Delivery Room Chronicles

In this episode of Just My Baby Daddy, AJ Adams and Kenny Holt discuss the joys and challenges of fatherhood, particularly focusing on Kenny's recent experience as a new father. They share personal stories about the birth of their children, the emotional rollercoaster of hospital stays, and the adjustments required when bringing a newborn home. The conversation highlights the unique experiences of each birth, the importance of support systems, and the reflections on personal growth as fathers.

00:00
The Joys and Challenges of New Fatherhood

07:18
Unique Birth Experiences and Emotions

14:44
Navigating Hospital Stays and Support

21:45
Adjusting to Life at Home with a Newborn

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Transcript

AJ Adams (00:10)
Welcome to an episode of Just My Baby Daddy podcast. It's your favorite baby daddy, AJ. And today we have a special treat. We have a new father, fresh out the hospital, a returning guest, Mr. Kenny Holt. Appreciate you being on the show, Kenny. How you doing, man?

Kenny Holt (00:27)
Dude, I still can't believe like I got three kids now. But I'm not doing well right this second. I'm kind of sleep deprived, but I'm still overjoyed with bringing in my third kid. You know, now I have two boys and a daughter. So.

It's really starting to set in because we've been home for a few days now from the hospital and it's starting to set in like, yo, this is really real. Because when you're in the hospital, it's like, and I don't know what question, I'm sorry if I'm overstepping any boundaries, but it's like when you're in the hospital, it's almost like a present on Christmas. You can't wait to open that mother fucker up. You can't wait for the baby to get here. And then when you get home, you get to playing with the baby.

experiencing the baby and enjoying and just spending time, it gets real. Like no sleep, having to get in a routine, feeding and all that stuff. But I'm sure we'll get in all that, dude, I'm tired right now. But thank you for having me.

AJ Adams (01:22)
By your response, I can tell you're tired. But you know what? It's funny. I'm going get into the whole thing. So let's start off because I got my experience, I'm pretty sure is different than yours based upon what you just said about you felt like Christmas. Because when I felt like when I was in the hospital, I felt like I was in hell. So we're definitely going to get into that. But how did you?

Kenny Holt (01:25)
Yeah.

Yeah.

AJ Adams (01:46)
How did you first know that it was time? Was it something that was an induction or was it like, cause you know, funny story is none of my kids has never been a time where like the water broke and my God, it's time. Every time it's been like, I had to go to the hospital for something and it's like, okay, they need to get this baby out of here. it's, every time it's always been that way. It's never been a we're prepared or on this day is really going to be, it just happened. So how about for you?

Kenny Holt (02:12)
Yeah, and every time it is different because just comparing this time, Kai, this time with Micah, last time, this time it went fairly quickly. With Micah, think Leneese was in labor for like 30 something hours, right? But this time,

We went to her weekly checkup. So as you get close to the due date, for those that don't know, you have to have a weekly checkup where they go and just make sure the baby's down and everything's progressing. They check the dilation and everything. when we went in, this was last Friday, we went in for a regular weekly checkup, because we had what, two or three more weeks to go. Everything checked out fine. She was four centimeters dilated. You know, slight contractions, nothing too crazy.

and they weren't really close in between each other. So no worries there. And so they checked her out and did like a little exam. And then they were sending us home. we were getting dressed. I was helping her put on her clothes, cause you know, the belly's all big and shit. they can't really maneuver. So I'm having to lift her leg up and put her leg in the pet leg and all that stuff. And so as we're doing that, her water breaks. And it's like,

AJ Adams (03:19)
Whoa! ⁓ shit!

Kenny Holt (03:20)
Yeah, while we're

doing that, while we're getting ready to go home. And this particular OB's office is in this health facility where down the hallway, like a five minute walk is the labor and delivery space or ward or whatever you want to call it. So I go and I get the nurse or the doctor, like, water just broke. let me rewind. So when the water broke, I was like, ew, because the stuff comes out.

And he's like, don't get that shit on me. You know what I'm saying?

