From Middle School to College: How Dads Handle the Transition

This week on the Just My Baby Daddy Podcast, we dive deep into the emotional side of fatherhood. From watching our kids grow from middle school to high school, to preparing them for college, scholarships, and future careers — the journey isn’t easy.

We open up about the fears and pressures dads face, how social media shapes our kids’ lives, and why being active in their education is more important than ever. Most of all, we stress the power of open conversations — both with our children and in our relationships.

🎧 Tune in for real stories, real emotions, and the lessons we’re learning as fathers who refuse to sit on the sidelines.

00:00 Introduction to the Journey of Fatherhood
05:10 Navigating High School: New Challenges for Dads
10:35 Facing Fears: Protecting Our Daughters
16:07 Lessons Learned: Parenting Through Different Stages
21:57 Final Thoughts: Preparing for the Future
26:44 Navigating Social Life as Parents
34:57 Coaching Daughters on Relationships
39:28 The Impact of Social Media on Parenting
45:42 Future Concerns and Family Dynamics
48:57 riverside_audio_outro_reaction_videos.mp3

Transcript

AJ Adams (00:10)
Welcome to another episode of Just My Baby Daddy podcast. It's your favorite baby daddy, AJ. And today we got a special episode. It's coming out a day late because school started today. And today we got a special episode. We got three girl dads on here today. My daughter just started middle school. We got Kenny back again, whose daughter just started high school. And we got Cobb back on the show, who last time we had him on the show, he was talking about his daughter.

Maybe she's going to Howard. Maybe she's going to Georgetown. But now he just started his daughter. First day of school was today at Georgia State. Thank you all for being on the show, man.

B. Cobb (00:51)
Appreciate it brother. Thanks for having me

Kenny Holt (00:52)
it's a pleasure. Thanks for

having us.

AJ Adams (00:55)
So first, I'm gonna start with Cobb, because we already know, you already experienced what it's like to have your daughter go through middle school, what it's like to go through high school. How do you feel when you drop your daughter off at college?

B. Cobb (01:07)
Yeah, man, it was a lot of anxiety built up to the first day, like dropping her off. I think one of the biggest things was watching her pack her stuff and breaking her room down and just going through that adjustment, you know, and understanding that she's about to make that transition. So we, you know, pack up, get down there to Georgia State, and that's when it started to become real. That's when the feelings start to hit you that, you know, she about to leave.

So we spent the entire day together building stuff, moving stuff up in her dorm room. We went out to lunch and that was cool. mean, everything was cool. And it didn't hit me until we got back to the house. And that's when it was like, know, tears start flowing. You know, my baby girl ain't here. You know what saying? And it really, it really bothered me for a few days.

It was was one of the I call it a life-changing event for me and my daughter ain't but 30 minutes down the road You know saying it's like she not in my house under my protection and under my supervision You know not that I'm worried about her Experience and things but it's just she ain't here You know and I was messed up for the first time in my life. I said out loud with my mouth I need some counseling man. I need some therapy

AJ Adams (02:06)
Okay, yeah.

B. Cobb (02:29)
Like it was a tough few days and I think I'm out of it now. was able to, I think she recognized it too. So that's why the relationship is so important because she called me and she said, hey dad, I kind of feel like you not okay. You know what I'm saying? Like you all right. You all right. And she said, I can come back home this weekend if you want me to. And I was like, nah, I'm cool. I'm good. You know, I'm just.

I'm just missing you and I know you miss being home and we got to go through this transition because we got to get used to it because you got to handle your business. so for her to reach out to me like that made me further validate that we did the right thing with her. She's a compassionate person. She's a thinker. She's looking outside the box. And I feel confident that someday she'll take care of me just like I took care of her.

So it was a good and necessary transition. I'll say that.

AJ Adams (03:22)
So look, going back to our original conversation when you was talking about Howard and Georgetown, you live in Atlanta. She goes to Georgia State and you feel that way now. How do you think you would have handled if she really went away to school? Like went away, went away.

B. Cobb (03:29)
Yeah.

Yeah, messed up, man. Messed up. I don't think that you realize it when you're going on these college tours and

Kenny Holt (03:44)
you

B. Cobb (03:45)
things like that. And granted, man, everybody's relationship is different. But I know for me and my daughter, we like two peas in a pod. And so when it start getting real and start getting closer to the date, I mean, I would have definitely moved her up there, but I would have been sick, man. I would have been sick.

I would have missed her that much. Eventually I would have got over it. I think when you're in 11th grade and you're trying to build up to that 12th grade and you're going to visit all these colleges and they're showing you all the things that they got to offer, I think that that's one thing. I think actually getting down to that two weeks before, that week before, to the night before, you got to take this road trip and pack all your stuff up, spending money for the transition.

Kenny Holt (04:23)
Okay.

B. Cobb (04:31)
All that stuff started to sink in and add up, man. And it's a little different.

Kenny Holt (04:36)
Yo Kyle, I had a question for you. you said you got emotional, teared up. Can you talk about, is it because it's your daughter, like your baby girl? Cause you got two sons too. Do you think, you know, just go through that.

B. Cobb (04:48)
Yeah. Yeah.

totally different. I think of dropping my sons off, it's almost like I can slow the car down and y'all can jump out. But my daughter, and I love my sons, but my daughter, it was just, she's my first born. It's the first experience that me and my wife had. Let me just walk you through the emotional side, right? So I wasn't boohoo crying, but it hurt, it hurt, bro. Like it hurt to my core. We got home.

