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All Artist Studio ft Phace

• Season 3 • Episode 65

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The latest episode of All Artist Studio welcomes the multi-talented Phace, hailing from West Orange, New Jersey. As a Haitian-American artist, Phace infuses his music with his cultural heritage, blending it seamlessly with elements of R&B, hip-hop, and pop. In this candid interview, we gain insight into his personal journey in the music industry and his unique creative process. Phace reveals how every track he produces represents a different stage in his life, and how he uses his discography to showcase his personal growth.

During the conversation, Phace offers a glimpse into his poetic background and how his life experiences have shaped his worldview. He opens up about the inspiration behind his song "Invictus," a powerful representation of his emotions at the time. With over 100 songs written this year alone, Phace proves he's an artist in every sense of the word. He also shares the challenges of imposter syndrome and how his family's support has helped him navigate the industry. For anyone seeking inspiration from a rising artist with a unique voice, this episode is a must-listen.





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[Javon Averett]:

Yeah, hear you. All right, let's make sure everything popping on. Jason, I mean Jasmine got it.

[Jayalonz]:

You got a red dot.

[Jace]:

He

[Javon Averett]:

Um,

[Jace]:

does have

[Javon Averett]:

yes,

[Jace]:

a

[Javon Averett]:

he

[Jace]:

red

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does.

[Jace]:

dot.

[Javon Averett]:

We're ready to go. You ready? Face? All right. Cool.

[Phace]:

Yes.

[Javon Averett]:

All right, so

[Phace]:

Yeah, yeah,

[Javon Averett]:

I'll

[Phace]:

yeah,

[Javon Averett]:

count

[Phace]:

let's go.

[Javon Averett]:

you in. No,

[Phace]:

My bad

[Javon Averett]:

no

[Phace]:

guys.

[Javon Averett]:

worries. Don't just forget about it. Forget about all of that.

[Jace]:

We here, man.

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah,

[Phace]:

Yeah,

[Javon Averett]:

none of

[Phace]:

move

[Javon Averett]:

it happened.

[Phace]:

on.

[Javon Averett]:

Production

[Phace]:

Act like

[Javon Averett]:

is gonna

[Phace]:

none of

[Javon Averett]:

be

[Phace]:

this

[Javon Averett]:

like,

[Phace]:

happened.

[Javon Averett]:

wow.

[Phace]:

And

[Javon Averett]:

All right,

[Phace]:

keep going. Hahaha! Hahaha!

[Javon Averett]:

so in three, two, one.

[Jayalonz]:

through his music, he hopes to inspire others with his struggles and triumphs and his stories to help guide listeners through life's challenges. He has a talent for creating energetic and infectious hooks, clever wordplay, and introspective storytelling that hits hard both musically and lyrically. Each single he releases represents a new stage in his development as an artist and as an individual.

[Javon Averett]:

Welcome, welcome.

[Jace]:

What's up, man?

[Phace]:

Yo, that was dope. Thank you, I'm honored.

[Jayalonz]:

Of course,

[Javon Averett]:

You're

[Jace]:

We're

[Javon Averett]:

welcome.

[Phace]:

I

[Jace]:

really

[Jayalonz]:

of

[Phace]:

appreciate

[Jayalonz]:

course.

[Jace]:

glad to have

[Phace]:

it. Thank

[Jace]:

you on,

[Phace]:

you so

[Jace]:

man.

[Phace]:

much.

[Jayalonz]:

First

[Phace]:

For

[Jayalonz]:

and foremost,

[Phace]:

real.

[Jayalonz]:

how are you? How you doing?

[Phace]:

Nah, yeah, thank you for having me on. I'm good, you know, just chilling on Saturday night, you know what I'm saying, slipped in. Saturday morning,

[Javon Averett]:

All level

[Phace]:

Saturday afternoon,

[Jace]:

Where,

[Javon Averett]:

on

[Phace]:

whatever.

[Javon Averett]:

a Saturday.

[Jace]:

where,

[Phace]:

It's just like,

[Jace]:

where you at?

[Phace]:

but yeah, you know, it's

[Javon Averett]:

Hehehehe

[Phace]:

just, you

[Jace]:

Where

[Phace]:

guys

[Jace]:

you

[Phace]:

have been

[Jace]:

at geographically?

[Phace]:

working, so like, geography,

[Javon Averett]:

Okay.

[Jace]:

Okay.

[Phace]:

I'm in Jersey City, like yeah,

[Jayalonz]:

Okay,

[Phace]:

right

[Jayalonz]:

okay.

[Phace]:

next to New York

[Jayalonz]:

So

[Phace]:

right now, so.

[Jayalonz]:

jumping right on in introducing you to new fans. How do you want to describe or how would you describe your music to people who haven't encountered you yet? Who haven't listened to you yet?

[Phace]:

Uh, eclectic. Um, I do a lot of different stuff, but like you guys put, you guys put it perfectly. Like, I really appreciated like the, uh, the fact that you guys recognize that like every song is a, is like, is a, is a representation of a stage in my life. For real. And like, like they all, they all actually do connect somehow. You know what I'm saying? To my journey. So I would just say that, you know, whenever you do, you know, go through my discography, if you do do me the honor of doing that. You would just see that as a story of just my personal development. And I think that we can all relate

[Jayalonz]:

Mm,

[Phace]:

to it in

[Jayalonz]:

okay.

[Phace]:

some certain senses.

[Jayalonz]:

Let's

[Phace]:

And

[Jayalonz]:

start

[Phace]:

then.

[Jayalonz]:

with the name Face. Where did that come from? Was it like a persona that you created or was it something that was given to you? Like, where did that originate?

