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Crafting Stars: G6’s Blueprint for Success in Music & Media

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Join us for an exciting conversation with G6, the visionary behind Money Train Management, as he shares his unique perspective on balancing music, business, and the demands of fatherhood. Discover how G6 navigates the vibrant yet challenging Las Vegas creative scene, working alongside talents like Mazi and filmmaker Janae Gamble. G6 also opens up about his personal endeavors, including sitcoms and commercials, and the unyielding support he offers his son, an emerging basketball talent.

Las Vegas artists are striving for a spotlight on the global stage, yet face the challenge of being overshadowed by the city's gambling reputation. We explore the dynamics of this struggle, comparing Las Vegas to music giants like New York and Los Angeles, and acknowledge the pivotal role of residencies in shaping the city's cultural identity. The conversation further delves into the broader concepts of greatness, opportunity, and how lineage impacts success, from music to sports and beyond.

The realm of podcasting and branding is evolving rapidly, and we examine the stark differences in visibility and funding between independent creators and those backed by major networks. G6 shares insights on the importance of branding in today's digital era, highlighting stories of figures like Joe Rogan and Joe Budden. As the discussion unfolds, we underscore the necessity of confidence, discipline, and a strong vision for creators and entrepreneurs, while celebrating achievements and looking ahead to exciting future projects.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Vegas Circle Podcast with your hosts, paki and Chris. We are people who are passionate about business, success and culture, and this is our platform to showcase people in our city who make it happen. On today's podcast, we're going to be delving into a founder's insight into the current state of music finding talent, balance and business and fatherhood. Welcome back to the circle, man, our good guy man, founder of Money Train Management, G6.

Speaker 3:

Good to see you again, brother.

Speaker 1:

It's always good to see y'all man, it's always good to see you guys. So we stayed in contact nonstop, the last probably. I think we had you on episode 85.

Speaker 3:

So it's about two and a half Two years man. You be saying three man, like don't be saying three man. I looked it up. I'm glad you said that. Right, let them know. It wasn't too long, but time flies, man. February 2022. Dang, that's a while ago. Yeah, two and a half. Time flies man what's keeping you focused here.

Speaker 3:

I'm excited about life. You know I love God, I love my son, I love my family. You know I'm excited about entrepreneurship. Always, like y'all know, that's my thing. You know, just putting other people in position and just enjoying life Like that's really what motivates me.

Speaker 2:

I love that. You know two years ago that seems like, like you said, it goes by quick, it goes by fast.

Speaker 3:

It really doesn't even feel like it. Y'all look the same I appreciate that, hopefully so. I mean, hey man, you know sometimes time goes by and you know people, you know they put on a little pounds you know stuff like that. So you guys still looking the same, you guys still looking good.

Speaker 2:

I appreciate that. Same to you.

Speaker 3:

At that time rhythm, you're really finding your groove. You know, what has that last like two years been like for you and your growth? Oh, man, it's been, uh, it's, it's definitely been adventurous, you know, because basically I've just seen, I've seen a lot of changes. I've seen a lot of changes in the vegas, the whole like landscape of vegas. A lot of people haven't, they're not here like you guys. Two years ago let's talk about that. You know, everybody hasn't been here, everybody hasn't been putting that work and being consistent. So I've noticed that, um, you know, music has changed as far as just every, every aspect. The film industry has changed. So all of the industries that I'm in and I've been influenced by and influenced by and I'm influencing, they're changing, some for the better, some for the worst, but, um, you know, I'm happy with everything I've been working on as well. Yeah, I'm glad'm glad you brought up consistency.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, man, let's talk about it. You know, let's talk about it.

Speaker 1:

Consistency, honestly, in everything. Yeah, you know, I think that's the number one, because if you're consistent, you never know what's going to happen. So I'm glad you brought that up, for sure.

Speaker 3:

Because consistency. I think the bottom line of that is discipline. You, you can be, you know you can be inspired, but without the discipline, because you're not always going to be motivated. A lot of people don't realize that. You know motivation. Everybody likes motivation, motivation, motivation, but everybody's not. You're not going to be motivated all the time. So discipline is what really makes everything happen. You know that's how you keep everything cohesive and you got to have a you know, a real, a real spiritual base. Or you believe in something. You know. If you know, if you don't believe in god, believe in something. You know, if you don't believe in God, believe in something, believe in yourself. But you know you got to be disciplined. That's what I live by.

Speaker 1:

I agree. I agree with you, True. So who's Money Train Management currently working with man and how are you finding current talent that you want to connect with?

Speaker 3:

I'm working with the same people that I've been working with. Okay, first a legend.

Speaker 2:

great, you know, mazi, that's my family yeah, appreciate you connecting us that's my family, so that's not that's just like that's bigger than business.

Speaker 3:

You know, that's family, okay, um, right now I'm working with well, I actually worked on um, a film by janae janae uh, was janae gamble, okay, and it's called the amazing janae um, nicole. Okay, it's a dope record. It's a dope film. I actually did the theme for it, the theme song for it, it Okay. So that's coming soon. I'm working with her. I've been working with a lot of people but more or less I've been kind of focusing on my situation. Like me, you know, as I told you, I've been working on a sitcom. I've been working on, just, you know, more commercials and you know, taking care of my son, making sure my son because he's been playing ball. So I'm kind of working on everything and you know my son's family. So that's money, training, management, you know.

Speaker 1:

That's what's up.

Speaker 3:

I got to focus on him and get him ready for the next level, because he's in high school now.

Speaker 1:

So I've been putting more focus into that. I heard literally top prospects in the state of California, but also just in the country period Right now he's definitely doing his thing.

