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"Wake Him Up"| Episode #88 | Builder of All Things | Author’s Cut: Chapter Six | Full Episode w/ Richie Breaux

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Welcome to the Builder of All Things Podcast—where we go beyond the pages of the book and explore into the Author’s Cut! 🔥 Join Richie Breaux and Ray Bisnar as they break down each chapter in micro-episodes, giving you the behind-the-scenes insights, deeper wisdom, and real-life applications—just like a Director’s Cut for a book. 

In this full episode, “Wake Him Up,” we dive deep into the entire journey of facing, navigating, and emerging through storms—and understanding how to call on Jesus in every stage. Whether it's spiritual, relational, or business upheaval, this episode equips you to respond with faith, clarity, and purpose.

🔔 What You’ll Discover:
* How labeling adversity as Storm, Snake, or Smoke shifts your approach—and your outcome
* Why peace isn't found in calm seas, but in knowing the Builder of all things is in the boat
* The four-stage framework to discern where you are in a storm: 🌬 Wind → ⚡ Thunder → 🌩 Lightning → 🌧 Rain
* How childhood memories of Midwest tornadoes shaped a life of preparedness and intuitive leadership
* Practical wisdom: building SOPs, pivoting when needed, and waking Jesus out of faith, not fear
* The importance of emotionally responding—not reacting—when fear whispers worst-case scenarios
* Real-time application: navigating booming interest rates, delayed permits, inflation, and supply chain disruption

📖 “Storms aren’t punishments—they’re life happening.”This episode isn’t just a sermon. It’s a strategic, honest, and spiritually anchored conversation about survival, stewardship, and transformation in any storm you face.

💬 Your Turn:
👇 Drop a comment: How do you “wake Jesus up” in your storms—with faith, not fear?

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Speaker 2:

It's getting really good at this point and so if you want to kind of bring us into about the storm and what's happening here, yeah, this is really the meat of the book and I say that to say the rest chapter one, all the way building up to chapter five, when we're in chapter six. Here was basically the perspective shift. Now we're jumping into if you have the perspective shift and understanding it and shifting your mind to understand what we're talking about in the other chapters, which is that builder of all things is the owner. We operate as stewards and when you capture that stewardship, you start opening the door of your almost like what you, your belief system, transfers from yourself to a higher power, right into god himself, and that allows your heart, the soil of your heart, to, uh, be more acceptable to what god's trying to do.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of like becomes your soils ready for the seed and fruit for god to work in your life. And so we wanted to really establish when I say we just just people, I've talked to experiences I've had, me and my wife when I was writing the book. I wanted to really establish that first book because people, businesses, pastors, parents has a lot of peas. Um, we, we battle adversity every day. You can't ignore them. And what I've, what I've experienced, I've done it, I see people do it. It's we want to categorize our adversity and call it a storm. Naturally, hey man, I'm going through a storm.

Speaker 1:

Sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I've heard that a lot, but listening, especially in business, was able to really pinpoint this. And then also now paying attention to life is that, depending on what kind of adversity you're in, is based on how you'll respond to it. That's right. So you can't respond to each adversity the same, and so I wanted to take and really look at a storm. You know through my experiences I shared in the book just growing up in the Midwest and the type of storms we would get man, we got those Wizard of Oz storms. You know like we get tornadoes.

Speaker 2:

I remember when I left to come here to the islands that you know there's like we get tornadoes. I remember when I left to come here to the islands that you know there's this town called Washington right outside, I mean 10 minutes from my city got wiped out with one of the greatest tornadoes in the Midwest in a very long time, very historic. Some of my friends homes was all over the national news and the storms there are just crazy, you know, and so but looking at a storm man and I referenced that to like the adversities I went I go through in business, through life, through marriage, through friendships there's all these different challenges. Like storms. They come a lot of times when you don't expect them and they're typically out of your control. They're not something that's caused by your decisions, by people you don't have. I mean, people are saying that the government's creating these storms, sure, but in reality God is allowing them. It's how the earth operates. They're going to come, they're going to go. You got to be just naturally ready and prepared, and however hits if it.

