Picture this: You're a successful nurse, but you decide to take a leap of faith and journey into a field you know nothing about - becoming a nail technician and creating the #1 school in the DMV. That's the incredible story of our guest, London Ward, who not only braved this unfamiliar territory but emerged as the top nail technician in DMV. Get ready to be inspired as she shares her experiences, from battling it out in court for her business name to navigating the challenges and benefits of running a nail salon amidst a pandemic.
Ever wondered about the unique struggles of dating as a single parent or if money truly can buy love? We dive deep into these topics and more. We generate some vital conversations around supporting each other as black men and women, and explore the differential dynamics they encounter. As we switch gears to discuss love, money, and success, we challenge the notion that successful men are more likely to cheat, and ponder the correlation between personal style and societal perceptions.
Finally, we venture into exciting territories discussing gender roles, double standards, and personal growth. Can two people attracted to each other truly maintain a platonic friendship? How do gender double standards affect personal growth? We debate these ideas and more, providing a rollercoaster of thought-provoking discussions. Whether you're interested in the dynamics of attraction and friendship, the impact of fashion on perceptions, or the journey of an extraordinary nail technician, there's something for everyone in this episode. Join us!
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Picture this: You're a successful nurse, but you decide to take a leap of faith and journey into a field you know nothing about - becoming a nail technician and creating the #1 school in the DMV. That's the incredible story of our guest, London Ward, who not only braved this unfamiliar territory but emerged as the top nail technician in DMV. Get ready to be inspired as she shares her experiences, from battling it out in court for her business name to navigating the challenges and benefits of running a nail salon amidst a pandemic.
Ever wondered about the unique struggles of dating as a single parent or if money truly can buy love? We dive deep into these topics and more. We generate some vital conversations around supporting each other as black men and women, and explore the differential dynamics they encounter. As we switch gears to discuss love, money, and success, we challenge the notion that successful men are more likely to cheat, and ponder the correlation between personal style and societal perceptions.
Finally, we venture into exciting territories discussing gender roles, double standards, and personal growth. Can two people attracted to each other truly maintain a platonic friendship? How do gender double standards affect personal growth? We debate these ideas and more, providing a rollercoaster of thought-provoking discussions. Whether you're interested in the dynamics of attraction and friendship, the impact of fashion on perceptions, or the journey of an extraordinary nail technician, there's something for everyone in this episode. Join us!
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I'm a name, I visit snob nails and I'm gonna let her know, so I shot my shot. I told her we ended up having to go to court to battle over the name, which is crazy battle, but I want and I always say real respect to her, because a woman that was gonna hate or woman that didn't want to shine, they didn't like nah, you can't have it, but I know it's came to agreement. I won my trade, I won my registration and we got my name is Christine.
Speaker 3:Happy to be here.
Speaker 2:So we about to kick this off. Alright, welcome back to a never episode of Vise podcast. Man, if you see me wearing the same things, because it's the same as that day, ain't dirty we got. My god, mr toxic, here we got, she's new. I am new okay, say your name right back here, christine, and we can.
Speaker 3:They follow you at follow me on IG name.
Speaker 2:Underscore JAR and we got the lady from 24 o DC hand landed a brunch is most city, you know, park you know all the spots tell people who are you, where you from well, first I gotta correct you it's the 202, but I am from northeast DC. Morning rain okay, your name is London. Okay, london for those that know me and you own what not nails technician oh see, you try to add, like you try to be modest. You got a number one. What?
Speaker 1:niltec school in the DMV.
Speaker 2:I ain't here. You didn't say what the bottle. There you go, there you go and I'm gonna let mr toxic go in introduce himself.
Speaker 4:I know what it is. Has to, mr God, that glow got my edges. No, beijing got white teeth and I got good jeans, you see and, yes, it's saying I said this shit for a week straight.
Speaker 2:Listen, but listen, miss London. How did it all start?
Speaker 1:oh, you want the truth, you want the lie, you want the infatuation.
Speaker 2:I won't hold on because you ain't the two, three, four, five, you number one yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Um so ironically, I got into this out of nowhere.
Speaker 1:I truly poured the, pulled this career and skill out of my behind right, my child's father suffered from traumatic bearing injury and my daughter was birthed all within the same nine months to each other. And I'm a nurse and I've been a nurse for the last 13 years and basically I was trying to figure out what I could do to make the same amount of money that I was making as a nurse. But in entrepreneurship. I made a list, I wrote it down 32 things on the list. I say whatever 22 is on the list which is my favorite number, that's what I was gonna do. Nail salon was number 22 and I've been up since so hold?
Speaker 4:is that the?
Speaker 2:you would have went with whatever was number 20.
Speaker 1:Yes, you could have been a construction worker anything that was, I was doing it 22, so how did it start?
Speaker 2:you jump right into a salon like how did this whole thing so?
Speaker 1:what I did was I was like, alright, I figured this out, right, I gotta figure this out. And so I went to my sister. My sister I don't know if you guys know my sister's, but big baller I went to her. I was like, yo, this is what I want to do. She's like, okay, but my sister, she type person we need a meeting, you need a plan. I'm like I ain't got all that money. Like, give me the money, okay. And so I tried to bribe her. We were on trip to Miami earth, and so she came back. I'm thinking she's about to cut the check. She's gonna cut the check. I'm like you know what bump this. So I had two pay checks and my taxes coming and I call my dad was a dad taxes coming exactly.
Speaker 1:And then I called my best friend and I told him a, b, this is what I'm about to do, and both of them was like go for it. I went, I got my building and been going since so, but you had to go to a school, right so that was after. That's why I said you got a camp. You did it. I mean now you're a few years back.
Speaker 1:So, no, when I first open, I was not licensed. I didn't know anything about this field, which is why I truly say I pulled this out of my behind, right, so exactly right, thank you. And so I literally went, got the shop open, it up, staffed I didn't even do nails at the time and so from that standpoint, I was like you know what okay, ghost, let me learn a little bit of what to do. But the only reason I ended up in school is because I found out that what I was doing was illegal.
Speaker 4:I got a question, though. I got a question how to be an illegal. Is it illegal to actually own a business like that without being licensed.
Speaker 1:So in this in DC yes, and Merlin no.
Speaker 4:Okay, I thought so okay, started in DC, got you okay, then do you have any shops in this in Merlin?
Speaker 1:right and Merlin yes, and Merlin not doing temple Hills, yes, temple here, oh, you say you've been yeah, how many shops. You got now just one oh god in the beginning. For who?
Speaker 4:are you go?
Speaker 1:I didn't have anything to do with the pandemic for it during COVID is I was already starting a process to open it up my right and so during COVID, basically we couldn't do services. You know my nail text. They was they was doing good because we could still bring people in, but once the market, I'm inside of them all. So once the mall was like you got stopped, you got closed right so.
Speaker 1:I'm like, all right. So I was already in the process of waiting to get my school to prove. I got my approval during the pandemic, but once you get your school to prove, you still got to wait for your school number. So I'm like, all right, let me figure this out now. Me, the hustle that I am, I went, got a B&B. I was like my house, but I'm gonna be. And so then once that all day what it was supposed to do, and I got my number for my school, then I was like all right, y'all, boom. I went to the mall. I'm like a look, if I can guarantee you to tell you we keep track who coming in here, who not coming in here, what space this is in this and that keep a paper log, can I open up? And they was like you know what? You got back door. So because you got a back door, you could control it, go ahead, and that was that and that door where, like it's just, the?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I never seen the back door of a mall, but you know.
Speaker 4:I was in the mall. So what do you find the most challenging part? Like we were talking to some other guys about being an entrepreneur black woman. Do you feel like black women have more opportunities to be entrepreneurs than black men?
Speaker 1:now it depends on how you look at it, right, because if you in the streets, men, but if you in business and structure, women present better to the economy. I would say you talking to the right person, building you up for the setup but so I would say that, but honestly I believe that equal opportunity it doesn't truly exist with men and when women and entrepreneurship, but it also depends on what sector so you're in the what will we call this industry beauty education beauty education.
Speaker 4:What a man succeed in your position if he's, let's say he's a straight man. With a man succeed in your position as a straight man black man black man right, because when we normally say a black man don't have or anything in the beauty industry is not necessarily frowned upon, but is stereotype a certain way, can a straight man have the success that you have, in your opinion, doing exactly what you're doing?
Speaker 1:absolutely, and I've actually employed straight man and from that I would say that the children's mother ain't calling and saying they need money no more.
Speaker 3:I can definitely say.
Speaker 1:I had a guy in there and he came to me the crazy parties we grew up together, right. He came to me say you're learning, let me work on your shot. And I'm like what could you possibly want to do in here? Right, and he was like my, I'm gonna get money. I used to cut hair but I didn't get license, so I know, if I can learn how to defeat, I'm gonna be good, right same thing you did, you know I get you a shot.
Speaker 1:He came in there, man, he was wiping floor with them pedicures. Okay, he learned the massage I'm talking about, like he was on it, like on it, on it, and so it could definitely definitely be done do you agree with that?
Speaker 3:yeah, nothing better than a straight man wrapping your feet like I think you're the best thing about it.
Speaker 4:I think it's true we would just the pedicures, though I'm saying the entire thing absolutely mythology. Oh, not necessarily just. I'm saying a beauty industry, right, I don't want to just tunnel vision into feet, cuz I guarantee you any straight man don't mind rubbing feet right, like when it's most of me ain't a feet got myself. But I'm saying that's that type of success, that level of success, that going around being a traveling beauty person, having schools, you believe women would listen to a man talking about how you should do hair or nails or even lashes. You know you got that the real lashes to fake. Me know the one lash.
Speaker 4:Only know that cuz my sister right like said a one-lash at a time with do it with a straight man. Had a sexual man, do you feel like he would be as successful as a lot of the women that presented on social media, social platforms or even having a franchise of salons?