Speaker 3:

You know, he's from West Coast, he leads, he plays for that AAU team and he goes to North Torrance, okay, and he's playing varsity right now. He's actually in practice right now. Okay, did you hoop before? Yeah, I hooped, I hooped yeah.

Speaker 1:

Did you play?

Speaker 3:

Did I was nice but I try to teach my son and you know when I was younger it was about you just think it can happen, like it wasn't about all of it. You know we used to just hoop, so you think you're good, I want to go to the NBA and I'm going to go to the NBA. You don't realize really what it takes. You know like the real work ethic Because I had raw talent. You know my son is a balance between raw talent and you know being coached and actually you know having training and being trained and you know I didn't have a father so he has me as well, so he has that insight.

Speaker 3:

So I didn't have that. So I was, I was raw talent, but you don't, really you don't realize what it takes and think about it. We needed, we need all types of things like um, we didn't have phones, you know, we didn't have cell phones where you can have a highlight tape. A highlight tape was extremely, extremely big. So it's like now they can create their own thing, they can create their own tapes.

Speaker 1:

Everything is highlight tape. Now, man Jesus, everything.

Speaker 3:

And they have YouTube channels and things like that. So I didn't have all of that. But it's just a mindset. I just was raw talent, I just wanted to play basketball and I was good. But you just just think it's going to happen. You don't realize the work you have to put into it. And you know we played outside all the time AAUs traveling teams, but now everybody's got a trainer, everybody's in AAUs. So in some parts of it it's kind of saturated. It kind of switches up the whole game plan because now everybody wants to do it.

Speaker 3:

It's kind of like the music mean, everything is saturated, the podcast game that becomes saturated. So you know I'm going to let you stay on course, but you know we can go in any direction.

Speaker 1:

I want to follow up with you on two things. I want to get into business, I want to get a little bit about podcasting, but how do you balance you? Know the personal and doing the whole nine. How do you balance? You know traveling and doing everything and keeping home, home and in the whole nine.

Speaker 3:

I just love to hear from your perspective, like I said, god and discipline, you know, because I mean that's the only way it can happen. You know everybody has their good days, everybody has their bad days, but you know you're moving closer to it. Yeah, and as you get there, you realize this is what I'm doing it for yeah, you know. So that's that's what the balance comes from. But you know god and god and discipline, you know I'm going to use, I'm just going to say the same, the same thing let's keep it simple, you know, because if you make it too complex that's where you kind of get off course.

Speaker 3:

I get it kind of go back to the saturation.

Speaker 2:

Right like you made a great point like everything I didn't really think about in the sports market, but yeah, it makes perfect sense because, you know, I didn't really realize that.

Speaker 2:

You know, a lot of these people have raw talent but to get it noticed and exactly, um, you know, to be able to move up into that next tier, you really do have to stand out. And and that's kind of what we're seeing as well with all these different, you know, entertainment venues, podcasts, music, movies, etc. With that everybody has accessibility and it's oversaturated. Is that? How important is the management of that person to really get them that exposure where they think?

Speaker 3:

well, why do I need it? For I could put it on YouTube Exactly. No, that's true. And the management of it is. The management keeps the discipline in the artist, in the basketball player, the football player, the athlete. Because people need to be told what to do, like that's just what it is, to stay on task, because they need to focus. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

I always tell my son right now, you know, I'm like you, living like a trust fund baby. You know what I'm saying. Like you living. At the end of the day, everything is taken care of. The same way it was for me. I didn't have a father, but I had a great mom, so I just got to enjoy being a kid. So I'm like you know you enjoy being a kid. But if this is what you want, you really got to want it. You know what I'm saying. You have to really. You know, like I asked, I saw Gilbert Arenas talking about his son and he was asking his son do you love the game? And he was like oh yeah, he, gilbert, turned. He was like you don't love the game, because when you love the game, you realize what you have to sacrifice for it. And if you know, he was like you know video games and you know he's got a girlfriend and stuff like that. What are you sacrificing for?

Speaker 3:

it so I thought about that, and I was like man that's, that's real, because it's almost like what do you actually sacrifice for stuff? And we all sacrifice for things that we love, right?

Speaker 1:

I agree.

Speaker 3:

It becomes a passion, or you?

Speaker 1:

move things around, or you move things around, yep, for what's important to you.

Speaker 3:

It's okay at different levels. Gilbert's son he's really good. Is he nice? Yeah, he's nice. Okay, we could talk about some other things. As far as the way that he put his son, he didn't want his son to go to Sierra Canyon for instance.

Speaker 1:

Oh okay, that's the Hollywood of basically, like I said, I'm going to keep it real with you guys.

Speaker 3:

So it's like if you talk about Bronny and Bryce and a lot of those kids that went to Sierra Canyon Gilbert, he made a great point. He just said I've never heard a college coach say how many championships have you won, it's all about how good you are. Like we college coach say how many championships have you won, it's all about how good you are. Like we got to keep, like let's just keep everything 100. They want to know. Are you putting up 30 or not? So everybody's wondering why brawny necessarily didn't do what everybody expected.

Speaker 3:

But let's just go to the stats. Let's not go to all of the hype, let's just go to the stats. He averaged like 12 points at sierra canyon because there's a pecking order. They're trying to win championships. Those are stacked. So he doesn't realize what it's like to be the guy. So what you end up noticing is it's a lot of role players that are going into the NBA, hence this draft. This would be the worst NBA draft that I've ever witnessed in my life, as far as talent-wise I mean, we didn't even know who the number one pick was going to be until it actually happened.