AJ Adams (03:45)
No, I've never experienced that. So like, that happen

to you every time? There's always been a water break. I've never gone through that. Like, I have no idea how I would, I ain't gonna lie, I probably would freak out a little bit. I never experienced, I got three kids that never once had to deal with water breaks.

Kenny Holt (04:01)
Nah, cause like with Micah, they had to go in and take this sharp little tool and like start the induction. They had to break the water for Micah. But yeah, but this time it broke. And it's like a filmy like substance and it was like all over the bed and like the little examination bed. like I was kind of pissing the doctor off cause I was like, and the doctor was like, dude, you for real?

AJ Adams (04:08)
So yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that's different, yeah.

Kenny Holt (04:27)
Yo, the doctor was pissed at me. She was like, yo, we gonna have this baby with no drama. I'm sitting here like, yo, don't touch me. Get this shit off me. But yeah, so the water broke. I'm like, damn, nigga, where my gloves at? I need some gloves too. But yeah, the water broke. crazy time. Like, if you never experienced it, it's like the craziest experience.

AJ Adams (04:31)
You

Kenny Holt (04:52)
I wish I could just soak it all in. I wish I had somebody videotaping, because it is a time when everything starts to go down, because this time it happened so quickly. So the water broke, and we walked down to the... Actually, we wheelchair or walk down? We wheelchair down to the labor and delivery ward, and they got her in the bed. And then from there, everything progressed pretty quickly.

Did they induce, they had her take the Pitocin. I think it's a pill that gets the uterus going and contracted more. Cause yeah, she only pushed for like 10, 15 minutes and he was out. So this happened really quickly. And for her, I guess it was a good thing. Like she didn't tear, I hope this isn't getting too deep, but she didn't tear, like no C-sections. I know she's happy about that. God is good. Baby came out healthy, but yeah, crazy time.

AJ Adams (05:46)
Yeah. So what's crazy is, the last time is where I wasn't even there when she went to the hospital. It was, I think she was going, she said something was, something was wrong. But she said, she wasn't going to, I was going to tell her to Uber. I was going to tell her to Uber to the hospital. Cause I was on the other side of town. Like, with the other kids. It's just the part about having those kids in different places.

Kenny Holt (05:52)
Yeah. Okay.

Yeah.

AJ Adams (06:13)
Like in that distance between it, that's where it really comes into play. I remember I was, I I might've been, it wasn't football practice, something like that. But I know I was on the other side of town with the kids and she called me and said, she had to go to the hospital. She ends up going to the hospital and her blood pressure was something ridiculous, right? And they told her, oh yeah, you're not leaving this hospital till the baby's born.

Kenny Holt (06:35)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (06:41)
This is the baby, think Ari was due in like September. This is July 26th. Like this is like three days after the baby shower. And all of a sudden from that point forward, we are just in the hospital for like a week because they don't want to try to get the, they got to get the baby out because

Kenny Holt (06:54)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (07:06)
just to make sure she's stable. I'm not getting to the medical terms. I don't know about that shit. It was a blur now, but I know they said she's not going to be able to get out of this hospital until the baby's born. And they want to try to keep the baby in her for as long as they can until she gets to like, what is it, 36 weeks or whatever. Somebody out there going to correct me on this and they watch it, whatever, right?

Kenny Holt (07:09)
Yeah.

.

Yeah.

AJ Adams (07:34)
Whoever, however long it is, they suppose to wait. They had totaled the wait to that point. And just, I just know we were in the hospital that entire time. Like, like it was like at least a good week just in the hospital. And that's when I remember like I wasn't, like when you talked about it was a happy time for you, man, I know I was, I was hell to deal with because

Kenny Holt (07:43)
Yeah, damn.

Yeah.

