Logan Paul's Great UFO Swindle

If you were a world famous 'influencer', professional wrestler, boxer, pokemon card collector and douche bag, what would your next career move be? If you guess stealing UFO footage, you'd be correct.

Join Linz, Chris...and Septembryo, as we dive into Logan Paul's jaunt into the world of UFO enthusiasm, during which time he stole footage of one of the most secretive UFO tapes out there. 

But what does Mr Blobby have to do with all this?

Transcript

00:02.11
Christopher Santos
Bollocks.

00:04.27
Linz
Keep recording.

00:04.51
Michael
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

00:09.68
Christopher Santos
Hello everybody out there in podcast land. I am Chris.

00:17.73
Linz
And I'm Fritz, I mean, Linz.

00:20.93
Christopher Santos
And together we are Dystopian Simulation Radio. Linz, how's it going?

00:27.84
Linz
Yeah, good. Can't complain. Been sailing the seven seas, studying, so on and so on.

00:32.94
Christopher Santos
Yo ho ho.

00:33.27
Linz
How are you? How are you?

00:35.49
Christopher Santos
Yeah, yeah quite quite a lot. It's been a bit like a you know Richard E. Grant film. Richard E. Grant? No, it's not. I mean, Richard Curtis.

00:42.90
Linz
okay

00:44.38
Christopher Santos
It's been like four weddings and a funeral over here. Oh,

00:46.55
Linz
like Oh Chris, that is too on the nose. Yay!

00:50.90
Christopher Santos
but the good news is that I had a child.

00:53.62
Linz
Yay!

00:53.62
Christopher Santos
All right. All good. don't Don't read into anything about that macabre joke there.

00:55.40
Linz
Yeah.

00:59.52
Linz
yeah

00:59.52
Christopher Santos
Baby is all good. Yes. Yes. except for the gas. The gas is a big, big, big problem right now in our house.

01:09.17
Linz
Yeah, he's just he's floating somewhere above Newcastle as we speak.

01:16.09
Christopher Santos
Oh, yes. Yes.

01:17.68
Linz
Put a string on him, Chris.

01:17.95
Christopher Santos
he

01:18.64
Linz
Put a string on him.

01:18.84
Christopher Santos
Yes. He is. It's like that episode of Mr. Bean. anyway, hello. It's been, it's been a while, but it's not been that long.

01:25.92
Linz
Bit of a while.

01:26.66
Christopher Santos
It's, it's not really been that long. So forgive us.

01:28.69
Linz
No.

01:29.12
Christopher Santos
We love you. Had a baby. Let me off. Okay.

01:32.34
Linz
Yeah, a lot of things have happened that we're not even going to mention. But yeah, big things happened.

01:36.14
Christopher Santos
Now, we do have some episodes in the pipeline, though, that coming very, very soon.

01:38.78
Linz
and a

01:42.74
Christopher Santos
And I'm very, very excited about them. all All I'll say is you'll want some cake.

01:52.52
Linz
a very specific type of cake.

01:53.98
Christopher Santos
A very specific type of cake. But anyway, speaking of a specific types of cake...

02:02.78
Christopher Santos
Hello, Septembrio.

02:05.24
Michael
Very nice, very nice. How's it going?

02:10.100
Christopher Santos
Pretty good. I assume you heard what I just said. Eh?

02:15.61
Linz
Way to call someone unprofessional in a passive-aggressive way, Chris.

02:21.66
Christopher Santos
You needed this whole podcasting thing, eh? Not 119 episodes. Nope. Nope.

02:28.37
Linz
Still got hope in his eyes.

02:28.44
Christopher Santos
new

02:31.71
Christopher Santos
Still thanks for edit sweetest friend. Okay.

02:34.84
Linz
got the jitters.

02:35.42
Christopher Santos
Anyway, thank you. Thank you for doing the music for us. It's wonderful.

02:39.64
Linz
yeah

02:39.86
Michael
You're welcome. You're welcome.

02:40.53
Christopher Santos
Yeah. So, Septembero is joining us again today. We're going to be having a lovely episode from him. So both Linz and I are completely in the dark, which is where we both prefer to be because we're allergic to sunlight.

