everybody's in one central location. And I the time I asked somebody, they always say, oh, I'm going to stay here because I was born. I was born here and I was like, but but why, when you feel like you're going to go to Cali or Houston, do you feel as though you're going to be too big to come back to the city?
Speaker 2:Uh no, I'm never going to be too big, but I might be. I might be too busy. You know what I'm saying. I might be too busy for the simple fact when I'm trying to do they're not doing in the city. You know they're not building. They're not building facilities for mediators.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:They're not building facilities for facilitators to facilitate the youth and stuff like that. So I'll be too busy to come back Now. If this was a city of structure, you know, and we was all about our youth, then of course. But you know, I'm going where my opportunity awaits me.
Speaker 1:We're striking you because you just said this a couple of times. What about the youth? Has you in a chokehold that you wanna touch them?
Speaker 2:I mean, I just don't want them to repeat the same mistakes that I made. You know I tell guys all the time, man, it's cold in themselves, mm. You know, when you go to prison and when you make this 15 minute decision in your life, it costs you so much. You know what I'm saying. Like, prison comes with so much more than just losing your freedom. Some guys lose their sanity, you know. Some guys lose their purpose. You know some guys lose their motivation. They lose their dignity. So it's not just about your freedom. You know, some people really lose their existence. So if I have to experience that and share my experiences with the youth to show these guys like, listen, this is the only outcome then it's so big you know, but when you keep, you said this with cause.
Speaker 1:Anybody that know I grew up in Park Heights is a terrible neighborhood.
Speaker 2:I know a lot of guys from Park Heights Shout out to Park Heights man Shout out to Park.
Speaker 1:Heights. Listen, it's easy, cause, coming from the streets, it's always when we look at it. It's always somebody. It might be a family member, a teacher. It's always somebody that's saying, oh, just get out, just don't do it. And they don't realize it's not that easy, especially when you caught up in it. You might be mother, might be hooked on drugs, whatever you are the father, you are the financial backbone. I can't just get out, cause who gonna look after them? So what do you tell the kids, the teenage boys? That I might not wanna be out here slanging dope, but I got my little brother dependent on me. I got my mother dependent on me. I can't just go make $8 an hour. It don't work like that. So what do you tell them when they stuck in this position?
Speaker 2:I mean I tell all the guys when you are in bad situations. It's always something, it's always a treasure. You just gotta you can't look on top of the surface. You gotta dig deeper under the surface. That's what the treasure awaits you, you know what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying, but you have to scratch under the surface. So what I tell a lot of guys is that first of all, you need to do a thorough assessment on your life. Do a thorough assessment on your life and you need to evaluate yourself. Look at the statistics, look at what's going on around you and when you're making these decisions, make sure they rational and logical. And, trust me, your rationality just start kicking in and you will know what you need to do.
Speaker 2:It's like I didn't bend down bad to the points where I feel like this was the only outlet.
Speaker 2:But once you tap into your rational side and your logical side, trust me, your mind starts to transform and you'll see what look, you'll see what. Perhaps me silencing waters just to get a pack of noodles or whatever the case may be, just to get a stew tonight. Maybe that's the step that I need to take, because if I take this step, which is to a greater magnitude but you can cost me my life, then I won't even be able to even provide for my brothers and my sisters. So if I gotta do what I gotta do just to get a cup of noodles and we just go with this hump, you know what I'm saying for the night and so big, but you always gotta keep that. You gotta keep that optimistic energy. You gotta like, you gotta know that, look, we gonna be all right, we gonna be all right. You know what I'm saying. Like we gonna be all right. Like I know a lot of guys just getting money right now still eating cups and noodles but, you know we gonna be all right.
Speaker 2:You know we gonna be all right man, Y'all gonna be all right man, y'all just gotta, y'all gotta trust the process.
Speaker 2:And also, man, we have to educate ourselves. You know, like you know, when we was growing up in a household, we was taught to go to college. But there's nothing wrong with going to college. We was taught that if you go to college you will be something. But we was taught if you have a job you will be something. You know, sometimes we have to leave those old traditional ways alone and we have to teach ourselves how to be entrepreneurs. You know how to really open up businesses. You know, so we can do that higher and we can sign our checks. You know our family members and never I'd be out of work, you know we can establish some type of generational wealth and then accumulate.
Speaker 2:You know, because you know we a lot of black people, man, we consume, we consume so much money into brands and to you know establishments, and imagine if we just had that financial literacy that can be us. You know what I'm saying. So it's just like we gotta educate ourselves to be entrepreneurs, be business people and work for ourselves man, I think you speaking you going against the and I can say now it's different.
Speaker 1:You going against the grain because coming up it was the go to college, it was the being your family's business or get a job or something like that. But you're promoting something different that a lot of people you might not like school, that might not be your thing.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:And it's like it's so forced upon us that if we don't go to school, and it's a scam.
Speaker 2:We have fucking failure. Yeah, and it's a scam. And it's a scam. I said I know people right now that's still paying off college loans and in their 30s, you know, for room and board. It's like it's no way that you should be a hundred thousand dollars in debt and you got to accept it into the school, you know. It's just. I feel like it's a scam and some people graduated with degrees that they can't even find in their field.
