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Smile Science: Inside the World of the Dentistry Business with Dr. Richard Racanelli

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How did a young boy’s experience with orthodontics inspire a journey that would eventually lead to running one of Las Vegas's premier dental practices? Join us as we sit down with Dr. Richard Racanelli , owner of Stunning Smiles of Las Vegas, to uncover the personal stories and professional experiences that have shaped his career. Dr. Racanelli shares the pivotal moments—from his mentorship in New York to the challenges of establishing and taking over practices—that have led him to provide exceptional dental care in a state-of-the-art environment.

Managing dental insurance can be a labyrinth, but Dr. Racanelli is here to demystify it. We discuss the distinctions between dental and medical insurance, the obstacles in handling accounts, and how he navigates these complexities without compromising patient care. He also introduces us to groundbreaking dental technologies, from lasers to 3D scans, and offers his perspective on alternative business models for uninsured patients. If you're intrigued by the intersection of healthcare and cutting-edge technology, this episode is a treasure trove of insights and inspiration for current and aspiring dental professionals alike.

Paki:

Welcome to Vegas Circle Podcast with your hosts, paki and Chris. We are people who are passionate about business, success and culture, and this is our platform to showcase to people in our city who make it happen. On today's podcast, we're going to be jumping in to the importance of oral health and the behind the scenes of dentistry, and also what it takes to run a successful practice. Welcoming our guest to the circle owner of Stunning Smiles of Las Vegas. We've got Dr Racanelli man man, so my doctor actually. So put him out there. Thank you, paki, thank you Chris.

Dr. Racanelli:

Happy to be here.

Paki:

Yeah, man. So we want to just kind of jump right in. I know you're originally from the East Coast, new York City area. I've been a patient of yours since you know, since I've been in Vegas, but really have enjoyed your service and really just how you ran your business and customer service and the infrastructure of everything you've been able to do. But what inspired you to jump into dentistry?

Dr. Racanelli:

Oh man, dentistry I decided when I was in high school. Actually, I got influenced by my orthodontist when I was in braces. I kind of wanted to be an architect when I was a kid. But then I got influenced in science and medicine and going through the transformation of braces really influenced me and that's kind of how I got the bug and decided from there Good stuff.

Chris:

Kind of a hard thing. You know you're, you started going into there and it's it seems like a pretty intrusive process to think that experience was good enough to make you want to go and do it.

Dr. Racanelli:

It was impressive, Impressive. Yeah, exactly my wife Janice. I would consider him a mentor for sure, and he influenced me tremendously.

Paki:

In New York, in New York, yeah, okay, so then you actually bought into a practice, right?

Dr. Racanelli:

So really funny. I mean, you were in the practice before me, yes, so 2024 is actually my 12th year in the practice, took over in January of 13 and got to inherit some amazing patients like you guys. Yes, I remember Awesome, Bought it from the previous owner and have taken it and molded it and grown it in more what I wanted to kind of achieve over the years.

Paki:

So I mean, that's really what I wanted to talk about is, like, you know, chris, and I we have, you know, different people. We haven't had anybody on in the dentistry space.

Dr. Racanelli:

That's super cool.

Paki:

And what's interesting is, like eight to five or nine to five or nine to six, you're a dentist right After straight businessman. I mean, there's so many hats you got to wear from marketing payroll. You know, chris, we talk a lot about like SOPs. You know the standing operating procedures that you have to put together. There's so many things behind the scenes that people don't know. You know that a dentist has to do of wearing that hat. Can you kind of share you know some of the things that you kind of put to place and what you have to experience? You kind of behind the eight to five you know, absolutely, it's so true.

Dr. Racanelli:

You you definitely wear a lot of different hats as a dentist, yeah, you know healthcare provider, but also a small business owner and doing all the different things. But as far as the practice, I've really focused on, you know, elevating the quality of the care and customizing it and really trying to give people a way to get healthy as opposed to just put out fires and fix problems. That's what we've really focused on and brought in more comprehensive stuff, more cosmetic dentistry, things that patient people want and hopefully evolving as health gets better, especially since the last couple of years.