[Phace]:

Yo, so originally I started off as Babyface. I used to work at the mall, the Short Hills Mall, and I got like, obviously, like a deep baritone voice, like speaking voice. And so like every time people would walk up to me and hear my voice, they would be like, you got a really deep voice, but you got a Babyface. And I was just like, yo, that's like literally what everyone was calling me. So I'm like, all right, I'm gonna call myself Babyface and just put the pH, but like somewhere along the line, like a year or two after, I'm like. I know I want to change it to face eventually, like later on in my career. And like, so eventually I just did, but at what this current point in time, what it means to me, it's kind of like interesting. It's kind of like how like, kind of like Juice World, like how like, it's kind of like, I guess a manifestation, I guess. It's just like face is like, I believe that we're all one in some way. So you know what I'm saying? Like face is just me saying that, like, then I'm saying like, face is just identifying as like, I guess universal consciousness. Like we're all one. My music is just a form of expression so that we can all,

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah.

[Phace]:

I guess, understand

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah.

[Phace]:

each

[Javon Averett]:

In

[Phace]:

other

[Javon Averett]:

our emotions,

[Phace]:

a little better. You know what I mean?

[Javon Averett]:

understand ourselves

[Phace]:

That's

[Javon Averett]:

and

[Phace]:

really.

[Javon Averett]:

our emotions.

[Phace]:

Yeah, exactly. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. And that's it. That's it. Like, that's it. And also like, trying to be like

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah, we

[Jayalonz]:

Sure,

[Javon Averett]:

hear

[Phace]:

the face

[Javon Averett]:

you.

[Phace]:

of

[Jayalonz]:

got

[Phace]:

the

[Jace]:

Yeah,

[Phace]:

music

[Jayalonz]:

to.

[Javon Averett]:

We

[Jace]:

I

[Javon Averett]:

definitely

[Phace]:

game,

[Jace]:

really...

[Javon Averett]:

hear that.

[Phace]:

whatever.

[Jace]:

They

[Phace]:

But like

[Jace]:

not doing...

[Phace]:

the

[Jace]:

They

[Phace]:

more

[Jace]:

not...

[Phace]:

important thing, the more important thing

[Jace]:

They not

[Phace]:

is

[Jace]:

doing

[Phace]:

like.

[Jace]:

double entendres anymore. They not doing double entendres

[Phace]:

Now go

[Jace]:

anymore

[Phace]:

ahead.

[Jace]:

in the game.

[Jayalonz]:

Hehehehehehe

[Javon Averett]:

from beginning.

[Phace]:

Yeah, they not. But that's like.

[Jace]:

I was watching a really good TikTok this morning and it was saying how the reason why music has moved, like listeners of music have moved such a, have moved away from like deep lyrical content or stuff like that because it's a product of the education system being bad. Like If you don't have people that can read

[Phace]:

That

[Jace]:

well,

[Phace]:

was funny.

[Jace]:

and also taking music out of the education system so much, you don't have people who can engage music critically and creatively. And so the deep, heavy, lyrical, the deep lip, and

[Phace]:

That's

[Jace]:

so

[Phace]:

a good

[Jace]:

you

[Phace]:

point.

[Jace]:

have generations of kids for 20 years that have not engaged in music critically from an educational standpoint. and not have consumed music critically in a social setting with other people that are like-minded that are also sharing that music with them. And so now they hear stuff and they're like, this shit ain't making me Dougie or it's not making me do no TikTok dance so I'm not feeling it. Or you just, or even you're ready to move on from an album that just came out and like you ain't, it's been two days and you already putting it down and you ready for the next

[Phace]:

And it's

[Jace]:

thing.

[Phace]:

been two

[Jace]:

And it's

[Phace]:

weeks,

[Jace]:

like,

[Phace]:

like.

[Jace]:

no, the music gotta last

[Phace]:

Yeah.

[Jace]:

nigga. Like, it's supposed to be

[Phace]:

Last

[Jace]:

timely.

[Phace]:

year.

[Jace]:

So they were saying

[Phace]:

Yeah.

[Jace]:

like they don't do dope. They don't like

[Phace]:

No,

[Jace]:

double

[Phace]:

three.

[Jace]:

entendres no most. So when I saw the name face and it was spelled different, I'm like, I'm fucking with it off top. It's like.

[Phace]:

I appreciate that. I appreciate that, bro. That was a good point that you had made about like not like, because I never stuck to an instrument, but like just having music education in school was like integral for like just the way that I perceive music and like, like subconsciously really like I know because I was never like really into it, but just learning that I say you begin to realize you have a deeper understanding than like you

[Jace]:

Yeah,

[Phace]:

actually

[Jace]:

like,

[Phace]:

realize. So like

[Jace]:

because music

[Phace]:

that was

[Jace]:

isn't

[Phace]:

a great point.

[Jace]:

learning how to play

[Phace]:

It...

[Jace]:

instruments isn't a destination. It's a journey because like that journey may take you down a road where, like, where you think I'm feeling

[Phace]:

What? Yeah.

[Jace]:

playing the piano and then all of a sudden you're like, you know what, maybe I'm more of a guitar player or maybe I'm more so of a drummer. And so it's not about getting lost in like that one trail that you went down and it didn't work out. but you still have the experience. And so now that you've touched all these

[Phace]:

100.

[Jace]:

instruments, when you walk into that studio, you can say, I know what these keys need to sound like. I know what those drums want to sound like. I know what those chords on that guitar need to sound like because I've touched all three of those instruments and I may not be

[Phace]:

Yeah.

[Jace]:

an expert at all of them, but I'm a jack of all trades in all of them. I don't have to, you don't, I think the great thing about music is that you don't have to be a complete expert in one thing.

[Phace]:

Nah,

[Jace]:

thing

[Phace]:

100.

[Jace]:

to be great. Which leads me into my question a little bit, like talking about the elements of your music and how they blend, right? So it's different genres. It's R&B, it's hip hop, it's pop, which, you know, we hear those and those are obviously big buzzwords in music because it's like what, because pop is just short for popular music. But I do hear those three genres in like when you really,

[Phace]:

Yeah.

