Survivor Series WAR GAMES 24 pre show

Blood and rivalries are boiling over here at WAR GAMES! Team Rhea Ripley takes on Team Liv Morgan each woman having a reason to hate one another. The Bloodline Civil War continues in the WAR GAMES structure, will we see the Final Boss make his presence known tonight? Intercontinental championship on the line in a triple threat match with some of the best to ever step between the ring ropes. Can Damian Priest become Heavyweight champion yet again!? Will Shinsuke be able to become US Champion tonight by defeating LA Knight?   

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Wrestling has more than one royal family. Acknowledge me! And we want to stop! What is up, guys? Welcome back to Wrestling Crossroads. As always, I am one happy, dynamic duo twisted alongside Brother Pyro! Hi! I'm so sorry that I couldn't be here for the last one, but Brother Pyro did an amazing job on his own for it. I mean, I did alright, I guess, but it was weird not having someone to banter with. Oh, I know. Because I was about to start bantering with myself and then that would have just been weird. Yeah, I think so. But, like, not having somebody to, like, bounce off of. Really just, it felt unnatural. Please never leave me again. I will do my best not to. Definitely will do my best not to. If we need to make it audible, let me know and I will make a call. I know, I know. But that was weird. Okay, so today we are talking Survivor Series War Games. Are you excited for this? It is only my favorite of four holidays. Yes, yes. You're one of four. Yeah. And unfortunately, normally we have somebody with us on our big four. Um, but unfortunately we were unable to, like, we didn't really think ahead to get others. We, we, we had a lot going on. Yeah, we did not think ahead to get others into this, and then Flash is actually dealing with Baby Crossroads right now, so. Cause he's, uh, not necessarily. He'd be in a little temperament. Yeah, he's a little temperamental right now. All right, so getting us started we have the women's war game match Which me and brother pyro both think will kick off the show tonight. I mean Pacing wise it makes sense open with the war games close. We're war. Yeah, personally Personal opinion. Yeah, I know but we also thought that crown jewel was going to be the same way and they did it back to back Essentially, which was really dumb. Yeah But anyway, so anyways, we have team live, which is live morgan. Raquel vargas Nia Jax, Tiffany Stratton, and Candice LeRae taking on Team Rhea, which consists of Rhea Ripley, Naomi, Bianca Belair, EO Sky, and Baylee. So, initially thought of to be, er, initial team wasn't Baylee, it was supposed to be Jade Cargill. Um, Bianca being the most hesitant one to include Baylee, especially cause she was already hesitant with EO. Mm hmm. Um, But going back into it, but getting to this point, we still don't know who it was. A few weeks ago, Dave Cartwheel was attacked. Bailey proved that she could be at least trusted for the, for this little bit by helping Bianca pick up the win on Monday for advantage going into the war games match. So they, I guess they finally agreed. Hey, Yeah, Bailey can. Bailey could be part of the team, but I also don't think R gave her much of a choice. No, I don't think so either. Also, how the hell do you have the two women's world champions on one team and that's the team that looks the least credible and the most underdoggy? I agree. How does the team with both women's champions look the weakest? So essentially we got here more or less because of the feud between Liv and Rhea continuing. We obviously build it. You know, Naya has now had her issues with Um, The women on Team Rhea. So, we kind of got here via that. It's just, it's got it's own little puzzle pieces. Everybody at this point had an issue with somebody else. Mm hmm. And at this point they were like, Alright, mushroom together. I'm very curious to see how well EO and Bailey work in this. As teammates because oh, well, okay. So last night on smackdown, I know you didn't get to watch I did No kicking off the show was actually team real they came out and you know, everybody had something to say Ria talking about how lives she's gonna make live what she never met her uh, bianca saying she knows one of them attacked jade and She coming for that receipt. She coming for that ad man Uh Outcome, you know, Team Liv, Naya, whatever you wanna No, Team Liv is just the easiest one. Ah, they