02:56.20
Linz
We're British.

02:57.31
Christopher Santos
We're British. We're British and we like Glenn Danzig. We don't do sun.

03:01.75
Michael
but

03:02.52
Christopher Santos
So just before we get into it though, we do have to say hello to all of our Patreons. So...

03:09.85
Linz
Oh, yes. help Hang on. Let me get comfy. you It's my favorite time of the episode.

03:13.69
Christopher Santos
La la la la la.

03:13.75
Linz
Okay.

03:14.61
Christopher Santos
la Let's go in reverse all of this time. Let's go and reverse it. Okay, so so...

03:19.27
Linz
All right, Satan.

03:22.54
Christopher Santos
Thank you very much. Mr. Peter...

03:25.95
Linz
that scares me. I hate backwards stuff. It scares me. That's why I'm scared of you.

03:30.20
Christopher Santos
That gum you like is going to come back in style. Okay, sorry, professionalism. Yes. Okay, so thank you very much to all of our Patreons. You can join our Patreon over at...

03:42.24
Linz
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03:45.77
Christopher Santos
Look at that, not even a beat missed. So thank you very much to Philipp Hoffman. The Toxic Avenger, Riaz Kay, Wesley Akers, who's currently sitting at WrestleMania right now, you lucky bastard, Drake Halvig, Linz Gibson, not pronounced any other way, Linz.

03:59.28
Linz
Damn.

04:08.86
Christopher Santos
No, and not as lot as any kind of, you know, any kind of ape, any kind of prime ape at all.

04:14.49
Linz
Alright. it was once.

04:16.03
Christopher Santos
No.

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Christopher Santos
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04:35.42
Linz
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04:49.75
Christopher Santos
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05:00.83
Linz
Oh.

05:00.87
Christopher Santos
ringo Ringo Lives or Ring Olives? but Which one? Which one is it? Tell me now.

05:07.50
Linz
I hope it's to ring olives.

05:10.39
Christopher Santos
So i Ring Olives or Ringo Lives, whichever one you are, I'm sorry I bullied you so much into joining.

05:17.04
Linz
I'm not. It's hilarious. Oh, is that the person who sent us the message?

05:20.41
Christopher Santos
I hope so, because course we've left straight away.

05:21.99
Linz
Hello.

05:24.26
Christopher Santos
However, everyone else out there, including you, Michael.

05:29.48
Michael
Yes.

05:29.97
Christopher Santos
what what but what whats what what's what's What's going on?

05:31.23
Michael
I'm sorry. I thought you were going to keep talking.

05:34.58
Christopher Santos
and What's going on? I mean, like, you know, we've got a patron right here with a join button.

05:36.79
Linz
Oh, yeah. I don't see your name on it.

05:38.71
Christopher Santos
Yeah. yeah oh yeah.

05:40.92
Michael
Oh, the bullying tactic works so well.

05:42.10
Christopher Santos
I mean, you think you think you think I'm funny?

05:43.61
Michael
We're going to keep it going.

05:46.10
Christopher Santos
funny

05:46.61
Linz
Funny, like a clown funny.

05:47.28
Christopher Santos
Funny how? Funny like a clown? hitting muse. Is that it?

05:52.63
Christopher Santos
But yes.

05:56.15
Christopher Santos
you you You don't have any.

05:55.100
Linz
He's big enough. He's a big bugger, you know.

06:03.45
Christopher Santos
Moving on.

06:04.43
Michael
So yeah, I guess guess you guys are wondering why I gathered you all here this evening.

06:09.39
Christopher Santos
Yes.

06:09.62
Linz
Yes, actually have no clue.

06:09.83
Christopher Santos
Nearly beloved.

06:12.40
Michael
Well, it seems that Logan Paul has released some footage online, and so every time that happens, you know, I give you guys a call, right?

06:22.45
Christopher Santos
Oh god.

06:23.47
Michael
Okay.

06:23.73
Linz
Oh no, has he is he colorblind again?

06:24.49
Michael
Again...

06:28.59
Christopher Santos
If not, let him back into Japan, I think.

