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The 5-Minute Rule: Live Like Today Is All You’ve Got

Life is short, and tomorrow isn’t promised. In this powerful conversation, the Rise Up Kings team unpacks what it means to “stay alive until you die” and why five intentional minutes with your family, your marriage, or your calling can transform everything.

From biblical wisdom in Psalm 90 to real-life stories of loss, resilience, and legacy, this discussion will challenge you to stop procrastinating, break free from comfort, and live fully present right now.

Whether you’re a father, leader, or man of faith, this episode will inspire you to:

- Maximize every day instead of waiting for “someday”
- Apply the 5-Minute Rule to your family, marriage, and work
- Reject comfort and choose growth through pruning and refining
- Embrace survivor’s obligation and live with no regrets
- Retire from comfort, not from purpose—your pulse is proof you still have a mission

Don’t just survive life. Show up and live fully.

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00:00:01:13 - 00:00:20:26 Unknown Stay alive until you die. How short are our lives? Really? The impact of our life is not measured in its length, but its impact. Because tomorrow isn't guaranteed. The truth is, is most likely. Tomorrow is coming and living today completely authentically. All in giving it all. How we live our lives today matters. Knowing that if I were to die tomorrow. 00:00:21:01 - 00:00:38:24 Unknown I don't want to. But I'm totally okay with it. We're not called to procrastinate or wait. When God calls you to move and gives you the talent, gives you the ability to go do something. We're called to move now. Living every day like it's your last. Because you don't know when it's going to be. Living every day is like when I don't want to lean in to whatever it is. 00:00:38:24 - 00:00:56:21 Unknown Conversations work out. My marriage. That's my opportunity. Like, take that opportunity and see where God takes it. I don't have to carry the weight of having to perform five years from now or five minutes from now. I have to show up right now, in this moment. And it's so freeing just to say I have to do the right thing right now. 00:00:56:22 - 00:01:16:23 Unknown Did God call us to retire? Absolutely not. When I get comfortable, that's when I know something's wrong. You can do things that almost seem impossible to do with one degree of change. You don't have as much time as you think. Welcome to the coach's corner. I'm your host, Coach Mondo. Man, we have some powerful brothers here, and we're going to have a great conversation that's going to help you level up. 00:01:16:23 - 00:01:40:19 Unknown And the way you show up every single day in life. We have Pastor David Mann, amazing human being with incredible wisdom and insight. We have the CEO of constructible, Jared Hellams. And then we also have Brian Crowe. He is one of our coaches as well. And he oversees operations and programs here at Rise Up Kings. And we also have a former marine man, amazing human being, my man, coach John Wood. 00:01:40:20 - 00:02:01:18 Unknown He and I do a lot of work together. I see a lot of transformation. Really excited about the conversation. Lean in because this can be a powerful, transformational moment for you. In Psalm 90, verses 12 to 14, it says, so teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts until wisdom return. Or Lord, how long, and let it repent thee concerning thy servants. 00:02:01:18 - 00:02:21:25 Unknown Oh, satisfy us early with thy mercy, that we may rejoice and be glad all our days. So I read this scripture that said that life is but a vapor, and the other day I had this thought, man, like how short? 00:02:21:27 - 00:02:47:26 Unknown How short are our lives really? And how much does it matter to maximize every day? You know, we make plans and some people like, oh, I'll get to it. I'll get to it. Some point in the future. But what if that opportunity never comes? How can we operate in wisdom to truly number our days in light of the perspective of eternity? 00:02:47:28 - 00:03:16:02 Unknown To realize how short our lives really are. Even if you live to be 100 years old in perspective of eternity, what does that mean? So, yesterday I was talking with Charles Smith. You remember Charles, lost his 15 year old son a year ago, and he. He was planning the the vigil, for his son on the one year anniversary. 00:03:16:02 - 00:03:52:12 Unknown And he was sharing with me that his, the what he wanted to share with the the people who came. Was that, two things that life and that the impact of our life is not measured in its length, but its but its impact and call his son had an impact in his short 15 years and also that the because tomorrow isn't guaranteed how we live our lives today matters. 00:03:52:14 - 00:04:20:29 Unknown And and we must take that seriously to maximize our impact on the other people. That was a really powerful reflection, from his deep pain. So I learned personally, firsthand, about the we're not guaranteed tomorrow. You know, watching, going through a death of a son, going through the death of a child. I realized then that it's not just about maximizing my life for my life, but maximizing my life. 00:04:20:29 - 00:04:42:00 Unknown Because I never know when you know, when your last day is either. And so if I'm trying to impact that as well, if I, if I want that to, I want to live knowing that the time that we had together was maximized. And so if you, if you wait if you, if you procrastinate, if you do anything, you're not guaranteed anything. 00:04:42:02 - 00:05:18:18 Unknown And beyond my son, I'm reminded now, my dad, we've known for a long time but was was recently diagnosed with with Alzheimer's and dementia. And so that's even a stranger situation to me because you never know he's still here, but he's not there. I mean, it's not the same man. And so even though I still have the opportunity to go see him, I think and I wonder, man, where did I where did I not where did I not invest 100% or did I not go all in with that relationship? 00:05:18:20 - 00:05:42:05 Unknown But then to think about the the ramifications for when I'm gone. Like when, when my daughters see me, to maximize that man, I've been stuck on the parable of the talents for so long and and in it it says the first one received five and he went immediately. There's so many references in the Bible to people going immediately. 