[Jace]:

you know, break the music down. So you speak about the process of blending genres and creating like a, could you speak first about, the process of blending those three genres and how you came up with that unique sound.

[Phace]:

I guess, man, normally I'm like a super competitive guy and like I'm always trying to like be better than the next artists, but I've learned that, you know, that can be toxic sometimes. So I just got to give my flowers like, yo, man, it just comes from being like a Drake fan, like, you know what I'm saying? Like coming up off of Drake, you know what I mean? Kanye, most recently despite, you know, all the controversy with him, Triple X. Cause that 17 project, like I wasn't a fan of him, but I remember to this day when one of my best friends from high school, still one of my best friends to this day turned on 17 and it just completely, you know, shifted my perspective on

[Jace]:

Yeah.

[Phace]:

myself. So, and you know, it's just like this type of stuff that I'm striving to do. So it's just like, you know, like just, you know, looking up to those three, cause I looked up to X melodically, looked up to, you know, Drake melodically and his ability to blend rap and R&B and then looking up Kanye just because Kanye's just,

[Jace]:

What he's

[Phace]:

he'll

[Jace]:

done

[Phace]:

just

[Jace]:

with Chopin

[Phace]:

do whatever.

[Jace]:

solo, yeah.

[Phace]:

So like, I've like, and I think specifically Kanye. Yeah, exactly. Like going from 808 and into 808 Heartbreaks, then Yeezus. And I feel like with Kanye, it was just always... I haven't... I'll let y'all know I got like, I got a mad project and I got a lot in the cut. I got like an album and a couple of projects in the cut. And that's always been my mindset. As I've been building these projects over the years, I want everything to be different. You know what I'm saying? When you go from one project to the next... You know what I'm saying? It's a, when you create it, for me personally, when I create projects and this is like coming from Kendrick, like Good Kid Mad City, Tip & Butterfly, it's about creating a world. It's about like a world with a story. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't have to always be the deepest story because like some of them are more simple, but a story of some kind that where you get to the end and it's like, you feel like you learn something more about yourself, the artist, you know what I'm saying? And it resonates with you. I felt like blending genres is a part of that, you know what I'm saying? Because it's like, with all these different influences,

[Jace]:

You want to get kids

[Phace]:

you

[Jace]:

or

[Phace]:

wanna

[Jace]:

people,

[Phace]:

get kids

[Jace]:

whoever.

[Phace]:

or people,

[Jace]:

It's like,

[Phace]:

whoever,

[Jace]:

you know, I listen

[Phace]:

it's

[Jace]:

to

[Phace]:

like,

[Jace]:

this

[Phace]:

I listen

[Jace]:

genre

[Phace]:

to

[Jace]:

of music,

[Phace]:

this

[Jace]:

but

[Phace]:

genre of music,

[Jace]:

this person

[Phace]:

but

[Jace]:

does all

[Phace]:

this

[Jace]:

these

[Phace]:

person

[Jace]:

different

[Phace]:

does

[Jace]:

things that blends

[Phace]:

all these

[Jace]:

all these

[Phace]:

different

[Jace]:

things

[Phace]:

things

[Jace]:

so

[Phace]:

and

[Jace]:

nicely.

[Phace]:

blends

[Jace]:

It's

[Phace]:

all

[Jace]:

like,

[Phace]:

these things so nicely.

[Jace]:

it doesn't even

[Phace]:

It's like,

[Jace]:

matter

[Phace]:

it doesn't

[Jace]:

to

[Phace]:

even

[Jace]:

me

[Phace]:

matter

[Jace]:

because there are elements

[Phace]:

to

[Jace]:

from

[Phace]:

me

[Jace]:

the

[Phace]:

because

[Jace]:

genre

[Phace]:

there

[Jace]:

that

[Phace]:

are elements

[Jace]:

I like

[Phace]:

from the genre

[Jace]:

and other

[Phace]:

that

[Jace]:

genres

[Phace]:

I like

[Jace]:

that I might not

[Phace]:

and

[Jace]:

listen

[Phace]:

other

[Jace]:

to,

[Phace]:

genres

[Jace]:

and

[Phace]:

that

[Jace]:

I'm

[Phace]:

I

[Jace]:

able

[Phace]:

might

[Jace]:

to

[Phace]:

not

[Jace]:

come

[Phace]:

listen

[Jace]:

to

[Phace]:

to,

[Jace]:

it

[Phace]:

and I'm

[Jace]:

and just

[Phace]:

able to come to it

[Jace]:

appreciate

[Phace]:

and

[Jace]:

all

[Phace]:

just

[Jace]:

the different aspects.

[Phace]:

appreciate all the different aspects. So

[Jace]:

That's

[Phace]:

it's just

[Jace]:

always

[Phace]:

like.

[Jace]:

something that I've enjoyed because

[Phace]:

That's

[Jace]:

it's like,

[Phace]:

always something that

[Jace]:

someone

[Phace]:

I've

[Jace]:

can

[Phace]:

enjoyed,

[Jace]:

turn on

[Phace]:

because

[Jace]:

some

[Phace]:

it's

[Jace]:

jazz,

[Phace]:

like, someone can turn

[Jace]:

and

[Phace]:

on some jazz

[Jace]:

I'll...

[Phace]:

and I'll mess with it, you know what I mean? Because I just appreciate music and I wanna give that to music lovers.

[Jace]:

Yeah,

[Phace]:

But now go ahead, my bad.

[Jace]:

let's get back into talking about your influences. And you had mentioned XXXTanacion and like controversy aside, because I know there is he's a very polarizing artist. But you were talking about the intro. You

[Phace]:

Yeah!

[Jace]:

were you. But one thing that, you know, his fans did mention was like the introspectiveness in his lyrics. And I noticed a lot of that in your lyricism as well

[Phace]:

Yeah.

