Just My Baby Daddy Podcast

Are Today’s Kids Too Soft? | Building Resilient Children in a Modern World

AJ Adams


In this episode of the Just My Baby Daddy podcast, AJ Adams and Chris discuss the perceived softness of today's children compared to previous generations. They explore the concept of resilience in children, how parenting styles have evolved, and the importance of allowing kids to face challenges independently. The conversation delves into the role of environment, setting expectations, and leading by example in fostering resilience. Ultimately, they emphasize the balance between encouraging independence and providing support as parents.



00:00 The Softness of Today's Kids
04:51 Parental Influence on Resilience
09:21 The Role of Environment in Resilience
14:13 The Importance of Self-Defense for Kids


AJ Adams (00:01.442)
Welcome to another episode of Just My Baby Daddy podcast. It's your favorite baby daddy, AJ. And today we have a interesting subject that's coming about that started from a conversation I had when talking with one of my dad friends. And we were just talking about, you know, these kids nowadays. They was doing a sports event and, you know, crying on the field and like, you don't get in the game. It's cold on the sidelines. Like these kids are soft.

Kids nowadays is getting softer and softer left and right. And I decided I'm gonna have this conversation with another parent that I know completely understands what I'm talking about. And so what I decided to do, I reached out to my man, Chris, and I appreciate you being on the podcast today.

Chris (00:47.55)
for sure. for it. Let's do this.

AJ Adams (00:51.03)
So let me start off by asking you a question, right? We always talk about our kids are soft because they're not built as tough as we used to be. They're not like resilient as we used to be. But what exactly does resiliency in a child look like to you?

Chris (00:54.52)
Mm.

Chris (01:06.841)
So resiliency to me is having the ability to overcome their own challenges, right? Without having to first come to a parent or an adult to kind of resolve some of their issues. And when I think about resiliency for kids is, know, like when we were young, you fall off a bike, you get up and get back on it, right? I think a of the kids these days, if they fall, they're talking to somebody, right? Old kids, you know, they don't know how to.

that simply dusts off and keep it moving. So I think about resiliency. I think about the kids that grew up in the 80s and 90s. I think about the kids as like, you that we're, you know, we're gonna keep it trucking no matter what happens. And so that's what I think about what I think about resiliency.

AJ Adams (01:51.263)
So is that just something that you think we just had or is that something we were taught?

Chris (01:56.577)
I think that was our culture. think, you know, that was the time of, you know, when parents would send their kids out in the morning and tell them not to come back until lunchtime or dinner. And you had to deal when you were, you know, in that timeframe. And I think we're, I think we are, and the people around us are different kinds of parents, right? Where, you know, where parents go with their kids to the park, right? We, you know, we do that today. I we watched our kids at the park before.

I don't remember either one of my parents taking me to the park. I just remember being at the park, right? And so I think that the lack of resilience is not really on their part. I think that's on ours. I think that's on us. I think we did that.

AJ Adams (02:39.885)
So do you think we're felling the kids? So here's another thing I think about at times too. I hate to generalize saying like the kids nowadays because I think because the environments that I see kids in and the kids that I'm around, right? So my kids are around, I say it all the time, like my son is a full blown suburban baby. You know what I mean? So it's like.

Chris (02:55.193)
Mm-hmm.

Chris (03:02.423)
Absolutely, absolutely.

AJ Adams (03:05.611)
I don't know, so all of the kids he's around are the same way. And I don't know if their parents went through the same type of thing or whatever, because like, that's a new lifestyle for me. Like he's getting a lifestyle that I never grew up with.

Chris (03:17.945)
man, if that ain't the most truth. Like look, So obviously I grew up, you know, in Atlanta, I grew up on the East side. It was kind of hood out there. My son, he wants to act like, know, every now and again that he's hood. I'm like, no, no, bro, you from Fairfax. Ain't nothing hood about you. You know what mean? Like you ain't had to fight a real day in your life. You know what mean? And so, but that's us. That's us being untrustworthy of the world around us. But it's also us being untrustworthy.

of the kids we're putting out in the streets. You know what mean? Like, we don't trust our kids to be able to protect themselves. We don't trust our kids to be able to make the decisions that they need to make to protect themselves. And I think that's on us.