come out, and you know, they talk. They're talking their smack all, you know, with an attacker. But also, you know, we're not really worried about y'all. Um, it's fun, you know. Bailey calls out Naya for taking out Or for, for being manipulative of Tiffany. Then, you know, Team Babyface talking to the heel team about how none of them can really trust each other. And, Naya pointed out, Pointed out something really, uh, How is Bianca gonna trust you or EO when y'all was on damage control and tormented her for like a year and a half, two years? Yeah. How is Bianca gonna trust EO when EO cashed in on her at SummerSlam last year? How is EO going, or how is Bailey gonna trust EO when EO betrayed Bailey post Rumble and going into mania? Yep. Yep. I mean, she's not wrong. Like, she pointed out, like, and you, and you bringing up your fact of, I want to see how well they're going to work as a team. Niall, Niall raised the same concern, the same issue to the rest of us fans watching here at home. I mean, I, I think that they're going to go all in with the mindset of, The enemy of my enemy is my friend. And even then, I don't think Personally, I don't think that's enough. What you also have to remember, one thing, is you have Rhea Ripley, you have Bianca Belair, and you have EO Sky, who were in the initial War Games match on the same team, if I'm not mistaken. I believe so. Down in NXT. And who won that War Games match? It was Team Rhea Ripley. I, I, I still remember, probably one of my favorite war games. Granted, we also had Candice LeRae in that match, too. Yes, no, part of my favorite, one of my favorite war games matches, I think it was that one, Dakota Kai betrayed Tegan Knox. They were all supposed to be that one team. Team Rhea wins, I think, four, with a 4 2. Who, and it was literally just her and I think Candice on one team versus EO, Bianca. I don't remember who else was on that team, but like the fact that, you know, these, most of these women have been there in this match and have the experience factor. I wonder, I genuinely wonder how well this is going to work. Cause remember there was also. They were also almost, pretty much, almost the same group with minus a few in last year's women's foot games. Last year it was. Because Bia was involved. Yep. Uh, Bianca was involved. E. O. Bailey. E. O. Bailey. Yep. You had Dakota because you had the original. Yep. Uh, damage control. Damage control. Yeah. Well you look, when I look at it, it, I could be 100 percent wrong. I think this is lives first. I know this is not Raquel's first. You know what? This is, I, this is Naya's first. And I believe this is Tiffany and Naomi's first and that's it. Those are the only newcomers we have going into this match. Yep, and we're gonna, we're gonna look to see. Okay, while you're looking, I'm just gonna go through our predictions. Don't go right ahead, boo. Um, so looking at our predictions, all of us aside from one, and I think we know who the odd man out is, are picking Team Rhea to pick up the win because of obvious reasons. Um, whereas Desario, Team Liv, and his only reasoning being, going Team Liv seems right. And I think it comes with the factor of what you've been saying, you have both women's champions on this team, so why not make that the team that wins, however There is a potential to do something very, very great here. Are you talking about the cash in we were talking about? I am talking about Tiffany Stratton, Miss Money in the Bank, probably pulling off one of the most unique cash ins that we could probably have ever, we will probably have ever seen in the history of Money in the Bank's men or women if they do it. Because think about it, match doesn't officially start until all women are in the ring. Yeah. Are in the ring. Depending on how they come out order wise. Mm-Hmm. Um, you could really have, you know, with Team Bianca having the advantage, the advantage, you have a match before the match of ev. Eventually you have one whatever woman's champion. Probably Naya. Cause, you know, that's the one that she got the most beef with right now. With her talking down on her and what not. Naya's catching a beat down, a beat down, a beat down. The test is officially started. Tiffany's now in. I'm helping, I'm helping. Wait a minute. I now see an opportunity here. Or you, even after the match has officially started, a match within a match. I say you wait till the whole thing's done. I, I, I like the, I like the idea of the match within the