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Game Changers Sports Academy: Building Scholars and Athletes of Tomorrow

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Forget the cliché of “student-athlete.” These founders flipped the order for real. We sat down with the team behind Game Changers Sports Academy to unpack how a bootstrapped vision became a rigorous school where a 3.0 GPA is the ticket to train, block schedules fight boredom, and phones go in a cart so attention can come back to class. They call the transcript “life insurance,” and their model proves why: small ratios, direct instruction, and accredited online platforms combine to meet kids where they are and push them where they can go.

We walk through the system end to end: interviews that require students to read their essays aloud, uniforms that cut status games, and real-time dashboards that trigger instant academic interventions. When progress slips, training stops. When mindset wobbles, coaches treat it like any muscle—trainable through standards, language, and reps. Their “isms” stick: hard work isn’t punishment, it’s payment; opportunities don’t vanish, they pass to someone prepared. The result is tangible—early graduates, rising GPAs, Division I opportunities, and quieter wins like a sixth grader who finally believes he can.

This is Las Vegas education with an edge: people-first, purpose-driven, and built for the reality of modern youth sports and NIL-era pressures. The founders share plans connected to the Hilo project in North Las Vegas, painting an Olympic-village vision where elite training lives beside focused classrooms. They’re not trying to out-glitz anyone. They’re proving that structure, mentorship, and accountability still outperform hype. If you care about youth development, performance coaching, or how schools can actually hold attention, you’ll feel the energy—and maybe borrow a few policies for your own home or team.

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SPEAKER_01:

Welcome to Vegas Circle Podcast with your hosts, Pocky and Chris. We are people who are passionate about business, success, and culture. And this is our platform to showcase the people in our city who are making it happen. And today it is just that, man. We've got two uh guests that were welcome into the circle, co-founders of Game Changers Sports Academy, uh, who are helping our student athletes maximize their potential in both school and sports. Uh so welcome to the circle, Rice and Coach Ba. Welcome, Bob, welcome to you. Good to see y'all in person again. Right again. This is what I love about Vegas, man. So I actually met these brothers at uh at a restaurant. Yeah. I think it was about two months ago now.

SPEAKER_03:

Couple months ago now.

SPEAKER_01:

And shout out to Jay Sean, which is friends of ours. Yeah, that's over at Uncommons.

SPEAKER_00:

But I did want to say this. How this is how we met. We were observing how you were how you were looking at your children. Oh, absolutely. We looked at you and your wife and how you guys were handling your kids. I appreciate that. And I think I said something about your food, and I went into a conversation on how your children were acting and behaving. That's exactly what they you were speaking about. Start off getting me emotional, man. Right off the chat, too. You know, I'll play with my kids. And then you had them stand up, and when they stood up and they how they introduced themselves to my wives and his shit. I was like, y'all doing the thing. I appreciate that, man.

SPEAKER_01:

Salute to y'all, man. We met your beautiful wives too, man. So how let's talk about it, man. Let's jump, let's jump right into it. So, how did you guys connect to form this academy? Because it's extremely hard to be able to do, but how did you guys actually connect and make this happen?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, you know, yeah, this is kind of, you know, well, we have we have history before all this. Okay. You know, Coach Vaug and myself, our children ran track. They ran track. So we saw each other in familiar areas, and and we were just always polite, and he was always polite, and our kids all, they were all competing against each other, really.

SPEAKER_02:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

And um, and that's kind of how we formed a friendship, really. We just formed a friendship by flying in different areas and at different competitions, track meets and stuff, and then we just kind of became a little bit of family. And then with game changers, I have a partner that's not here tonight, is Mel Spicer.

SPEAKER_01:

Shout out to Mel, man.

SPEAKER_00:

Heard great things about him. Good man, good man. Got it, got all the right stuff, you know. And actually, how I met this that gentleman is I'm an Air Force brat. So I look for structure. I look for structure in my life. And I was looking for a team for my son to play on. And I was scouting around Las Vegas, and you know how we did it. Oh, yeah. And not them, not them, not them. And I ran into Mel and I watched how it was organized and in place and everything. And then he was holding those kids accountable. And I was like, we can do this. That's how Mel and myself met. And we started that relationship, then I ended up coaching with him. He pulled me out there, start coaching with him as well. And I had in my mind, I had always had an ideal of, you know, being a former athlete myself and working with kids. You know, I'm I I'm a social worker. So I've worked with kids all my life. And I've been in especially at-risk kids. And so being in that that format, when I got to Mel, I was like, you know what, we could probably do some things a little bit different with our kids, you know, because these guys were into high performance training. Okay. And I just trained as an athlete myself, but my my kids, these guys were doing different stuff when I met Mel. And then we started talking about the possibilities of uh doing a few things different, maybe coming together and creating a gym and a training facility. And we entered into those conversations in 2016. 2016 is when we started Game Changers.

SPEAKER_01:

When you actually launched, like that's actually when you're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00:

That's when we launched, yeah. So we've been in business nine, and then school from the school standpoint, seven. So congratulations, because that's hard to do. That's very hard to do. You know what? He had already had a platform that was in place as well. So Mel had already had some experience in doing this. And so when we got together and we started kind of talking about it, and so we said, let's form a bond. And it was it was actually four of us. It was uh Manis Edwards, it was Mel Spicer, and Lamont Hicks. And they are the originals that came in. Okay. Now we knew about this guy across town because he was doing things and his kids were phenomenal. And and as we got to to a point where we decided we were gonna pivot and move into a to a direction with not just training but education, that's when we kind of started reaching out to this guy, trying to put our team together. And that's how the team started. And then we took it from there and we bootstrapped. Yeah, this is all bootstrapped. We didn't this wasn't this was coming in with sacrifice and heart and blood, sweat, and tears. You know, when we moved into from one facility to another, we did it. We moved into it. We we didn't have to we didn't call people to put us in. We put our own hearts into it and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01:

So that foundation is solid. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And built from the standpoint of this. Our kids were our kids were all athletes, and we were trying to figure out how we can maximize this gym as well. Okay, and so what we did is we took our children and we just said, you know what, let's try. Maybe we can cut all the fluff out and we can create the training and create a learning environment for these kids, and so we can maximize their potential because they all want to be elite athletes.

