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Networking Out Loud with Shante Mundy & Morgan Wright

April 01, 2024 Shante Mundy & Morgan Wright
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Networking Out Loud with Shante Mundy & Morgan Wright
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Unlock the secrets of personal and professional triumph with Morgan Wright and Shante Mundy, trailblazers in women's empowerment and entrepreneurial resilience. Join us as Morgan, the Wright Therapist, unveils the synergy between expressive art therapy and charity at her Barbie and Brushes event, and Shante Mundy, CEO of Mindful Additions, unravels the complexities of goal development to bulldoze self-doubt. Their riveting dialogue promises a toolkit for growth, tailored for anyone eager to elevate their life's blueprint.

Transitioning from law enforcement to entrepreneurship is no walk in the park, but this episode showcases the grit and adaptability required to flourish against the odds. Hear the journeys from the confines of a correctional facility to the open seas of business ownership, and the wisdom gleaned from embracing different versions of oneself without losing authenticity. If you've ever struggled with balancing the dynamic demands of life and work, you'll find company—and solutions—here.

Wrap up your listening experience with stories that stir the soul and strategies that redefine business acumen. From setting non-negotiable boundaries with clients to nurturing the unique value your enterprise brings, we dissect lessons learned from the trenches of entrepreneurship. Plus, get a behind-the-scenes glimpse into the personal journeys of self-improvement that remind us all: the power to shape our future lies within the mindset we cultivate today.

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Speaker 1:

Hi guys, my name is Morgan Wright, also known as the Wright Therapist, and I want to invite you to Be a Barbie. Bring a Barbie, Barbie and Brushes. It'll be on April 27th. It's where women come out dressed as their favorite Barbies, in addition to bringing a Barbie doll to donate to charity, and this year's theme is Expressive Art Therapy. Can't wait to see you there.

Speaker 2:

Barbie and Brushes. Hello everybody, this is Shante, CEO and founder of Mindful Additions.

Speaker 1:

Create the lifestyle that we imagine.

Speaker 4:

Welcome back to another episode of the Vibes Podcast. Man, it's your boy 2DimpleKing, your favorite, leo, I got the women's power hour today. I'm not even supposed to be here. I got my girl, my favorite host, gonna, do the show today. But before we get started in all of that, I'm gonna go and let the guests introduce themselves, ms Nervous.

Speaker 2:

So my name is Shante and I am the CEO and founder of Mindful Editions and I teach wounded individuals suffering from self-doubt just to create a bulletproof success plan through productivity tips and habit change. Okay.

Speaker 3:

Goddamn.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay y'all.

Speaker 3:

Yes, stop Made that out, simone I thought you said the guest was going first. This your show. Okay, you want me to go? Yeah, you can go.

Speaker 1:

Hey, my name is Morgan Wright, also known as the Wright Therapist. I'm a licensed mental health therapist. Yeah, really need that. Yes, we do, and who are you and?

Speaker 3:

I am the co-host, simone Lene, and you can follow me at SimoneLene.

Speaker 4:

Did you wink at the camera?

Speaker 1:

And I did All right, and I did.

Speaker 4:

All right, well, before we even get into these amazing ladies, we gonna start off with the sponsors. Shout out to the girl Bubbles Galore Me At Arundel Mills Mall. Man, get your skin right, get your body right. Bubbles Galore Me will have you looking amazing, feeling amazing at Arundel Mills Mall. And we got something special. She got on my ass last time. So April 27th we have the amazing event Barbie and Brushes. But don't worry about me, I ain't got to say too much, I'm going to swing it on to her. Go ahead, miss Wright.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely so. I will be hosting my second Women's Empowerment event. This is Be a Barbie, bring a Barbie, barbie and Brushes, and this year we'll be focused on expressive art therapy.

Speaker 4:

Big money. Yeah, I'm trying, that's what we're trying. All right, what you got for them? Smile.

Speaker 3:

All right.

Speaker 4:

This is my second show, oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

I'm getting it together. I'm getting it together, got it Okay? So today is I guess this show is based off of, you know, women's empowerment. And well, we did have three beautiful ladies. Hey, hey, girl, two beautiful ladies are sitting next to me. They're entrepreneurs that offer you know, different products and services to uplift, guide, support and make others feel good about themselves. So can you please just like give more details and get more in-depth with what you offer to you know?

Speaker 1:

Okay, so I want y'all to look at me as a goal development strategist, because that's what I am, not a life coach, not a life coach Out of my ass, not a goal development strategist, because that's what I am Not a life coach, not a life coach Out of my ass, not a life coach. I thought that's what it was.

Speaker 4:

I have a master's degree in the field of social work, so I love studying and analyzing human behavior.

Speaker 2:

Okay, but in general people come to me when they have a goal.

Speaker 4:

A lot of people have goals, but we are stuck in the same place, because we just don't know how to get there right.

Speaker 2:

So your goal strategy is your gps. That's me right? I'm your gps. You don't want to keep taking the wrong routes, wrong right, wrong destinations, wasted time, wasted energy, wasted money. Right, you have to create a strategic gps to get to the right destination right, and I think people and it takes patience and I teach people how to do that productivity, productivity tips, habit change techniques, frameworks, empirical evidence, to be specific, yes, terminology, I don't know what you mean.

Speaker 1:

Empirical evidence yes, okay.

Speaker 2:

But I do, I offer digital products, I do one-on-one, I do workshops, I do webinars, I do group coaching. Okay, and currently I am in Metropolitan Atlanta and I do just different workshops, specifically nonprofits, just to help people just get to the next level elevate mindset change. So that's it All right, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So like with you know people who are, they know what they want to do, but they're not. They're like procrastinating on, like.

Speaker 2:

I was. I mean, it's all different routes right. Okay, I would like procrastinating on like I was. I mean, it's all different routes, right, I would say procrastination but also people are suffering from identity confusion.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, identity crisis. Yeah, social media has made it like very hard. They don't know who they are, they don't know what they want to be, they don't know their sense of purpose, which is okay, okay, right, but we have to identify.

Speaker 2:

I want y'all to know this. In order to accomplish any goal or find your purpose in life and just be driven, or anything like that, you have to identify who you are as a person. What are your likes, what are your dislikes? What would you do if you weren't getting paid for it? Every single day, you got to identify your passion, right. So if you don't know who you are or who the hell you want to be, you're going to waste a lot of time. So I think we're so busy in life that we never really sit down and listen to God.

Speaker 4:

We're so busy. We're so busy, right, we're so busy.

Speaker 2:

So it's like, until you really sit down, figure out what you want in life and who you are, you're going to be stuck in the same place for years, right? And people don't know how to take accountability either. Right, we're stuck in the same place because we keep doing the same shit over and over again.

Speaker 3:

No, for real, we're failing.

Speaker 2:

You want to know why we're failing, why we're being stuck in the same place. It's because we're doing the same thing. We keep running into the same wall, same wall.

Speaker 3:

Same wall.

Speaker 2:

How many times are you going to run into the same wall?

Speaker 4:

without making a change, but you're complaining. You get what I'm saying. Is it a? That's what's comfortable. So, even though you're going to keep making the same mistakes, you're comfortable in what you're doing? I think so.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, people are familiar with that. And they have control over that. They fear the unknown, so they have control over it, even though it's not working and shit about to fall to hell. They know that they could do that and be comfortable with that. But I'm being uncomfortable leads to grow, so you want to be uncomfortable to get to the next step, right you learn as you go.

Speaker 2:

You learn as you go. I started my business in 2019. I didn't know what my target population was.

Speaker 1:

I was just winging it, I didn't know who my target population was.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know who my why was I was. I didn't know what, but I was learning as I go. I just kept going and going and then that's when people started gravitating towards me, but not all types of people, it was a specific audience and I was like date my people use my people so so no, go ahead go ahead, no, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, no go ahead, that's

Speaker 1:

a shock.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead. I feel like I should be. That's a shock. That's a shock.

Speaker 3:

But no. So I wanted to ask a question, like in regards to myself and this is for both of you I'm the type of person that I know what I want to do, but I'm always finding new ways to like incorporate different things to what I want to do, if that makes sense. So, for instance, right now I'm in nursing school but I'm looking at, okay, well, maybe I can. While I'm in nursing school, I'm going to be a nurse. Of course that's the end goal. Then I can do, I could teach CPR and then I could probably have a school for, like, medical assisting and different types Like I'm trying to incorporate. It's it's a lot.

