In this episode we hear some encouraging stories of what God is doing in the province of Quebec. Paul also shares some needs that Quebec churches and leaders have as well as the partnership opportunities available for churches outside the province to participate in.
While good things are happening, much more needs to be done. Please pray for workers, leaders and funding so we can see many more disciple-making communities started in Quebec!
In this episode we hear some encouraging stories of what God is doing in the province of Quebec. Paul also shares some needs that Quebec churches and leaders have as well as the partnership opportunities available for churches outside the province to participate in.
While good things are happening, much more needs to be done. Please pray for workers, leaders and funding so we can see many more disciple-making communities started in Quebec!
Welcome to the Multiply Network podcast, a podcast created to champion church multiplication, provide learning and inspire new disciple making communities across Canada. Hi there, welcome to the Multiply Network podcast. My name is Paul Fraser. So glad you jumped on today. I don't know where in the world you're listening to this podcast, but I hope it's better weather than what we have in Edmonton right now in November 2020. I'm staring at two feet of snow in my front yard. So I hope you're well. I hope you're enjoying some good weather. And you can sit down and listen to this great interview. We interview Paul Tetreault. Our focus is on Quebec district this month, and Paul Tetreault works at the district office. He oversees church multiplication. He's working with leaders and planters, connecting with them every single day. He's got a fantastic support system that they have developed in their leadership. And he shares some encouraging stories about what God is doing in Quebec. He also talks about opportunities. Part of the reason we're doing this podcast is to bring awareness to some of those opportunities for planters, for leaders, for churches, for partnerships. And lastly, Paul shares a burden for the people of Quebec. Let's remember our churches and leaders and the district of Quebec in this season. You're going to love this interview and it's coming up right now. Thanks, Paul, for jumping on the Multiply Network podcast today. Hey, it's a pleasure. Really happy to be with you. It's so great to have you. Why don't you tell us a little bit about your ministry role and how it relates to church planting in the great district of Quebec. Well, my ministry role, I'm the assistant to the superintendent for a district of Quebec, we have about 110 churches and I've been in this role for since the district was three --- back in 2000. So I'm on the long haul. So but the good side of it is I, I know well, our workers, I know well our province. And so the proximity is good through the years. And so my role has evolved a lot through the years. I would say in the last 10 years, my role has been really defined to my giftings and to the values of our district. So basically the main thrust of my role as the assistant to the superintendent is giving support- coaching, mentoring, systems, to encourage an environment for for all our pastors, especially first time pastors, our church planters in the last four years -- I'll talk about that more later --- and our ministries, support to all ministries, even the youth ministry. I'm still leading a paradox team, a dream team. I'm not the director, but the -- I'm still there and I'm still involved in the youth conference and all that stuff. So, like Paul (laughter) Imagine! I'm fifty nine! It's amazing. That is so great that you're still involved, but that -- If you know Paul Tetreault, you know that he's very young at heart, has a passion for young people. Amazing. What been the toughest part of leading and covid. Obviously Quebec has been in the news, probably not for the not for great reasons as it relates to covid; feeling the pressure of a breakout again, in the second wave. We're doing a 'what we're learning series' with leaders in the last couple of months, in covid. What's been the toughest part in during covid for you? How are you navigating this very unusual season? Well, it's --- The answer is positive and negative at the same time on the same issue. And the biggest challenge for me is that for now, the last five years, we've built up so much spiritual learning communities for new pastors, future mentors, future coaches, and all that was done in small groups of 12 to 13 over a span of time. And then you have your triads and then you have your personal one to one coaching, mentoring and stuff, getting support. Because our district is really, really relational. We focus on one on one ministry, coaching, mentoring. So the support for those who want to is really there and it's of quality. So with covid in Quebec, because of the context, no more spiritual learning communities, like, we have to do it through Zoom. But Zoom is not effective for our goals and objectives of being vulnerable, to be close to one another, talk about the real issues at a level where you need to be face to face in a small trust area. Like you can do it in Zoom, a one on one, but you can't do it three, four people or 12 or 15. It's not the same level. And so we've put on hold -- and I'm really frustrated about that -- I've put on hold. We just canceled our last mentoring second -- our fifth cohort --- it was their second session. I thought we were going to be OK. Two months ago, we had only 15 people, our teachers. A three day in-house. It was already, everything was was done. And then last week we called everyone and sent an email to everyone saying, hey, we have to put