Speaker 2:Jaws for fool, that's the fucking worst and it's like so I like you know, but if you was an entrepreneur? And you had divided these skills at a young age. And I'm not talking about you know tall enough, or like that. I'm talking about 15 up to 25 or something like that it's.
Speaker 2:you know what I'm saying why? One plus one equals two. It's simple addition. You know what I'm saying. You know you just got to put the time, dedication and effort into it. But our neighborhoods is just so, it's so, it's so, it's so infested with genocide man Like right where you go at you see liquor stores and you see drugs and shit like that. So it's hard for a young dude to stay on his focal point, like to have his focal point about himself, because he's walking past the liquor store, he's walking past dudes that's doing this. So you know, you just got to teach them you know what I'm saying how to be entrepreneurs. And then you know, when you teach them how to be entrepreneurs, they give them some type of responsibility.
Speaker 1:When you were growing up. What part of DC you come from?
Speaker 2:Southeast.
Speaker 1:Shit, yeah, All right. So when you were growing up in Southeast right and you seen the bullshit and everything that was going through it, Would you consider yourself because this is a two-part question would you consider yourself, was you the cool guy in the neighborhood?
Speaker 2:I was always the cool guy. I was the guy that caused a lot of havoc too, though but see, that's the thing though. It's not enough for me to brag about, but I was just doing with I was influenced.
Speaker 1:But see, that's the thing, I think you coming from another angle, because you were already. You were doing what you was doing, but you was the cool guy. People liked you. If somebody out here that's not the cool guy. So they see you. You see, with the change, the girls, the cars, the money, whatever and they looking at that like damn, I want that I could be myself right now, but I want that.
Speaker 1:So, being around that environment, or you could have just met somebody at home, boy, and they looking up to you like I want what you have. And especially as a teenage years, you wanna be cool, you wanna be accepted, you want the money, the girls. So I would say, even for me, when I was coming up and I was hanging with, I was hanging with and I seen the girls and everything like that. I think rest in peace to him. He gave me valuable game at like 16, when we was doing what we was doing with the women or whatever, and he looked at me. He was like I asked. I was like hey, how do you get women like da, da, da, da. And he was like Mark, I'm not even gonna lie to you, once you get this, it's gonna come in the surplus and you're gonna devalue it now because I got the money, I don't care. I got the women, I don't care about it. And it's not till I got older and I was like all this shit I cared about growing up.
Speaker 1:When you hit your 25s and older, that shit don't. Nobody. No grown man care about how many women you fucking, that don't matter. And I think when you're young, that's what you're seeing, so you want that. Until you can get to a age where you're like I don't want this. This is not what everything is cracked out to be. So when you came up, you were talking about your hurdles. What was one of the toughest hurdles you had to overcome?
Speaker 2:Just tapping into my potential, me having a passion to do something, but me just being influenced, just heavily influenced, just battling over myself. I wanted to play football, I wanted to be an artist.
Speaker 1:I got a musical artist.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I actually do music as well, though, but I'm talking about like a draw. You can draw. Yeah, I can actually draw. I didn't want to school for the arts, right?
Speaker 2:So listen listen so it was just me battling with the. I'm definitely part of the cool kids. I didn't I'd have been in the back of the school year books, I didn't won Prime King, all that, but I still felt that I just I wasn't who I supposed to be. I didn't reach my destiny for real, but I was, like I said, I was so complacent with having a bunch of yes man around me, yes woman around me that it was cool. You know what I'm saying. I just felt like Sometimes you just feel lonely. You know what I'm saying. Like you just feel. Like you feel because no one can relate to you. But I'm here to tell guys now, the way those, the cool guys they are in right now, the way those are in, is you don't?
Speaker 1:have to be cool, no more.
Speaker 2:Listen, be who you is. I said I know y'all see what's going on. Y'all pretty heavy on you know the social media. Listen where those are in, the Lord Uzi Verts and all that man. I don't know all them dudes man, but they in these are the weirdos, they are in it. So it's nothing wrong with just being who you is. You know, because we all perfectly imperfect man, that's a fact. We all perfectly imperfect.
Speaker 1:Speaking of the people you were just saying. If you want to consider yourself a weirdo or whatever, the weirdos are in. I'm going to cut you some game right now. If you a young weirdo out here, you might not blossom until you get older. So stay down, because you going to have the cool kids. They going to be the shit until they get older and then they fall off. But the weirdos, the artists, the musicians- your weirdos is the people that want to do.
Speaker 2:Those are the weirdos, though, trust me, listen y'all. Social media has developed so much anxiety to the point to where they feel like you have to be. Like, if you post something up, people are doing things for likes. Look, fuck them likes, bro. Don't nobody give a fuck about who like you or who not. Post your pictures up and be who you is. You know, that's what I'm saying. Like by them even having these type of futures.
Speaker 1:that's establishing some type of insecurities.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, because a lot of people doing shit to be like don't nobody give a fuck about that, bro, y'all be who, y'all is man, the weirdos I am. I know a lot of weirdos, you know, and they all, them, all, my rich friends.
Speaker 1:Listen, your weirdos is the rich ones.
Speaker 2:Them all my rich friends, man, you know, you know, not saying that they don't know. Weird, no other weird shit but just like and they own little weird like they don't want to sit and they might sit and talk to themselves, but they talk to themselves about a project that they develop and something like that you know what I'm saying. But the weirdos I am man, the cool kids always been in, but the weirdos I am trust me. And they out of not because you're up, but they, the people on power as well.
