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"The Wind Blows"| Episode #77 | Builder of All Things | Author’s Cut: Chapter Four | Full Episode w/ Richie Breaux

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Welcome to the Builder of All Things Podcast—where we go beyond the pages of the book and explore into the Author’s Cut! 🔥 Join Richie Breaux and Ray Bisnar as they break down each chapter in micro-episodes, giving you the behind-the-scenes insights, deeper wisdom, and real-life applications—just like a Director’s Cut for a book.

🌬️ When the Wind Blows: Calling, Timing & the Builder of All Things
This isn’t just a podcast episode—it’s a journey. A blend of testimony, wisdom, and Kingdom perspective, this chapter takes you from the mountaintops of Makailo to the doorways of destiny. Through powerful analogies, heartfelt storytelling, and biblical insight, Richie breaks open what it means to walk in your calling—even when the path is invisible, uncertain, or wildly unfamiliar.

🎙️ In this deeply personal and Spirit-filled episode:
* The Wind Analogy: How the unseen movements of God are just like the wind—felt but not always seen
* Jochebed’s Courage: A cinematic deep-dive into Moses’s mother and the divine timing of faith
* Business Nuggets: Why partnering with the Builder of All Things redefines how we view resources, money, and leadership
* Steve Jobs Parallel: What getting fired taught him—and us—about identity, vision, and starting over
* Your Doorway Moment: The power of walking through the “You Were Called” door—and realizing on the other side, it says “You Were Chosen”
* From Football to Fatherhood: How fear, failure, and faith formed Richie’s leadership journey—on and off the field
* Military Orders & the USS Chosen: A divine setup through a single choice that shaped the rest of his life

✨ Whether you're on the brink of something new, navigating storms, or just trying to understand your past—this episode reminds you:Nothing is wasted.The wind is blowing.You were chosen for this.
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Speaker 2:

The wind blows, just the wind in general, just thinking of like I was just this morning in the Makakilo Mountain wind, feeling it and thinking about it, knowing I was coming in here today and just feeling you could feel it. You know you could see things move from it, but you can't see it Right, unless it's mixed with, you know, smoke or sand or something you know to give it some substance, but you just don't. You don't see it and you don't know where it's coming from or where it's going. You know, and and it just reminds me a lot of how God's God is and how he operates, cause we don't see him tangibly like that of you know, of his entity, and we don't know what he's thinking sometimes and what he's going to do. And we were just talking about it this morning, man, like what was he going to do? And it's kind of like this journey of discovering of you know what he's doing.

Speaker 2:

And that's just what the wind is. It's got its origin and it comes across your path and then, if you join it, you can take it on. You know you can join that journey with the wind and a lot of times you know, as we do with the boat references being in a stream or anywhere, you know, even in the ocean. If you allow the sail and the wind to take you, you kind of can go on a really fun journey, a journey of revelation, you know, as you go, like um, and being downloaded as you go. So this chapter uh, the wind blows is just about the sale of our journey and discovering it as you go, you know, looking back and seeing where you've come from as well, and so, yeah, that's the essence of the wind yeah, visually, while you're talking about that, I'm just thinking about the stream and how that's.

Speaker 1:

the wind is such an interesting thing because there's nothing like it, like, like you said, it's invisible, you don't see it, but there's a force that's moving you, or that you can allow it to move you, or, you know, go with the flow and whatnot, and thank.

Speaker 2:

God for the wind man, because sometimes it gets hot in Makakilo and Kapolei and different parts of the island. Man, that wind can come in clutch.

Speaker 1:

But when you said Makakilo, I was like, yeah, it should be cold up there, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it gets a good breeze, man. Yeah, when you think about the wind, man, it's like can you imagine? I mean, there's some places on the planet that you probably feel like it feels the most stagnant. No wind, it's just like.

Speaker 2:

Lower levels Just for reference Maquilas of it's in couple couple a ish, but you go up the hill for people that don't know. Yeah, where our house is planted is exactly a thousand, uh feet, is it feet? Yeah, feet, above elevation of the ocean. So it's in a good, like where a hill turns into a mountain. Me and my wife had this like kind of. You know, sometimes we do this resourceful journey of like what's the difference between a hill and a mountain? It's a thousand feet, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's a thousand feet elevation, interesting, before a hill becomes a mountain.

Speaker 2:

So we were so excited to look up. Are we on? The hill or the mountain side of this mountain. And so we were exactly at like 1000 so we were like we're in there, but I think at the bottom of our driveway is like 998 yeah, so you're not so when I get in trouble she's like you better go down on the hill. Yeah, no, she's never said that. Maybe she will. We party on the, but then we go rest on the hill.

Speaker 1:

Steve Jobs is mentioned in here in the beginning of the portion, and Steve Jobs was a visionary from my perspective. I'm a fan of Apple products and whatnot, but his story is kind of nuts man. It's kind of from the ground up working in the garage, kind of deal. Yeah, talk about that portion for a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I was born in the eighties. Uh, you know, my my teenage years was in the nineties, so computers were just kind of being revealed and shared with us. I remember the first time a computer was really as a resource for us in high school, um, computer was really as a resource for us in high school. Um, we would go into the library to try the internet and stuff. And you know, actually even before that, I think, when I was in grade school, I remember they had us play this, uh, this game. Maybe you might help me on this one, michael, but it was like oregon trail. Does that sound right, oregon trail?