06:28.88
Michael
again

06:30.96
Linz
god

06:33.01
Michael
So have you guys heard the news? Logan Paul released some UFO footage.

06:38.29
Linz
no

06:40.34
Christopher Santos
So, so so this is this is like an intersection of two of my favorite things, UFO footage and professional wrestling.

06:48.34
Michael
Okay. I'm glad you didn't say Logan Paul.

06:50.51
Christopher Santos
No, no.

06:51.67
Linz
But isn't it Jake Paul who's a wrestler?

06:54.62
Christopher Santos
No, Jake Paul's the boxer. And I think Logan Paul boxed as well, as well.

06:57.21
Linz
Oh, is Logan the wrestler?

06:58.83
Christopher Santos
But he's he's he's literally signed to the wwe WWE.

07:00.63
Linz
I've got Google it.

07:02.11
Christopher Santos
And I don't like the guy, but I can't deny that he's good.

07:06.22
Linz
Logan Paul wrestling.

07:07.83
Michael
So

07:09.11
Linz
No, I just didn't know which Paul it was.

07:10.29
Christopher Santos
Like, yeah, no, no, he's he's got no, he's only had about like, I don't know, less than 20 bouts and he's got no, no right being that, that good.

07:11.07
Linz
Oh, my God. Yes, so he is.

07:18.62
Christopher Santos
But he's just, he's he's very athletic, but apparently also obtains UFO footage. So is he in with Tom DeLonge? What's going on?

07:27.67
Linz
I think they've just come to take back this specimen, Chris.

07:30.98
Christopher Santos
man.

07:32.48
Michael
Well, they might be competing, I don't know. But we we got the footage now. I guess he just released it on the Jesse Michaels show last week.

07:41.06
Christopher Santos
Who?

07:41.35
Michael
And Jesse Michaels had Bob Lazar and Luigi Vanditelli on for their new documentary that just came out called S4, The Bob Lazar Story.

07:45.91
Linz
Oh.

07:53.09
Michael
And I guess he was kind of like a surprise guest, Logan Paul. And so he revealed this footage. And I thought that we could take a look at it and give our thoughts and then maybe do a deep dive into its history because it's got a surprisingly rich history considering it came from Logan Paul.

08:12.50
Linz
What? So the it's got a surprisingly rich rich history and it came out recently.

08:17.99
Michael
Yeah, yeah.

08:18.53
Linz
And it's been taken seriously.

08:20.77
Michael
Yeah, at first when I first heard about it, which was i think like two years ago, Logan Paul mentioned it, I wasn't really taking it seriously at all. But the more I've learned about it, the more I feel like it deserves to kind of be under a microscope and take a real look at it.

08:40.93
Linz
Either you really want to believe or this is a good ass video.

08:45.09
Michael
ha Well...

08:49.28
Michael
see i don't know how do you guys feel do you want watch it first and then we'll do a deep dive or do you want a little bit of background first

08:56.19
Christopher Santos
I think a little bit of background first would be would be good.

08:57.95
Linz
Okay, yeah.

08:58.71
Christopher Santos
And and it can you just, just just is Tom DeLonge involved in this story somewhere?

09:05.41
Michael
he is not at this at this time at this time I can see him getting involved.

09:06.43
Linz
oh Oh.

09:07.37
Christopher Santos
God damn it.

09:11.82
Michael
but So basically the story goes that Logan Paul stole this footage from someone else. Which makes sense.

09:19.15
Linz
What? Well, of course.

09:20.27
Michael
Because even if it's legitimate footage, there's got to be a dishonest aspect to it. so Yeah, he stole the footage, I think, a couple years ago. We'll get into exactly how he stole it and who he stole it from. But he's been talking about this footage for a while on different podcasts. And he chose the Jesse Michaels show to unveil it because he wanted Bob Lazar, who many of you know is the Area 51 whistleblower that came out in 89.

09:51.35
Linz
Yeah.

09:51.48
Michael
and yeah, kind of was the first to blow the whistle on that stuff.

09:52.04
Christopher Santos
Yeah.

09:55.68
Michael
So he wanted to get Bob Lazar's opinion on it. And so that's why we're getting to see it now. So apparently this footage dates dates back to the ninety s It's kind of made its way through different hands.