Speaker 1:I think it's possible, right, but I think that you have to look at it strictly from professionally right, and men and women like to dibble and dab and mix this and mix that, and so I think that is what will ultimately destroy his business, because women are gonna flock oh you successful, you got this, so you got that, oh, I want a piece of this, I want a piece of that. Then they gonna be put to guess each other, you know. So I believe it can definitely be done, but he has to be 100% one track my business right. Also, I believe that if he does it more of just owning and not servicing that he could definitely, definitely do good. But you got to be careful.
Speaker 2:We talked about this on a previous episode and I want to get both of y'all opinions on this all week before I even hit the top of it all. Y'all willing? Are you with your situation, with your husband? Is he still with us? Yes, yes, we're both for you. Ladies, right now, say at this point in your lives, y'all willing to build with a man that's at the bottom?
Speaker 1:you don't want me to get talking to you.
Speaker 2:Know what you're?
Speaker 4:gonna say she from.
Speaker 3:Nigeria. Crazy because I saw that whole like Tyler Perry thing they're raising, talking about how he said black women. We have to like learn. I guess like kind of subtle and like, but I mean it's, if he has ambition, then I guess, yes, I will be rolling, but if he's going nowhere, if it's just me consistently taking care, I'm not so ambition doesn't mean he's moving yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3:But if I see, if I see his passion behind something, I'm gonna always support him. I feel like that's my thing. I'm always a motivator, nurturer, so I'm naturally gonna do that for my man. But if I see like you not doing thing, I'm doing all the work, then no, I guess it depends on the toxic.
Speaker 2:I'm on it. You said your man. We talking about a man you just met. Oh, I mean no so the answer to that question is no oh okay, so your man miss ma'ams you? Some man is trying to approach you and talk to you. Does he already have to have something?
Speaker 1:let me say this prior to the level of success I have achieved, I would have accepted just about wherever you are right now, baby nah, okay, man, we talked about this.
Speaker 4:They not building from the bottle, so I guess my question, my follow question for the both of y'all would be at what point does a black man cuz? We talking about a black man, we ain't talking about just any man, right? So let's, let's make sure y'all get that out, y'all here we talking on any man. At what point does a black man have the opportunity, even in some of these bigger markets, these bigger metropolitan markets, has the real opportunity to even be successful? See, because, because now we don't, when we talk about the bottom.
Speaker 4:When we talk about the bottom, when we talk about the mud, we're not talking about like, come on, and we know we ain't talking about a guy with holes in the shoes right, holes in this tennis shoes, right. We talk about literally the bottom, like he really got some climbing to do right. But again, in what metropolitan city we talking about that a black man has the same opportunity you just said afforded to him that he wouldn't be actually starting from the bottom. At what point was he afforded the opportunity to even give the idea of being successful? Like to say that you couldn't start with a man that's coming out the mud?
Speaker 3:I mean, I look at her, for example. Technically she didn't know anything about her institution right now. She took the time, she built that craft, even when it was like illegal. She did it like she pushed herself. So I just take it back to ambition. I feel like if you're passionate about something, it doesn't matter what opportunity you're gonna strive to get. That that's how I feel in general.
Speaker 4:So so in general. Let's leave it in general again. It still goes back to the same question in general, if you're not given at least a slight reassurance that you could be a successful right she is.
Speaker 1:I think she's reassured. Hold on, I'm gonna end that right quick, she's back.
Speaker 3:We're not talking about a black woman.
Speaker 4:We're talking about a black man. There's no reassurance in the nation that a black man is deemed to be as successful as a black woman, Even right now. In 2023, it's way more successful.
Speaker 2:Successful black women. Yeah, women period.
Speaker 4:Financially even struggling, starting businesses. It's way more women starting businesses year over year than it is black men. It's way more black women that have successful businesses year over year than it is black men. And if you're not willing to again start from somewhere with a man, right, because we hear that seven, what is it called? The seven, seven, six, six, six something? A man, you gotta be six feet, you gotta make six figures. Oh, yeah, yeah right, this is one of the women she put up going.
Speaker 3:So why don't you let me be the one to carry like reassuring or like like? It just goes back to my saying like black women, we're not always reassured, but we have to push ourselves.
Speaker 2:Who are you reassured by?
Speaker 3:Black men.
Speaker 2:Yo, let's clear this up. You're not reassured by your man.
Speaker 4:You're reassured by black men, though, so we're reassured by everybody Black men, white men, black women, white women, chinese. Everybody reassures the black woman. It's not one culture of people that don't support black women, absolutely not.
Speaker 1:This man is an illusion of life. Okay, If you think about it. Okay.
Speaker 4:So everybody don't support black women?
Speaker 1:Absolutely not, even in the industry that I am in. Okay, the reason that I have the buzz and the climb and the humility behind me that I have is simply because we are shunned upon as black women in my industry.
Speaker 1:I created a wave and a movement for my people Okay Us, as black women, to be successful in this. I taught it to them via entrepreneurship, not beauty skill, so that you're not just going in and having a skill set and still have to work for them. You're like, no, I'm bossed up F y'all. You're going to see what I do as a black woman, so absolutely not Hold on now.
Speaker 4:Hold on, hold on so when you say that and I love the passion. The passion is amazing.
Speaker 2:She got the vibe over that shit, hold on.
Speaker 4:Again going through all of that that you just said. Who's your supporters, though? Your supporters coming from all over. Your supporters are not just black women. Your supporters are just black women.
Speaker 1:I can say this that if I go through my client log, 98.8 p two, three percent is black women, not your clients, your supporters.
Speaker 4:Even support your supporters is coming from all over. We don't even have each other supporting each other. To my black men, you literally got black women supporting you right.
Speaker 1:Sir, okay.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to tell you what are you bringing to the table? You?
Speaker 1:are wrong so black women is not supporting you, let me say 98% of them are. Black women are supporting because of the service. Okay, now, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Black women are supporting me that have the same ambition and passion as me. But if you ask me if there's more haters than there are, congratulators. Absolutely, that's natural. No, no.
Speaker 4:No, no, no no.
Speaker 1:A black man will support another black man faster than a black woman will support another black woman.
Speaker 2:But that's a situation with women.
Speaker 1:No, the reason being is black women, from the time they're born to the time they die, are pitted against each other. Black men are not pitted against each other. It's more of that's your bro, watch out for your bro, if that's how it works. For women, it's more of oh, is she pretty to you, is she skinny to you, is she better than you? Can she dress? So I don't know where you getting your information from but baby, you're wrong.
Speaker 4:But hold, that's not information, because I think what you're saying is the opposite of what you want to say. If you really feel like it's black men supporting black men that way, then whatever information you got is not necessarily wrong. It's more or less misleading. Right, because at what point have you ever seen a black man's march, in a sense and I don't mean a march literal, but everybody, all black men together, right? So soon as Obama came in, he said my brother's keeper. He started a program, said it's my. Are you my brother's keeper? Right?
Speaker 2:Brandon Scott did that same shit. You see what's happening.
Speaker 4:It went away immediately. But when Michelle Obama or any of these other programs for women that helped the 40 top women, et cetera, et cetera, the minority women get these loans, et cetera, et cetera, those are still around.
Speaker 1:And let me say you are no, because we know how to organize.
Speaker 3:Thank you all. No, no, no, no, that's right, that's right, that's right. We know how to organize, we can help.
Speaker 4:I'm more or less speaking to what she was saying. I'm not saying you're not structured. I'm not saying you don't have organizational skills. I'm saying that's the difference in a woman supporting a woman because you're all structured. Men can't support each other because of the competition. But hold the competition element in just men versus men is way worse than she's prettier than me. But let's dress up on the table All y'all women say y'all ain't in competition with other women anyway.
Speaker 2:But why? So? I'm going to ask the women right here, I'm going to get both of y'all because y'all, clearly, you clearly agree that the men are the women are very, very catty towards each other. So let's start at the beginning of all this. They're not in competition with each other. Why do y'all do this?
Speaker 1:It's not that we do this is you have to think about. Culturally we are raised on I gotta wash my words because culturally we are raised on survival, we are raised on hardship, we are raised on neglect, Miss.
Speaker 2:London.
Speaker 1:I'm not going for that Because I'm saying like every black woman got that same struggle, though Because I cannot say that I come from that right, but what I can say is coming from a household but, my mother, literally, if I wanted to spray paint pennies right now, paint and go sell them at the not the census bureau, what you call that thing the men downtown she will be outside selling them pennies with me for 50 cents or $500, whatever. I want to sell the pennies for right. How many women have their mothers okay, even their sisters able to say, look, this is what I want to do, this is what I want to start? Do you know how many women sit in my class and be like yo don't? Nobody support me.
Speaker 1:Miss London, I came to you because I hear your story. I come to you because I see what it is you're doing. I come to you because I don't have a, a menstrual. I don't have nothing but myself. I'm the one got to get my family out the mud and my, my mother and my father not telling me entrepreneurship. They telling me, oh, go to school. They telling me, go get a job. They ain't got nothing. They having to mount it to nothing. So they can't see where I want to go. They come from a different time.
Speaker 4:I don't come from that. You say Nigeria right? Yes, speak on it, coming from a whole new geographic of the world.
Speaker 3:Well, Nigeria, we're known to work hard.
Speaker 4:We're put. What's that?
Speaker 3:And specifically, I believe Nigerian women are like the number one as far as like PhD holders, and it's weird because in our culture.
Speaker 2:Say it again for say it again for speaking.
Speaker 3:And our culture. You know the woman is to believe it doesn't matter pretty much where you are. As far as education, you're only taught to kind of be like a housewife, clean. At the same time You're taught to like kind of better yourself. For me, I think it was different. I grew up in a single parent home, like my mom pretty much. I saw her. She worked hard. She came here, you know, she was in the citizen. She started off cleaning hotel rooms and now she's like in nursing.
