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The Dream World
EP105: Lucid Laughs & Dream Lessons
In this episode of The Dream World Podcast, I’m joined by Darrell from @IAMDarrellDigital. Hes a comedian, content creator, and lifelong lucid dreamer. We dive deep into his early dream memories, how he learned to fly and shapeshift in his lucid dreams, and the mysterious dream messages he received from his conscious.
Darrell shares how his dreams have evolved from fun experiments to deeply symbolic journeys, including a powerful dream involving a “yellow worm,” ancestral wisdom, and a message to shed his old identity. We also talk about parenting a young dreamer, building consistent dream maps, and using humor as a bridge between dream and waking life.
If you've ever wondered what it's like to meet your higher self in a lucid dream, or how to turn dream symbols into real-world transformation, this episode is for you.
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Darrell
So I dreamed about Mike Tyson, breaking up a fight between me and some guy who was trying to, like, beat me. I'm trying to make, like, a sell on some weed, and he's trying to steal the weed from me. And Mike Tyson's like, hey, leave him alone. I'm just like, you know, like defending him. He's trying to steal from me.
And he's like, he has, like, this fur coat on with no shirt, and it's just nipples are just exposed and, like, pointy as heck. I'm just like, what the heck's going on? But it it it was a dream. So I turn that into a comedy sketch for, for TikTok. But what was interesting about that dream with Mike Tyson is when I realized I was dreaming.
So I asked him, I said, Mike, what's your zodiac sign? And he goes, I'm a Leo. So when I woke up, I immediately look up his natal chart. I'm like, it's not a Leo, but I look at his whole chart. He has a lot of Leo influence. I'm like, oh shoot, that's crazy that I never met him before.
Amina:
Welcome to the Dream World podcast. Talking to people about dreams is like my favorite thing ever, so it's cool. Do you keep a dream journal? Two how long have you been doing that? Like, what are you into? Like writing them down? What got me into writing them down? Wow. We jump right into it. So yeah, sorry I skipped the intro part, but we'll get there.
Darrell
That's right. I think it was my mom who got me into it, honestly. And what sparked it was the earliest dream I can remember was from around 4 or 5 years old. And. And this dream, I remember being in some sort of, like, village with a bunch of single story buildings and like, huts. I think, like Zelda or like Pokemon, that type of set up.
Right. But there's nobody there's no animals, there's no people, there's no cars driving around. It's just barren. And I get scared. So I mainly start crying for my mom. Right? And something smacks me on the back of my head. And then when I go to look at it, it stays in my peripheral, so I can't look directly at it.
And I say, what are you, and they say, I'm your conscience. And like, say, I want my mom. And I started crying even more. And they were it says to me, your mom can't hear you because this is a dream. And that didn't help me settle at all. Now I'm just like, my mom can't hear me. So, I start crying even more and I cry to the point where I wake myself up.
00;02;46;23 - 00;03;06;24
Unknown
And now that I wake up, I start crying for my mom and she runs into my room and she's like, what's going on? What's the matter? And I say, my conscious smacking, my conscious smack me. She goes, what? I she goes, come, come on, you can sleep in my bed with me. So that same night I go to sleep and then I have a weird dream about Santa Claus.
00;03;06;26 - 00;03;23;15
Unknown
And then when we wake up, she asks me, now what? Tell me what you dream about last night. To which I go right into the Santa Claus dream. And she goes, no, no, no. You told me you had a different dream. Do you remember? I said, yeah, my conscience smacked me. She says, who taught you that word? How do you know what that is?
00;03;23;18 - 00;03;41;18
Unknown
That's. And he told me that was his name. And then from then on, she told me to she. She said that she would keep a, a record of my dreams. And then I was I got older, so maybe about eight years old is when I start documenting my dreams for myself. So that's how I got started. Yo.
00;03;41;18 - 00;03;56;21
Unknown
That's cool. I love that we got right into it, because first of all, I love how, like, your mom was really helping you foster that and like, listening to you about your dreams. That's like super important. So kudos to her. Yeah. That's awesome. That's cool that you had that dream at such a young age. So we'll talk more about lucid dreaming.
00;03;56;21 - 00;04;14;28
Unknown
But now we'll back up a little bit to the intro. Welcome Darryl, who I met on Facebook. And you do have you have a podcast to write, like, what do you kind of do out there in the online world? Well, I have a YouTube channel that I do a bunch of different things on my channel. There's no one particular niche except for, I guess, comedy.
00;04;15;01 - 00;04;42;18
Unknown
Comedy will be the overarching theme of the content that I create. But I have some street interviews up there and relatable humor and skits. Sometimes I do with my by myself or with my wife. That's cool. Well, so nice. I'll definitely link all your stuff as well. So after like, you started having these, like, vivid dreams and stuff as a kid, like, were you lucid dreaming at a very young age too?
00;04;42;18 - 00;05;15;05
Unknown
Or like, how did your dreams evolve over the years as you grew up? Definitely started lucid dreaming at a very early age. Self-taught. I didn't know what lucid dreaming was. At that age, I just knew what I was doing, and I thought that everyone did that. So, I think I think about third grade is where I started doing a lot of my own personal research, finding books.
00;05;15;07 - 00;05;39;24
Unknown
And just talking to family members and friends about dreams and sort of doing, like, reports and stuff for school about my dreams. So lucid dream started, probably around eight years old, and that's when I started to teach myself how to fly, amongst other things. So that was the first thing I taught myself was how to fly. And I saw some flying in dreams as like, definitely like one of the most fun, freeing things ever.