AJ Adams (04:55)
you

Yeah

B. Cobb (05:20)
My wife and I sat for a minute and then we kind of separated because I just felt like we just needed our own moment. And then after we had our moment, I went in the garage and we got a record room my wife built where she goes in there and listens to her records. And she was just in there listening to records and she had her moment. And then we came together afterwards. And this is something that I shared with her that I shared with y'all. I said,

Kenny Holt (05:26)
Mm.

you

Yeah.

B. Cobb (05:49)
Oddly one of the first things that came to my mind was man, I can't lose no child I'd be messed up. I Mean you I can't imagine what people go through when they when they lose a child if this affected me like it did and I'm preparing, you know all the all the all the bros joking me about man, you're gonna be crying you gonna be teary-eyed and then when it when it finally happened

AJ Adams (05:55)
Mmm.

Kenny Holt (05:55)
Hmm.

All right.

B. Cobb (06:14)
You can't really control your emotions when it come to somebody that's so special to you like that. And so I had my own moment to myself. And then me and my wife shared the emotional moment where I felt like it was a perfect opportunity to thank her for instilling that thing that only a woman can do. You know what saying? Like we do our part, right? But my wife was on her.

Kenny Holt (06:19)
All right.

B. Cobb (06:41)
from scholarships to her workload and directing that. Not just allowing you to exist, but really leading from the front and coaching her up to her involvement with her friends. Thanking her for being there, for having those conversations with my daughter when things got a little rocky or you don't know which way things go. She played basketball.

I don't know if there was an episode where a girl hit on her or something like that. don't know. But my wife was there to coach her through that or, and just walk her through friendships and relationships and how to show up, how to be presentable. know, one of the things for me when my daughter was born was like, I always want my children presentable. You know what saying? I don't ever want you, you're not with a hair out of place or wrinkled dingy clothes, anything like that.

Kenny Holt (07:22)
Go ahead.

AJ Adams (07:28)
Yeah.

B. Cobb (07:34)
I just want them presentable so they can present as best as possible. And so I really had to take that moment to thank her for that because you don't know how valuable that is when you're working together to try to mold this human being, man. And it was just a beautiful moment that we shared. She's responsible for a lot of the effort that was the initiative to push for the scholarships.

Kenny Holt (07:56)
you

B. Cobb (07:58)
which we can talk about that at any time, but she has so much scholarship that Georgia State is cutting her checks back every semester. And that's just one of the reasons why she went with Georgia State. Now she could have went to some other colleges for sure, but when you talk about the best decision, the smartest decision, I got student loans, right? So I don't know what it feels like to go to school and not work a job.

Kenny Holt (08:06)
Phew.

B. Cobb (08:25)
to help pay for school and trying to make tuition and trying to buy books to this situation where she's set up. And that's her effort for sure, but it's also under the teaching and direction of my wife.

AJ Adams (08:26)
Man.

Okay.

Kenny Holt (08:41)
Yep. Yep. And see, this show is about, you know, baby dads, you know, we'll give it up to the wifey on that.

AJ Adams (08:42)
Yeah.

B. Cobb (08:48)
Yeah, for sure. sure. At least it did it today.

AJ Adams (08:50)
Yeah, of course, of

course. She definitely didn't get it from her dad. What are you talking about?

B. Cobb (08:55)
Hahaha.

AJ Adams (08:55)
That one is blatantly obvious.

B. Cobb (08:57)
Hahaha

Kenny Holt (08:58)
You

B. Cobb (08:58)
Yeah, man.

AJ Adams (08:59)
And like,

and so now you would know what Kenny experienced, what Kenny's going through right now where your daughter just hit high school. So how was that? Because now, you know, it's really starting to get to that point where you know four years from now is gonna go by just like that and you're be sitting in cops shoes. So how was yours feeling the first day?

Kenny Holt (09:17)
Yeah.

Yeah, so I was emotional too, but for a little different reason. My reason is because middle school, they go to school around like 8, 39 o'clock. High school, Kendi had to be at her bus stop at what, six o'clock? And just me having to get up that early, because school starts at like seven. Yo, that had me crying. yeah, in all seriousness.

B. Cobb (09:38)
Mm.

AJ Adams (09:42)
you

Kenny Holt (09:50)
We went to the open house last week and just walking through the halls, trying to find her classes, trying to meet her teachers. That's when it really hit me like, yo, it's a different world. Like how big some of the boys were, like how tall. And Kenny, she's only like five, four. I'm like, my baby is in here with grown men. Like that shit scared me for real. Like, cause I can't be there to protect her. You know what mean?

B. Cobb (10:11)
Yeah.

Kenny Holt (10:17)
So I feel like this is when she's going to get her independence. She's going to have to start figuring a lot of stuff out on her own. So that made me emotional just thinking about how it's real. Like playtime is over. This is where she's going to have to start thinking about her future, know, college, or if she wants to go into business after these next four years. So yeah, dude, I'm still a nervous wreck.

We'll see how this thing goes and you know, maybe we can get some pointers from Kyle because he's been through it and you know his daughter clearly she did the right things and they instilled the right values and things of that nature in his daughter, but I'm just hoping and praying just God covers my baby because man It is scary for me

B. Cobb (11:01)
If I can just offer something, man, one of the things that we did was just be involved. Because what happened is, once you're involved and the teachers know you and the counselors know you, and I think that the dad position is so important because all the moms show up. But when the dad show up too, it's just an extra level of care that they have for the child as well.

Kenny Holt (11:17)
Mm-hmm.