Chris:

Do you think buying into that practice helps alleviate some of that burden, since you kind of had that pre-established customer base? You already have some of the implemented procedures in place for the business operating part of it. Do you think that really played a big factor in it?

Dr. Racanelli:

Definitely. I mean, there's a learn-on-the-fly component. When you're young, come out of school regardless, but having something stable in place was huge. I actually started from scratch in New York and I didn't want to do it again.

Chris:

For sure, this is your second time being in a practice.

Paki:

What do you see has been like the difference? It's got to be night and day different.

Dr. Racanelli:

In terms of start yeah.

Dr. Racanelli:

From New York City compared to Las Vegas Super different in a good way. Okay, I love it. It's been amazing. Yeah, I think in general, patients have gotten more focused on being healthy, but we really have a great desire for it to look good here too, which is nice, yes, so those things go hand in hand, for sure, and a lot of our patients are really into that, and I'm luckily able to evolve my skills and be able to provide some really high level service for that that's good stuff, yeah, and you've expanded, I mean redevelopment.

Paki:

You've done a lot.

Dr. Racanelli:

Yes, sir, you've seen it firsthand, your practice.

Paki:

Yeah, it's amazing yeah.

Dr. Racanelli:

So what's your square footage? Like treatment rooms? Yeah, and so me, myself and another dentist now, um, and I'm focused on larger, comprehensive, reconstructive type dentistry. She does more general dentistry, okay, and you've seen it. I mean it. We're intentional about looking different, feeling different, smelling different, not being what maybe we think about a dental practice from when we were kids. Yeah, we need to evolve and that's what I'm really focused on you could tell when you first walk in.

Paki:

I mean it's very state-of-the-art, very modern, mean it's very, very, very sharp. I'm not just saying that just because you're here, but it's very sharp. Thanks for that.

Chris:

I really appreciate it and as you kind of do develop and expand right. You know, it seems like the one thing I always try to understand better about dentistry is that or even being a doctor for that example is, or a medical doctor is a little bit your ability to grow is kind of limited right, because you can only handle so many patients and you only have so much time to be able to do it. You know, how do you kind of foresee that growth and development in that part of it? It's a good problem to have.

Dr. Racanelli:

Yeah, very true.

Chris:

Do people hit that frequently or is it always, you know, kind of a revolving door of patients?

Dr. Racanelli:

It's a great question. You want to really try to retain as many of the core patients as possible while bringing in new people for whatever services you're providing, and so it's a it's definitely a balance.

Paki:

I want to kind of change a little bit about like health, right, so like heart disease, obviously it's like one of the number one leading causes of deaths, obviously in the U S. But you know I was doing some researching. Obviously, you know, with the, you know the piece of oral, it's all related, right, because this is everything, everything comes through the mouth. Can you kind of share your perspective of you know, maybe the preventative side of it, of you got to keep this clean because of the bacteria? I mean there's so many layers to it. I mean I know you know better than I do, but can you kind of share your perspective on that?

Dr. Racanelli:

Absolutely Great, great question. Bottom line healthy mouth is a step toward a healthy body. Yep, oral systemic link is a real thing. Periodontal disease, or gum disease, is the leading cause of tooth loss. Somewhere between a half to two-thirds of Americans have some form of periodontal disease and most people don't really have any idea. And there's massive links to systemic health, namely, like you said, heart problems and diabetes Basically inflammatory disease, related to the way I look at it, it's like risk factors, so like if you have gum disease and you have heart disease and you have diabetes, those linked together one in one one is like nine. So if you, it's not to say that if you clean your teeth and you're going to have any medical problems, but it's a way to reduce risk over time. So people need to be really, really focused, which I think in general has gotten better since COVID. People are more focused on health, but the mouth's a massive part of it.