Speaker 2:

Has that ever happened At?

Speaker 3:

all. Yeah, we knew the whole year it would be number one pick, right, that's never happened.

Speaker 1:

That's a good point man.

Speaker 3:

When people are wondering why Bronny's not stepping up to the plate or why Bryce isn't stepping up to the plate, it's because they're playing with a whole bunch of other great players. So Gilbert wanted his son to understand be in those situations. I want you to be able to take the game-winning shot. I want you to be able to average 30. I want you to be able to miss that shot and understand. This is how it feels to miss that shot. How are you going to bounce back? So Bronny's never been in those situations. So when everybody's wondering why he's not, he's never been in those situations.

Speaker 1:

You have to be in those situations to understand that I don't know why he got into the Lakers. Well, yeah, we know that, but I'm just talking about, Just like all of us at this table. If I had the opportunity to put myself.

Speaker 3:

No, of course, no, no, no, no, you're hearing me.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying he's not supposed to get there, get there however, you're supposed to get there?

Speaker 3:

I follow what? Not that he's a past first person. He's not a scorer.

Speaker 3:

He was like that in high school he didn't get to really showcase that and in USC. Right, he wasn't really that nice at USC either right, right, okay, like I said, the heart situation, all those things are fine, I understand that. But if we're just talking about literally just being greatness and to me God is fair right, that's what they say is fair. Right, that's what they say, god is fair, I mean, when have we seen greatness really create greatness? You know kobe bryant's dad? I mean, he wasn't kobe. You know dale curry's, not steph. So god is fair.

Speaker 1:

you get michael jordan's you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

michael jordan's son exactly, so you know like god is fair.

Speaker 3:

so it's like that's what I want for my son. Like you know, he he's not going to any. I could put him into any school, I could have him be aligned with a whole bunch of great players, but he's not going to fully understand what it's like to put a team on your back. It's okay, you're in high school, go for 30, go for 40, do what you need to do so you can get there, because that's all these college kids care about. That's all the college coaches care about as well.

Speaker 1:

They don't really care about you winning a championship. It's about getting to the next level. How many numbers that's true.

Speaker 2:

It's all about the numbers in any field, right In the music industry in podcast industry, entertainment industry as a whole.

Speaker 1:

Let's jump back a little bit about artists right, like working with them. How do you feel about the state of music right, because it's going all over the place, in particular, vegas artists, right, like Mazzy I would consider him a Vegas artist, right, definitely.

Speaker 3:

International GT, mike Xavier, who you've had on Definitely and I saw all of those guys, great people, it's dope that you have a platform to introduce them to the world. I it's dope that you have a platform to introduce them to the world.

Speaker 3:

I look at you guys, no matter what. Just because it says Vegas, I see you guys in a global market, just because that's where we're trying to go. That's where we're trying to go. So anytime I can help, that's what I'm here for. But as far as Vegas artists, I'm going to say the same thing that I said on our last interview we still don't have anybody that's holding the torch. That's like the flag for vegas. When you think of vegas, as far as music, we need to think of somebody, and the fact that we can't think of somebody, that's a problem. That's not gonna carry everything. If you think of new york, you can name an artist right off the top. Whichever artist you want, la, you can name an artist, whether he's a new artist or not. You know the artist that you name outside of mozzie, because I wouldn't say mozzie's up and coming. He's been doing it for a while and he's he's getting major features. You know he just did the feature with jim jones, like we just talked about fire.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, a lot of a lot of vegas artists. They don't have that luxury. They might not have built those relationships as well. So, um, as far as vegas artists, I would just want them to actually man it's. It's tough man because you have to. Vegas is a. You have to like over, not overlook or overcome vegas. But vegas is such you just think about gambling like people don't even realize what this city fully has to offer. Yeah, so that kind of takes away from that. It's almost like you know, as far as music, yeah, you know, that's like somebody that could be in milwaukee or that could be in kentucky. Certain states and certain markets, you know, you think kentucky, I about, you know, like the college or something like that, if we're talking about sports, Milwaukee.

Speaker 3:

Okay, we could talk about the Bucs, but outside of that, what are we really talking?

Speaker 1:

about. You know, it's like Kentucky Derby or something.

Speaker 3:

Right, right, exactly, or I can't think of the.

Speaker 1:

What's the artist's name that did it with Drake and all that. I can't think of his name, the white artist.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, oh, jack Harlow. Jack Harlow, oh, he's from Kentucky.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's from Kentucky, but he's been talking about it and you hear a little subliminals and all of that Exactly.

Speaker 3:

But that's what they need. Perfect example, that's what Vegas needs. Somebody that's going to stand like literally represent Vegas. That's what you need.

Speaker 2:

Do you think it's more of like dance music?

Speaker 3:

At least you said it, Chris, so I don't have to say it.

Speaker 2:

So it's like, you know, I could see a really big, you know, dj coming out of Vegas right or a really big. You know, pop star maybe eventually, but like I feel, like hip hop, it seems like it'd be hard to really push somebody from.

Speaker 3:

Vegas into that scene. Yeah, it's extremely hard because, when it comes to Vegas, vegas actually did a good job when they had Dre's do what Dre's has been doing as far as having people have residencies.

Speaker 2:

That changed the game.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I agree, but we still need the up-and-coming artists. That's from Vegas and also. Vegas is such a hybrid. How many people are born in Vegas, grew up in Vegas and then?

Speaker 2:

they become the flagship artist for Vegas.

Speaker 3:

That's not y'all working against you. It's a lot of things working against you. For example, like Neo is from Vegas, but he left.