Speaker 2:

I feel like I do too much like I feel like I can't even really is a nurse and is the umbrella I mean it's the umbrella, but sometimes I do find myself branching off to like losing the direction that I'm you know I'm trying to to go on.

Speaker 3:

So what can you say or what advice could you give to a person that's? I guess their mind is just constantly on to different things, like they know what they want to do initially like for me, is helping people, right, but it's just different things that I'm just putting my hands into.

Speaker 1:

It's just I can't really like. Why do you think that's a bad thing? Because I don't necessarily. I mean it's not a bad thing, but I can't really like.

Speaker 3:

Why do you think that's a bad thing? Cause I don't necessarily. I mean it's not a bad thing, but I can say my mother told me like Girl, if you don't pick, if you don't figure out what it is, you really want to Like, really want to do, cause I was in law enforcement Prior to me.

Speaker 4:

You was in what yeah?

Speaker 3:

I was in law, I was in law enforcement, not white heels.

Speaker 4:

White dress yes, white dress, yes, I was in law enforcement prior to prior to all of this what was you doing in law enforcement so?

Speaker 3:

I was so I was a correctional officer for almost seven years oh, that's what's up. And then I applied for the police department around 2020 and I got hired oh good. But I didn't do it because I was like hell, no, it's COVID, I'm going to die COVID Like fuck. No, I'm not doing that. Like fuck All this shit going on riots and shit. No, I'm not doing that, Coughing on me and shit.

Speaker 3:

So I'm like I was just like you know what. I saw how the jail was. It was terrible. The nurses there were awful. You got people dying on the floor. You put the AED on wrong the man did. It was just. It was just too much for me. And then the attitudes and spirits inside of the prison it was just I had to go. So because I saw the neglect with the medical aspect, I was just like I need to help these people, like I need to be a nurse, like I need this is what I need to do.

Speaker 2:

But I don't think, just to answer your question. I don't think it's nothing wrong with, like I said, we have goals, right? We just got to create a specific goal strategy. But I would suggest because, like even with me and my brand, I'm like I want to do this. I want to open a storefront.

Speaker 2:

It's just so much I want to do but I will say we have to focus on one goal at a time, right, focus on one goal at a time. And we really can't have our hands dipped in a lot of things because we're neglecting each sector. Right. So I would say do the nursing first. Okay, once you accomplish that, move on to the next goal. Right, it's like people were trying to do multiple businesses at one time.

Speaker 4:

Right, you get what.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying this one hasn't even prospered yet.

Speaker 4:

Wait till this one starts booming, exactly, and then we're going to move on.

Speaker 2:

That's how millionaires think. That's how they act yeah.

Speaker 4:

So with both of y'all having businesses and you said, like 2020. 2020. What was the hurdles that y'all discovered, jumping into a world that y'all had no idea? You didn't have a target audience.

Speaker 1:

You did something off the love you see me doing my shit off the back of my truck okay.

Speaker 2:

So I was yeah, girl, that's a hustle, though I was selling them jars.

Speaker 1:

I was making them jars at his house late night Late night she gave me a random idea.

Speaker 4:

She was like Marcus. I was like what? She was like I'm going to start this business. I said girls, don't fucking play with me. She was like I got jars, I'm going to tell her to call boxes. I'm like I don't know. I don't think she's going to be consistent. And now you got a little bit of shit.

Speaker 4:

So for women out there, and just entrepreneurs in general, what do y'all recommend when you're first starting out, like, what are the normal hurdles that you guys, especially as women, black women, what are the normal hurdles you guys are going to face Ultimately?

Speaker 3:

Patience you gotta be patient. You have to give yourself grace yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Give yourself grace, be patient, because I know in 2019, 2020, 2021, I was like and you was doing it cold. I don't have no, everybody was online.

Speaker 1:

Yeah that's correct. Yeah, that's correct, but.

Speaker 2:

I was like I feel like you have to be patient. It was a lot of times I was like dang, I'm not getting no followers, Nobody is following me, Nobody is trusting me. I was trying to. I was getting mad about the work I wasn't putting in.

Speaker 3:

I was getting mad about the work I wasn't putting in.

Speaker 2:

I was getting mad about the work I was not putting in. I was like, why is my life not changing overnight and it's still not where it wants to be? You get what? I'm saying but, I've learned patience, so I would just say be patient. Entrepreneurship takes years. Some people be doing shit for a while 50 years but when you hit that 51st year, I'm saying it.

Speaker 3:

Not the 51st year I'm saying, I'm praying, not the 51st.

Speaker 1:

The 51st, she said you got that 51st year.

Speaker 3:

51 years is a long time Right.

Speaker 2:

But nah, just be patient, you never know what God got in store for you. And it's like just keep going. It's like a rapper getting hit after hit after hit For real, when that one hit. For real. You got to keep going until something hits.

Speaker 4:

And what about you? What would you give?

Speaker 1:

to them. Don't compare. Comparison is the thief of joy. So, yes, I was on Instagram. Like everybody else's, business is thriving. They're getting reposts, shares, comments, likes. I got about three likes on my posts, but you just got to remember your passion. Like, I did not think I was going to be putting on a second event at all.

Speaker 4:

I mean, you sold out last year, did you not?

Speaker 1:

I did sell out. Did you sell out? Last year, I did sell out and we're going to sell out this year Absolutely, absolutely. Go ahead.

Speaker 3:

So what motivates you guys to keep going? Like what is that thing that's? Like? You know what? I cannot give up. I have to keep going and keep striving and keep you know my clients.

Speaker 1:

There are times where I don't want to leave the bed. Or one time I tried to cancel on a client. I was like I can't do it today and they was like, but I need you.

Speaker 4:

So I got up that shit just broke my heart.

Speaker 1:

No, they keep me going, like they have a light to see at the end of the tunnel. Tunnel, and I'm trying to be that light. So if I can do, if me getting up out of my bed is about to make someone else's day better, then that's what I'm going to do it takes nothing to be kind or offer somebody a listening ear on my time. So that's it, my clients okay, how about you?

Speaker 4:

mine is definitely my son oh mommy, oh, that was the answer, oh like mine is my oh about to tear up.

Speaker 2:

Mine is my son. Like cause I like I gotta break generational curses right so I'm just like look at me tearing up over here but no seriously like it's like building a lifestyle for him and all the times, even me like when it comes to my nine to fives I be like I can't keep.

Speaker 2:

why am I requesting to take off to go on vacation? Why am I asking Can I go? You get what I'm saying, so that's what keeps me going. It's like that's not settling for your lifestyle. Right? I just got so much more. I'm too creative. Too creative and innovative, just to you know.

Speaker 4:

So your son is what pushes you.

Speaker 2:

My son pushes me.

Speaker 4:

How is your son?

Speaker 2:

He's one. I'm a new mom. It's a whole nother lifestyle and spiritual awakening.

Speaker 3:

That's probably what it is, yeah, okay.

Speaker 4:

So, with y'all saying that yours is your son, yours is your clients, what do y'all do when y'all and everybody gets here, when y'all get burnt out, especially having to do the social?

Speaker 3:

media thing which is exhausting.

Speaker 4:

What do you do when you get burnt out?

Speaker 2:

I feel like I'm paying for that right now. I didn't post for six months.

Speaker 4:

Wait a minute.

Speaker 2:

Really, I didn't post for six months. No, before y'all. I'm consistent now, but I just took a break. I didn't post for six months. That's why. Instagram is penalizing me right now you know the algorithm where you don't post. Now they don't really share you.

Speaker 4:

I'm going through all that right now.

Speaker 3:

I used to get so many, so much engagement Because I remember I asked you one time about how social media grows so fast. It was like within a blank of an eye.

Speaker 2:

My social media. I used to have like 2,000 followers Then. I hit 5,000. But then I started creating three reels a day. Oh, okay, so that's the reels, got the reels, so it's the consistency.

Speaker 4:

Please give people. The social media game, yeah, the reels.

Speaker 2:

No, the reels are what really got me out there. I went from. One reel popped off and I can show y'all which one. I got 41,000 likes on that reel.

Speaker 4:

That should make you feel good, don't it? It did. I said ooh Celebrity. Give me that blue check, that's celebrity.