[Jace]:

in your music and your song Invictus. Um, you get very introspective, um, in like your personal fields of it. And you mentioned like, uh, a quote that stood out was, uh, finding wealth in your pain in that song and, and, which is a unique perspective. And can you elaborate on that concept of, uh, how that influenced your artistry?

[Phace]:

Yeah, I mean, so before I started rapping, I was a poet. So, and I feel like just throughout my life, just I won't say that I had like a bad life, but there was just a lot going on during my life, which just caused me to just be introspective and always like view things a certain way. I always just view things a certain way. I think it's important that we all have our own like perspective on the world. And I feel like through lines like that, finding wealth in my, I think that's an important perspective that I have that I could just share, you know what I'm saying? But if I keep, like, I don't like even like talking about how I feel and stuff, but like I've been through a lot of pain in my life, you know what I'm saying? Throughout all my life. And it's like. I feel like around the time of Invictus, when I wrote that record, it was like, if I keep it real, it was like a time when I just like cut off a lot of people. I wasn't really even talking to my own family like that. It was just me and my girlfriend really out in California. And that's why the song starts like, Trial by a Son in the Desert,

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah.

[Phace]:

because I was literally in the desert. I remember I pulled up to a B&B and we were going from B&B day by day, bro. Like for a little bit, bro, it was crazy, but we were going to B&B day by day and we pulled up to this one B&B and it was just like, I don't know, you know there's just those days where you just like, I don't know, it was just a feeling, it was just the energy in the air and I just threw on some beats. I'm like, I wrote it and it was like, I don't know, this is something special. So it was just like everything that I was feeling. Like at that time, it was a summary of everything that I was feeling. Like... And it was just like, sometimes it's like, bro, sometimes it's like, at this point, before it was like more of a concerted effort to try and create these like lines and stuff. But as I've done it more and more, and like I'm a, it's like, I'm an artist, bro. Like this is what I love to do. Like, you know what I'm saying? When I, like this year alone, like a hundred songs, like no question,

[Jayalonz]:

How

[Phace]:

like

[Jayalonz]:

has

[Phace]:

no

[Jayalonz]:

that been

[Phace]:

doubt,

[Jayalonz]:

though?

[Phace]:

like I'm an artist. So.

[Jayalonz]:

Life as an artist as opposed to like before when you before you allowed yourself to really fall into it the way that you have now. How is it? How has life changed for you? Like how does it feel now?

[Phace]:

Yo, I feel like, I think a lot of people talk about like the imposter syndrome. So I feel like, I think like for a little while I've been getting pulled back and forth from that. Like, so like, sometimes just feel like the man and feeling like an artist, like, I feel like the world is mine. I'm free to create and do it. I apologize about the sirens,

[Javon Averett]:

You in

[Phace]:

but

[Javon Averett]:

the city, it's all

[Phace]:

I feel

[Javon Averett]:

right.

[Phace]:

like the world is mine

[Jayalonz]:

That's

[Phace]:

and I could

[Jayalonz]:

all,

[Phace]:

just

[Jayalonz]:

then.

[Phace]:

do whatever I want.

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah.

[Phace]:

Yeah.

[Jace]:

I was gonna say it adds

[Phace]:

That's

[Jace]:

to

[Phace]:

it.

[Jace]:

the

[Phace]:

Yeah,

[Jace]:

Jersey

[Phace]:

yeah, yeah. Yeah,

[Jace]:

City

[Phace]:

yeah, yeah.

[Jace]:

aesthetic.

[Phace]:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jayalonz]:

Yeah

[Jace]:

It adds

[Phace]:

Yeah,

[Jace]:

to the

[Phace]:

yeah,

[Jace]:

aesthetic.

[Phace]:

yeah. Yeah,

[Jace]:

It really shows me you in there, you in there. I'm

[Phace]:

but,

[Jace]:

saying

[Phace]:

um.

[Jace]:

you in there right now, you in

[Phace]:

Yeah,

[Jace]:

the

[Phace]:

we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,

[Jace]:

thing. I'm just playing.

[Phace]:

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[Javon Averett]:

syllabus.

[Phace]:

potential for

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah,

[Phace]:

earnings.

[Javon Averett]:

okay.

[Phace]:

And I was just like, yeah, well, not syllabus too. But like, I was, I would look at the potential for earnings for like, if I was like, the head of a marketing company,

[Jayalonz]:

Got to. Get

[Phace]:

and

[Jayalonz]:

it?

[Phace]:

I would be

[Javon Averett]:

Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

[Phace]:

like, bruh, I'm working, I'm working so hard for something that I don't necessarily like to not even make the money that I want to make. So it was like, all right, I'm gonna take I'll take it upon myself to just, you know, break out of my shell and just give this a try. Also being inspired by like, I used to be around Chris Patrick around that time and he was teeing off. That was like 2017 when I decided he was teeing off in Jersey. And then obviously being inspired by Earl Swisher and like, another person with very poetic lyricism to your point earlier, Jace. And it was just like trying to find that balance of like... being this person that is like trying to people please. Obviously like my parents, you know what I'm saying? Go to college and like,

[Jace]:

Yeah, you're

[Phace]:

it

[Jace]:

trying

[Phace]:

just

[Jace]:

to

[Phace]:

like

[Jace]:

check all those boxes.

[Phace]:

tugging with that for a long time.

[Jace]:

Right, you check

[Phace]:

Moxes,

[Jace]:

it.

[Phace]:

exactly.

[Jace]:

Yeah, because

[Phace]:

And you're...

[Jace]:

you think that's what you're supposed to do. And then you like you have this. We had this conversation with with Moses the Marauder as well, like him wrestling with the, you know, I want to tell my parents I'm making music instead of like, you know, going down this marketing

[Phace]:

Yeah!