Speaker 1:That's fucking the weirdos. When you were saying you were an artist, right, when did? And it's always the artist. When did you realize you could draw? Like you had this artistic talent.
Speaker 2:When they came in, when they had a meeting with my father and said that they wanted to send me to the school arts. You know, because you know, when you doing something that comes natural, it's not really, it doesn't really hold no type of it really doesn't hold no type of substance. Because you, like, you know, I know I'm good at this but other guys is looking at it. They're like, well, man, man, this your calling. You're like man, shit cool.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:It's cool, like you know. But you know that's what it be Majority of the time. You know, when things come natural towards you, feel like that it's just natural but whole time it really be our purpose, it be our calling for real.
Speaker 1:So, noticing this about yourself, and you said you were going to the school arts, you were just talking about weirdos. You got a fucking talent, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I paint houses too. Like you know, I got a whole home renovation company that was inherited and herded down to me from my father. I got six brothers.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm the middle child, right, but I'd have lost my oldest, but I do have an older brother as well, and you know. So we have a. We still have a company that we run. We don't run into. The out foot is potential but we still run it right. But you know me picking up the brush and painting walls. It always give me back in that childhood like state you know what I'm saying my father sometime, like you know, I know we got to be the other process and I'd be like pop me on the understand what's going on right now.
Speaker 1:You come from a different land.
Speaker 2:You know, you know, and sometimes that's that's when I really started to feel bad. You know, sometimes my guilt started tripping because I'm like man, even though I never wanted to paint houses, but just the, just the aesthetics of me being around paint smelling, paint, sand with, with paint due and the colors and what I really can do with it. It makes me go back into my childhood, like staying like man. What the fuck? What happened, bro? You know what I'm saying. Like you know what happens.
Speaker 1:If you could go back, right, it might not be nothing. If you could go back and talk to your youngest up before the little situation happened. Right now, where you are right now, would you make a different choice?
Speaker 2:Of course I'll make a. I'll make, I'll definitely make a different choice because I mean, all the choices that I made was bonehead decisions. I'm not a bonehead individual. You know what I'm saying. Of course, the choices that I made I made was made me the man that I was today. But I'm God's child. I was going to be great, regardless you know what I'm saying Whether I made a bad decision or a good decision, I was going to be here regardless. I was going to get blessed regardless. We all, we all God's children, we we're going to get blessed regardless, you know.
Speaker 2:So, if I, if I can talk to my youngest self, I definitely would have told my youngest self, like, don't stay around. People Got the same problems as you go around. People Got the solutions to your problems and I'd have been I, you know what I'm saying. But, like I said, my, you know, I'm still here. I'm still here regardless. So you know, like this, this, this was, this, was destined for me. So I can't really say what I do, because if it's already, you're a damn, I'm still figuring things out.
Speaker 2:I'm still figuring things out. The only thing in life that I figured out is that I never had it all figured out.
Speaker 1:I'm still figuring stuff out, always learning.
Speaker 2:I'm still, I'm a student. You know what I'm saying. Like, you know, I'll, I'll, I'll come in a room and I'll and I'll soak up the game, you know, and hopefully I'll walk away and I learned something, you know. You know something has some type of substance, you know. But if I can't learn that from from an individual, then I really can't be be be around her.
Speaker 1:I just can't. Where did this transformation come from? Because it seems like from when you were that situation happened to where you are now. Whoever you are around, you can speak on them. Gave you game. You are a different individual. I'm not. I'm not going to lie right.
Speaker 2:I said when I was locked up in prison, a lot of guys who've been locked up with me in the Merlin system, you know a lot of guys tell you I was locked up in prison. A lot of guys tell you I was. I was really one of them, individuals who I was. I was rebellious. I'm not. I'm not just talking about to the, to the, to the power structure, I'm talking about with the inmates as well. You know what I'm saying. I had 52 infractions. I had hella stabbing. You know what I'm saying. I hadn't been stabbed, you know.
Speaker 2:So me just being in that, in that hostile environment, and me getting in trouble so so many times and being placed on segregation, I was. I was in a cell by myself because I couldn't even have nobody around me. You know what I'm saying. So I was in a cell by myself and I had no TV. I had. I had to have a radio only, like, only person that I could talk to was God and myself. So by me talking to myself, I heard my subconscious voice talking back to me and you know, and like I said when I went to school, it's no secret, I was. I was an honest classes and everything. So I said already, like I already had a high no, not a high intellect capacity, but I already had some sense, right?
Speaker 1:Clearly.
Speaker 2:So you know, when I got by myself, I always had time until my rational sound like bro. You know you ain't had to stare at that man. You know you ain't had to do this.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So it was just like that voice always talked back to me and you know I correspond with that voice. But this was always my rational voice, and my rational voice always soothing my soul, you know. It always console me, you know what I'm saying. During the time of rage or whatever the case may be, it always, it always soothing me. So that's when I say, oh, you know what I'ma type into my subconscious side and brace that and unlearn everything that I learned and start from you know and start from scratch. So that's how you know, that's how I I really taught myself you know, I really haven't been around guys that that really was, you know, on some productive, civilized type stuff. Because, like I was in, I was in a maximum security. So everybody had life, you know.