Paki:

It really, really is. I'm always telling my kids because everybody's always putting their hand in the mouth and doing all types of stuff and you don't realize. I mean, your hands are dirty all the time, you know, so it's really scary to be able to think about how bacteria can form so fast yeah.

Dr. Racanelli:

One of the things we started doing actually implementing right now is testing patients saliva to figure out the profile of the bacteria and gives an idea of risk for gum disease and actually how to treat it beyond the ways that we were taught conventionally.

Chris:

So that's, pretty cool.

Dr. Racanelli:

Bring it into the practice as we speak, actually.

Chris:

Okay, because it seems like most people that I talked to have very similar like regimens when it comes to mouth care Right, and the same things I did when I was a kid I'm doing now at almost 40. Exactly, you don't really change, like most people haven't changed in 20, 30, 40 years, on how they maintain their mouth.

Dr. Racanelli:

You're right, and it and it should have changed a little bit. Yeah, you would think An electric toothbrush like a non-negotiable as far as I'm concerned, flossing at night, you know, coming in regularly like Pocky's a great example. He's like clockwork with his hygiene. He comes in like like I know you're going to be there every six months. If we said, hey, you need an extra cleaning, you would likely do it as a way to get healthy. You also align your teeth, put them in a proper position doing all the right stuff Like 10 years ago yeah sure.

Dr. Racanelli:

And you did an amazing job with it. Yeah, so there's little things that we can do and tweak over time to really keep things healthy. My goal is for people to get healthy, stay healthy and minimize time and energy and money in the dental chair.

Chris:

One thing you're seeing too is a lot of people now are going with the veneers right and taking this out. Does that reset your clock in a way, or is it like how does, yeah, how does I do a lot of it and I?

Dr. Racanelli:

love doing it. It's like buying an expensive car you're going to maintain it. So just because you have veneers, you still need to do home care, come in regularly, see the hygienist, maybe even do an extra hygiene visit, like I really stress this when I'm planning this stuff for patients, yeah, yeah, but veneers are amazing, but you, you have to. You have to kind of maintain the investment. Got it okay is v Is veneers considered implants.

Paki:

Not at all Something different. It's completely separate, right, absolutely, because I was reading about like implants. It's like, literally, it's like I think 6% of Americans have implants or are dealing with implants, and now it's like growing, I think, to like 23% over the next couple of years.

Dr. Racanelli:

Yes, unreal. The percentage of people with missing teeth is crazy when you actually start thinking about it.

Paki:

See, I was thinking because veneers you're still installing it in, but implants is completely separate.

Dr. Racanelli:

So veneer, you know, a thin shell of porcelain to change color, change shape, improve a bite, make a smile look different. Got it, you know, aesthetic and functional changes. Implant is a way to replace a missing tooth or missing teeth Completely.

Paki:

God, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's the difference.

Chris:

I get that question all the time. Do you see people like, just do 100% implants, or is it really only when you're missing one? Yeah, you want to be missing as little as possible.

Dr. Racanelli:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but there are people who have nothing and need to get full implants with kind of dentures and bridges built on implants, and that's something that we can also do no-transcript.

Paki:

But like the black toothpaste and all the stuff that you're seeing is popular, the charcoal the charcoal, I'm sorry, it's a little abrasive. What do you think? I mean? What's your perspective? Is that healthy?

Dr. Racanelli:

I don.

Paki:

Just whitening. Yeah, I mean, I've been using other stuff. I just wanted to try something different because I've heard the good things about it, but I wasn't sure.

Dr. Racanelli:

Yes, it's definitely a marketing thing that we see a lot out there.

Paki:

That's what I figured.

Dr. Racanelli:

Charcoal can really be abrasive. It can do some damage to the enamel, okay.

Chris:

Way better off just doing some whitening. Either in your retainers, have your more institutional toothpaste or, and then you see, now it's a big push for all these organic, you know, natural toothpaste. Is there any benefits to one or the other? Come all natural and even using the, the colgates and stuff, it just doesn't feel great anymore because I've been using the natural for so long.