[Jace]:

path and stuff like and so it's really interesting because you think you. It's not even that you think you want to do that stuff. It is, you know, things that you want to do. It's things that not that you want to do for your parents, but you want to do for yourself. But college is about experimenting and finding out what is that you want to do. And if that leads you to a path that's unconventional, then so be it as long as you can make the reality possible. Right. You took what you wanted

[Phace]:

Exactly.

[Jace]:

and you took the idea, the vision of what you want, and you made it reality and you're making some good fucking music.

[Javon Averett]:

Speaking of good fucking music,

[Phace]:

Yo, I appreciate that, man.

[Javon Averett]:

my favorite song by you, and it goes, now that we're talking to you, it goes to that exact thing of you building those worlds, but it's like Atlas is my favorite song. That's my favorite song by you, right? And

[Phace]:

I appreciate that, bro. Yeah, I appreciate

[Javon Averett]:

there's

[Phace]:

that.

[Javon Averett]:

a line in there. I know you... emotional, not getting emotional with it, but just thinking of this one line that really spoke stuck out to me. He said, I used to dance with the shadows, always in the right. I'm the nigger you should follow. And that makes sense now, because you tell the niggas to follow their dreams, you know, and not

[Phace]:

Yeah.

[Javon Averett]:

go in there into these

[Phace]:

Yeah.

[Javon Averett]:

community

[Phace]:

Yeah.

[Javon Averett]:

colleges and really like do things that aren't gonna reap the type of ROI as people think they are. You're just going to find yourself in this like cyclical, like weird

[Phace]:

Yeah.

[Javon Averett]:

place that you really didn't want to be. Can you go through that song and tell me that process? Like that's something, like, honestly, I love it because it switches. It switches in the middle

[Phace]:

BRO

[Javon Averett]:

and it's so fucking crazy, yo. Like, I don't even, like, honestly, when I hear that, every time I hear it, I'm like, I got to play that

[Phace]:

Yeah, I

[Javon Averett]:

at

[Phace]:

appreciate

[Javon Averett]:

least twice.

[Phace]:

that.

[Jayalonz]:

Ha!

[Javon Averett]:

Like at least twice. Like, so tell me about

[Phace]:

Yo,

[Javon Averett]:

that.

[Phace]:

I appreciate

[Javon Averett]:

Tell me

[Phace]:

that,

[Javon Averett]:

about

[Phace]:

bro.

[Javon Averett]:

that song, tell me about that song, cause

[Phace]:

I'm

[Javon Averett]:

I'm

[Phace]:

honored.

[Javon Averett]:

a fan right now, I'm a fan.

[Phace]:

Yo, I'm honored for real, bro. Yo, if, yo, keep it up, man. I wrote that song in 2020. I wrote it in 2020. And shout out Evan, shout out Evan Bernie. Burn, excuse me, Evan Burn and Tom Santos. They're the two producers that are on it.

[Javon Averett]:

Mm-hmm.

[Phace]:

But this was kind of like in a time that kind of connects to Invictus just talking about like how I felt like the people around me, I wasn't sure if I could trust the people around me. And it was a time in my life where I was getting a lot of like, a lot of, you know, attention from like labels, you know, a lot like popular groups and artists and hip hop. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people were like, and I honestly wasn't used to it. You know what I'm saying? And coming from where I come from, I come from two, I'm a first generation Haitian American. And You know, my parents are, you know, straight from the island and, you know, they just view culture differently. And, you know, um, just certain mental health issues with my mother, which weren't necessarily passed down to me, but affected like my belief systems

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah.

[Phace]:

and, you know, create a lot of paranoia within me. So

[Javon Averett]:

Right.

[Phace]:

I felt like Atlas was a, was a, was a kind of like me fighting between that paranoia and that, you know, wanting to, wanting to be free and like, that was like, you know, me just saying like, yo, I'm just gonna go, like I'm just gonna go. I don't know where I'm gonna go. I don't know how I'm gonna go, but I feel this moment. And you know, I don't know if this moment is meant to actualize now. You know, it's literally exactly how I felt like, just with like all these people like eyes on me, you know what I'm saying? And just right before COVID too, you know what I'm saying? Right before COVID like COVID hit and it's just like, that was literally like the moment for me. Like that was just like how that moment felt. Cause at that time, I'm like, bro. I, it's just never been like that. So I was just feeling like, you know what I mean? I was just feeling like, yo, I don't know what's gonna happen. And so like, just like a lot of different things with people around me, you know what I'm saying? Seeing people around me, like you said, settle,

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah.

[Phace]:

not, you know, not,

[Javon Averett]:

Trying to push you,

[Phace]:

not wanna push through

[Javon Averett]:

right.

[Phace]:

necessarily. Yeah, and I am mainly, bro, cause I don't need anybody to push me,

[Javon Averett]:

Okay,

[Phace]:

you know what I'm saying?

[Javon Averett]:

okay.

[Phace]:

Like, just push. push themselves. Like

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah.

[Phace]:

I love other people like so much that I always wanna see them at their best. Cause I, that's how I like, if you come to me and you help me, that's how I see you. I see what your best. So like, it was just a lot of, it was just a lot of like stuff like that where I was just feeling like isolated. And that like kind of is the reason for some of those lines.

[Javon Averett]:

And then to in.

[Phace]:

And you know, it just also, go ahead, go ahead.

[Javon Averett]:

too, like in that song, in that song, you can tell like kind of where you stopped doing, like you stopped allowing the past or like those things that were indoctrinated when you were a kid or in a household, like you can see that, you can literally hear the change where you're like, okay, this is the world that I have, and this is where I'm going to be at, and I'm going to stake my ground

[Phace]:

Yeah.

[Javon Averett]:

in it. And you come back on that second part of that song so crazy strong that it's just like, Damn, like,

[Phace]:

Yo, appreciate you, bro.

[Javon Averett]:

who is this guy?

[Phace]:

Yeah,

[Javon Averett]:

What

[Phace]:

bro.

[Javon Averett]:

is he really about? Like, that is the part.