Speaker 3:So I think I just to speak on what you said or whatever I do feel like your upbringing kind of pushes you in a way to like kind of succeed, if that makes sense, because I feel like a lot of my friends actually came from homes where it was no father, it was like no man. So you're only taught like what you know in a sense. So I don't want to say women like we tend to be competitive, but we're kind of breaking out of that stereotype. I do feel like society pushes black women. They feel like we have to be aggressive, we have to work harder, we can't show like any type of emotion, we have to like be known as a strong person. It's not fair in my opinion, or whatever. So I feel like, so piggyback what you say, where you say like why men like? Why is it harder for men? I don't think it's harder for black men, I think it's harder for black women in my opinion.
Speaker 4:So so again, and I'm not going to ever say talk about my people, never leave hot. I'm never going to say that, right. I'm only saying that it's harder for black men because they continue to push the narrative of separation, even amongst the black households. Right, For instance, you still got society representing the LGBTQ community in the black woman's community more than the black man's community. They still don't even attack the racial issue community as much as they attack the women's support women community in the LGBTQ community. It's like the black man falls all the way to the bottom unless you are athlete. And even as an athlete, they tell you what, what the white lady let's tell you on the bottom.
Speaker 4:I'm just saying like I'm not, I'm not again. I'm not saying black women are not going through a lot more. I'm saying in 2023, the narrative is still to push everybody else to success. But the black man, even even when you got somebody like a Kanye, somebody that's already rich and famous, he make one statement and I only want a black ball, they want a black one. They want to get rid of it.
Speaker 3:They can never block a Kanye, they can never black ball anybody if we have the right, support Right, but I'm saying the presentation of it.
Speaker 4:So when you, when you see the presentation of black women on the pedestal, or Nigerian women with all these PhDs younger ages too, I'm talking about young ages 20, 21 years old with PhDs how many times have you actually seen?
Speaker 2:Are you looking? Let me ask you this Are you looking out of what you're saying right now? And I ask it to everybody Are you looking for it to be equal? Are you looking for it to be fair?
Speaker 3:Fair. It'll never be fair. It'll never be equal?
Speaker 4:No, it'll never be equal. It can always be fair, Meaning if they got a program for minority women, they should have a program for minority men. That's just being fair, Right. Like at some point in time what can be equal? Nothing, in the sense. Nothing is equal, Right? My physical anatomy tells me I'm supposed to be stronger than you anyway, so we can't be equal. But it's fair enough to say well, just because I can play basketball, that don't mean she can't play basketball.
Speaker 4:So let's have a basketball league for both, so it can be fair.
Speaker 3:But the WNB is still paid less than the NBA.
Speaker 2:As they should be.
Speaker 3:Relax over here. No, relax over here.
Speaker 2:No, relax over here. No, relax over here no relax over here.
Speaker 4:Don't jump on the one example, because then we're going to mislead with the conversation about what the content is about. It's about being equal or being fair. Right, equal is saying we should both make the same amount of money Nothing to ever be equal. But it's fair to say that just because we got a league, you should have a league too. Just like I asked you about the question. It's just fair to say that a man shouldn't be considered non heterosexual because he want to be in the beauty industry. That's just fair.
Speaker 4:Now, equal. You'll always probably have way more clientele because you're tapped in with people that want to be healthy and beauty. It's not a lot of men that's really going to get manicures and pedicures every single day. We probably needed more than women, but we get it so much more rare than what women would. So that's what I mean by that. It'll never be equal, but it's just fair to say that, yeah, you're a heterosexual man. Go out there and get a beauty salon. You should be fair to not be judged because you want to do finger waves.
Speaker 2:I'm going to let you know. I get you. You are called the humble hustler Right.
Speaker 1:You are.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say it. You're managed to gave me the rundown. You are a mother of three. Yes, right now you got a business. You're succeeding. You are a divorcee just like me. I was never married.
Speaker 1:You just said your husband. I said my child's father. She did.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, your child's father. I was never married. It's just like a black man, your child's father, right, we were talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sorry we had to go through that, but with that happening, do you feel and I'm going to ask you to, and you do you feel like your dating pool is smaller now because of the success you made business wise and also because that you do have three kids? You feel like mm. Now the men that you would desire aren't really desiring you anymore? That's a good question.
Speaker 3:First off, beautiful. I don't know, I'm not going to deny her.
Speaker 2:Let her cook, let her cook, let her cook, let her cook, let her cook, let her cook, let her cook, let her cook, let her cook Let her cook.
Speaker 4:It's on you Answer that question.
Speaker 3:So I am a mother too. Okay Back there. But I personally feel like I'm still desired by men. I don't think it's an issue. I think when I have a bomb as personality, that's just me or whatever, and I think I just bring a lot to the table. So I don't think it's an issue for me to meet men. I feel like men usually don't care if you have a child, like if you're in my certain age group. I'm not putting my age out there for my birthdays this week hey have a great day, but thank you.
Speaker 3:But I do feel like it's expected, like okay, it's normal, it's like the norm, and even then some people who are like in their early 20s have children. So I don't think it's an issue, I don't think it brings down her date in poor, especially because she has her own businesses. If anything, I think you, just you host, you host, can I you?
Speaker 2:host it down.
Speaker 3:So, if anything, a man will want that type of woman on their arm. I can trust you to help support me at the same time, you know, love me correctly.
Speaker 1:So yeah, um, let's see.
Speaker 1:I would say this that, again, with my level of success, it makes me have more discernment on who I choose to date and it makes me have the ability to ask myself with what I got going on and where I'm at. Do I want this person to come in my life? Do I like this person? Because I don't need anything from this person. So is this person valuable or asset to me? Or will this person come in, bring me down, destroy me or make me lose focus? Right Now, when it comes to my children me and my children we're a package deal, no matter what.
Speaker 2:So it's me and three or none of us at all Me and three.
Speaker 1:However, when I say I don't introduce my children to any man unless we have been together for at least two years.
Speaker 2:So I love that. Yes, hell, no, hell, no Hell no.
Speaker 1:Two years is crazy, I don't think that's great, I think it should be a long time, two years.
Speaker 2:So you dated this man for two straight years right, two straight years and he's never met your kids, like y'all was exclusively together, pretty much dating for two years.
Speaker 1:So let me say this Okay, the guy that I'm no longer with, no, we were together for a little while before my children came along. I don't know how he got me to fall in love with him was through my children. Right Prior to that, yes, I had been single and dating, but never seriously locked in for three years and no man doing that time. My children have only ever seen their father and him. That's it. They know no other man.
Speaker 4:Oh shit. So listen I like what you say I think it should be until you get married. I think it should be until you get married, let's go Hit me out. Hit me out, so you go a hotel hop for years.
Speaker 2:What you going to do? You can't go to somebody's house, you're going to be Mr Johnny for five years, and now you with my mom, that's what you say.
Speaker 4:Understand what I'm saying about that. Understand what I'm saying about that. That's too much information until we married, like why do I need to know all of that? And we ain't even thinking about a long future. Like you said, you made a statement saying he made me fall in love through my kids, meaning you can be great with the kids, the kids get a whole bond with you, but you a mess with the motherfucker though. Like you, a whole mess. Like y'all don't even belong together. Y'all complete opposites. But since you got a connection with my kids, I don't want to hear my kids now all of a sudden saying whatever happened to him or her or whatever it is because of the bond you built, right, so if we're not getting married or talking about anything that has real longevity to it, keep them away. I'm dating you Now. That's when you say me plus the three, that's a package. That's what I said.
Speaker 2:Oh Lord, that's all because I'm not dating your kids.
Speaker 4:I didn't meet your kids at the club. I didn't meet your kids at the, at the, at the, at the planet fitness. I ain't meet your kids with you when I met you. So it wasn't you and your kids, right? Because if I met you and then you had your kids with you and the mother was showing off in public, regardless of how bad you is, regardless of how much about how much you got, I don't want you. You got a whole, you got a crew of motherfuckers that don't even listen to you.
Speaker 2:You got a crew of motherfuckers.
Speaker 4:So why would I want you if they don't listen to you? I ain't going to listen to you. That's what I mean by that. So again, I agree with that, Even if it's two years. Again I think it should be until merge, because that's too much information. Like I don't want you to get close to my kids and I got to cut you off, even though you're a good person to my kids. They'd like you coming to the basketball game. They like when you cheer for them because I ain't going to go. But they like when you there Right, Like on some like real shit. Like if you was dating me and I was teaching you just how to play basketball but you ain't know nothing about basketball. Like damn, he was teaching me the.
Speaker 3:Alan Isaac crossover. Oh, my God Right.
Speaker 4:So when he go at that was like oh, you made me fall in love, so now I got to try to continue this friendship or have something sustainable with you because of my kids. Now that person will be misled because it's like are you keeping them around for your kids? But then when you start dating somebody else it's like yo, I ain't supposed to be like that.
Speaker 2:So you say everybody should do. You agree with that? Do you agree that everybody should, if preferable, everybody should date? Because you were saying earlier which I never had a woman say you have to do something or provide me with a reason to be with you, but for a lot of a long time. If a man says, hey, I need X, y and Z for you to do for me, right, a lot of women get stuck in the I'm independent, I can do my own thing. I need you to do something for me, and that's your logic, right? I'm on the same logic. So ideally, you want a man that's exactly like that.
Speaker 4:Right, real quick. How many men you didn't met that said, is me and my three, and you even taken me and my three or you nine.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:so let me say this oh, please don't tell me you're on dating with kids.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to say that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me say this Right when I meet a man, one of I asked him three questions, and one of them is how many that you had. And then I always asked what are the ages of your children? Because that matters.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:So what matters is if you have two or more children by two or more different women. So you are the problem, okay.
Speaker 2:Wait a minute.
Speaker 1:With their age as well. My children are space far apart, all my children are they with one man?
Speaker 2:No, so you are the You're the problem.
Speaker 1:Okay, excuse me, a woman has children. I truly believe this. A woman has a child for a man based off of what that man has presented to her.