SPEAKER_02:

Got it.

SPEAKER_00:

And in that process, that's how it was formed. That it formed with our own kids.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, I want to mention this is that I remember coming home and talking to my my wife, my children were that were at Faith Lutheran. And I was talking about taking my son, my babe, the baby of the family, too, and bringing them to game changers and going through this process. So, you know, my wife looked at me like I was crazy. She looked at, and I had to sit her down and we have to really talk about it and pray about it. But what we what what developed out of that process and Devon coming to our school was more than we could imagine. More than we could imagine. And when the school launched, this gentleman here has been right in the middle of it. And and he brings his own, his own story. I mean, he he did the homeschool whole process himself with his children, and and then kind of, you know, so when he folded into it, it was natural. It was very natural.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. So kind of like layer into that. So, you know, obviously one thing from being like developing athletes, right? That's we obviously know it's very challenging. But once you lay in education, it brings a whole different piece to it, right? Now you bring up legislative issue, government enforcement, et cetera. I'm sure there's a lot of legal loopholes you have to jump through to even be able to get qualification to educate people, right? I'm assuming, like, but you know, what kind of dynamic did you bring into that mix? Because you know, obviously you jump into it, but that to me seems like a very much harder thing to get implement because I'm more regulation with schooling, I would assume. So, how did you kind of navigate from bringing what they already had in place to also bring what you wanted to the mix to bring in the education piece to it?

SPEAKER_03:

Well, you know, the the the biggest take when it comes to the education side, we know that there's always a disconnect sometimes with these student athletes where they they they they get praise on the accolades of their performance. And a lot of times if their focus isn't education, it gets overlooked or they put it to the side because nobody wants to give them any praise on it.

SPEAKER_02:

That's a great thing.

SPEAKER_03:

They just say, hey, look, you know, so for us when we started to deal with athletes and bringing the education piece in there, it was more so saying, okay, look, you can go get tutoring, you can go get some extra help, but can we create an environment that challenges you academically? So once we got, we sat down and we said, okay, look, the first thing we want to do is let's just limit the ratios. Let's get to a point to where we can have these students in a classroom where they can be identified as an individual. They can know who they are, because we know as they go up the ladder, you know, you're a social security number. You know, you get to, you know, you're, you know, I had a conversation earlier. Yeah, straight up talking. You're just there. Yeah. So so we put them, we we sat down and we said, let's look at this this way and see if we can find an environment that's gonna work. We started off thinking we were gonna probably have 12 to 20 kids. First year we morphed into 40, then we went to 60, then we went to 80, went to 120, then we got to a point of let's slow it down a little bit. But our original ratio was 12 to 1, was our student-teacher ratio we wanted to have.

SPEAKER_01:

Which is still that's still very good. Yeah. It is, it is.

SPEAKER_03:

And now we're at 15 to 1, which we won't exceed that. But back to your question on how we got to that point, you know, legislative and getting into those, those, those areas, it wasn't our lane, it wasn't our scope. Um, our hat goes off to any educator. Yeah. You know, I mean, uh, we look at it, one thing we can't pick when it comes to these kids is where they come from. Yep. And we don't know what kind of household they're going home to or what kind of rules and standards are already set in place. With all with a lot of us having a lot of similarities, you know, with military backgrounds or having parents that raise them a certain way. I mean, I grew up in a household, single mom. My dad was, you know, distant but still in my life. But I grew up with a lot of strict rules around me, you know, like, hey, you know, what you don't do, you know, and don't bring home. You know, so when we started to implement a lot of those rules in our school, we started to seek educators the same way that had standards. Hey, you really want to educate a kid. Being a teacher is one thing. You could teach, but you're gonna educate. I feel like it's just a separation behind it. So we started to talk about that, and we sat down and said, okay, what are gonna be our core principles? So we ended up creating a structure that was gonna be put in place where we can adopt a lot of platforms. So before we got to a point of like, this is our own standard, we used a lot of different platforms, a lot of online programs with our own educators. And that's pretty much kind of how it started. But we created a classroom environment that wasn't set to where it's like you're gonna do your own thing. So our teachers actually teach a direct instruction, even though a lot of our kids are on online platforms.

SPEAKER_01:

So if a student is in a class, but they're that same foundation. Brick and mortar. Brick and mortar.

SPEAKER_03:

So it's still treated like a true brick and mortar. You show up, you're in class. You start off if if if we're both sixth graders, and I might be in a more, um, he may be in a more advanced English class, I might be in a more advanced math class. But when we go into direct instruction, we get a sixth pro sixth grade instruction, but then once we get on our own platforms, they may be at a different curriculum level based upon where we test at. So that's how we put our structure in place so no kid was able to, you know, you didn't fall into like what happens in traditional school settings. You're gonna get taught what you're taught. It's kind of like how it is with food. You know, eat what you eat, you know, get what you get, don't throw a fit, right? You know what I mean? Like, you know, you better eat what's on your plate, right? So I mean, right, right, you know what I mean. So that's the thing. It's kind of like you like, I don't know about, you know, so so with our kids at the time, it was like, all right, their learning environments, everybody learns a little bit different. And we talk about this all the time when we're we're teaching instruction. So we do our best to have our coaches, and we've coined a phrase where a lot of these coaches that go up, and I call them all high performance coaches. Now, I know getting a chance to become a high performance coach does require some curriculum to a certain extent, but it's more so, how are you gonna have that student athlete get to a highest level they can perform at, not just athletically, but mentally. So a lot of our install was how do we get a kid to walk in the classroom and still be a competitor? They may learn differently. So if you got an instructor up there teaching you, can I learn something from them? Can I get some tools that I can put in my toolbox that I know that I can go ahead and apply this when I get on my own online platform? Did my instructor just teach me some things that can help me deal with it? So that's kind of what we ended up creating was something a little bit more different. It's a little different than your traditional. Yes, it's a brick and mortar. Yes, they sit in in a classroom. Yes, they start off with some direct instruction. And the teachers are challenged in the sense of, you know, yes, I may be in a lower sixth grade math than, you know, my peer is in the same class. But that instruction that's been taught to me has been enough to, you know, kind of, you know, they've educated me enough to where now when I go apply this back to my own platform, can I still excel up? So we've had a lot of success without going into deep, deep stories, but we've had some success where we've had some students when we had a few of our girls that we've allowed to stay through high school that have graduated high school in three years because of the platform that they've been on where they started to learn a certain way. And guess what? They're still athletes. So to be able to apply that and take that back to their playing fields or their perspective sports, it's been, we've had some pretty good success. I mean, we've had some kids come in with speech impediments and quote unquote learning disabilities. But then when they get into this environment and they're like, okay, I know that I'm gonna get direct instruction from my teacher, but now I get a chance to get on my own platform. Then they're on their own curriculum platform and they're like, all right, I'm I'm I'm comfortable in my own space right here.