10:01.28
Linz
Okay.

10:07.35
Michael
And here we are. It ended up in Logan Paul's hands.

10:11.90
Christopher Santos
So

10:12.03
Linz
Wait, so is this like physical media?

10:15.46
Michael
hu

10:15.62
Christopher Santos
this is this like a videotape from The Ring?

10:18.53
Linz
Yeah. like

10:20.03
Christopher Santos
Because how how is it, if it's just like, you know, aliens.mp4, how has that not been leaked?

10:27.88
Michael
So originally, yes, it was on a VHS tape is what I'm hearing.

10:31.42
Linz
Yes.

10:33.76
Michael
Logan Paul, while viewing it from somebody else, recorded it using a button camera. And that's how he stole it.

10:43.66
Linz
but Oh, like a camera in in a shirt button, like a spy cam.

10:45.90
Michael
Yeah.

10:47.10
Linz
Okay. I was like, what's a button camera?

10:47.84
Michael
That's right.

10:48.52
Christopher Santos
why Why is he, did he, like, did he know in advance that he was going to be, he was going to see this? Or does he just always wear a button camera?

10:57.07
Linz
Oh my God.

10:57.39
Michael
I'm yeah I'm gonna guess both

10:57.51
Linz
He definitely always wears a button camera. 100%. hundred percent It's like meta glasses, but meta button. And then he just, how the hell does he, I guess we're going to find out, but how the hell does Logan Paul end up watching VHS of a UFO?

11:13.77
Linz
And okay, okay.

11:14.27
Michael
that's the rich history there yeah

11:16.66
Linz
All right. Oh my God. I just honestly thought this would be a clip of him seeing a UFO, recording it on his phone and putting it on TikTok. I didn't realize he was like, oh my God, guys.

11:24.87
Christopher Santos
Oh, with his dumbass, like, who face that he has.

11:33.63
Linz
All right. All right.

11:34.38
Michael
So i have the I have the link to the video.

11:34.42
Linz
Let's let's continue.

11:36.42
Michael
I can send it to you guys now.

11:38.15
Linz
Oh, God, yes.

11:39.30
Michael
we can kind of We can talk about the footage just kind of at face value first. And then, yeah, I'll be able to answer all your questions, or most of them at least. And it's it's pretty quick.

11:48.97
Linz
How long is it? The video, that is.

11:51.81
Michael
It's a very quick clip. I think it might be 30 seconds long.

11:55.75
Linz
okay. Okay, let's see it.

11:58.02
Christopher Santos
So this is what it's like spending 30 seconds on...

11:58.44
Michael
Yeah.

12:02.22
Christopher Santos
I I can't remember his fucking name. What's his aboutter's name?

12:05.48
Linz
Logan Paul.

12:06.06
Christopher Santos
Logan Paul. I was like, Jake, Jake, low Jake, Jake.

12:08.54
Linz
Yeah, exactly. Oh, here we go.

12:11.46
Christopher Santos
Never mind. That joke has sailed.

12:15.87
Linz
All right.

12:16.22
Christopher Santos
Right.

12:16.39
Linz
Tell tell me when. Oh, shit, it's playing. Okay. Oh, what the hell? Okay, anyways. Count us in.

12:26.43
Michael
Who, me? Okay.

12:27.46
Linz
Yeah, you, host.

12:29.06
Michael
Three, two, one

12:32.35
Christopher Santos
Okay, so

12:34.19
Linz
It looks like a trilby.

12:37.25
Michael
So this footage, it takes place inside a truck.

12:37.97
Christopher Santos
there's a lot of tracking on this looks like it's

12:41.82
Michael
So what you're seeing is the dashboard of the truck. And apparently the the guys filming it are crouching down kind of like underneath, like they're hiding in the truck.

12:52.74
Michael
And you can see the truck is glowing orangish and the light's kind of coming in and out. That light source is apparently coming from this disk-shaped object up in the sky just just kind of above them.

13:07.88
Linz
Oh, a truck, like an open back flatbed truck.

13:08.04
Christopher Santos
alright yeah The tracking on this makes it tracking our mess makes it look like this object is speeding through space.