AJ Adams (08:03)
I didn't want to be there. I was uncomfortable as hell. was, I was still working. I mean, I had

Kenny Holt (08:09)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (08:09)
no days off. like I was unprepared. I was still trying to find the balance of, you know, seeing my other kids and all of that while trying to go through normal everyday life when knowing I need to put everything on pause.

and just worry about what's going on here in the hospital. I didn't do that. And so when you're like, your whole time in the hospital is like a gift. Man, my shit felt like a, it was waiting for a gift to come, but it was so just like, man, was a rough time. that, and I mean, later on she said something to me that resonated. I...

Kenny Holt (08:30)
Wow. ⁓

Yeah.

AJ Adams (08:51)
You know, I apologized down the road for my actions, for how I was, because I was, like I said before, I was not on my best behavior as I should have been in the hospital, right? But she did say to me, because I complained about how, you know, them fucking goddamn chairs and sofas we got to sleep on, like, yo, like how uncomfortable this is, and I complained about that, then she said something to me that resonated, like, yo, like, how uncomfortable do you think I've been? I was like, oh.

Kenny Holt (09:07)
Yeah.

Mm.

Wow. Yeah. Puts things into perspective, man.

AJ Adams (09:20)
Well, well, shit.

Yeah, but I didn't even think about it at this man. You got to think at that time, I'm still trying to really navigate. I watched that. Was it the Terrence Crawford fight? I took the fire stick from the house. You know, I got the bootleg joint. got the know, I got the hat joint. So I've got the the pay-per-view fight on in the hospital watching the fight after leaving like my cousin's birthday party. It was a it was a it was a lot.

Kenny Holt (09:37)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (09:47)
It was a lot, but I never had to deal with like a water break or nothing like that.

Kenny Holt (09:50)
Yeah, it's crazy. the wild thing about just being a child's father or welcoming like a newborn is every experience is different. There's no cookie cutter way that this thing happens. You just got to embrace how your experience happens. So I do want to get in to one thing. I'm going to tell a story that, it's probably less than 10 people that know this. I want to talk about when Kennedy was born because

AJ Adams (10:06)
Mm-mm.

Kenny Holt (10:20)
Nobody knows this. Like I wasn't there. Like people think, probably think or assume that, you know, I was, but I wasn't. And they probably think that because how involved I am and how much I do love Kennedy. And if Kennedy you're watching this, Tiff you're watching this, I just wanted to say, I apologize for not being there. I'll tell the story and this is hard for me. So if I get all emotional and stuff, man, edit this out, whatever. But,

AJ Adams (10:45)
No. What?

Kenny Holt (10:47)
yeah.

Nah, they don't gotta edit. It's cool, because we're all cool with it. I got everybody's consent to even be talking about this. So yeah, at the time when Kendi got here, around that time, the days leading into it, me and Tiff, we were not in a good space, just arguing or whatever. We both had our, the place is where we live. She had a house, I had my spot. And so we just decided-

AJ Adams (10:49)
Yeah, I know. Go ahead. Yeah.

Kenny Holt (11:13)
Probably a week before that, it'd be just good for us to just be separate, you know, still communicate and keep each other posted to what's going on. So this was like a Sunday night. I had my boy, Jay Dot. He was in town. He was staying at my spot. Hell, we may have even went out on that Sunday night. But all I remember is hitting up Tiffany or she may have hit me up and I...

I was like, yo, everything good? Because even though we weren't on the best terms, I used to make sure she was fed, had food, as comfortable as she could be in a separate household. So just remember she was like, yeah, everything is cool. This was probably like 10, 11 at night. I was just doing the final check-in. Okay, well, all right. Well, let me know if anything happens. So I think me and Jay might, we went out that night and got back home. I was tired.

And I just remember waking up the next morning to get ready for work around, what was it like, maybe six or seven o'clock, because Kenny was born fairly early in the morning, maybe like around five or something. I wake up at like six to probably about a hundred messages and missed calls. So immediately, I already knew what it was. I yelled out to Jay, was like, yo, Jay, get ready. We got to go to the hospital. So I don't even call nobody.

I don't call anybody until we're in the car headed down the highway towards the hospital, because I knew what it was. Nervous, scared. I was like, damn. So when we finally get there to the hospital, they're like washing Kennedy off. That first cry and I still see the blood on her whatever. And so at that point, it was like crazy emotional because like, damn, how the hell did I miss the birth of my first child?