Speaker 2:

And then, once that one popped off, three more reels popped off. So like all my reels was going viral at one time. That's what got me to. I don't know how much I had, but that's what got me up there and it was growing. That's when people started to come or whatever, but mine was. I had 9 to 5s. Sometimes you don't have a balance, right, I'm sorry. Thank you, look at me.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes you just get burnt out. You don't have a balance. You see me, I go. I be honest, this is the honest truth. I get inconsistent Sometimes I don't want to post, sometimes I don't feel like doing shit, and what do I do? I don't do it, but you see, you gotta be consistent, but sometimes you don't have balance and it's okay, give yourself grace.

Speaker 4:

You have something that most people don't. This is just for everybody listening. I've tried to hire this woman. She will not give your secret sauce up. You hire and have someone who does your social media for you.

Speaker 1:

Really, because social media is a job.

Speaker 4:

It is a job.

Speaker 1:

It's a job Gathering content to posting, to know when to post, to know what sounds are trending. It's a job that I don't have time for.

Speaker 3:

It's a job yeah.

Speaker 1:

I have tunnel vision and I need to focus on one thing at a time If I give my time to every different avenue. Someone's going to fall short, or one business is going to fall short.

Speaker 4:

We were just talking about that Recruit the help. So outsourcing, if you can outsource, outsource, hell yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. If you have the means to and I've had the time to do that then great, but I don't. So here we are.

Speaker 4:

Do you feel like with?

Speaker 1:

everything you got going on you being a doctor, you doing these events. If I had to ask you what area in your business that you're lacking in, what would that be? Consistency, Discipline and, like she said, balance.

Speaker 4:

But I've gotten to a point right now where.

Speaker 1:

I don't feel bad for days where I can't show up. I used to feel bad because if I can't do it, I cannot do it If I do not have the capacity. If I do not have the capacity to do it, then that's just it.

Speaker 2:

And I'm learning how to say no, yeah Right. Yes.

Speaker 1:

Self-care is saying no and not feeling bad about it and not providing with an explanation of why I said no, it's just no.

Speaker 2:

I think a lot of people feel like if you say no, especially if it's somebody that you know, a friend, family, you want to give that explanation and you want to show up for them.

Speaker 3:

But you don't have to, you don't have to. Right, right, okay.

Speaker 2:

What the question? We just asked you, talking about the balance.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, no, what I answered my first.

Speaker 2:

No, it's okay, you said the inconsistency and the balance, right.

Speaker 3:

No, he said something about the lack, and that's the only thing.

Speaker 2:

Is that the only thing I'm focused on? The oh, everything, I just said I'm sorry, you know y'all we going on and it's different questions, but no, it's okay, it's okay. So let me just get this straight. You talking about the inconsistency Like wait, what was it the last?

Speaker 4:

question I was on. I got it. The question was 20?

Speaker 2:

Oh, yes, but I'm telling y'all for a long time, please, y'all, please. I've had my business since 2019. I didn't start getting people really following me prior to like two years ago. Well, I got a question for you Two years ago.

Speaker 4:

Someone sent me a DM about you.

Speaker 1:

Who.

Speaker 4:

I can't just rob all that. His name is Debo, so messy Debo. He said he wanted to know. He said do you think your business and your following goes up based off you being a, an attractive woman?

Speaker 2:

um, possibly, but then that's just. That's not my target audience right you can have a lot of um followers because you're attractive, because you did that, you get them saying I'm saying, but I provide knowledge and I know whether people are following me, whether two out of that 22,000 is following me, as long as I put some knowledge in their mind.

Speaker 4:

That's all I care about, Most of all your posts, when I went down here. Two questions Do you have a second social, second Instagram?

Speaker 2:

I have my personal Instagram, okay.

Speaker 4:

Because when I was going through your page every single one of them and I've seen your creative strategy, how you did this. You would post a photo of you, right?

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

But when you click that video, your photo's not there. It is strictly.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's a cover. It's called cover. Oh, I've seen it. Yeah, because on my page I want a specific theme right, and I want it to have some order, some organization, and I used to do cover photos a lot but I stopped. But thank you for reminding me because I need to go back to it. I forgot all about that.

Speaker 4:

I got surprised when I was going through your page. I was like, oh, this is a photo. But when you click on it, it would immediately go back to the motivation and I can see how, as a man, I can see how the attention is there. Like, oh, you thought you was going to see a photo. No, here's something for your mind, here's something for your mental, and you started this in 2019. So when you started this in 2019, was it more of like a passion project for you and you was like, let me see how it goes. And then you kept going with it, or how did this whole thing?

Speaker 2:

It's a passion. I'm a social worker.

Speaker 1:

You're a social worker.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you do a lot. Okay, so basically my five to ten in the morning job I am a suicide crisis counselor, I work with suicide. And then my other nine to five I'm a behavioral coach. But if you look at my followers just to answer Demo's questions, they're mostly women, so I don't think it's attraction. If you look at my followers, if you go down, I do have some men that follow me, but majority of my audience are women. The comments, my DMs. Of course you do have some weirdos, but they get annoyed, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4:

I said annoyed.

Speaker 2:

They get ignored. You get what I'm saying, but most of my followers are women, and specifically between the ages of 25 to 30, because that is my target population. Now, whoever else gravitates towards me, bring it on, come on. But, majority of mine are women, so Demo.

Speaker 4:

All right Demo.

Speaker 2:

Don't be cute. All right Demo, and it wasn't over.

Speaker 4:

I got one for you too. I told you I was doing my due diligence.

Speaker 1:

Erica.

Speaker 4:

Erica is her name. She said hey, I attended last year's Barbie and Brushes. Right, I'm planning on attending this year's, but but she wants to know she said I'm a mother of two. I have a son and a daughter and I really want to bring him to the Barbies and Brushes brunch. Do you think in the future you will ever have a situation or a show to where you will be able to invite males?

Speaker 1:

Yes, which we've discussed before. You always ask me that and people want to know. Ask me that.

Speaker 1:

And people want to know. So I didn't necessarily know that women was going to be like my target population, it just felt right. So I got this idea from my best friend. She sent me this TikTok and it was of these girls dressed as Barbies and she was like picture this. You do this as a women's empowerment event. I'm like bet Made it happen. You do this as a women's empowerment event. I'm like bet Made it happen. I didn't necessarily not include the males, but as I started doing more events for young girls and women, I found that I was more passionate about it and I can relate. So yes, I will be doing something for the males. I want to either do like a little couples thing, make it Barbie and Ken.

Speaker 3:

I love couples thing that's real cute.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I'm thinking about doing a barbershop talk. I don't feel like there are a lot of Okay, lebron Period yes yes, I don't feel like there are a lot of safe places for men, black men outside of a barbershop. So if I can facilitate some communication around mental health there, I absolutely will, and I mommy and me thing for the moms to bring there.

Speaker 4:

That is so cute, she doing full events a year.

Speaker 2:

I'm trying, I'm trying. If I can, I absolutely will. That's networking, that's marketing. I love that.

Speaker 3:

Keep going, thank you she got a full coach, not coach. She got a full coach. So what advice would you give to someone just starting a business.

Speaker 1:

I don't even know. I don't even know, I'm still trying. I'm still trying to get my own advice. I guess I'll answer first. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Just starting out, depending on what you want to do, I would say 100%, you got to do social media. I don't care what age you are. You're going to have to do social media, whether it be TikTok, instagram. You're going to have to do both, but you're going to have to Get good at one of them. So just start now understand, like y'all said, oh, it's going to be patience, because you might not blow for the first year, two years.

Speaker 3:

That's how I've been with hell 50 years, 51 years I do have 51.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're going to spend a lot of money.

Speaker 4:

You're going to spend a lot of money starting this out and understand that once you get that traction, you get that following and curate your audience. If you know and you want to look at your analytics, your analytics are women. Don't try to deviate and try to go to men. You now know what your audience is, so talk to women. You are now a woman's man. Now you target women and women will target other women and that will grow back to you. So, most importantly, patience. It's going to suck. I'm going to let you know that right now it's going to suck. It's going to be some lonely nights, but if you start in the business, that's all that comes with it.

Speaker 1:

So I so I do appreciate your advice, because I know you've been telling me I need to be on camera more and show more of my face and that is my issue. I do not like talking you are a whole therapist. I know.

Speaker 4:

I'm being honest.

Speaker 1:

I don't like talking, and then I think you said to me not too long ago that my page right now just has like posts of like motivational quotes, and it's none of me so that's what I need to definitely start doing and take your advice on.