13:11.57
Michael
Yeah.

13:11.72
Linz
Oh, okay.

13:12.89
Michael
A pickup truck.

13:14.28
Linz
So they're driving, are they driving alongside this?

13:17.15
Michael
No, they're parked. this is apparently

13:18.26
Linz
They're parked.

13:21.39
Michael
This is apparently just outside of Area 51. It

13:24.30
Linz
Right.

13:29.20
Linz
Yeah, right?

13:30.32
Michael
it looks like a star is flying by.

13:31.66
Christopher Santos
Yeah.

13:32.49
Linz
It looks like Joe's Jugs, Joe's Jugs Pancakes.

13:39.51
Michael
Looks like Joe's jokes.

13:41.10
Linz
whatever he was called Joe Simonton i don't know right

13:44.81
Christopher Santos
and

13:47.53
Christopher Santos
So this is this is the the ground breaking footage.

13:54.86
Michael
Yes. it's It's a bit overhyped.

13:55.78
Christopher Santos
Right.

13:57.88
Michael
Although, if it...

13:58.62
Linz
a bit I don't even know what I'm looking at

14:02.94
Michael
It's a bit overhyped. Although if it is actually from, I believe, the specific year that it's being dated was 1995, it could be pretty compelling based on that.

14:17.08
Linz
In what capacity?

14:17.34
Michael
But...

14:17.70
Christopher Santos
yeah yeah yeah Yeah, please expand.

14:19.92
Linz
Elaborate. Elaborate, f please.

14:21.86
Christopher Santos
Also, who has a Sanyo television?

14:23.82
Linz
I was just about to say sanyo.

14:28.15
Christopher Santos
I love it how how it flicks to upscaled and it's like, that?

14:32.29
Linz
Like, I don don't know what I just looked at. I just looked at an orange thing. Like, I don't know.

14:39.57
Michael
So yeah, just the...

14:39.73
Linz
How is it compelling for $19.95?

14:41.81
Michael
So to to describe it a little bit more for anyone just kind of listening, although you can this video is everywhere, so you can view it now, it's it's very dark. It's in a truck at night. It's apparently outside Area 51. You can see the dashboard glowing, the light kind of coming in and out. And then a little bit further into the video, they kind of get the nerve to point at the sky. And you can see this orange disk a couple hundred feet above the truck kind of rotating and what's the word you would describe?

15:12.70
Michael
Kind of like, almost like a if you were to drop a plate on the ground and be like spinning, it's like, Yeah, so there's white flecks on the screen from like the tracking.

15:21.17
Linz
I don't know if I even saw that. It just looked like something was just in hyperspace.

15:30.61
Michael
Cause from what I hear, that the tape itself is so old that it's just gotten, you know, it's it's old, it's damaged.

15:31.02
Linz
Yeah.

15:38.96
Michael
So it has a lot of,

15:40.18
Christopher Santos
Stop describing me.

15:41.65
Michael
That's

15:42.54
Linz
yeah Chris does this not remind you of where we did the Fresno Nightcrawlers and they had like a recording of a TV that was it was like a recording of a recording of a recording and it was so blurry we were like I see something moving but just like a white stick it's kind of reminding me of that because maybe I just have to watch this again because I did I did not get the the sense that we were in a truck at all like

15:52.30
Christopher Santos
Yes.

16:10.25
Michael
Right, and the other thing too is like the the screen is so small because we're looking at a recording of a recording. So Logan Paul has the button camera on. He's watching it on like a tiny little TV.

16:22.93
Michael
And so it's the screen within a screen. So you're not getting the best quality version even of this not great quality video. So yeah, the the footage itself was pretty,

16:36.78
Michael
hyped up a lot i think the first mention of it was by filmmaker james fox uh he pointed it out i believe for the first time in 2023 he was on podcasts like joe rogan and uh he talks about the footage if you look up him talking about he hypes it up as like the greatest footage in existence

17:00.02
Linz
Is he okay?