00:05:42:07 - 00:06:09:23 Unknown We're not called to procrastinate or wait. When God calls you to move and gives you the talent, gives you the the ability to go do something. We're called to move now and it's because of this. Come on. So for me, obviously everything that these men have said a lot of wisdom in that. So I would like to speak a little bit about what that produces when you're a man, who lives every day, puts everything on the table, goes all in, leaves nothing undone, nothing unsaid. 00:06:10:02 - 00:06:26:03 Unknown I came to that a couple of years back. You know, I, I've seen a lot of people injured on the job. And, you know, some people have died, and that's really caused me to really dive deep into this idea of, you know, no regrets, no regrets, or, you know, I think it was a prophet who said, no regrets, right? 00:06:26:03 - 00:06:49:27 Unknown Didn't a famous prophet say that these are every gotcha. And, I've lived that way for a long time now. And, what, in an application, how that shows up for me is anytime I'm in a situation, even in a, in a day, like I'm getting ready to leave Texas today. So I'm in my mind, I'm thinking to myself, is there anything left undone here before I leave this phase or this season? 00:06:49:27 - 00:07:02:12 Unknown This temporary season? Is there anything left undone in this day that I need to do? And because I don't want to have any regrets, I don't want to have any. I don't want to do anything. I don't ever want to look back and think, oh, I should have done this, or I could have done that. I don't want to be that man. 00:07:02:12 - 00:07:26:10 Unknown I want to be the man who takes it, takes every opportunity. And, what it's resulted in is just a so much richer life. Because the truth is, is most likely tomorrow is coming, right? Most likely it is. And living today completely authentically, all in giving it all, saying everything I have to say, doing everything I have to do, knowing that if I were to die tomorrow, I don't want to, but I'm totally okay with it. 00:07:27:06 - 00:07:45:13 Unknown Right. And it just it the, the enrichment and the peace that that's brought me in my day to day living and in tomorrow. And it does show up to feel good about how I showed up yesterday. Right. It's powerful I think. So my experience inside of that is like taking every moment, every opportunity for impact and actually leaning into that. 00:07:45:14 - 00:08:16:16 Unknown I think we can get so busy, we can get so, tired at times that when, you know, the Holy Spirit moves or God gives you that opportunity to lean in somebody. And as coaches, you guys do such an amazing job. Like leaning into that moment, like taking the opportunity to have that conversation or call that person up or, Coach John, I watched you yesterday and one of the experiences that we had where it was like there was, there was a moment where you had a choice to lean in or lean out, and you really leaned in and, like, gave the opportunity for that person to have that experience. 00:08:16:29 - 00:08:33:29 Unknown Not only does that grow you, but then that that gives that person the opportunity to step up and grow as well. So for me, that living every day is like when I don't want to lean in to whatever it is, conversations work out in my marriage. That's my opportunity. Like, take that opportunity and see where God takes it. 00:08:34:02 - 00:09:01:24 Unknown You know, if I could speak to that, I think that's a perfect example of what brought me to where I am now. The man I am today is the man I am today is because of moments like that, you know. So I've had some brothers, for example, who've taken their lives. And when you've been through something like that, for me, it was impossible for me to go through that season where a brother that I served with worked with blood with, you know, just lit, did life with for him to, after the fact, take his life. 00:09:01:26 - 00:09:25:04 Unknown I had to ask myself like, did I miss something? Was there something I could have said? Was there something? And when you when I found myself in those spots, I could almost always find something like, man, maybe I could have said something or noticed something. And that's just changed everything about how I show up. Because when a man has, for example, I saw that as a threshold moment like, hey, we're getting ready to move this, and I don't know what's going to happen with this guy. 00:09:25:04 - 00:09:42:16 Unknown He's going to having a totally emotional reaction, and I want to go all in at this moment because if something bad were to happen, that's not my responsibility, but it is my responsibility to show up in the moment, in the moment. And again, I just want to be that man who just has again, no, no regrets about anything. 00:09:42:18 - 00:10:03:16 Unknown I love that, I mean, so many people that do live with regret and they seem to be a shell of themselves. And there was this concept as an athlete when we play football, was play every play like a shoelace, because you never know when it's going to be. And I remember one of the guys getting injured and he was just so distraught, went into a depression because his football career was over prematurely, and he was good enough to go to the highest level and play on a professional level. 00:10:03:18 - 00:10:22:18 Unknown But thank God he was smart enough to be an engineer and he had to go into that career prematurely. So at least it leads me to this thought about survivor's guilt. And when you've worked in the service industry, the military, it happens. You just talked about it. So many of the guys that you work with that you built this strong bond with no longer here. 00:10:22:18 - 00:10:44:27 Unknown And then you question like, man, should that have been me in that seat? Should that have been me on that mission? And I heard this term from a friend. That is the contrary of survivor's guilt. And it's survivor's obligation. And I've been stuck on this thing about survivor's obligation because it's like living every day, like it's your last, because you don't know when it's going to be. 00:10:44:29 - 00:11:13:06 Unknown So for me, I have this, this inner desire to to give all of myself every day, in every moment. Because you never know when that last opportunity is going to come, when that last breath is going to take place. And for me, as I look back at the trajectory of my life and I look at the family history, I've lost four grandparents prematurely to some type of cardiovascular event, whether it be aneurysm, heart disease, high blood pressure, high cholesterol to led to, premature death. 