Speaker 2:

oh see, yeah yeah, we used to play oregon trail. That was like the game man. Um, just the fact that we could play games at school, right. And so my dad he was a entrepreneur, businessman, small businesses, and we had an apple computer at home and we had games like Dig Dug. You remember Dig Dug?

Speaker 2:

no, I'm looking at Michael because I know he's he's same, same same organ trail is kind of like my yeah so, um, yeah, it was just, uh, you know, being seeing the evolution of computers all the way to you know what, when phones came out, smartphones and all these things. Man, it's just like I love history. Um, like my mother, she loves history and I bring her up because, you know, I noticed she always liked the background story of things. And so I'm the same way, like, still to this day, when I watch a movie, in the middle of the movie I'm on my phone and Tiff will look like man, why are you on your phone? I want to know, like, where they produced the movie, where is it actually?

Speaker 2:

being shot, like you know, know, like where they produced the movie, where's it actually being shot? Like you know, like, where's the actor today? Like I just start going on this history journey. So, um, yeah, with the steve jobs, you know, just looking at the history of the evolution of gosh, computers and smartphones, and I mean today it's so revolutionary, you know, it's always, it's always interesting to look at the history of, like where this origin was, like, where did this actually birth and how did it come to be? And so there's movies out now with Steve Jobs, and I think that's where what I love about movies is it really introduces you to a story visually, right. So those movies started my history journey with Steve Jobs.

Speaker 2:

But I'm a big fan of just, you know, somebody taking a small idea and and see how far you can take it and then being successful, meaning being able to actually be impactful with what you do. It was so impactful still to this day, I mean, just what we see with even AI on phones. I mean this is like the evolution just continues and continues. So, yeah, I was a big fan of the origin and the history of, you know, the evolution of smartphones and Apple and stuff. So, yeah, he was something, someone I always look to as a business entrepreneur, and then his story in general too is just very like crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I was reading that and you mentioned that, because this chapter is about stepping into your calling and with Steve Jobs, he I don't know if he got fired or he left Apple for a little bit. Yeah, you got to let go man. You got to let go From your own company. How is that even possible, bro?

Speaker 2:

I think majority of the shareholders like yeah, there gets a point where if you grow and you start, you know you incorporate and you get to a certain level and you got to spread out your investments and people and, um, co-owners, and there's you have a certain percentage in the company and you got to kind of do that to take some leaps.

Speaker 2:

Or at least it was a learning curve for him yeah and there was a point where you know they, they let him go and he was outvoted and you're out of your own company. You know, and I I don't forget the reason. I don't know if the movies were. You know fully, true, but whatever the case might be, man, I can't imagine like working because a company is like a baby, sure, so you're just sharing with me before, like how you feel that anxiety with your baby.

Speaker 2:

That's the same feeling entrepreneurs feel with with the company that they're building for a purpose. Right, because it's not about just the profit or free time, because we're passionate and want to be impactful with what we're doing and want it to be purposeful. So, when we're pouring all our energy, there is no time off. There is no energy. You know, it's like you're pouring everything and you're shaping and creating and forming and trying to get this product or service to a certain point to be impactful, this product or or service to a certain point to be impactful. And I can't imagine you. You get into a certain plateau and you have so much more vision and want to keep forming and and then all sudden, like your, your colleagues or those who are in partnership with you in the vision that's supposed to be from the origin, right say hey, man, you're, you're going way out of the creative zone. Like we're trying to stay on earth, you're in the moon. You know what I mean. Like we, we're not trying to hit the moon, we're trying to serve the earth, you know?

Speaker 1:

and so you're, you're out of here, man that's great and, um, I think the perspective thing is coming back, but I it seems like it's. It's all over this book, which is kind of one of the bigger pictures. But, um, on the book it says, uh, when he left, or when he got fired says getting fired from apple was the best thing that could ever happen to me.

Speaker 1:

The heaviness of being successful was replaced by the lightness of being a beginner again that's kind of nuts, because it's almost like you just let go of all the expectations and you get back to what you originally loved.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that's part of like see, god starts preparation with us. It's kind of like what I was just talking about with the company he starts preparation with us in your mother's womb. It says in scriptures, right, he's already preparing, molding, forming and creating. And as you're born and you're going through life, he's kind of shaped. He's doing the same thing, like I was just talking with the company. Right, he's just shaping and doing all these things.

Speaker 2:

And there are points in the light and in life all of us go through that are super challenging. We lose somebody very close with us to death. We, we navigate, you know, stress or anxieties or worries that come along and force us to do things. We make bad decisions in life that kind of have us decourse and do certain things. So as we're going through this path, god's continuously molding us and doing things. And then there's this point where he lost what he was pushing for. And there's this point where he lost what he was pushing for and this is how God, as he was preparing us through life, he also is parenting us now, and so what he was doing with Steve was he was parenting him.

Speaker 2:

It's like a parent You're a parent, you have a child and they're trying to put their hand on the stove and it's hot, but then they get a little cocky and give you a little attitude and like no, and they're still trying to put their hand on the stove and sometimes I gotta feel the burn to know, like that's why, right, you can't put your hand on the stove. So yeah, I think it was one of those things where, if we were to like, look at it from a multiverse view and say, say steve were to stay in the company, this is what would have happened and we could see the end.