B. Cobb (11:29)
There's so many Greek people there as well. People that, you know, maybe from where you from, but in order to find that out, you gotta be involved, man. You gotta go to the volunteer things, trips, know, clubs. We've donated countless things to different sports organizations that the kids were involved in. And again, it's just that oversight. And I think that that's why, that's why

That's why the kids have good success is because of that oversight. Like I never had my dad on me for school. I think I would have turned out I had a lot better output if I had him on me in high school. We were talking before we went live just about how these four years dictate really your whole life. know, how well you do in high school. I see AJ, here you go. I see AJ. I feel like

AJ Adams (12:01)
Okay.

Kenny Holt (12:09)
there.

B. Cobb (12:21)
These four years are very important because if you do well in high school, you could earn that college scholarship, which will take that financial burden off you, which will give you a little bit of a leg up later on. I'm not saying before your audience thrash me that you can't be successful without high school and coming out of high school. But if your plan is to go to college and you can earn a scholarship, it just helps you out.

Kenny Holt (12:34)
Right.

B. Cobb (12:49)
Down the road.

AJ Adams (12:50)
So what's funny is what you talked about the oversight and being present. think that's why for me, my daughter's first day was hard. It was much harder than I anticipated. For one, it wasn't even the first day. It was the open house because

Going to that open house meant a lot because for the longest time, I didn't even know if my kids would be here for middle school. And like, it's emotional because like, while I'm happy that she's here, I'm still in such limbo that I don't know if my instantly my mind goes to, damn, I don't know if my sons gonna be here for middle school. Like, so once I get over that part, it's like,

I understand my importance in making sure that this is going to be a real time, especially for my daughter. Like my daughter is the type, like she even asked me, so there's no more recess? Like, what are you talking about? Like, she's one of like, she's one of them type of kids. And it's a blessing to me because my child is a real, like she's been a real kid. Like, so now.

Kenny Holt (13:53)
Mm hmm.

AJ Adams (14:05)
This is going to be the first time we're like, Hey, you got a key to the house.

Like stuff like that that she hasn't had up until this point. And it's like, yo, this, this kid stuff that you get away with, this shit has to stop. And for her, I think that's going to be kind of a hard transition. And she thinks so she even, she doubts herself. I, you know,

I talk her through it, you cause she's nervous about middle school and just literally getting to the fact of like, man, I didn't even know if we could get here with my daughter is what really, really messed me up. Cause it's, it's, it, took a lot. It takes a lot just to get, to establish a relationship with my daughter enough that, Hey, if something were to happen,

Kenny Holt (14:40)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (14:55)
I know we can still have it, right? But being as though that I can really physically be here when I didn't know that was gonna be possible, like it just sent me all kinds of ways. And then, yeah, well, yeah, but I'm doing my part to control it, right? Like all I can do is my fight.

B. Cobb (15:06)
You gotta control what you can control, bro.

Kenny Holt (15:09)
True.

AJ Adams (15:16)
But I can say when I went there and we did the open house, it made me feel really good when, you know, parenting is not a competition when you're co-parenting, right? It's not a fight. It's not about who does better, things like that. But it definitely does feel good when your kid points you out as the one they want to do something with. Like my daughter was learning how to use a locker. She said, no, I want my dad to do it.

And her mom said something like, well, thankfully I'm secure in my parenthood that I ain't going to feel no way about it. I will lie. Both of those comments made me feel good. Both of them made me feel fucking amazing. It's like, yeah, like, yeah, this is why I'm here. This is why I'm supposed to be here. So like her starting middle school when for so long, don't know, it's like year after year.

day just so unstable and not knowing, it threw me off. It definitely threw me off.

B. Cobb (16:16)
Well, I'll

give you this, man. You can be in the same household with a woman, the mom, spouse or significant other, whatever, and still have those same challenges. You can be at odds for a minute before things come together. I will cite this. My wife and I, sometimes we can be like oil and water. I mean, we don't agree on everything all the time.

But one thing that we try to intentionally do is when that happens, when my kids say, I want to be with dad, because they know dad not sharp or up to date on all the goings on at the school, I always redirect and include mom and make sure she's aware of what's going on so we can be at least on the same page with some things. And I think that even when we're not at our best.

You know, because we're human, so we don't always see things eye to eye. I don't even believe like a lot of school. I mean, you go to school all the time, man. It's almost like work from home. I don't want to to the office every day. You you need to go to school every day. three times a week, man. Straight, you know, what you need to get a B anyway. ⁓

AJ Adams (17:33)
Yeah

Kenny Holt (17:35)
You guys are better than me. Because for me, it's always a competition. So if I change a diaper, I want to be a better diaper changer. I want to put the lotion on better. I want to drive better. I want to commute you better. So, but.

B. Cobb (17:37)
haha

He crazy. Yeah. ⁓

Kenny Holt (17:54)
So I salute

you guys. It's always a competition with me.

B. Cobb (17:56)
in it.

AJ Adams (17:58)
I can't be in competition because I go crazy.

B. Cobb (18:01)
That's what I'm saying, man.

You crazy.

AJ Adams (18:04)
Plus I can't see the other side. You know what mean? I don't even know what I'm competing against.

Kenny Holt (18:07)
Yeah.

You

B. Cobb (18:10)
none of us

ever been no 16 year old woman or no 16 year old girl, 15 year old girl. You gotta yield, you know what I'm saying? It's no way, even if we did our best to speak on that regard, you know, the best thing to do is build that alliance and try to have some type of camaraderie when it come to raising them kids. Now I am, I do want to take that pride on with my son.

Kenny Holt (18:13)
Right.

AJ Adams (18:17)
Yeah.

Kenny Holt (18:30)
This is that.

AJ Adams (18:32)
That's a fact.