Speaker 2:So it wasn't no, you know a no. You know, when we get out, two years, three years from now, man, what's up? We going on the trip down, you know, down Miami, going on a vacation. It was none of that. It was like, look we down here. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like this, like this, this is our ending. You know my aspiration date is going to end in a second, my aspiration date is going to end in here and, you know, by me being around these guys so often with this type of mindset and me having 59 years before I get my time back, I picked up on this, this, this, this belief as well. You know, until I tapped in, like I said, to my rational side, my subconscious thoughts, and I got around guys that you know had a little bit of hope, you know, and this and I just you know I just created my own method. You know, it's like, it's like an ingredient, you know, like when you're trying to develop yourself and it's all about growth and development you have to have some type of ingredient or some type of formula or method that you put together to make you the man who you is. It's all about reincarnation, or reinventing yourself.
Speaker 1:So that's what it was. You say that you did. You have your mom grown up.
Speaker 2:I actually lost my mom right before I got locked up. Okay, sorry about that.
Speaker 1:You were saying that you had your mom.
Speaker 2:But I did, but I did. I had my mom, I had my brother, I had my brothers and I had my father as well.
Speaker 1:So, from talking to you and I'm going to say this, a lot of people think you know murders, robbers, thieves, whatever you want to call them, and people that go to prison. They think a lot of the times that you guys are dumb, and I'm here to say it now. There's a lot of smart motherfuckers in prison. People smart people make mistakes and, like you were saying, you was in honor roll, you were about to go to the school for the arts. If you put that on paper and just leave that there, nothing else, everybody would like I got my degree locked up For real.
Speaker 2:I got my college degree locked up. You know what I'm saying. So it's like. It's like you know. Like, like I said I was, I used to battle with myself. Like I, I tap into my ration, but I then, it's just like my, my defeating thoughts are always say, well, nigga you got 59 years, nigga you getting a degree. For what Nigga do you? Just this degree, not concur you? You know what I'm saying. No way you're going to die with this degree in here, you know what I'm saying so it was just like all right, well, fuck this degree, you know it's.
Speaker 2:It's no use to me even hanging this degree on my wall in here, because I'm in a shithole anyway. So instead of me, you know, just messing up the. You know the courage and and understanding, understanding that shit. You know it's going to be a brighter day and shit is going to get better. I always used to let my defeating thoughts overtake me, to my like. I said to my subconscious Do you have anger issues? I'm actually took egg management. I'm good now.
Speaker 1:Listen, I'm good now Talking to you. I have it. And when I'm sitting here and I'm talking to you and I'm like, okay, you got all these things going for you and I know how it is to have that anger, like you be the coolest guy, but when that, when that switch flips, we dead. It ain't going back now.
Speaker 2:We here now.
Speaker 1:So when you were growing up and you had all this stuff going on, you had your brothers, your parents. What made you speaking to the kids now? What made you choose the life you chose?
Speaker 2:Um, this band, this band rebellious, you know, uh, and I'm just, I'm learning, I'm learning this right now and just you know, band around my son's. You know, sometimes, you know you really have to touch that stove to really see if it's hot. And that's the old, that's the oldest saying, you know what I'm saying. Like you really have to touch that stove to see if it's hot. Um, you know, my father always, he always stored, uh, stored a lot of molds and principles in me. Um told me how to you know how to conduct myself. You know how to have the etiquette of a man. I'm talking about. It gets to. It was against the points where, you know, I was going outside and I was fighting the whole neighborhood, my father lying right by ya, cause I used to box too, though.
Speaker 2:So my father you know my father, you know my father, he lying, he lying all these dudes up, you know, and I whip all these dudes one by one, and you know what I'm saying. So my father always he kept that structure, he kept me stern.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm bye.
Speaker 2:I always want to tap into. I want to do what I know. I want to do. Yeah, you know, I'm saying like, like, pop, I like I understand, like, but you told me that was cool, but I got this shit now you know I'm saying you know, I like I got this, I like I got this shit.
Speaker 2:Now, you know, and Sometimes that mindset of I got this shit now it can be like oh no, you really in some shit now for real. You know, I'm saying like you know Me going out hanging around guys, I go all drugs, all this shit take apart. It calls us to do. You know, I'm saying some some, some, some that shit crazy.
Speaker 2:You know, and that's one thing that my father used to tell me. You know, um, choice making is one of the most important elements in life. You know, um, you gotta, you know, your choice making guy be up the pot. And my choice making wasn't up the pot. You know, like I said, I had I had common sense, but files like peer pressure and shit like that it used to get to me. Because, you know, I'm saying this is like. You know, I'm a teenager growing up. I'm still trying to find myself. I was sad of myself outside of my family home and that's where I went wrong at, you know, not trusting my father's word and gone, going, going with the vast majority. You know, when you got 20 dudes saying, look bro, that's gonna be all right, and you got your father saying like look, it's gonna be all right.
Speaker 2:And if you do this. That's the fuck up the same, yeah, so it's just like you know, the vast majority like they, they, they want, they want. They got the best of me.