SPEAKER_01:

Confidence, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

And that's great.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

So that's that that's so I I hope I answered your question. But as far as like, you know, the other things of like legislative and kind of hall that moves, we basically moved into a space of we want to offer something that works for everybody. And then so our environment with our with our kids, we're we're on these, they're on these platforms, it allows them to excel. And the best way I can explain it is our hockey program. Hockey came into Vegas as a new sport.

SPEAKER_01:

Because of the golden ice and everybody, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

So for us, it was a space, working with athletes wasn't foreign. But the education piece that a lot of these students that came into Vegas that may have moved from the East Coast and they got brought up on the ice, or they or they or they moved from the Midwest and they got brought up on the ice. Well, a lot of these kids came in with their own curriculums. So for us, it was a little bit of a challenge in the beginning where we're like, okay, well, let's understand what platform you're on, but our teachers understand education.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

And they're all accredited teachers. So they understand education, but now they got a kid that comes in with the program that was offered. And it's probably a national accredited program, and all the programs that they're on are all nationally accredited. But our teachers get a chance to sit down and go, okay, let me understand. Okay, now let me hold you accountable to this level. So since then, we found some others that work best for us, and majority of our students are on the same platforms now, but that's how it started seven years ago. And we've had a lot of success, and we've averaged, you know, roughly about a 3.2 GPA across the board. Because if our student athletes don't maintain a 3.0, they can't go train. So we deal with that. That's what I'm gonna ask.

SPEAKER_00:

That's not negotiable either.

SPEAKER_03:

And it's non-negotiable. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so we have people that come in. Every child that comes through the program goes through an interview process. They'll take a tour first, they'll come and do a tour. So they because they need to understand exactly what's going on, what they're getting into. And then we do an interview, and that interview is an hour long. So for the first 40 minutes, minutes of that interview, I'm talking about academics.

SPEAKER_01:

You ain't even talking about what they're focused on as far as sports or anything like that.

SPEAKER_00:

I let I let parents know right away because they would walk into our facility and see this. We had a pretty beautiful gym. You know, it was we had some stuff in place. And they would walk in there, and I know the kids were like, oh yeah, I'm gonna be working out, I'm gonna be running around doing all my stuff. And I set them down, I was like, hey, this is a 30,000 square foot building. I said, and upstairs, we have some classrooms. It's about 3,000 square feet. That's the most important piece in this building. I said, that's the difference between being good and great. I said, we we can get you bigger, stronger, faster. We can do that. These guys can do that with their eyes closed. I said, but you don't open those doors to become elite unless you have grades. I said, 3.0 and above. I know the public system says 2.0. Nobody is giving you a scholarship with no 2.0. That's not gonna happen anymore. 3.0 and above is where so when we come in there and I look at the parents, I usually have one sitting on the parents sitting on one side and a young man sitting on the other side. And I said, I don't negotiate with kids, and I don't negotiate with parents. I said, Here are our standards right here. This is what you have to meet. So make sure you understand you want to do this before you come in here. I said, because we won't lower it for you. Yeah, we won't lower the standard. You'll have to meet the standard. And uh most of the kids are like, I'm I'm ready to do it. I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_01:

You know what's so great, not to cut you out. I I think about Dean Smith, right? Remember Dean Smith was doing that. I remember that with Jordan and all the players just came to, they all were respecting them, they all went back to school to get their degree, even though they went to the league or whatever it is. And I'm glad you're doing that because these kids are making a ridiculous amount of money compared to what they're doing if they end up going to that professional level, but you're setting a foundation, and that's that's powerful.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, what I tell the parents is if you are betting on your kid to come into the program to be a professional athlete, I said that's bad math. That's bad math. That's bad math. The percentages and the statistics are real. Okay. And and you think football's only thing is a little bit better, right? Well, what less than two percent of the kids going out there competing are gonna get a Division I scholarship, and less than one percent will become a professional athlete. So if you're betting on those odds, that is bad math. That's that's learn, learn, learn. What we talk about and we stress this, they come in because they have a transcript. I go through their transcript and everything. I spend a lot of time on the on the grades, but what I tell them repeatedly, over and over, this transcript is life insurance. In this building, we call a transcript life insurance. And they're like, Well, what do you mean? I said, Well, because this transcript right here is gonna give you the ability to have a decent life because it's bad math out there. Now we're not trying to crush your dream. We want you to go for it. I want you to go and and try to pursue all the goals you can, but you better have insurance because every athlete has an expiration date on them. I'm one of them. I thought I could, I thought I was invincible, I thought I could play forever. That didn't happen. Yeah, you know, and so when you put the statistics on top of that, then you really got some issues. Our goal, mission statement is very simple. And so we are gonna make your student a better athlete and your athlete a better student. We're gonna roll it down at the bottom, and then we're gonna sow seeds into you because we're gonna mentor you and we're gonna make sure you are a good individual, character, integrity, discipline. That's all we do. But we sow seeds every day. So when these parents we've done, I mean, we become tearful in some of these interviews because they they understand that this is not just a business, this ain't a money grab here. This is life. This is life. And our own children have partaken, they own children have gone through this process. So I let them know I'm gonna talk to you like you're one of my boys. And they and we haven't had one. And then when they go out and they meet Coach Vaugh and Coach Mel, it's they they different. Because with our program, I'm gonna say this, and uh I I I said I wouldn't say it, but I'm gonna say it anyway. I'm gonna say it anyway. Our program gets mimicked. People are trying to do what we do. Okay. You can build a better building, you can do all that stuff, but you can't build a better team. See, the people that I have surrounding me, they're the best. They're the best in there, not just in what their craft is, but in their heart. So you get to know this guy and you get to know Coach Mill. And Coach Mel is a former SEAL. He's a former Navy SEAL. He's different. I'm already known because he's different, yeah. But I'm gonna tell you what, I love him. Yeah, I love this guy right here. And it's it's real. And this this kind of feeling and how we talk, it's how we talk in front of the kids. We let these kids know hey, you you you gotta be able to understand and be vulnerable. You gotta be vulnerable if you want, you know, you want to surround yourself with good people. Well, you gotta be vulnerable and you gotta be a good person, you gotta be a person of integrity. You will attract good people when you have integrity. And when you don't have integrity, you're gonna bring the other side in. I said, but they never get together, they never hang out together. When you have good integrity, they don't want you in the party. You mess up the vibe. Energy's off. Hey, I remember being that guy. I I was the guy that I didn't drink or do anything. They didn't really want to hang out, my boys. It was like, Rice, you ain't doing anything. No, I can't. But that's but that's the short of who we are and what we do from our from our mission statement. We we have these kids chase excellence in the classroom and on the field.