B. Cobb (18:36)
Now here's where the competition come in a little bit. She got my daughter, she's like straight. And so I'm like, my boy's gotta be straight. So I'm now stepping up to the plate, being more involved, leading more things, trying to get them into some scholarship programs and getting them to do the right things early. Because she set the blueprint. So now it's just following. On top of that, making sure they understand.

Kenny Holt (19:02)
Right.

B. Cobb (19:05)
what my expectation of them as young men too. So I do think there's a difference between the genders. So since we talking about the girls, know, my involvement goes up to kind of here and then I hit a ceiling and then I involve

Kenny Holt (19:19)
Right.

B. Cobb (19:21)
my wife on a lot of things. Yeah, so my bad.

AJ Adams (19:24)
Yeah, because it's weird. Jet goes to middle school next year. I don't mean to say it like this, but like, I don't care. Like, boy, he gets to middle school, figure it out. My baby girl goes there. It's like, man, my baby's growing up. It's like him, it's about time. Her, oh my God, slow down.

B. Cobb (19:29)
Dang it, dude.

Yes.

Kenny Holt (19:34)
You

Dang.

B. Cobb (19:40)
Yeah

AJ Adams (19:52)
You know, it's different. It's different there.

B. Cobb (19:55)
But I think it's different too because it's almost like rites of passage. It's like your son is going to be a provider for a family one day, you know, or somebody one day or he may have his own children and he's going to have to provide and we can't give them every answer or they'll be no good. You know what saying? We got to allow them some space to hit their head, to fail, to figure it out, to use some critical thinking. And if we don't then

AJ Adams (20:03)
Yeah?

B. Cobb (20:22)
You know, it's like we're setting him up for failure. Case in point, my son is playing football, my youngest son, nine. And I noticed that I was so excited when he started playing again that I'm helping him get him getting dressed, like his shoulder pads and his cleats and all that stuff. I got him, he decked out, he got the visor, the whole nine yards, right? And then I realized one day when he was like, we came home and he said,

Hey dad, I'm out in the garage because he takes the stuff off in the garage. And I said, I said, okay, well come on in the house. He said, well, you want to come and take my shoulder pads off? And I was like, I'm like, bro, you're not NFL, but like you, you, you figure out how to take your own pads. You can't play sport without taking your pads off. And then I said, man, I got to apologize to you because I've been helping them with it every, every day. So I didn't allow him to grow in that moment.

So I think it is important and gender does matter. Like I treat my daughter differently than I treat my sons.

Kenny Holt (21:25)
So.

AJ Adams (21:25)
We all do. I mean, we just that we open up to say it. We all, we all do. We all do. Right. So Kenny, what is your, do you have any fears that's coming up in this next, these next four years?

Kenny Holt (21:40)
So, of course you know my dynamic. Kennedy has a bonus mom, the niece my wife, and then she has Tiffany too, who we went to school I think everybody's doing a good job in pouring into Kennedy. So don't think we worry about her. I don't have any fears with her behaviorally.

AJ Adams (21:56)
I'm just really nervous about my daughter facing that real reality that not everyone's her friend, not everyone's a fan of her being so overly energetic all the time, always in people's faces and like that ain't.

B. Cobb (22:09)
Mm-hmm.

AJ Adams (22:12)
Cause she did say that the first day, somebody asked her like, how are you so energetic this way all the time, all day? And she says, I don't know. I'm just like this. And I just continues on with the conversation. I'm like, yeah, yeah, that sounds like you. That sounds just like you. And that, that, that, I don't want to, how do you say it? Like, I don't want to ruin that innocence for her, but I know it's going to be.

And I'm just there to figure out, okay, once that happens, how am I gonna help her navigate through that part? Because it's going to happen. It's going to happen.

B. Cobb (22:50)
Yeah,

I will say my fears are more probably global, man. I got fears of like sex trafficking and all type of stuff like that. Weird stuff, man. I because I think I feel like Bre can handle herself, you know, and but it's just the world that I'm worried about. It's like she wants to travel and she wants to go to these places and stuff like that. And I'm doing the research and I'm like, Bre.

AJ Adams (23:15)
Yo

Cop, you know better. You know better. anything you want to find on the internet, you're going to find on the If you want to prove a point about something on the internet, look, I live in a very safe neighborhood. I bet you if I went on the internet right now, I probably could find something that happened in probably 2008. Somebody got stabbed or something. They'd be like, see, it's violence. Like you can find whatever you want to on the internet. It's going to always be something, man. Always.

B. Cobb (23:23)
it is-

look up your sex register,

the registry in your area.

Yeah, man, hey you find out some interesting stuff man and do within a five mile radius and see see all the You know, you got to know that man like it's it's It's a part of the part of the role for me But that yeah those type of fears man and then um Her being green, you know saying like there's a certain green Yeah, there's a certain greenness about her that when she started driving I followed her right?

AJ Adams (23:57)
Yeah.

That's I'm talking about.

B. Cobb (24:17)
I followed her because she was going to the gas station and and so I'm. No, not not exactly, no, she didn't know. No, so I just wanted to see how she how she drives. This was one of her first times out by herself and I wanted to see how she drove and see how she conducted herself at the gas station. So I'm telling her, look, before you get out of the car, just take a little quick peek around. You know what she did? She get out of the car. She got the earbuds in.

AJ Adams (24:22)
Does she know you was following her?

B. Cobb (24:48)
And she just like in a bubble, you know what saying? And so I call her and she said, yeah, hey, dad. I said, Bree, I'm over here in the parking lot. Do you see me? Yeah. How did you not see me following you? How you not see that? You're not paying attention. So yeah, it's just that thing being down in a city in a new environment where the element of danger is a little bit higher.