Speaker 2:

One of my favorite movies is twister. You know the old twister. The new one was pretty good too. But just uh, you know they come in all different forms and your job is to survive it. That's right, that's all there is to it. But the battles and adversities we face in life, I don't think it's wise to categorize it always as a storm. So, in where we're going in this book, the next three chapters are vital on categorizing and discerning what adversity are we in?

Speaker 2:

So, I broke those out in three categories, three pillars, which I call the storm, snake and the smoke, and so this chapter specifically is those adversities that are out of your control, like a storm. So to set this you know podcast up, to set the chapter up and this, this next three chapters, was being able to discern and categorize it first. So what's's good?

Speaker 2:

So, you know how to respond to it correctly, right, how to respond to it practically, how to respond to it spiritually, even spiritually, there's a different way to respond to, however, the adversity is Right, and so just to set the stage for this chapter, that's what this meat we're getting into is like. Okay, the any adversity you're facing in life or business, this applies, you know to look at it and say, okay, which category is it? Which? Which one is it? Are we talking about something that's out of my control? Or are you the snake which I reference as the deceiver, the liar? I mean, we hear the word snake, and that's why I use it is because we think of the enemy, the devil, the snake in the Bible. And so when you meet somebody who's kind of like a deceiving type, oh, he's snake-ish, you know, he's kind of snake-ish.

Speaker 1:

So normally it's a people, yeah, yeah, normally.

Speaker 2:

Normally it is a person who, when you discern we'll talk about that in the next podcast but you know when somebody is after attacking your character or coming at you, you know in a snakeish way, we'll call it right now. And then the last one is the smoke is when you it's self-inflicted adversity, when you really can look in the mirror and say did I start this fire? Fire. You know the kind of deal. So, um, on the smoke, we'll talk about that. But, very important, I have even in the book I have this kind of like interlude that describes everything I just shared to set the tone for the next three chapters. So when you're going into the storm, I want you to embrace categorizing it like of its own adversity, so you understand how to respond it, because you cannot respond, or I would advise you to respond to the snake like you would a storm I wouldn't advise for you to respond to the smoke like you would a storm in these adversities.

Speaker 2:

So that's just to set the stage of the interlude, you know, and interlude this podcast before we start talking about the storm, of where we're headed. This is the challenges of life, these are the tornadoes, these are the, the big rain storms that are trying to take you out, trying to make it so you know the things that are out of your control so you would say that the storm is normally something that's out of your control, out out of your hands, something you can't really control.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you have no control over this thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, good example. I'm in residential construction. I own a residential construction company. We rely heavily on putting together architectural plans, submitting them to the city and county and getting permit approvals. Permit approval usually three to six months, but when that delay kicks out to like two years, and that's to me a storm being created. There's different levels of the storms that we'll talk about, but to me that's out of my control. There are certain things I could try to help control that, but there's just a point where you're like man, there's nothing I can do to change the situation. And what's unique about the storm is it's God allowed. God allows storms. That's the foundational part of the approach to a storm, is understanding that if God allowed it, that's a great foundation to start Like it's in his control and that's the hard part. As a human, we want to control everything, but when it's out of your control, whose control is it in?

Speaker 1:

When you're talking about the differences with the storm snake and smoke. There was one particular quote in here, richie, that said storms aren't punishments or proof we're off track, they're just life happening. And I think the two things here, or the one big thing here, is that the recognizing what it is is so important because, again, it gives you the guide on how to respond to something. Yeah, can you kind of talk about that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so don't get me wrong, god is definitely the control, the storm. Sometimes he'll use storms to wipe you out and and not not to take you out, but wipe meaning. Maybe wipe is kind of a word for take out. But what I believe god wants to do with a storm is shake your foundation and what happens when there's a shaking. I know this in construction if you have a solid foundation and there's an earthquake, you're hoping everything built on top of that foundation stands. So when God has storms, he's typically trying to shake your whole being to see what stands, because that's a good thing.