match, cause if Naya tries to escape that cage, she may have lost, she, she, she will have lost the match for her team at War Games, but that doesn't get her out of the match with Tiffany, at that point. And I would love that. To see them really roll the dice on that one. I I personally almost happened with priest last year. I would love to see it actually executed here Also, if I don't see the perfect moonsault off the top of that cage Because if tiffy doesn't hit a moonsault off the top of the cage throw the whole damn match away I agree with that one personally. I don't think they're going to roll the dice on it being in the middle of the match Would it be great? Yes, but I don't do them doing it I see them doing it after the match where nia is the most The pop and the word, the crowd would make that moment so worth it. Uh, did you look up the information we needed that you got? I started to and then we, and then I got distracted. Of course you did. Well, no, okay, cause I'm actually, like, I'm looking, I want to see all the women that have participated in Royce. Mm hmm. Which might be. a bit for you to find. Yes, I got it. I'm scrolling to find. All right, so That was We know this started on NXT. Yes, so i'm going down to NXT right now. Okay, so All right, when they first brought it back there was no women's Neither was the next year So i'm gonna i'm gonna have you count Mm hmm Or tally it up on a piece of paper or whatever. Yep. Yep. Yep. So the first time they did this. Mm hmm Rhea was involved Yeah, Candice LeRae was involved. Yep, that one we know. And EO and Bianca were involved. Yes, that one I know. That was the year that Teagan took out, yeah, or Dakota took out Teagan and walked out. So it literally just left Rhea and Candace. Because it was a 4v4, right? It was supposed to be a 4v4, yes. Yeah, okay. All right, the year after Candace LeRae. Yep, because she was a heel. Yep. Raquel. Yep. Rhea. Yep. Eyo. Yeah, and I believe that was Cora Jade in there as well, correct? That was The year Quorra was in it. No. No, that's the next year then. Okay. Alright, that was 20 Next four games. Okay. We had EO. Of course. Raquel. Mm hmm. And now you're thinking Quorra. Okay. So that was the year we did Quorra. Yes. And then that was them versus team, uh, Total Toxic Attraction plus Dakota Five. Okay. That was also the year that we got the, uh Team 2. 0 versus team, uh, black and gold. Yeah, which made me happy So the following year for blood war games 2022 the first year they had it on the main roster main roster women's war games map consisted of Bianca bel air. Yep Io sky bailey rhea ripley Okay Last year's war games consisted of rhea ripley Did not have Rhea Ripley. It did not? I could've sworn it did. No. Last year's was Bianca Belair, Charlotte Flair, Shotzi, and Becky versus Damage Controls, Kairi Sane, EO Sky, Asuka, and Bailey. So going into this And then this year Yeah, obviously. Bianca, Bailey, Rhea, Io, and Raquel. Raquel and Candace are all the experienced ones. So this is Tiffy's first, Naya's first, Liv's first, and Naomi's first. So I was kind of right. The only one I got wrong was, I think, nope, I got all the ones right. You straight up said, I knew exactly who it was. You said, you had questioned Raquel specifically because you didn't remember. No, this would be her. Third? Third, yes. I didn't mark down the ones for this year, but So I want to point out, Rhea has been the only one that has been in all of them. No, Rhea is not the one that's been in all of them, it is EO. Rhea was not in last year's. Oh, yep, yep, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. Okay. EO is the only one is the only one. That is going on six. Rhea is right behind at this now being her fifth, fourth? Fourth. Okay. Tied with Bianca and Bailey. Or Bianca, yep. And then Raquel, Candice, and Bailey are all at three. Okay. As of this one. Alright. Take us into our next match. I think we spent enough time on the women's. United States Championship match. L. A. Knight defends against a returning Shinsuke Nakamura. So I, I'm gonna go into our predictions. Yep. Before I get into how we got here. Okay. Um, so, going on all of this, Flash has chosen Nakamura. You, Desario, Hex, and, or, I'm sorry, Flash has chosen LA Knight. Yes. Whereas you, Flash, Cauldron, Hex, and Desario have gone Nakamura, and I know what I gave you. I'm switching that. I'm going no contest, and here's why. Okay, I do want to point out something before you