Speaker 1:And you think we don't do the same way, or the dream that he has sold to that woman, right? So, therefore, you lock in and you say, yes, let me say that I do. I ain't just meeting you in one nice thing, okay. What I'm saying is we're going to go through this and we're going to plan this baby. Did all my children plan? Now, when it comes to when, it comes to nice.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, wait because don't take me wrong Right. But when it comes to a situation of I meet a man, he says oh, he has three, four, five, six kids, right.
Speaker 1:The first thing I'm saying is, oh Jesus, to myself. I know I'm not going, but I want to know how many children's mothers do you have? What ages are your children? Do you and your children's mother get along? That's the biggest reflect. If a man cannot get along with his children's mother, okay, majority, let me say this majority of the women want to be a great coper. But that man, because he has lost control and he is bitter, he himself does not make it easy to co-parent. Yeah, now, there are women because they get upset and they get bitter, but it's far less of that than it is of the men, right, and the reason I say that is okay, if you think about it.
Speaker 1:You meet a man. He tell you he got four kids, one, three, two, six. You ain't give your time, no time to yourself, no time to heal, no time to figure out what was going on with this woman. You lay down with her, you're not protected sex and boom, they go, your kids, okay. Versus, let's say you got one child my daughter, my oldest, is 13, right. My next is she just turned 10. But they four years apart, right, it took me four years to trust a man to have a baby again Okay. And then my son he's one. That means they're 13 years apart, 10 years apart and one. So they ain't to say that I ain't had sex in 10 years and 13 years I absolutely have. But have I really said, oh, I can see myself as a baby with that man?
Speaker 2:So Do you want to chime?
Speaker 5:in versus a woman, please I got something to say Because you have children.
Speaker 2:So what do you like to say to this A child? But, a child, a child.
Speaker 3:Honestly, I have dated like men with muscle.
Speaker 2:It's the baby mama's of you.
Speaker 3:I feel like baby mother is such a fucking horrible term. It's crazy, but it's, it's something out there.
Speaker 3:Personally I agree with what she said, because he would say one thing and I'm like, because I've been on the other end, I'm like I know it's too sad for every story. I also felt like he kind of always made it seem like his child, like his children. Oh, I have to do things for my kids. I'm like I'm a single mother myself. I don't have a lot of support, but I still make time for you. It was also kind of like a crutch and I felt like I can't do some more stuff for me. I personally wouldn't want to meet a man with a child. I'm open to it, but I just feel like it's not something that will be interesting because I just don't want to deal with somebody else. That aspect my child's father. He's not existing, you know he come out every birthday, that's it, or whatever.
Speaker 3:So I have no issues, no man knocking down or like saying don't be around my son. But for me personally, I don't want to date anybody with a child, but isn't that hypocritical, because you have one.
Speaker 2:I just said.
Speaker 3:I'm a hypocrite, I know.
Speaker 2:But does that are you saying? Are you going to say that's going to change as you get older, or just just standard?
Speaker 3:I mean it? It it? Like I said, I was open to dating a man with a child. I did. He had two different baby mothers.
Speaker 2:That's the first and last one.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, it was a guy before that. But yeah, I mean it's not something for me. I mean they not here, they work out. So I'm like, I'm just not. It's not something I want to do ever again in life.
Speaker 4:So the reason why I had something to say, because it really, when you say right, you say not want to deal with a man with kids, you said that as well. Right, you want to deal with a man with kids.
Speaker 2:She thinks they have instability. No, it's just that she has.
Speaker 4:More than one or two, it's just. She got three. It's the same one. It's crazy, it's level-citted All right. So this is why this is the question. Remember, we got to this topic because you said being as successful as you are with kids, do you get the man that you desire or do you have that opportunity right In your position, the men for the both of y'all that y'all desire, like that y'all want? Not that you need right, because the man you need is probably an ugly guy that's going to take care of you.
Speaker 4:He's going to love you, right, Succeed, Succeed did I? What I mean by that is because what you desire, even for yourself, you say I prefer not to date a man with kids, and for you it's like stipulations on the kids, right, Like if you got a six or seven year old by the same woman but y'all ain't been together. You know what's stipulations to this shit, right, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2:Right, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 4:You're going to 13 year old, a 10 year old and a one year old and you're not with. I don't know if you're with the one year old. I'm not, actually that question, we're not together. Well, thank you for telling me, but and then you got a one year old that you're not even with. The man you want is going to say the same thing that you said, but the ages just don't seem right. How you got a one year old and you ain't mean with him.
Speaker 2:That don't make sense to you.
Speaker 4:You might say you might say it's the guy, because you waited four years from the first to and then you waited 13, if you want to count the last one and then 10, but he like wait a minute, it got to be her then.
Speaker 2:It got to be her Because you got a one year old and you ain't mean with him so.
Speaker 4:So what you want or desire, the reason why essentially he's not in in the realm of getting is because he, looking at it the exact same way you is. So now you got to settle. Now I'm not saying you in a sense, you got to settle. Now you got to say God damn, now I got to mess with that guy with three baby mothers, what you going?
Speaker 2:to be lonely and susceptible. He got a point.
Speaker 4:He got a point, or you going to just be going around for 10 years having sex regularly and with the fun bun, right With the fun bun, same way, like you, tina, I get it. I understand what you got one child, not even children. You got one child.
Speaker 2:So you're doing.
Speaker 4:But not even doing, because you're doing. No, no, listen, you're going to be more susceptible.
Speaker 2:I will more susceptibly chase a woman that has one child versus her that says I have three and the ages, like you said, are so far apart.
Speaker 4:They should literally be wanting a man to say well, it's me, and mine too, so you even going to set me in mind?
Speaker 2:like I'm going to set you and you on Christmas, you buying them gifts too.
Speaker 4:If I got six, you buying six gifts.
Speaker 1:So let me say this, right, I'm going to say this. So, prior to me having my son, okay, I was open. I, ironically, I've only ever dated one man with a child, right, even though I had my two. I, ironically, it wasn't like this is what I wanted, just what came about right. And so when that happened, I knew that I only had one child left in me. Okay, I knew I didn't want no more. Three was a possibility, but only had.
Speaker 2:I mean two was that when you had the one year old, when you say, you got one One year old, let me get this. Listen. She said she's one child, Didn't start yeah.
Speaker 1:The one child left in me for the right man which would, which should have been my husband. Okay, was the baby that I had, which was my son. Okay, so prior to that, I was very selfish with where I was in my career. I was very selfish with what I had achieved and where I was going, so I didn't want any more children. Right, life was good, my kids we up, whatever. However, the person that I was with, he didn't have any children.
Speaker 2:And you got to get that guy given up.
Speaker 1:Exactly. He didn't have any children and I made a deal with him we stay together five years by this age. If this is what works, I'll give you a child. And so year five he got his child right Exactly. But if you asked me now, would I have dated? If you asked me now, would I have dated a man prior to that did not have children? Yes, now, actually, I only want to date a man that already has a child.
Speaker 2:So you don't got no more left in you.
Speaker 1:I don't want any more children, and so when I met this guy that I talked to now, I didn't think he had children.
Speaker 2:And then you said you didn't think he had children.
Speaker 1:I didn't ask that wasn't a topic of conversation. Well, five years, Wait, wait, wait wait, wait.
Speaker 4:That's not when you said you got three questions. You asked a person when you first meet him.
Speaker 1:I'm not talking about my son's father. I'm talking about the man I talked to now. Okay, but you should already know. Okay, so we didn't get to know, you Listen? I asked him other three questions. This is a whole different story. Okay, but I didn't ask that a question?
Speaker 4:Women hypocrisy you might tell the answer. Okay, I did not ask that a question.
Speaker 1:But I was very vocal about my three and me not wanting any more children. And then, after we dated for a while, he came to me and he told me that he did have a child and I was like, oh, that takes so much pressure off of me.
Speaker 2:Thank God, because maybe it's our child.
Speaker 1:Oh well.
Speaker 4:That's what I meant. So if you think about what that man did, he did what I was saying. That's too much information at the beginning, why you wouldn't even know about my kids anywhere. You don't even know if you like me, so that's why I was saying it that way. So when you say you want to, so when you call that a real flag the three questions you asked is the biggest real flags ever, ever, because you asking about my kids.
Speaker 1:You're asking shit about me. Come on, no, I do so. My three questions are are you?
Speaker 2:a murderer. Now you got six questions. Now she got six questions.
Speaker 1:Are you a pedophile and how many children you got?
Speaker 4:Those are my three questions, and all three of those you can find out for free. You can, you definitely can, you definitely can. And most women they men and if they got friends, that really is in the world like oh, they going to vet that man Trust me.
Speaker 2:So let me ask you all this Do you love love? Do I love love? Yes, no. Do you like being in love, do you?
Speaker 1:like love, I love love. Do you love love?
Speaker 2:Yes, I love love, I love love, I love love, I love, love, I love, love, I love, love, I love love.
Speaker 4:I love love. I love love. Yeah, okay, don't fall all the wrong reasons. Oh yeah, okay, I want to get my to get it off my bucket list and it's all like it's like it's for a wrong reason.
Speaker 2:Don't worry about that. So if everybody loves love, if everybody loves love, has everybody in here dated a successful person in their own right Like an actual successful?
Speaker 4:person. No, I've only ever dated a successful person. I've had sex with them, but never dated them.
Speaker 3:I've had a mixture of scrubs.
Speaker 4:Okay, so mixture scrubs you do what you do, but I think would that deem a successful woman, like overall, like if anybody's seen this person, they can say oh, she's successful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but not to me though because what the fuck?
Speaker 4:What? Because a woman got to make more money than me for me to deem her successful.
Speaker 2:Man, if you make two millions, you make two million. Point five, she's successful.
Speaker 4:She's successful.
Speaker 2:But if she made two million, you made two point five. She's not, she's not.
Speaker 4:What Do I need to explain? See this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this man. That's what I'm asking.