[Phace]:

Ha!

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah.

[Phace]:

Shoot. Yo, I appreciate that, bro. Cause like, I really don't like, I don't always know like how people perceive it. So like I'm honored that you even see it like that. And you even understood that. But it was like, it was even like, it was like, it was interesting. Cause like, like walk through the valley. Not when I said

[Javon Averett]:

Yes.

[Phace]:

like, I walked through the valley, not the valley of death. Like literally like where I grow up, where I grow up is called the valley.

[Javon Averett]:

Hmm

[Phace]:

You know what I'm saying? So it was just like, around that time I was getting ready to leave for Atlanta, I just remember even, you know what I'm saying? Right before I got my car to dip out to go to Atlanta, just walking through the valley, like feeling like, yo, this is gonna be the last time. You know what I'm saying? This is the last time I'm gonna be walking through here. Things being the same as it was, that's where that song

[Javon Averett]:

And

[Phace]:

comes

[Javon Averett]:

then

[Phace]:

from.

[Javon Averett]:

it's

[Phace]:

You

[Javon Averett]:

like

[Phace]:

know what

[Javon Averett]:

a

[Phace]:

I'm

[Javon Averett]:

double

[Phace]:

saying?

[Javon Averett]:

entendre because

[Phace]:

That

[Javon Averett]:

if

[Phace]:

type

[Javon Averett]:

you

[Phace]:

of shit. And then...

[Javon Averett]:

are, I know the Haitian-American family and that culture of just spirituality, walking through the shadow of the valley of death, like that, I shall feel no evil, like

[Phace]:

Yeah

[Javon Averett]:

for it to be that plus, brother, like, godly, I'm finna shout

[Phace]:

Yeah, bro.

[Javon Averett]:

on here. Uh, just. But,

[Jayalonz]:

Uh oh.

[Javon Averett]:

mm-hmm.

[Phace]:

Yeah, I appreciate you. Yeah, I appreciate you. Yeah, I appreciate you, bro. Yo, ironically, bro, like one of the, now go ahead, go ahead.

[Javon Averett]:

No, go ahead, you finish, you finish.

[Phace]:

One of the biggest things for me was in the beginning, talking about the beginning, and this was before I dropped out, but this was right when I was talking about that decision I made, this was after that. Literally, I had never been to Haiti before, before almost a month, during the month of my 21st birthday, I believe. My parents, my mom took me out to Haiti. And like, I got to, you know, see the country, see the country and like, there was no internet. So literally all I was doing was just straight writing,

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah.

[Phace]:

you know what I'm saying? Straight writing and like, that's like what, like, I was writing like that before, but not as hard, but like that month is like what, you know, they say it takes 21 days to like build a habit. Like that was like what built my work ethic. Like, and I have, like, I have, since 2017, I have not gone back. You know what I'm saying? I've taken breaks. Like before I got back on social media, I took a break on social media like last year, like for like four or five, six months. And I wasn't writing any music, but like, I'm usually, most of the time, just straight music.

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah. Well, let's switch gears. Let's switch gears and talk about your experience as an independent artist so far. You talked about it a little bit, but more so like the functions of it. In the years that you have been releasing music, has there been an approach that has changed from how you go from writing a song to releasing it? We talked about songwriting a lot because you end there writing, we can tell. The pen is crazy.

[Jayalonz]:

I'm sorry.

[Phace]:

Yeah,

[Javon Averett]:

So like

[Phace]:

appreciate you.

[Javon Averett]:

you can see the poet

[Phace]:

Thank you.

[Javon Averett]:

in it, you know what I'm saying? So it's different. That's a different type of pen. But how does

[Phace]:

Yeah,

[Javon Averett]:

it

[Phace]:

yeah,

[Javon Averett]:

look

[Phace]:

yeah,

[Javon Averett]:

like

[Phace]:

appreciate

[Javon Averett]:

to release

[Phace]:

that, man.

[Javon Averett]:

this stuff to the world now that you have a clear compass of who you are behind the mic, you know, and who you are like when it comes to writing? What does that look like to giving it to the world in a way that's like, so they can understand where the cloth is cut different?

[Phace]:

Yo, that's a loaded question. I wanna start off by saying this. So like when I, I'm like, you know, like I'm not a lot of people, you know, end up, you know, blessed with certain circumstances

[Javon Averett]:

Right.

[Phace]:

that I've been blessed with. But like, I can't like, okay, I'll talk, speaking on that month in Haiti, literally two months after that, I got offered a distribution deal, no money involved, but. like a distribution deal with fashion early, which really helped like put my position, like help raise my streams and put mine. Obviously I was doing my groundwork and, you know, put in my work, put in my work in, but that actually that, that makes for a good point later on, but I was doing my groundwork, but I was signed to a distribution deal and I was signed to the distribution deal until 2020. And then in 2020, I had, um, I had, uh, decided to go independent because that's when a lot of like labels and stuff were hitting me up. So like, I had a bunch of labels hitting me up. like big labels. So I'm like, I'm gonna go independent, give it a try. Um, I did it for a couple months and I wasn't even really releasing music like that. I was just letting my old music, you know what I'm saying? Doing my rounds networking. Um, and then I signed a district, another distribution deal with a EQ, which is like a, um, a division of rock nation. And then, um, that didn't work out. I did three songs with them that didn't work out. So then I was independent for like, uh, like a year and a half fully. And it was like. Bro, just like I think as independent artists, I think being independent, it's important to not overthink it.

[Javon Averett]:

Okay,

[Phace]:

You know what I'm saying?

[Javon Averett]:

okay, okay.

[Phace]:

Don't overthink it. I think one thing for me was like having, I didn't have a machine, but just having like, having a structure behind me when I did go independent, my confidence was affected, because I'm like, well, I don't have this structure around me thinking that like the structure is what made

[Javon Averett]:

Right,

[Phace]:

me. You know what I'm saying?