00;05;39;26 - 00;05;54;05
Unknown
It's definitely a classic. What other kinds of things like do you do in Dreams now? Because I've also been lucid dreaming for like since I was a kid. So I've had all this time with this experiment, try different things, go through different phases, like what are some of the fun things you've like tried over the years?
00;05;54;08 - 00;06;24;16
Unknown
Yeah. So I pretty much can do anything. My mind can come up with my imagination. It's just like really free roam right now. Shapeshifting teleport station flying. I like what I like to do now currently is have conversations with dream characters. So I have a point where, I used to want to tell them that this is a dream.
00;06;24;19 - 00;06;49;28
Unknown
Like, I used to talk to them and say, hey, do you know this is a dream or your dream characters and things like that, to which they always will respond with, what are you talking about? You know what I mean? Just like what? What do you mean? So now instead of saying something like that, I just treat them as if they are only aware of what they're aware of, and I just allow them to have their own reality.
00;06;50;00 - 00;07;09;29
Unknown
So, now the conversations are more like, hey, when's your birthday? And it was and it was so funny the first time I did it. I was in a school. It was a basketball game going on, but I'm talking to some of the teachers or administrators outside of the basketball court. And I said, cause I'm lucid, right?
00;07;09;29 - 00;07;33;28
Unknown
I say, hey, what's your birthday? And the guy goes, oh, I'm going to. Yeah. Like, when were you born? And was like, really contemplating like, oh, but I have a birthday. He goes, I don't, I don't know, I don't think so. I'm like, come on, everyone has to have a birthday. It's one time of year where we celebrate that time and day that we were born.
00;07;34;00 - 00;07;48;07
Unknown
You supposed to celebrate that? I think you should start doing that. And he's like, yeah, you know what? I think I am going to pick the day to start celebrating once a year just for me. And I'm just like, this, like, lucid dream is just so fun. It's just, I don't know, there's just so many different things.
00;07;48;09 - 00;08;04;04
Unknown
Yeah. You never know what you're going to get. I also like, I like to just talk to dream characters and just one of my favorite things to do and just go around asking them things, picking their brain, seeing what they say. Sometimes I get crazy answers. Sometimes it's like cool, predictable things that I, you know, can attribute to my life.
00;08;04;06 - 00;08;21;10
Unknown
But yeah, sometimes I wonder, like, do these people exist outside of my head or not? But there's a lot of like online talk about like, don't do this in a dream. Don't do that. Don't tell them you're dreaming. Like a lot of fear based mongering. But I try to steer people away from that because it is a lot of, like, a good space for experimenting.
00;08;21;12 - 00;08;42;03
Unknown
Have you found that there's any, like, rules or things that you try not to do in a dream, or do you feel like it's just experimenting openly? Whatever rules, I break them immediately. Yeah. So any rules, I mean, I'll learn the rules so I know how to break them. But I mean, everyone deals with things differently, I guess.
00;08;42;05 - 00;09;00;11
Unknown
But me personally, I don't follow any particular rules or to do this or to not do that. I just do whatever I feel comfortable with. If I don't feel comfortable with it, I just won't do it. But as far as, like I said, the dream characters conversation, I used to always try to convince them that they're dreaming, but it never worked.
00;09;00;13 - 00;09;13;23
Unknown
I used to do things like, look, I'm levitating, can you do that? Or look, I can fly. Can you do that? Or look, I can build it. I can make a tree grow out of nothing. Can you do that? And which I never get a good response. Like, yeah, I can do that too. Let's do stuff together. I never got that.
00;09;13;26 - 00;09;42;22
Unknown
So I'm just like, whatever. I just let them believe whatever they believe or think however they need to think without, pushing too much of my own thoughts onto them. I guess even though everything in the dream is you anyhow. But, you know. Yeah, definitely. Sometimes I'll notice that, like, the dream characters kind of project on what I'm thinking or like things from my subconscious, and sometimes they'll even tell me, like I have had some times where they'll be like doing dream things with me and like flying around with me.
00;09;42;24 - 00;09;56;11
Unknown
Or sometimes they'll be like, yeah, I'm a dreamer to that. But, you know, it could all be in my head and because I believe in that kind of thing would be really cool to share dreams with others. Like, who really knows if they're actually a dreamer out there or if I just made them up? Like, we really don't know.
00;09;56;11 - 00;10;24;26
Unknown
But it's still a cool concept to explore and just like doing all these things in dreams. That's awesome. How often are you lucid? Like, generally. Generally lucid. Well, I think I'm at the point where I can just go lucid and work. I'm very, very, very aware of when I'm dreaming because I've. But even right now, I always have it in my head that this could possibly be a dream, even though I know it isn't.
00;10;24;28 - 00;10;44;07
Unknown
But I don't let myself be so stubborn to think that this can't be a dream, so that now when I go to sleep, I can still have that same mindset that this because we all go to a lot of times we go to sleep and we are so convinced that it's not a dream. So I use my waking life to say that, hey, this may be a dream.
00;10;44;09 - 00;11;01;19
Unknown
Throughout the course of my day, every moment I'm like, this could possibly be a dream. And if it is, I don't know. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But I always keep myself open to that so that when I do go to sleep, I have that same mindset. And then once I realize I am dreaming, I just go lucid.