it back next summer. So that's the frustrating part. The flip side of it is, I've never been more involved one on one coaching and mentoring our pastors and key leaders in our district. And it's such a blessing. It's such-- To be there alongside our workers in key stresses, key decision making, and just being alongside and being a mentor and a coach, has been a real blessing. So the one on one on Zoom is OK. We can do a great job, but everything else, the spiritual learning communities, which is a key to the growth of our district and to sustain leadership in our district is just not there. And that is frustrating. And that's I mean, that is one of the things that that you guys in your district and just in your relational learning communities and spiritual communities, you do so well. That's been a new thing that you've implemented the last number of years; has produced tremendous fruit. I love the fact that you guys are super relational. Why don't you just tell us, you know, obviously not betraying confidences, but what are some of the things you're hearing back from the pastors in the one on one? Like how is how are they out on the front lines of ministry in covid? Well, what I'm hearing from our french pastors, english pastors, cultural communities and also across Canada is basically the same stuff, the same challenges and the same blessings. I think now the big thing with the second wave was the oomph, or the energy of going through the first wave in Quebec was there. Like it was like we're going to go through this. There was a sense of energy and you had to create new things, create --- Like all our churches, smaller churches, rural churches, all got on the bandwagon for virtual meetings and getting people and making sure people can connect with them on Zoom or Facebook Live or even through the phone and making sure they're talking to all the needs and all the people in their church right to date. So all that stuff is really good. And our pastors were tired at the end of the first wave, and we told them in the summer, take a break, take a vacation, please. And we even -- our leadership team made preaches. And we put it on the web and so they could take a vacation and take our preaching there on their French and English. So that was great. So our pastors were able to take vacation in the summer, and then we came to the fall. And then to the fall, everything is opened up. Everything is like normal. We're starting anew. And they're starting to gather again and bam, it stops. And then in that second wave, which is about now for a month ago now, the discouragement is high, the energy level is low. So that's been the challenge for a lot of our pastors. Our churches are doing well through covid. I guess it's like that across Canada. It's those who have been relational. Those who have been in close proximity in one on one contact with their leaders, their volunteer workers and their people that are in need in their church. The churches that were really close, proximity wise and relationship wise with their people, they're doing great in the covid. Those who were only attraction model - I'm not against an attractional model. We have great churches are attractional. But they are practical and relational. Those who are only attraction are really-- had a hard time and the pastors are suffering more. You make it you make an excellent point about this idea of being relational. The churches -- And that's right across Canada. The churches that have leaned back into that relational, more of that like smaller group, missional community, spiritual community type of model. It really is kind of pandemic proof -- If we're in small groups like our houses, or tables or, you know, places that you can meet in the community. It really is pandemic proof if you focus on relationship first. But here's the bad side about the second wave when I'm hearing. Especially with the young adults. They are tired of zoom, so tired out, that they're not wanting one on one relationship, even small group relationship. And so there is a -- we say it in French -- it's like we're tired of this. Like, we don't want this anymore. So it's like, now the challenge in the second wave is to get that second breath of fresh air, back in relational. But some are really discouraged and some don't even want to go there. So there's a really a sense -- you half the church in Quebec, I guess it's like that across Canada, half the church and their personality, they need to be with someone face to face, and the other half doesn't really care.(laughter) They're OK with Zoom or Facebook Live. But also, attendance, even the virtual, between the first wave and the second wave - and I heard it's like that in Canada also- we had small churches that had up to six thousand views once a week! What?! We had great we have great stories. I'll share a later. But when the second wave hit, they dropped half. And our mega churches in Quebec of other fellowships, they dropped in half. English, French. So there's the 30 percent of people that were - the only connection they had to the local church was the virtual; just passive listening - they're gone. They're gone. They're not there. Wow. That is very interesting. Those that were just kind of, you know, having appetizers. You know, just taking a little bit. I actually think that, you know, forcing us online could hurt us. And I think it is. We're starting to see the ripple effect of it. It's actually not --- how do I phrase it --- It's adding to the consumerism, right, because now I don't even have to get out of bed. Like, I can watch. I can just be -- I can watch church. I have to go to church. I don't have to serve at church. I don't have to. Yeah. I think we're going to