Speaker 2:

There's nothing wrong with things. I mean, it's challenging, it's hard, it sucks, but now you get to see what didn't work, what you got to work to fix on what's what fell off, why did it fall off? So when businesses get shooken, you know and you look at what's actually standing after the storm passes is what you got to reevaluate, to work on what landed. If you don't have the right foundation, yeah, that's where a wipeout can come and that's sometimes where I don't think God's going to. I mean, god is God. I can never limit him if he wants to punish out of a storm. But I think our approach as believers is to know that he's in control mostly.

Speaker 1:

Is there a recent storm that you can think of?

Speaker 2:

maybe in the last, I don't know, few months, or something, something recent that you can kind of paint a picture for some listeners whether it's a big storm or a small storm or you know, I mean the permit is probably one of the most current alive storms, as a business owner, that we're in and we're tackling so we're in probably an F're tackling, so we're in a probably an f5 tornado oh, the category.

Speaker 2:

That's a category, I think it's ef I think they changed that uh categorization of storm, of tornadoes, now. But uh, uh, we're in a big tornado right now as we speak and, um, how I'm operating is, uh, exactly how I'm supposed to approach a tornado, you know, go look for shelter and survive. So there's more spiritually on how to handle that. But but we were, there was keys and components that we'll talk about. That basically helped us understand what was coming and what type of storm and being ready for it. But yeah, I mean current live storm right now is the island is already challenging to get products here.

Speaker 2:

Inflation has rose incredibly post covid, right With the, with the, with land and market of real estate and interest rates, inflation, lack of inventory All these things take a strong play on our market. And so what that means is we used to get a lot of calls every gosh. We would get calls every day, all day, and yeah, I'd have a full-time person just answering the phone. Man, it was just like like a, like it was awesome. You know god was blessing. But if interest rates are really high, it's not a season to go buy, you know it's uh, it's not a season to refinance. So that just eliminates two different markets for us, then people aren't remodeling, they're not extending, they're not doing these things.

Speaker 2:

And an inventory is really low. So you know it's a little island. It's kind of already all built out.

Speaker 2:

So if you're not renovating or remodeling, you're not building, and then that kind of lacks. You know the reach for market and then on top of that you have a luxury market which we strategically placed ourselves and with people who don't refinance and have the funds and just buy land, you're still dealing with lack of inventory, inflation on product. Um, since COVID and you have the department of permitting basically taken two years to get their plans through and they're having their own struggles in the storm or maybe it's smoke, but they're having their own.

Speaker 2:

We're having a storm because of it, because you know just everyone's just not renovating, remodeling or building because of all these different factors. So currently going through that storm.

Speaker 1:

So it seems like ATN has been through a bunch of storms and, I'm assuming, also snakes and smokes, but particularly with storms, there's going to be small Manini ones and like big ones. Right, how would you, or what's your advice to people that are going through the small ones? And what's your advice to people that are going through the small ones and what's your advice to people that are going through like major, you know, foundation shaking type storms?

Speaker 2:

yeah. So from a practical level, I believe that you gotta identify number one. If you categorize, you're in a storm. Yeah, you know, by looking at all three categories I shared, you say man, this is definitely a storm, it's out of my control, there's nothing I can do. You know, uh, there are four indicators discernment indicators and application indicators that I would uh advise that we use, and it's based off my childhood experience in storms, you know, growing up in the midwest you know, I, I was like one of those kids that loved I had those.

Speaker 2:

We had a basketball rim that you can adjust. I put it just to the level to where I can dunk it who didn't, you know? And then I would get a little bit smaller ball so I can palm it, and then we used to have dunk contest and, yeah, it would be super fun. You know, I was probably, you know, sixth grade and acting like I'm sean kemp. That's, that's my age, y'all you know like you know.

Speaker 2:

So, um, but doing these we'd be outside playing as a kid no phones, you know, we didn't too many game systems back then. We're always outside and so we had to be back home by the street lights, you know. So that's all normal. And while we're playing sometimes we realize like, wait a minute, it's getting kind of like we can. You can feel it like the moisture in the air changes. It's sometimes a little little warmer, a little cooler, the wind starts changing.