00;11;01;21 - 00;11;22;21
Unknown
Yeah, that's a really good technique. I mean, that's pretty much what I do too, is like always being like mindful and aware of like the state that I'm in and that does carry over into my dreams a lot. So when you're lucid, like how? Because there's a spectrum, right, of how vivid it is, how aware you are, like how conscious are you of your sleeping body and what you got to do the next morning?
00;11;22;21 - 00;11;44;12
Unknown
Or do you feel like you go amongst that spectrum are usually pretty like pretty confident and solid in your lucidity? Well, now I'm very solid in my acidity. It's, it's unbreakable at this point because I've been doing it for so long. And I'm was honored by this. I'm a very light sleeper, so it doesn't take much to wake me up out of my sleep.
00;11;44;18 - 00;12;05;20
Unknown
Like, for example, I don't do alarms, but my wife does, and I can hear their alarm from our sleep, which I will wake myself up to tell her to turn off her alarm. I gotta, I don't and I don't like it because it kind of like makes me forget whatever I was dreaming about because it disturbs me, you know what I mean?
00;12;05;27 - 00;12;29;00
Unknown
Yeah. So that is frustrating, especially if you value your dream time, which I do. But yeah, that's part of, you know, living with other people and adapting. So I get it. What are your like non lucid dreams like, like how often are you just having like non lucid dreams and like, do you feel like they're still just as like vivid and you have the recall or are they mostly lucid by default?
00;12;29;02 - 00;13;01;09
Unknown
I have extremely good recall. I write down a dream every single day, and my current dream journal goes back to 2018, and not every day since 2018, but this past 60 or 70 days, I've written down maybe 50 to 60 dreams, you know, just every day. But my dreams that aren't lucid, they usually, consist of, I guess, whatever I was going through for the day.
00;13;01;09 - 00;13;21;00
Unknown
But here, let me just open my dream journal really quick so I can see some. I'm looking at one of my most recent, for example, that wasn't lucid. Okay, so this dream right here, I wasn't lucid, which when I woke up and wrote it down, I'm like, how did I not go to lucid? Because it was just so many.
00;13;21;02 - 00;13;39;27
Unknown
Your dreams are always telling you like, this is a dream. This is clearly a dream. But yeah, I think we ignore that. And I guess I think the subconscious just wants to give us a message and without us trying to alter it or change it or take control, sometimes it's just necessary for us to just listen or observe.
00;13;40;00 - 00;14;02;13
Unknown
And also, I never have dreams in third person. And some people say they have dreams in third person. Minds are always in first person. But this dream right here, this is from Thursday, June 5th. Batman and Bane are in my city, but I live in New Haven, Connecticut. But it's Gotham, but it's my city and they're getting ready to go to war.
00;14;02;15 - 00;14;31;02
Unknown
Everyone in the city is on standby. I'm unaware of this, but when I leave my house, I go to throw something away in the trash. But when I go outside, the whole city is completely still. Still I see Swat in position. I see Bane and his people in position, and I see Batman readying himself. There's an old guy with a cane attempting to get on the other side of town, but bangs people will not let him pass me as well as my Uncle Ricky.
00;14;31;02 - 00;14;58;17
Unknown
Try to convince them that he's a harmless old man and just needs to get to his destination. One of the things troops threatens to break the old guys good leg. We retreat. He goes into a basement full time. My wife and daughter are inside, probably wondering what's taking me so long to return. I go downstairs to wherever that basement the old guy goes into and the door is shut and it has no door handle.
00;14;58;20 - 00;15;21;05
Unknown
I happen to have a fork, so I use the handle of the fort to get into the turning mechanism to open the door. Once inside, I notice the whole backside of the building is completely exposed, like it was demolished, but the basement was still intact. I just know that banks people will do a search walkthrough and so I look for a decent place to hide.
00;15;21;07 - 00;15;40;29
Unknown
I see a white boy around 15 to 18 years old. He has a basketball. There's a white girl to attempt to warn them that we have to hide. The girl offers me a gold chain. A young black boy enters and he turns on the light. I plead with him to turn it off so we remain discreet. He doesn't care.
00;15;41;01 - 00;16;00;26
Unknown
I drop my chain and now I have to go down several feet to find it before descending. The two boys are conversing and seem proud of their chains. I say to the black kid, where's mine? He quickly offers me his bracelet as if to say, I have enough to share. That was. That was my most recent now lucid dream.
00;16;00;29 - 00;16;26;24
Unknown
That's cool. That's like a movie. And I love how much detail you put in there. I'm like that too. I try to get all the details as much as I can remember. And yeah, that's pretty one that I would wake up from. Like, how did I not realize that was legit? But yeah, that's cool. How do you do like, just kind of go off of feeling or do you do anything to like, interpret or like, you know, find any meaning for it or how do you need to look into the deeper meaning of it?
00;16;26;26 - 00;17;08;08
Unknown
It was originally, I never did. I would just write down and document what I see. But now, starting to be more aware of what I hear and how I feel like, what did this dream make me feel? What is the emotion behind it? So the way I interpret this dream was that, like, for example, me getting into that basement door that had no door handle and using the fork was just a way to say it was my way of seeing that I can I can get into places that I have to use particular skills necessary to get in, like, I guess, what's it called?
00;17;08;10 - 00;17;28;24
Unknown
When you when you like MacGyver type thing, when you can use something that's not necessarily the tool to get into something. I forgot the word, proper word or phrase for it, but it shows that I have that, like I'm able to do things like that in my waking life in general, to get me into places that I probably wouldn't be able to if, you know, otherwise.