Dr. Racanelli:

Got it great I'm not a fan of colgate. Um, I feel like it's got a weird taste.

Chris:

Personally, yeah, same.

Dr. Racanelli:

I like Crest better. Arm Hammer's good too. Tom's like people who are leery about fluoride. Fluoride kind of gets a bad rap but it really is good. It's a good vitamin for the teeth. If you ingested it it wouldn't be good and people worry about third eye stuff with fluoride. Yeah, for real, but in general, if you're at all prone to cavities, fluoride is a really good thing to have in your regimen.

Chris:

I use Burt's Bees. Is that any good Burt's Bees? Is super good.

Paki:

I'm messed up. I wanted to try this charcoal, but I'm glad you said that I think the question.

Dr. Racanelli:

People ask about toothpaste all the time. The more important thing is floss at night. Brush twice a day, see the hygienist two to three times a year. Put all that together consistently over time. It doesn't really matter what kind of toothpaste you use as much. That's, honestly, my answer.

Paki:

That's the key I think to everything is just consistency. I mean we were talking earlier, you know, before Mr Cartwright had left out, but it's like you know, chris and I started this and my wife back in 2018, right, and consistency, I think has been the savior. I think has been the savior. I think to anything. Your practice, I mean working out, I mean everything that we do is just consistency. So, yeah, I mean it makes sense to have the health. Your consistency.

Dr. Racanelli:

Yeah, do the right stuff over time, do it regularly.

Paki:

Let's talk a little bit about insurance, right, oh man. So I know insurance has got to be tough, right? What do you guys have in place? Because I feel like I mean, I don't know the ins and outs of it, but like accounts payable obviously got to be a pain in the butt. You're filing claims. You might have insurance companies where they get the claim okay, I didn't receive it, or whatever the scenario is but what have you guys kind of put in place so you're not chasing your tail a lot to be able to get paid for the service and things along those lines, yeah.

Chris:

Or is it getting easier? I guess. Yeah, I heard that too Sure.

Dr. Racanelli:

People often think that dental insurance and medical insurance are the same thing, and they're really not. It's completely different, Completely separate, right? Yeah, that's what I heard. Dental insurance is like a coupon, basically right. It's just a reduced rate that you pay. The insurance companies basically want to take in premiums and just not pay out stuff.

Dr. Racanelli:

they make you wait. We have to jump through a lot of hoops, I bet, to try to get have you know, accounts receivable and payable, kind of happening, sure, so it's just part of the name of the game. The more importantly it's that we don't let the insurance dictate the type, the type of treatment that we plan and provide for our patients. Yeah, we use it as like an adjunct, so we take it, we work with it, we try not to be beholden to, you know, two clean, two cleanings a year. If someone needs periodontal treatment and need more than two cleanings like they're going to get it Find a way to make it happen for them, because you know, if we can see patients regularly we can keep them healthy and actually minimize time and money in the dental chair over time. And that's kind of my goal Get our patients healthy.

Paki:

Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, help as well, for sure.

Chris:

Yeah, and what kind of issues are you seeing? Like you know, I've seen a lot of dentists only accept certain insurances, certain types of insurances. What is the reasoning behind that? Like usually that you see that running come up.

Dr. Racanelli:

Numbers game. I mean they make it really hard. You have to do so much volume when you take all kinds of insurances to actually make money to run the business, and quality of care gets lost in the shuffle. So we're the total opposite. We're more time with our patients, customized care and really being able to spend the time to give them what they need, and insurance doesn't always pay for that, unfortunately.

Chris:

So you'll find, like insurance, that you know are willing to work with you or that they're looking out for your client, and then you partner up with them instead of accepting somebody, maybe paying, you know, a really limited amount that's going to reduce services.