And at the same time, it's like, damn, this is the birth of my first child. So it's like, I had all types of stuff going through my head. And it felt kind of weird, just like with you, it felt weird being there. I felt like I had let, know, Kendi down, even Tip down and just think Tip's mom was there and her cousin. I felt like a loser. I did not feel like a good child's father.

in this case, in the moment. And so what that did to me because I wasn't able to be there for her birth, I think even to this day, it makes me overcompensate with being a good dad for her. So I understand I can't be just because it's like a co-parent relationship. I can't be there 100 % of the time, but I could just make sure I show up when I can. so that's...

That's what I've been living by since she's been born. And you can't really say that you have a favorite kid, but I think just because of that, holds a very special place in my heart. And so my thing to kind of make up for missing her birth, I made sure when Micah came, I made sure Kennedy was in the room. So at that point, Kennedy and she witnessed the birth and you know.

AJ Adams (14:02)
Wow.

Kenny Holt (14:06)
Leneese almost even peed on her. Probably scarred Kindy from then. crazy. That's another story for a different day. I definitely want to tell that too. Hell, I might even have Kindy on here to tell you that story. So she's...

AJ Adams (14:09)
my god.

I look, man, I don't know how

many hospital stories we're gonna have. You might as well just let it go.

Kenny Holt (14:22)
So, Kennedy, she saw Micah come out and Kai come out. So, that was my way to kind of make up for not being there with her. And it was crazy because this was what? Micah's two and a half. So, almost three years ago, Kennedy was where she's... So, she wasn't even old enough to be in the room. But I said, nah, Kennedy's going to be in this room. So, I made Kennedy tell a fib and tell her she was...

AJ Adams (14:25)
⁓

Kenny Holt (14:49)
tell the staff that she was older than what she was. It worked. She was in the building and all good. And she wouldn't miss it for the world. I mean, it probably impacted her as far as her having children in the future, but she wouldn't miss her brother's birth for anything. So, yeah, man.

AJ Adams (15:07)
You know

what's funny? So speaking of that, when it's in a room, it's always, you're right, it's always different stories for different people. Like, I'd never seen any of them, that's another thing. I've never seen any of my children come out. I don't go below the neck. Like, haven't, I've never, but I do remember.

Kenny Holt (15:22)
Mm.

Okay.

AJ Adams (15:29)
It means I remember being, um, I told this on here before when I was terrified when my daughter was born, my first daughter was born because like, I don't know what it was and she was stuck or whatever or something, but I know they hit a button and all of a sudden all of these nurses start running into the room and one literally, they pushed me out the way. One literally gets on top of the, on top of Aubrey's mother.

and starts pushing on her stomach, literally, standing over top of her. And I can barely see her mother through like these bodies of nurses, right? She's looking right at me and then she blacks out completely. Like, goes stiff, goes limp, passes out. And I'm in there and I'm like, oh my God, what the hell is going on? I don't know, she's dying. I don't know if the baby's coming out. No one's saying anything to me.

Kenny Holt (16:15)
Okay.

AJ Adams (16:27)
It's all kind of chaos and Nessie, know, is a baby out and she wakes up and it's like, my god. I don't know if I ever want to do this again and a year later, my ass is in the same thing. Like it's like, my gosh. my god.

Kenny Holt (16:34)
Yeah.

Yo.

AJ Adams (16:45)
Like I can't, I, I, but I, I couldn't imagine, I don't even, so I can't imagine being in a room like, like you said, your daughter was in a room. I can't imagine even me being a parent, like being in a room for my daughter having it. I don't want to be in a, I don't see myself being in any more ⁓ hospital rooms. It ain't for me. It ain't for me. It ain't for me at all.

Kenny Holt (16:46)
That's crazy.

It ain't fair, but yeah, yeah.