Speaker 4:Exactly. I'm like what? Think about this? Think about this when you hear. You're like God damn why he always right, right. Listen to what I'm telling you. If a woman makes more money than me, that means she going to love me for me. She's not going to love me for what I provide for her, but if she make a damn in the same amount as you, she not worried about what you got.
Speaker 2:That means she love me for me. Right, so she don't have to make more money than you to love you for you. Well, you even make a two million with me, or two point one, okay. So back to my question.
Speaker 4:It's the same difference If you're dating successful man as you said If you make it less, if you financially make it less than me, you will never love me for me, in my, in my eyes. What scumbuckers do you mean? He's not scumbuck. We talked about the presentation of women. The presentation of women is what To be took in care. Am I saying something wrong?
Speaker 2:We talking about love, right.
Speaker 4:Agreed Right, but that's still love, that's still love.
Speaker 2:What I'm saying is, the presentation is more than that. Thanks, cousin, but that one though, yeah, but a love of money.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying. I'm saying Bell's Curve, tell you, is more likely for somebody to love you for your money than them loving you for you.
Speaker 2:So stick with that. That's all I'm saying. You only date successful men. What, let's just put it out there what have your men career wise been?
Speaker 1:So let me say this it's not that I only date successful men you literally just said that. No, what I'm saying is I said I've only ever dated successful men. So that's mean you only date successful men, so that is what I have attracted, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 2:You ain't never inscribed no bombs London.
Speaker 4:You like skin, I'm not going to say that, let me say this that's a guy right here at 711.
Speaker 2:That would love you to death. To death, bro. He might not be, but I don't mean that.
Speaker 1:But no, honestly, I could definitely say I have dated men that have all been successful and they're right, and I actually have been the person that built them up or gave them some substance so that they themselves could reach.
Speaker 4:My son's father.
Speaker 1:I made him a million and six months Period. Come on.
Speaker 4:Listen, the youngest one.
Speaker 2:Listen my son, yeah, sometimes you are just you made him a million and six months and six months.
Speaker 5:Go ahead, hold on how you, how you, how you turned to my two million and six months.
Speaker 3:Next subject I mean, I know she said she used to get it illegally but God damn.
Speaker 1:Next subject that's what I'm saying. I got six free months in my life.
Speaker 2:My girls dad what you called it.
Speaker 1:We were together when we were younger, but it's before my child's, before my girl's dad got injured. He was a millionaire.
Speaker 2:That you made him one.
Speaker 1:We came up together. Yeah, who are?
Speaker 2:you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we came up together. You're a plug.
Speaker 4:No, I got six free months in my life.
Speaker 3:Right now I don't want you, I'm not going to stop you to that baby.
Speaker 2:But, coming from success, would you have a? You know, you got the three kids, you got your own business, and a man is always successful. Say he don't want no kids. I think it's good. Now, does that y'all put the time in? I'm going to ask you this honestly Does his wealth and his success make it more acceptable and understanding if he cheats?
Speaker 1:Baby, why you think I'm a single right now. We ain't going there. We going to keep switching the subject. But, baby, let me tell you this If, if, if I was a woman that did not have self-worth, I would have turned the other cheek because baby life was good. However, because I have self-worth and I have my own and I made myself and then made you, I would have never stayed, because I would never be the woman that went from the wife to the side chick Absolutely not.
Speaker 4:You want to answer that too? No, no. So I got a question, you got to make sure she answered.
Speaker 2:Tina, If he was successful, wildly accessible money, are you staying? Would you flip from being a girl for a side piece In the Nigerian culture? A lot of, a lot of men have wives here in Nigeria.
Speaker 3:They come over and they have their fun. So it's accepting in my culture. Like women kind of look against it, Like divorces look down upon things like that. I mean personally me, I agree, Like I have self-worth. I wouldn't want that. But you know, in the past, in my gold digger era, you know, when I went to say care of me, I wasn't against it. First off, every female had a gold digger era.
Speaker 4:So, and the whole thing.
Speaker 3:No, no, no.
Speaker 2:She was with the gold digger era. She said, hell yes, sis, whole phase he lost me. I was with the gold digger.
Speaker 4:Shit though Do you be considered Americanized Essentially, then right.
Speaker 3:I mean, I grew up here, but I was born in there, so you're okay, so my question to you my question success, right.
Speaker 4:We talk about success and we talk about once you hit a certain mark. You success right? We successful right, we demon successful. Does sex now supersede success? What you mean? Sex? Does good sex supersede, good sex supersede success?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 4:If he giving you good sex, do it now. Allow him to do even more Hell no, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1:Let me tell you something A man will continue to do what you allow him to do.
Speaker 2:That's a fact.
Speaker 1:So, therefore, if again, if I say, oh babe, keep telling the blind eye, it's what it is. Never open my mouth, don't say nothing. Right? He's going to now get better at cheating, because I didn't figure out how he did this, how he did this, how he did this. So now it's going to be A level one.
Speaker 4:Let's eliminate cheating. Let's go with something a little more understanding in a relationship. They mental abuse. Right Now I want to say to the extreme let's just use regular like regular. We argue a lot.
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Speaker 5:You got to stop using Jit and everything because you're not saying it. What is it A Jit? Yeah, it's some South Florida song.
Speaker 2:It's a Florida thing.
Speaker 5:All it is is talking about someone younger or smaller than you. Like my co-host said, I'm the new co-host of the Vox podcast.
Speaker 3:Congratulations.
Speaker 5:Thank you thank you, thank you, thank you. He took a chance on me because I thought, voice, that I was interested in getting into the podcast game. He decided to go ahead and give me opportunity.
Speaker 5:I think doing a couple of shows with him, that's dope, so I appreciate him for that. But back to the topic at hand. I'm going to let you ask your question, but I want I've been sitting in the back and I've been listening to everything being said I want to say this it two things One, one one, she ready, she going go boy. I think it's on, I think stuff went wrong. I think some guys it's it's guys will put up with the children more often than the women will. But I think that's that's crazy, that y'all won't do the same thing, vice versa. That's a fact.
Speaker 1:I think it's a good money. Put up with the women because they get okay, and so I'm sorry.
Speaker 5:If I'm, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm into you, it is, but if I'm into you, I already know from the jump that you are a packaged deal. I already know that you're a packaged deal when I get involved with you from the jump especially if I'm buying with you because, because, because y'all know y'all know this better than we do Y'all can tell the difference between a guy that that's coming with bullshit, how how you think have these mother kids out here, you know?
Speaker 1:what you know, you know you know what I can tell y'all know?
Speaker 2:y'all know, y'all know, y'all know, y'all know how I know that, y'all know how I know that, because y'all can.
Speaker 5:Y'all can pick, y'all can pick out the guys that's coming to the table, that's that's putting on for show, and I and I and she don't that's the ones y'all really want. Y'all don't want the ones that that's really out here in the trenches doing what they got to do.
Speaker 5:Y'all want the ones that's that's play pimping Y'all want y'all want the ones that that's like you said earlier, that's, that's really out here in the trenches doing what they got to do, and then, like you said earlier, um that, that that put up a that, that fake it till you make it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they want. They want the ones that everybody in the sense one right, I'm beyond like we like it's one of the ones where we all want the ones that everybody want and then when you get the one that everybody want, it was really some bullshit, in a sense 13, 10 and one.
Speaker 3:Oh, excuse me.
Speaker 1:You being funny, because I've never had the one everybody want. I've been the one everybody want, so let me go ahead.
Speaker 4:Let me go ahead Let me give you all the examples.
Speaker 5:Let me give you all both an example.
Speaker 1:I'm a you girls, that has traumatic brain injury. That's why we not together. So I'm, I'm, I'm going to give.
Speaker 5:I'm going to give it. Give both y'all an example you I'm using. I'm going to use myself as the example. Take me out of what I currently have on everything, say I'm wearing some basic.
Speaker 4:There it goes, so some basics.
Speaker 5:I'm a real basic and I don't like that. I don't look like I have no one.
Speaker 5:I'm just going to the, I'm just going to the store real quick, or something like that. But you see a guy that has on, you got, you got a God as God you got you see. So you see me at the store. You wouldn't think, you wouldn't even think to stop and let me, and let me have a conversation with you. But the guy that's coming with the Gucci belt and the Fendi t-shirt and all of that stuff From your corner store, yeah, this guy from around the way Y'all can give him the time of day for y'all you are absolutely wrong, sir.
Speaker 1:Okay, let me tell you why. Because I walk out the house with my head halfway done. Sometime I wear my favorite clover line of you from Walmart, okay, which is sweatpants, shirt, stuff like that, or I put on some Adidas or something like that. I don't look this good unless I'm going. Okay, when you got money you ain't got to put on. Okay. So if I see a guy designer down, I know that he is broke. Okay, so I'm not always also trust and believe, okay.
Speaker 1:Also, if you're going somewhere, okay, and you see a man in a regular t-shirt or something like that, I know quality of clothing. So therefore I'm like, okay, he didn't pay $2,500 for that white regular t-shirt. Where's the guy that got the fake Amiri plastered across your shirt? Okay, also, I'm looking at shoes, I'm looking at watches. There's certain staple pieces that you watch. I got a father and my daddy come correct all the time, okay. So therefore, no, I'm not sitting here going oh, he got a Gucci belt on this. Actually, I'm laughing at the inside of my head going, uh, this Bama, look at this. Okay, bama, you're wrong again.
Speaker 4:Okay, Because, when it comes to the majority, in her response though that's why I'm, that's how I fucking with it.
Speaker 5:I see majority because I'm telling you right now, I can tell you right now, she's not, she's not nobody in her early 20s, she not, she not, she not, no, but she's not no young. You would have thought you were Bush. Yeah, you're not a young, you're not a young.
Speaker 3:She's an African term and Nigerian term for somebody who just like just came overseas. So they think they look like I would have like. Oh, he just like a Bush guy, I wanted you to talk about me. No, no, no, no, no no no, no, no no no no, no, no, no no whatever. So I would have naturally thought she was like Bush or whatever. I thought. I would have thought that yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, like I can tell I can see the majority
Speaker 4:in her response and her demeanor. They're not mature in responsees. But go ahead. You know what I'm not we're not gonna do that. I'm not gonna get involved in that at all, but what?