Speaker 2:

And that's like the whole point of this book is, like we can't see the end all the time, but like if we could like see the end, you would look back and say, yes, thank you for taking me to the right. And that's what happened with steve. I think he had this understanding afterwards, like I had to be let go. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Like sure, I did, and and it put him in a place where he did exactly what you said. He let go of all this stuff.

Speaker 2:

And so, as we're going through life, there's certain areas, man, that you know, when I didn't go to the nfl or I didn't, you know, uh, succeed in finishing college, you know I could look back and say, yes, those were personal failures, but I think God allowed those to pan out because I needed to suffer with that, those kind of losses, to go through the path that he needed me to go through. And now, when I look back, it's like, oh man, you know, and so I think he got let go in 1985 and he didn't come back till about 1997.

Speaker 1:

go in 1985 and he didn't come back till about 1997. So that's 12 years, man. I can imagine, uh, what his thoughts were, because you don't know that after 12 years you'll be back, but the stress and the unknowing of, or the unknown of, what's going to happen next, or is that even in your heart, to try to get back to your company, or you know what, what I mean? It seems heavy on the mind. I think he let go.

Speaker 2:

I don't know for sure, but I think he I want to say he, let go and just created new companies. You know Pixel, you know next, next something you know he just started building other companies and just kept going with his, his calling and his purpose. He knew what it was. Yeah, was to innovate, to create, and so, as he was being parented once you go from preparation to parenting that was positioning and that's what God needed to do.

Speaker 2:

He wanted him back at Apple. He knew what he was going to do with him, but he had to position him, yeah, right in the perfect spot, his heart in the perfect spot, and that's when he got let back in, was when that time and god's time all aligned.

Speaker 1:

And now, it was like boom, yeah, two streams, just boom.

Speaker 1:

I love that, the parenting aspect, because you know, when I watch zozo, uh, I take her walking and stuff and like, um, I'm aware of what's on her left or what's on her right if there's a bike coming behind us or what not.

Speaker 1:

But when the time comes, I slowly if a bike's coming on the right side and she's walking towards that, I'll slowly come in and kind of like gently lean, lean her to the left, knowing that there's something coming here. But that verse you mentioned here is I will instruct you and teach you in the way you should go. I will counsel you with my and this is what I circle my loving eye on you. And it's like I'm doing it because I love her and I don't want the bad things to be in proximity of her. And it's almost like that stove thing where it's like you want to tell your kid no, but at the same time it's like they're just that this curiosity is innate in them where you know they need to find out for some reason and sometimes you just got to let them like, honestly, just let them touch the hot stove.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes we learn that way, you know I think like that as an adult.

Speaker 2:

I'm like man. I don't want to be the kid touching the hot stove.

Speaker 2:

Like you know, I understand we got a lot of things, but I want to use wisdom now, you know, to say OK, because you said so. That's all I need. There's an analogy that I'm a fan of when it comes to you know your calling, and there's I'm going to paint imagery right. There's a doorframe, imagine there's a wall and a door, it's open and there's a sign above it that says you were called. You know you were called for this, come on in. You know kind of deal. And a lot of people have those intuitions, those thoughts, those polls, like I think I'm supposed to do this. I think you know, and they walk by this door a lot you know, and they walk by and it says you were called for this, come on in. And you're just like man, I can't give this up to go in there. Or you know, I don't know if I have what it takes to go in there. You know, I don't know if I have what it takes to go in there. You know I don't know if that's for me.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if my partner will be in agreement, I don't know you know, there's all these like I don't knows, that kind of come up or like maybe even fear just whatever it is. But just you just don't give that door too much attention, or you just you kind of maybe get close enough to peek in and like like wait a minute, I can't really see what's going on. I don't really, you know, I can't see what's on the other side. Should I walk in? Like what, if you know?

Speaker 1:

what if?

Speaker 2:

I can't come back, and so that's just the analogy of a lot of times people, you know, they don't, they don't really know what their calling is or what they're. You know, they feel these poles and things that we've been parented in life and these desires and passions that's just been growing and formed in us are purposeful, right. God knows what he's doing. When you're like man I love cars there's a reason Like, oh, I love sports. There's a reason oh, I love that song.

Speaker 2:

There's a reason. Oh, I love that song. There's a reason. God's got us on this, where the wind blows on this path, to parent us, to prepare us with these desires. And in the book where you know I talk about, you know, uh, you know football and different things in my life that I share personally. In there those are just examples of God parenting me, you know, and giving me these passions and desires and just bubbling.

Speaker 2:

And so one day, when I came to that door, you know, I went in, and this is what it's really cool about. When you go in the door man, when you actually walk in the door and you turn around, it says you were chosen for this. So what I mean by that is that God always designed for you to be through the door. It was always part of the design. You just got to step through and trust. It's a process of just going through the door right and so bringing it back home with, with moses and moses's mom, jukka bed. Jukka bed I had to study how to say that man. Jukka bed sounds like an mc name. I I love like backstories going back to, like the history on things. So you know, prince of egypt the movie.

Speaker 1:

If you guys don't know who moses is one of the greatest animated uh movies, by the way I watch it.