Speaker 2:

You just feel this. You could feel it like a storm's coming, you know, you just know. Yeah, you just you've been around it. It's just you have that like. You just know the wind. You look at the clouds, you can tell it's getting a little bit dark. They're kind of doing this wavy blow thing. That's not normal. And you're just like, okay, storm's coming. But as kids you don't go run for shelter and you don't care how big it is, you're trying to get your last hour of playing. So when you would hear thunder, it was official, official okay, there's a storm well, no, we still wouldn't go home.

Speaker 2:

Oh, because we learned this rule like when you hear thunder, you see lightning, you do this little count one, one thousand, two, one thousand, and then if you see the lightning, or if you see the lightning and to do it, and you hear the thunder, that's how far by mileage mileage.

Speaker 2:

So we wait till the last second because we want to maximize our time. Right, go playing. But um, you know, hearing the thunder and then seeing the lightning, um, right before the rain, we would, we would time it pretty good, pretty like on point, yeah, I mean, sometimes hell would fall on us. That'd be crazy. But um, so we go back inside and then in the midwest uh, I was in the city so we didn't get like the tornado tornadoes hit us. We'd hear about the tornadoes outside city, so we didn't get like the tornado tornadoes hit us. We'd hear about the tornadoes outside of us, but we would get slammed with the thunderstorm part of it, right and it would hit so hard. You would hear like small debris come and slam into the window, you would see trees fall, you would see electrical wires fall, and it was just it just kind of a fun experience. The next day, when the storm passed, we would go outside as kids grab our bikes. There would be fire trucks.

Speaker 1:

It sounds super fun. I'm imagining now it would just be cool to just go on your bikes with the boys.

Speaker 2:

Bro, we would get on our bikes. There would be smashed cars with trees. I mean, it was, we'd get on our bikes, there would be smashed cars with trees.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it was like a war scene.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was like a war scene and it would happen, you know, three or four times a year. It was like and we just want to go see all the damage. Obviously, you know it was just that childlike faith, not thinking about it like an adult. But yeah, just having that childlike faith, man, and not looking at it like you know the destruction or the panic or worrying about your house getting, you know, slammed or whatever by by the wind and the destruction, um, but then looking at it as an adult too, now that I'm older, is like, dang, you're hoping you're, you're kind of going to a little more of a panic or a little worry, like man, I hope my car doesn't get, I don't gotta worry about insurance, or I hope you know everyone's safe.

Speaker 2:

I'm so sorry about jim across the street where his truck got smashed. Can't imagine what he's going through. You know there's the whole adult side of looking at it too and the responsibility of, like trying to protect your assets and people and everyone's safe. So you know, when you're young you don't think about those things. But it really made me think about, like, the balance of and this is to answer your question what would I share to the people that different levels of storms is. I do believe that we want to address it with a balance, with a heart or a like a childlike faith, but also an adult stewardship.

Speaker 2:

You know like there's an a balance of doing all you know, you can do you know, but at the same time have a faith aspect, knowing that God's in control of all things and just having that faith, understanding like, hey, it will pass and in whatever happens, god allowed and we'll have to address it when the time comes.

Speaker 1:

We didn't have the luxury to panic, and that's regarding one of the stories in the book. I don't know if you want to touch upon that, but the main thing is that that's crazy, because sometimes people can choose to panic, but because of your alertness to the situation, we didn't have time. To panic just means you got to move quick, right, and this is one of the aspects of responding to a storm. But can you elaborate on that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So naturally you need to get your physical body in a place of peace. And an absence of a storm, if I were to say anything, the absence of a storm isn't what creates peace, it's Jesus's presence, which I think the builder of all things presence. So you're thinking, how's that even practical? Well, it's not the absence of a storm that creates peace, it's the presence of the builder of all things. And so the storm a good example in the Bible that's very similar is there is disciples with Jesus. Jesus set the GPS, told them I use GPS, basically like the coordinates, saying hey, we're going to go across this body of water, let's get in the boat, we got somewhere to be. And if God sets the coordinates in your life, it gives you vision for your business. You're riding with builder of all things and you have them on your boat, meaning in your business, and you're operating with understanding. He's the owner and you're a steward. That's why that part comes first. You're stewarding and he's on the boat with you. If he's setting the coordinates and you're on the stream which we've talked about, right, and you're going down and there's a storm, the way you react it should be like the adult in stewardship, but also like the kid in fate.