Speaker 1:

He left, yeah, and no one knew that. And I think he comes back every so often. Probably has a home or something. Well, I mean, he had a residency too, but he wasn't repping it.

Speaker 3:

You know he went and got signed, you know, to Jay, and he was in New York. That's what a lot of you know LA and New York, those are entertainment capitals of the world. So, when it comes to actually, you know, I think the biggest thing that will help Vegas as well is the infrastructure. So you know, for instance, you know, like congratulations on you guys actually moving, the last interview that we had was at a different place. Yep, this place is extremely high power, you know and you guys are working with high power people.

Speaker 3:

Yep, this would be what the film industry would need. I heard mark walberg was bringing something like that here as well yeah.

Speaker 3:

So you know, then that brings a lot of um actors and things of that nature. But there's no we, there's no interscope here. There's no def jam here. There's no Interscope here. There's no Def Jam here. There's no Empire. Empire is out in Frisco, in the Bay. So I think all of those really become what changes the whole atmosphere of how somebody can actually flourish in the city. Because you need the infrastructure that makes sense.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I think we are going to be that for the music industry, I mean the movie industry at least so really hopefully that ushers in somebody making that same decision from California that wants to move, like you said, like a music studio here that really impacts them?

Speaker 3:

No, definitely. And it's funny because when I think about, like actors, you know, think about the actors that we were coming up with, I mean, there were superstars. I was just having a conversation with somebody. It seems like now, like you know, my son watches all the classics, you know. So he knows, you know the Rush Hours, you know, he knows will smith and all that type of stuff.

Speaker 3:

But when you think about the new superstars, I feel like for some reason, they're not pushing a new, new superstars in music and in in film. Yeah, the same way that we had everybody from it, doesn't? It doesn't matter color creed, you know there's a for every tom hanks, for every tom cruise. Okay, we got a denzel. You know, we got a will smith. You know we got a martin, all that type of stuff, and it's in everything Comedy, all of these things. So, because now I guess these kids want to be streamers and TikTokers and things of that nature, but they don't push. So who's going to be the next superstar? Like right now, if I asked you, my son's 16. So, if I asked you, you know, and your kids are 10 and 8. Okay, so, so who would they be looking up to right now, because when I was 10 and 8, I could look up to Michael Jordan, I could look up to Will Smith.

Speaker 1:

I'm glad you're bringing this up. We're talking about language.

Speaker 2:

Some other people don't even know their names.

Speaker 3:

It's so interesting you're saying that I really think about these things, because my son is the next generation. Who's he going to be influenced by? You know, I mean, what a Michael B Jordan? That's the best that my son would have, like comparable to a Denzel or a Will Smith. With all due respect, he's not on that level.

Speaker 1:

So not even to cut you off. I'm so happy you're bringing this up, because I didn't know we were going to talk about this.

Speaker 3:

But I'm here, man.

Speaker 1:

I'm here.

Speaker 2:

One thing that I'll say is like when we first started Vegas Circle right, we were doing a whole bunch of X-rated crap. You know what I?

Speaker 1:

mean.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, not the early days. No, no, no, not all of it. We never put it out we never put it out?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because we had other folks we were working with, but we never put it out. Gotcha, gotcha. I'm glad you brought that up because of two things right, having the foundation of a Vegas circle we can show all the movers and shakers in Vegas per se. It does go international, right, definitely. But there's a lot of successful people that people wouldn't even know, billionaires here, multimillionaires here, that are really connected.

Speaker 1:

Right, but going back to what you were saying is I wanted my kids to be able to listen to that, right, so that we're not cutting out what they're listening to and be able to learn something from it. Same for Chris's girls, right, right, able to learn something from it. Same for chris's girls, right, right. But also, the other thing is like mr beast, you've got um. You know, ronaldo, you can't get away from messy if you're into soccer, you can't get away from lebron curry, you can't get a little. They look up to all of them, but you're 100, everybody's youtubers, yeah, and they're saying the names and I don't even know who the hell some of these guys are like I have no clue the one they saying to them on their own way out, though.

Speaker 2:

So, like what you're mentioning is like who's next? Like who's gonna take that next step? Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1:

So when it comes to film, did I stump you guys?

Speaker 3:

Can you give me somebody like right now in our kids' era that they can look up to in film, I mean even for music, like he used to be the Justin Bieber's, you know, like, okay, cool, like he, the Justin who is the superstar. So I don't. I don't know, I can't I can't really put my my finger on why that is.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if that's, I mean, everything is strategic, right. It's almost like they build them up real quick and then take them back and then try to to pump somebody else up and do the same thing. It's also control, yeah.

Speaker 3:

See, and that's the thing, it's a lot of agendas that are holding the superstar back. Because you know we come up in an era where you know the guy, who's the guy all of the women want and all the guys want to be like Sure, so who is that? Now, because not necessarily just because you know they might look up to streamers the Kai Sanats or the Mr Beast and stuff like that I don't necessarily think they look up to them. It's an algorithm that gets pushed at them. So there's an algorithm that's pushing that the eye show speeds and all that type of stuff. And then you have to deal with whatever backlash they're going through. Mr Beast, he was going through some backlash.

Speaker 3:

You know what I'm saying. So when things like that happen, kids that happen.

Speaker 1:

Kids don't understand what's going on so it's good, a good point you brought up like mark warburg, right, he was brought in as a consultant for years. He was trying to get the studio here, bring hollywood 2.0 here, but then he had to partner with a sony and howard hughes to make that really happen, and now it's going to happen. But we got to change that and us, us together.