00;17;28;27 - 00;17;44;11
Unknown
Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. That's there's I love how there's always like deeper messages there. And I always tell people like, you can really figure it out for yourself, you know, don't depend on googling it or dream dictionaries and things like that because like we have all the answers within us of what our own subconscious is trying to tell us.
00;17;44;13 - 00;18;00;02
Unknown
So that's really cool that you have like that, that strong relationship with your dreams. Do you want to share, like a cool lucid dream? Maybe one of your favorites or one that you kind of had queued up to talk about? I'd love to hear about, like what your thought process is like as you get lucid, like what goes through your head.
00;18;00;05 - 00;18;34;06
Unknown
Okay. Yeah. Perfect. So I have so for the longest my goal was to learn how to fly. I did that, I mastered that, and then it was like shapeshifting. So when I say shapeshifting, I mean, like turning into different animals, making myself a giant, all types of things. Right? And then I got that on the other groups and then that went to, building, like, like worlds, essentially, like making trees and bushes and flowers and buildings and stuff like that.
00;18;34;08 - 00;19;01;18
Unknown
And then it went off to me wanting to directly connect with my higher self. Right. So most recently, I had I had these two dreams that were like, incredible. So the first one I'm in, I have a false awakening and I'm in my brain and I go into the living room. But when I go into the living room, my living room is different.
00;19;01;18 - 00;19;36;23
Unknown
I'm like, oh wait, just this is a dream. And I look and there's like a bunch of art on the wall, and I know that it's my art. And I'm like, oh, this is cool. I'm like, okay, great. And I go, my wife, my daughter go into the bedroom and I go to follow them. But when I go into the bedroom, they're like instantly sleep, but they're sleeping the corner and our mattress is a air mattress that's flat, and it's a white air mattress that's completely deflated.
00;19;36;25 - 00;20;00;08
Unknown
And my wife and daughter asleep in the corner snoring. So I'm just like dreams. So I go back out to the living room and when I go, it's a liberal, not so. I'm not. I'm dreaming. I'm saying, let me have fun. Let me do something. So I say the lights never working change for me. So when I hit the light switch, it don't work and I'm like, yeah, I'm definitely dreaming this 100% certain dream.
00;20;00;10 - 00;20;19;14
Unknown
So playing around, I just say, let there be light to see if it's going to happen, to see if the light is going to turn off and it doesn't, at least not right away. Three seconds later, a row of candles start to shoot on like two candles on the floor. Pop up, up up up up up, up, up.
00;20;19;16 - 00;20;51;06
Unknown
And it's leaning. It leads me my vision over to the corner where there's a, altar similar to the, shelf that I have in my living room. But it's on the opposite side, and it's, it's a ancestral altar now, so I'm like, oh, shoot, that worked. So I'm looking over in the corner and I see a picture frame one on top of the the altar, and the picture frame is me when I was about 8 or 9 years old.
00;20;51;09 - 00;21;15;28
Unknown
And then it starts to shift into my, April and then to my cousin Rob. And it's just like the the picture is just blending, emerging from different people in my family. I'm like, whoa. So I'm like, okay. So now I'm like, now I'm I and treat them like. So I ask to drink my answer a lot. I say, do you have a message for me now?
00;21;15;28 - 00;21;36;00
Unknown
My wife comes running up the room full speed ahead like most, like, you saying get out, you know? Yeah, but she's running rampant. She ran to me like that, and I'm standing my ground with what the hell is going on? And she stops right in front of my face and she goes, I have a message for you.
00;21;36;02 - 00;21;57;24
Unknown
Follow me. But at this point, I'm like, oh, shit. I'm like, no, if I can trust this, like, what's going on? So I start, I start praying, I'm like, Lord, please don't let this be something that can hurt me or some of God's, like what I said, but I'm like praying that this is something that's going to turn out bad.
00;21;57;26 - 00;22;16;21
Unknown
She turns and looks over her shoulder like, I can't believe you said that look on her face. And I just wake up. So I woke up. I'm like, dang, I probably missed my opportunity to meet my higher self. So now I have another dream the next night. And in this dream, I'm doing like DoorDash deliveries, which I don't do DoorDash anymore.
00;22;16;23 - 00;22;36;05
Unknown
So I go to I'm walking with the food and I'm like, where's the address? So I go up to look at the street sign and the words start doing some weird stuff. I'm like, oh, this is a dream. So someone walks by and just smacks my phone out my hand. I'm like, this is absolutely a dream now. So I'm like, okay, let's have fun again.
00;22;36;07 - 00;22;57;28
Unknown
So I say out loud again, I want to meet my higher self. So now. And, someone that I don't know, some random black woman with braids is across the street, and she does that thing that my wife did in the previous year, and she's running at full speed. But this time I'm like, okay, I can stand my ground again.
00;22;58;01 - 00;23;16;24
Unknown
But when she gets closer to me, she kind of like, just give me a loving hug and breaks. And it seems like a long lost family member, like someone I haven't seen in a while. And it's like, we're good, we're happy to see one another. Right? So I'm like, okay, this is cool. You know? It doesn't feel romantic, but it kind of felt a little bit romantic.
00;23;16;26 - 00;23;39;08
Unknown
But not you know what I mean? I don't know how it feels. Right. But it felt like it was it felt like love lost or something like rekindled love or something. And, I'm like, oh, so my higher self is a black woman. Whatever. So I'm like, so, I saying, do you have a message for me? And she starts to mouth, she's mouthing words, but I can't hear.