00:11:13:08 - 00:11:42:23 Unknown One one grandparent died from cancer and all of them died early. All of them. So when I think about that, it gives me even more motivation to show up every day, because there's one thing that's guaranteed for all of us. And it's not we're not getting out of here alive. So how do you show up every day intentionally giving 100% with survivors obligation for those who may not have the motivation right now, if you're listening to this and you're thinking, man, like, I'm just not motivated, I've gone through some hard things like my life is challenging. 00:11:42:23 - 00:12:02:25 Unknown I have a lot of responsibility. I'm tired by. What do you say to that person right now that's listening to the saying that sounds good in theory, but how can I show up for my spouse? How can I show up for my kids? How can I show up and give more in my in my work in such a way that I can make an impact, even though it may seem insignificant? 00:12:02:28 - 00:12:26:00 Unknown So I'd like to add one thing about survivor's guilt, just as I have some experience in that. You know, I had a, really close friend of mine who died in a helicopter crash, Staff Sergeant Craig Dahm and one of the important things to realize that helped me in my healing was that even though I have a responsibility to live every day to the best of my ability, that I absolutely have no responsibility over whether or not someone lives or dies. 00:12:26:07 - 00:12:45:03 Unknown And, it was hard for me to grapple with that when I first heard it, but it's almost an idea of arrogance like that. I had some kind of control over who would live and die, and that's not the case because there's three businesses in the world, right? There's my business. There's other people's business, and then there's God's business. 00:12:45:06 - 00:13:13:06 Unknown And if a brother chooses to take his life while is sad and tragic is that is that is absolutely out of my business. That is in his business and in God's business. For me, my responsibility is just to show up authentically is the best version of myself every time. Beautiful a lot of times. And this is me in the past, and this is something that I've learned, is I don't have to carry the weight of having to perform five years from now or five minutes from now. 00:13:13:06 - 00:13:31:27 Unknown I have to show up right now in this moment, and it's so freeing just to say, I have to do the right thing right now. And I picking up the guilt and the shame from the past. I don't have to worry about that. I can let that go. But I also just have to show up now. Oh, now, you can do that. 00:13:31:27 - 00:13:48:06 Unknown It's so freeing. And you just don't have the pressures of of what's going to happen in the future. So, so on that. Jared, I heard this quote, if you want to go change the world, go home and love your family. So talk to the person right now. It's just like, man, look, I'm a stay at home mom or I'm I'm maybe at home with my kids. 00:13:48:06 - 00:14:09:07 Unknown Like, I put in the work and I'm exhausted. I just put in a 12 hour day, like, what do you say to that guy who's beat? Be intentional, be intentional. Show up. And what's crazy about it and what I see in my life is, is when I do show up, even if it's for five minutes, that five minutes moves the needle so much. 00:14:09:07 - 00:14:31:04 Unknown If I'm truly intentional and truly present, and then what happens is that muscle grows in five minutes, turns into seven and seven turns into 30, and then before long, if you're owning now, or if you're living right now with intent with your family, that becomes the focus. And I think a big part of that, too, is like, God's grace is enough, right? 00:14:31:05 - 00:14:47:02 Unknown Like, like Paul had that thorn and he prayed for it to be gone. And God said, my grace is enough. Like, you're going to have things in your life that are that are pulling you away. You allow things that you're having to fight through. And I think submitting that stuff in prayer, crying out to the Lord like God, what is this inside of me? 00:14:47:02 - 00:15:10:29 Unknown Change this in me. God's grace is enough. Like there's space for for God to work through that thing. Whether it's fatigue, whether it's family, whether it's marital issues, personal failures, like God's grace is enough. Like bring that in front of him, surrender that, and then take the next step forward. I love what she said. So good. Brian. So the the phrase live every day like it's your last. 00:15:11:01 - 00:15:34:03 Unknown If you think about that literally, that would be exhausting, right? Yeah. So we but but the but the intention is clear right. The the idea behind it is really live every day like it's your best right. Like like what is the best way for me to live this day. What is how do I maximize today. And I'm two verses come to mind. 00:15:34:03 - 00:15:54:27 Unknown One from John nine where Jesus said, the night is coming when no one can work, right? So the clear implication there get get busy. And then Ephesians five, it says, make the most of every opportunity, for the days are evil. The implication there is because the days are short, right? So this idea is not just in the Old Testament. 00:15:54:27 - 00:16:16:22 Unknown It's clear in the New Testament from both Jesus and Paul to make the most of every opportunity. And I'm, I once, saw this sermon where the the preacher, brought up a, a muscle guy, and he had him squeeze a grapefruit by hand, and he said, you got to squeeze every little bit of juice out of every day. 00:16:16:24 - 00:16:35:10 Unknown And at the time, I thought that was so dumb and gimmicky. And I think about it all the time. Yeah, I got it worked. Gotcha, gotcha. Yeah. How do I get the most out of every day, the most impact out of every day? Because every day that God has put me here, how how am I going to give him a return on investment? 00:16:35:10 - 00:16:54:25 Unknown Not to try to measure up, but because it's a gift? How do I give that gift back to him and to the people in my life? Beautiful, beautiful. So you talked about this grapefruit being squeezed. And I'm reminded when I'm at the Bible school, one of our professors did something similar that sticks in my mind every time I think about life. 00:16:54:25 - 00:17:13:05 Unknown And he talked about imagining a barrel in front of you that is filled with water, and you stirring that barrel and stirring the water is hard and as fast as you can, giving all of your effort. And then as soon as you take your hand out, it symbolizes you leaving this earth. And in just a matter of moments, the water settles again. 