Speaker 5:I'm saying is you can tell when it just like demographic age group, it matters. It matters because you're not going to have no conversation with nobody. That's that, don't that. Can't have the same conversation as you.
Speaker 4:But the weird part is and I know you the Walmart gear, et cetera, et cetera. It's a big difference from a woman wearing those things than a man. Let's hear me out, hear me out. What I mean by that is a man and the way you're presented and I'm not going to even defend and say we not a man going to sleep with anybody, anything Like she, walk outside with anything. What I'm gonna say?
Speaker 5:I'm not agreeing with you. So for a woman to come outside, I'm not agreeing with you and that would be all, brother, I'm just gonna be real.
Speaker 4:So listen, I'm not going to disagree with the standards portion. I'm I'm agree with it, but I'm saying for a man a woman's standards are so high she's not going to allow that.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. It depends.
Speaker 4:Everything depends we not talking about.
Speaker 1:Let me say this If you have a $250 white, t-shirt.
Speaker 4:That's still a standard. As you know, in the thread count, if it's a 600 thread t-shirt compared to a 100 thread t-shirt, you know the difference. If you lay on a hundred thread sheets compared to a 600 thread sheet set, you know the difference. That's the. That's what I mean by the standards. A man don't care if it's a hundred thread sheet set.
Speaker 5:Sure, sure Don't. I'm not disagreeing with you.
Speaker 4:I'm not. I'm not saying they shouldn't, I'm saying that's the case. That's the reason why, as a woman, you can walk outside with something from Walmart that costs $10 or or or sheen that costs $4 and it rip away soon as you try to run. You can wear that shit and a man ain't going to care. But if a man going by something from sheen you're going to tell the sheen I mean I'm not supposed to be saying that Men ain't supposed to be wearing that shit.
Speaker 3:We know how to like look aesthetically pleasing. So we'll date a man. I feel like if you, if you're, if you're handsome. So if I saw you looking like that natural I'm like, okay, he's a project, I can work with him. I'm going to start taking out pants.
Speaker 2:I don't like and be like.
Speaker 3:oh, you know, like, I don't mind I don't mind styling him, but I just feel like it depends on women, Aesthetically. We just know how to put things better.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry for you.
Speaker 5:That's the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life, that's how I do it. I'm like I'm sorry, that's the, that's the, that's the craziest thing. That's the crazy thing I've heard in my life. I might have gone back to you.
Speaker 3:I'll help you get to the level I want you to be at aesthetically like that I have.
Speaker 4:I'm doing it. I've literally never heard a woman say that and really mean it, Like that's different. Hey, listen, I'm over here, Like I'm over. I'm over here.
Speaker 5:Like in my mind.
Speaker 4:I'm like she got the mud. She got the mud. She got you out the mud. Yeah, she got you out the mud.
Speaker 3:Project. That's crazy, Not the tube I'm saying. So I got a question here Even when.
Speaker 4:So, since we talking about materialistics or how we look, is it one brand a man can wear that it'd be like yeah, I know he got a classy type of vibe right, like what I mean by that is I grew up on polo Ralph, on polo right. Everybody from West Baltimore we wore polo, like everything was polo. I even even trick daddy song. He wanted a whole sponsorship through polo. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:That's one of those staple brands.
Speaker 4:That brand, been around forever, is a staple brand, almost like Jordans it's a staple brand. Is it one of those? Is it a brand that a man or woman that can wear, that you can be like? You know what I can tell you they're a cool person, or not necessarily cool person, somebody that you would date Like if you got like if you got on Jordans. It's like one of the ones like all right, at least I know he, he wear Jordans. Right Cause to a woman. Again, y'all can wear Walmart shoes right, so the new balances, that's not your shoe.
Speaker 1:Sir who you?
Speaker 3:think that I should, that is definitely out of the blue.
Speaker 5:I ain't gonna lie, that's, that's, that's, that's definitely a DC thing, Like I said, I've only been here for a year. New balances I knew nothing about new balances till I moved here.
Speaker 1:The gray fresh nanotubes.
Speaker 5:I knew nothing about. I knew nothing about new balances till I moved to the DMV area period. No, no, no, like I listen, I have now, now that I've lived up, I live up here and I've been up here for a while, I went home. I went home. I'm like, like I do, I'm rich. I'm rich from Florida.
Speaker 4:Born and raised down south. Born and raised down south.
Speaker 5:Born and raised down south Born from Florida. So when I went back home recently, I wore it. I don't wear nothing Like you know what I'm saying, like I would this, this is this, is it for us? What's a Gucci? Oh, I know what a Gucci is. I'm like what, what, what what, what, what?
Speaker 1:Well, your term of Gucci might be different from ours, okay, so what is your term of?
Speaker 5:Gucci, so Bamas is not a good thing.
Speaker 4:Okay, that's that, okay, so, yeah. So I don't like the DC people. They call us Bamas.
Speaker 5:Okay, so I. So we call we we. We normally we call people from outside of where we're from. We call them Bamas, because, yeah, we hear y'all talk. We think y'all are weird. Y'all weird the way y'all talk, cause everybody says since I moved over here, everybody thinks I'm country. You is a guy here, I know, you know, we all country said you are the proper way.
Speaker 1:I said you is Like.
Speaker 4:But, like all of us, below the face of this one, exactly, exactly, we the first Southern state Because I'm so because when I got up here, y'all, y'all are, I know, I know now.
Speaker 5:I did say, I did say I did say I did say I did say I did say he's a guy who's like, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I don't know. I mean I'm not sure. Yeah, I did say. I did say y'all are Southern, y'all are Southern. I did say y'all y'all were a Southern state. It's just everything that y'all do up here is more northerner, Cuz I'm not from here down south.
Speaker 1:What you consider that we do is more northern.
Speaker 5:I think we just more flashier that we like, we just the way we, the way we put on for people, the way we put on is not the same way. Y'all will put on Y'all. When y'all put on, y'all put on like you said. What you just said, we were jewelry gold.
Speaker 5:That's how we put on. We, we wear jewelry. We're where it goes. It may be if we may wear a certain type of hat or where I have a certain way. That's how we put on. But as far as spending the money on like real life clothes, real live clothes. I didn't start spending money on clothes. I moved up here. I'm gonna lie to you. My drip was real, was real, simple, real not, was not it was flat.
Speaker 5:No, not anymore, not anymore. Maybe back in the day. That's crazy. Back in the day, that's great back in the day. Yes, that was the, that was the trend back in the day. But as far as like, polo was probably about the biggest brand from down south polo. But then for us it's really like we were Nike, we were Adidas, stuff like that, especially because down Florida it's really majority of like our athletes, you feel me. So that's that. The drip for us is gonna be something that's dealing with some type of athlete.
Speaker 4:They don't make that much money selling drugs.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 4:I'm not gonna elaborate on that at all, but but up here when I gotta appear, we nick, when down up north cuz it, cuz it. The areas are so small, it's so much, it's so much easier in the metropolitan areas.
Speaker 5:You gonna make more money up here. You gonna make more money up here.
Speaker 4:No, it's the opportunity. When there's more people, you get more opportunities.
Speaker 5:Yes, more people see we have more, we have more people, but because it's so space, you don't get the opportunity. You not. You not coming across the central Florida, that from down south. Yeah, you're not coming central Florida to try and step on the body.
Speaker 4:Oh, I'm not with a nickel and down boy on the corner because that's the faster. Money, like even up north is even harder to make a lot of money. And again, this is more so what they present even on television. You watch power. You watch any of these shows. It still show that you Gotta get rid of so much more living in another area to make the same kind of money. That's somebody on the corner, me.
Speaker 5:I will say this Y'all need the one of you guys from down south right.
Speaker 4:No, I am, I'm from early, y'all y'all, y'all.
Speaker 5:I promise you, if you were putting a room with Guys from here, guys from around Rigi, for y'all will flock more to the women, the guys from when I'm from then, the guys from here because they can take advantage of them. No. More witty y'all up here take more advantage.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I feel like the women in up the north are witty. They just as witty as a is a man. They witty like like they can literally explain to you a whole story. You miss it and all you heard was her smiling at you literally down south is like you just gonna see what I look like.
Speaker 5:So y'all got talk game up here, I will give y'all. I got talking and they're gonna give y'all. I got talk crazy.
Speaker 4:Would y'all agree? And again this you coming from what you from here, so you're Americanizing everything but.
Speaker 3:I know my culture.
Speaker 4:Do you believe that who takes advantage of who more a women? Men, men take advantage of women?
Speaker 1:Okay, explain. Oh God, where do I start?
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Man will see a woman bossed up on her stuff, doing good got it together. He will weevil his way and make it seem like, oh, he want to be on the same as oh, baby, I got you why he dropping her off in her business here, her car.
Speaker 1:I'm going to pick up the next person doing this, doing that. See when she making her money he coming home. Baby, let me, I'm about to go start this car business. Let me get this very quick so I could flip this. Oh, babe, all right, I could go, we could plug right quickly. No men see successful women and they get jealous Undercover and try to tear them down. Versus women saying a man that's on his and like, damn, all right, you know what, let me go in, let me play my part, let me learn. Yeah, man, I could teach you something. Baby, let me tell you something. Man, I could teach you something. One of the best things out here, okay, a woman that could teach you something. Even though we're the best thing out here, we get to an advantage of so much.
Speaker 5:I'm sorry I'm about to say no, all, not all men do the same thing. I'm just being real because I'm listening to it and I'm just like I don't. I know some guys that are like that, but I don't know. First off, you just say the Atlanta Atlanta. Atlanta is a different, atlanta is the south, but we, we leave Atlanta by their self because they're things that happen in Atlanta that you will not see, no, where else.
Speaker 5:I will say that there's things that you will see in Atlanta. You will not see, that you will not see anywhere else. I'm gonna be on.