00;23;39;08 - 00;24;05;21
Unknown
She's like, I'm like, I can't hear you. And she goes, she goes into, she goes into some bag and she she's sifting through things. I'm looking at the bag and it's like a single piece of paper in there. And, she goes, you have to cut your beard. And I go, what? My beard. I cut my beard just recently, and I hated the way my face looked.
00;24;05;23 - 00;24;26;23
Unknown
And I tell her that, and she shakes her head and she goes and pull that single paper off the back. And on the paper is a yellow worm. And she says, you have to defeat the worm. And I'm like, what the hell? And then she goes away. And then now I have to go to this place where I have to fight this worm.
00;24;26;25 - 00;24;50;13
Unknown
And when I go to this place, there's several other dream characters in there, but there's there's so familiar to me, and I feel like I may have had drinks with them before, but then these conversations with certain people, I'm like, y'all remember you from last year? It's like, yeah, man, I'm back again. I got in trouble with the law last year and this and that, and it's like some martial arts guy and I'm like, I got that book you let me borrow so you can have it.
00;24;50;15 - 00;25;09;05
Unknown
I forget the name of the book. It's on my, it's on my journal. But he was the name of a book, and I'm like, okay, cool. So now we have to go to this match and there's like, you remember the floor is lava from. Yeah. Good game. So it was like a floor is lava type situation is me and a bunch of other people.
00;25;09;05 - 00;25;31;08
Unknown
And I was like this warm going around random. We have to avoid the worm. And it's like the first level. So it's like an easy level. And before I get the chance to beat this level, some guy comes through the door at these steps above from where we are, and his eyes are like four feet long and he's looking around like this.
00;25;31;10 - 00;25;50;12
Unknown
I'm like, yo, don't let his eyes touch you or see to the rest of the people. And everyone's like ducking and fighting from him. And I'm like, yo, what the hell are you? So I leave out so I don't the chance to fight. The one thing I leave out and I go to like some type of, like some diner, some like some little tiny following the war diner.
00;25;50;15 - 00;26;10;21
Unknown
And I'm talking, I mean, and I'm looking at the people. They're in the food. I'm like, this is a little. It seems like all the people there are like, locals. And, like, they go there all the time. And this is black guy. He's like talking. He's like he says. And then he says, Columbus says you gotta get your land back.
00;26;10;24 - 00;26;30;21
Unknown
I'm like, what the? So I wake up from that dream and when I wake up, I'm like, what the hell does this mean now? So I write everything down and I'm reading over it and I'm like, she said, I gotta come up here. It took me like three days to figure this out. So I'm like, because I was intrigued by the fact that my higher self was a black woman.
00;26;30;21 - 00;26;56;24
Unknown
But anyhow, so what? She said, you have to cut your beard. And I'm like, can't be literal. So when I figured out that what that meant was, I have to stop hiding behind something else and be my true self. I have to be authentic and not hide behind a certain image or something like that. So the beard, I looked at it and it's like, when someone has a beard, it's like a cover up.
00;26;56;27 - 00;27;13;24
Unknown
There's like, you have to cut your beard. So I'm like, okay, so that means I have to be more authentically me. Cool. I get that now. What was that? That worm. Now for the worm part, I did have to look up, I have to do some research. On what the. Yeah, what the color yellow means and dreams.
00;27;13;24 - 00;27;43;18
Unknown
And what a worm was symbolize. So what I came to the conclusion is that the yellow worm is something, something that's feeding off of my energy. So some type of, I guess. Leech or something that's feeding off my energy. So she told me that I have to defeat the worm is something ancestral. I believe that's hindering me from being my so self.
00;27;43;18 - 00;28;03;17
Unknown
Or to have the exposure that I really want in life. And once I get rid of that, I can proceed to be what it is. And I'm called to be a powerful dream with some really good imagery. I love how you kind of, you know, have this approach of analyzing it and, you know, dreams are usually not literal.
00;28;03;24 - 00;28;23;07
Unknown
It can be, it can be, but usually it's got some weird metaphors and simulations in there. But I love how, like, you had your, you know, ancestors and loved ones all kind of supporting you on that dream. So that's cool. And you said something that made me think, like, do you ever have dreams that are like continuing the same story?
00;28;23;13 - 00;28;52;06
Unknown
Or like when you create these worlds, when you're lucid, are they like the same when you come back like consistently, like when you every time you add more to it, you know, that's a great question. And yeah, absolutely. So there's there's like a map. It's a like a map. And my dream in my dream worlds where even if I haven't been there in a while, if I go back there and things are still in the same or this thing organized the same way, I'm just like, you know, that's pretty cool.
00;28;52;06 - 00;29;14;20
Unknown
Like there's like a map in my mind of the dream world. So yeah, there are several times where I've had similar dreams with similar surroundings and familiar settings, and I'm just like, yo, that's crazy. So yeah, that's definitely absolutely. Yeah. It's fascinating how the brain works and how we can remember things in store so much without us even realizing.
00;29;14;23 - 00;29;29;22
Unknown
Yeah, I think that's so cool. And you also mentioned that you have kids or a daughter. I don't know if you have more kids, but do you teach your kids about dreams or like, do they ever talk to you about their dreams? Like, what's that like as a parent? I don't have kids, but I imagine it must be kind of fun to teach them about this dreamy stuff.