00:17:13:07 - 00:17:32:18 Unknown So is it a waste of time? All the hard work, all the effort? I think 3 or 4 generations from now, will they even know your name? What does it matter to show up with impact of five minute increments? What does it matter to take these things and submit it to the Lord? What does it matter to give 110% every day and live every day like it's your last or your best? 00:17:32:21 - 00:17:53:06 Unknown Why is that even important? When in just a matter of moments or what is going to settle? And yes, people will mourn. People will grieve when we leave this earth. Hopefully, if you've had somewhat of an impact on other lives, but in just a matter of days, people are going to go back to business as usual. So why is it important to give all this effort and stir yourself in such a way? 00:17:53:11 - 00:18:19:08 Unknown Because our labor is not in vain. In, in, in first Corinthians 15 where Paul is talking about the resurrection. He says our labor is not in vain. Meaning what we do now matters into eternity. Sometimes we get into this escapist theology. Oh, everything we do here, this is all going to pass away. Life is just a monopoly board, and we're just going to fold it up and put it on the shelf. 00:18:19:08 - 00:18:38:24 Unknown When we go to heaven to get to the real reality that is not the truth of Scripture. The truth of Scripture is that heaven and earth are made for each other, and and the heaven and earth will come together, and the earth will be recreated, not in a way that that puts everything away, but that where all of our work matters into eternity. 00:18:38:27 - 00:18:57:09 Unknown Not just not just the impact we make on people's lives, but also how we care for the creation that God has entrusted us with it. The mandate to Adam and Eve. At the beginning of Genesis was not just for them, and it's not just for for this earth. And then it's all going to be packed up like a monopoly board. 00:18:57:11 - 00:19:33:10 Unknown It matters into eternity. Beautiful. You know, you just spoke about the selfless part of being a Christian, and I'd love to speak into the selfish part of being a Christian. And, what I hear you describing is the sanctification process. Showing up each day, trying to become more Christlike. And while there is a selfless, result from that, the selfish part, I believe, is one of the greatest things in my walk, because as I've shown up, is that man who goes all in, pouring into people every day, trying to become more Christ like. 00:19:33:13 - 00:19:57:25 Unknown My life just keeps getting better and better and better and easier and richer. Like my marriage. I just I have never been so loved by a woman. And I know that's because I'm. I'm receiving what I'm giving. But the more I can die to myself and try to be as Christlike as possible in that marriage, and to show up to her the way that Jesus showed up for the church, it comes right back to me like a boomerang. 00:19:57:25 - 00:20:19:00 Unknown And it's the most incredible experience ever. And it's I think it's one of the biggest secrets of, Christianity in that comes from not from memorizing Bible verses, which those things are. That's good. And reading scripture is good, but living it every day to the best of your ability. The fruit that comes from that is just next, next level. 00:20:19:03 - 00:20:54:21 Unknown Okay, so I'm thinking about a few people that come to mind who are comfortable. And I put in a work or retired. I've earned my stripes. And I'm curious, you guys are all some high octane dudes. You've achieved so much in your life. You've done more than most people will ever dream of accomplishing, and you're still putting in the work every single day. 00:20:54:24 - 00:21:17:00 Unknown Some of you have already retired from one career, some some maybe two. And you're still showing up every single day, like here early so you can pour another lives. Why is that important? Like, is comfort okay. I mean, you put in the work, you've earned it right? Is it okay to sit back and relax a little bit like, goodness gracious. 00:21:17:02 - 00:21:46:01 Unknown I think the Bible specifically talks about rest. Rest is good. Yeah. Doesn't talk about comfort. Oh, like comfort is not a biblical topic, right? Like we're made to be constantly striving. That's how we're created. And I think when people get comfortable and I'll speak for myself when I get comfortable, that's when I know something's wrong. That's when I know that I'm not leaning in, or that I'm not pushing myself, or that I'm not stepping into the next level of whatever it is I'm being called to do. 00:21:46:04 - 00:22:05:09 Unknown So, I, I think comfort is a really good temp check. Like, if you ask yourself my comfortable right now, you might you might not be in the place where you're supposed to be. Right? So, the Bible talks about like, grace coming off of situations for men and that's their, their, that's their indication that it's time to move. 00:22:05:11 - 00:22:28:15 Unknown Right. So that's how I see comfort. If I'm in a place of comfort and I'm like, oh, man, this is this is comfortable. This water's lukewarm. That's when it's time to go. Not in the word got to analogies that come to mind. And these are two of my favorite things, is if we're trying to grow, if we're trying to really grow, growth is caused something. 00:22:28:17 - 00:22:54:22 Unknown Something leads up to growth. And that's the pruning process. And there's nothing comfortable about pruning when you're truly being pruned. It is a very uncomfy rebel situation. You're literally having to remove things that are harmful and keeping you from growing, from yourself. Whether it's action, visceral fat. I don't care what it is. It's not a comfortable thing. 00:22:54:25 - 00:23:16:15 Unknown That's what leads to growth, and that's what leads to growth around you and allows everything around you to grow if you're properly pruning yourself. The other the other thing is, is the refining of metals, that refining process to bring the the bring the impurities up. Again, it's heat. It's pressure. It's a lot of things that are not comfort. 00:23:16:17 - 00:23:35:18 Unknown It's not in a comfortable state. And if you're looking for a comfortable state, then what are the results you're going to get? Is overgrowth, all the things that are bad. So that's constantly what comes to my mind when when I'm thinking I want potato chips or to sit on the couch. So is it a sin to be comfortable there? 