SPEAKER_04:

That's a great question.

SPEAKER_01:

What's the date? I'm sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04:

You know, you're even seeing it now. Like even just to become a professional athlete, or even to go through college as an athlete or even high school as an athlete, you do need to be rounded about. Like it's not just a matter of pure athleticism anymore. Right. The game's getting more challenging, things are getting more complex, it's more intellectual. Like everything, I see some of these playbooks, I'm like, how the hell do you remember that that fast? Like things are getting a lot more challenging from an intellectual standpoint, so it makes you know perfect sense. But when you're trying to prioritize how you're structuring your program, you know, how much of you know, kids go to school, what is it, seven hours a day now? Like, how do you structure how much of that seven hours is athletic training, how much is, you know, education?

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I'm glad you say that because uh we have a few new students that just started. And uh they go they are they they are they're they're being challenged right now because they've never been in a structured environment like this where the demand is so high for them. And we tell them, we say, as Rice mentioned, we say, look, this is not gonna be hard. You know, after he has his meetings with them, we sit down with them. I say, look, this is challenging. This school is not hard at all, but it's challenging because mom and daddy still expect you to go home and be that son or that daughter that they raised. We're an extension of that. So we're gonna challenge you to be the best you could be here. We don't get by, we get better. So we got to say, and we say, we get better what? Every day. You walk in there, we ask them, they say, we get better what they every day. Well, now I got a lot of isms I throw at them. I'm like, I'm gonna just I'll tell you one, I always say, I was like, I'm gonna explain something to you. I said, which play do you want? Oh, I want to, you know, the play. Oh, no, no, no. What play do you want? I was like, you just want to play. See, all this preparation is for an opportunity. And opportunities don't go away, they just go to somebody else. They're not gonna go away. Somebody else gonna get it. And I ask them, what's your favorite number? Oh, my favorite number's three. Okay. Somebody's gonna be wearing number three. If you don't, you know what I mean? Right, you know what I mean? Right. And it's gonna have their name on the back, not yours. You know, so we talk about those things, you know, when it comes to how we balance it, we say, just because you took that, you got off the playing field or you've been training and now you're back in the classroom, you're still competing for an opportunity. You're still challenging yourself to be better yourself in that class. So our balance, we call them block schedules. So the way it works is let's say I'll use the example. If all, you know, we were both baseball players and you both were basketball players, we call them training blocks. So we call them so every three weeks we have them, they switch on a training block. So the first training block for the first three weeks, you and I may be in class in the morning from 8 a.m. to 11:30. Okay, Chris and Rice, you guys are trained, you guys are in uh class during that time. You guys are in the classroom during that same time. And then at 11:30, we all have lunch, the whole school comes together, and then our blocks change. So now we're in class and you guys are training from 12 o'clock to 3.30. So that's how the blocks change. So they basically, and then during that time, we have their on online curriculum. So any work that isn't done, we with our ingenuity platform that we use, everybody has real time. So I know I think a lot of the schools in town use infinite campus, but the program that we use, all the parents, everybody has real time on their student. So if they're in the blue, they're ahead. If they're in the green, they're on track. If they're in the red, they're behind. So if all of a sudden you and I were trained, no, you guys were in class, and now you're gonna go train in the afternoon. If all of a sudden Rice is behind, we get that radio, send Rice to the class.

SPEAKER_04:

Dang.

SPEAKER_02:

All right, that's what I'm saying. So Rice can't do this.

SPEAKER_03:

So now he can't, now all of a sudden I'm looking like weird, like what Rice, where you at, man? What's going on?

SPEAKER_00:

You're getting held accountable. Yeah, getting held accountable by your peers. By your peers. You know, and some people like, well, you don't want to embarrass. It's not about embarrassing. You just accountability is accountability. That's a motivator, especially for athletes.

SPEAKER_01:

Especially because what's the age? Is it is it six, six to eighth grade? Six to grade.

SPEAKER_03:

Six through ninth, pretty much, but it's predominantly six to eight. That's our special.

SPEAKER_01:

See, what's powerful about that is like that's that too cool, you're trying to figure yourself out. So I see the perfect time.

SPEAKER_00:

It's beautiful because they they sponge us.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, you get them and you can actually change some of the behaviors. You can see them mold and change. We watch kids just shape shift. It is, it is, and it's beautiful. It's beautiful, especially when you start to really see them mature, not just physically, but mentally, when they start talking to you different and accepting a challenge different or adversity, because adversity is everywhere. Everybody's gonna have it. And our kids, they handle it, they you know, they handle adversity different because we teach it different. We let them know this is a normal part of being an athlete and being a person. You're gonna go through adversity in the rest of your life. You know, we when I talked about losing my mom and and my pops, man, that's adversity. So I could have just curled up, curled up. And you know how you feel about your parents, but I know my parents wanted me to be more than that. They didn't want me to curl up. I had other things that were out there. That's what we teach the kids. We keep it raw. We don't we don't shield it, we don't go too far, but we go far enough so they understand that, hey, they care about me. You know, they care about me. We we can we pick up on those little nuances that kids go through a regular school that a lot of teachers miss because there's so many kids. Right. But we can spot a kid like something's he ain't in the right shooting. That's it. That and then we're able to address it, you know. That mental health, we call it mental strength. That's what we call it in our program. I've never heard of said it that way before. It was he he made the word up. He got like he said, he had a lay is mental mental strength. And that's what we do in our kids. You know, our our kid that just got in our program, you know, we won't say his name right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But but how how how did he how did he respond to you when he he told you he said he got better? He thought he felt like he got better mentally. Yeah, it was he got challenged. He was just getting in there and and he's a fantastic kid. But I'm so excited for this kid. And he's just a little kid, he's sixth grade. He's sixth grade. You know what?