[Javon Averett]:

right.

[Phace]:

At the end of the day, like independent sign, bro, like it don't really matter. It's about you as the artist, you know what I'm saying? It's about you as the artist and your vision. And it's really like, for me personally, like I honestly just signed like a joint venture deal, like a couple months ago. But one thing that I found is that even going into this deal is just like, stop listening to what people got to say. You know what I'm saying? do it your own way, you know, regardless of stop listening to the gurus. You know what I'm saying? Just stop. You know what I'm saying? Even like, even when I realized my career, when my career had the most success is all the times when I didn't, I ignored the gurus, you know what I mean? I just went with what my heart told me. I think it's important as an artist, just follow your heart, even with the marketing. Follow your heart because just like. No, I didn't know you guys were listening to me. Like, you know what I'm saying? I didn't know that, you know, this opportunity would be presented to me and obviously I'm honored, but you know, it's just like, that's how I feel like music is a very spiritual creative thing. Like if things flow like that, when you're doing music, like sometimes you can just, like one thing I've found, sometimes bro, like I think about Drake's on the radar interview. One thing he said, it's not really as planned as people think it is. As I'm flowing and I'm just moving through it and I'm just living life and I'm just like, yeah, I have a plan. I have a lot of music planned out, obviously, which I'm in a lot, I'm in a different position than a lot of artists. Like while I was independent, that's what I was doing. I was recording, recording, recording, recording, recording. So that way I would be ready for when somebody came and I'd be like, look, I got all this. But like, and you can always approach it a different way. Like that's exactly it. Like you can approach it the way I did it. You can. You can be independent and be like, yo, I'm not going to release that much. And I'm going to do these certain projects to show that. Look, I got a picture to paint. That's what I wanted to do with like the Invictus, the Godchild, like going from that sober soul music video

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah,

[Phace]:

and the Golem music video,

[Javon Averett]:

sober soul.

[Phace]:

which were like they. So like more grander videos. It was just like to show like, look, this is like, yes, I, I do sober soul type stuff, but like really where my mind is, is like Invictus. I want to tell us, I want to tell. Sober Soul is telling the story in the song, but the video doesn't necessarily tell that full story. Like, this is what I wanna do, this is who I am, this is how I feel about stuff. And like, just like, creating that identity, like you said, like, how do I paint this picture for the world? And it's like, it's all about you, man. It's all about, like, it's not about any of the artists that you're standing next to, you know what I'm saying? Yes, it is. Like, we all wanna uplift each other, but when it comes to you telling your story. comes to you releasing your music, you expressing your dream, like you get this life to just, you know, create it how you want to, you know what I'm saying? Like to like really like express yourself how you want to. I would say just don't get too caught up, you know, in the guru stuff, like, or trying to like, you know, strategize too much, bro. If the biggest artist, one of the biggest artists in the world is telling you it's not as planned as you might think it is, it's not. Like one thing I've realized. with like being in this place where like my heart is light. What I'm saying? I wake up every day, like thinking everything is possible, which I've been in previously, but just not as intentionally as before and not for as long. It's just like, bro, things are flowing in a very natural way. And it's like, you barely, you like, if you know what you want, you know what I'm saying?

[Javon Averett]:

It's

[Phace]:

And

[Javon Averett]:

gonna come,

[Phace]:

like,

[Javon Averett]:

it's gonna

[Phace]:

and

[Javon Averett]:

come.

[Phace]:

I'm a big believer. Exactly, I'm a big believer in like, I've been researching a lot of Neville Goddard. You know what I'm saying? people like this, like Joseph Dispenza, like meditation and like visualizing and using your imagination. And I'm gonna start, for me personally, this works.

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah, we love Amanda. Listen, way

[Phace]:

I'm

[Javon Averett]:

back

[Phace]:

not

[Javon Averett]:

when we started with romanticizing your life and all of those types of things, that was the type of podcast

[Phace]:

Yeah!

[Javon Averett]:

we were. So like now we really under, we take that seriously. And that's what we, in that question, is really looking for the artists to say, like, how does this look differently for you? And like, what is it that keeps you going? What's that compass? And you really kind of said that, like, it's like. It isn't really anything besides what I want and then how I give it to the people. So it's just,

[Phace]:

Exactly.

[Javon Averett]:

I like that for an artist, that it's not.

[Jayalonz]:

I was gonna say it's a couple of reels I saw in there and already production wise

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah, you know,

[Jayalonz]:

It's

[Javon Averett]:

you

[Jayalonz]:

a couple

[Javon Averett]:

already

[Jayalonz]:

of

[Javon Averett]:

know.

[Jayalonz]:

reels Instagram

[Javon Averett]:

It's a couple

[Jayalonz]:

reels

[Phace]:

That's

[Javon Averett]:

of reels.

[Phace]:

lit. That's lit. That's lit.

[Javon Averett]:

We produce

[Phace]:

Yeah, that's awesome.

[Javon Averett]:

it. We produce it.

[Jayalonz]:

But that

[Phace]:

Yeah,

[Jayalonz]:

those

[Phace]:

let's

[Jayalonz]:

are all

[Phace]:

go.

[Jayalonz]:

the questions

[Javon Averett]:

Eheh

[Jayalonz]:

those are the questions we got for you and great questions they were great answers But

[Phace]:

Yo,

[Jayalonz]:

it is time

[Phace]:

thank

[Jayalonz]:

for our

[Phace]:

you.

[Jayalonz]:

game

[Phace]:

It was

[Jayalonz]:

Hmm

[Phace]:

awesome.

[Jayalonz]:

you telling us it's time

[Javon Averett]:

Hahahaha

[Jayalonz]:

It's time

[Phace]:

Oh, thank

[Jayalonz]:

for

[Phace]:

you.

[Jayalonz]:

our game 45 seconds on the clock.

[Javon Averett]:

I got

[Jayalonz]:

See how

[Javon Averett]:

it.