Speaker 2:

You see, jesus in this story was. He was asleep, I think it's Mark 4, 28. I think he was asleep on a cushion, on a pillow, relaxed. And so the adult side of these guys on the boat was the panic. Because there's a storm hitting man, there's waves hitting the boat, skin shaking. They're losing their sense of foundation. Jesus is there on the stern, that's their foundation, but they're getting shaken right now to kind of see where their faith is. And so what do they do? Is they wake him up, you know, and Jesus look and say ye, of little faith. And then he speaks, be still. He speaks to the storm and it stops, and then they recognize who he is. Oh, he's the builder of all things like even the winds and the waves obey, and that's, that's the story, right?

Speaker 2:

So when I say the absence of the storm doesn't create peace, it wasn't the idea of the storm going away that creates peace, because then there will always be another storm. So you can't rest in just just getting through the storm alone. So it's's like if you're homeless and you can sit there and worry about am I going to eat tonight? And then you feel like peace doesn't come just naturally, just from getting food, because then tomorrow you might have to go through the same struggle.

Speaker 2:

The peace comes knowing where you're getting the food from and if it's consistent, like if you know, like if you're getting oh wait a minute, I have a consistent source to get this food, or maybe I got a job and now I can have faith I'm constantly going to get you know being able to get these resources to have a place to sleep and eat. It's the same thing. Where that's where the peace comes is knowing that the builder of all things was on the boat with you, he's in the business with you, he's in the storm with you, and when you have that, that, that understanding and that kind of fate, then then that produces the peace that I'm talking about fear will whisper worst-case scenarios and, as human beings, that's tough, because I feel like that happens to a lot of people, when, because we're just not used to building that muscle, that risk, how to respond?

Speaker 1:

muscle, I guess, um, and same thing. What happened with the, with the guys on the boat? That's the first thing that probably came up in their minds, right like what is the worst case scenario? We're gonna, we're gonna drown, we're gonna fall. Uh, this boat's gonna ship. What's like? How do you approach that? And what's your? I want to say tactic, but what's your? How do you approach something like that for people that aren't?

Speaker 2:

yeah, okay, trust the process. So you still have to have faith in a storm. There's no, there's no way around it. You, you see the movies all the time that are not spiritual. There's, there's a godzilla's flying a truck at you and the guy's praying behind the truck. Faith comes out in fear. Man. Like now I'm gonna say faith comes out in fear, but I want to say Godzilla is flying a truck at you and the guy is praying behind the truck. Faith comes out in fear. Man. Like not only say faith comes out in fear, but I want to say the God that you didn't think existed comes out in fear.

Speaker 2:

You know you could be an atheist, but as soon as you're about to die, you're going to cry out to God. You know what I mean and that's pretty pretty standard. What we see as human beings is like when you're in those circumstances. So faith is always going to take, or your trust in something is always going to take place. But practically, man like I say that to say that God, whether you believe in him or not, is parenting and teaching you and carrying you along your path your whole life. And when you have a storm that he's allowing, you have to trust the process as much as you can, because that's all you have right. Whatever you have is resources, whatever you've learned. So you have to react and trust the process. If you react out of panic, you're not going to abide by the process. That's military right. Military trains you to just trust what you're trained to do and trust you'll get through it. And I think it's any little thing that we're in in business.

Speaker 2:

Man, when you put a process together, you have to fully fulfill it and trust it, and then, if it doesn't work, you come back like what did the storm knock off? You'll never know. If you don't fully go through with the process, that's good. And then in the midst of it, be okay to pivot, like if the process is to run to the shelter, underground shelter, open the doors and you're running and then there's a flying roof panel flying at you. You're not going to let it hit you because I'm my. My SOP says run to that, right, right. So you got to be ready to pivot too. So a lot of times it's it's you know you'll have to pivot and just trust your instincts in the moment, man, and just it's really just trusting the process in a full degree. But there are ways I've put discernment, triggers that I've learned to apply, that people can apply, and I think it starts with how to recognize a storm, where you're at in the storm, and then how to respond to those.