00:23:35:19 - 00:23:55:11 Unknown I mean, like, I can't sit on a couch, need some potato chips? Is that what you're trying to say? You're like, what's up with that, bro? Like, I earned this thing, man, for for some. Yeah, absolutely. If if all things are good, but all things are not good for you. Oh, oh. So what I hear you saying is it's okay, but is it the best? 00:23:55:11 - 00:24:15:13 Unknown Right. So you may be asking that question right now, like, okay, bunch of high octane dudes and you're trying to tell me I can't sit back like I put in 20 years of my career, I retire twice. Well, I will say this. You can continue down that track and live a mediocre, lukewarm life, right, bro? Or you can realize that there is more for you. 00:24:15:16 - 00:24:33:26 Unknown A couple things here. Number one, when you study scripture, you'll see that most people in Scripture that had a significant impact on the world that we read about today in our Bibles, achieve the most in the latter years of their life. You and I can just run down the line. You can look at the Apostle Paul, you can look at Jesus. 00:24:33:28 - 00:24:56:28 Unknown The last 10% of Jesus's life was the most impactful. We're still talking about it today. You can look at Moses after living 120 years, right? By the way, he did climb a mountain, okay, to his own funeral at 120 years old, and the last third of his life was the most impactful. So I can keep going all the way through Scripture where you see this impact. 00:24:56:28 - 00:25:15:29 Unknown You got something? Send it. Yeah, absolutely. So if you if you spend 20 years and then you retire for what. For what. What, what what's your goal. Is your goal to sit back and do nothing. Or did you work for 20 years to, to cause impact and do something else. So for what. Yeah. And did God call us to retire? 00:25:15:29 - 00:25:38:08 Unknown Absolutely not. So, we have this thing in our culture where we say so there's there's play, there's work and there's rest, and we say play for the first 20 or 25 years of your life and then work for the next 40 years of your life, and then rest for 20 years. The problem is, we don't rest enough in the work phase. 00:25:38:12 - 00:25:59:13 Unknown We don't play enough in the work phase. Right? But if we can have the balance of work, play and rest throughout our adult life, then, then retirement doesn't make any sense. So, speaking of sermons that I thought were dumb when I first heard them and know that that they stay in my head all the time. Pastor. Yeah, yeah. 00:26:00:14 - 00:26:19:28 Unknown I remember walking by it was when I was in Bible school and that it was a full day. And so the, the, the sermon was being piped into the this other room there besides the chapel when I heard it. And I never heard this preacher before. And he said, stay alive until you die. That's my main point today. 00:26:19:29 - 00:26:43:19 Unknown Stay alive until you die. And I thought, that is so stupid, I am, I am moving on from here. And I did not listen to the rest of the sermon. But that's the key. Stay alive until you die. And in retirement, I've. I've repented of retirement because my my whole thing was how quickly can I get to that point where I don't have to work anymore and stop having an impact, right. 00:26:43:22 - 00:27:10:14 Unknown So the idea of saying I'm done working is saying I'm no longer going to stay alive. I'm just going to wait to die. So what I hear you saying is that your breakthrough is just outside of your comfort zone. Okay? So you can break through what's tried to break you, but it's going to cost you to get comfortable being uncomfortable. 00:27:10:16 - 00:27:32:28 Unknown How can you do that today? Because you have a pulse. You just take your finger right now, and you just do like this. Yeah, that's called a pulse. It's because you're still alive. There's still work for you to do. So are you willing? It is your choice. And you can say no and that's fine. You can live a mediocre, lukewarm life. 00:27:33:00 - 00:27:54:10 Unknown You think about boiling water. It goes from 0 to 211 degrees, and they can make you some hot coffee or tea. You can, warm a baby's bottle. I got 11 kids. So that's what comes to mind for me, at least. There's a lot of things you could do with lukewarm water. You can take a shower, you can take, you know, take a bath. 00:27:54:12 - 00:28:12:25 Unknown And those things are those things are fine. We need those things. But if you want to make an impact that leaves a legacy in this world, and you want to do what God truly put inside of you to do, it's going to live in the hearts of people after you, going to cost you to take that one extra step, that one extra degree from 211 to 212 degrees. 00:28:12:25 - 00:28:41:15 Unknown Now you can power locomotives. You can move cargo from one country to another. You can do things that almost seem impossible to do with one degree of change. My question is, do you think you're worth it? Do you believe that God deposited something in you that can truly touch the world? And if not the world, maybe just your world? 00:28:41:18 - 00:28:45:17 Unknown Is it worth it? 00:28:46:10 - 00:29:03:22 Unknown I think every one of us, deep down, has the voice that says and still wants to drive. It's whether we want to listen to that voice. It's whether we we truly choose to listen to that voice or push that voice down. And if we push it down enough times, then then we can block it. It's it's noise. 00:29:03:25 - 00:29:09:11 Unknown We don't even hear it anymore. 00:29:09:14 - 00:29:36:20 Unknown So why why? Why does someone opt out? Stay alive? If that's the one thing I could stay alive. But why do some people live as if they're the walking dead? Why? What happens? Was it trauma? Was it that you were hurt? All of us go through some type of pain in our lives. But what's the difference between those who take that pain and turn it into a platform versus those who stay stuck? 00:29:36:23 - 00:29:56:17 Unknown And then how do you break through? How do you break through? I think from my observations, I think when people lose track of their purpose and, that can happen in a lot of ways. But I think in if we're talking about the guy who retires, it's because. Right. For example, I experienced this when I retired from law enforcement. 00:29:56:19 - 00:30:19:06 Unknown I had a change of purpose, and that was a critical moment for me where my purpose was changing. And I think sometimes when a purpose is removed. So I think the NFL is a great example when, you know, some guys come out of the NFL and for an injury or whatever, their time is just passed and they've transitioned out of that and they feel like I have lost. 00:30:19:06 - 00:30:40:24 Unknown My purpose has been taken for me. Well, there's more purpose out there for you. You're more than just an athlete. Yes. You know, you're you're more than just a physical specimen. When you're young, as you grow older, you know, you have so much more to give. And I think that sometimes men live so in one purpose that when that purpose is removed, they just don't know what to do with themselves. 