Speaker 4:So have you ever heard that before the whole chocolate city thing, the whole DC has the same type of Thing?
Speaker 1:that Atlanta have. So they do say that it's a lot of deal, men.
Speaker 4:And you say, okay, I'm just saying I heard that before. That's the reason why I said it's like Atlanta, when I ex or they men Cuz, that's Baltimore men.
Speaker 4:We ain't like nothing else that these women be running into. This is, and what I mean by that is because we don't. We don't grow up with the state of Maryland, because I know you all do they love us and I thought the same way about when it comes to like DC people is like yo. They differ from everywhere else. That little a spot, like it's a whole state, but it's literally shit.
Speaker 1:Like it's like five meters away from each other, right, but it's so I'll say this right when it comes Baltimore makes versus DC mate, I will always take a DC man over Baltimore. Right, baltimore. I say that With DC we come with a mentality of survival. Respect, get on right. Ya'll come from doggy dog and it don't matter what the situation is, how it's presented to y'all. Y'all have no freaking coof as men. Okay, now all that's right.
Speaker 1:If I say who's more level headed? Right, dc guys. There is a southern, as a certain southern hospitality that they're still exposed. Right, yes, absolutely. But I have yet to meet a Baltimore guy that has Even allowed me to put my shoulders down.
Speaker 4:Like the sex does super see any success, then because your naming guys that if a guy really try and come to your spot and cop a Squat, the right guy come in.
Speaker 5:The right guy come in. And right guy come in as faking it to you till you make it and he crack your back. I'm letting her run out. He's squatting. He's squatting at the career.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying like there's a lot of guys.
Speaker 5:That's all they know is if they, if they get the opportunity to crack your back, they not going nowhere because they know what they do, what they working with.
Speaker 1:I don't know, everybody don't get that.
Speaker 3:You can find good sex again. I personally feel like after awhile I'm noticing, hey, you know what, you kind of staying longer than you should stay, you starting to get emotionally and I kind of cut that off. I feel, like specifically, I will say single mothers, because we've been through so much emotionally with men we're more hip to it, we're more aware, like, okay, I know what type of nigga you are.
Speaker 4:You just had a lot more sex than most women would.
Speaker 3:You know what?
Speaker 4:don't do that.
Speaker 1:Absolutely not. It's nothing wrong with having a lot of sex. What do?
Speaker 4:people think is one of the things about we're y'all finding it it's better to have casual sex, or what y'all call meaningless sex. Before putting a title on sex Like women that walk around wanting to put a title on sex. That's the second biggest real flag.
Speaker 5:The ones that want to talk about friends with benefits.
Speaker 4:That's the first one, any female that tell you she got to be friends with the person that she having sex with. She the first real flag ever, like because nobody meets somebody to say, yo, that's gonna be my friend. I've never met a woman that said she's gonna be my friend. Why, oh my God? Hey, yo, you see her, that's gonna be my friend. You don't fucking meet people like that. And ain't no girl ever accepting a man number.
Speaker 5:So you're talking to her and saying you know what? So you're trying to say that's gonna be my Hold on, like we gonna be talking about. So you're talking to the doctor. So you're trying to say women can't be friends with men and men can't be friends with women. Attractive people.
Speaker 4:To attract the people can't be friends with each other that you see attractive to each other.
Speaker 5:So if you so you're trying to say, if you see me, me and her out and we hanging out, there's no sexual relation going on between two of us, you're gonna automatically think that we're.
Speaker 4:If there's two people that's attracted to each other, they're not gonna be genuine friends. It's always gonna be an underlying factor of wanting to have sex with that person. Listen to what you ask and listen to the response. Two people that are attracted to each other they're not gonna be genuine friends.
Speaker 4:They're not because the underlying is if they ever happen to slip up, we're gonna have sex, and you should not be having sex with your friend. You allow your friend too much information. So, for instance, a friend is somebody that should be able to check up on your kid without you even checking up on them. A friend should be somebody that can go to your parent house without you even knowing they went to your fucking parent house. A friend should be able to somebody to come to a graduation or an event without you even knowing they're coming. That's a friend. That's the dynamics of a friend.
Speaker 4:So two people that are attracted to each other will never be genuine friends. We're not gonna say they can't put on the facade, that's my friend. But come on now we ain't going out of town together and we both get drunk and we ain't gonna have sex. That's insane, especially if I'm attracted to you. We ain't gonna stay in the same hotel room, we ain't gonna do nothing to you and if you're my friend, if you're a friend of the opposite sex, I done, done it about three, four, five, six times.
Speaker 4:I don't care, them guys wasn't cute.
Speaker 3:But, if you were the same I slept in the same bed with my sister. Friend, we ain't never happened.
Speaker 4:Come on, come out. If he your friend, you can get dressed in front of him naked Right away.
Speaker 5:Yes, if he cute you not yes. I will To you. He might not be cute. To somebody else he might be cute.
Speaker 3:It's the men who feel that way. Women, it's like you look ugly to me, like you, just you, my friend.
Speaker 4:That's what I just said.
Speaker 3:If he ugly, I'm saying, if you're both attractive, I'm ugly but I'm saying that's how I demon ass, like I have a male friend who I'm close with.
Speaker 2:He ugly to you, right no?
Speaker 3:he's not ugly. He gets business. I ain't gonna lie. He gets females or whatever. But we have that dynamic where we know nothing will happen. We're not physically attracted to each other that way. That's what.
Speaker 4:I just said, instead of two attractive people, two people that's attracted to each other. They're never gonna be genuine friends. It's no way. It doesn't work like that. Okay, I see I mean she said she's done it six times. She said she done it twice, like I'm like, wait man, how.
Speaker 5:Like that's the prerogative.
Speaker 1:Actually, not even most. All of my male friends, no, most of them. Most of my male friends come from childhood right. That is the genuine, true bond.
Speaker 5:I will agree with that. That's more genuine than most.
Speaker 1:You know that that's my brother, that's my cousin, whatever you want to call the person right. Versus meeting a guy on the street and then getting that person's number and then being like, oh whatever, we're gonna be friends. Normally that doesn't work, but that childhood sandbox friendship that you got you don't ever.
Speaker 5:Shout out to the sandbox.
Speaker 1:Shout out to the sandbox, but you don't have a look at that person like, oh, I want to do this, I want to do that, I do. I have male friends that I have definitely traveled with, gone here to all type of stuff. Come over my house, c-po, all type of stuff, and never no, there's no, you are, so they are not. And never once have I been like, oh, I want to cross the line, slapping the same bed, all of that, but never once. That's it All right, all right?
Speaker 5:Yes, hey, man. So let me go ahead and ask this question, man. No, I get it. Let me go ahead.
Speaker 4:You enjoy it right, right ain't my friend oh yeah, that don't make sense.
Speaker 1:It does sometimes. You just want the comfort of a man. Like that's my cousin, that's my blood cousin, right, you can't get comfort from somebody, you, I'm going to tell you that's my blood, cousin, right.
Speaker 5:So hold on, let me ask you this Before you. So you try to tell me if a man well, your male friend that you, like his company, wants to and you want to cuddle with this man and his did get hard. That's the problem.
Speaker 1:I just did it Friday.
Speaker 5:yes, Okay, let me see him Yo.
Speaker 4:Let me see him.
Speaker 5:Hey, for the brother that was involved in this situation, I am so sorry. I am absolutely Listen, listen for the brother that was involved in this on Friday. I'm so sorry, brother, because I know for sure, I know for sure, when your dick got hard, you was expecting to smash that night. I promise to God, I know you, listen, I have female friends. But I'm telling you right now, if you are my, I do have female friends. They gotta be ugly. No, they, we grew up together. Like she said, we grew up together. They still ugly. No, they're not fucking, they're not ugly. But my thing is, I'm not cuddling with them. I'm not cuddling with them, I'm not laying in the same bed with them. I'm not gonna let them get. I'm not gonna let them get.
Speaker 3:But you guys, they all walk together and they're like, and they're like dressed club is higher, Like the pic.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but they do all that without me being around so you never melt. To the club with your female friends. Yeah, I've been to the club with my female friends, but I'm saying, is they're not getting in dressed in front of me?
Speaker 3:But I'm saying like they're still in that, like that, and your friends will, you don't find them ugly, I'm listening.
Speaker 5:So I'm really like the guy, that's the friend, that's like, okay, we go to the club. Essentially, I turn into security.
Speaker 4:I turn into security. That's not your project. I turn into security.
Speaker 5:I don't want to be supposed to go to the NFL, I turn into security. It makes sense now. I turn into security. I legit turn into security with my own, with the female friends that I may go out with. I turn into security. They're not saying they're at the club dancing on me because I'm their friend or nothing like that. That's crossing the boundary for me, because we friends, we cool, we not. Because I'm telling you right now, if you dance with me, what happens happens at that point. What happens happens at that point Because if I can't tell you, I'm not going to do this Immediately after I get who misused friend more Men or women?
Speaker 4:Men, what the fuck? What the fuck Y'all just don't.
Speaker 5:Y'all don't care about me.
Speaker 1:Everybody y'all friend. Everybody y'all friend.
Speaker 3:When I was up there they, and really that's what Gucci cussed the whole time, sorry. That's what Exactly Right?
Speaker 1:A Gucci cuss.
Speaker 3:A Gucci cuss, and then another female who has had the same penis as out of you. That's like your Gucci cuss. Please share Like that's what it is.
Speaker 5:That's why. That's why. So y'all got the nerve Hold on so y'all got the nerve to kill a guy off for him and his friends. Don't sleep with the same chick, but it's OK when y'all do it.
Speaker 1:I ain't ever had that no.
Speaker 5:So that's what they're saying. So if two guys smash the same girl, it's frowned upon, but when y'all you and your homegirl they'll smash the same nigga, it's OK.
Speaker 1:Most of the time it's accidental. Yes, men know what they be doing.