Speaker 1:

That's good. I like that we're here, because in a portion of the chapter it talks about you and Tiffany's kind of not revelation, but something like you mentioned. You have to go through the process in order to find out what needs to be worked on or what muscles need to be built up or what needs to be cut off. There's one portion that it's such a I think this is probably the best one for myself which was the power of waking Jesus out of faith and not fear. And it says fear says do you care? Like you're waking up Jesus, like don't you care, like there's a storm.

Speaker 1:

That's out of fear, right, but versus waking Jesus up and saying, hey, jesus, you know we need your help or whatnot and I think that perspective change or that line here is just helped me shift you know your? It kind of shows your what you need to work on or what you should continue to work on, which is waking him up out of trust and knowing that he's going to take care of it, or you're panicking, you're waking him up, you know. I thought that was so good. Can you talk about that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just I mean looking at the story I've heard a lot of you know, of you know people in the faith say you know they failed by waking them up, like they should have just kind of laid on the pillow with them, which, oh interesting you know, and so like not waking them up and just having faith and riding, riding out, but then that's like taking the horn, you know, by yourself, right. And so I think waking him up was key, like I think that, think that's what he wanted.

Speaker 2:

You know, I think he wanted you to wake him up and not wake him up out of fear, that's good you know I wake him up out of fate and you know in circumstances I'm in and this is real spiritual and relationship is where you know you get into a storm and I'm going to trust the processes and do everything I know to do with the boat. You know, know the business to keep it afloat, but I won't, I won't shy away from, I'd immediately get in my closet and pray to wake him up you know, wake him up out of faith.

Speaker 2:

So my, the way I deliver my prayer is not out of fear, it's out of fate. I know you're, I know you're going to, you know, take care of us in this storm. I, I know you're going to do this, but I want to show you that I know that you know and that's my relationship to him is just actively, verbally praying already what I believe is going to happen and praising him for it already before it does. So it's a faith movement, right, waking up Jesus is, you know. I want to say this, man, don't think about. I mean, yeah, you want to try to balance, or not even balance, but you want to wake them out of faith, not fear, but at the end of the day, just wake them up, man, you know what I mean. Like, like, don't, don't, not wake him up, don't try to take the helm and run the ship on your own. If I were to close with anything, man, I don't care if you're screaming, cussing, you're in your garage, you're out in an open field and you just cannot handle the storm or the weight you're in and it's way out of your control. Whatever it is, wake him up. Wake him up, whether it's fear, pain, whatever it is, just scream and just say Jesus, wake up, I need you.

Speaker 2:

Builder of all things. We say builder of all things. We're saying he's the builder and creator and designer and ultimate, like just operator of everything that we rest our feet on daily, and gravity and universe. If he is like holding all these things together, allowing the earth to just just rotate so perfectly in the balance between the sun and in, in how far we are? I mean just thinking about antarctica and below, if you look at like it's frozen on the top and bottom of the axis, and then it's at this perfect temperature in hawaii, at like 70, 80, 90 degrees.

Speaker 2:

The pivotal point of that possibility is so pinpoint, exact in the universe for survival that he's operating for storms to constantly cleanse and repair and replenish the earth, that when it's the same thing in our lives that we have to have storms to replenish, to redirect, to reroute, to rebuild, and so when a storm comes, praise God and it sucks, but wake them up, wake, wake him up. That's what he's waiting on. Wake him up. When you wake him up, it will, he will calm it and then he'll give you what you need to rebuild for those guys on the boat. They needed to work on their fate. Right, yeah, they did. He just told him what they need to work on. You little fate, that's true. That's what you need to work on. That's what the storm was for you know, that now I'm.

Speaker 2:

That's what you need to work on.

Speaker 1:

Wake them up wake them up can you talk about preparation and positioning?