SPEAKER_01:

Not even to cut you off. I know I cut a lot of people off. I apologize, but I'm just thinking to myself, like, because you're bored in class. Like regular education, a lot of times, y'all figured this riddle out of how to keep people with the block schedules and things like that.

SPEAKER_04:

Because a lot of times you're there, you're bored out of your mind. Yeah, break it up a little bit. I get some excitement in it.

SPEAKER_01:

You're figuring this out. Like, I remember when I first met y'all at the restaurant, I said, wait a minute, what are y'all doing? Remember, I was like, stop. I said, slow down. I'm like, what are y'all doing? Because I had never heard this before. What you is I know you said people are still an idea, of course, because you guys got but I'm trying to ask this the right way. You guys figured the riddle that maybe Faith Lutheran, I'm just gonna say the names, Faith Lutheran, Bishop Gorman. They they don't even do this, right? Yeah, so like how do you get it approved to be able to like do it? You know what I'm saying? That's the mission right now. Because I'm like, how is this possible? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you know, if people understood. And if I'm stepping over stuff, I'm not trying to, you know what I'm saying? So no, the first our our first two classes, we had at least two dozen division one scholarships that came through ours. We there's some kids that just came home from the the Little World Series. They were they were students in our program. Oh, what a great feeling. Yeah, that's pretty cool. We got kids, you know, our girls are phenomenal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Our girls, you go ahead and run them down on our girls because our girls are just Well, even with um, you know, with the environment, even though our population have been more boys, but our girls, they ended up setting a, you know, a you know, when we say set the tone, but it's like, and I'll backtrack a little bit on like some of the isms. So one of the I'll say is, you know, um, hard work's not punishment, it's payment. So when we hold them to that, it's the same thing. I mean the book of all these isms. Okay, right on my own. Right now, while I patent quite a few already, which are kidding. But but look, I do want to say this, Chris. I'm gonna say this. When you ask that question about how do we deal with the school side, that's the thing. You just mentioned it, Packy. Where it's like they get bored or you're in the same redundant cycle. No day is the same. I mean, every day is completely different. Now, there are some things they do repetitive of with some of their training. And we have to tell them they got to draw back in. And I'll and I'll break down some of those examples later. But when we talk about hard work's not uh punishment is payment, same thing. So when we walk into a classroom, we see a kid drifting off, maybe they're, and we're like, I know you didn't walk in here to decide not to work hard today. You went out there, you worked out in your training today, and you were trying to be the best. Right. But now you don't want to work hard. Okay. So we you're right. So we keep it, yeah. We keep it in a mental state of like, and then they start to compete. So when he talked about those kids getting these scholarships that are playing Division I sports now, our first year we had a lot of alphas and a lot of kids that had come in. And I we would say if we really looked at it, it was probably maybe two to three that you would go, oh, that kid's got something. But 12 came out of that. And a lot of them ended up becoming early enrollees. We had a kid that came in, and we won't say any names, but or give it up on him. We looked at his behavioral report, and we're not a behavioral school. But the behavioral report was more on like we talked about, some kids get a little restless. Oh, you know, you got 15 bathroom breaks. Oh, you want to be the kid that keeps dropping. You got the loophole. Right, yeah, you know, right. So it's like we're looking at the writer, we're like, all right, he's going out. Like, well, what are you gonna say it is? Tell me your diagnosis. Oh, is he what does he have? Okay. Maybe the environment isn't correct. Gets into this environment, had a little bit of a speech impediment, had a couple things going on, fast forward ahead, becomes an early enrollee at a prestigious university right now, playing and competing and doing very, very well. But if we just went off of the traditional, we got into an environment where it was like, you know what? I think what really made it different for him was my classes don't have anything to do with your classes. My instruction is the same in the class, but once I get on my platform, I have this low teacher-student ratio. So I'm getting the assistance that I really need. And we have, you know, tutoring and things like that where students have to come or they come early or they come, you know, stay average. So we have that offered as well. But once he got into a pattern of like, hmm, this is working for me. He standing out. I mean, it was the coolest thing when he sent us the video. He sent a video talking about the school, what it's done for him, and all that. We're sitting there listening, going. When he walked in this door, oh, we were like, we're like, oh, watching him.

SPEAKER_00:

He might have to walk out. Yeah, watching it. Right, yeah, right, right.

SPEAKER_03:

So it turned into like, oh wow. So those are the things where, and back to our girls. We've had some girls that have come in that, you know, at the same time, we know that middle school is you're trying to discover, find yourself. Am I with the cool kids? Am I over here with this group, this group, that group? We break all that down. We all wear regular uniforms that are like this. We our first year we wore the polos and the khakis for school, and then after COVID, we stopped the changing. So they actually get five uniforms that look very similar, different, kind of cool, you know. You know, they get they they get their sweatsuits, all the stuff to wear. But everybody wears the same thing. So now it's not, you're not gonna come to school with your Jays, then go put your slides on, put your crocs on, and thumb a Louis build, and who can I impress? No, no, no. No, everybody's the same thing. Yeah, everybody's the same. Right, cut fall that out. And when you show up, we've been collecting cell phones for going on seven years. We've been doing that from the beginning.

SPEAKER_01:

I was gonna ask you, how does that work?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, they walk in. Well, the parents are the worst, but they get it, they know now. But originally, oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_00:

So as soon as you come into class, when you get to school, you come into the school, you walk in the building, you put your phone away, and we have a cart that has your number on it, and you put your phone in it, and that's it. And you So you don't get that until you check out the end of the day. And parents, when we first get it, parents are like, oh, we're not really feeling that because what if this happened? And I said, We got enough phones in this building to call you if something's going wrong. Y'all must be listening to our conversation at that point. I'm just literally talking about the city. I'm gonna tell you what, that social media and these phones, yeah, it's it yes, there's some good things that happen because you it brings you current stuff, real quick stuff, but the damage it does to your kids is incredible because when we get these kids, because it was like taking them off a drug, really. When they when we put them phones away, them kids didn't know how to act at first. And then now it's it's nothing. I'm not dealing with that comment at home right now.