Speaker 5:First off, it's never accidental, because guess what? Y'all go back and tell y'all friends everything. So you don't tell. So you ain't never told your homegirl about the nigga that you.
Speaker 4:Listen, I'm going to tell you Women take Ls in private. Bro, I learned that women take Ls in private. Women be out here sleeping with 10, 15, dating 10, 15 men all at the same time. They do it in private, though, so that's the reason why you think Like she said for 10 years. You think I wasn't having sex. No, she was.
Speaker 5:She was doing it in privacy of her home.
Speaker 4:No, not even in privacy of her home, it was just in private. Whereas those people in the public sector they didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 5:I feel you, so let me ask this question.
Speaker 4:The whole phase exists for women all the time. It's not a bad thing. It's not like it's a bad. Y'all take it as a bad thing because it's the it's what another woman has.
Speaker 5:It's not a bad thing. It's growing pains, I feel like. So you're your whole phase.
Speaker 4:That's why I like.
Speaker 3:I'm not in my whole phase, oh you out of it. I went to Morgan.
Speaker 4:State. Oh, you already know how I went. So I'm about to say if you went to.
Speaker 5:Morgan.
Speaker 2:State you went to.
Speaker 5:Morgan.
Speaker 1:State.
Speaker 5:Hold on. Morgan State recruited me for football. I've been to visits at Morgan State.
Speaker 3:I already know what's up at Morgan State. I don't know nothing about it. I don't know nothing about how I went.
Speaker 5:But Morgan State? Listen, I visited Morgan State back in 2000. I'm gonna say this was like 2013.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Listen Crazy.
Speaker 2:Crazy, crazy.
Speaker 5:Listen, two years that I was recruited by Morgan State back in high school. I promise you that was crazy, because going to visit there was like Any HBCU that I visited was always the same story Like when I go to the PWIs. It's one thing. They keep a lot of this stuff low key HBCUs. Y'all put everything on front street. Y'all use that as a recruiting technique.
Speaker 4:They do. So let's go with recruiting right. Let's use recruiting as the term right. We're gonna use recruiting when you go through your recruitment phase.
Speaker 3:I feel it's necessary so that way, when you actually meet like your soulmate, your partner, you now out here looking you like I mean, I've dealt with them. Dealt with like men do it too, but it's just different because we're women and it's like you rather have.
Speaker 5:Hold on what you mean by dealing with that.
Speaker 3:I feel like a man doesn't want to know that their partner has had like multiple dicks inside of them.
Speaker 5:Y'all find it just weird.
Speaker 3:But, we should be okay with the fact that Jive stuck your dick in multiple pussies. It's just weird, Like it doesn't make any sense. If you want it to be equal, like you said, I don't think it should matter Fair, like you said it's fair.
Speaker 2:Excuse me, it shouldn't matter.
Speaker 3:It's like I'm with you now. Why are you worried about Tom Dick Harold Like it shouldn't matter.
Speaker 5:I agree with that. I agree with that. I'm not gonna lie to you. I agree with that. Once we're together, all our past stuff, this is not the window in my opinion. So, hold on. I gotta ask a question real fast, so a little off topic. So if y'all were talking to y'all younger selves, would y'all younger selves be proud of you right now currently?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Yeah, I would, I would.
Speaker 5:Go ahead and elaborate on that.
Speaker 1:So my younger self, I could ask this question a lot. You know they always want to end as a. What would you say to your younger self? And I would tell my younger self don't you change your motherfucking thing.
Speaker 4:Yes, had that 10 years. You know that 13, 10 and 1? You better had that 10 years.
Speaker 5:Continue doing all of that the same way, because it's gonna be growing Pans. When that comes, what?
Speaker 3:about you we talking about. Yeah, I definitely feel like she's proud of me. She probably would say you know, you're definitely more confident than you give yourself credit for, so she might go ahead, girl, that's dope With that bravado you.
Speaker 5:Mr Tox, I'm gonna go ahead and ask you the same question. Big dog, Come on.
Speaker 4:My younger self would probably be like yo. You turned out a little worse than what I expected.
Speaker 4:That's crazy, like, seriously like because when I was a kid I was a nerd, so I did sign language I sung in a choir I did more crazy stuff that that stuff in the hood you couldn't do right, like I was singing in a choir, doing sign language. But I couldn't go on Pennsylvania Avenue down McCullochomes and Murphy Homes and be like yo, I'm in a choir, right. So I know for a fact my younger self would be like I ain't think you was gonna be that bad Is this a like.
Speaker 5:Hey, I agree. Hey, listen, Now I'm saying.
Speaker 4:I ain't bad in the sense of success, but when it comes to success, I'm deemed one of those special type of men where, regardless if I got 17 kids, I'm still one of those special type of men, right?
Speaker 1:And I'm gonna reserve my. I'm gonna reserve my peace. What? Because, baby, I can sweep the floor with you and run circles, but I ain't gonna do it, okay, no?
Speaker 4:I'm trying to listen to what I'm trying to say. So my younger self would be like yeah, you're a lot more successful than what we probably would have thought, compared to how I was when I was a younger guy, but he'd definitely be like you crazy.
Speaker 1:now Can I ask you what it is that you do?
Speaker 4:I'm a logistics manager. Okay, I'm a logistics manager, so I tell people how to make five beauty salons in six months.
Speaker 5:So tell me what's next for the business.
Speaker 1:Growth, expansion, more schools.
Speaker 5:I just wanna say more schools, more shops open up.
Speaker 1:I just went back and got my master's. So I'm back in my I'm a nurse, so I just went back and got my master's, so now I'm an MP. I want to be able to bridge the two with aesthetics and beauty and everything together. So expansion, bigger space coming in, being able to teach the dermas, the fillers, all of the plastic surgery that I do behind the scenes that no one knows that I'm into. Okay that's what's up I like that Six months.
Speaker 4:We could probably have it in three months. We could make it happen.
Speaker 5:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:That is why I just looked at my watch too.
Speaker 4:I got time my DL saying this, so same question for you what's next in the business?
Speaker 5:For me, yes, well I actually work for two associations.
Speaker 3:One we're teaching AI to African Americans how we start small businesses. So it was exciting to hear you as far as like Nails and all that, because technically, ai is gonna take away all of the things like program management, so the service, that's something that's gonna be really big. So we're trying to implement somehow like collaborate the two. We're working on that and then I also work with association that deals with interior design and specifically I work with like the student engagement part and we're trying to get like more black interior designers.
Speaker 3:We're trying to like really diversify because it's nothing, but you know white people right now, so that's what's up, Okay.
Speaker 5:I feel you. Definitely, yes, absolutely, Mr Toss. What's next in the business for you?
Speaker 4:man, everything is next in business. Right, I'm going to collaborate with no, you're not no, and service no. I mean, the crazy thing is, this is my thing, this is my thing.
Speaker 5:We love every time Mr Toss comes on the show man.
Speaker 4:What I'm saying is like no, I'm working on a brand new club, Absolutely. Hopefully, we call it Toshibo, right.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 4:It means fun, good, exciting, in Japanese right it's a Japanese name. My grandma was Japanese, so that's where the name come from. So I'm working on this club right now, this big adventure With the Vibes, my god.
Speaker 5:Yes, sir, I'm a very, very partner.
Speaker 4:I put a business plan together and everything like that. So that's what's next. But what's right now is, if you want to find out anything specific to the glow, you should say go to wwwkappachicom and you can find anything that can glow with you. Now grow with you glow with you, right?
Speaker 2:This has been a show. I appreciate everybody for coming on. Toss, you can always do your thing. This has been another lovely episode of the Vibes Podcast. Man. Shout out again to the sponsors Bubbles Galore. Shout out again to the newest sponsors Sandbox. Go to wwwsandboxcollectioncom. Use code Vibes V-I-B-3-Z, get that 10% off. I ain't gonna say I'm gonna take something from it, but you know, do your thing. And shout out to the new co-host of Vibes Podcast man, you know, the dark skin, clark Kennids, what they call them, the dark skin.
Speaker 4:Clark Kennids.
Speaker 2:The relationship. Man, you know NFL, maybe you know sports kinda, so I'm gonna let you guys tell where everybody can reach you at you.
Speaker 1:I mean, If you want to find me. Mrs London is my personal Instagram, Snob Nails is my business Instagram and you can always email snobishnailscom for more information about the school.
Speaker 3:You can follow me on IG Naomi underscore JR. That's how you can reach me. Can I say my other socials?
Speaker 4:If you want to follow me or find me, just Google hashtag Mr Got that Glow. Just Google it. I promise you you can go and Google right now and the Baltimore Sun gonna be talking about being one of the top three radio hosts in Baltimore City. Just Google it. Google hashtag, Mr Got that Glow. That's M-R-G-O-T-D-D-A-T-G-L-O-W.
Speaker 2:Now, if you lying to me, if you lying to me.
Speaker 4:Google hashtag Mr Got that Glow.
Speaker 2:Where's my lecture? It says no Results Found.
Speaker 4:G oh you ain't got no service that says no Results Found.
Speaker 2:I know he found a cat Cat.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Cat, you see the Baltimore Sun right there. Cat, cat, cat. You know you talking to him. You know I see what I look like when we talking.
Speaker 2:Listen, this has been another lovely episode.
Speaker 4:Hashtag the Baltimore Sun Please. Hashtag the Milwaukee Sun.
Speaker 2:That's why he ain't got no kids. So shout out to the Vibes Podcast man. Shout out to the guy behind the scenes that makes everything possible, chaz Moody Media man. We have been working together for about six months, chaz, and he been doing this motherfucking thing. Chaz, you done work with who. You done work with Bubbles. You didn't work on certain podcasts, you did the air frail. I ain't gonna say nothing. I ain't gonna say nothing, but shout out to my guy, man. This has been another lovely episode of the Vibes Podcast and we're gonna catch you on the next one, when the vibes chilling with the vibes with the vibes yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:Out of here. Thanks for watching.