Speaker 1:You was. You was talking about having to take that old saying something got touched the stove. No, it's hot, real you got. You got two kids, yeah, two sons. So when your sons grow up and they want to touch that stove to see his hot and you've been on both sides of that situation what do you do as a parent at that point when they are rebellious?
Speaker 2:sometime. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a firm believer of you. Know the kids want to leave the house so they won't run away. Need a ass out there. You know I'm not a firm believer that, like you know, I'm saying If my, if my child leaves, uh, I'm out there, I'm out there on a hunt.
Speaker 2:You know I'm saying um, but I'm willing to compromise and accommodate Uh my kids, because now we live in a different days and times, now to the point to where sometimes you might got to just Leave the old traditional ways of parenting alone and sometimes you might got to compromise with them to the points of where y'all have Uh an an agreement. You know I'm saying um like it's kind of hard Um to to add his mindset, but we living in a real world, we living in a world where social media Influences Are more influence you over your kids than you are, don't ever get him a stuck in. That's a fact I say when, when your kids are with their friends or their body itself, they are looking at influence. I mean people that are heavily influenced and influencer will influence your kids to do something that then that they normally wouldn't do. So, Um, knowing that you have this system design that's working against you for real, because the influence is not telling them look, if you shake your ass, cover yourself up.
Speaker 2:Now they not they not doing that. So being is, though that you're, you're, you're working against this system. Sometimes it's like, okay, if you want to have a pool party, you old enough, y'all in bikinis If some ass shaking is going to happen. I got to be around to monitor that or oversee that but when do you let a kid have that freedom?
Speaker 1:No, at what age do you let they got to experience this without daddy?
Speaker 2:holding your hands. That's the thing, though. See, sometimes you know you, they, they, you can, you can experience this shit, but, daddy right there, you just don't know it. That's when you get, that's the seat, that's when you got a head, that's when you got a head of the household, or gadgets it out on some James Bond shit.
Speaker 1:I see you you get.
Speaker 2:Understand, you know I'm saying like you know they see you, but they don't. But you have to be the overseer because you are responsible. But, um, you can't hold on to your child's hand, um, all the time, um, you can't. Sometimes you gotta let them, you gotta let them bump their heads. You got to, you know, sometimes, if they, uh, even if they get stranded somewhere, you got to ask them where they at and you got to tell them well, look, find your ride home. And you got it. You still got to be on your way to go get the ass, but you got at least spark some type of fear or some type of anxiety and into them.
Speaker 2:So they can all. I'm on my own now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're still coming. I gotta figure, I gotta figure this shit out.
Speaker 2:Instead of always being you know, I'm saying you're coming to the aid and all this. That's not the way the world works now you were talking.
Speaker 1:You were talking about influences, right? Do you consider yourself an influencer? Because this is a two-parter.
Speaker 2:No, I'm really not an influencer, I'm just somebody that's I'm a, I'm a relatable guy. You know, I'm, I'm like a voice for the voiceless, I'm, I'm that, I'm that guy who who want to speak, but he probably can't articulate or he probably can, uh, interpret it the way that people understand he probably.
Speaker 2:You know you got guys that want to speak but they feel like if they speak that it's frowned upon, that they wouldn't sound, it's intellectual, whatever the case may be. And you don't gotta be intellectual to speak your feelings. You know I'm saying I have a sense of empathy or humanity. You don't have to, you don't have to use all your syllables, all your vowels when you speak. Speak how you feel and again, say what you mean and mean what you say. But a lot of you know American and beaters down so much about to the points of air. Don't say nothing because they might not like you or they might deactivate your page or they might report you or you know I'm saying or you might lose some followers or whatever the case, maybe you might lose some friends. So it's the anxiety of speaking out and then getting shun or getting a monist about it. You know I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I don't give a fuck about none of that shit. Real.
Speaker 1:Do you blame I'm a this controversial, you I'm black people, hip hop, they move the needle with the culture, right, right. And just recently I think it might have been ndi real or whatever, and was talking about how you know, the mega starians, the cardi bees, shouldn't be Glamorized and things like that. But from what you're saying and you were saying about the knucklehead shit, our culture is so diverse that we can have the ratchet shit, we can have the political, we can be in all areas. And I feel like now they want especially the older generation. They want us to fit. They want us to fit this mold of Tighten up be good, but the younger kid is not with that shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but that's, but that's what I'm saying. No, I said listen, I respect, I respect the older generation. I respect, I respect the older generation. I said I just don't respect. Well, I respect, I love our ancestors. I just don't respect how our ancestors move, because one thing about it we powerful y'all, we don't get overtook and we don't get, we don't get um Bully into nothing that we don't want to do. Y'all know that black blood powerful. So let me say that, first and foremost, our ancestors, I respect our ancestors, but the way our ancestors was handled, we're not going for that.
Speaker 2:Come on, we ain't going y'all right. No, they ain't bringing back no damn slavery. That ain't happening and these days and times. But they brought back slavery in different aspects, in different forms, given, I'm saying, which is even more detrimental because Our ancestors didn't kill each other.
Speaker 2:We're killing each other now you know I'm saying so it's like you know, we, we, we doing the work, so it's, it's more, it's more fucked up. But um, files like the uh Files, like the, um, what you were saying about the, the entertainers, um, they, they, they have a lot of influence over our culture. It's just, it's all you can. You got understanding power structure. Uh like, listen, they to face it as shit, but Y'all got to understand who the ventriloquist is.