Speaker 2:

I've been watching it like you know uh, liam, one of my, my third grandchild. That's what he, when he stays a night, we put on either, you know uh, joseph, or prince of egypt, yeah, and then he goes to sleep right away like so, yeah, prince of egypt, yeah, ride strong in in the bro home, um. But you know, when we hear this, this great story of Moses, we, we know of him, you know being uh, you know uh, in Egypt raised, as you know, the brother to the Pharaoh, to be under the Pharaoh is the Pharaoh's so-called son, and then he ends up, um, learning that he's a Hebrew and the Hebrews were actually all the slaves at the time. And so he ends up, you know, killing, you know a slave master, and leaves, and then God brings him back, you know, to save. And there's this awesome, amazing calling on Moses. Right, but I want to know the origin, like you know the history, so how it all like started and birthed.

Speaker 2:

That's like the cool stuff for me. And saying like, what moses didn't do, it's cool. It's just like watching a great movie and trying to know the history right. So going back, jacob bed, moses, mom man, she was dope to me, come on like she? Well, because you got to think, man, this is in a time where, you know, speaking of joseph, joseph was second of command, command of all of Egypt if you don't know his story, and he was able to bring in all the Hebrews into, you know, egyptian land, and so the Hebrews were just multiplying faster than everyone else.

Speaker 2:

And then the nation was just growing man, and so the new Pharaoh coming in was like man, we got to control this.

Speaker 1:

Too many of them this too many of them, just too many of them.

Speaker 2:

So they oppressed them, put them into slavery and and whatnot, and but they just kept growing. Still, it's just getting out of control, man. So he was like, all right, we gotta put a law in place that we kill all the, all the sons, yeah, all the boys, they gotta go. But because the midwives feared god, they were still like, man, we ain't killing the boys, yeah, yeah, and so, and so it was just, um, it was still happening. It's like it couldn't be controlled.

Speaker 2:

But the enemy was definitely trying to like, wipe out any boy there was. So we just got it, we're just gonna, we're just gonna kill this thing, right. And so, uh, at the time, and that season, man, jacob the mom and I will just use mom, right, so this mother has a baby and the baby is actually a handsome boy. It says that it was like it was a pretty boy. You know like, oh, man, now even more so they're really gonna want to, like, you know, get rid of my baby it's not like an ugly baby, because if you got an ugly boy, they're gonna be like oh man, we ain't worried about you.

Speaker 2:

kill all the the handsome boys, all the ugly ones, we can use them. I don't mean to laugh about that, but it does say he was a handsome boy.

Speaker 2:

So, he was a handsome boy. She hid him for three months Three months. Can you imagine a mother hiding your baby, knowing that they're out to kill your baby boy and you're hiding him for three months? Yeah, they're out to kill your baby boy and you're hiding him for three months, yeah. And then I bet she felt some kind of fear of, or, you know, like an oomph, to know that, hey, man, like I don't know if I can hide him any longer, you know.

Speaker 2:

And so she was able to build a boat, little boat, but something that could actually float. She had the, the knowledge and the wisdom to grab papyrus, uh, reeds, put them together, get asphalt tar, fill it up, not only to get it to make it work and float in the nile river, but actually put it in a place behind reeds. So alligators want to eat the boat and the baby as well. So she. So. Now, when I look at the origin of like this, I'm thinking man, okay, this is not like in the scriptures or any kind of history text, but this is me movie making in my head. I was like man. She must have grew up with a dad, a fish.

Speaker 1:

You know, her dad was a fisherman to know these little details, like how the heck, does she know, like, how to do this?

Speaker 2:

It's not like Moses' dad came in and did this. This was Moses' mom, right, right, Right, that did all this. Like she gets all the cred right, she's the one that. So I'm thinking, man, yeah, dad must have been an accountant, you know, or he worked with money. He don't touch tar, you know what I'm saying, Right you?

Speaker 2:

know. And so, mom, she just grew up with dad who built these little. They went fishing and they know how to make boats and they know where to hide when they did fishing, because the alligator they just kind of knew the knowledge.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she had the knowledge, I'm thinking, man. So here she was, she built this and then she actually told you know, miriam, the sister, follow, I'm going to put the boat in, put it in boom. So when she made the decision number one to hide the baby, boom, build this little basket. Let's call it not a boat, yeah, yeah, little basket, I call it a little boat man. And she put it in the stream. That was her walking through the door of her calling Little. Did she know, man, that her calling to walk through that door at that moment? Can you imagine any other moment? She, let's just say she put the baby in three hours later. Yeah, she would have missed the pharaoh's daughter coming down to bathe in the nile. To catch the timing of everything is just phenomenal yes and how god works with our like.

Speaker 2:

He understands timing and parenting and everything he did in the back end with Moses' mom, who knew that it was this day to put the baby in the Nile, so the boat could survive the river of the Nile to reach the moment that the actual daughter of the Pharaoh, who is the command of all Egypt, would walk down and bathe and see the baby at that exact moment. Come on, man. So all the things she went through. Now let's look at her back end. Everything she was going through in life, the moment her brother beat her up or the moment you know she didn't get. You know her. Her dad didn't tell her what she needed to hear that day. You know everything she was going through. They had to move houses a few times.