Speaker 2:

I can see you doing real, like you like making the product. How do you even get the content?

Speaker 1:

together. I don't even be thinking about that.

Speaker 2:

People love behind the scenes, don't they? That's what I need to do.

Speaker 1:

They nosy people love well, I guess a piece of advice I would offer is don't be scared to talk your shit. I feel like I walk into rooms, real quiet and not being like, hey, I'm a therapist, I be putting on workshops, I be real Pop it. Right, I don't pop my shit enough, and how are people supposed to know who I am or who I'm in the room with if I don't say nothing? So I think that'd be. My advice is to talk about your business network out loud.

Speaker 4:

Network out loud. That's the name of the goddamn show. Yeah, do we pop your shit. First of all, you say you do a suicide line from five to whatever. That's already a lot.

Speaker 2:

That's a lot. Mentally it is. I pop my shit, but I'm humble Okay.

Speaker 3:

I pop my shit.

Speaker 2:

I'm humble Because you know you see how some people or some I've watched different podcasts, different videos of people being arrogant and stuff like that I feel like you got to have humbleness, because God will flip your life upside down real quick real quick, so it's like I'm happy to be here, but thank you, yeah, thank you, yeah, yeah but my advice would be to get a mentor.

Speaker 2:

Like don't be afraid to invest in yourself, right? Like even when I started the social media thing, I told y'all I was so confused I was just posting things, but then I invested to a business coach. Shout out to Leah, she's my coach still to this day so she teaches me what I need to work on. She teaches me my insights. She actually is conducting my photo shoot coming up in April, so she's my whole shout out to you, leah but don't, and always be a student.

Speaker 2:

A lot of people don't like to be told what to do. Always be a student. You're not going to learn shit if you don't learn these critical skills. You get what I'm saying that you want to, whatever market you want to go in, learn to be a student. Always learn as you go. Well, how about?

Speaker 3:

So I have a question for you, okay, what does a typical day look like for you, like in your world.

Speaker 1:

So I do see a lot of clients. I probably have like 60 clients on a good day.

Speaker 4:

God damn.

Speaker 1:

But they all get 100% of me, I'm making sure Shit.

Speaker 1:

I see adults, children, I run groups, so I see about seven to eight on a good day. People cancel, schedules conflict. If I don't see all eight, that's fine. So in a session it'll be virtual or in person. Telehealth ended up being like a COVID brought telehealth, which is actually a great thing. It provided more access to mental health, so I am grateful for that aspect. But they'll either sign on or they'll come in person and we'll just do a 45 to an hour long session. I don't like therapy to just be talking and I like to engage my clients with whatever they're interested in. If you're interested in drawing, we're about to draw our feelings today.

Speaker 1:

If you're interested in music. We're going to sing our feelings today. We're going to make a playlist, but whatever you engage with that will help you release your feelings and make an outlet is what I'm going to go with, which is why I started doing the workshops. I'm trying to change the narrative of therapy, basically saying that therapy does not have to look like talk therapy.

Speaker 3:

Okay, Okay, that's so cool. We already got the answer from you. Basically, I don't want to double back. No, you're good. I have a question. Can I ask a question?

Speaker 1:

so how do you deal with? Because you're on the crisis hotline, so how do you deal with that? Like that's the start of your morning?

Speaker 4:

like. What if?

Speaker 1:

someone gives you a case that's extremely draining. You still have to make it to your next line of five and be a mom. So how do you like get yourself back together to make it through your?

Speaker 2:

day. So, honestly, y'all, I'm going to be as real as possible, because people always think when they hear the word suicide they're like hella, people are calling in no, so you get people, but a lot of these people just want to vent.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely Right.

Speaker 4:

A lot of them are not suicidal.

Speaker 2:

A lot of them are not suicidal. A lot of them are just saying, hey, I'm depressed, just listen to me, just listen to me Just listen, don't talk, just listen. That's really what they be saying. And then we have other people with homicide. Now that's where it gets, oh my God yeah when they say I want to hurt others.

Speaker 1:

Right, but honestly, it's really not that Okay yeah.

Speaker 2:

That job is more. You just listening, you de-escalate the problems, you're being empathetic and stuff like that, and then they really be happy when they get off the phone they be like I'm not feeling sad, no more. I really needed to hear your advice. So the same way you're giving therapy to your clients you're just giving therapy a little bit over the phone, right? Yeah, I love that job.

Speaker 4:

Well, you know, here At the Vibes Podcast, we don't never Just let it go Without asking For me. I get to know All y'all deeply.

Speaker 1:

Personally. Oh my god.

Speaker 4:

So I'm gonna put it out here what's an apology that you never got to give.

Speaker 1:

To someone else.

Speaker 4:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

Can you come back to me. I gotta think about that. That's a good one, it's a really good one, but I'm like An apology I never got to give to someone else.

Speaker 1:

I have one.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, can we make that like the?

Speaker 3:

last question, because we're always looking at other people as being a problem sometimes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we doing like family based or like relationship based.

Speaker 1:

Whatever?

Speaker 2:

I'm going to give an apology for my grandmother, who just passed away last year, and I'm going to say I hate getting emotional. I'm going to say sorry for not spending as much time with you, being so busy with life. You get what I'm saying Sorry for not spending as much time with you I should have. So, yeah, oh, I cry all the time. This is me.

Speaker 3:

That's my friend.

Speaker 2:

This is me. I'm emotional.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if I would have an apology to a specific person, but I think I can apologize to anyone who's encountered me or who has been in my life, and I was not showing up as the best version of me, whether I wasn't able to communicate something, whether I was ghosting you or isolating.

Speaker 1:

I would like to apologize for that. I didn't even know what I had going on, so I couldn't show up for you in the best way possible and I wasn't showing up as the best Morgan, the best version of Morgan. Do you feel like you're working on that now? Yes, yes, yes, I am. I'm trying to be the best, the best version of me in in all areas, and I'm finding out that that looks different. So people are receiving various parts of me, and that's okay. First, work, clients, personal relationship, romantic. It's gonna be a lot of different versions of myself, but it's it's the highest version of me, one that I'm not even sure I recognize yet is that okay, though?

Speaker 4:

because you in this society, everybody says, oh, I'm me, I'm real, I'm me all the time. Is it okay to have different versions of you for different situations?

Speaker 1:

Absolutely how I show up. Going out on a Saturday night is not how I'm about to show up to go to church. And that's okay, that is perfectly fine, or how I show up to my clients is not how I'm about to show up to my friends. So yes there can be different versions of me, and I'm okay with that. If and I'm okay with that, if you're not that's a hard deal. I didn't mean to make you cry, yeah.

Speaker 3:

I really yeah, I know you got me all. You got me thinking about my grandmother.

Speaker 2:

I know, I remember your grandmother.

Speaker 3:

I remember your grandmother, yeah she got me over here thinking about my grandmother. She passed away in 2020 RIP. Grandma, I love you.

Speaker 2:

I remember your grandmother, dang dang yeah, I remember your grandma Dang Dang. Yeah, no, it's okay.

Speaker 1:

This was a powerful conversation. Yes, I love it.

Speaker 2:

Y'all, I'm telling y'all I'm sensitive, like if y'all don't know People like behind, people who know me Right, I'm sensitive.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I'm sensitive too, y'all.

Speaker 2:

But it be, I'm telling y'all I'm good, that's just me Crazy a little bit.

Speaker 4:

How do y'all ever get in a position to where you're gonna put your business or whatever on the back burner for, say, a relationship, a friend? Does it get to that point, or is it always business first?

Speaker 2:

um, that's a very great question. I think every situation is situational. Um, friends and my son, yes, but I feel like friends and relationships. They should be able to respect that right, but sometimes you do have to. Um, I don't know how to answer that question because it's just different routes to it. Sometimes you do you got to put your business behind for a loved one and stuff like that but people, relationship-wise, I feel like a significant other. You do have to make time for them, of course, but I feel like it gets toxic when they're forcing you to choose their business over you.

Speaker 2:

You got to be able to respect what I'm doing and I'm damn sure going to respect what you're doing. You get what I'm saying. So I respect the hustle, I respect all that, but I just feel like it just gets toxic when a person is saying me, me, me, me, me, when you're not making my goals a priority the way I'm making yours a priority.

Speaker 4:

Does that make?

Speaker 2:

sense, I don't know.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it makes sense. How about you?