AJ Adams (25:04)
You

you

B. Cobb (25:12)
And so I just try to keep dripping on her just hey, hey dad. How you doing going out hanging out? Okay, well breathe look around man notice you know, you know you're buying you got your mace, you know, just Help me out man, you know, I'm terrified out here

AJ Adams (25:25)
you

Yeah, you're doing that for you.

B. Cobb (25:28)
Yeah,

man, I'm terrified because I don't know how I would react if somebody hurt her or somebody do something wrong to her. You know what saying? It's that serious. And so I feel like there's a lot of preventative measures that could prevent a lot of things from happening. Of course. Yeah. Could you have random crime and could things happen to anybody? Sure. But sometimes, man, I think people put themselves in position. You really jogging? know, ⁓

Kenny Holt (25:53)
Okay.

B. Cobb (25:54)
You're really jogging at 4 o'clock in the morning? Really?

Yeah! Somebody beat you up? Yeah!

AJ Adams (25:59)
That's why

you're going to Subway at four o'clock in the morning. That's why them Africans beat you up. Yeah.

B. Cobb (26:03)
Yeah, talk about your rights

Look matter of fact, get pulled over in car and you trying tell the people about your rights? Yeah, they put their hands on you

Kenny Holt (26:07)
Yeah

Yeah

B. Cobb (26:15)
You cannot do that out here. So that's just some of my fears, man. It's just making sure that she's aware of her surroundings and put herself in safe environments. Like I used to carry a weapon a lot, like all the time. And I don't carry it as much now because I don't put myself in the environment that I would need it most of the time. Of course, you can't predict where the crime is going to come or how it's going to come.

But nine times out of 10, I'm not at places that dictate that. You know what saying? I'm going to concert, last concert I went to, Stevie Wonder. Ain't nobody trying to rob me at the Stevie Wonder concert. You know what I'm saying? I just don't, I don't have an appetite no more. And that's why you gotta have a, you gotta have a youth. Matter of fact, Heywood was in town, man. I Heywood got together and had some good conversation.

AJ Adams (26:54)
How was that Sam's?

Kenny Holt (27:00)
All

B. Cobb (27:13)
Just about like, you know, he was asking me like how do you go out anymore? standing third. I said, bro I'm a homebody now man. I didn't do it mine. I didn't have my fun. I'd have been to every I can't go to no club I don't go no place. I can't sit down Any place I got standing line. I ain't going that's just I Don't have to you know saying It's all all of it is relevant

AJ Adams (27:35)
I agree. I agree.

Kenny Holt (27:39)
Okay.

B. Cobb (27:41)
You transition, your daughter transition,

your family transitions, and you mature in a thinking. So I think that's why it's going through these rites of passage to high schools, I'm sorry, to middle schools, to high schools, the college or business or trade or entrepreneurship, whatever you're gonna do. And then hopefully they meet somebody that's gonna do right by them and...

And then you have that because by that time you should have the maturity and the confidence in her decision that she has chosen someone that will treat her accordingly.

AJ Adams (28:16)
So to that meet somebody point, right? Now, both of y'all are at stages where one, you have a daughter that's in college, which means she's about to enjoy her college life going out. She's in Atlanta. She's gonna be going out. Kenny, you're at the point where I don't know if your daughter has already been into boys, but that stuff, but it's happening. It is on its way. So like, how are you like,

Kenny Holt (28:34)
Okay.

Yeah.

AJ Adams (28:44)
Do you even follow your daughter on social media? You just gonna just like, I'm not gonna look at it. I'm just gonna cut it off or like, and Kenny, how are you gonna be prepared for like, hey dad, I want you to meet somebody. Like, cause this is coming, for the next four years, this is coming for both of y'all.

B. Cobb (29:00)
Yeah, Kenny, you wanna go first or you want me to it?

AJ Adams (29:02)
Yeah

Kenny Holt (29:03)
Man, I'll go first real quick. Yeah, man, what keeps me up at night concerning that and the whole dating thing, man, studs, yo. Because right now, they have the slickest talk game right now out of everybody. But nah, seriously.

B. Cobb (29:05)
Alright.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's classy.

Kenny Holt (29:22)
And I love

everybody, I'll just fucking around.

AJ Adams (29:25)
Now you right though, cause every stunt I know got something. Yeah, go ahead kitty.

Kenny Holt (29:31)
Yeah. And see,

Kendi's a cheerleader too, so she's around the basketball team. Now I'm stereotyping, but it's a fact that a lot of studs do play sports, basketball and softball and things of that nature. So Kendi's around that scene. And that goes for the guys and the girls. And I feel like I could be biased, but I feel like she's a pretty girl.

B. Cobb (29:40)
Yeah.

Kenny Holt (29:55)
And so that's one of the things that scares the hell out of me for real. Like she's had friends, but now she might start dating. That's a whole different ball game. like up until now, we let her have friends. None of that being physical stuff. Like I took her to carowinds last year. You can walk around with the guy, but that's about it. know, a hug, goodnight at the end of the night. That's it. But so now she's getting older. She's 14. So now maybe

It might entail some kissing or just something like that. Even that, I don't want to see, because I don't know what I'll do to the dude. ⁓ But I accept it. I know it's bound to happen. But the thing is, so we've instilled in her morals and values. hopefully, I think this is where your parenting really shows, right? What they do now. Hopefully she'll have the right mind not to take it too far.

AJ Adams (30:29)
Oh nah, hell nah, I don't wanna see that.

Kenny Holt (30:51)
not to do anything crazy, not to disappoint us. So know Kendi, one thing she doesn't like to disappoint and her feelings get hurt easily. So she knows, just don't be out here doing nothing crazy. But still in the back of my mind, I still know she's a human being and they're gonna make mistakes. So we just gotta kind of see when those mistakes do happen, how we handle those and learn from them.