00:30:40:26 - 00:30:59:28 Unknown And I believe that's one of the things that leads to early law enforcement death. The cops do. I mean, there's some other things in there. They talk about the hours and, you know, but most cops don't live very long after retirement. And I believe that has to do with the loss of purpose, because as men, we were created to work. 00:30:59:28 - 00:31:23:16 Unknown It's in Genesis, like we were put in the garden to work. That's that's that's our purpose. And when you take that away, you know, what's the point? I mean, and I would say there's absolutely no sin in comfort. There's no sin in it. But, it has its place. Rest absolutely has its place. But, if that's what your purposes, I think you're misguided. 00:31:23:16 - 00:31:47:10 Unknown And I think that's not going to serve you in the long run. So good to, by way of agreement with that, before I repented of retirement, I, I consumed an embarrassingly voluminous, amount of information about retirement. And although I love that word that you just say, let me say that again, please. That was just beautiful. 00:31:47:10 - 00:32:14:25 Unknown Luminous. Yeah. Someone Google that for time. That was for over at. So I know he will vocabulary out and that's the eight anybody. But I just need to see the spelling of a woman asking you voluminous. Yeah. That was beautiful. Yeah, I keep going. I just heard donkey saying it again. Oh, that makes me Shrek. 00:32:14:28 - 00:32:41:08 Unknown It's voluminous, so I love large in volume. Yeah. Let's go. To what point is way too much content? Okay. And, this guy, this guy was retired, and he said he said all the research shows. And here's what I found myself. You cannot retire from something. You have to retire to something. You have to retire to a new purpose. 00:32:41:10 - 00:32:59:27 Unknown And it can be something that you don't get paid for. But the worst thing he said you can do is retire from your work and not have anything purposeful to do. And he had he had the right amount of gray hair for me to to trust him. I could tell he was at that stage and he had learned the hard way. 00:32:59:29 - 00:33:26:17 Unknown Wow, wow. So in Ecclesiastes chapter three, it talks about the seasons. There's a time and a season for everything. A time to live, a time to die, a time to sow, a time to reap, a time to love, a time to hate. A time to fight. A time to be at peace. And when I think about these seasons of life and I think about the word retire, retire, two words to be tired again. 00:33:26:19 - 00:34:03:12 Unknown So do you work for 40 years in an organization just to get the clock, and everybody take five minutes to celebrate you, and then you got the golden ticket, or is there more? Because the Bible that I read, as I said earlier, shows people making a significant impact, taking the lessons, the life, the trauma, the pain, the success, the failure, and bringing it to this point in their latter years where they able to share that wisdom in a way that leaves a legacy for those that are coming behind them. 00:34:03:15 - 00:34:22:15 Unknown So for those that are listening again, we're not we're not trying to say you're sending if you're if you're retired. Okay, that's not the point here. The point here is there's still more for you to do because you have a pulse and therefore you still have a purpose. So praise God, if you were able to retire from a career that is amazing. 00:34:22:15 - 00:34:51:00 Unknown Like we celebrate that. And the question is, how has this season change where you can still show up and make an impact on this world? Because we need you. We need you. The question is, will you show up? You got something that the world needs and each of us have a purpose. So when we step into that purpose individually, collectively, we can change the world. 00:34:51:02 - 00:35:18:11 Unknown You said collectively and, when John was because John was speaking, I was thinking, what about what about our affiliations and the people that we hang out with the most? And if you're hanging out with and I could come up with 100 different scenarios, but if you're if you're hanging out with people who's whose only goal is to go to the park and play checkers, then you're going to go to the park and play checkers, and that's what you're going to do, that that's what your life is going to look like to. 00:35:18:11 - 00:35:36:12 Unknown Whereas if you're hanging out with Brian Crow, you're probably going to be doing some crazy workouts and you're going to be pushing hard. You'll get Jack real quick. You're going to get. Yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea and you're going to be real uncomfortable. If your whole goal is to go play checkers, you're going to be uncomfortable hanging out with Brian Chrome. 00:35:36:15 - 00:35:55:25 Unknown So you have to evaluate who you have around you to and what your goals are. And if there's a reason that you feel uncomfortable, that's that's something telling you. If you're uncomfortable, there's something telling you that you need to look at it. That's good. And while you're saying that Jared I thought and if you're hanging out with Brian Crow you're going to be very uncomfortable playing checkers in the park. 00:35:56:01 - 00:36:24:00 Unknown Yeah. Right. Because that because you're just going to look at that and go for what. So that I can have a 60% win rate at checkers. Yeah. I mean, I'm really good at checkers, but not I don't play checkers, I play chess, I say, you do, you just. I'll say with your, checkers analogy there, my experience of men is we thrive and enjoy the adversity more than anything. 00:36:24:02 - 00:36:43:21 Unknown So even just taking checkers, this is my experience of men. And I don't play checkers. But what I know of men is if we went to the park to just play checkers, and it's relaxed and it's comfortable and everyone's just playing checkers, right? Some guys are like, oh yeah, that was a good time. But if you if a dude shows up and he's like, hey, let's turn the checkers, let's put something to stake. 