Speaker 2:

Think of all her parenting that she went through for this positioning moment. Yes, is like what blows my mind. But then that moment when Miriam goes down, and then Miriam is there to see the Pharaoh's daughter come down and say, oh, this beautiful boy, we should keep it. You know I like this boy, it's handsome, you know it's not ugly. And then Miriam speaks out because they were like, oh, we need somebody to to take care of the baby. Yeah, and miriam, miriam, they don't know, it's the sister like hey, I know somebody, and then brings mom right back. And in that moment, when mom actually gets to hear the story of the baby being saved and coming back, being able to nurture it, that's let go, let god man. That that's that moment, ray, that she had to let it. That's let go, let God man. That's that moment, ray, that she had to let it go. But you see what God did.

Speaker 1:

Brought it right back. Baby Brought it right back. I'm stoked.

Speaker 2:

Let's go. So, that's how our calling works. And when she got the report from Miriam, miriam came back. Mom, man, can you imagine that report, ray? Mom, you won't believe it. The Pharaoh's daughter happened to be bathing at the same time that the baby was going by. And then mom was probably like, oh, freaking out. Like, oh, no, like that's like.

Speaker 1:

I just did the worst thing ever.

Speaker 2:

I'm hiding the baby from the Pharaoh. And I just gave the baby to the Pharaoh and she's like no, no, no, no, no, no. Remember, it's handsome, the baby's handsome, don't? You don't need to worry. And so, because the baby was hand, no, but she's like mom, look, not only did she have empathy and love for the baby and wants to raise the baby as her own. The baby, our baby that you had didn't have a name. Yet the daughter of the Pharaoh named the baby Moses, I think Michael. Name of Moses means something found in the water, I'm guessing. I don't know, maybe we can look it up. We'll post it up. Yeah, look it up, we'll post it up. Yeah, but can you imagine the mom hearing the news from miriam, the sister, to say not only is the baby safe, but I got you to actually nurture the baby too, dude that's wild and be there for your baby, you know.

Speaker 2:

And so at that moment, I think, is when Jacobette was like she knew she was called, she stepped through that door, that calling, and she knew she was raised for that moment to make that little basket. She knew. She just knew what to do. I know what to do. I got to do this, this, this and this. And, just out of faith, who knew where it was going? Boom. But the moment she got called back and got to hold the baby again to nurture, it was the moment she looked back at that door and said I was chosen for this. And then you got Moses' story. Ohael's got it saved from the water, drawn from the water, that's what moses's means. So, yeah, that's why it was a very important for me to share that story in the chapter because, um, the wind blows, man, that's, you don't know where it's blowing. She didn't know where the, the. You know what, where it was going to go. But the trust, the fate, the patience, you know, was a big part of that.

Speaker 2:

This is a business owner, nugget. Uh, you know, business owner to business owner. I'm partnered with the. My CEO is is the builder of all things. My CEO is the builder of all things, and what that means is he's got all the resources of all resources. He's the king of kings, he's the lord of lords, so he's the builder of all things. He's got it all. And so when I go through business, I'm going through it to be impactful, not profitable.

Speaker 2:

And with that heart and that position, I know the builder of all things is going to be resourceful in what he does. And so when you look at the fish, you know five fish and two loaves of bread. When he had the basket man, he gave thanks and that was the position of the heart. Be thankful in everything you do, man, and God will multiply it. Man and take care of you and be resourceful in everything you do. And even when you feel like he's not, he's got the basket on the stream, taking you where you need to be. Because if you really think about where Moses went, he went from three months of hiding to a baby and almost second of command. Or, you know, he was like the son of the Pharaoh, you know, in one of the richest lands of the time. So he had everything you could think of. You know, and now I'm not giving you like a course here to say, hey, you can do this to get money, because God will. He's not a bank account, you know what I mean. He's not that, but resourceful means he has all the resources, whether it's a person I've been through house fires, man, I've seen the resources come in.

Speaker 2:

And it's not money, man, it's a hug, it's love, it's words, it's clothes. I mean he's got the connections around the whole planet, dude, to give you whatever you need. It's not money, is paper, man. Money is is not even real. Think about it. Money is not even real. You have something, I have something to give, and we'd have to make up something so we can trust that transaction. That's what money is, man. Money ain't real. We gotta stop thinking. Resources are like money. Business is is money. No, business is a service. You're providing something and you will get something in return. And if it's just money, what is that money for? If you don't attach like a reason to the money or what it's for, right, you're just trying to stash it. God ain't gonna bless that man. Sorry, went on uh no, no, that's good I mean money ain't real man.

Speaker 2:

If we keep looking at money as like the power and the resource for influence, man, we're going to be lost because you're in an illusion.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know. So that was just a business to business.

Speaker 1:

When you talk about builder, the title builder of all things, man, I recently this this what do you call this? This? What do you call it when something comes up and like revelation? To me, that came was you know, when we have titles, it means that you've earned this title because maybe you've reached some type of expert level on it. So to me, when you have a title, it means you're an expert at this. Builder of all things. You're an expert at this. Builder of all things. You're an expert at building all things. You know the resources. Jehovah, jireh is one of god's names. Jireh is provider. I'm thinking in my head you have this title, lord. That means you're an expert. I don't know how you're going to provide for this, but he did, or he, he knows how and when.