Dr. Racanelli:

Exactly, I mean, I want to be their partner, but we work with them. I think we're the patient's partner and then the insurance company is the third party. A lot of times the patients think that the insurance company is their friend, and it's the total opposite. They just want to make money. If you look at what dental insurance company CEOs make $12 million, $15 million a year I mean it's crazy what these guys are getting paid Like. What are they actually doing?

Paki:

Man, I'm all the time.

Dr. Racanelli:

Like they want to just take in the premiums and try not to pay out. Yeah, that's their model. That's amazing so we're fighting it every day to help people and it's like a perception thing and it's also compared to that's it. The dental is different.

Paki:

So let me ask you this so like turnaround time, is it like 90 days, is it like 100 to 20 days? It can get rough, it can be you try to minimize it. Yeah, yeah, good stuff, okay.

Chris:

Is there any alternative business models that you're seeing become more prevalent amongst other dentists that are subscription-based models, other type of opportunities?

Dr. Racanelli:

Yeah, I mean, I think we have a membership plan for patients who don't have benefits as an alternative. Yes, and they can subscribe to us and we have a couple of doctors.

Paki:

We're talking about that, yeah.

Dr. Racanelli:

That's been a great thing, a good like alternative, um, and in general, just really educating patients on what it costs to actually do what they need to do and be healthy longterm For sure.

Paki:

Yeah to do and be healthy long term For sure. Yeah, yeah. What do you see? What happened with technology? Cause you always having the newest stuff. I know you always have seminars and things like that. I know it's gotta be expensive too to invest in a lot of this technology, but what are you seeing and what do you? What have you kind of special at Stunning Smiles that maybe another practice doesn't have?

Dr. Racanelli:

Yeah, technology and dentistry going hand in hand at this point. We a lot of interesting stuff. Yeah, lasers to treat periodontal disease. Uh, in office machine it's called cad cam, basically a way to make metal free crowns or bridges in the office.

Dr. Racanelli:

One visit which used to be an oppression in a lab and a second visit and getting numb again doing all this stuff. Now we can do it in one visit using the technology, so I can design and make stuff in the office, which has been an awesome game changer last probably about last 10 years for that, wow, um, ct scans like cone beam, which is basically a 3d x-ray to plan for implants, a look at sinuses, wisdom teeth, stuff like that. Um, digital x-rays we've always had those, but that's that's, you know, one of the first things that came out with technology. Sure, um, and now and then also scanning. So a lot of the stuff that we used to take impressions for we actually use 3d scans now.

Paki:

So there's no. That's how you guys do. Everybody hates the word goop, right? So?

Dr. Racanelli:

we've eliminated that and it's going even more so with ai too. Yeah, being able to help diagnose and look at, look at the x-rays with the help of ai, that's something that's coming along, yeah yeah, like I could say that from like you'll be sitting in the chair and they're talking to the AI and it's recording everything while you're in the chair.

Paki:

It's the coolest thing in the world. You guys have got that and it's amazing.

Dr. Racanelli:

It's really the technology is. It's not a substitute for, you know, care and relationships and rapport, but it really does help us be more efficient and, I think, deliver better product, better service for our patients. Yeah, that's no joke, that's interesting.

Paki:

Just backing up a little bit, just more of a personal question too. Dental floss versus water picking right, I was going to bring that one up.

Chris:

Okay, good, you're the same line, we're aligned. Right now that's my brother, so we're aligned. That's hilarious.

Paki:

So I'd have a water pick. Are you still supposed to floss afterwards, or what like? No, I mean if you're overdoing it, basically is what I'm getting at.

Dr. Racanelli:

No harm to overdoing it, but if you can actually floss every night, you're good, like that's what I do personally, okay I don't use a water.

Paki:

That's why I'm getting that. I want to know what you're doing. Yeah, okay water pick.

Dr. Racanelli:

I recommend it all the time and I think it's kind of like plan b. If someone's like you know what, I'm not going to floss consistently, I have trouble doing it, I don't love doing it. Then I'm like get out the water, pick and flush, because you can't get in between the teeth with the toothbrush. That's the idea, right. You need something to go in there. Get the plaque out so you don't get cavities, so your gums don't get inflamed. Got it bottom line, got it. So it's better than doing nothing.