continue. You said Flash twice, choosing Nakamura and L. A. Night. I know, and then I, I said Flash had chosen Nakamura, and then I went back and corrected myself. And when you were reading the names back again, you said Flash yet again. Oh my god. So, Flash, L. A. Night, everybody else aside from you, Nakamura. Yes. No contest, there we go, easy words. Thank you. Thank you. So, we got here via Successful title defense a couple weeks ago the SmackDown we were at actually. Nakamura returns after night, successfully defends against Berto. Yes. And attacks me. Basically stating, hey I'm coming for you. Coming for the champion. The last couple weeks have been vignettes and more post match attacks. Uh, this past week Andrade had a match with Nakamura. And this is why I say this will be a no contest. Andrade has a personal beef with Nakamura because he feels he skipped the line. You literally show up after months of being away. By the way, last night on SmackDown, his first match since March. Okay, yeah. It has been eight, almost nine months since that man has been featured on TV. Yeah. That is ridiculous. I agree. Andrade, mad, feels Nakamura cut the line. Feels like, hey, you need to earn it like this. Like I did, like, you know, like Melo did, Birdo, Santos, like everybody that's lined up to face LA Knight has at least been in a position to earn it, if not answered the open challenge. Like, if you really wanted it that bad, you would've showed up for the open challenge. Andrade showed his grievance. They had a match one on one, Nakamura did pick up the win, which was the right move. Uh, so I feel like Andrade, with his personal beef and his own personal desire to get the title. And again, him wanting Nakamura to, you know, back of the line, work his way to that title match, he's gonna come in, he's gonna cost that. Okay. I mean, I totally agree with you. I go off of, you know, not only that, but I kind of go off of what Desario had said for this, and that was Give it to Nakamura, please. No one would take him seriously if he didn't win. And I 100 percent agree with that, unfortunately, because Nakamura has been such a great competitor that y'all already dropped the ball with the WWE Championship years ago. You could have given it to him. Even if it was a short title reign, you could have given it to him. But no, you didn't. You decided, I'm not gonna do that. Okay. Okay, whatever. Next matchup on the card, Triple Threat Intercontinental Championship. We're on Breaker, takes on Seamus and Ludovic Kaiser. We are a bit all over the place in this, where you, Hex, and Cauldron are all choosing Breaker to retain. Flash and Disario are going Kaiser, and I am going with the obvious answer here, Seamus. As much as I want it to be. Seamus, you're only going with your heart on one of them. No, it's not even that. It's, I don't feel like you justifiably have a reason for Breaker to drop the strap in any capacity yet. You just gave it back to him. Stupidly. There's no point to have him lose it immediately a second time. So if y'all don't know how we got here, um, Seamus obviously has been chasing the intercontinental title for a while. This is the one title that is keeping him from being a complete grand slam champion in the world of WWE. Ludwig was granted a match for the championship. This, um, what was it? Not this past Monday. Okay. This past Monday. Where Seamus came out and was like, Hey, you ruined my match. The week prior. You know, my chance at this championship the week prior. I'm going to ruin yours. So, uh, Adam Pearce came out and was like, you know what? Triple threat match. Here we go. So, more or less that, I, I do like Desario's reasoning again on this because he is one of the only other ones that give us a reasoning as to why. And that being, as much as I want Seamus going Kaiser, the story will be great. And that is because it also ties into his prediction for the next one. So I'll have you take us into that. So going into match numero uno. Quatro, on the card. I had to think about it. Alright, next match on the docket. Gunther defends his world heavyweight championship against Damian Priest. Uh, got here the, uh, qualifying fatal four way match, or number one contender fatal four way match. Yes. Which made no damn sense. Tell him why. No damn sense. Carlino went to Adam Pierce a couple weeks prior to this Fatal four way and was like, Hey, I think Dom deserves a shot at the title. He laughed at his face. Pierce laughed at him and