It's definitely not fair, but I'd be having to be there because I might need to intervene and like, you know, get my doctor on and do whatever I need to do. So, but I'd be having to see that. No, I'm not even. yeah. It's a wrap. Yeah.

AJ Adams (17:16)
I having no more kids. I ain't having no more kids,

so I ain't gotta be in no hospital room like that no more.

What was it like to transition home? How was your transition home been?

Kenny Holt (17:25)
That's it. Say what?

it's been cool. The first thing I will say, the staff at the place, the Berthes Center or the hospital where we had a kayak was like 81. They made it like we were standing at the Ritz Carlton, like waited on us hand and foot, never went hungry. Of course they, we left with all the diapers, all the swaddled blankets.

All the formula because Lenisa's breastfeeding and supplemented with some formula Yeah, and they gave it to of course we paid for but they gave us all the supplies we needed to go home To make an easy transition. So shout out to the staff at the no vine Valentine Medical Center a one treatment

AJ Adams (18:09)
And you know what,

before you go further, I'm gonna piggyback on that, how important that really is, man. Because I had to stay, like I said, we was in that hospital for an extended period of time. And then my daughter was in a NICU. that having a good hospital staff, it means everything.

Kenny Holt (18:31)
yeah.

AJ Adams (18:31)
It

means everything because it takes the stresses off of you. you got to understand, my daughter was born, she came into the world to R &B playing. Like, we had our own speakers. We had a Bluetooth speaker. We had, once we realized the stuff was about to go down, we started playing this old playlist coming out and everything. it's... it was a whole... We got to notice that personally. I had my own little stuff I brought from Egypt with me, just like...

fertility shit. I was in there while I was walking out that hospital, man. And to have a staff that's willing to help you out and be there for you at all times, like especially one that's considerate of the dad, like that understands that low goal. Like, yeah, mom's going to be on your ass and you got to take it. Stay in there, stay on the fight. Like we know you're tired. You're doing a good job. Like that shit.

And I'm in there at, and I'm doing my daughter's feeding at six o'clock in the morning because I don't really want the nurses to do it. I'm doing it or her mother's doing it because she's in a NICU and they're making sure that, yo, here, here's a hot blanket for you or something. Just little stuff like that. That goes a very, very, very long way. So I'm glad you brought that up. That's, that's very important.

Kenny Holt (19:49)
Yeah, and another thing too, because sometimes we're in those rooms, so of course it's been two and a half times that I've been in a room. Sometimes we don't always get a voice in there, because I noticed with Micah, the doctors and nursing staff were speaking more to the niece whenever they were giving instructions on what to do when we get home and things of that nature. But this particular time, they were speaking to me too, like included me. It's like, damn, I'm here, I'm right here.

I'm gonna have to do some things too. I'm have to remember what to do in certain situations as well. So yeah, shout out to this one. And it is important, the place that you choose to have a baby or deliver a baby, because yeah, it can make or break your whole experience for real.

AJ Adams (20:29)
Yeah. But since you've been home.

Kenny Holt (20:31)
Yeah, so we got home. Everything was good. know, Kai is good. Micah, had Micah, so step back, we had Micah come visit Kai before we came home. Just because I didn't want any, you know, I didn't want Micah to any certain kind of way about Kai. So we had to meet at the hospital, which anybody in this situation, I would recommend doing that. And we actually bought Micah a gift.

and had Kai, told Micah it was from Kai. It was like a Paw Patrol watch or Cars watch, one of the two. And Micah loved it. So that kind of helped break the ice between Micah and Kai. Got home, everything's been cool. I think we were home for a day. Then the very next day, Lene started feeling, she wasn't feeling too well. Like her blood pressure had spiked.

and she was having like some hemorrhaging going on, blood clots or whatever. her OB, she was messaging the OB on the app and they were like, well, you you need to go to ER. So then it's like after my emotions had already settled from the birth and just being at the hospital and getting home, starting to get in our groove, it gets jacked right back up because we got to rush down to the ER. And so we're in the ER, the doctor's checking everything out.