Dr. Racanelli:

It's way better than for sure, and if you have a lot of dentistry like crowns or bridges, sometimes the water pick is a really good thing to have in the regiment, for sure yeah, awesome man.

Paki:

Yeah, good to know. Um, with us being parents, right, all of us parents at the table. You know, internships were big for me right back in the day, like we talked about it before, I went, did an internship at tufts medical for a while and it was a great experience just to kind of learn the medical side of everything and then and then also realizing, okay, this may be not for me, right? Um, what do you think like the future of dentistry, you know, for for kids, right? Is it maybe going to internship route? Maybe can they go work at a Stunning Smiles or could they? Or do they have to go to UNLV and maybe, you know, learn a program before they get to college to spend the capital?

Dr. Racanelli:

Anybody who's interested in any field for me for that matter, but dentistry specifically. The sooner you get some exposure, the better off you are. So if you could do an internship, a volunteer, in an office, I think it's a great plan. I actually didn't do anything like that, I just kind of rolled the dice and went with it. Luckily it worked out. So I had no experience being in an office other than being a patient until I got into dental school. But I would really recommend someone in high school or early college to ask their dentist like hey, can I come shadow, can I come observe? I want to see what it's like in the real world and know if it's worth, you know, going down this road because it's it's a commitment.

Chris:

Yeah, cause that's, you know, schooling on top of it and building like it takes a long time for you to really hit your rhythm. So it'd be tough to be figured out five years into it.

Paki:

Exactly what I saw. I remember. I remember when I was a, when I was a tough medical when I was in high school. I remember I will never forget this lady I want to say her last name, but her first name was Alicia and I remember her and her husband. Both were in medical school. Basically, their last year owed like 300 grand back then both of them, so they're like $600,000.

Chris:

And they hated what they were doing before I'm getting out.

Paki:

And I'm like there's no way I would want to do it.

Dr. Racanelli:

That's extremely brutal. Yes, yeah, extremely brutal. Yeah. So earlier information, better you know. Suss it out, make sure it's for you Because you have to love it to really, I think, to do well and make it a long career that you're happy in.

Paki:

Yeah, sure, yeah, I'm always talking to 100%. So you know, with us being a circle, right, I know you mentioned a little bit about you know when you first got to your first practice in New York, but who's been in your circle and what advice have they given you? You know over the years has been beneficial.

Dr. Racanelli:

I mean that's a really good question. I've recently expanded my circle a lot in Las Vegas. I got into a networking group called BNI Business Network International. It's been awesome and I met a lot of interesting people who run different businesses, so that's been a really good expansion of people that I could talk to and learn about.

Dr. Racanelli:

Prior to that, it was really just people in dentistry that I would network with and try to learn from, and you know, some emulate like what the people who are really at the top of the game were doing, so I could bring it into my practice. Good stuff.

Chris:

Yeah, and you see it like you know, this seems to me like there's a dental office in every corner, right? There certainly is. There's a ton of them. So it seems like there's a great network of dentists in the Valley. But you know, when it comes to like a competition standpoint is there. Obviously I don't think more people should go to the dentist if they're not. But do you think there's enough dentists for the population, or the population is?

Dr. Racanelli:

That's a great question. I don't have any stats. It seems like it's like you said, it's very saturated, but the truth is there's a lot of levels. There's definitely a stratification of of what's going on in dentistry and you can go to like abc dental that's like you know volume where you see a different doctor every time you wait for three hours.

Dr. Racanelli:

Or you can come to my office where you're getting me with my expertise and my training and you know I'm doing a reconstruction on someone that's like buying a car. So there's a massive gap in scale and it really is based on what's, I guess, money, but also what people want. There's always going to be the cream rises to the top, so to speak, and there's always a lowest common denominator. And you see that I think in dentistry, quite vividly.