Speaker 1:

And when, when he flipped the story on, like what, what's meant to be, you know, a loss on our end, a loss on jacob beds, and everything flipped like, come on, we were negative, now we're positive, like he's the expert at doing that. Yeah, um, that's kind of like the revelation that's been happening in the past few months and man, he's got that. He knows what. He's an expert at, providing he is man that's so good Ray.

Speaker 2:

Yeah thank you for sharing. Yeah, but yeah man builder of all things You're talking about resources.

Speaker 1:

He knows where to put them, when to put them.

Speaker 2:

And money is a blessing man, like it's not real, but it's also a resource and not to ignore that, it's definitely a resource man but we cannot like attach our hearts to this being the influencer and power of what we're doing. He is the influencer and power of what everything is happening, whether you like it or not. I'm just going to say that straight. Like yeah, we're trying to like share who the builder of all things is, but he is the builder of all things, he is the CEO of all things, he is the ceo man, he is the captain of the ship.

Speaker 2:

I've been on a navy ship and I know what it's like to have a captain. I can't grab the helm at any time and do what I want. You just follow the flow. Yeah, yeah, and that's that's what the stream is. Man. It's uh is letting go of trying to take control man. It's like when we try to take control, we'll'm going to just say this boldly like you'll get lost, you will. You think you're found. It's temporary I'm going to use that word temporary a lot, maybe moving forward, because every time you get a little gain and a little win, we should celebrate it. But it is temporary.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying we're trying to focus on things that are eternal and the builder of all things is trying to prepare you for eternal things things, that's trying to prepare you for eternal things.

Speaker 1:

Come on, man, it's hard, it's well, I think it's. It's difficult to think 10, 20, 30 years ahead. Um, because we're such, uh, you know, we're just flesh man. We think about uh, instant, uh gains or um temporary, you know, uh feelings and whatnot. We want everything now, but, um, I believe the lord, uh, he's setting us up for long suffering is what I call it no suffering the patience.

Speaker 2:

It's uh, you know I'm going through that a lot in business, you know it's uh, yeah, it's especially a vision and a creative idea. You want to see it pan out really fast, you know. But it takes time and, just like god takes time to parent us a product or a service, it takes time to continue to mold it, present it, get it ready for the perfect moment, to where the market needs it and they can receive it.

Speaker 1:

There's a lot of twists and turns with how you stepped into your calling. Can you kind of talk about that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, in this chapter I share a lot of personal like back stories. I share a lot of origin back stories for myself, so if you're like wanting to go on to, like you know, internet and look up Richie's back story, I gave it now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this is here. Yeah, it's here. Chapter four, guys. Chapter four.

Speaker 2:

And if you were to like to like hey, richie, what's your calling? Man? I think my calling in life is I'm the guy at the door. You know, with the, the sign on the above that says you were called for this, I'm the guy at the door as a servant, trying to get you through the door. You know, I'm like, I'm like ray, like look man, hey, I'm like that, and you're in the mall. I'm that annoying guy that you know tries to get you to try to perfume, to come into the store tell you about the new lotion product. You know like, hey, come here, man, let me try it.

Speaker 2:

Smell that man so yeah, I think that's I mean, that's like the comical version, but I think I believe that's my calling is the guy at the door who, who tries to motivate, educate, do anything I can to tell you it's okay to walk through that door, man.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. Real brief, Richie. There's another analogy or story about the shoe shine. Is that what it was? I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 2:

I got to look it up because you know how sometimes you read stuff on the internet.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, you're talking about that's billy graham bill graham, it might be it might be true, but you know, billy graham, if you look at like you know what he's done for sharing the gospel or sharing jesus to the world, it's like what's his origin.

Speaker 2:

So I went and looked it up and then hopefully it's true because you know, um, but the story I read which would make a really good movie is he was a teenage boy and he saw a revival tent and tried to get in. He couldn't and you know it was already packed and he's young, so it wasn't like people were just letting him in. And then there's this shoe shiner you know who was there and he was able. He actually took the initiative to grab, you know, billy Graham and his friend and take them into the tent. He actually took the initiative to grab Billy Graham and his friend and take them into the tent. And that revival is what rocked Billy Graham's world. And from there is the rest of the story. But just thinking about that shoe shiner, who wasn't even in the revival, was just outside servicing and working, and I look at his whole backstory as a shoe shiner and everything he went through.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

It's all connected man. And here he was this one day. He didn't realize the kid that he was letting in. And I look at my grandkids like that man. I don't know who I'm raising in these 13. You know like one of them could be the tribe of judah. You know like, not literally, but like the tribe of judah. If you don't know, that was a lineage of david and everyone that went down to jesus.

Speaker 2:

Man, you don't know, like, who you're raising and who you're calling. So me personally, my backstory got me to a day where Me personally, my backstory got me to a day where today I look back and I say, man, I was chosen for this. You know like I feel like when I'm talking to somebody one on one and you know, I feel like I see all the, the, the parenting and life that God has taken him through. I'm hearing their stories and I'm hearing all, all their gifts and passions and failures and successes. It's like the story is coming together and I'm like, oh, man, you got a calling on your life. I know it, and so my goal and my hope is get you to that door Right right right.

Speaker 2:

That's my calling and where it started. Man is like I look at the and I and I challenge. I don't know if challenge is the right word, but as I think, I think maybe challenge. Like everyone who's listening to this, just go look at your, your past, and there's these certain pin moments right in there that are just so pivotal.