he is like, no, I'm being serious. He's put in the work. I think he has what it takes to keep up with the champion. I think you should give him an opportunity to prove it. Mm-Hmm, Cool. He can get a shot at the title if he can beat. A champion, a former world champion of my choosing. Cool, next week on Raw we get Damian Priest, Dominik Mysterio one on one. Dom wins the match. Dom, according to Pearce's words, the week prior should actually be number one contender to Gunther. What do we get the following week? Fatal 4 Way No. 1 Contender Match. Seamus, Rollins, Priest, Mysterio. Why are we having this match when Mysterio has already won the right to challenge via your words two weeks prior, Mr. Adam Pearce? Get it together. Learn how to follow your own goddamn rules. Because nobody wanted to see that. That's why. Nobody wanted to see I mean, I wanted to see Dom did his chest caved in. And you know what? Again, this isn't a matter of what we wanted to see, it's a matter of you're now treating us like we're stupid. Like, we was just gonna forget what you just said. What what your words and act how your words and actions were not lining up at all. Like, we are we are not stupid. We are not boo boo the fool. We do pay attention. Some of us, most of the fans do pay attention. And I know I'm not the only one that feels this way. Cause I've done seated all over socials literally as soon as Roman off the air that night. Yeah. I, I agree. I, I saw it with you. Literally, all over Facebook, all over Twitter, like, Yo, why is, uh, why did Dom have to have a secondary number one contender match? Why isn't Dom getting his title match? He beat Priest the week prior. Like Pierce said, he would get the title match if he So you know what, Pierce? Get it together. You lied to us. Give us the match. Give Dom the match that he earned. I'm never on the side of dirty Dom, but this is one of those You done messed up and I'm gonna speak out on it. Now going into our predictions All but one have chosen Damien Priest. And this is where Desario's previous answer, previous reasoning, to the, uh, triple threat match comes into play. He's choosing Priest. Should I say it word for word? Word for word, go ahead and read it to me. Even though they made Gunther look like a little bitch lately, taking Priest, then Ludwig will finally hold something over Gunther. I was able to win gold, and you went and lost yours. Essentially, like, now I'm champion. Basically, there's that scene in, uh, I don't remember, I know it's a meme, I am the captain now. You know the meme I'm talking about. That is essentially what Ludwig's mindset could be. Why? I'm holding gold. You're not. This is also the gold you lost to Sami Zayn at May India, at the biggest moment of your career. You dropped you lost this. The thing is, is they're already planting some seeds in Imperium. They are definitely planting those splitting seeds. This could really help dig that wedge in a little deeper. Not complete split, but you can definitely, you'll definitely see a lot more rising tension. But yeah, so hex out a woman out here picking up their to retain and honestly I think it is time for us to once again rise for a copy on please Lord, I miss Damien priestess champion. I didn't think I was gonna like I 100 percent had no faith in him as champion in but man did Triple H make him look good He booked him as a proper champion and again hesitant after his u. s. Title reign that wasn't really guarded Man, I like cuz I've known I've known priest since punishment Martinez before and it the NXT thing So I know what priest was always capable of yeah I didn't think he helped actually elevate that world title even more so than it already was. Because think about it, it was Rollins who made that title the most relevant title in WWE. Yeah, well. At that time we also had Roman as champion, so. Yeah. I was going to say, let's look at the other stars. Drew McIntyre held it for all but five minutes. And then Priest came in. Cashed in and legit made that title still look just as good as Rollins had. I absolutely loved that decision and I'm not, and I really want to see Priest elevate his game again. So let me ask you something. Do you think if Priest doesn't win tonight, that he could win the Royal Rumble? Yes. And go on to challenge for this championship again. Yes. I, I, I, I, I, I genuinely believe if he does not win here, he would ha It'd almost be criminal to not call him a favorite going into the Rumble. Priest