Speaker 2:It's not them. You know I'm saying a lot of us puppets. You know a lot of us puppets. And I was signed. I was actually signed to a label. I was signed, you know, I was signed to a, to a deal and when I actually signed the deal, um, I had, I had, I had stimulations on my probation that I didn't take up with them, you know. So I had shows that I was going to do. You know, I was going to open up for two chains.
Speaker 2:When he first opened up his hook and lounge down uh, atlanta, I don't went to south by southwest uh Music festivals and open up for Def Jam and stuff like that. But I didn't have my situation um, in order with my probation officer. But they was. So the labels had their heads so far up their ass to make money off me or whatever they thought they could have did with me, to the point to where they didn't give a fuck about my way of boss. So again, a lot of people that's in the power structure that's influence you y'all. They have been ran by, been trolliquists, man, they outpuppets telling y'all. But that's what a lot of people don't get caught up in this shit man, that's what they want, though it's all an illusion.
Speaker 2:It's all an illusion. Listen, it's entertainment business. When the lights cut on, when the lights cut on, when it's show time, you have to perform, they give you clothes to put on, they give you jewelry to wear, they give you speeches to say, they give you songs to perform or whatever the case may be, and when it's show it's cut. All that shit come off y'all. It's the entertainment business. It's just like a movie scene, a movie premiere. It's just like backstage. It's all the entertainment business. So don't get caught up on Glycent Glam and the images. Tell me y'all, don't get caught up on this shit man.
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Speaker 2:yourself. Yeah, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes I be in awe, sometimes I be taken aback by some of the things I actually come up with, but again, I always get tied into that, my spiritual side. I'm like nigga, this is what it is. You know what I'm saying. You can't really be surprised, you know surprised at what you do, when this is what you was born to do. This was ordained for you. You know what I'm saying. I just take it. I take it with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1:I take it with a grain of salt Right now one through your page. We got deleted.
Speaker 2:You got an amazing they deleted my page, y'all.
Speaker 1:My man had a lot going on on his page.
Speaker 2:He just got out so he didn't know, but listen, instagram, don't make me who I'm is Fuck that page.
Speaker 1:The man that had neck and women. It was going down on this man's page. He forgot this was Instagram. But listen, you got an amazing family man and coming out. You've been out for about two years now, right, and you have the two boys who taught you to instill that family, though.
Speaker 2:I always wanted that. And then me actually being around guys who used to show me back to prison, going back to prison, me actually being around guys who used to show me their family pictures and speak so highly about their families and their sons and their baby mothers, and I'm like damn, I just wish I just could get one more opportunity to get out there. And me, Ashley Bennett, in that situation. With them I'm like damn, I got 59 years, I'll never, I'm never going to have no kids.
Speaker 1:Wait, so you had all these recently.
Speaker 2:Yes, since I've been home.
Speaker 1:Boy, wait a minute. You said you got two kids.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I only been home two years. So right here, I'm done. Though, I'm done, I'm done. Baby girl, I'm done.
Speaker 1:I'm done.
Speaker 2:So it was just I was in, like I said I was in a Russian process to the point where I thought I was missing out on something. When I just came home, crossed my t-shirt, died my eyes and said you know what? Spend time into developing you. It's all about you growing and developing, but me being so excited being home, I'm like, well, I got to have a kid. You know what I'm saying. Kid is going to keep me level headed and things that work out with me and their mother, with his mother. And then it's like okay, all right.
Speaker 2:Well, I met another woman. I'm like all right, well, I got to have another kid, God damn brother. Yeah, but I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, and my kids will take care of it. I love them to death. But, yeah, I'm done, though it had got to that point to where I felt like I needed things to complete me. You get what I'm saying, bro. I really needed things to complete me and give me a title and make me feel like I'm important, and I had to really gather myself up and be like bro you don't need to be a father, you know what I'm saying to make yourself feel important or make you feel like you're somebody out here, or to give you you know what I'm saying some type of motivation or some type of inspiration.
Speaker 2:You should motivate yourself and inspire yourself, and then whatever comes with that, then that's a blessing. So I was putting my time and energy into a lot of things that I thought I needed to make me who I am is, instead of just doing the work, and that's why I rushed so fast. I spayed the process up. You damn sure did. You know what I'm saying. But shout out to my big mothers I love both of them to death. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Do you want to get married?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I believe in marriage. Right, I believe marriage is definitely a sensual. But we can be married in different ways. It doesn't have to be true.
Speaker 1:The women on your ass right now.
Speaker 2:It doesn't. Listen, listen, ladies, ladies, listen, ladies, listen, listen. It doesn't have to be traditional, though. Some people are married already, without the paper, without sharing a covenant with God and the commitment. Some people are really married. They just don't know it. But marriage is so overrated, man.
Speaker 1:Boy, they gonna be boy on your ass.
Speaker 2:Marriage is so overrated. Child Like, listen, I love listen. Shout out to all the married couples, all the healthy marriages, shout out to them. But marriage is so overrated because sometimes it's like people get married and they say well, I love him and I love her, and you can love somebody and still go cheat.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:You can love somebody and still go cheat and come back home at night and don't have no type of emotional attachment to the girl or the woman you just was with.