00;29;29;24 - 00;29;54;01
Unknown
Yeah, definitely. My daughter's two years old and she's already dreaming, so, And I know she's dreaming because I seen her, like, moving in her sleep a bunch of times. So, I asked her one time, what did you dream about? And she would tell me this. Yeah. Like it's a dream that she does every day. It seems like what she did, she stopped having it, but it was,
00;29;54;07 - 00;30;13;08
Unknown
She would dream of butterflies and fishes. She would say. I dreamed of blue butterflies and red fishes. I'm like, okay, okay. And she also had this thing where she says that, she had the black, the lens. I'm like, you have the black lens. I'm like, can you show me where the lenses? And she would point up to the ceiling.
00;30;13;11 - 00;30;32;28
Unknown
And I said, how do you block it? And she goes like this. I said, that's how you block the lens. And I'm like, this is interesting because you're going to. So she can't really, you know, tell me exactly how I would better for me to understand. So I would ask her, like, is the lens nice to you? And she's like, yes.
00;30;32;28 - 00;30;51;03
Unknown
I'm like, okay, so you like the lens? Yes. I'm like, and you have to block it. She's like, yeah, she's laughing. She's doing like this. I have to block the lens and it's always a brown lens. So after like maybe a week of asking her about her dreams and his lens stuff, one day she woke up. No prompting.
00;30;51;03 - 00;31;08;27
Unknown
She just like, the lens is blue now. I'm like, what the. I'm like, okay, is it better? And she she then really response that is a better thing. She's just like, it's blue. I'm just like, okay, cool. Do you have to block it? And she's like, yeah. And that's just like there's two lenses and she's like black.
00;31;08;27 - 00;31;25;17
Unknown
And I'm just like, wow, I can't wait till she gets a little older. So where we can really have conversations about these dreams now that's so cute. I love that she has you there to support and like give her the language for it, even if she doesn't fully understand it yet. Because children are such natural dreamers. I mean, you know, you get it.
00;31;25;17 - 00;31;45;27
Unknown
We learn to be lucid at a young age. So like having that support is key. Like when she starts knowing that she's in a dream and trying different things and conquering her fears. It's going to be awesome to watch. Yeah, I can't wait. That's super cool, I love it. Awesome. So any other like, cool, memorable dream experiences that you've had over the years?
00;31;45;27 - 00;32;08;07
Unknown
Because I know as a lucid dreamer when someone's like, oh, tell me a cool dream you've had. I have like hundreds that I can share. Like it's so hard to pick. Do you have like the top contender of ever lucid, like all your dreams? Top contender, I mean, besides the one meet my higher self. And learning about this yellow worm and cut my beard.
00;32;08;09 - 00;32;27;12
Unknown
I think, when I was younger, this dream stands out to me right now at the top of my mind, when I was younger. Main route eight or between 8 and 10 years old. I had this dream where I'm walking around my local neighborhood and I come across a castle, and castle was like, scary. But I'm like, I'm going to go there anyway.
00;32;27;14 - 00;32;48;17
Unknown
And there's like these statues, like these gargoyles outside the the, the castle doors, the door, the door's open. There's no door. It's just like an entrance entryway. And, I go inside and then this and then this. I'm thinking, like, maybe the gargoyles are going to, like, turn into something and try to attack me, but they never do.
00;32;48;19 - 00;33;10;02
Unknown
But I go inside and in the center, on the in the center of the castle is a golden library. So the floor is gold. The bookshelves is for gold. The books are gold, the pages of the books are gold. When I go into the library and I see another little girl there, and she's going through the books, and I'll meet her.
00;33;10;09 - 00;33;28;09
Unknown
And this is where I thought it, the phrase dream girl comes from, it's like a girl that you dream of and that you become friends with. Yeah, I'm I'm 8 or 9 years old, so I'm like, I'm thinking that that's what the dream girl, I was like, I found my dream group. And, so I'm talking to her and we become friends, essentially.
00;33;28;09 - 00;33;46;07
Unknown
Right. And like, so it becomes a recurring dream. So I tell her I'm going to come back here again tomorrow night to meet you. And she was like, okay, cool, I'll be here. I go, I have the dream again. I go in there, I meet her, we're laughing, we're hanging out, and I'm like, yo, I found my girlfriend of my dreams.
00;33;46;07 - 00;34;05;01
Unknown
This is my girl now. So the second dream, she says I won't be able to come back to the library anymore. And I go, why? She goes, because we're moving. I'm like, this is a dream. You don't have to move. You can just come back to the library. And she's like, no, we like we really have to move.
00;34;05;03 - 00;34;24;13
Unknown
And then she goes, can you walk me home? So I walk her home. And her family is the the cast from Roseanne like her mom is Roseanne. I'm just like, what the heck? So I'm walking home. She goes and she says, by the next day I go in. So and so the cast went to the library again. She's nowhere to be found.
00;34;24;16 - 00;34;49;15
Unknown
So I go the way that she taught me how to walk her home. When I get there, it's just a fire escape in a brick wall. It's like, so she's not. I'm like, her house is like completely gone. I'm just like, wow, she really left and her house is gone. So I'm a little sad now. I'm like, dang, I lost the girl of my dreams and of I didn't go back to that castle for several years.
00;34;49;17 - 00;35;06;26
Unknown
And so I became a teenager and I went back as a teenager. But I didn't want to go inside. I just looked at it and was like, wow, it's still there. Like we talked about, the dream mapping on my wall was still there and I went and did something else. So and that's awesome. I love that you have decades and decades of cool dream stories.