SPEAKER_01:

Talk about this. You're talking about a lot of stuff. Like we we noticed that when we we block our kids from all of that when they do Friday and they get it back on Friday. Yeah, they're completely different people. As soon as they get this, then you can't even talk to them. They're gone the whole weekend. So you're right, you got to get to focus. But going back to what you were saying about social media and technology, I mean, if you look at all the top CEOs of the world, none of their kids are allowed to use the platform.

SPEAKER_00:

Because they move on to they they they made they made the money already. They know exactly one of those things. You know, this is what they do. But yeah, but as parents and and and educators and people that are mentoring and people trying to move this thing, well, we just use common sense. And it made common, it was common sense is like, hey, when they bring come in here with these phones, we're gonna have them put these phones away. Well, we're gonna get pushback rice, they're gonna push back, let them push back. You gotta hold your ground to stay.

SPEAKER_01:

And we held our and it says it in y'all's name. Your game changes. So it makes it make sense. You know what I what I love seriously about this is because Vegas we always hear about we we 50th, we're 48th, we're 49th. Yeah, but honestly, this is home for for Chris and I, right? Like I love Vegas and I love what's happening because we're we're starting to do more stuff like what you guys are doing. There's not just the service industry, not just hospitality, there's so many creative people, right? Like, that's why Chris and I built this platform is to showcase this. But more and more people need to hear what y'all are doing. This is great. You know, just even the honestly, the settles out isn't putting them in Clark Kana because it only uplifts all the youth. That's right. You know what I mean? To be honest with you, you know what I mean? So we just want to be part of it. That's what I wanted to ask you before you even go there. What where do you envision of this? Like, what's the next step of this, right? Because you guys have been seven years technically building because you started with the gym, then you brought in the academic side. So, where do you envision this going? Well, let's go.

SPEAKER_00:

There's a project here on the on the uh north side of town called Hilo. Okay, that's what's on the website. Okay. And we did we we're part of the center of it. So the theme of that Hilo thing is it's got an athletic theme, almost like an Olympic village. It's gonna have all the stores, all the things, it's gonna have all the stuff here. This is in North Las Vegas. North Las Vegas.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, yeah, that's my side of town. I'm gonna get my kids.

SPEAKER_00:

We're at in North Las Vegas for the people. It's well, it's off uh in between Lake Mead, Kerry, and then Rancho. All right, so we're changing to Vegas. Okay, yes. And the Texas, yep, they're clearing all that in. Oh, it's gonna be right there. It's gonna be the new downtown corridor, the new downtown North Las Vegas. That's right. We are currently in on the the ice rink there. Okay, ice rink is there, and we have morphed into that temporarily while they're building the rest of it. That's what I want to do. That's gonna be great. We're being pulled into a project that we we're very fortunate and blessed. You know, even though we've gone through adversity and stuff, we are very fortunate and blessed. Highly favored.

SPEAKER_02:

Highly favored. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And, you know, I'm gonna let you, you know, talk a little bit about it, but we're on our way to some big things. Thing that we want to do is make sure people understand we're not here to try to have a have a war or anything like that. We're here because we found some things that work and it's and it's provided opportunities. And you're making an impact.

SPEAKER_01:

That's that's the most important. Why are we competing if you're making an impact?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_03:

And and the biggest thing we know that, you know, youth sports, we know it's a big business, right? And we know yeah, it's it's it's huge. But we see where a lot of these areas have trickled down, you know, with professional sports being quote unquote, you know, that's the pro level. So now you're able to be compensated. So we're seeing a lot of those levels trickle down, which are professional sports have trickled down to high school. Or college, I'm sorry, college. All the way down, yeah, to even to the middle school level. So now you see these athletes that are in it for some are still, you know, they're striving to become a professional. And then there's some that are striving because hey, I can I can make a dollar today. And then some, you don't know their story. You know, they might have the whole world on their, you know, on their back. You know, they got a sick grandma at home. They they need to change the game. And there's a lot of stories out there that we hear about all the time. But as you mentioned earlier about, you know, our our our district, right? Or our state being at the bottom of the pole because we're better. Because we're one district. And and and and and just to go to bat for that is we're one district. We we got a lot of people here now, a lot more than they've had in the past. And hopefully at some point they break up the districts and that'll change a little bit. But when you have a student athlete or even just a student itself, we always say you don't have to be the biggest, fastest, strongest. He or she that knows the most plays the most. You learn a little bit about what you're doing, and you find some input, you put some time into it, apply yourself, you can go to the next level. So we've had some success back to like how we talked about with our girls. One of our first girls to graduate in three years, she didn't pursue an athletic scholarship, but her academics were so strong, she had five Ivy League offers coming out. She ended up, she's on her way to becoming a nurse practitioner right now. You know, I mean, excelled phenomenally. I mean, and but came into our program as an extreme introvert.

SPEAKER_00:

Didn't want to talk.

SPEAKER_03:

Didn't want to talk to nobody. Quiet. Ended up our president, came the president of our school.

SPEAKER_00:

That's a great story.

SPEAKER_03:

Set the bar high and just and had, and now she's had four other siblings come to our program.

SPEAKER_01:

I understand the power of like when you're learning and you keep entertained and you're focused and getting all the energies right, it's crazy. Yeah. But when you're bored in class, and then we wonder why people take pop them doing all these pills because they're bored out of their mind. So you see that. Yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_00:

I think you got a love on them too. It's the the time you take to mentor somebody and so season to them, I think changes the whole environment. I agree. You know, when they when they actually know that you are really concerned about them having an opportunity to move forward and change their life, when they know it's sincere coming from you, that changes everything. These kids know, yeah. They know.

SPEAKER_04:

You can tell your passion is different than what I got from anything I got from you. I'm telling you, that means a lot.