AJ Adams (03:57.804)
How do you think that is though? But see, I differ a little bit to a certain extent because I definitely, I try to put my kids in situations where it's like, yo, you just got to figure it out. Like even if it's little stuff like breakfast, like, hey, we're not about to give you a bunch of options. You want to figure it out. What's in the cabinet, make it work. know, fuck it. I'm tired. I'm not about to be catering to you all day long.

Chris (04:02.807)
Okay.

Chris (04:16.087)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (04:25.516)
You know what mean? So maybe I'm coming from that old school parent mentality, like, yes, I live for my kids, but I'm not catering to your ass all the time.

Chris (04:29.058)
See you.

Chris (04:34.784)
So I agree to a point, right? So I let my kids do a lot of stuff. I allow them to do stuff that might get them in, like that might allow them to be dangerous, right? So I let them climb trees with, know, with, I don't think a lot of parents do, or I let my daughters go to the, to the park, but I do so with knowing that I'm doing something that's uncommon, right? I put an air tag on them so I know where they're going, but I'm letting them go to the park on their own. Hey, look.

I'm still 20, 25. Like, you know what mean? I put an airtack on him in a minute. But.

AJ Adams (05:03.02)
That's a digital leash. But it's smart though.

Chris (05:10.104)
It is, it's a digital leash. But that's also letting them know that I'm giving them the leeway to go do and explore on their own. And we have a talk like, look, if you won't go here, people gonna talk to you crazy, bring your butt home, call me on your phone, call me on your watch or whatnot. But I think it's important for us to give them the space.

to do things that might otherwise seem dangerous. And I think as fathers, particularly, that's our job, right? Because whenever I see dads interacting with their kids, it's like, that might be dangerous. Or when I see moms, it's not quite the same. You remember the merry-go-rounds, right, that we used to have? There was one up the street from us, and the dads would turn that thing on something vicious. was like kids falling off, you know? But I think that's kind of the thing that's different to that from a mom.

is that a mom is gonna be like, we're gonna go around it really slow. But dad's like, no, we're gonna turn this thing up. And you hold on for their life, you know what mean? And I think that's the difference between dad and mom. But I think that the real job of a dad is to prepare a kid for the outside world. That's the job. That's what you have to do, right? And some of that is to, I'm preparing you to see danger, to avoid danger, and to deal with it as it has gonna happen, right?

when you, when, when the, not even danger, like just hard things, hard things are going to happen. But it's the, it's the job of the dad. We're like, look, it's a hard thing that's going to happen. You got to push through. And this is how we push through. And that's where resiliency comes from. And that's kind of the thing that I push for my kids every day. You know, I tell my son, do the hard things first and then the easy things second. Do the hard stuff first and then the easy things second. That way you don't have to worry about it. Cause the hard things always going to happen. You can either choose.

You can choose to do the hard things or the hard things would choose when they come after you. You can choose. And so that's the way, that's my philosophy when it comes to parenting. So if you ask them today, they'll like, yeah, dad says do the hard stuff first. That's what we do.

AJ Adams (07:11.424)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (07:20.939)
So do you feel resiliency different than your daughters? Do you do your son?

Chris (07:26.262)
Absolutely not. fact, in fact, this is thing that I do with with my kids, whereas they tell me they're bored. I got something for you. And most of time is physical labor. Right. And so yesterday, my daughter, my oldest daughter, she's 11. She was like, Daddy, I'm really bored. I'm like, I got you. I got you. I said, you can do three minutes worth of planks. And she looked at me and she was like, wait a minute. You're not supposed to. I'm your baby. I'm like, no, This you know, this is

This is what I do. This is my response to that statement. I'm bored. I got work for you. Right? She was like, I was just playing. I know you're bored. I got you. So she told me that I can't do three minutes worth of planks. I was like, of course you can. You can do three minutes. And she was like, no, I can't. And it's funny having a daughter. the tears don't affect me like they used to. They still affect me. But,

Wait, we got out of that. She did the three minutes worth of planks. She cried through it. But what we got after that is like, I showed her that although you thought it was impossible for you to do, I knew as a dad that you could do it and that it would be hard. It would be hard. It was hard. Her body was shaking and everything. But when she got through with it, she like, I did that. I was like, yes, you did that. So.