have a harder time getting people offline than we had getting online. So the key here -- I'm in a small church. I joined a church plant of eight years ago in Quebec, a small French church, and I changed church three years ago, because of what happened with my daughter when she passed away. We just had to, we felt we needed to move from church. And so it was my first time leaving my home church that was there for many, many, many years; was like feeling so comfortable there. And joining a relatively old or new church plant, and a small church that's focus on coaching and mentoring. And so as I joined that church, one thing that's the key is our small church, highly relational. But even if it's highly relational, in the second wave we were able to go over that bump that we're talking about, because all the small group leaders, all the leadership, the 20 people out of the hundred, they're calling people. They're asking let's have a dessert over a Zoom on Friday night. I have it scheduled tonight. So it's like people are after me. I'm after people. So you have to really press that button of being very intentional about still- even if people don't want to be relational, you still invite them, you still go after them. You make them feel they're wanted. And if you do that, you're not going to lose too many people. That's a good word for pastors out there. Thanks, Paul. That's a really important thought. You've got to go after them. Yeah. Yeah. You got to leave the ninety nine. I don't know if we have ninety nine. I think it might be the thirty nine, but whatever you got to go after them, you've got to stay after. Let's transition. And why don't you tell us some of those exciting stories about church multiplication going on in Quebec. Oh I'm so blessed. We have a few and we're happy. They're the ones that keep us to say, oh God is moving. It's just the discouragement of apathy that we see in some people in the church. So one of the many stories, but one one that's on top of the list is we had a former credential holder that was really sick many years ago, and he was a church leader for us. He was in the Bible College working. He did our discipleship program. He did a great job through all the years. And he had a really bad back, really ailment that was really serious. And it came to a point where he couldn't work anymore. He was on long term disability and medication over the top. And just -- it was a back, his back, the state of his back was like a seventy year old man and he was in his thirties. So it was like debilitating and he was not able to do ministry. There's no way. Like, the suffering, the pain was so high all the time. So he had to leave ministry and he was with us and then he went to France. Got totally healed, like at a youth meeting with the Assemblies of God over there. They prayed over him. And he's not the guy after healings. Like he's Pentecostal, classical Pentecostal. He's not the guy that's going to look for it. He prayed for it, of course. But he got this warmth in his body. Couldn't believe it. It caught him by surprise. He went to play soccer the next day, didn't feel any ailment, backaches, anything. Like he said, what's going on? The next day, no backache. The next day he went --- When he came back to come back, went to see his doctor. Doctor said, you're healed. And he said, I don't understand what happened to you. It can happen. That healing that happened in your back can happen, but it would be at 60 years old. He's in his 30s or late 30s. And it would be, the healing would be over a span of 10 years where you would not feel any pain. It's like you lived it immediately, in one shot. And that happened like three, five, six years ago? Seven years ago? He's still totally healed. So, he comes back to come back to Quebec. But the toll of everything he went through, he had to take a break. So he went to another fellowship church, another denomination, a mega church, and just went to get back his strength, resource himself. And we blessed him. We released them. He went with our blessing. And we didn't -- we weren't mad. We weren't sad. We really thought it was God. So he went there and he became one of the top leaders in that church, top preachers in that church. And they offered him a great opportunity to be full time with them. And he refused. And then he visited the small church he was before he got really sick and left, he was at a small church north of Montreal. And it's a small church of thirty people. And goes there with this family, his teenager kids, and when they left that church many years before, it was not a good ending, like it was a bit of division and strife and that. So they go back. And it's like it was like a divine appointment. They go there and the people that were mad at them, they ask them forgiveness, they couldn't understand what going on, and then they came back in the car and the children were saying and the teenager that we're left in a bad situation many years before I said, That's our home Dad. And they felt, We're feeling called to this church. And so he us, he calls me, he calls, and says, is that church open? Yeah. Well, I feel like I think God's leading me to take that search. And he felt called and Michel Bisaillon, our superintendent did the transition. He got elected. And so he started the church right before covid with 30 people. Well it grew. It was four months before covid when he started. And it grew to -- from 30 to about one hundred. Within four months. And new salvations, people that didn't go to church, not a lot of transition, just a few, and it just grew and grew and then God's blessing. And the building now is too small. Long story short, they just sold the building. They're going to go