has been very dominant, he has been very He's been at the top of his game now. Since that cash in. And even after dropping the title at SummerSlam, thanks to interference by Finn Balor, he has still found a way to stay red hot. And in the title picture still. And keep himself relevant. And he's worked really hard. Yeah, so this is where I like, I genuinely feel it'd be really hard to say he's not. Okay. Okay. All right. Going into our main event, our other war games match bloodline Civil War, at its peak, at least what I think is right now, the peak. You have the OG bloodline consisting of Roman Reigns, Jimmy and Jay uso and Sammy Zane alongside uso, alongside CM Punk, taking on the Bloodline 2.0, which consists of Sola Koa Tonga, tga Lola and Jacob Fatou. With Bronson Reed at their side. Now, I'm gonna say it this way because I've seen it online and I've had a few conversations. Do I necessarily feel Reed and Punk were needed as additions to this match? No, I would have been fine with 4v4. I agree. However, do I think they've added elements of unpredictability and a little more flavoring to this story? Yes. Absolutely. Do I feel they're needed? No. Am I kind of happy they're there? A little bit. Not a lot. A little bit. Like, on a scale of 1 to 10, it's like pushing a 4. Of, like, happiness that they're there. Happy? No. But, like, do I understand now why it is? Yes. They've made it work really well. So, going through our predictions, we have one that is the odd man out. Everybody has chosen OG Bloodline to pick up the win here, where you, Brother Pyro, are the only one going Bloodline 2. 0. You didn't realize that, did you? Oh, I did. Oh, I 100 percent did. Do I read Desario's reasoning before we get into yours? Yes. Actually, I wanna do it. Please, take us away from here. I wanna do it. I'mma pull it up. Right now. And I mean, I fully understand why his reasoning is what it is. And I, I've, I 100 percent agree with it. Alright, men's war game team. Roman the Yeah. Yeah, Roman the favor Can you read? Yeah. The favor on Smackdown is leading to Punk versus Roman. They ain't losing. See, and here's the thing. You have a lot of tension within Team Roman. A lot of tension within Team Roman. Anybody that watched Smackdown knows that there is a lot of tension between Punk and Roman. Well, yeah. I mean, who is Punk basic Roman basically telling Punk, I don't want or need your help. Punk stating, I don't want to give it to you. I don't like you. I'm doing this for Paul. Let's think about the last time that Punk was in WWE. Who was the ones that kind of beat him out the door? The Shield. And who was part of the Shield? Roman. Thank you. No, there has been. They have managed to make so many stories tie together with this one move. Rollins is going to be pissed that Punk is involved. Because Bronson Reed is involved and Bronson and Rollins have a rivalry going. So that's a, that's a Hey, I know I said no, but you're still stepping You're still stepping on my toes by going getting involved with somebody I'm already at odds with He already don't like him in the first place there there is literally personal issues there But they have enough mutual respect for each other as competitors to work together Uh, same can be said with a few people on the wwe roster, but we're not going to get into that Cause that doesn't Cause you know, to everybody thinking that he was the problem. In AEW. Anyway. Anywho. Now you've circled back to the tension of Roman vs. Punk. Something we probably should have gotten on a grander scale back in the day. Also, please remember that in 2012, SHIELD debuts. They were hired mercenaries for CM Punk. Specifically. Mhm. Mhm. And, and, and, you also include the factor of Paul Heyman. Punk being one of the, uh, older Heyman guys. Heyman, er, Roman being one of the newer Heyman guys. And Punk is not shy about letting Roman know, I had him first. I like the whole thing. I'm not doing this for you. I'm doing this for him. You owe me no favors after this. Heyman owes me a favor. There is a lot more unity within Bloodline 2. Reed, which is wild. You have the X Factor that is CM Punk. You have the X Factor that is Bronson Reed. Okay. However, you have an even bigger X Factor screw Bronson Reed. Jacob Fatu being the most unpredictable man on any roster right now. Imagine what he's going to do in that cage. I'm sorry. It is going to be wild. I can't get over the fact that they came out with the um, The, the video that they did