They get her blood pressure down. So that was like the first thing, get her blood pressure down. So that was normal. And then they went and did like a pelvic exam and cleaned out some stuff. So that was good as well. And she had like some, she was having like really bad migraines and they gave her some medicine for that and everything calmed down. So it was stressful when we first went in, but the staff, the NER got everything back right.

And then they sent us home. So we've been good since then. But yeah, it was just, went from yay baby, new baby to at home chilling and then back to the ER. It was like, you know, a roller coaster. But right now we're just in our groove. I'm right now running off of like three hours of sleep. Cause what he's doing is he's eating every what? Two and a half, three hours, sometimes even more. Super greedy. And like right now the real work sets in.

We're having to establish like routine, who does what. If she pumps and she has some in the reserve, if she's sleep, then I'll just put it in the bottle and just feed them out the bottle instead of her putting him on her breasts. So it's a lot, but you know, we're making it happen.

AJ Adams (23:02)
So to that, right? This is a different dynamic than you had before, where now you have a baby and a toddler in the house, right? So when you got to make these trips to the ER, right? Well, before, it's, let's say something happened with Micah, Kennedy's at least 10 years old. She's coming with you. You jump in the car. We all get together. It's a little different now.

Kenny Holt (23:27)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (23:29)
with you having this two year old. So how has that transition really been like, hey, that attention that that 10 year old needed, she understands that's going to be going to this, this new baby. How does it happen with that two year old? How's that been?

Kenny Holt (23:45)
You kind of just communicate to him as best as possible. It's tough and I will say we're still trying to figure that piece out. Just managing having a two year old, two and a half year old and a newborn. So kudos to him because so far all he's wanted to do is kiss the baby, kiss Kai, love on him.

And I don't know if there'll ever be a time where he might feel a certain kind of way. So just stay tuned on that. Cause all we can do right now is just talk to him like, look, the baby needs this. I gotta put you down. I gotta hold the baby and feed him, give him some time and I'll be right back. Just kind of letting him know nothing's permanent. just that the baby needs its own time. So.

AJ Adams (24:30)
I feel like I was fortunate in that. Well, I mean, my youngest doesn't, my kid's much older, right? But when those two went between Aubrey and Jett, know, Aubrey was one. She was just 13 months by the time Jett came home. She was less than 13 months. And, you know, I was grateful in the fact that instantly she was just all about her brother.

And I wonder if it was different also because they were different genders, right? So there was never like, there was always gonna be different type of things I was doing with her. So it never felt like the attention was gonna be just always to him or all that, he's like that. And she was always about him. But also I've always been a type like when he's crying and crying and crying, me and her would be sitting on the couch looking at each other like, I hope he stops.

Kenny Holt (25:21)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (25:21)
So

me and her always had that dynamic, so it never really affected us that way. So how has it been for you though, now being that you're 40, right? You are now in your 40s with two babies. How is your energy actually feeling right now? Because we could try to do certain things, younger parents, all that. Now like, yeah.

You got revitalized with your, you know, two years ago, you had it. That's that energy boost. Is it still feel like you have that boost again now that you had another one?

Kenny Holt (25:56)
Hell nah, that boost is gone. You know like when you play a video game, you gotta like hit that boost and you press that button too long and it runs out? Man, I've been pressing that button way too long. I'm on E, but...

AJ Adams (25:59)
yeah!

Kenny Holt (26:11)
what you do, you just gotta pull it from within. And that's where the pleasure and joys of being a father comes in and that will be your boost. Now, you could do things like the natural things. I've been, lately I've been drinking green tea, taking vitamin B12, just like natural stuff to kinda, yeah, you know what I'm saying? That's all you can really do, but your fuel for fatherhood.

AJ Adams (26:29)
Old man stuff, I got you, ⁓

Kenny Holt (26:38)
is gonna what? Propels you through those long nights, through changing the baby at 2.30 a.m. when you gotta be up for work at 6 a.m. Dude.

AJ Adams (26:48)
Sounds good.