Speaker 1:

No same thing. She said no-transcript, absolutely. If not, please be understanding of what I have going on.

Speaker 3:

Was there ever a time you guys had to do that? Or ever put in that position because of a relationship I feel like yes, I won't say no names, but mine wasn't my business now.

Speaker 2:

now I was younger, this is when I was model and heavy and I did have a partner who just had to comment on everything and it made it so awkward, like at photo shoots and stuff like that, even with, like, the cause. I had great connections with the makeup artist and the guy I was with. I feel like he was very possessive, so they like dang what's wrong, like it was, just it was, yeah, it was just too much it was he had to go.

Speaker 3:

That's it yeah.

Speaker 1:

Period he had to go. I don't feel like I've experienced that. I think everybody in my circle knows what I have going on as I'm trying to run a business, so it's never been an issue thus far. Good, good.

Speaker 4:

Y'all talked about competition, Now y'all talk about popping, y'all shit. So now I'm here to make sure this happens. So, right, of course you said don't compare, right, you shouldn't, but we know that's going to happen, right? Especially if you're getting to feel like yours and I say it's only three people that do what you do in the city. That's four people total. Okay, If you got an eye, you see what they're doing and things like that. You might see their strategy Like oh, I can implement this, this, that and the third Are you looking to become the best at what you do or just become good at what you do?

Speaker 1:

I'm just looking to make an impact. I don't care about being the best and there's someone for everyone. I don't feel, as a therapist, that I'm going to be right for everybody and not every client is going to be right for me so that's cool and I love to network and I can outsource. If we're not working together, go to the other therapists and no shade.

Speaker 1:

They're probably just as good as me. I mean, I'm better, but you know no shade. But I think that comes with just knowing who your audience is, what you can offer them, and if it doesn't fit, then it just doesn't fit.

Speaker 3:

Or what makes your business stand out, like I'm not going to say stand out, but what makes your business like to others to be. Like you know what this is. I think this is who I'm going to go with, like this is what I'm going to do. I think this is who I'm going to go with Like this is what I'm going to do Pop your shit down, yeah, pop your shit down. Yeah, pop your shit down. What makes you a business? You know?

Speaker 1:

I'm trying to think of what my clients would say In my sessions. I don't like to have a power struggle. I am there to I'm not there like I know everything, because I don't. I let it be known that I'm 28. There are things that I may or may not have gone through, but I'm here to just provide you with tools In addition to that I like to be relatable. I want to make sure that I am practicing what I preach. So the other day I had a client, a minor, who's just starting on medication.

Speaker 4:

So I was like I take medication too.

Speaker 1:

And he was like well, thank you for telling me yes, cause I don't want to be putting out there to do A, b and C and I've never. I've never done it before. So I tried to be a therapist who practices what they preach, and I'm a therapist with a therapist. So I think me taking time for myself and having a balance just makes everything easier for my clients.

Speaker 3:

Okay, how about you?

Speaker 2:

Shosei which question?

Speaker 3:

I'm sorry y'all both asked me questions at the same time, Remember he?

Speaker 2:

asked about the conversation and you was like then you asked about what makes you different.

Speaker 4:

Do you want to be the best at what you do or do you want to be good at what you do?

Speaker 2:

As she stated before, I feel like everybody's in their own lane. It could be five people right next to me, it could be y'all. All could be having the same business that I can. I can only provide with me and God's vision.

Speaker 4:

Not y'all vision.

Speaker 2:

You get what I'm saying and if anything, if I see somebody else doing the same thing as me, it's not competition, it's motivation, it's like dang girl, I love that Right right, absolutely Like even, or a guy you get what I'm saying. I always praise. I'm not the type of female. I'm not fake bougie, I'm not fake mean. I am such I'm really empowerment Like. If I see somebody on the street and they look really pretty, I'm like girl, you are so pretty.

Speaker 4:

You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Like. I have a beautiful personality. Right, I'm in my own lane and only me and God. We got that vision Absolutely.

Speaker 4:

What's your biggest reality check you had to face at this moment?

Speaker 2:

Reality check? I don't know. Reality check as in what Be more specific?

Speaker 4:

Reality check, as in you, or somebody that you know came to you and said, hey, you're fucking up, hey you could be doing this better see people in my circle.

Speaker 2:

They praise me my friends I swear to god my friends, my family, everybody around me they're. They know what I got going on. They I'm a full-time mom. I'm a full-time, nine to five. But I feel like the most hurtful thing you can say is I'm fucking up. Because that's going to get you cut off, knowing these sleepless nights, all this. I got going on. So if you're going to come to me and not praise me for all the hard work I'm putting in these sleepless nights, these random tears, you getting what?

Speaker 4:

I'm saying Then I don't want you to fuck around me because I will wild out for real.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, you know when you got so much going on. You're a mom, you're a mom, are you a mom?

Speaker 4:

I am not, okay, I'm a dad, you get what I'm saying. You know, when you're going so hard, the least thing I can do is the hurtful thing.

Speaker 2:

I can come to you and say, kamar, you're not doing enough.

Speaker 4:

You want to go off? Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I don't really keep the people around me, I know, oh shit.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I did.

Speaker 3:

Okay, cut off game is crazy, I don't even respond the way I used to respond For real you showing me that?

Speaker 2:

Okay, I might give you a few more chances. But just know, my exit plan has already been created in my head, where are you? From. I'm from Baltimore.

Speaker 4:

Hey dummy.

Speaker 2:

Damn Dummy. I'm from East.

Speaker 4:

Baltimore. Yeah, where made he's going to work? Yeah, what made you move to?

Speaker 2:

Atlanta. So at this time, me and my ex-boyfriend, we just visited Atlanta one time we was like we want to just go, and then I just went to a master's program down there. That was it.

Speaker 4:

Atlanta ain't never hit that. You went one time it was like yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like that was your first time going. That was my first time going Really, yeah, and I love different stuff, different environments. So I was like I'm with it, and, on top of that, the guy that I was with we was like this. So we was like let's go ahead and create a foundation for ourselves. At the time, Whoa shit.

Speaker 4:

Do you feel as though, because you're here in the city once again, do you feel as though you have to grow by getting out of Baltimore?

Speaker 3:

Yes, I'm sorry, damn Tamar. Yes and no. Yes and no Because I feel like it's all about a mindset, because I know people who still live in Baltimore from Baltimore.

Speaker 2:

They thriving. I feel like forget environments. I feel like a lot of people put Baltimore on a pedestal where it's like, okay, the city is bad.

Speaker 4:

When you hit.

Speaker 2:

Baltimore. You hit like all these different negative factors, but let's talk about individual people with individual personalities. You getting what I'm saying. Let's talk about mindset shifts. I feel like and I want all of us to look at it like that Even if I move back to Baltimore, I'm going to go get that shit Right. It's going to put more pressure on me. So I feel like it's all about mindset shift. I don't even want to put I know Baltimore do have a lot of so does Atlanta oh absolutely Absolutely.

Speaker 4:

GSP.

Speaker 2:

Every city. You get what I'm saying, but it's just all about individual mindsets.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you can make it anywhere.

Speaker 2:

Alright, that's how.

Speaker 4:

I feel you tough on that. My question is for you, right, because I've known you the longest out of everybody here and every time I see you I have made it a point. Even if we go out to get drinks, I have always made it a point to say, girl, I'm proud as fuck of you.

Speaker 3:

Thank, you, I am so Stop. Thank you, stop, mark, stop.

Speaker 2:

He's making people emotional Stop, thank you.

Speaker 4:

I am proud of you from when you were like 22, when you were trying to get through school Getting through school, becoming a doctor.

Speaker 1:

Doing your first event. We were on our way to being a doctor, go girl.

Speaker 4:

I am proud of you. You are not the same girl I met eight years ago. So I just want to say I'm proud of you and I do look up to you.

Speaker 3:

Because of some of your business models, I definitely stole Me, not you stole them, not you stole them, not you stole them.

Speaker 4:

I definitely stole them, would you? Before we get out of here? Your thing is called Mindful Additions, right?

Speaker 2:

Mindful Additions Mindful.

Speaker 4:

Additions One where did that name come from? And two, do you feel as though, like you were saying before, that's just your umbrella and then you want to build things underneath that?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. That is my umbrella. That is my umbrella. Honestly, I don't even remember where the word, the name, Mindful Additions came from. I don't even remember. I can't and I'm not about to sit here and create no lie, I don't know where it came from.