where they introduced themselves as members of like a football team. And Jacobs is literally, Literally. The Samoan werewolf. I love you, Solo! Hold on, hold on. Okay, so in the men's wargames advantage match, Jacob vs. Jay, which Jacob did pick up the victory. Very important to note. Literally, every time he hit a big move, I love you, Solo! Is that all that man knows how to say? I love you, Solo! Again, is that all that man knows how to say? I love you, Solo! Ask for it. This dude can't say anything else aside from that and I acknowledge Solo. Tribal Chief Solo. I love you, Twisted! Please don't. Please never do that again. Please never do that again, although I'm pretty sure Flash would love to hear that from you. Just one time. But anyway, so I just, I genuinely feel that the tension amongst OG Bloodline is going to be too much. Well, and Bloodline 2. 0 is going to be able to take advantage of that. One thing they have shown, outside of Unity, is their ability to take advantage in cracks in the armor. So let me ask you this. Say Bloodline 2. 0 does pick up the win. Say you're 100 percent correct on that. Wouldn't this end the storyline then? No. No, cause the bigger story is, eventually, and I'm quoting Mark Henry here, cause listen, busted open like a week or so ago. Okay. When is, hey he asked, when is Solo gonna realize he's a punk? You know he's not the one calling the shots. You know he's being used. There is a higher power than him and we all know who that is at this point. It is the final boss. It is The Rock. Once The Rock has no use for him, you know what's going to happen. He's gonna discard him. Solo's gonna be A man without anybody. He's gonna look for his way back into the OG Bloodline. He's going to realize he was a pawn. And, and, and it's funny, cause, Mark said this, uh, Like this, he's like, It wouldn't be him, uh, necessarily Going back, or come, like, Running back to Roman or whatever. It's him coming home. Okay, obviously there's gonna be that tension roman's gonna be like look you betrayed me Now you have now you got to prove it that you're gonna be loyal It's gonna be like hercules when he was trying to be you know, i got again i got again You have to go through all of these tests and feats to show I can trust you so I can allow you back into the ring So then does that mean so this doesn't this doesn't end it? Okay I feel we see the Rock tonight. And I feel like now we are continuing with the Roman Rock train that we've been, we've been on for about two years now. So, going into the next question that I have that goes off of that. They win, we see Rock. Does this mean that we get Civil War versus Civil, does this mean we get another Civil War at Rumble? I don't think we get another Civil War at Rumble. I do genuinely feel. That we are going to see something involving some of these men at Rumble, but I don't think it'll necessarily be Civil War. But I think we're going to further plant the seeds of the eventual collision that we are headed in. Roman Rock, who's truly the head of the table, who's really the guy in charge, who's better fit to lead the family. You know what would have been amazing? And at the end of that, that's when I see storyline concludes, either everybody goes their separate way, or everybody is under one final umbrella, like this is where we're at. You know what I would have loved to have seen, that they could have, like, like they did for our last mania, they threw the wrench in, it would have been a million times greater because we know that. Come, come Wrestlemania 41. We have one of two outcomes. You either have Roman that wins or The Rock that wins. And you have two different outcomes depending upon who wins. You have that train that goes one way and it either splits into two or it splits into two that way. I would have loved to have seen at the very end one of the higher people, like higher than The Rock, come out and go, I'm the final one and then have the Ula, the Ula Fala, the Ula Fala on. It would have been so great because it would have really thrown a wrench in everything. That would have been great. However, how do you do that when majority of them have passed on now? Majority of them are significantly way too old to do this. I wouldn't say fighting. I'm just saying they take it. And that's how you like, or you throw a bigger wrench in and it doesn't end up being either one of them. It ends up being Jacob. You said it, Jacob's like the dark horse in everything. So why not