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Get Personal: Transitioning Church Leadership for Growth Beyond 200 People with Todd Tolson

Scott Reib Episode 30

Episode 30 Description: 

“Church growth is just as mechanical as it is spiritual. There's a lot of crossover between church growth and business growth.” —Todd Tolson


Reaching 200 attendees is a make-or-break moment for any church. It's the divide between stagnation and the potential for exponential growth. However, breaking through this invisible ceiling requires changes— in leadership, in programming, in community outreach.

Todd Tolson has over 30 years of experience in vocational ministry. Through the implementation of strategic growth practices, he helped plant and grow multiple churches. Todd now focuses on coaching other pastors on effective church planting and expansion through his company, The Church Playbook.

Tune in as Scott and Todd discuss the power of making church personal again, the benefits of creating a ‘dream 100 list’ to expand reach, the importance of developing sustainable schedules and leadership models that support growth, and more.



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As the official Zig Ziglar Small Business Lawyer and a Ziglar Legacy Certified Trainer, it’s no wonder that Scott Reib is known as “America’s Legal Coach.” For the last two decades, Scott has been helping business owners, entrepreneurs, and coaches “shatterproof” their businesses by implementing specific strategies for structure, growth, and protection. 


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Episode Highlights:

01:16 The Church Playbook

09:07 Breaking the 200 Barrier

16:24 Get Personal

19:57 Get Out and Reach Out