[Jayalonz]:

many,

[Javon Averett]:

Oh,

[Jayalonz]:

okay.

[Javon Averett]:

keep going,

[Jayalonz]:

See how

[Javon Averett]:

keep

[Jayalonz]:

many

[Javon Averett]:

going.

[Jayalonz]:

you can answer in 45

[Phace]:

Alright, let's

[Jayalonz]:

seconds.

[Phace]:

go.

[Jayalonz]:

High score is 10. Nobody

[Phace]:

Alright.

[Jayalonz]:

has beat it yet. I think we gotta play the game, Coho. Anyways, let's

[Javon Averett]:

Okay.

[Jayalonz]:

get into it. Are we going?

[Javon Averett]:

All right. Ready, set, go.

[Jayalonz]:

What is your favorite fast food chain?

[Phace]:

Chick-fil-A. tweet. Umm... Princess Diana.

[Jayalonz]:

Which artists would you love to collaborate with in the future?

[Phace]:

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[Jayalonz]:

Last song you listened to?

[Phace]:

something unreleased tomorrow. Life.

[Jayalonz]:

What is more useful when it is broken? That's a riddle, I believe. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Ha

[Phace]:

That was good. That's a gorilla. I don't have no

[Jayalonz]:

ha

[Phace]:

idea.

[Jayalonz]:

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[Phace]:

I had no clue. I

[Jayalonz]:

ha. That was six.

[Phace]:

had no idea.

[Javon Averett]:

Okay, okay.

[Jayalonz]:

Okay.

[Javon Averett]:

Six. The answer to that riddle is egg. It's better

[Jayalonz]:

Cough!

[Javon Averett]:

used track than

[Phace]:

Ah, that

[Javon Averett]:

bro. Yeah.

[Phace]:

was good, that was

[Jayalonz]:

Right,

[Phace]:

good, that was good.

[Jayalonz]:

right,

[Jace]:

Ah,

[Phace]:

That

[Jayalonz]:

right, right.

[Jace]:

six

[Jayalonz]:

Okay.

[Phace]:

was

[Jace]:

is

[Phace]:

good.

[Jace]:

the number six is appropriate since you're a fan of Drake with all the six, six,

[Jayalonz]:

He be wanting to say that every chance you get.

[Jace]:

six, six.

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah.

[Jace]:

So it makes sense. It

[Phace]:

Yeah,

[Jace]:

makes sense. It's very apropos.

[Jayalonz]:

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[Jace]:

It's

[Phace]:

yeah,

[Jace]:

very

[Phace]:

yeah, yeah, right,

[Javon Averett]:

Everything

[Jace]:

apropos.

[Phace]:

there we go.

[Javon Averett]:

is good.

[Jace]:

We'll

[Javon Averett]:

But

[Jace]:

say

[Javon Averett]:

Faith,

[Jace]:

you did it on purpose.

[Javon Averett]:

it has been a pleasure

[Phace]:

Nah,

[Javon Averett]:

talking

[Phace]:

nah, nah.

[Javon Averett]:

to you. It has been a pleasure talking to you and

[Phace]:

Yeah,

[Javon Averett]:

really

[Phace]:

same

[Javon Averett]:

getting

[Phace]:

here.

[Javon Averett]:

to hear the mind behind the music. But before we let you go, really tell the

[Phace]:

7.

[Javon Averett]:

listeners where they can reach you. how they can stay in contact with you, like what you dropping next, if you got that type of information. Let us know, like how they can tap in with you.

[Phace]:

Well, once again, I'm 1000% honored for you guys to have me. The questions were amazing. The introduction, everything was perfect. I appreciate it so much. Right now, like I said, bag out right now. Tight Fist dropping April 28th. And yeah, we gonna keep it running. We drop music every month. Project coming in a couple months. EP coming in a couple months. And I got collaborations coming along with producers. And we're just gonna keep the music coming. Merchandise, NFTs coming soon. You can reach me on Twitter, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, whatever, at PHAC3 underscore on all platforms. And I'm on all platforms where you stream your music and you know what I'm saying? Appreciate y'all, man.

[Javon Averett]:

Yeah.

[Phace]:

Appreciate it.

[Javon Averett]:

Is that merch that you have on right now, that P that you have on your chest?

[Jayalonz]:

Uh

[Phace]:

Yeah,

[Javon Averett]:

I

[Jayalonz]:

oh.

[Javon Averett]:

see

[Phace]:

yeah,

[Javon Averett]:

it.

[Phace]:

this is my logo. Yeah, this

[Jayalonz]:

Okay.

[Phace]:

is a

[Javon Averett]:

Okay.

[Phace]:

collab that I got going on with one of my girlfriend. She has like own little brand. So like, I got like

[Javon Averett]:

That's

[Phace]:

a bunch

[Javon Averett]:

huge.

[Phace]:

of merch. Like I got a bunch of merch at night. Yeah, we've

[Javon Averett]:

It

[Phace]:

had

[Javon Averett]:

looked

[Phace]:

this like,

[Javon Averett]:

like,

[Phace]:

yo, we've had this for years.

[Javon Averett]:

it looks like actually like a durag. And it's kind of sending me, cause you got a durag on, like it looked like the top

[Phace]:

Oh,

[Javon Averett]:

of

[Phace]:

you

[Javon Averett]:

the durag.

[Phace]:

ain't going,

[Javon Averett]:

So

[Phace]:

yeah. Yeah.

[Javon Averett]:

I was like, I don't know if you're doing that, but I'm gonna take it there. But it sounds.

[Phace]:

Nah, nah, nah. No, I appreciate you, man.

[Javon Averett]:

We, again, listeners, this is how you get in contact with them. You hear that we all are fans. So definitely go tap in with them listeners. So. But that's all we have for you today. Y'all say bye.

[Phace]:

Later, y'all. Peace.

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