in a bigger building and God's just moving through all that. That's the small church that went to six thousand views. Oh, really? So Hillsong Paris would call them. What are you doing? Like, how come you have so many views? And they dropped half with the second wave, like all the other big churches. But he says we're a small church doing big church, but we don't have the resources. Like, they do. They have a small team that's amazing. All young adults, the core, and they're doing great. So when the covid will come back and they'll have a place, the new normal, they have no clue if they'll be one hundred and fifty or three hundred or five hundred. But they're doing a great job. So that's that's multiplication in Quebec. Yeah. And that's a great story for some pastors out there in smaller towns that are thinking, Well, why is God calling me here. No, it's never been easier to impact our world than it is right now because you can use digital means and most - not everyone - but most of the people you're trying to reach are online. So you know, put the time, put the energy into it. That's amazing. I have another story I have to say. We just had the interview for his credentials yesterday. So this is a plant that started a week before covid. With 80 people, they had a strong nucleus of 80 people. He's a son of a credential holder, an evangelist and -- But he's a pastor. He's a pastor evangelist. And if covid would finish tomorrow, they're already grew from eighty to one hundred twenty. Now this church is a vagabond church. They didn't have any building. So when covid hit, they did their meanings out there in the park. Filmed everything in the park. And they moved from place to place. And they said they didn't phone anybody. It was just through Instagram and Facebook. They would say next week we're there. Or the next week we're there. And they were in a building and it canceled last minute, the Saturday, they sent the information. Next week we're at that church. Oh, really? Church to church all summer, moving from place to place all fall. And they grew from eighty to one hundred and twenty. Wow. So, here's a church with all the insecurity. And he said, people were blaming them because they were all stealing young adults from other churches. It's a city outside of Montreal. He says, it's funny. Our growth now is all with boomers. Boomers now are following us. I don't understand. (laughter). And new conversions. People who didn't go to church anymore, also not just transfers. So just --- So he --- And if there would be a church in Canada that wants to invest in Quebec, that's a church you could invest. And so we do have ministry opportunity, and if you call us, we do have needs to invest in key leaders that will do a great job in Quebec for multiplication. I want --- So for those of you who don't know Paul Tetreault, you have to understand, he's been there, obviously, a very long time. This has not always been the story of Quebec - of these types of churches starting up, growing, seeing new converts, seeing people far from God come to Him. Rural churches going really, really strong. Like this has not been Quebec story. This is why you're hearing him so excited. You should see him. Like, he's just beaming right now, as I look on the Zoom call on the video. This is good news, friends, of things happening in Quebec, and we thank God for it. Paul, you want to say one more thing before we move on? You know, one of the key across Canada, is we need planters. We need church leaders that do multiplication. Well, God's been doing now, sending missionaries to Quebec. Like we have this this guy from Kinshasa in Congo, paid by the Assemblies of God of Kinshasa, this big church, by the guy who's the head, pastor -- He was the head of the leadership of the Assemblies of God in Congo. So imagine a missionary paid by Kinshasa. Full salary. In Quebec, working in French. So he started the church two years ago. And also, I just want to tell you, church planters, we give them a cohort, we have a coach for them. We get them to be in teaching, in spiritual communities, where the way they learn about Quebec, how to do ministry to Quebecers, and all that. And it's over a two year span program. So we do take care of them. So this guy's been in the program for one year. And he -- With the covid, he went into volunteer work in the hospice for older people. There was an older Quebecer, lady. That -- we'll call her Therese, that's her first name, I won't say her family name. She had bad hurts on her legs for 50 years. It was not -- They couldn't heal it. It's really serious condition, medical situation. And he prayed for her. Like he would not -- he said, I don't tell them I'm a Christian. I just showed the care and I work differently. And then they ask question and then I answer. He does it the real Quebecois way of not going too fast, because sometimes people from Congo could go too fast with Quebecois. So he's learning to do it the right way. So he done it the right way. And he said, would you mind if I pray for your ailments? He prayed for her. Right away, in one day, half of it was all gone and in the following weeks, totally gone. Wow. She was totally healed. Thank you, Lord. She came to the Lord. She gave her heart to God. The kids who were unbelievers, the boy, the girl, they have met him a couple of times and they want to learn more about God. Before they were totally unbelievers, Qubecois unbelievers. And now he can witness the gospel to them because of a healing in the hospice where he works as a volunteer worker. So hey! God is moving. Yeah, come on. This is so great. And Paul, why don't you tell us a little bit, too, about some opportunities available for leaders in Quebec?