Speaker 3:

We got to change that and that's what I was able to showcase people yeah yeah, no, that that's what I was trying to do, you know, like we were talking about last time. Yeah, is I wanted to bring everyone together. Like you know, I wanted to book you guys on different podcasts as well, because that's what I was doing. Every time I would go on a platform, yep, I would say people want to hear your guy's story as well. Sure, you know. So, like, that's what I want, and you know we were seeing it happen.

Speaker 2:

You know we were, we were seeing it with shots out to Jake and things like that.

Speaker 3:

But you know, everybody diversified and might have gotten into different things for whatever reason it is. But I mean Vegas takes a hit when people don't do that, because now we can't, we don't have the cohesiveness of everybody working on the same accord.

Speaker 3:

But these other states, you know LA, new york, chicago, miami, they're all, they're all doing that. You know, same thing with, like, miami, you know so, the whole, all these content creators, they're all going to miami now because that's you know. So, wherever the big podcast is, I mean even in la, I'm always back and forth in la. Yeah, can you tell me what the biggest podcast is in la? Well, it was joe rogan till he moved to austin. Yeah, feeling me, yeah, so so, besides that, what are we talking about?

Speaker 2:

so so, even so, even in a place like la.

Speaker 3:

What's the biggest podcast in new york? Some people might say joe button, but I just saw. I just saw the top, the top 10 podcast list and there's not one. It's definitely not any any black joe buttons creators. Joe button's not on there, but not not for top 10 because because they come with bigger budgets, so I'm not sure. Remember he turned down the Spotify.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you're right, Everything's independent.

Speaker 3:

So when you got, Joe Rogan and you got Caller Daddy and you got all of these other ones.

Speaker 2:

You got some big, big numbers on there and I believe she just diversified and got some $125 million deal.

Speaker 3:

So it Joe Button and all of them are not on that because you know they might be independent and you know how we can get into the independent conversation as well. But yeah, I think all of that affects everybody and as far as Vegas, to me Vegas takes a hit.

Speaker 2:

You don't have those internal networks right where you can plug and play, where you know Pocky goes and has a conversation because he's a great networker. He's in a room with somebody who's worth $100 million, like he's in a room with somebody who's worth $100 million, like I've got you Let me hook you up. But we don't have those environments here we can go and have those conversations.

Speaker 3:

And a lot of people don't. You know? I know a lot of investors and you know it's a blessing when they actually want to invest in certain things. But you know it's all about market share, it's all about business, you know, and you know like that's, but that's the number one.

Speaker 1:

I mean they say I think I can't remember the numbers I actually have written down on my phone, but I don't want to bore you guys. But I know I want to say it's like 80 of the podcast, they don't even make it past, like episode three. Yeah, yeah, yeah I heard that and I want to say like past, like 20 is like right, it's like none of them.

Speaker 3:

It's a small percentage. Yeah, they look at everything. They might hear these big numbers, that Joe Rogan's getting $100 million and things like that. But people don't understand Joe Rogan. He's been just in entertainment for years.

Speaker 2:

He had a huge following. He's a comedian.

Speaker 1:

I mean UFC has got a lot of stuff. He's been doing a whole bunch of things.

Speaker 3:

So people think it it's going to happen overnight. But you know, I don't know about the whole financial situation, but you guys still get credit for actually the upkeep of this, yeah, and to see you guys upgrade, so now you're in a better situation. Yeah, everything costs, everything that I'm looking at. All this stuff costs, you know, even if you have great relationships. So you know, like, you guys get credit for that and to me that's what's really missing actually putting the work and just being consistent on that. I agree, we need that. Like.

Speaker 3:

Without platforms like this, where do we go? You know where do artists go, where do creators go? And you know business. You guys definitely like, specify in, like business and dealing with a lot of entrepreneurs, but a lot of those entrepreneurs. It's dope to see them actually saying, well, forget the rappers and forget this. Now we want to tell our story and now we want people to see that. But once again, then, all of the people in film take a hit and the artists take a hit and they don't really see what it takes to get to that next level.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm seeing more than anything like podcasts and everything. Everybody's a brand.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

We're talking about LeBron and Bronny and everybody's their own brand and people. They're so involved in your life, like when we used to see Will Smith and all. You never saw Will Smith 20 years ago or 25 years ago. Now you can see him every day on Instagram and stuff.

Speaker 3:

That's true.

Speaker 1:

That's true. So the I don't want to say it's secret, but it was like secret life for a lot of these people. But now you're starting to see people want to build their own brand and that leads to more money influencer gigs, all of that stuff. So what are you starting to see now with other revenue streams right, because people traditionally would do music, concerts, things like that, influencer gigs, things like that what else are you seeing that's out on the market? Or any new stuff that's?

Speaker 3:

out on the market that people can well, I mean branding. Yeah, I mean, that's man. That's a multi-layered conversation sure it's the branding. I mean, when I first came out here I got with uh ml billion. That's who I was with and I helped him yes okay, his branding okay, you know, I was executive of lifestyle branding for him and that's what it's about. And we didn't even think I mean a lot of these words. We didn't even mention 20 years ago, people didn't say branding. All the time people didn't say even entrepreneur you

Speaker 3:

know, my mom she wasn't thinking about an entrepreneur sure everybody was traditional. So when you think about branding at this point, um, a lot of times it's hard for the artist to realize they are the brand, and then they have to create another brand or another sub brand. Yep, because they are the brand. So, um, what I'm noticing right now is um brand. I mean, obviously, branding is everything, but it's like, what do you want to represent? You know, because, like you guys are staying positive. Like you said, you could have went left.

Speaker 1:

We did, we just didn't put it out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, but you're right, luckily the wherewithal, like you said, to keep on our brand and who we wanted to be true to ourselves, right you?

