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Gut health, microbiome and entrepreneurship | Goitseone Thamae on health and leadership

April 16, 2025 • Mari Williams, The Mind Architect • Season 1 • Episode 36

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Gut health, the microbiome and physical wellbeing are increasingly linked to mental health, performance and long-term health outcomes.

In this episode, Goitseone Thamae shares her journey from selling fruit and vegetables as a child in Botswana to founding Evobiome, a company focused on improving health through the gut microbiome.

She speaks about her entrepreneurial path, the role of failure in shaping her mindset, and the personal health challenges that led her to focus on the microbiome, including fighting for her life in hospital with COVID and ongoing ill health.

Through her work, Goitseone explains why the gut microbiome is so important, how it affects both physical and mental health, and what practical steps people can take to improve it.

In this conversation, we also cover:
• How early leadership experiences shape your career
• What to do when you think you’ve failed
• How to stop relying on antihistamines and omeprazole
• Whether supplements are worth taking
• Is kombucha sugary
• How to fight a chest infection

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