AJ Adams (08:49.034)
See, that's much better than me, man, because when my kids say shit like that to me, I do not give that type of response. I say, look, I gave you a sibling. Like, figure it out. Like, straight up. You got siblings, you figure it out.

Chris (09:00.841)
Mm-mm. No.

I mean, we all got our ways, but that was meant for a specific thing, right? Because she knows the way, she knows what I do when one of my kids stay on board. Okay. Because otherwise, if they're bored, they know they got stuff to do. They got toys, they got video games, they can go outside and play. If you tell me you're bored, you need me to help you. And I got you. I got you. I help. So.

AJ Adams (09:30.506)
knew what she was getting herself into.

Chris (09:32.906)
yeah, she thought she was gonna get out of it though. She thought I was just joking. Nah, nah. You knew what you was getting into. You know, you knew it. And so she did that three minutes. She did three minutes with the planks. So.

AJ Adams (09:37.883)
yeah.

AJ Adams (09:45.865)
So what do you think you built up your resiliency from?

Chris (09:50.933)
Ah, man, I don't know. I, look, I admit, man, I think I was a soft kid. I, you know, I grew up, I think I was somewhat sheltered a little bit. I mean, I had a little gangster family, but they pretty much sheltered me from a lot of that stuff. But again, I did grow up in the 80s. So it wasn't, I didn't, the thing about me is that don't seek help, and I never have, you know what mean? That's probably things I should do as an adult. But like, I think,

Part of that is growing up as a man in the 90s and 2000s and whatnot is that we learn that it might be a toxic thing of mine that I like to stand on my own two feet and I'm gonna make it work one way or another, right? But I think part of that came was from this environment I came from. You gotta stand on your own two feet, you gotta feed yourself, you gotta house yourself. You can't let everybody.

do the things that you have to do. And especially as I became a father, I was like, well, I am the example that my kids see. you know, and I hear people say all the time, you know, remember parents used to say, do as I, as I say, not as I do. The fact is they all do as you do. And so I am going to be the example and that's, you know, that's what I'm do. that's part of what I'm, I don't know if I became resilient as a parent. I don't think so. I think I was resilient.

probably as a high schooler, know, as an older brother, as a son of a single mother who, you know, who struggled every day, right? You know, I had to help raise my brother every day. And we did that. It was me and him for a lot of part, you know. So, you know, mom brought the food home and she, you know, she worked as much as she did. She worked sometimes 16 to 20 hours a day for, you know, months at a time. So it was me and him, you know. That's probably where I came from.

AJ Adams (11:49.641)
So you think you saw it from your mother as well?

Chris (11:53.204)
Oh, absolutely. mean, mom, she was, she, she, she worked hard as fuck. Um, but being, being that, you know, I had a single mom as a parent and I'm just the oldest sibling. I'm like, look, you know, we're going to make it, we're going to make it happen. We're at, we're at home. learned to cook on my own. learned to, you know, make sure that, you know, that my, that my brother did his homework, that he learned his shit, that we both got our homework done. Um, that one he was protected because we went outside, you know, he got older kids working with him, you know, like, right, well.

If you fight, we all can fight. you know what mean? So.

AJ Adams (12:29.317)
Yeah, mean, like for me, I feel like I've always been Brazilian ever since a kid. it's just whatever I've been through. mean, I...

Chris (12:29.502)
So.

Chris (12:34.46)
Yeah? Nah. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure I was suffering. Yeah. Nah.

AJ Adams (12:39.314)
You got to, you come to, well, I know I wasn't a soft kid, as a kid, mean, when you got, you got to deal with death and all this other stuff and losing parents and all that other stuff as a young kid, I had no choice.

Chris (12:49.362)
Yeah, yeah, I think you had to. I think you just grew up fast. I think you just grew up fast. Yeah.

AJ Adams (12:56.23)
Yeah, that's what... And I think that's what happens to a lot of us. A lot of us grew up fast and I think we may mistake that as resiliency, which I don't necessarily want my kids. So it's just that violence, right? I don't want my kids to get the resiliency through the means in which I had to get it.

Chris (13:08.797)
Yeah.