Speaker 4:

It popped in my head. You know I could be trying to act like it's, so spiritual it came from this.

Speaker 2:

I don't know where it came from. I don't know where it came from.

Speaker 1:

But that's my name.

Speaker 2:

I don't know where it came from the back and uh, cause at first it was called snazzy additions. That's when I wanted to do hair. I was going through the same thing. I'm like I wanna do this really it was called snazzy additions first okay, I was like snazzy additions, like hair and stuff. Then I was like I don't know shit about the beauty industry. Why am I? I hate it, I hate it. I was like I, that would save me a lot of money. Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 4:

What is something that you feel as though here on your first live podcast. Where's your camera Right there? Where do people need to know about you? This is all you now.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I am not the same as other coaches. Okay, I don't even put coach under my name on my page. I'm a goal development strategist, right. However, again, I'm going to keep saying I have a master's degree in social work.

Speaker 4:

You know there's so many different coaches online.

Speaker 2:

They be like buy my product, but you just went on Google.

Speaker 3:

Like, you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

And they're getting money off this. That's what makes me different. I went to school for years sleepless nights, studying my ass off Like if we're doing a session. I am just know. I'm using my tools, my knowledge, knowledge, my research. I'm not your average coach that's forcing you to buy shit from me. Don't buy nothing from me. Follow me, just give whatever I can give to you. You get what I'm saying, but I have credentials behind my name and I'm going to continue to step on that. Msw yes.

Speaker 1:

I am. I have credentials behind my name, okay for real.

Speaker 2:

I'm serious, y'all your shit, you simmered that shit down, though I did. I don't want to go out to home with y'all. Let me call it.

Speaker 4:

I got another question for you, but I'm going to ask you the same question.

Speaker 1:

My response is her response.

Speaker 4:

Did I go ahead then?

Speaker 1:

No, because I worked so hard to get these letters behind my name and I'm working three times, ten times as hard to get this doctorate.

Speaker 2:

And you licensed.

Speaker 1:

You licensed. Yeah, and I'm licensed Listen when I become Dr Right, people want to be sick of me. I have been humble for too long.

Speaker 4:

When I go to the doctors.

Speaker 1:

I want my doctor to be like Dr Right.

Speaker 4:

Yes, because I'll dress you as doctor.

Speaker 1:

You can do the same when I I'm going to sign Dr Right. I worked so hard to get these letters behind my name from these loans that are between the government and God.

Speaker 4:

You said government and God.

Speaker 1:

The government and God To me writing. I'm about to do my. I just got into the second well, the first half of my residency to choose my topic, which is on black women. Actually, I want to discuss how the strong black woman archetype and narrative actually hinders black women from being vulnerable.

Speaker 4:

So I'm doing all this research, taking all this time.

Speaker 1:

You're going to respect me as such.

Speaker 4:

Well, I hope that you can answer this question.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I hope so too, desi 165. Where are they coming from? I don't know.

Speaker 4:

This is for everybody and I need you to answer this too.

Speaker 1:

This is a deep one.

Speaker 4:

I've been saving it for this exact moment.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

It says hey, I've seen Shante's coming on your show and I have a question for her. But I'm going to ask it for everybody.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

It says hey, I'm a transsexual woman. I would like to know coming from biological women.

Speaker 2:

Do you feel as though in today's society that there are attacks on natural-born women. I feel like it's a tax on everyone.

Speaker 1:

It is.

Speaker 2:

I feel like it's a tax on everyone, and so I thank you for writing that, because it's crazy, because I used to work at a nonprofit in Atlanta. My first ever job and all I worked with was LGBTQ community. I was a program coordinator, so I love that she asked when the hell have you worked at? It's called Lost and Found Youth. Lost and Found Youth. I love that.

Speaker 2:

It's a homeless shelter for LGBTQ community between the ages of 18 to 24. Oh, wow, but I feel like just to answer your question, I feel like it's a tech on every population. People are mean, mean.

Speaker 1:

Very. In general and so if I can do a little bit just to offer some grace, some gentleness, some kindness, then that's what I'm going to do, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Y'all answered that the most professional, best way I've ever heard that question answered.

Speaker 2:

It was simple, it didn't take no thought. That's what I'm saying. I don't think we had to put like a real explanation in the text on everybody, natural born, everybody.

Speaker 3:

Alright, I have a question before we go. Oh shit, let's hear this Alright, do you girls wish like, if you could do anything else like anything differently, would you have done it differently, like? Or you just do anything else Like anything differently? Would you have done it differently, like? Or you just Nope, no.

Speaker 1:

I went to a career day earlier this week, and so one of the questions was like Was this what you always wanted to do? Did you know you? Were going to do it and absolutely I knew I was going to be a therapist Helping others at like eight.

Speaker 3:

So the journey from start to finish.

Speaker 1:

Everything I wanted to do, you wouldn't change anything about it?

Speaker 2:

nope, okay well, my major at first was mass communication, and then I got bored that's what a lot of people say about that.

Speaker 4:

It was so boring.

Speaker 2:

I said I gotta go, I gotta go. I don't know what I wanna be in life, but it ain't this so, but no, as you know, as no, as Morgan said, no, because you learn as you go All my failures, all that, everything it has created me to who I am today. Okay, right, living a perseverance lifestyle Okay.

Speaker 4:

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Speaker 3:

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Speaker 4:

But I don't cut her promo Because she make more money than me.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, go ahead. Yeah, so come on. Oh hold on, no, you're not.

Speaker 3:

No, you're not. Take that. I know, I had this card the whole time Looking at it. Right, let me get my. Yes, ladies, I'm going to discard the whole time.

Speaker 1:

Looking at it, right, let me get my filter. Yes, ladies, so please come out to Barbie and Brushes, because I love being a part of the Vibes podcast. If you go on Eventbrite and type in capital V-I-B, the number three and Z, you will receive a discount on the tickets. So purchase them quickly, because they're selling out Period.

Speaker 4:

How do you escape the chaos? Just go right back into it.

Speaker 1:

Of what?

Speaker 4:

You had a post not too long ago saying called escaping the chaos.

Speaker 2:

Escaping the chaos. That's funny. So, basically, I feel like environment plays a part, environment plays a part in your life, right? I feel like if you have a negative environment, you're not going to be able to thrive the way you want to because there's so much chaos around you. Not saying you can't, but I'm saying you're going to go through a lot of obstacles and hurdles, right? So that's why I feel like environment is very, very important.

Speaker 2:

And when you are revamping your life from scratch, creating your ideal life, I feel like the world is in your hands and I feel like you have to analyze what's making you go crazy, what's making you chaotic. Literally get like an expo board type in, I mean, write down everything that's great for you and everything that's negative for you and once you identify those negative factors, go ahead and create a specific GPS, a specific strategy to eliminate those. I don't even think people know how much power we got within ourselves. I say that shit every day, right? Everybody's story is much differently, like you might be going through something totally different than I am and everybody else on the stage. But I just feel like, use your story as your sword while you're on the battlefield. Use your story to keep going.

Speaker 2:

I really mean that. I really mean that, can I hit her?

Speaker 3:

real quick.

Speaker 4:

You can do whatever you want to do.

Speaker 3:

Let me hit you real quick. So what should we expect from Mindful Editions in the near future?

Speaker 2:

I don't have any specific events going up but going out, but y'all gonna see my face. I mean, y'all already seen my face three times on. Instagram, but I do want to go ahead and create an event in Baltimore. I feel like I'm such an Atlanta right now but I'm like I gotta get back to Baltimore, like I forgot about my PE.

Speaker 2:

I done, moved to another state like brand new. I'm like I got to come back up here and do something. But any nonprofits that need speakers, that need workshops, please let me know, because especially nonprofits. We already talked. I already want her a part of it. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4:

Y'all spoke before we get out of here. You know me, I always ask a deep question, right, and I asked you. But I got something specific for you and you, because you never answered it. If you had to go back and talk to your younger self, what would you say?

Speaker 2:

That's a good one. I would tell my younger self to not be so much of a people pleaser. Not be so much of a people pleaser If something doesn't make you comfortable. Learn to say no. Speak up more and not just accept stuff and that goes with relationships, family, workplace, anybody Because I'm a people pleaser.

Speaker 4:

You know this is a Vibes podcast and I'm not just going to let you off like that.