Chris:

Yeah, I think you're right. I think I never thought about it in that way, but you could definitely see it and is it like there's like a significant number of the population that just doesn't go to the dentist, like 30, 40, 50. You know I should have looked at that I don't know.

Paki:

Yes, the answer is yes, geez it should be a lot lower, like people should go yeah, yeah, for business advice right, because you're you're a business owner, right, running your setup. What's a nugget that you would share for somebody? Maybe they want to start their own dentistry practice, or maybe they have another vision, something that they want to launch. What would you share with them or what would be some advice for them that's been a benefit for you?

Dr. Racanelli:

Besides your field of specificity, whether it's medicine or dentistry, learn as much as possible about business, marketing, management, people skills, communication. I mean dentistry is really a people business, more than a tooth business, and being able to just like build rapport and understand and ask questions and have like really good conversations has, I think, helped me do well in dentistry more so that my hands are also really good. But it's really about can you talk to someone, can you interview them, can you find out what they want, what's important to them in any business, not just dentistry.

Paki:

Yeah, and I gotta I gotta tell you that, just from my own experience, you've done an excellent job with that. I gotta tell you to your face that you know that you've done that to have the bedside manners and be able to be professional and be able to build those relationships. You guys have done an excellent job there.

Dr. Racanelli:

Thanks a lot, puck, you and your wife. It means a lot, it really does.

Paki:

Good stuff Got to switch a little bit because I know we see each other at restaurants all the time.

Dr. Racanelli:

Oh yeah, absolutely One of my favorite things.

Paki:

Yeah, gave me some recommendations, but we always ask our guests you know what's your favorite?

Dr. Racanelli:

or you and I love going out to eat. It's one of my things that I enjoy the most. Yeah, yeah, um, uh, italian and sushi, kind of my, and some, you know, thai also. Yep, um, just discovered a really great sushi place called Kase sushi and sake. Okay, on, russell and Jones, okay, going there, it's awesome, okay. Um note that Farrell's is great. They're friends of mine. We love them. Yeah, they're awesome. Farrell's is very good.

Paki:

I go there a lot and Amari actually in Uncommons I like that place a lot. Oh yeah, amari's very good. Yeah, tiny restaurant, tiny place Exactly Good stuff. Become like a neighborhood place in the Uncommons. Yeah, go there.

Dr. Racanelli:

Which one Setebello for pizza.

Chris:

Oh Setebello.

Dr. Racanelli:

Yeah, okay, I'm there all the time. Oh, we're aligned. Yeah, we're definitely aligned.

Chris:

Okay, I'm always looking for good pizza, so definitely check that out. Yeah, definitely check that out. And he knows we're from New York, man, yeah.

Paki:

That's a hot button for you guys, but we're lucky. We have a lot of great years and moved from um, originally from midwest, but I lived in the east coast. But I tell you like vegas is really becoming this hub of you know food, you know art, you know I'll share some stuff offline that we can talk about, but they're doing some amazing things.

Dr. Racanelli:

Enhancements, I mean it's amazing how it's changed the last oh yeah about the last five, seven years, for sure, just look at where my office is, I mean 100, the ben uncommons ikea lifetime going up. I mean just what's going on in that immediate area of the Southwest it's awesome.

Paki:

They've said that that loop is like probably the most popular area in Vegas as far as real estate yes, land and that whole area.

Chris:

Oh yeah, everything that's been a big impact of Vegas construction has really taken place in that area, exactly yeah.

Paki:

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Dr. Racanelli:

okay and awesome. The office is, uh, lv, stunning smilesmilescom Right.

Paki:

Appreciate it. This guy's great. I'm just going to tell you that straight up, man. Great, great practice. They do it right. So I wanted to have you come on and appreciate hanging out with us and check us out at thevegancirclecom. So appreciate your time, man.

Dr. Racanelli:

Thank you so much I appreciate it.

Paki:

Good to see you, thank you, you Bye.