Chris (13:19.378)
Yeah, yeah, that's rough. don't want that. That's traumatizing. You know what mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

AJ Adams (13:21.511)
Like not at all. Right. Because I say it all the time, like I... It's crazy. Like my kids were never experiencing... I don't think my son was experiencing... I know he hasn't so far. Experiencing jumping the chain link fence, right? To me, it's just something just as a boy. You're a boy, you just do. But I can't even see myself wanting my son to be in an environment in which he has to, or even around fucking chain link fences.

Chris (13:37.01)
Mm-hmm.

Chris (13:41.852)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (13:50.907)
You know, so it's, it's, it's kind of tough ways. Like I want them to build it, but I need to find the right means in which to have them do it.

Chris (13:58.866)
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think the same thing, you know, I mean, like, obviously, we're here in Fairfax, there's no point in jumping jangling things, right? We don't really, they don't get into fights out here. But like, I find that, like, if I want to really prepare them for the world without me, then they have to have some resilience. They're need to go through some tough times. They're gonna need to find ways to like, to power through. And, you know, I find ways to push them.

AJ Adams (14:00.027)
And that bomb is-

Chris (14:27.026)
in ways that I think is healthy that shows them that they can do it. So like I said, with my daughter, I made her do the planks. I got a similar story with Aiden with my son. He was like eight and he was doing something. He said he couldn't do something. That's the thing. When they tell me they can't do something, I'm like, we can't. Well, watch, let's do this. You know what mean? Yeah, you can't do it. but of course you can.

AJ Adams (14:47.844)
Yeah, we're gonna make it do it. Yeah.

Chris (14:52.85)
And it might be something crazy. you know, Aiden said he couldn't do a hundred pushups. I'm like, oh, absolutely you can. Absolutely you can. You can do a hundred pushups. He was like eight years old. We went through a hundred pushups. It took him like 10 minutes, but we got it. And then he got up and he was like extra proud about it. And being Aiden being my older son, I can see the effects of that now. Aiden is 15 now. He just, he's a freshman. He just finished his freshman year and he does track.

And he comes home every day from track worn out, worn out. And he, he's okay with the adversity. He's okay with the work. I think part of that is one that made him do the work early, right? We, we're going to do the hard stuff and be okay with doing the hard stuff. Um, and he's okay with it. And not only that, he sees me doing the hardest stuff. He sees me at home, um, working out with my trainer. He sees me going to the gym.

doing the jiu jitsu, he sees me going to crop and fighting people that are way bigger than me. He sees me doing that. So again, I'm the example. He's just following the path that, you know, that he sees me cutting in front of him.

AJ Adams (16:04.518)
Let me ask you this, do you think you took the steps to become the example before you had children? Seeing as though you're a little brother and because I see that a lot with, especially with single moms. If you grow up in a single mom household, especially if it's younger brothers, like they really, the older brother in the household starts to really take on that male role. Do you think you started it then or?

Chris (16:20.817)
Yeah.

Chris (16:25.84)
Yeah, yeah.

Chris (16:33.97)
absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. So this is what I noticed when I was, you know, we was at home. I'm about five years older than my younger brother. And I recognized my bad habits in him early, right? You know, when I was like maybe in the 10th grade, he was like fifth or sixth grade, right? If I came home with a potty mouth, I'm talking shit all day. Immediately I saw that in him, right? If I didn't do my homework and I gave some excuse about not doing my homework.

same excuses came out of him. So I saw that, you know, I was like, wow, you know, it doesn't matter what I say. Like I can say, you gotta do this and you gotta do this. He's like, well, you don't.

Like it made sense, like, shit, you know, I gotta, I gotta fix that. And so, yeah, I think it probably came out of, you know, being an older sibling, that it started, it started waving, you know, and now when I look back and we in Jay talk, a lot of the, a lot of the things that we learned together, cause I think those, some of those traits we learned at the same time and he's a father too, and he shows some of the same traits as a father that I do, right? You're like, look, you know, it's gonna be tough.

I'm gonna help you, I'm gonna help you pass it, but you gotta walk your own walk. This is your path to walk, but you don't have to walk it alone, but you do have to walk it. So, that's for sure.

AJ Adams (17:55.32)
Yeah. Now do you see those traits in your kids with your oldest son?

Chris (18:00.473)
I do, I do. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like I see him put in the work. Like I set lofty expectations for him. In fact, for the track, he set his own expectations. He said he wanted to go to state. He's a freshman. There's no way he's going to state, right? But he did letter. He got his varsity letter as a freshman, right? He got past his school. He got into the districts. He almost made regionals.