Speaker 1:

know. So us, like we went left and had two other partners. That didn't work right, but me and him, both were like all right, man, we got to hold each other accountable. That's not us. You know what I'm saying. Like we know who we are. Like we got to represent who we are.

Speaker 3:

You know what I mean when you do things like this. It's all about influence. I agree.

Speaker 2:

It's all about influence.

Speaker 3:

So we all want to get money, you know. You know, hopefully everything gets money and gets to another level, but the influence is what everybody you know, cause that's what it's about, right now.

Speaker 3:

Everybody wants to have some sort of influence. Because influence, you know, it gives you some sort of power, it gives you the. You know, if I tell somebody, you know, go to Vegas circle, and they look and they see what you guys got popping they coming through. Yeah, they know, they know Number one, because you know my brand is representing like, okay, I'm speaking on it and then now this is your brand, you guys have been true to it, you haven't switched up. As long as you're consistent and you don't switch up, the branding of everything is going to be official. But as far as what I've learned and what I've seen, as far as like different streams of branding, I mean, streaming is obviously a big thing but it's just so multilayered it's kind of hard to see where streaming and all those things are going to go. Streaming could be like NFTs, you never know. That's a good point.

Speaker 3:

I'm actually shocked it hasn't already happened to be fair, but it's just because, from what I see, it's just the younger audience. Everybody's tapping into the younger audience, which was why I had the question of why we haven't gotten a younger superstar.

Speaker 1:

That's a great question. I don't think anybody's ever asked me that.

Speaker 3:

Because everybody's tapping into you know they're tapping into the younger audience.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, you know, I was just listening, speaking of not to stay on Bron, but Maverick Carter, right, he's got a great platform. Oh, yeah, yeah, and he was interviewing Tyler the creator. He had a great. You saw the interview.

Speaker 1:

I loved what he was saying yeah, he was basically saying, like you know, everybody wants to grab a bag, nobody wants to put the work in and they don't love the music, right, and everybody sounds the same, right, how are you like kind of piggyback on what Chris was talking about earlier? Asking about earlier is like how do you help manage these artists to be themselves and not just try to get the bag and everybody sounds exactly the damn same.

Speaker 3:

You know what I mean. You want to. You want to deal with somebody that's coming through with something original, and originality is a. It's a lost art form you know, basically what he was saying. You know everybody sounds like a carbon copy. You know, and it's you know, like even when we're talking about platforms. You know, I don't what you're going to get from this platform. You're not going to get from the next platform, because some of those people, some of those people, no problem.

Speaker 1:

Some of those people are actually indulging in some of the frivolous stuff that you guys might not have let go, we stay. We stay true to it, cause I think people feel the energy of people being fake and trying to do too much yeah.

Speaker 3:

But the thing is is people are, the minute people start monetizing off of all these things, they're just going to stick with it Because you know, I agree, you know the dollar is what everybody's working towards. But people that I work with, you know, like you know, even Mozzie, for instance, you know that's like, that's my people, that's my family. He's always been original, he's always been himself. He didn't, you know, he didn are doing something, trying to be like something. You guys met him. He's just true to who he is Super down to earth. He's true to who he is and he's in a niche market, the sports betting market. I don't know anybody that's our color that's doing that.

Speaker 3:

All of the famous sports bettors that I know they're not black.

Speaker 1:

I just thought of him. Yeah, you're right. You know what I'm saying. You want to be honest with me? Shout out to Mike. He's the only one that I know.

Speaker 3:

Honestly.

Speaker 1:

Just that in itself. Oh, I'm sorry Mike P, my bad, I got to give Mike P some love because he's doing it on a different level, but he's doing consulting. He's in consulting.

Speaker 3:

That's another brand of his space. I'm just saying just to let you know I'm familiar.

Speaker 1:

I got to give Mike P a shout out because he's doing it heavy. Shout out to him. Shout out to him.

Speaker 3:

But you know, like I said, it's just the level of somebody that's been doing it as long as mine's been doing it. I've never seen it. I've never seen. Okay, you're original, you're who you are and a lot of people they don't stay true the persona and who the person actually is. Sometimes it might be kind of far off. So now we've got to deal with the duality or deal with the dichotomy of these two people. So how do we merge this into a brand or just going to be two separate brands? It's kind of hard to do that.

Speaker 1:

It's just kind of hard. Everybody living in a glass house. Now, right, you can't fake it too hard.

Speaker 2:

It's hard to manage that, right. It doesn't last long either. So you do it. You make it a little bit for six months, right.

Speaker 3:

So I'm not going to try to manage that. As far as you know, I'm here to make your job easier. I'm not to take on and say, cause, like I told you a while ago, I want to, I want to build up artists, I want it. I want it to be a buildup, I don't want it to just be. You know we working for a little bit of time, or or or you're already at a certain level and then you know I do one or two things and more, because I want this to, I want to build your relationship.

Speaker 1:

And a lot of people do that.

Speaker 3:

That happens a lot in my industry.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, how do you feel like about, like, when people are putting out specific music? Right, you've been songwriting, producing, engineering, doing the whole nine, but and they song sucks. Do you tell them like?

Speaker 2:

yo, this is horrible. Do not put that out All the time.

Speaker 3:

How do they it? Yeah, uh, because people are real good, they get a little timid about their. It depends, it depends, um. But you know, I always want to be true to okay, because I'm not being, you know, like I told you, I see myself as like the black art gold. If, if you suck, if you so you gotta always gonna tell vince, you know, chris you're gonna tell he's gonna tell vince he ain't doing his thing.