Speaker 2:

yeah, um, you know, with my experience in you know, peoria, midwest, growing up there before I came to the islands, and those things I shared about recognizing the wind and then hearing the thunder, and then you see the lightning and then comes the rain. There's like an order there, right. And so I felt like recognizing number one you're in a storm or a storm's coming and then recognizing where you're at in the storm, like are you at tier one, two, two, three or four kind of deal, right. So, um, what I've naturally, you know I've done this, but now I'm just trying to like define it is through. There's two parts to the wind. You know, the wind is first, like I'm saying, it's like you, there's a feeling you feel when you don't see it, but you feel it. Yeah, you know, and there was the change and there's just something you could feel.

Speaker 2:

And I really believe that there's two things that happen is just, you've had enough experience in your business, trade and life that there's an intuition that develops naturally, right, and I would say when the wind happens, like when I was a kid, pay attention. It doesn't mean run back in the house, you know, like we're playing a game, but be aware, don't ignore it. You know, and sometimes it's actually God speaking to you too. It's not just you may have no experience in that situation, and God will give you that same feeling, that same kind of intuition. That's what we call the Holy Spirit, right, so he'll speak to you that way as well. But that's what we call the Holy Spirit, right, so he'll speak to you that way as well. But, yeah, that wind comes, I think.

Speaker 2:

Pay attention. You know like I have that experience all the time with you know, in a lot of situations where I can just feel like we need to email the client, I just nothing else says why do it right now? Or like before the day ends? But follow those leadings. There's this little. You can't explain it, you can't pinpoint it, it's just pay attention. So that would be my first key is recognize if you feel something, there's a reason why, and it doesn't mean you have to have the answer yet. But go ahead and note it. Pay attention and be aware that's good, that's like number one. Don't just throw it off. Attention and be aware, that's good, that's like number one. Don't.

Speaker 2:

Don't just throw it off, like when the moisture changes the wind and you kind of see the clouds doing a little something different, then yeah, okay, we're watching you yeah, just record it, yeah, yeah yeah, so that would be my first indicator and, um, typically, like when that kind of thing happens and you don't really have any processes in place, I would take worst case scenarios, work backwards and create SOPs for risk limitations. Right, risk awareness for what you would do? Right, business gems.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sorry, we're getting into business gems, but I mean be ready for every type of storm, right. If it's a tornado, where are we going to go? And if the tornado goes right over our head, have a vision of worst case scenarios and already put tactics and SOPs. Sop just really means instructions and a process to get from A to Z. That's all it means. Right, it's just okay. A is stand up, you know, and that's a procedure. Actually, what we really want to do is get over there to that shelter, open the doors and get in. That's what we need to do, and in business, we like to type out everything.

Speaker 2:

Man like you got to stand up, walk 10 feet and yeah, that's a little too much information, but, but when you're building these, it's very important to have these so, even when the wind kicks in and your intuition kicks in, you could sometimes determine what kind of storm could be. Yeah, you know, and then you're already kind of okay if this just kind of taking that mental note and that, okay, like if it is the, you know, I feel like the permitting is taking a little bit longer than usual, you know. And if that's the case, what could happen? Oh, we people could stop doing work if that happens. Okay, I need to start doing podcasts with, with people that are connected to making decisions, with bills that have to do with dpp.

Speaker 2:

That was an intuition thing. I don't have to sit there with the mayor and certain people, but I made an intuition, I feel it coming and want to be a part of the solution, not just to hang out on the prom. I'm already doing some work based on intuition, right, and so that's what births those things. You know it's like why, would you know, am I doing? Trying to, you know, create scenarios of surviving outside of I'm pivoting now, okay, what kind of projects where we don't need permitting?

Speaker 2:

you know, and so you just got to, you just got to think, okay, worst case scenario, even everything's all good, now everything might not be all good in the storm, right? So indicator number two is what I call the thunder. You know, I was like once you hear that rumble, rumble, you're like, oh man, it's kind of official now, like there is a storm. Doesn't mean it's going to hit you, but there's definitely a storm now. Yeah, right. So hearing it is like, is it affecting you yet or is it just noise? That it's, it's out there but not affecting you.