B. Cobb (31:13)
Yeah, so my daughter had a relationship on the tail in the high school, like maybe right around the second semester of senior year, she had her first official boyfriend and she did it right because she knows me. So because she knows me, she prepared him well to speak to me. Right. She know that he has to come to the table with some things that he literally had.

Just a regular conversation, but he had some points and key indicators to let me know that Bre checked him on how to approach me. His dress and presentation was nice. He was talking about some good things. And of course we all know the hustle talk and this, that and the third, but he kept it really simple. And so he asked me,

Kenny Holt (31:42)
Okay. Okay.

B. Cobb (32:07)
if it was okay if they took their friendship

one step up to be exclusive with each other. And I said, well, if you had the balls to do that, all right, then keep in mind, it's all a hustle because my wife had to know about this dude.

Kenny Holt (32:15)
Wow.

AJ Adams (32:25)
yeah, your wife knew a time ago. She knew a long time

Kenny Holt (32:25)
Okay.

B. Cobb (32:27)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

AJ Adams (32:28)
ago.

B. Cobb (32:29)
So all of them in moves together and so he know he can't respect and respectful. So now I'm getting toward the conversation to my daughter about what my expectations of her. I feel like if they don't hear it, then it don't exist. All right. So I told her, said, Bri, you guys could continue friends, right? You step into this girlfriend role, there may be certain expectations that he have of you that you may not want to do.

You know what I'm saying? And it could be everything from communication to sex. So you guys need to be on the same page before it becomes a problem. All right? Because I'm not going to understand me walking past your room and seeing you crying. I'm not going to understand it. So now it becomes a problem. you coach and quarterback your relationship like you need to. Or I'm going to have to get involved. And if I get involved in this, then all

you know, all bets off because I'm just going to be upset. So she handled it well when it got to a point where she felt like the the exclusive relationship was too much, you know, just being, you know, with one person and and and you know, he want to talk all the time or whatever it was. She said, this is not for me. So actually giving her the rope.

and allow her to get into a relationship, really deter her from it. Because they got to understand what it is first. You think you going out, you in high school and it's after the game and your boyfriend call you, he go to another school. You hanging out over here, he like, oh, okay, we ain't gonna stay on the phone tonight and talk. Nah, now it's difficult, see?

Kenny Holt (33:58)
you

Yeah.

B. Cobb (34:16)
And then understand, having her understand and talk through this physical thing. Like I said, man, beautiful young girls, all three of us got beautiful young girls and her understanding what she's dealing with. So I'm a young lady going out, people are gonna see me, they're gonna look at me and they may wanna be with me for this only and not really know what your heart about or your mind about.

and And try you off that so you got to be careful about who you engage in conversation with You know you got I told my daughter I said teachers shouldn't have certain conversations with you. I don't like Pet pet nicknames in school. You gotta be careful that shit, too The coach hey, baby, huh? I don't like none of it

Kenny Holt (35:00)
work.

B. Cobb (35:06)
I don't like none of it man. Hey look, hey coach, where your daughter go to school at? Why? Oh, cause I want to go over there and call her baby. Don't call my daughter baby. Don't call her. Keep it, keep it. She got a name for a reason. You know, so you gotta, so when I say man, that oversight is important. It's on the relationships. It's dripping and getting them to have an understanding of some involvement and some accountability, but you gotta coach it.

You gotta coach it. And I'd rather go on record saying, I'd rather be vocal and coach her up to the point where I'm just so comfortable that she got it. I'm fine with you talking about me behind my back saying I'm an asshole. I'm fine. Because that's what it takes. She knows I'm involved. Now I don't have to call her and say, oh, Bree, she'll check in periodically.

Kenny Holt (35:36)
Yeah.

.

B. Cobb (36:03)
you know, and that's just off the relationship that you build.

Kenny Holt (36:08)
So Kyle, you mentioned, you coach her, you coached, and probably still coaching in some aspect, but so all three of us, we were young men at one point in time, college guys, attractive guys, I don't think we had any hard times with the ladies, but so at this point now, and of course we've healed and we've matured, At this point, do you guys...

AJ Adams (36:27)
Yeah

Kenny Holt (36:31)
Cause this is what I struggle with. Do you guys talk to your daughters about how immature guys could be and you know, what young guys are looking for trying to get out the deal or do you let their mothers handle that or is it a combination of both? Cause to be honest, I don't want kindy with the guy that I used to be like, but how do you guys manage that?

AJ Adams (36:51)
Of not. Of course not.

Well, one, I ain't gotta worry about it yet. But I anticipate what's funny is, I don't know, I don't wanna just leave it up to the moms. Because the moms, you know why? And I trust the moms. I trust the moms. But.

My mom's a little big, big, big, boy, nigga like me.

I mean like, you gotta avoid people like your dad used to be, but it's like, but you didn't. Like, I can tell you that. You know what

B. Cobb (37:23)
Right, right, right, right.

Kenny Holt (37:26)
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So that was my question.

Do you tell your daughter, cause it, you you don't want to completely trash yourself. Like, do you tell them, tell them that?

B. Cobb (37:38)
Yeah, so, go ahead, my bad.

AJ Adams (37:38)
Tell them what, man, I think

you're doing, I think, I'm being honest, yo, I think your daughters will pick up and know. Like just based off of who we are, I don't think, I don't think we give off the energy that, well, the one person that ever liked me was your mom. Like, I don't think, I mean, look, yeah, look.