Speaker 2:

You have to, yeah, so you got to tell them.

Speaker 3:

You want to be honest with them so you can try to get the best product out of it. Now, the flip side of that is a lot of stuff that's not that good is selling and doing extremely well. So then it's like, ok, cool, are we just doing this for a bag? Is this for a bag? Is this for a play? You know what are we doing, because if this is for I mean, is this a jingle? Are we doing this for a commercial? Is this product placement? You know so, dealing with, okay, if you just do something that is kind of not, it's not as good. But I know how we're going to use this. You know me saying, me saying that it's trash. That might not even matter. You know I'm still gonna say it, but you know I mean like I'm still gonna let you know what it is, but it's, it's always. Let's always understand what we're doing, what the goal is and where we're going.

Speaker 2:

That makes sense. A lot of times it could be on purpose right A lot of times it could be, like you know, funny or joke, or spoof.

Speaker 3:

Exactly, and those things work. You know, I understand all of that. I understand all of those things work. So it's just all about what are we trying to gain from this? You know? Yeah, no-transcript that man like right, right now, um, I just, I mean, I would really just say my mom, you know, family, you know, hey, my son can give me insight as well, you know you know he's at that age where I pour him to him and he can pour into me.

Speaker 3:

You know, I have, I have mentors, you know, like ml billion and things like that. So you know, but I don't need to look to too many different people so I can stay focused and have tunnel vision on what I need to do. That's what's up man and I always I always mozzie got the best quote because he was like don't listen to anybody as far as as long as you're doing what you're doing. So he's like don't listen to anybody.

Speaker 2:

I was thinking about it the other day when he said that yeah, oh man, that stuck with me for a second and he always says that You're like.

Speaker 3:

you know that's not the first time he said that, because you know, don't listen to, because a lot of times people now, if you're going to people and they're giving you great advice, no problem. I mean I can get insight from you guys. Sure, I can get like sometimes they can deter you from what's going on. So it's like when you're focused and you're locked in, you know I believe in God. So you know I'm a pray, I'm a listen to God. What he's given me you know I'm going to. If my mom gave me a little insight, I might ask her a question and stuff like that. But besides that, you want to be confident in what you're doing.

Speaker 3:

So the more confident that you are in your doing what you're.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I love that for sure. For business fights it's just gems. I know we asked you this before, but I want to stay in this lane of like what people need to do as far as consistency and working hard and who is the next person, like you were saying, who's the next person out?

Speaker 2:

there.

Speaker 3:

Hopefully, Maybe they're listening right now Hopefully our kids, man. Look, that's the reason why there ain't no superstars. All of our kids, they're they little geniuses. Man, I appreciate it. Man, I wish I could play the piano at that age. I was like man.

Speaker 1:

It's crazy because we just sidetracked from what's second grade, but my kids love classical music, which is wild to me.

Speaker 3:

I got into classical music when I was younger but I didn't realize what was going on. My mom had me on that because she always played classical music. She used to play it very, very low and she told me that it would always kind of play in your skin.

Speaker 2:

It would always be in your subconscious. So sometimes.

Speaker 3:

I'll walk in to her room and I'm like why do I hear it so and she's like oh, it's this playing. And she even told me not too long ago that she used to. While I was in her belly, she said something like that I didn't even know that I had to grow up.

Speaker 1:

We did the exact same thing, both of us. Yeah, we did the exact same thing when both our kids love it now?

Speaker 3:

yeah, they do just planting seeds and uh, yeah I mean it's great, I remember I learned that a long time ago yeah, what would you say?

Speaker 1:

I mean, what would you say just to leave somebody out on business wise, because a lot of people listen as far as business advice. Um, you know what's one nugget you would share with them of? Maybe they want to be an artist, maybe they want to put their music out out right now. Maybe they're waiting for Hollywood 2.0 to move to Summerlin right. What would you say to them?

Speaker 3:

Put it out, be confident in what you're doing. You know, I tell everybody, man, I'm past confidence and I'm past conceited, I'm convinced.

Speaker 1:

Convinced. I love that so be convinced in what you're doing.

Speaker 3:

You know, really understand, like, yeah, you don't keep shooting, keep shooting clips, keep shooting clips. I mean, what's the definition of success? Just failing 100 times right? So I mean you just got to keep going Some things are going to hit, some things are not and just put points up on the board. You got to put numbers on the board, no matter what, because that's the only way and all of my answers, they're going to come right back to consistency and discipline.

Speaker 1:

I'm glad you said it, Steph Curry, I just got to shout him out man have you seen the videos of just him his workout. Yeah, yeah. He's on a different level as far as it's funny.

Speaker 3:

You said that, like we was talking about Gilbert earlier, perrinas, he was saying that he had to tell his son. He said hey, man, you want to be like Steph. He was like right now, it's not possible, steph. He was like right now, it's not possible. He said let's see, a lot of times the problem is giving people like you got to be real with what's going on. He's like do you realize how many shots that Steph's been shooting to shoot like that? This is every day, though, and every day.

Speaker 1:

For how long? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, like four.

Speaker 3:

So he was like yeah, that, don't worry about that, Because you're not going to get to that. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's special.

Speaker 2:

It's a different level of discipline.

Speaker 3:

It's a different level of shots. I remember when he did an interview with Renis and them. He said that in his career. He said Steph said he believes it's close to a million. He said something like 900,000 and whatever number he said, but it was close to a million. So can you imagine People say a million but you know how long it would take.

Speaker 1:

We can't even count to a million, can't even comprehend what he's been doing Exactly.