Kenny Holt (26:50)
We just get it done. You know this, it's just with anything. Whether it's a two week old or a two year old or a 12 year old, you just got to get it done, man. We love our kids and that's how we roll.

AJ Adams (26:53)
I know.

Yeah. So has there been any source of extra motivation or anything like that or all that cliche stuff? Does it still happen the third time around when it's as close together, right? The last time you had a little gap, this time it's like,

Kenny Holt (27:19)
It is like, again, but this time it's actually, it's less stressful because I know now that Kai is going to have a playmate. And so we just got to get through this short little time where Kai can't walk or anything like that. Once he gets to crawling and walking around and they can go do stuff and rumble and bumble together around the crib. That's what I'm looking forward to. We'll see.

AJ Adams (27:41)
⁓ until

they start fighting and shit. Yeah, yeah, you get it. It all sounds, they all cuddly best friends until like, give me that controller. And when that starts, then it's, yeah, it's a whole different world. Well, I'm happy for you, man. I'm glad you, behind the scenes, look, we was actually going to record the day that everything happened when she went to the hospital. And that's just the way real life goes with parenthood, man.

Kenny Holt (27:45)
⁓ man, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

AJ Adams (28:09)
plan much. You can try, especially with a newborn, all these things is going to constantly be there. And I appreciate you taking the time out your day. I hope this was beneficial for you as well. We never even had this conversation prior to now because we wanted to save it for here. So I appreciate it. It was good. It was good.

Kenny Holt (28:19)
Christian.

Yeah. Yep.

Again, thank you for having me and man, just thank you for being like a true professional. Yeah, we couldn't do it the other day. We had just got home, know, just your flexibility made it happen. Cause actually, like I'm your guest, but like you're actually doing me a favor, you know what I'm saying? By having you all here and giving me this voice.

It's like, it's worth his weight in gold, man. It's just, appreciate you. I love you, man. You know, we've been boys for a long time. We done had our ins and outs and everything, man. You a good dude. You know, just to give people some background, when we first met, it was of course Kappa, right? It brought us together. I didn't like your ass. I thought your ass was cocky. And you know, your line name is Confrontation. I didn't like all that shit. You was...

AJ Adams (28:58)
Yeah?

Kenny Holt (29:16)
You was from DC, you already think y'all cool, but I will say 20 something years later, however long it's been, you've been a solid dude. You got this good platform and people that have children, such as myself, appreciate you and keep doing your thing,

AJ Adams (29:33)
People that know, that's why I do it because fatherhood can change a whole lot of shit about you because goddamn Pre-kids me after kids me is not even close to the same person not even close. Yeah Yeah, and I tell you

Kenny Holt (29:44)
Nah, I done seen your growth. I didn't think you would ever grow up. Hey, but you did it, And I know, and you know,

we never stay stagnant. It's continuous, right? So just keep doing your thing.

AJ Adams (29:59)
And I want to say, your conversation, pretty sure, can help a lot of people, especially because a lot of people are going through, they have no idea what to expect when they're going into this thing. When they're going into this hospital, if you got a baby on the way, it could be nerve, especially your first time, it's nerve wracking. It's nerve wracking. I never, I feel like I never really totally discussed what it was like, because I'm telling you, you need to be present. You need to be there. I knew all the things I was supposed to do.

Kenny Holt (30:16)
All right. Yeah.

AJ Adams (30:28)
I knew all the things, all the places I was supposed to be, all the conversation I really supposed to have, all the encouragement I was supposed to give. I just didn't fucking do it. You know what mean? Because I had my own stuff going on. I felt like my own situation. And you can't do that because you put everything in danger with that. If you know better, you do better. So I just didn't know. Actually, I did know. I didn't care. And that's fucked up. That's fucked up. Yeah. Oh well. I ain't doing it again, though.

Kenny Holt (30:34)
All right. Yeah.

yeah. Okay. All right.

It's a wrap. Yeah, all right brother.

AJ Adams (30:59)
That's a wrap for that. A wrap for this episode too. I appreciate you.