Speaker 2:

If they didn't happen, you would not be like certain things when you know it happened, and so I look for those moments and you know, one of them I share with my mom and her backstory, and I'll let you guys read it, but my mom's backstory is really cool and then coming to the day where she finally, you know she had the desires and passions to play a guitar and here she was singing for me, a little three-year-old, and I heard her singing about jesus and I asked who jesus is and the way she sang jesus man, it wasn't like a religion or like some some words off a book that she was just like reading and learning.

Speaker 2:

She sang like she knew him more, like she had a closer relationship with this, this jesus, than my dad. So I was just like, who is she singing about? I want to know this guy, jesus, because the way she sang I wanted, I like, I loved how, her emotions and how she you know how I could just see her feelings when she sang like there was just like this love and I was like, oh man, I want to know that jesus, you know like.

Speaker 2:

And so, as a little little toddler, I'm like, hey, you know, I didn't say like this, like yo, yo, you know what, who's this jesus dude? No, I was probably like you know who's who't. Say it like this. Like yo, yo, you know who's this Jesus dude. I was probably like you know who's Jesus, like, I want to know who he is. And so she shared with me and like, saying that I can accept him in my heart and all this. And so, like little kid, I just rolled over to the side, put my head against the wall like I'm going to sleep and I said, jesus, will you come into my, my heart? No, seriously, true story, yeah, yeah. So I was just like you know, I really wanted jesus to be in my, I wanted him in my heart. So I didn't know, I didn't think of heart, like my beating heart, but I knew like it meant in, like part of me somehow sure I got understood that a little three-year-old man, which is crazy.

Speaker 2:

And then, like two or three months later, house fire I died and got, you know, brought back to life and I got to witness jesus for real, you know, and experience him. So that pivotal moment man just makes me think, like what if she didn't introduce me to jesus? Like, would the fire been the same, you know? Like I don't know? You know, and so that was a real pivotal moment. Um, I think I share a lot of my football emotions and stories and kind of that.

Speaker 2:

That was really a scary moment for me and just as a freshman in high school, you know I didn't like football. I didn't, you know, I was more into basketball and other sports, baseball. But my mom, who is still, you know, kind of the parenting person of my life at the time too, was telling me I should try out for football. And you know I really didn't want to and I ended up trying out 6-2, played defense and then God just took over man. I guess oops, I keep leaving the mic. God just took over man because I just keep, I don't know man. It was fruitful, like everything, and I let people read the story of my football journey, but it was very fruitful man and I became, you know, by sophomore year.

Speaker 2:

I was a varsity quarterback, or invited to be a varsity quarterback, but the emotions of a sophomore, like some people would be like super excited for that opportunity Well, I could be the varsity quarterback. I'm only 16, you know, I'm sophomore and be the the, the hip man at the school, you know, but me I was a total opposite. Are you freaking, kidding me? Like on a football field, I don't know the sport and I'm going to be a quarterback, people are going to try to hit me. You know what I mean. It was very barbaric to me. I'm more like swag and basketball and kind of like shake you and you know, do a layup kind of guy, shoot a three but like to hit people and rah and all that wasn't your jam, no, so it was just, it was just frightening man, and, uh, you know I could have said no, but you know, I I wanted to quit football.

Speaker 2:

Honestly, I remember sitting in my bedroom like man, I want to quit this man. And just the fear, man, I understand that fear and I didn't know it was like a beginning to my calling. And my calling is not like football and NFL, I'm going to get to that. But that calling of being a leader, of taking people from one part of the field to the next and crossing a line, actually getting a team to cross the line to get through the door you see where I'm going with this, yeah, that's, that's, that was my calling. And I didn't realize, like, as a quarterback, I'm taking a team and I'm learning. Now here I go, I accept the role and the stories there and I like, eminem, in an eight mile I'm throwing up in the, the bathroom before the first game and I'm just like man, I can't do this. And then, you know, just having teammates there to encourage, and that's what happened, that was a shift for me.

Speaker 2:

In that moment, playing football man was like, okay, this isn't about me, this is about me supporting my team. Yeah, and that's where it shifted for me like I can do that because I've been parented all along to be that kind of guy. Yeah. So that was the moment I realized, okay, this isn't about who cares. If, like, I don't want to fail them, that's my motivation, but I don't, like, it's not about mean anymore, like I gotta be there for them. So that was like that was easy for me, and that's when I realized, oh, okay, maybe I'm, this is like this fits, this glove fits, yeah. So when I stepped down the field, man, I ended up breaking some quarterback rating record for a sophomore and quarterback, you know two, almost 300 yards, had, like you know, three touchdowns and played the number one team in the state and lost by two, but it almost beat them. It was in the rain, so I think we had a little bit of advantage.

Speaker 1:

It was God advantage.

Speaker 2:

You got it. But God was positioning me to, you know, be a quarterback in life and in my calling to help people get across that line, get through that door in their calling in life. And so, yeah, I share personal stories, man of my origin, of even going through the company. I remember, even military too. I think there was another pivotal point If we're going to. There was a point where um at a school I got um. I was third in my class, you know, and that's not normal. I'm usually like there's 26 people, I'm like 24 and in the in 24 is like the guy who just got the d, you know, like our c I'm like c level, I'm not d, but yeah, you know I always got got by.