SPEAKER_01:

Y'all, y'all killing it, man. So we got talked just in the in and off, at least, about business and life advice, right? I'd love to hear from y'all's perspective. I mean, you guys are obviously building a school, but you're entrepreneurs too, right? You're building a business, right? What would you leave, you know, just one lesson or nugget for an entrepreneur that's wanting to start out right now? Because you guys have obviously dealt with a bunch of adversities. A lot of red tape to be able to do what you guys are being able to do. What would you leave? What would you leave them on in one nugget?

SPEAKER_00:

My my my one nugget is understand that adversity is coming. It's part of it. You you know, you have to be very resilient at this, and you have to continue to move forward. I always tell them, hey, when you run into adversity, you gotta pivot sometime. But you gotta keep moving forward. I say it may set you back, you know, and all things that are done, they're done for a reason. We believe that things happen. It's setting you up for the next thing, and that's and that's how we move. We set up for the next thing. So my biggest thing is just resilience and stick toveness. You know, you gotta be able to stay in the game and and keep going because they're gonna throw a lot of curves, a lot of things are gonna come at you, and you have to weather it. You know, and that's where my parents, they they they taught me how to weather stuff because they weathered it all their lives. You know, they you know, especially in the in the military, you didn't think it would be like that, but just navigating that and just learning that, that's what I would say. I would say, hey, be prepared for adversity and get ready to stay in it long haul. Don't be it ain't quick. It's a it ain't a sprint, it's a marathon.

unknown:

That's where I'm at.

SPEAKER_01:

I love you got something to share.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, you you know what I would just say, I'll keep it simple. I'll say, you know, people make the world go round like the stylistics, right? It's the people, you know, and I think a lot of times in business, you know, there's yeah, there's an order of business in certain places that you want to follow and you learn from others that came before you, but don't forget about the people, you know, and and and and understand that because people in those relationships are gonna open doors for opportunities. So I would just say, you know, slow down, pay attention to the people before you just, you know, you're gonna be purpose-driven, but don't pass the people. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01:

Don't pass. Right.

SPEAKER_03:

So that's what I would say. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

That's what one I'm it's funny because I just thought about this today. My wife has sent me this article, and I'm I'm wearing Tokyo, right? Because we're talking about Japan, we just came back from Japan. But they were talking about how there, the pressure of all that, they literally forced them to be pressure up till six years old. Yeah, they don't handicap them on everything, they're doing all the stuff that you're doing as an adult at a young age, and they don't handicap them like we do in America, where you can't walk by yourself or do or go to school or whatever. It's it's wild. And y'all are doing those things pressure-wise.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, and I'm gonna tell you, like, even to the basics of like uniforms, overseas, that's all everybody wears uniforms, go to school. They they that they solved they solve that overseas a long time ago. I'll make it even better than that.

SPEAKER_01:

Japan, they wear full full suit and tie, whether you're in a taxi or anything. Full suit and tie. Oh, we. Full suit and tie.

SPEAKER_04:

That's next.

SPEAKER_00:

No, full suit and tie. Hey, hey, your appearance and how you hold yourself show up. It shows up.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

When kids come to our interview, they come to our interview and their little ties and stuff like that. I let them know right from the handshake, how you shake my hand, I let them know right there, you are making an impression on me, young man. We haven't even gotten sat down and talked yet, but you have already started off good.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Just how you came in. Now I also had some kids come in there in the hat and you know, and shorts and stuff, and I looked at the parents, and um, and sometimes the parents, you know, they'll look at me, and but I I address it. I say, hey, you know, this is an interview process. So you're gonna bring them in here this way? So good because we're gonna teach, we're gonna learn today. We're gonna start learning today. And I say I'm and I'm gentle, I say it in a nice way, but I'm trying to tell them, hey, I'm gonna teach your kid how to present themselves. That's a great mindset. That's a good point. Nobody's doing that. And they we don't argue. I ain't had nobody hit me in the jaw or nothing like that. We've all been friendly, but I'm I'm saying it from an area not to be malicious. Um I I care about the individual coming in. We're gonna learn today. We're gonna start right now.

SPEAKER_04:

Because we have a hard time now, because everybody's so sensitive about their kids. So people are very hard to take directions from other people about their own kids. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

I'll say this um, even with the interview process, you know, we have all the student athletes write an essay why they want to go to school there. So they walk in and they bring the essay in, but then they have to read it.

SPEAKER_01:

That changes the whole game. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

So now we're gonna read it. No, just just in the interview. So if uh if Rice is doing it, it's usually a one-on-one, or if I'm doing it, or what, you know, we have a a few of us, it's it's it's three of us, four of us that actually do it. So we'll be in with the the families, and the parents are there and the student. And you know, we've had some pretty impressive ones. Oh, and then we've had some that we know where I just excuse me, can you stop for a minute? Yeah, and I'll go just like this.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. This isn't about who wrote the essay.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, for real.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, my name doesn't start with an A and it don't end with an I. You probably know how to work it better than I do. So this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna rewrite this in your own words, and you're gonna come in here, you're gonna read this. And the reason why you're gonna read, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

It bothers me more than anything.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah. But we gotta do it with the young app, these young students now because and we know there's a lot of pluses and a lot of support, and AI does some great things for us. But a lot of these young students right now, I mean, man, they can they can really push through without learning anything. And then, you know, I'll let us speak on that when we after they read it, and the reason why we have them read it.

SPEAKER_00:

The reason why is is simple. Just what we're doing today. At some point, when that light is shining on you and it's bright, they're gonna put that mic in front of you. And that is your time. And he always says, opportunities don't go away, they'll just go to somebody else. And we say, and we tell them when your opportunity is in front of you, you better grab a hold of it and seize it. I say, because it's your time. So you got to get comfortable talking in front of people, get comfortable just sharing, being vulnerable and presenting yourself the right way. And show people that there's a humble side to this. See, I'm we we we're old school. I'm I'm real old school, and I believe in sportsmanship. Okay, I believe it sends the right synergy into the stadium. You know, you cannot run somebody's kid over and you pick them up and the parents and say, Man, he done ran my kid over. But he's a good athlete.

SPEAKER_02:

That's that's a good kid.

SPEAKER_00:

That's a good kid. Big real big film by 70 points. That's the good kid, though. That's important. That's important to this day. Right. That's what it's all about. So I applaud what y'all are doing, man.