Speaker 2:But if you have some type of loyalty, that thought process wouldn't even come across your mind. So we don't need no paper, we don't need no commitment, we don't need no covenant that we have to share under God to have no type of loyalty. When you got that loyalty, fuck marriage. This shit bigger than a piece of paper. This shit is bigger than a vow. We are loyal to each other. We have soul ties. Your soul consoles minds and mine consoles yours. That's what it's all about. So when you have this right, it's with with ceremony.
Speaker 1:But listen, women, I'm going to try to vouch for you.
Speaker 2:I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you.
Speaker 1:But they're going to say they want that commitment, though you know women are going to say, yeah, you can have all that, but that paper. I don't know why women believe this. That paper is not going to make a man be loyal to you. Yeah, it doesn't. It's not, it's not, it's not. But to them in the society they feel like, oh well, they don't want to. They don't want to just be a girlfriend, they don't want to be a baby mama, they want to be a wife that carries some weight to them.
Speaker 2:Now listen, your accolades does not give you a sense of entitlement. You know what I'm saying. A lot of women we have entitled Like no, not even a lot of women. A lot of men and women we have an entitlement mentality, and it falls back on how he was raised, because a lot of us weren't raised to be husbands.
Speaker 2:And a lot of us weren't raised to be wives. You know what I'm saying. A lot of us was raised to be backbones, pillars of our families. That's what a lot of us was raised to be. That's how a lot of us was taught. So a lot of women that want to be wives y'all don't even have the etiquette nor the aspects of knowing how to be a wife, and that's cool, and that's the same thing for men. It's like I tell a lot of women, like a lot of I tell men all the time too, though. It's like man, you got big money with champagne taste. You know what I'm saying. Like, come on, let's go. Like let's knock out the brews first, bruh For we open the champagne, for we pop the corp, Because when you pop, the corp is a celebration. You know what I'm saying. Let's finish the brews first. You know what I'm saying. I'm talking about Boy.
Speaker 1:They gon' be on your ass they gon' be on my ass too.
Speaker 2:Y'all gon' drag me through the comments, y'all take it easy on me, but now listen, I'm just speaking. Fact, though, right. Say what you mean, man, what you say. Now all Like it's not a lot of women out here. That's Tri stalked us wicked times. That's wife bound. And I say that to say this right, because y'all care about the aesthetics of y'all family. Y'all care about how y'all look at it. Y'all care about how people perceive y'all. So when you and it's just you and your husband, and at the end of the night, when the sunset is just you and him, nothing else matters. You know what I'm saying. So a lot of people, they live for Instagram. You know what I'm saying. You put your time and energy into something that doesn't even hold any type of substance. It's no type of essence behind this shit.
Speaker 1:They want that. Will and Jada love you feel what I'm saying, yeah.
Speaker 2:And you already know what's going on, right until we talk. So we already know what's going on with that Will and Jada. Shit, that shit was a facade. That shit was a delusion. Listen, even even listen.
Speaker 2:Black marriages is portrayed as so bad. Right, the top, the top, the top entertainer when it comes to movies, tyler Perry, why did I get married? Look how he portrayed black people on that film. Just think about it. Let's pond on that for a minute. What's that? Some happy shit? That wasn't no happy shit going on. Hey, tyler Perry, I respect your art, but you portrayed this on the screen as black marriages is corrupt, it's chaotic. You know what I'm saying. What they call it ratchet is, it's hostile. You know what I'm saying. So when you got a person that's heavily influenced around a world that's portraying black marriage and to that type of magnitude, and you got a guy like me, that's a single man, that want to get married, I'm looking at that. I ain't going through that shit. Well, tyler Perry, he just inspired me not to just to be a bachelor. I'm not going through that shit.
Speaker 1:What do you think with that and you having sons are you going to give them that same game about women in marriage? Now you're raising the men out here in the world, yeah, yeah, but my sons they got to learn too.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. Like son, I can tell you what it is, but it's nothing like experiencing these like. It's nothing like experiencing stuff. You know, like a lot of stuff that we go through in life. Excuse me, a lot of stuff that she might go through in life. This shit can't be taught by no professor.
Speaker 2:Shit can't be taught in no college courses. You know what I'm saying. I done met a lot of women. That's well grounded, educated, have a high intellect capacity. I'm talking about Spillman master degrees. They have a lot of insight. They have a lot of. You know what I'm saying. They got a lot of book smart, but when it comes, to real trials?
Speaker 2:yeah, when it comes to real trial and tribulation in the real life experiences, they don't know how to find the problems through that shit. This shit ain't taught by no professor. You have to go through this and the only way that you can learn through it is from experience. So, my sons, I can teach you and give you a lesson all day long.
Speaker 1:But, listen.
Speaker 2:When you walk out that door, you might meet a woman that's very conniving, manipulating. You know what I'm saying. You never know it. Don't tell me I was shit and you have to. But the only thing I can teach you is like look, watch out for the signs, but don't let this kid this. Good, what's the back? Black street boys. Can I get a kiss? Goodnight. Don't let that kid. Don't let that kid fuck you mad because this is what I'm saying, because this is very it's powerful. So you can't let these things you know what I'm saying Cloud your vision or cloud your thinking and then next.