have that Samoan werewolf be the one that controls everything? Why not have him be the one, and it's not really the rock, but the rock is helping him. He's in Rock's ear. He's in Rock's ear, their movie. He's using Rock to use Solo. To move everything. To, like, that one. Throw a wrench in everything. Everything. It's Jacob, as farfetched as that sounds, that would actually be fire. That would actually be amazing. Or what's the other one that you really want to come in, uh, that you keep asking for? I mean, eventually we will see Zillow. Okay. What if it's Zilla? I don't think so In Rox ear. I mean, do you have the possibilities? But Jacob is a little more, you know, there than Zilla is. I think I am. You don't know what to say or do about me right now. Nah, nah, you've done thrown me all the way off. And that was the thing, it's like, How do you throw everybody off like you did last year? You make it be someone you're not expecting. You can't look at it and say, Oh, it could be main event Jey Uso. No. Jay would never, as much as I love Jay, he doesn't have the gonads to call the shots. Jimmy doesn't have the gonads to call the shots. Sammy's not technically family. So we don't, we're not going to count Sammy in this. The only other person other than Jacob that it could be is it ends up being Heyman. And Heyman's guy that he has pulled, that he has on the end of that string is Punk. And that gets Punk his title shot. That's the only other explanation at the end of all of this. So I've been seeing a lot of fan theory and kind of rumor mill. Post SummerSlam. And this is assuming that we get the return of another well known Heyman guy. A Heyman led faction of punk, Roman, Lesnar. Which would eventually lead to a blow up. Mm hmm. Cause, all egos. All of them, his three most successful, but his three biggest egos and clients with the Heyman influence being the center of all of this. And now he's put, and I would love to see it if they do it correctly. Heyman is in everybody's ear saying different things and is the reason that they, that this actually imploded. This isn't a, I'm better than, no, it is Heyman's like, I'm, I'm to you. About him and, um, about him. And about both of them. Like, you know, he's planting the seeds of demise, because he really wants to see who his strongest, who his best and strongest champion would be. Which would be amazing, because then, end of it all, that's who he then aligns with. Well, you know what you could also do is if you, if Heyman doesn't feel like he's ready to end everything, you bring in a new Heyman guy. And I have someone under my brain. Oh, I have a few. I have a list. I have one that's on this card in my, in my brain. Right here? Yeah. Bring in my card. I have a freaking list. So think about it. Punk's on his, Punk is here to, to be home to retire. Lesnar is coming home to retire. Roman's kind of getting up there. We know he's talking like he's talking because of his previous illness as well He's even talking about like it might be sooner rather than later And much as we would love to see him continue with this career a little we get why one The leukemia never know when it's gonna come back to He doesn't feel like he has anything really left to accomplish three More time with his kids. He wants to be able he wants to be an active debt So why not And I love that for him, I'm not, I'm never gonna take that away from him. Why not do that where he's in all three of their ears, they implode, Breaker comes out, out the back, and takes out everybody, and that's how you end that with him with Paul. Him with Paul, but eventually you'd still need that conclusion to that match, cause you cannot tell me that that match wouldn't be amazing. It would. And if we finished that triple threat match with no contest, there would actively be a riot. It would. Well, I'm not even saying just a triple threat match I'm saying do you just see the implosion and he comes in to break to like, but no They're like even worse. There is a few people. I would love to see Heyman ring breaker being one of them definitely Well that does conclude and again getting a bit off track like we normally do Our survivor series war games, we hope you guys enjoy the show tonight and we hope don't forget to hit us up for merch Yeah. You completely threw my, threw my train of thought off. Terribly. Um, if you guys did celebrate it, we hope you guys had an amazing Thanksgiving. And we will see you later in our post show. Later. Enjoy.