Speaker 2:

I thought that was the question.

Speaker 4:

She answered your question when you just said that, what's up? Give me one of those times. You didn't speak up and you were a people, pleaser relationships.

Speaker 2:

I feel like sometimes I give out and I'm single now, y'all. I don't want nobody to think I'm in a relationship. I'm in the journey of me. I'm in the y'all. I don't want nobody to think I'm in a relationship. I'm in the. I'm in the the journey of me.

Speaker 2:

I'm in the journey of me okay yes, right, but all my relationships, I feel like cause it's not one that's better than the other, all of them. I feel like I was a people pleaser, you know, um, sacrificing my own needs to make other people happy, and that's what I do, even in therapy, like you know. When you're just not feeling it, that's just me. I'm just a giver, right, but not everybody knows how to reciprocate, giving Some people just take, take, take right.

Speaker 2:

So just learn to say no and pour into yourself before you try to pour into others, because you can't with an empty cup.

Speaker 4:

Simone, people got to get to know about you, baby. The question is if you had to go back and talk to your younger self, whether it be a good conversation or a bad one what would you say?

Speaker 3:

I must say, be more confident, because I second-guess myself a lot, and that's with a lot of things like even now. It's crazy and people are like girl, you got this, you can do this, you can do anything that you put your mind to, but I'm just not even still. I'm still battling with that. I'm not as confident as I should be, you know, even though I know I have the power and I can do whatever I put my mind to. But I would tell my younger self girl, you got this, you can do it, leave on call for that you know, Just you know, whatever it is you want to do, just do it, go for it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because I done cried with you before.

Speaker 1:

Oh my goodness.

Speaker 4:

We always had therapy sessions.

Speaker 3:

Just put that out there, like that.

Speaker 1:

You all about to cry Like what's going on We'll say that out loud, because black men don't cry. Now I cry yes.

Speaker 4:

What internal battle that you have right now that you feel like you're losing.

Speaker 1:

An internal battle that. I have right now that I feel like I am losing, I'm picking back off of what I said earlier and me trying to be the highest version of myself. I don't feel like I have any current battles. I'm trying to work through my internal battles to not have them. So at this very moment, I do not. I am putting my best foot forward and becoming the best me. I don't feel like I'm battling with anything.

Speaker 4:

Talk heavy.

Speaker 2:

I love that I do not, I have a question for you that was really did it take you a long time to get there, like you're in this journey of yourself, or do you feel like you've always had like a smooth sailing? Absolutely not.

Speaker 1:

I'd be people pleasing 24-7 in everything With clients. I be people pleasing 24 7 and everything with clients, with family relationships, with friends. Um, and I just realized I was not happy. I do not want to be this version of myself and I I don't want to say used to be I have a habit of being so negative, like I'll get offered an opportunity, and the first thing I say is I can't do it. And I think naturally our brains are wired to think negatively before we like girl, you got this. I think I'll be like nope, I can't do it. And I think naturally our brains are wired to think negatively before we like girl, you got this.

Speaker 1:

I think I'll be like nope, I can't do it, don't want to do it, and I talk myself out of it before I even get started. So I think it just took me being so negative and realizing that I'm I'm basically my own enemies. I'm standing in the way of so many opportunities that God has given me, that my community has given me. All because? Because I'm scared and I'm still scared, but I'm just doing it scared.

Speaker 2:

I love it. You learn as you go. I'm doing it scared. I love that.

Speaker 4:

Alright well.

Speaker 3:

Before we get out of here.

Speaker 4:

Tell everybody where they can find you, ladies.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so on TikTok, instagram and Facebook is Mindful Edition. Facebook, are you okay? Shout out to the Okay so on TikTok. Instagram and Facebook. It's a mindful edition. Facebook, are you okay?

Speaker 1:

Shout out to the hearties Facebook is still you Snow.

Speaker 2:

Facebook is where you do that community though.

Speaker 4:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

It's like those private groups, which is you and your audience. Don't sleep on Facebook, okay.

Speaker 4:

That's how he said Facebook, facebook, simone what people need to know about you, what you got going on.

Speaker 2:

I'm just here, no don't just say you here, you a host you a whole host.

Speaker 3:

I'm a co-host, his co-host. I'm on the Vibes podcast and you can find me at Simone Lenae on TikTok and IG. And I have other things going on, but you know I'd rather not speak about them right now.

Speaker 1:

That's okay Period. You can follow me on TikTok and IG at TheRightTherapist, with an underscore.

Speaker 3:

Underscore where.

Speaker 1:

After the T TheRightTherapist underscore.

Speaker 4:

Okay, alright. Well, I would like to thank all of you, ladies and you, for coming back again, you for being an amazing host and you for you know, we had a little situation, but you still managed to come here.

Speaker 2:

Still came. Y'all was good energy. I said I'm still going to come up here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was good energy.

Speaker 4:

So I want to say thank you for coming, thank you for even setting this connection up. This man, I went through your page and you helped me with a lot of shit too.

Speaker 2:

Don't make me cry. Y'all know I'm going to cry. I need to get evaluated.

Speaker 1:

No, crying is okay.

Speaker 3:

Crying is okay. I need to get a mental health.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we still got one minute how was it working with the kids? I like my teenagers. I like my teenagers Because I've had the babies. I've had the 18 to 24. I like the teenagers. The babies ain't my babies. But you got to filter what you say.

Speaker 4:

You got you. You know my teenagers, I can talk to them just like this.

Speaker 2:

If I could say get your shit I don't say get your shit together, but filter it I'll say you know, I can talk to them just like this. They understand me and I work with teenagers now and they tell me everything. I have such a good rapport with my babies. They open up. But I put all my clients on a person-centered approach. I make everything about them and I pour into my babies. You would think y'all I have like 100 kids. Those are my kids.

Speaker 4:

So yeah, Are you expensive.

Speaker 2:

No, I feel like I like all things. I like cheap things.

Speaker 3:

I like expensive things. You get what I'm saying. I like cheap things, I like your business.

Speaker 1:

Oh, oh oh. I thought she said I like expensive things, I like cheese things.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I thought you were talking about the general. Me too. I like noodles and I like cheese.

Speaker 3:

I like all women, that's what I?

Speaker 2:

you see, y'all got to be more specific.

Speaker 4:

Your business? Are you expensive? I don't, I don't think I'm expensive, but everybody has a different, Do you?

Speaker 2:

bargain on your prices.

Speaker 3:

No, and you should not. You shouldn't I?

Speaker 2:

used to when I first started, but I feel like my prices are very reasonable and I don't bargain because I got it, the people pleaser thing I had to get out of that.

Speaker 4:

Well, help me right now, because you will help me live on camera. I bargain with my prices because I started something for the people. So, even if I see somebody I'm like, oh, I kind of kind of like this. And then I talk to him and I realize, oh, you can't afford what I'm about to give you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

When it's situations like that, do you feel like you should, or I should, discount myself to help somebody else out?

Speaker 2:

Now I used to do that a lot in the past. I feel like if you have, if you set boundaries with yourself, but you can't be doing that with every single client.

Speaker 4:

You can't.

Speaker 2:

I used to do that with every client. I swear, I swear. When I first started I was like, okay, you can't afford this, I'm going to just give you that. No, they get used to that. Yeah, you got to stay in firm. When you go to Walmart, do they negotiate their prices?

Speaker 4:

No, I know.

Speaker 2:

No, and your same client is going to Walmart.

Speaker 4:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Remember that.

Speaker 3:

Self-checkout. People spend money with the ones Can. I noticed that when I do specials, people that never came to me before they coming, when a special was over, no way to be found and my price is not high at all just in general. But when you start discounting, you're not targeting your audience.

Speaker 4:

This is other people that's coming, I'm going to pay because they see that, oh, that's it, that's all she's charging, so I'm coming, you know, to see what she got going on.

Speaker 3:

But it's not, they're not your people, Right right, you know, if you got to discount your services, like no.

Speaker 4:

Do you discount?

Speaker 3:

Lori.

Speaker 1:

I do, but I'm trying to keep in mind self-preservation, so I don't want to offer so many discounts where my business and I'm losing out on money or I'm not able to extend myself and present myself in the way I need to because I didn't offer so much.

Speaker 2:

I feel like if you have that balance, like I said before, if you create, boundaries. Now, if you're doing it for every single client, you about to get confused about your prices, but it's just boundaries, boundaries. Now, if you're doing it for every single client, you about to get confused about your prices, you know, but it's just boundaries.