00:36:43:21 - 00:36:58:13 Unknown Let's like, like let's make a checkers tournament. And then whoever loses the tournament, you know, has to do like three burpees or whatever, like all of a sudden all the dudes are all in and they're like, this is the most epic thing ever. And the only thing, the only thing, he added was a little bit of competition, a little bit adversity. 00:36:58:14 - 00:37:16:22 Unknown Yeah. So even in comfort and play, right, that adversity serves us very, very well. It's like what we were created for, right? We're created to conquer, to to do stuff. Right. Oh, I love where you're going with this. This is so good. Because I think back to the University of Delaware. Coach Casey Keeler was a head coach at the time. 00:37:16:22 - 00:37:34:29 Unknown We went six and six the year before, and he said, next year we're going to win a national championship. He recruited a couple extra guys and every single game he would always give us the same speech. And it was very short and succinct. It was brief and brilliant, but here it was. Men. There's one thing that I can guarantee for you that's going to happen in this game today. 00:37:35:01 - 00:38:01:07 Unknown You will face adversity. How you handle that adversity will determine if you win or lose the game, and then he will walk off. So we expected the adversity and we stepped up to the challenge and we gelled as a team. So I'm thinking about the man or the person who's watching this, and you've experienced adversity and you feel like you took an ill and you've been on the bench, you've been on the sideline. 00:38:01:09 - 00:38:13:25 Unknown How do they get reengaged to know that whether you win or lose, there's still a fight for you because you still have blood running through your veins. 00:38:13:27 - 00:38:33:04 Unknown Well, I, I absolutely reject the idea of losing anything. I haven't lost anything in like 30 years. Let's go. Yeah. It's like it's either I win or I learn. There you go. Right. There's no loss is never an option. Because a loss can only occur if I give up. That's only because then I say the game is over. 00:38:33:07 - 00:38:55:11 Unknown Yeah. And I get to choose when the game is over and I choose to not, not quit. Come on. So it's either I win it or I learn it and I can come back again. And then that either results in a win or a learned boom. Yeah. What if you're playing on the wrong rules? We've talked a lot about what happens after retirement, but what if you're ten years into your career and all you're looking forward to is retirement? 00:38:55:13 - 00:39:11:27 Unknown You've robbed yourself the ability to win. You've robbed yourself, the ability to go and live now and really produce something now. It's worth it. There's no win. And in that scenario, 00:39:11:29 - 00:39:31:16 Unknown If I can go off topic, this does not mean that you don't save for retirement. Yeah. No, it's true story like, because because there may come a day, there will likely come a day when you can't work for money anymore. Yeah. And you don't want to be a burden on your family. Sure. And you should get to a place where you're a financially independent. 00:39:31:20 - 00:39:51:23 Unknown Yeah. And you work recreationally. You work because it's your purpose not because you have to 100%. So I just want somebody to walk away from this conversation going, sweet, I don't need to save for retirement anymore because I'm never going to retire. That's not something that's 100% up to you, and it's not something we're saying right. Exactly. And be responsible. 00:39:51:25 - 00:40:13:25 Unknown And as your physical impact on this world is decreased, your spiritual impact is increased. So like be prepared to step in to whatever that mission that God has for you post, post retirement. Right. Like there's more work to be done, like you said about Jesus and Paul later in their life. Like you should be equipping yourself to be able to lean completely into whatever it is that God has for you. 00:40:13:29 - 00:40:39:04 Unknown The second that you're your job on this earth is done. Uniform. And if we lean into our purpose, we should reach a place where our the monetary value of our work is greater than our need for stuff. Let's go. So that there should be a margin there that is put away for our children and our children's children. 00:40:39:07 - 00:40:58:10 Unknown Man this is really, really powerful. I'm thinking about one of the men that came through one of our events had a really, really deep connection with his brother. And on day one when we started the event he kept opting out. He was quitting and I called it what it is. I was like, hey are you quitting? Like why did you take the time to come here? 00:40:58:10 - 00:41:12:18 Unknown Why did you take time away from your business, from your family? He's a coach, I can't quit and I said, I hear your words, but your actions, your results are telling me that that's what you're doing. He's like, well, what does it look like for me to get reengaged? I said, what it looks like is for you to get up and do the best you can with what you have. 00:41:12:21 - 00:41:30:00 Unknown But he got back up and he got reengaged with what we were doing, and then he would have to take a break. And then we get reengaged and we take a break. And then one of the particular exercises that we were doing, as we were concluding the course on day three, he was struggling. So I came up to him and he couldn't quite hear. 00:41:30:00 - 00:41:54:05 Unknown So so I had to kind of yell, you know, I was like, hey! He's like, hey, coach. I said, can you run? He said, no. I said, okay, if you can't run, then walk. I said, can you walk? He said, no, coach. I said, okay, if you can't run, then walk. If you can't walk, then crawl. I said, can you crawl? 00:41:54:05 - 00:42:04:20 Unknown He said, yes coach. And he finished out the course crawling. 00:42:04:22 - 00:42:22:23 Unknown And I quote Doctor Martin Luther King with that. As he said, if you can't run and walk, if you can't walk, then then crawl. And if you can't crawl and keep it moving. And that's what he did. And I said, why are you here? What is your purpose? What are you doing this for? He says, I gotta show up for my family. 00:42:22:25 - 00:42:48:28 Unknown Now keep in mind his brother is almost 70 years old, but he knew there was still morning. What I was about a month ago. And last week I got a call from his battle buddies saying he had just passed away. Just past. He's gone. But for the time that he was here, that that last month of his life, man. 00:42:49:00 - 00:43:12:21 Unknown He had a quality of life with the quantity of life. That was given, although it'd be short, it was very impactful because those that he loves experienced him fully showing up. And that's what this entire talk is about. How can you fully show up? 00:43:12:24 - 00:43:30:26 Unknown So if you can leave everyone here with a thought, keeping a few things in mind. Number one, those who have put in the work, those who are exhausted, those who have raised children, they've gone through a lot of hardship. They've put in decades of work in a career, and they've technically earned the right to be able to enjoy some of the fruit of their labor. 