Speaker 2:Thing you know, you just delusion. So it's all about experience.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you this before we get out of here brother, I've just started this man. You did your time, raised a family shit. You were a boxer, you were a musician, you're an artist, you got all these things coming out. You might not say you're influencer, but if you influence one motherfucker, you're an influencer. So my question to you is if you had to have one last conversation right now to yourself, this would be the last conversation the world ever hear from me, your children ever hear from me. What would you say?
Speaker 2:I speak on about being a dependent. Depend on nobody too much in life. Even when it get dark, your own shadow will leave your side. So you got to know that you got you. Depend on yourself. I don't care if you got a bunch of coworkers, a bunch of companions like depend on yourself. Know that you got you. And if you got you, you know the area by around you're going to be straight. So that's the last conversation I have with myself.
Speaker 1:God damn Well, man, listen, tell people where they can find you. You need a goddamn book. Your story is too short, man, I know man.
Speaker 2:I said y'all can find me. I got my new page, God damn man, and I ain't got like, but like 25 of us I didn't.
Speaker 1:God, because you had the ass on there, man.
Speaker 2:All right, but you can y'all can find me at FBEanor FBEanor A-N-U-R. That's my Instagram. I just started it. It's a new one. And man, we're going to go back up. I said I'm actually about to start a new, a new talking segment or podcast, whatever you want to call it, and I ain't going to be lit as this one over this one, this one, this one let it right here, baby.
Speaker 2:But yeah, we're going to start a new one. It's just all rational, all rational and logical things. You know a lot of older women that's looking at this segment right now. If you have a trouble, youth, or you got trouble little brothers, or whatever the case may be you definitely going to want to tie band, because I'm definitely going to give a lot of gain in regards to them including young girls too, though, because that's who I do it for. You know, I'm still young myself.
Speaker 1:Why are you doing it for the young girl?
Speaker 2:Because you know I mean, at the end of the day, that's who we do it for period. We don't do it for, not for no young girls, but we do it for women period. You know men that go out and groom their sales or go get money and go get these high paying jobs or like we do it for women you know what I'm saying we keep, we keep the, we keep the, we keep the image out for the women.
Speaker 2:You know, we, we get flat for the women, we groom ourselves, we stay healthy for women. We don't do this for no, no, dudes, some guys do it for the dudes but it's nothing. It's nothing like a woman. It's nothing like a woman.
Speaker 1:We was made for each other, and that's what it's going to be, and that's what it's always going to be Um well, the fact that you say what you said about marriage and ended that shit on that note, yeah, Be doing it for the women I love.
Speaker 2:I love, listen, I love, I love, I love me. Some women, you know what I'm saying. I'm not I'm going to take advantage of them, but I just like being around them. You can learn so much about a woman. You know, um man, you can go out right now and we can be with 10 guys. We go to a bar right now. It's no guarantee this. It's no guarantee that we're we're making home. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:Cause you know how guys guys be but if you with some women, y'all gonna make it home, it's like if you the only man and you with nine other women you gonna make a, if you with your boys and like y'all might get into a bar fight or you know what I'm saying. So women, always they, they nurturing or they emotional, or they got a lot of empathy and it's it's they gentle, it's good, it's good being around women.
Speaker 1:I love women. Oh listen, brother. I like the fact that you have a story to tell. It is not. You can't say everything you've been through in one segment.
Speaker 1:We talked about the influences and I'm going to say now you are on a trajectory that is bigger than where you are right now. The things you have talked about the you being in honors and being an artist and everything like that people want to judge you by the way you look until they talk to you, and when you talk, you have nothing but game to give. You have life experiences to give, so I already know you're going to be famous before you hit Houston.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I ain't trying to be, I'm trying to be rich y'all.
Speaker 1:I just, I just want some money.
Speaker 2:I just listen. I want some monetary game and I just want to give back, you know, and I can end it all. And at the end of the day, I can end it all, like me just being a philanthropist for my people. You know I ain't got to do it for the world. You can do it for your people. You know, I just like I said, I don't have to be rich. I just want some money where I'm comfortable and I make sure man my people comfortable and we can go from there.
Speaker 1:Oh listen, brother, I appreciate you for coming. I appreciate you for dropping this game. I told this man I ain't forget about him. We've been on a calendar for a very long time, man. And before we get out of here, one more good shout out to, as you can see right here, the right therapist man. She has done everything she was supposed to do in life. He was talking about women. She is an epitome of actually going out doing what you supposed to do. She was recently on a podcast and slaughtered it. If you've seen our interview, you know she is a shy person, but not anymore. Check out the right therapist. She got a children's book. She got jealous.
Speaker 2:I need a third. I need a third. We all need some therapy. I know my youngest needs some therapy. We all need some mental healing Trust me. If y'all act like y'all don't need no mental healing. We all messed up in our own little ways.
Speaker 1:Trust me and that's just that, man. Catch us on the next episode, man. I don't know when it's going to drop. He said he wanted this to drop on a specific day, so when his drops, mine going to drop at the same exact time, man. So appreciate you for coming, brother. This has been another lovely episode of the Vibes Podcast, man. And yeah, catch us on the next one.
Speaker 2:All right, y'all be safe.
Speaker 1:Now you just need the photos, brother.