00;35;06;26 - 00;35;30;09
Unknown
I just like, love hearing about people's adventures. Do you ever get like, ideas for like, comedy or work or whatever, you know, real life things in your dreams that you're like, oh, like I'm going to use that. And then you like, wake up and turn it into reality. Yeah. You know what? So for a long time I always think of like, how can I take something from my dream and make it, usable and waking life?
00;35;30;09 - 00;35;55;20
Unknown
Right. And there's been songs that I've gotten my dreams, but then when I, I go to my waking state and I don't fully realize what the melody was or what the lyrics were, and I'm like, yo, I know I had the best song in the world and I just can't do it. But, recently I did turn one of my dreams into like a funny comedy sketch, and it was a it was a dream I had about Mike Tyson.
00;35;55;22 - 00;36;11;11
Unknown
So I dreamed about Mike Tyson, breaking up a fight between me and some guy who was trying to, like, beat me. I'm trying to make, like, a song on some weed, and he's trying to steal the weed from me. And Mike Tyson's like, hey, leave him alone. I'm just like, you know, how are you defending him? He's trying to steal from me.
00;36;11;14 - 00;36;31;05
Unknown
And he's like, he has like, this fur coat on with no shirt, and it's just nipples are just exposed and, like, pointy as heck. I'm just like, what the heck's going on? But it it it was a dream. So I turn that into a comedy sketch for, for TikTok. But what was interesting about that dream with Mike Tyson is when I realized I was dreaming.
00;36;31;08 - 00;36;50;29
Unknown
So I asked him, I said, Mike, what's your zodiac sign? And he goes, I'm a Leo. So when I woke up, I immediately look up his natal chart. I'm like, he's not a Leo. But I look at his whole chart. He has a lot of Leo influence. I'm like, oh shoot, that's crazy that I never met him before.
00;36;51;01 - 00;37;08;05
Unknown
I don't know his natal chart. For me, asking him on the dream of him saying that he's a Leo and then finding out that he's not a Leo sun, but he has a lot of Leo influences. Chart. I'm like, yo, that's amazing. That is cool. I love finding out things from dreams and and they've make connections later on.
00;37;08;07 - 00;37;25;11
Unknown
I mean, I think that's pretty powerful, especially because, you know, if you know astrology, you know, all the other placements matter too. You know, it's not just the sun. So I think that's a pretty cool win. So like, not everybody is a natural, you know, childhood lucid dreamer like us, which I get it's a blessing to be a natural, I think.
00;37;25;11 - 00;37;44;16
Unknown
Not a lot of people have that. So like, do you have any advice for people learning to lucid dream as an adult? Maybe they're getting into it like later in life? Yeah, definitely. My advice is the same for anything that someone is trying to do is just stick to it. If it's important to you, make time for it.
00;37;44;19 - 00;38;08;19
Unknown
But to be more specific, dream journaling is definitely, absolute. Like you have to record your dreams because even if you do go lucid and you don't remember it, what's the point? You can't share the memory because you you lost it. So writing down your dreams is essential to going lucid, because you you signify in your brain that it's important to remember by writing it down.
00;38;08;21 - 00;38;31;00
Unknown
So keeping a dream journal is necessary. Doing reality checks is necessary so that you can, you know, you can be aware when you're dreaming or not, and doing reality checks, like often every time you walk through a door or just like every 15 minutes, do something like turn off and on the light or, you know, check your hands, make sure you don't have 17 fingers, check the time.
00;38;31;06 - 00;38;49;26
Unknown
Things that you should be able to read. And, if you do that often enough, you'll start to realize that when you're in a dream, things are operating like they would in waking life. So I think that's the best way to start is just doing dream checks and writing down dreams. Yeah, that's pretty solid advice, I would agree.
00;38;49;26 - 00;39;12;23
Unknown
You know, and especially the dream journaling. You know, you find patterns and dream signs which can help you kind of notice things more. And I also just tell people, like, all your dreams matter, you know, it's a relationship with yourself that you're getting into. So, you know, some people kind of just get tunnel vision with lucidity. But I want to remember all my dreams because I want to, like, have this data for my subconscious about, like, what's going on in my brain.
00;39;12;23 - 00;39;33;00
Unknown
So I just think it's like a cool practice in general. Yeah. And by the way, have you ever seen this movie Waking Life? It's on Amazon. That's what I did. Top five dream movies of all time on TikTok. Oh, yeah. Like me. Like, I think I put that number three, if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, that's a great movie.
00;39;33;02 - 00;39;52;28
Unknown
Yeah. So I'll have to follow you on TikTok. What's your where can people find you? What are your links? So I am Daryl Digital on all platforms. That's that's my thing. Can I change my name to that? Actually, let me do that. Oh, it might be too late, but I can do it in editing. Okay, cool.
00;39;52;28 - 00;40;13;25
Unknown
So, yeah, I am Daryl Digital or one word. Awesome. Cool. I'll definitely include your links. Following you on TikTok also because I make a lot of content on there too. And I love connecting with other podcasters, especially, people with cool dreams. So yeah, thanks for sharing and telling me about your your dream adventures. Yeah, of course.
00;40;13;25 - 00;40;37;04
Unknown
Thanks for having me. Are most of your content dream base? Yes, mostly dream base. I also am into just consciousness in general. What's going on with the research? Dream adjacent things like meditation, science and spirituality. But mostly I just love talking to people about their dreams. Like, advanced lucid dreamers like yourself and also sometimes researchers or sometimes newbies getting into it.
00;40;37;10 - 00;40;53;01
Unknown
I just think it's an important conversation to have in general and to normalize, especially for people getting into like finding out what their dreams mean or like looking at this information, I just want to be like a resource for that. So I also teach people how to lucid dream, which is what I'm into. I love doing that.