Speaker 3:

So just that right there. That's crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's somebody, even though he's younger than me. I look up to him just because of how he's grounded and how he's raised his wife. His wife is doing a bunch of different things and then he just works his behind off. So, yeah, that's great man. Um, we always ask about restaurants, man, I seen you. I meant that we'll talk offline where you at recently, but I want to know the steakhouse you're at. But what's your favorite restaurant in vegas now?

Speaker 3:

um, it's funny, because did the mirage close?

Speaker 2:

it did. I used to. I used to like heritage man heritage okay.

Speaker 1:

Heritage steak place okay, yeah, yeah, I think that's the same as crap that's yeah, okay, okay, that's where I got engaged at, oh wow no, not at, not at a heritage, but at uh craft state yeah yeah yeah same same chef, I like, uh, I like, I like heritage man.

Speaker 3:

I actually had one of my clients that came out that I took him out. He did a VIP thing for his birthday. Okay, good stuff I like Heritage and I always know y'all be asking something. I was like let me try to think of something.

Speaker 1:

Give us a gym man. We done been so many.

Speaker 3:

I've been kind of everywhere but yeah, I like Heritage it was a nice nuanced place.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, nice ambiance too. I like all that type of stuff.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Heritage was dope.

Speaker 1:

Okay, it's done now. That's a wrap.

Speaker 2:

Maybe, they're making it back at Hard Rock.

Speaker 1:

Probably, probably right, yeah. But that chef is no joke, so he'll probably start with pizza.

Speaker 3:

Do you even have a favorite? You eat everywhere. Pocket does Right.

Speaker 2:

You can't have a favorite at this point.

Speaker 1:

No, I got too many man right from kylie bass to we just said to toro nakamura, I love that right. Uh, I couldn't believe that mazi brought up sushi fever that right, right, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah, I got too many of them on there, man, too many. I don't know when y'all trying to eat all these places. Yeah, he's been every place in vietnam, man.

Speaker 1:

No, you know I'm gonna say this right is in. Um, we laugh about this all the time and I shout out to tk because TK Kirkwood was making fun of us saying how the hell are y'all not fat Right?

Speaker 2:

right, that's what I was saying. You're looking good, in good shape, man. I'm trying my best man.

Speaker 1:

But you know what it is? Because we starve ourselves technically during the week for the most part.

Speaker 2:

And then we lose our mind on the weekends.

Speaker 3:

Eat clean, For sure, For sure. That's how. That's how you want to do it man, Good stuff, man.

Speaker 1:

What else, man? What else should you? Uh, maybe we forgot to ask you that you want to leave us out on that.

Speaker 3:

Um, like I said, I worked on this um this up and coming film. I did the theme song. Can you say what it is the theme song for that I just did a commercial for 2K25 with Jason Tatum SGA and Austin Reeves man. Shout out to Austin Reeves man. He got to work on his acting man. It was funny to see. It's funny to see them in their.

Speaker 1:

Doc Rivers is no, no, no, austin.

Speaker 3:

Lakers, lakers, okay, okay. I'm tripping AR-15. I'm tripping.

Speaker 1:

I'm thinking Austin Rivers, my man he commentated on podcasts and stuff.

Speaker 2:

He's not in the league, no more.

Speaker 3:

He's a funny guy nah, it's funny to see Austin Reeves man because it was funny to watch the director and how many it took him. You know, jason Tatum, you, you know in SGA they did, they knocked their stuff out and because you know they were out in Vegas doing it, they're the USA stuff. Okay, for the actual Olympics, okay, okay. So, um, it was cool, you know, met Tatum and stuff like that. He's, he was cool people, solid guy. And um, just Reeves man, he was taking so long, it was so many takes, just just for his, uh, just for his scene. So I'm curious to see actually when, you know, when it comes out with 2k25. I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with.

Speaker 1:

He's a big gamer okay, cool, he's a big guy. I don't play no games, but he played all my son, my son was going crazy.

Speaker 3:

Dad, dad, you was really with Tatum, man you really was.

Speaker 2:

That was kind of that was a good feeling. Huh, when you actually get the environment.

Speaker 3:

I remember when I, when I first did my show, that I first did, um, I believe it was in 2019 Vegas Social okay, um, it was on amazon prime and my son, when he first saw me on tv, he was going crazy. I mean, he'd seen me on stuff when he was younger but he couldn't remember it. He was like dad, you really are, you really were doing it. Man, I was like, yes, that's proud, not just saying it. So, yeah, um, 2k25, that commercial should be coming out. Uh, any, any day. I mean I was, I've been paid.

Speaker 2:

The check is cleared so that stuff, yeah it's coming out soon.

Speaker 3:

So, yeah, working on that and you know, like I said you know, always grinding, always putting in the work. You know, shout out to my guy Mozzy, he's got the new record with Jim Jones right now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, fire Taking all bets.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, that's really that's going to be shooting in Miami.

Speaker 1:

Okay, awesome, man. Well, keep tabs on G6,. Man, I appreciate you always coming back on. Always come with the right energy. You always come with the right energy. Man that's what.

Speaker 2:

I'm here to do man. I'm glad for you guys having me and stuff like that Appreciate it, man.

Speaker 3:

And it's like, hey, man, let's not. Man, we keep trying to stay in this space. Let me show right back up when it's the right time. You're trying to stay in the space, man, I love doing this man.

Speaker 1:

So we appreciate hanging out with you, man. What's your social handles? People can check you out at CapitalG6 on Instagram, capitalg6. Appreciate it. Check us out at TheVegasC Always, always, man, good stuff, man. Yeah, that was great, man, that was great. We stayed on the board.