Speaker 2:

And so, like C level, I'm not D, but yeah, you know, I always got got by, and so the fact that I was third in my class was just like mind blowing to me.

Speaker 2:

It was whatever office, administration, school, um. But when you get ranked on how you do in your class, at least in that school or at that time I don't know how it is now, but you get to pick the orders of where you're going to be stationed in the military, because this is my first time picking a station, so being third. The guy presented to the whole class he's like yeah, we got like, we got like 20 options in san diego, we got another 20 orders over here in newport, uh, newport, uh, virginia. And so it was either Virginia or Cali. But he says, oh, we got one in Japan and we got one in Hawaii. And I was like okay, I'm from Peoria, illinois, I'm trying to get out, you know, like that was a desire that was placed in me.

Speaker 2:

I'm trying to go to Japan or Hawaii, man, like I guess, or I'll settle for San Diego, my dad's from San Diego. So I'm like, all right, cool, but I'm third, so I'm like, okay, I'm already settling on San Diego, right?

Speaker 2:

And so the first order the guy did, he picked Japan. He's like, yeah, japan, I'm taking that. Everyone's like, yeah, japan, you know like it's cool and this A school was in Mississippi, so you couldn't even imagine. Man, we're in the middle of nowhere, you know, and so, uh, here we go. The second guy he's like all right, he's gonna get hawaii. Who wouldn't pick, like, from the mainland, you know, version of hawaii?

Speaker 2:

like right and this is like get out of here. You know, yeah, and he was like and he was sitting there and he was sitting there. I'm like, everyone's like what like, like, what do you go pick man and then he looks at me because he knows I'm number three. He's like man, you owe me a six pack man. He's like Virginia and I was like he's like, yeah, my family's from Virginia. So I got to go there, man. And then I jumped like I won the lottery.

Speaker 1:

man I'm like y'all don't even know where I come from, man from Peoria, illinois, I'm about to go to Hawaii, man, you know.

Speaker 2:

So I was just like so excited man, I just felt like I just won the biggest lottery in my life because all my life of parenting, the desire and passion was get out and I felt like I received that gift to get out and I'm out now and so, um, now why I share that is my whole life, the next 25 years. Here I am today. I cannot imagine anywhere else on the planet. I can't imagine that when my baby was born, you know, here on the islands, if I didn't like have that pivotal moment, I wouldn't have that baby, my baby to look in her eyes and say, so, nothing could change. No house fire, no, any other me messing up in college, no, anything. That pivotal moment when I could have gone to San Diego because my dad's from there and family or pick Hawaii, and so, yeah, man, it's uh, those pivotal moments. You know, I feel like if you look back you can see God shifting and taking you through this journey.

Speaker 1:

For sure. Um, I think, um, one of the things I underlined here was that you know, god works in the background and God works in ways you can't see. And these little pivotal moments With football you mentioned that in that era of your life, that pivotal moments, you learned the skill of leading with your heart, and that's something you can't just learn out of nowhere, especially in those situations, how it panned out, situations how it panned out, it's a, it's a, it's a portion they definitely people definitely got to read to get a more um, what do you call a bigger picture of it? Um, but it's where you learn to leave with your heart right. And then another, that other pivotal moment of that guy, um, you know, uh, being from virginia and choosing to home. That's just not random. I mean, that's God working in the backgrounds. And uh, it's crazy. And, uh, you had a small joke with your mom. It's like you were chosen Cause, uh, once I, what's that thing?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's, yeah. So the uh, the name, uh, with a c-h-o-s-i-n. But the fact that it was like I was chosen to come out out to the islands, and so the irony of that analogy is like you were called for this, but then I, you know, I go on to this chosen ship to say, yeah, I was chosen to be here, for whatever reason it is, you know, um, and that's you know. I encourage everyone to look at their personal life like that, like you were chosen for something you know, and look at where god's calling. There's gonna be a day you look back and say, yeah, this is where I'm supposed to be. If you're not there, it's coming I do believe that man.

Speaker 1:

And so, yeah, and the one of the last things I want to say, which is that, um, on the last portion or last page of that chapter, it says to pay attention, pay attention to these small things, because what could be, you know, ordinary, ordinary actions to you could be a foundation for, for the future, uh, the foundation for what you're actually called to be. Um, but you want to close it up, bro yeah, it's positioning man for our purpose.

Speaker 2:

I think, uh, when I say pay attention, it means, like you know, don't disregard all the storms in life, because I I believe god allows a lot of storms and some of them are really hard, you know. But he's setting us up and positioning us for a certain moment that will just change course. You know on everything, and so, if you're not there yet, just be patient and pay attention because it's coming, and continually look back on the history of what God has, you know, been doing all along, even when it looks hard and it looks horrible. How come I got kicked out of my house and was able to pay rent? That's not resourceful, that's not the builder of all things.

Speaker 2:

Guess what? You're going to look back one day and say, you know, oh, I need, I see what he was doing, yeah, but you're not there yet, you know. And so, if you're still in that place of you know, maybe blame or shame or whatever it is, I've been there too and you'll get over that hump. You know when everything pans out, and you know, just keep doing, keep moving, don't stay stagnant. Bye.

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