He made his own goal. It was lofty, but he went for it. He put everything he had into it. So yeah, I definitely see that. And I see that in my daughters. My youngest daughter does martial arts. She wants to fight. I'm like, all right, let's do it. you know. So yeah, I see them traits in them. About what? About which part?

AJ Adams (18:50.341)
How do you feel about that? Just sidebar. Your daughter won the fight.

Chris (18:57.188)
So my youngest one, she's a bulldog. She fights me every day, right? I showed her how to do a real naked choke. That was a terrible idea. Because she can do it on me. And technically, she can put me out, technically speaking. But I think for BJJ, I think it's OK for girls. I think fighting is good for kids in general. And I think fighting is especially good for girls.

If they know how to defend themselves, gives them like a sort of confidence that I can't give them, right? If they can walk around knowing that they can defend themselves, I can show them how to fight, but if they know how to fight or how to protect themselves, that's something I can't give them. But yeah, that's, think, know, putting girls in a combat sport is golden.

AJ Adams (19:49.06)
It's funny, I was thinking about, wanted to put my daughter in something like that. She wants no parts. She wanted no parts. But you know what? Neither does my son. I remember a long time ago, I asked him, do you want to box, wrestle, anything like that? He says, my hands are made for football and basketball. And he was like six years old. But yet the boy doesn't play football or basketball. So I put a damn golf club in his hand. So he's stuck with that. Huh?

Chris (19:56.622)
Yeah.

Chris (20:02.968)
Yeah.

Chris (20:10.265)
Yeah.

Chris (20:15.759)
What does he see you doing? What does he see you do? Yay.

AJ Adams (20:19.739)
shit, nothing. He ain't gonna see me do. Look, he shoulda been born earlier. nigga ain't gonna see me do. He wanna see me in a hospital with a torn ACL or a popped Achilles? Hell no. He ain't gonna see me doing that.

Chris (20:34.703)
You can't you probably can't wrestle like a high high level anymore, but you could probably I don't know if they got wrestling

AJ Adams (20:39.876)
Oh, wrestling? Oh no, wrestling, no. I don't even, I didn't want to get him into wrestling because I didn't want to do it anymore because I wouldn't want to deal with him dealing with the cutting of weight and all this other stuff. I know the discipline and stuff that comes with it, but you get disciplined in golf. Come with me, play golf, because I can do that with you for the next 30, 40 years.

Chris (20:46.895)
yeah? okay.

Chris (20:53.966)
Yeah.

Meh. Do you?

So if you play golf, now he wants to play golf, but you see how that works out. Like if you do something, really? Oh man.

AJ Adams (21:06.199)
He doesn't want to though. That's the thing. He does it. Well, and that's, so he's in lessons. He does all of that stuff. But he told his mother and stuff like, doesn't really want to do it, blah, blah, blah. And she said, he said, well, did you tell your dad? And he said, no, because dad's gonna make me do it anyway. And he's right. He's absolutely right. I'm not gonna make him do everything, but I'm gonna make him do golf. Cause he'll pay it off later on.

Chris (21:17.272)
Okay.

Chris (21:25.846)
yeah?

Chris (21:29.184)
That's funny. Yeah, that's funny.

It's it's true. So funny enough is that like, obviously I do combat sports. Two of my kids are into it. My middle child, she's not, she don't want that life at all. She's like, I want to draw and sing. I'm like, all right, do you. But I see some resilience out of her. Like we play fight at home and she does all that shit too, but she don't want to go to a gym and learn that. But you know, again, you know, I think the fact that they see me do it, like every...

I'm consistent with it. You know, I go every Tuesday and Thursday, I go sparring, I go Wednesday, we go roll on the ground. You know what mean? Like clockwork. So they see me doing it. And so every now and again, they're the ones that come with me and want to check it out. And then like when we finish, you know, they want to pick up some gloves, submit some like this, this, you know what mean? But they all like to do something with their, you know, something physically. The youngest one's the only one. It's just like, I just want to fight. She's the only one I want to fight. But yeah.