00;40;53;04 - 00;41;16;15
Unknown
I think it's something everybody should try and is able to do. So yeah, that's that's what I do. Okay. Awesome. Is there anything particular that you've learned recently that like, blew your mind about dreams or metaphysics, man, that, you know, technology is really, really advancing and it's always blowing my mind more and more, the things that people are doing, I don't know.
00;41;16;15 - 00;41;38;11
Unknown
I don't know in specific. I'm always keeping up with different studies, but I do think that very soon, based on the technology that's out there, you know, we're going to be able to like, see deeper into dreams, like whether it's, you know, see more than just like like right now science is based on like the brain activity and what's going on in the brain, you know, but maybe one day we'll be able to, like, record dreams or something.
00;41;38;11 - 00;41;59;26
Unknown
I don't know, that's pretty sci fi and far out there, but I don't know. I think it's it's going into that direction. Yeah, I agree, I mean, I seen something recently where there was a science experiment where they had two lucid dreamers able to communicate with one another. They had a mess. They had like a single phrase that they were to share with the other person.
00;41;59;29 - 00;42;17;17
Unknown
And when they woke up, they were like, I got that message. I'm like, yo, that's if it's something I'm thinking of. I actually interviewed that guy on my podcast a couple of early back. Yeah, I'll send you the link. So he's cool and, I think it was from REM space and they basically kind of used the technology to communicate.
00;42;17;17 - 00;42;34;06
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're doing a lot of really cool work. Michael, we're doing it a guy. I've been into his work for like a while. He's pretty dedicated to what he does, and he's like looking into a lot of technologies and stuff. He implanted, like, a brain chip in his brain to, like, test it out and everything, like he's committed to the bit.
00;42;34;09 - 00;42;52;09
Unknown
But, yeah, people are doing this stuff, you know? And obviously, like, we need more peer reviewed studies. We need more of this type of research. We need more funding. So it's still early on in those days. But but it's happening. People are researching it and adjacent things to like near-death experiences and out-of-body experiences. I think all that is interesting.
00;42;52;13 - 00;43;10;26
Unknown
And it's going to give us like new perspectives on like, what is consciousness, what what's, Yeah, what a time to be alive. I know, right? I know I'm trying to keep up. So yeah, we'll see how the next ten years goes. I'm going to be here as a resource to like, update people on, like, you know, the latest studies and things going on.
00;43;10;26 - 00;43;33;29
Unknown
I go to like dream research conferences and things like that. So okay. And I have another question for you. Are you the sleep mask earplugs type of dreamer? No, I don't use sleep mask or earplugs. I've experienced earplugs. I've experimented with them like certain sleep masks that like have lights and things that are supposed to help with lucid dreaming.
00;43;34;02 - 00;43;56;10
Unknown
But now I don't use any of that. I sleep anywhere, like I'm blessed in that. Like I could sleep on the airport floor and still have vivid dreams like, okay, yeah. Do you find yourself able to go lucid easier when you dream in the daytime or at night? For me, my prime is in the morning, like my later REM periods between like six and 8 a.m..
00;43;56;15 - 00;44;12;25
Unknown
That's when I have the most lucid dreams. If I take a nap, though, in the middle of the day, it is easy. Pretty easy to for me to get lucid. Not not 100%, but more more consistent. But still, those later REM periods where I'm still more sleepy enough to go back into the dream and sleep for another two hours.
00;44;13;01 - 00;44;36;11
Unknown
I have the most lucid dreams, most of my lucid during that period, right? Yeah. Same here, same there. Definitely. Yeah. It's cool. Over the years to just track my sleep and see what works like. I've spent a lot of time trying different techniques and, you know, technologies, binaural beats, sleep sounds, all these different things which are cool. You know, it's fun to experiment, but, Wake Back to Bed is kind of my best type of technique.
00;44;36;11 - 00;44;56;18
Unknown
And also, like you said, just that daily waking life awareness like that contributes most to my lucidity. You know, I don't get lucid like three times a week, one, two, three, depending. I also used to smoke a lot of weed, so that stopped me from having dreams for a while, which was sad for me. But I still keep a dream journal, like religiously.
00;44;56;18 - 00;45;15;28
Unknown
Like every day I use like a voice recorder, dream app, combination methods stuff. Okay, and you say you track your sleep. Are you using a you sleep cycle to track my sleep? I have like a little Fitbit thing that I use, and I don't use it all the time because I kind of hate wearing it, but it just tells me, like when I'm in REM sleep and stuff.
00;45;15;28 - 00;45;34;22
Unknown
And so I think like a little report. Okay. Yeah. You didn't sleep in dreams, but that's so important. It really is. Because if we don't get enough sleep as a society, we just turn into shitty people. And, like, resting is like the most important thing we can do for ourselves and our future. And I think a lot of us are sleep deprived.
00;45;34;24 - 00;45;58;09
Unknown
So that's true. And I say the most car accidents are not because of drunk drivers. It's because of sleep deprived people. True. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. We need to get our dream time in. It's really important. I'm going to agree more. Yeah, well, that's all the questions I had to talk about today. I appreciate you for chatting. And, sharing your journey.
00;45;58;11 - 00;46;10;25
Unknown
Definitely do a part two at some time in the future and catch up. So I love to do that. Thanks for having me. All right. Sounds good.
00;46;10;27 - 00;46;23;03
Unknown
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