Speaker 3:

I was about to say. So what about that one client that you do do it for? And now it's like you're at a point where you're, you know, looking at your prices like I'm about to go up, I feel like the only clients that I do it for, and I don't even want to put her name out there.

Speaker 4:

But I have a client in the.

Speaker 2:

Bahamas Actually I am. It's at Duchess Bar. She has her own live studio Like she's no she a boss for real.

Speaker 4:

In the Bahamas.

Speaker 2:

She's in the Bahamas. She found an online community, okay.

Speaker 4:

So she is.

Speaker 2:

Facebook yeah.

Speaker 1:

Facebook.

Speaker 2:

It was actually she found me on Instagram, but she for a one-on-one coaching session. She put in the work. Everything I told her to do, she put in the work. She's I don't want to say, my favorite client, but she's my ideal client. Oh, okay, she is great, right. But now that she's, now that she's grandfathered in, sometimes I do look out for her.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 2:

Because we have a great connection and she come to go to my coach because I get discounts on my coach too, because we I'm still there, right?

Speaker 4:

I'm right there, the business is still here yeah, it's still going, you getting.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying, but like a random person, like a cold audience, not a hot audience, I don't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, yeah, so I get that, because that's that's.

Speaker 3:

That's your choice to do that but I'm saying like suppose you, you know you do like, bend the rules, you know yeah, but at one person and then this person is expecting every time oh you did it for me last time like why you can't do it for me this time. But the beauty industry is different it's different that's totally different

Speaker 2:

in a whole number it's totally different friends.

Speaker 3:

I only see my family or certain family members or certain friends when I'm having a discount. No, like I don't even want to do your head, don't even come to me, go ahead and launch your business. I don't even want to do your head, no.

Speaker 2:

Are you making money from social media, yet I was with the rules, but they stopped that feature Really.

Speaker 4:

Remember they stopped the feature they stopped it.

Speaker 2:

I was pissed when they stopped the feature. I was like dang it, because you know you get paid off each little view. And that's the time I was starting to go viral. I was like, ooh, instagram is a little. You know fake influencer.

Speaker 1:

You wasn't a fluke getting paid.

Speaker 2:

No, I see influencers getting paid paid, but no, I wasn't on that level yet. But no, I was getting paid and then, I don't know, like a year later they stopped it and I was like that's petty.

Speaker 4:

She's an Apple check bazaar. Yeah, so now was all right.

Speaker 2:

So now my audience, the people that pay me, are the people that book my services. But Instagram, they stopped that feature, damn.

Speaker 4:

Well, listen, this has been. I'm not cutting shit. You end the show.

Speaker 3:

I gotta end the show. Yeah, that was just like yeah, no.

Speaker 4:

I'm not even supposed to be here.

Speaker 3:

Why not? How did you get here? She put the bus Come on.

Speaker 4:

You in this show. Come on, you got so much going on in this show.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so what am I saying? I want to say thank y'all for having me. Can I give y'all a shout out? Go ahead, we got to have it.

Speaker 2:

Y'all been pouring into us. Can we pour into y'all? Thank y'all a shout out, go ahead. We got that Because you know y'all been pouring into us. Can we pour into y'all? Thank y'all for having me. Thank you for that connection. Actually, that connection on that little situation, it blossomed because I got the ability to meet y'all.

Speaker 4:

You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

So thank y'all. I love the whole setup. Y'all are very professional and I really see that's all.

Speaker 3:

I wanted to say my elementary school friend.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to Cecil Cecil, elementary Number seven Kirk Avenue. Number seven Kirk Avenue.

Speaker 4:

Number seven. They ain't go to City or Poly, but we gonna give them a pass. Go ahead. Oh, you got any final remarks?

Speaker 1:

sweetheart.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna save me.

Speaker 1:

Go ahead. Thank you, marcus, for putting me in spaces. Oh, hold up. Thank you, marcus, for putting me in spaces. Thank you for putting me in spaces. I would have never even considered you were the first podcast I've ever, ever, ever done and I told you I was never coming back. Keep coming back. I keep coming back.

Speaker 4:

She made me cry.

Speaker 1:

I did not make you cry. We were just having a good conversation and it was about your lovely daughter. Yes, I don't think I would be open to doing podcasts if it wasn't for you, and I'm very excited that I got to meet you and I cannot wait to have you at the event.

Speaker 2:

I know, and we're about to- start connecting and networking Absolutely All right.

Speaker 3:

So can I come in and say something? Go in. So I got here like by default, like the situation. I don't even know how the hell I ended up here.

Speaker 4:

That shit was default as hell.

Speaker 3:

Like it was random. But, Marcus, what's up baby?

Speaker 1:

You are so annoying, you are.

Speaker 3:

Like you're a good guy. Like you're a good guy, like you really are. You really are. You gave me that chance. I appreciate it.

Speaker 4:

I will give it to you again.

Speaker 3:

Aw.

Speaker 4:

You, even though, since we all being honest, even though you were super nervous and you got on my ass last night, I did About how I just bombarded you. I like how, at any point, if I asked you to do something, you were always open, willing to communicate and honest I am and Miss Everybody. You might not be seeing Miss Simone because she has a new job. I do Congratulations.

Speaker 3:

Thanks.

Speaker 4:

That's why today was, and I'm nursing school too.

Speaker 3:

It started back up April 1st, but I will be in and out, though she will be in and out Period, but she is on to bigger and better things.

Speaker 4:

So I want to say I'm proud of you. That's why I needed you to come today, because before you left, I needed you to have that one show, okay, where you showed that personality of yours.

Speaker 3:

Just a little bit. Ain't show it fully, because you know I try to be reserved.

Speaker 1:

But I'm low-key.

Speaker 4:

You got white heels on baby, I'm low-key.

Speaker 3:

off the chain for real.

Speaker 1:

But you know, I I need the real Simone at this event.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, oh wait, I'm coming out.

Speaker 1:

Don't be censored, I'm showing out yes, barbie, no, for real, I yes.

Speaker 4:

Yes, for all the grandmothers. Shout out to Facebook. You still talking about Facebook. This has been another lovely episode of the Vibes podcast. We got somebody all the way from Atlanta.

Speaker 2:

She's not from Atlanta, though I'm not from Atlanta. No, she's not, she lived there.

Speaker 4:

Okay, fuck, it is dummy. You know how it's coming and this has been another lovely episode. We had Miss Dr Wright.

Speaker 3:

Dr Wright yes, period.

Speaker 4:

Dr Dr Wright yes, okay With the Wright therapist coming in and doing her thing, as always, and we have somebody off camera. But we're going to make sure we tag her and put her photo she over here. Put her photo right here, because she got nervous. Would you like to see your friend's introduction?

Speaker 2:

Yes, her here because she got nervous. Would you like to see your friend's introduction? Yes, her name is Quochay and her business is as Long as Feathers. She does lashes she does hair? And she's not one of them fake hairstylists that kitchen hairstylist, she know how to really get down.

Speaker 4:

So that's my girl and I'm not even just saying because she's my friend Period and she won't burn your neck and she's an actress.

Speaker 2:

She's really an actress for real. I can act too. Period.

Speaker 3:

I've seen her. She's really an actress.

Speaker 4:

I went to your tag page, your tag photos, and I was like is she? An actress If y'all got to connect.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to a Tubi movie. She's on the. Tubi, you're on a Tubi movie yes, and I need my lashes done too. Star City motions.

Speaker 2:

Oh, oh, I'm not gonna go watch this, yeah, she's really an actress. She's the one like yeah, she's really.

Speaker 3:

But I'm stupid, though I probably be laughing and shit.

Speaker 2:

No, but we want that, though I said we like I'm an actress y'all.

Speaker 3:

That's another point, maybe you speaking into it Y'all.

Speaker 2:

I can't, I can't ask y'all. It's too much. I won't take it seriously. I'll be laughing.

Speaker 4:

This has the Never Lovely episode and we are out. Catch us on the next one and catch us at the amazing second annual Barbie and Brushes. Wait, wait, wait. Yes, hosted and created and funded and the CEO of it all, dr Right. So catch us on the next one. Everybody's information will be tagged below Go spend that money it's tax season.

Speaker 1:

Period I know y'all got it. Season Period I know y'all got it.

Speaker 4:

I know y'all got it.

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