They notice it, right? They notice it with me little stuff where, you know, we might go to their game or we go to their event and then they see all the other parents looking at it. They won't say nothing, but they notice it. They know their dad can get, you know, they know. Now my daughter called me out on it. Yeah, they know.

Kenny Holt (38:12)
Yeah.

B. Cobb (38:14)
Yo, let me...

Let me say this. My daughter went to, then keep in mind two things. All these kids, all of our kids grow up on social media, right? So all of our close circle really know them. Like I don't know your daughter, Kenny, but I seen her grow up on Facebook, ⁓ yeah, internet uncles, there you go. So Brie went to Fayetteville State Homecoming a couple of years ago, right? So she can't get from the car to the plots.

Kenny Holt (38:34)
Yeah. uncles and shit, if you don't know them like this.

AJ Adams (38:34)
Yeah.

B. Cobb (38:45)
because everybody's stopping her, hey, Bree, how you doing? Where your daddy, where you, you know? And so I didn't go to that particular homecoming, Tisha went. So when she get back from the homecoming, she had this whole different mindset. She said, dad, you had to be loose on that campus. I said, you know I'm saying? She said, just the way it move.

Kenny Holt (38:55)
Mmm.

Ha!

B. Cobb (39:12)
know everybody and I seen uncle catfish and uncle mel and uncle this uncle that and everybody know everybody she said you had to be you had to be loose on that campus so I would say to that your question Kenny one thing that they have that we didn't have was social media so I think they see more and know more faster than we ever ever would know so

Kenny Holt (39:31)
Sorry.

B. Cobb (39:38)
I didn't specifically sit her down and say, this is what I done, because I think that's grown folk business. Like if you didn't go to high school with me, you won't got no business knowing what I did. You know what saying? But I think it's important to let her know some challenges that she may face. Right? Not necessarily what you did, but some challenges that she may face in dating and just with men in particular.

Kenny Holt (39:48)
Yeah. Yeah.

B. Cobb (40:07)
I

mean, like you say, it studs.

Kenny Holt (40:07)
Thank

you.

AJ Adams (40:11)
My daughter called me out for having two baby moms. Like, you know what I'm saying?

She know what's going on. She know who her daddy is.

Kenny Holt (40:16)
right.

B. Cobb (40:20)
Man, how

was that? I mean, how was that?

AJ Adams (40:26)
But she said it. Man, I just, I didn't have a response. Cause I literally, was like, I was just getting dressed and it like, you know, your daddy looks good. She's like, oh, is that why you have three kids or two months? And I'm like, hey, I just said, get out of here. That's all I said. I didn't respond to say, get the fuck, like, wait, I wanted to say, get the fuck out my face. But I was like, just go. Like, just get out of here. Like that's just.

B. Cobb (40:26)
Yeah.

Kenny Holt (40:44)
Yeah.

B. Cobb (40:52)
Kids tell you about yourself man, tell you about

AJ Adams (40:55)
Oh, well, no, did. Speaking of that point, I did kind of piss my son off. So my son has a crush on his teacher. He's in fifth grade now. He keeps talking about his second grade teacher, right? He was saying something to me. We was playing a game or something, talking trash to me. And after I said the thing to his sister, and that's why she said something about something don't match. I was like, well.

Kenny Holt (40:56)
Bye.

B. Cobb (41:11)
Okay?

AJ Adams (41:25)
That's why your teacher had a crush on me. Killed him. I mean, killed his heart, turned his soul for it. my God.

B. Cobb (41:32)
You teach us a little different than when I was

a little different

AJ Adams (41:36)
Amen,

yeah. And we know what teachers are like when when the sun was out. Well, well, I've heard.

B. Cobb (41:41)
Yeah.

They got all these social media pages, man. It's bad, boy.

Kenny Holt (41:48)
Crazy.

AJ Adams (41:48)
Mm-hmm.

B. Cobb (41:49)
So what's next? So that's another thing that I really didn't have a lot of forecasting when it came to the kids. So my wife, as soon as we dropped her off, she said, now I'm starting to working on scholarships for medical school. I'm looking into scholarships. I'm looking into pushing Bre to get summer labs.

Like she need to get this, I think she's getting the med tech certification and the CNA certification this summer and setting up her internships and all of this stuff, man. But that's how it has to be done in order to get ahead of the curve. There's so many scholarships out here that people don't even apply for and every dollar count, every dollar count.

AJ Adams (42:38)
Every dollar definitely counts.

Kenny Holt (42:41)
Did she make the decision to go to college versus starting a career or being an entrepreneur? How did y'all work navigate through that?

B. Cobb (42:52)
So yeah, think because, sure. ⁓

AJ Adams (42:54)
Hold on, Cobb, before you answer,

tell, I don't think you might not know, you ain't have the whole, what does your wife do, Cobb?

B. Cobb (43:04)
Tisha, she's a superintendent for Montessori schools.

Kenny Holt (43:08)
okay.

B. Cobb (43:09)
Yeah, so she like, I think 20 schools or something like that. Maybe 18 something. But she over a lot of schools for Montessori school. And she's a Georgia trainer for Montessori teachers too. So they have to go through a Montessori trainer. And it's a handful of people that can certify you. she's one of

AJ Adams (43:09)
So.

Kenny Holt (43:14)
that's nice. Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah,

they got totally different curriculum. So yeah, that's what's up.

B. Cobb (43:33)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (43:34)
So education has been a thing for her. this is not a, this ain't something that's new. This is, yeah, like this ain't something that's new. Like they just now getting into it. Like, nah, that, that she was going to college. Like that wasn't like. ⁓

Kenny Holt (43:36)
I'll be right back.