I think it's still true:Less than one percent of Quebec, Quebecois, Quebecers -- I can't -- Is that -- What's the right way to say it? Quebecers? Yeah, well, in English, I guess it's Quebecers, but...Quebecois would be the french version. Yeah, yeah. So there's opportunities there. But less than one percent are evangelical - I believe that's still the stat, although it sounds like it's growing. Yeah. The one percent is not totally true anymore. So let me just explain that quickly. You would have probably three percent of the population that would believe that Jesus is the savior. Half of them would go to a local church. So maybe it's over one percent today. OK, and so, attend on the regular basis at church, we're probably over one percent right now. And then on the Roman Catholic side, probably there's a one percent out of five practicing Catholics that do believe in Jesus as savior, and have some kind of relationship with Jesus as their savior. That would have a strong sense of evangelicalism in the way they speak about Jesus and their relationship with Jesus. So maybe there's two to three percent that do have an active relationship with Jesus. But going to church, we're still around the one percent. We're probably over the one percent right now. But it's still ninety seven percent of the population of Quebec does not know Jesus as savior and does not believe in Jesus as a savior. That's actually very helpful. Thanks for that clarity, because that's a stat that's probably ten years old or longer. Right? So thanks for your clarity. The reality is, like you said, ninety seven percent. Yes, that's pretty close to reality. Yes, ninety seven percent who do not know Jesus as savior. So there's opportunities for people from all over Canada to come and help you. English speaking. You can teach them French. Like, what are some opportunities? Because this month's focus for the Multiply Network is Quebec and seeing churches started, new disciple making communities. What are some opportunities, Paul? Well, we we're always welcoming church planters and God has been sending us church planters. So that's for sure one of the areas. Like three years ago, John Ippolito - who does church planting for the English side for the district, who is the secretary treasurer, who planted a church in Laval himself - and myself, we're the catalysts to make sure French and English church planters are cared for. So what we do is, three years ago, we put aside our priorities and we put church planting on top of the list and not on the bottom of the list. So time consuming for John and I, church painting has been way up. So the proximity to give support to future church planters is very high. So anybody that feels a call as a church planter, we do have a way to give support so you don't do ministry alone. And now we're working on English. Actually, we have a missionary from the States that just came into Quebec. One of his focus will be our cultural churches and English cultural churches to make sure we give the support to church planters. Also, he's going to be putting up our mentoring program that was in French, but not-- Because I just think he's bilingual. So people don't know this, but everything is double cost. Any district outside of Quebec - We're all distinct. Like all districts, are all different from each other. Quebec is not more distinct than others. We're all distinct. I understand that. But what Quebec is bilingual. So anything we do in French, the English needs to have it. If anything we do in English, we need to do in French. And in french you need to create the programs. So you have to have a lot of creativity, a lot of funds. You have to start from scratch many times or translate - and then that costs more money. So we are ready now. Church planters, as I said, we are welcoming them. Also through Fit4M with Gary Connors, Mission Canada, we do welcome any students, any endeavor, cross-cultural - like I know you're going to be talking about that with Gary - Any young people feeling just to come and visit Quebec and understand a bit more Quebec, the doors are wide open. And if some people want to minister in English, there are needs as big in English communities in Quebec as in French. The percentage of of people getting saved and need to be saved is as much in English community as in the French community, especially in Montreal. So we need French and English people that could come because the mission field is wide open. Now, the flip side to all those opportunities is that it's tougher. Like, you've got to count the cost. One of the things that discourages people in Quebec, when people come in Quebec and wants to show interest and they come in the opportunities, they come in and sometimes they go back home after one or two or three years - not all the time, but sometimes. And that is a discouragement for our people in Quebec because you need to count the cost before. So, yes, come and explore, you know, but once you've decided you would really want to come to Quebec and invest your life in the ministry in Quebec, really count the cost so you're here for the long haul, in French or English. So we just talked with one of our credential holders that with Mission Canada working University campus, and he's learning French. He's really working hard at it. And so he wants to-- he's ministering to our English campuses, now he wants to translate that in the future to go into French campuses where there's nothing. I mean, it's a ministry campus - in french there is nothing. So the door is wide open. So there's many opportunities. Yeah. Paul, this has been so good. And, you know, just this idea of, you know, opportunities but also support. I think some of our old church planting models where like, let's just throw