SPEAKER_01:

I gotta talk with y'all, so we're gonna we're gonna finish this up. But I always gotta ask somebody about food, man. That's I'm a big foodie. I met y'all at a restaurant and tells you a lot, but what's y'all's favorite restaurant in Vegas? Oh, favorite restaurant?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, it's quite a few. All right, let me think.

SPEAKER_01:

At least give us one.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I I do like Ocean Prime.

SPEAKER_01:

Ocean Prime is bombing.

SPEAKER_03:

Ocean Prime, yeah. That's probably one that we frequented.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't think anybody's saying Ocean Prime. I said crystals, right? Uh crystals, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, and and I mean, I I'm you know, I'm a big seafood guy, but I think they come in sometimes pretty, pretty solid and fresh with it. I know there's some that have come in town and we're like, all right.

SPEAKER_01:

Frozen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

So, you know, but I mean, but there's there's there's I don't want to leave anybody out, but uh my wife is actually a foodie.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Like, for real. Okay. Like I it blows me away. I'm like, where do you find this place? Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? But uh, yeah, so we get out quite a fit frequently in a meta.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I think like block nine's the the Thai fu is Nataya? Is it Natalia?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, Natalia, yeah. That's fantastic.

SPEAKER_00:

That's two places, y'all. Nobody said, yeah. That's big time. And then their branch off is the block nine. Yes, yeah. Oh, I didn't know that was there. Yeah, that's there. Yeah, we were just talking about both of them. Yeah, town center. Yes. We've been there too. We enjoy that on a regular, on a regular basis.

SPEAKER_01:

We got the same palette, man, because both of those are good. Yeah. Block 9 and Oceans Prime.

SPEAKER_00:

But let me ask you, what about dessert?

SPEAKER_01:

You you mentioned an album. Except this Dubai chat stuff be popping out. I got some cookies that was. Where's that at?

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, dessert.

SPEAKER_01:

What is it? Summer House. Okay. They got some Dubai cookies that is on the same, man. They've been catching me.

SPEAKER_00:

But uh I'm gonna let y'all know I'm a connoisseur of desserts. Okay, I'm I'm gonna play around with desserts. It's been a long time, but I'm I'm gonna play around with them. So I like buttercake.

SPEAKER_04:

Where's that at? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

Buttercake disinjection. Buttercake in Jessica. Okay. I've had that.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

But we went, we we went to another side. His wife found it, went to another side down there where we had our meal is at Rare. It's across the street.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, right next door. Yeah. So we went to Rare in San Diego, but we haven't been to the new one here in our comments. Try the buttercake. Rare society. Rare society.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey, I put it in number one. Okay. I'm gonna check them out.

SPEAKER_04:

That's a strong statement. I'm gonna go check them out.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I'm you can't put that buttercake in. Okay, that's that's a powerful statement. It's powerful. Okay. It's it's it'll it'll change your life.

SPEAKER_00:

It'll change your life.

SPEAKER_03:

It might make you exit. You might be driving just how powerful.

SPEAKER_01:

It's a dessert. So that's a first dessert. That's the first dessert. That's good. That's good. That's good. What do y'all want to finish us out on, man? What you want to leave us out on, man? Y'all done, y'all like y'all brought us to church. Y'all brought us to uh to to uh to motivational speaking, impacting taking notes of the isms.

SPEAKER_00:

You know what I want to leave you with is um it's all authentic. This is who you what you see right now is what you get when your kids are involved with us. We don't change. It's the same. Yeah, it's the same. So that passion that you hear. You know, we were both very talkative, but it's passion. It's just don't we don't just like to talk about it? You care. That's what I get. I feel it in here and and and I feel it up in here. Sometimes I start talking, I feel like I'm getting ready to get off. Teary-eyed. Yeah, that's that my my dad's stuff, with teary-eyed and stuff. But it's authentic, it's real. That's that's that's what we're about.

SPEAKER_04:

The energy in the room, to listeners out there, energy in the room, you can tell it's authentic. Like, you know, I said that first time I met you.

SPEAKER_01:

I said I text him immediately, like, yo, I met these cats. Yeah, literally. I follow what y'all doing, man. Support what y'all doing, man. Y'all always welcome with us and being able to update on what y'all are continuing to do, man. So we salute what y'all doing. What's the uh social media on the and the sites people can reach out to you guys at?

SPEAKER_03:

So we're we're uh so we're game changersportsacademy.com and it also comes up under dot club as well. Okay, and then we're game changersports.com as well. And then on our Instagram, if you just type in Game Changer Sports, it'll pop up. We have a few different, we also have some of our youth sports programs that are affiliated with us that'll pop up as well. So you'll start to see a, you know, we're we're like we say, we're we're old school, you know. I've been, you know, we've been in this training world for a long time. Back in the day it was all the confidentiality, and and you know, people didn't put everything out now is show me. So we do our best with our student athletes. What I'll end on is to, you know, just let them know, hey, you know, you're gonna go out there and have a whole lot of fun. But when they line up against you, let them know I do this for real.

SPEAKER_00:

That's right.

SPEAKER_03:

You know what I mean? So that's our biggest thing is we let these athletes realize all your hard work, it's not punishment. So you go out there, go get paid. You know, go have that fun, go make them plays. And what play do you want? That one. All you need is one opportunity. And I and you know, not to bring up other athletes so much, but always use the scenario of Odell Beckham. I was like, what play do you remember? He'd be like, that one-hand catch. I'm like, yeah, I said, if he wasn't in the game, somebody else might have had that same opportunity, but they may not have been prepared for it.

SPEAKER_01:

He's 100%.

SPEAKER_03:

And he was prepared, yeah. His preparation that nobody saw, we didn't know he did all the one-hand catches before he made that catch until they showed him.

SPEAKER_01:

And got hurricane.

SPEAKER_03:

Right, yeah, exactly. So we just got to tell him, you know, hey, those opportunities, you know, just be prepared for it. But um, that's what I'll leave you guys at, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

And we appreciate it. We appreciate it. Thank you guys. Come on, man. I'm not gonna appreciate it. Thank you guys.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, thanks for having us. Appreciate your own. You guys are doing it. Yeah, appreciate it. Right on, yeah, right on.