B. Cobb (43:39)
Oh yeah, yeah, I thought it was-

Yeah.

Yeah. So funny, man. My Uncle Kenny, man,

Kenny Holt (43:48)
Yeah

B. Cobb (43:51)
still to this day, because him and my wife got the same birthday. he'll say, what is she doing? I tell him. He say, what the fuck she want with you?

AJ Adams (43:59)
Yeah

B. Cobb (44:00)
said, man, I'm a professional too. ⁓

Kenny Holt (44:02)
All right.

AJ Adams (44:03)
Bullshit!

B. Cobb (44:05)
you

Kenny Holt (44:06)
very

B. Cobb (44:06)
Yeah, man, but um, I forgot where we was at in the conversation because I'm

AJ Adams (44:13)
I know, I know. Well in three years I'll be, well you are Kenny, and what's funny is in three years I'll also be starting one in kindergarten. I'll have one starting kindergarten and high school at the same time.

Kenny Holt (44:26)
Yeah.

B. Cobb (44:30)
And if you work real hard, you retired in 97. Yeah, man. I'll share this too, man. We were talking about like, because we got a couple of couples that we know that's empty nesters now. They dropped their last son or daughter off at college this year. we got the young one pulling up the rear. He's in his last year of elementary. And I'm like, man.

AJ Adams (44:33)
Shut up.

Kenny Holt (44:34)
Ha ha ha ha ha!

AJ Adams (44:38)
UGH!

B. Cobb (44:56)
Bro, I want to retire so bad. But I'm thinking that by time he graduated from high school, somebody got to be moving back into the house. Because who can afford a house? People can't afford a house right now. Can you imagine how much the house is to be in five years? What's the responsibility of the parents to put the kids in a better position? It's just a lot to think about, man. So that's where some of my anxiety comes from, too. It's like, OK, are there really going to be any jobs?

Kenny Holt (45:09)
Right.

B. Cobb (45:25)
I told my kids look man if you're going to college for something major just go get go get a HVAC plumbing something like that man and build your career off that because I Don't want you to go to school for something that don't yield you no no no money and I don't even know if things are guaranteed no more man. There's so many doctors and Hospitals I'm in a

Kenny Holt (45:45)
Right. .

B. Cobb (45:52)
in the healthcare staffing industry. it used to be where the travel nurses were sought after. So they were getting all this money. And so all these colleges were implementing these nursing programs and funneling nurses through and they were coming out getting jobs. But now that's slowing down and the hospitals getting back to,

okay, we don't need no travel nurse. We hiring nurses full time and we're good.

Because this $200 bill rate, $300 bill rate that you guys are offering me, I don't want to pay that no more. So it's just a scary thing. And to piggyback on my fears, one of my fears is that

Kenny Holt (46:21)
Mm.

B. Cobb (46:33)
the kids will try. Like they go out and they get their first apartment, right? Or their first house. And can they really afford it? Or should I just build and

Build and build and give me a compound put everybody a house on the comp. I don't know man. I'm just I'm just exhausted

Kenny Holt (46:50)
Yeah.

AJ Adams (46:52)
Build

a comp, build a compound and if they don't move it, you still got it.

B. Cobb (46:57)
Either way.

AJ Adams (46:59)
Fuck.

The fuck, yeah.

Kenny Holt (47:00)
Man, that'd be

a good conversation maybe another time. you know, a lot of cultures, they allow their kids to come Not so much us, but so it's just, you know, I would welcome mine back.

B. Cobb (47:09)
Oof.

Kenny Holt (47:13)
All right.

B. Cobb (47:13)
⁓ God.

This guy is brutal.

Yeah, my my my grandfather didn't make it comfortable for me to come back He was like you need to get out on your own cuz that's what he did and so when you start to get older like Kenny said man like you know, I think you're supposed to welcome your children back and

AJ Adams (47:30)
I

want land. want a space like that. I wouldn't mind putting a space where I can have all my, everybody. Everybody. You know, it don't gotta be elaborate. It ain't gotta be huge, but if I got a lot of land, I can do that. I would love to do that. Even if it's just a vacation spot. Huh?

Kenny Holt (47:39)
Yeah. Ta-da!

B. Cobb (47:49)
King's mom's too?

AJ Adams (47:52)
Kids moms do what?

B. Cobb (47:54)
And, and the rain!

AJ Adams (47:55)
I

B. Cobb (47:58)
I had to get you back cuz you got kitty

AJ Adams (47:59)
Hey

man, that could be that. I mean look, I'm having brain fighting and everything now.

Kenny Holt (48:02)
Ruff.

B. Cobb (48:05)
man.

AJ Adams (48:06)
But yeah, man, it's a rough transition. We all went through dropping off those girls and all handling it though. It's rough. It's rough. We don't talk about it. We just laugh it off on Facebook or maybe these little pictures. But inside, it's always a lot that you're thinking about you're going through when these transitions happen. It's a lot.

B. Cobb (48:29)
Submit your

Kenny Holt (48:29)
We gotta do

B. Cobb (48:29)
subat-

Kenny Holt (48:31)
a reunion a year from today and see how things turn out.

AJ Adams (48:36)
Shit, year from today I have a... Nevermind, I can't say that part on here. yeah, year from today, my son will be graduated on his way to middle school. We'll see how that goes. All right, man, we appreciate y'all coming on. We'll get you back on here, definitely. We'll get a follow up. All right, let me...

Kenny Holt (48:44)
Nice. Yeah.

B. Cobb (48:50)
Alright, show me.

Kenny Holt (48:51)
Always a pleasure, man. They're fun.

B. Cobb (48:55)
Alright, bruh.

Kenny Holt (48:56)
I be