somebody in a town and hopefully they create a disciple making community. There's so much support now from our district offices, even right across the board. I'm so proud of how they've transitioned to become more resource centered and I love that. And I know you guys are helping lead the way both in English and French. Paul, I'm going to switch up the questions here on you. How can we help? How can we partner? And then I'm going to end with that last question about your burden for Quebec. How can you help? Well, first of all, the same classical answer. Pray for us. Yes. Yes. Pray the Lord would send the workers in the mission field here. So that that would prayer would be -- It is a spiritual battle. And if we only think it's about human mobilization of leaders, we're missing the part. I mean, it's totally-- It's totally spiritual. It's a warfare. And prayer is the key. Couldn't agree more. Yeah. And so prayer is the biggest support. Also, we do need financial support. Districts like Ontario have a lot of resources, if you compare it to a small district, which is normal. Depending on the number of churches you have. So the smaller districts and we're one - we're in the mid size there - But for everything we need to do bilingual, it does take a lot of our funds. So funding. Any church multiplication and venues or opportunities for us is a need. So any financial help would be welcomed. And we can we can focus. If someone calls and says I want to invest in Quebec, well, we can give you all the different tracks where you could do that. And the last part is really workers. So anybody that feels called to Quebec, or wants to explore the calling to Quebec, again, the doors open through Fit4M Ministries. Mission Canada. So there's different opportunities like that in French and English. Of course, learning French would be, could be high on the -- Because Quebec is mainly French and so -- But there is a place for English only also. In Montreal the need as big. Those are the three avenues and that's not an new answer. But we are the three avenues that of course we need help. And there's also a fourth one, too. We have churches that partner with other churches. That become kind of prayer partners, financial partners. They share resources, they share learning. Why don't you just quickly talk about that? Yes. And we have about 20 that are active. So some of our latest church plants do have partners. And so if you want to partner with the church, we do focus on our church plants. And we had three church plants last year. We have four this year coming along. And so we have seven church plants, two partnerships that are active. But the other ones I sure would love to have like partners. And also we have smaller churches that need the partnership just to stay healthy as a small church in rural areas. Because a lot of our churches in Quebec are rural. And I guess it's like that across the country. But in a rural area, you lose your young people all the time. They go to the big city. So they go to Quebec City, they go to Montreal, and the church is condemned to grow, every year to stay at the same level. So it's very discouraging for a local church, rural area, because you're 50 -- well to stay 50, you're going to lose five. Well, you need to gain five to stay a 50. And that's like that every year. So we have a lot of churches that are staying the course, but they need a partner to sustain them, to help them to continue to focus on the mission to win people to the Lord so they don't go down in numbers and need to close the church one day. So really, help for even smaller churches is a great avenue for partnerships. Yeah. And so if you are interested in that, you can connect with Paul at the Quebec district office or John, or actually Michel, any of them. And they will they will find someone. Just in closing, Paul, why don't you share your burden, your heart for the people of Quebec? Yeah, I just wanted to leave you with the opportunity just to share that at the end. Well, the burden for Quebec, really, my biggest burden, that's me personally, is for the-- I don't know how to say it politically correct -- but our French white Quebecers. I don't know what the terminology, the right terminology should be for those, but we are -- It's a hard soil. Like, in some areas it's good and we're seeing results. But my heart is really for a move of God in the French Quebecer, for former Catholics, nonpracticing Catholics, they're the biggest part of our population and they don't know Jesus. They are very reticent to Jesus. The media for the last many, many, many years have been portraying the gospel as something very negative. So the burden is how do we reach them? How can we find a way to reach them and be effective to reach them? Because people that come here, even our African friend that came, that's trying to reach French Quebecois, he says It's hard, it's hard. Like, our cultural churches are growing, other cultural streams are growing, but the French unilingual French especially, they're harder to to read. So it could be discouraging. Some are coming to the Lord. There is growth and good stories. But overall in Quebec, the need to reach them and to find a way to better reach them is still a big question mark. So that is my biggest burden for Quebec. Paul, thanks for sharing that. That's something that gives us a focus. What you just shared gives us a focus on how to pray for Quebec. Paul, I so appreciate your time. I know you're busy. You're living on Zoom these days. It's not fun, but thank you for your investment in leaders, in church multiplication, in your district. Appreciate you jumping on today. It was really a pleasure and thank you. Thank you for giving the opportunity to share the burden and a picture Quebec.