00:43:30:28 - 00:44:02:26 Unknown Think about that person, but then also think about the person who may not have shown up. And there's so much more life for them to live with the caveat of tomorrow's not guaranteed for any of us. Now we're all getting out of here the same way. Not alive. What would you say in closing to those who are watching this, looking at where they fit into this story? 00:44:02:28 - 00:44:10:22 Unknown Your work matters to God. 00:44:10:24 - 00:44:31:14 Unknown You know, I was thinking earlier that I don't know how this ties in, but your prayer life has to match your actions. Your life has to match your prayer life. And so when you start to make those congruent, God will start moving. 00:44:31:16 - 00:45:01:15 Unknown I would say, never minimize your opportunity for impact in any moment. There's no matter. No matter what you believe, your ability to impact someone or a situation is. God's ability is so much greater. You know, I'd say, especially since this conversation is seems like it's lean towards the, the older demographic of men. I'd say, man, you are so needed right now. 00:45:01:17 - 00:45:23:04 Unknown Like the young guys are hungry, right? They're just so hungry for great mentorship. And I feel like generally as a society we're failing in that. Right? Like, they don't want you, we don't need you out on a fishing boat, you know, by yourself all day, you know, in your 60s. We need you to grab some young guys and take them with you and teach those guys how to fish. 00:45:23:07 - 00:45:39:27 Unknown Right? Because they're hungry for a man. They're so hungry for it. And I think that's the, You want to change the world, you know, start with yourself. And then. And then the next step is one young guy, right? Because that guy is going to have impact, and you could completely change the trajectory of his life just by sharing your experiences. 00:45:39:29 - 00:45:57:15 Unknown Beautiful. So, I think about my wife right now. She's coming up the mind and thinking about the relationship she had with her mother and father. They got divorced when she was nine, and her father raised her. And it came to a point where this relationship has so much distance with her and her mother, so much so that she had to give up on that relationship. 00:45:57:20 - 00:46:20:28 Unknown And after we had our eighth child, my wife finally came to a point where she had to become the mom she never had. And it was shortly thereafter that we got a phone call that my mother in love, had been diagnosed with cancer and she'd been fighting it for four years without letting anyone know. And at the end of her life, as she's looking at, three month window, she says, I want to come live with you guys. 00:46:21:00 - 00:46:41:29 Unknown And we turn our home office into a hospice. And now we're hosting her in the home. And all the efforts over the years for my wife to reconcile their relationship have come to a head. And the moment comes when she takes her last breath in my lap. And in her 50s, before that moment came, we asked her, what do you want? 00:46:42:01 - 00:46:54:22 Unknown Because most times we make the mistake of saying, oh, I'm going to pray for healing right now. But what if that person doesn't want to be healed? I'm at a lady who lost her husband, and I saw her after a couple of months, and I ask her how she's doing. She says, I'm ready to go home. I'm like, what do you mean? 00:46:54:25 - 00:47:12:06 Unknown She was like, I'm ready. I'm ready to pass. She's like, I just got diagnosed with breast cancer. And I say, can I pray for you? And she's like under one condition. Or like, was that she was like that. You do not pray for healing. Talk about blowing up your theology. She's like, I'm ready, I'm done. I'm tired. And I said, well, okay. 00:47:12:08 - 00:47:39:01 Unknown And I just prayed that God would take her in his time. And a week later she passed. She was in her 30s. So going back to my mother, love, this moment comes when I ask her, what do you want? And she said, I am not done yet. I want to fight. So what was she fighting for? She was fighting to reconcile the relationship with my wife, her daughter. 00:47:39:03 - 00:47:58:15 Unknown She was fighting because she was working on her doctor degree. After dropping out of high school, getting her college degree after she got her bachelor's, and then, getting her her, high school diploma as well. And now realizing that there was more to live for, she says, I'm not done. And she grabs me by my shirt. She pulls me in like I want to live. 00:47:58:17 - 00:48:19:12 Unknown I can see in her eyes, man. I felt it in her spirit. And then when she took that last breath, I was like, it's over. You don't get a second chance now, and I want to leave this start with you. Because after they they took her to the funeral home and my wife and I had to handle her affairs the next day I asked Bob, the funeral director. 00:48:19:12 - 00:48:35:11 Unknown I said, hey, Bob, tell me what we need to do. And he was like, well, I've been doing this for 40 years and I'm sorry about your loss, but I see this every single day. And I was like, man, that's a long time. How'd you get into this? He says, my dad did it for 40 years, and he taught me the business. 00:48:35:13 - 00:48:48:09 Unknown And I said, well, how'd your dad get in the business? He said his dad taught him the business. I said, if I said, how long is that? He said, 40 years. I said, if my math is correct, that's 120 years. He said, yep, you got it. And I said, in 120 years of experience in your family, in this business, you've learned a lot. 00:48:48:09 - 00:48:59:13 Unknown Tell me one thing that I can take away, he says, oh, that's simple, Mondo. You don't have as much time as you think. 00:48:59:15 - 00:49:12:22 Unknown People come in here every day with all their plans, vacations, the things they want to do. And they were not willing to get comfortable being uncomfortable. And they missed the window. 00:49:12:25 - 00:49:27:11 Unknown You don't have as much time as you think. So live life. And that means life invested for eternity. That's why you're here.