Speaker 2:

And so when you hear the thunder, it's like when I read, you know, a magazine article about the dpp is taking longer than usual, I'm now hearing the noise. Yeah, it's not just an intuition anymore. Now I'm speaking to other. You know, I'm out there with another colleague and he's like man, is your permit? Taking a while, because it's like taking us almost a year. Now the architect starts, I see in emails and you know, and just the noise is getting real, right, it's like, oh man, like there is a storm out there it's approaching or it's it's out in the outskirts of me.

Speaker 2:

You know it's. It's not affecting me yet, but it's on the outskirts. So when that starts happening, that's when you know. We just start doing our preparation at tier two now.

Speaker 1:

Like a little more.

Speaker 2:

You know it's real. Give the team heads up like hey, projects might not start. You know it's okay to integrate a little bit of that awareness. There's a storm. You know, just like storms do. They put the little indicators on the TV back in the day.

Speaker 1:

So there's is warning, or you know, or the floating banner.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah so same kind of thing of business and how you approach certain things. But then when you see the lightning, it's it's collectively, it's something you could see now, and that's when the lightning is when you actually start seeing it affecting you. Uh, so it's not in the outskirts anymore. Lightning is like, okay, it's hitting ground. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's not in the outskirts anymore. Lightning is like, okay, it's hitting ground. You know what I mean. It's no longer just in the sky, it's touching the earth. And then it's approaching too.

Speaker 2:

Right, and for shelter, it's time for protecting your business, it's time to stop investing. It's time to kind of like let the team know, like, hey, this is a storm. It could still like pass us, but it's a real storm. Now it's touching ground. It could hit us dead on. And then the last one is the rain. So if you could be a business owner, family, marriage, could be in the middle of this right now. That's when you're in the storm, you know, and if you didn't prepare for those indicators, that's, it is what it is. And if you're in the storm right now, it's not too late, like you still can wake up. The builder of all things.

Speaker 1:

It's not too late. You know what I?

Speaker 2:

mean. So sometimes you it's good to have these indicators and to like pay attention and then start you know, prepping teams to understand it could be, and when it is happening, just start putting your processes in place and get your shelter and ready for the storm. But when the rain comes and you're in it, man, that's when it's all fate. You can imagine, like in Twister, when the storm was hitting, it was just once they're at the shelter, man, they're just holding each other and hope they don't blow away. The rain is when you're in it. But when you're in it in it and that's what those uh disciples on the boat were, they were in it in it, and so they they had to make a choice on whether to try to control it from there or to wake up the builder of all things, to just kind of seize the day.

Speaker 2:

And so, just going back on what I said, man, that peace doesn't come from the absence of the storm. It comes in the presence of the builder of all things is where you get to really rest peacefully and understanding that he is in control of the storms that come. He is the one that's in control of allowing it to begin in the first place. So if he's in control of allowing it to pass and to stop it, like everything in the middle, as much as it sucks, it's going to shake your foundation and all the things that need to fall off. So you know what you got to fix, and if you not, if it shuts you down, then praise God, because Paul in Acts 27 was on a ship. Let's call it a boat. It's going off and that storm hit them. That boat didn't survive, but not one person was injured on that ship. Every single one, I shouldn't say injured. I'm pretty sure they had scratches and broken arms.

Speaker 2:

But they all survived.

Speaker 2:

Not one died for sure. They all made it to land. They had to swim, but they all made it. Every single one accounted for. So sometimes even the boat will sink, but you weren't meant to do a business at that time or that type of business in that time, and that's acceptable, right and so, either way, at the end of the day, god, when there's a storm, he is shaking you, trying to see what you need to work on, and sometimes it's not to destroy or to to shake, sometimes it's just to reroute. Yeah, you know, redirect Like sometimes the storm's right there and you just can't go forward. No more, right.

Speaker 2:

You know, like, oh, we got to go this way then, yeah, let's dodge the storm. Sometimes it's just to pivot you yeah, you know and get you in a new direction. Thank you.

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