AJ Adams (22:32.097)
Yeah, well, my kids, I remember telling my son before we had that gender reveal for the baby, I said, look, if it's a boy, you got to teach him everything. Teach him how to throw, run with him, all that shit, because I ain't doing it. I'm too old. Like, what am I looking like by the time? yeah, yeah. You're not, I'm not going to have this revelation like I'm not old and shit. We're not having this conversation. I know myself. My daughter, my daughter.

Chris (22:47.628)
Mmm. Mm-mm.

Chris (22:58.194)
my god. Nah.

AJ Adams (23:02.114)
If she wants to be athletic and everything, I now have, thankfully, enough money to pay for a train or something to run with her ass. I'm not going to do it. I can't imagine. Think about it. At 10 years old, my child will be, I'll be 50. What do I look like running on the field? And I said this the other day, I have not run full speed in about 10 years.

Chris (23:08.706)
Yeah.

Chris (23:12.184)
Mm.

Chris (23:19.116)
Yeah.

Chris (23:28.31)
My man, you have no idea. So actually I did a family relay for Mother's Day. My baby, she did the first leg. My second daughter did the second leg. I did third leg and my son did the fourth leg. I haven't run at full tilt in 10, 15 years. My legs were sore, but I did stretch like hella good before. I don't wanna be the old man over here with a torn hamstring.

But, you know, I did it and I was like, cool. And my son, you know, he's actually, again, he's a track athlete. He was moving. He was trying catch up to the other families. But I don't mind doing that. I think it helps keep me young, you know what I

AJ Adams (24:09.854)
You you say that dad, that police hamstring, I will be that dad. I will be that dad. So I'm like, no, I'm good on that. Those days are done. Those days are done. But, you know, it is good to see that, you know, while the kids aren't resilient in the same ways that we are, that they still have their own built-in resiliency and their own.

Chris (24:13.576)
yeah!

Yeah, I still got it.

Chris (24:32.364)
Yeah.

well, I think some of ours do. I mean, I still see kids that like don't know how to solve their own problems, right? They see any particular problem, I got to ask them for some help, right? And even my own kids, I look up and like, well, you can fix this on your own. But I think it's an ongoing challenge. It's an ongoing thing. It's not just a one time thing. It's like resilience is something that you got to keep building on. It is an everyday thing. I look forward to the lessons that happen, right?

Cause they show themselves every now and again, like this is a moment where I can help you, you know, to just be more resilient. It doesn't happen often. And with my son, it hardly ever happens at all. But the younger ones, it's like every other day, like, well, you know, did you think about this? Did you figure, you know, did you assess the situation? You know what mean? So, but yeah, it's a continuous thing. It's not something that you can do on day one and say, all right, we're good now. Nah, it's a job and hopefully it gets easier. It should be, so.

AJ Adams (25:21.591)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (25:33.281)
Yeah. Well, one last thing. You know, you said we, and this is, we had to stand our own too.

Chris (25:42.092)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (25:44.521)
A lot that's because we really had to and we necessarily didn't have didn't have anybody to reach out to. We didn't have, you know, those other things. So while I want my kids to be resilient, I do want them to be able to settle their own too. But they do know if they start stumbling a little bit, I got their back. So that's a that's that's that's that's the difference. That's the difference. Because I feel like if I stumbled and fell,

Chris (25:47.211)
Yeah, absolutely.

Chris (25:52.845)
Absolutely.

Chris (26:00.726)
Yeah.

Chris (26:05.206)
Yeah, I mean they should. That's trust. That's the trust. Yeah. Absolutely.

AJ Adams (26:14.209)
I'm gonna break my motherfucking neck. they stumble, daddy gonna catch them. So, yeah.

Chris (26:16.739)
you

Yeah, yeah. mean, think that's trust, right? Because I think about how they should be as they become adults, right? They should be able to handle most of their business, right? But if they're ever in need, where they can't handle on their own, it's always that. As long as I'm alive, you know what mean? I don't care how old they are, if I'm alive and I'm capable, then I'm gonna be there. And I think that's okay.

AJ Adams (26:40.01)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (26:47.486)
Yeah.

All right, man, well, I appreciate it.

Chris (26:54.124)
Yeah!

AJ Adams (26:55.55)
We're gonna do this again sometime. I got another topic I want to talk to you about.

Chris (26:57.695)
Let's go. Let's do it. I'm down for it.

AJ Adams (27:02.093)
All right, stop.