17:01.62
Michael
He's a, so a little bit of background, James Fox. James Fox is a, is a filmmaker kind of slash UFO researcher does a lot of documentaries on UFO stuff. He did the phenomenon and the program and out of the blue. So he's pretty successful in his own right. And, you know, he makes a lot of public appearances about UFOs. And so he's, he's talked about this footage. And so I guess,

17:28.50
Michael
let's get into where James Fox would have heard about it. This video was is owned, quotations owned, by Chuck Clark, which do either of you know who Chuck Clark is?

17:43.31
Christopher Santos
Chuck from Chuck's Videos.

17:46.94
Linz
no

17:48.28
Christopher Santos
We got a $1.99 special on a Friday down here at Chuck's Videos. You can get all your your alien needs.

17:53.11
Linz
My homemade UFO videos.

17:53.60
Christopher Santos
we got i I got Alien, I got Aliens, I got Alien 3, I got Alien Resurrection. I don't have Alien vs. Predator though. I do have Predator.

18:04.80
Christopher Santos
And if you go to the back, I'll be a Predator.

18:06.81
Michael
Half of it's taped over by Golden Girls, but most of it's there.

18:11.28
Christopher Santos
Now y'all remember, be kind, rewind, and and bring those videos back here.

18:17.99
Linz
Logan Paul.

18:19.72
Michael
So you're not too far off if you, if you've seen Chuck Clark or any of his interviews.

18:23.17
Linz
Okay.

18:27.35
Michael
So Chuck Clark was pretty prominent in the nineties in the UFO scene. He, his, he lives in his trailer in Rachel Nevada, just outside of area 51.

18:38.45
Michael
And he's a, he's a retired astronomer and self-described military watchdog. And, uh,

18:46.57
Linz
Sorry.

18:47.40
Michael
yeah yeah

18:48.51
Linz
I'm still not over living in a trailer outside of Area

18:53.93
Christopher Santos
if you can Can you do that?

18:56.04
Christopher Santos
Can you just can he can you just like pull a trailer up to anywhere and call yourself like a watchdog?

18:56.69
Linz
can you do that?

19:02.44
Christopher Santos
Can we park outside 10 Downing Street and just call ourselves like governmental watchdogs?

19:07.83
Linz
I think so.

19:09.48
Michael
So I guess the one of the the things about the location of Area 51 is that there's major highways that are pretty close to it, which is why you'll see videos of people kind of, you know, outside of it kind of filming lights in the sky and stuff, because it's if you go not too far in from the highway, you can start to see things.

19:09.51
Linz
Yeah.

19:29.80
Michael
But what Chuck Clark would do is he would basically just go around pissing off the military and he would dig up it would dig up military censors that were outside the base and he'd be like, this is public property, you can't be censoring us.

19:40.98
Linz
you

19:46.17
Michael
And so the self-described military watchdog just basically meant just pissing the military off left and right. So he wrote the book Area 51 and S4 Handbook.

19:58.92
Michael
And so he he he was pretty public in the 90s. George Knapp, who first broke the Bob Lazar story, interviewed him multiple times. And so he is the one, Chuck Clark, who originally got hold of the footage. And according to him,

20:18.74
Michael
it's It was filmed in 1995. And although he didn't talk publicly about it, I believe George Knapp and James Fox, they they can verify that he has talked about it privately since then, but he's kept it under wraps just due to a a promise that he wouldn't unveil it.

20:40.76
Michael
He was told he could show it to people, but he couldn't publish it.

20:44.07
Linz
From who?

20:45.18
Michael
From who? Right. So, God, it gets convoluted. So, and this was so, this was so tricky to get actual timelines in because,

20:56.82
Michael
When something hasn't been public for decades and then all you have are you know third party accounts of what's going on, you get everyone's different versions of the stories. So what I was able to find out was Chuck Clark obtained it from an acquaintance of his who worked for some major news network in Burbank, California.

21:21.88
Michael
who got it from an acquaintance of his who filmed the footage.

21:25.43
Linz
Oh my god.

21:26.83
Michael
And the witnesses are described as two college-age civilians on a road trip to Area 51 in the 90s. So this is kind of amazing because apparently when you see the full video as it's described, you got these two college kids on the road being like, we're going to Area 51.

21:46.51
Michael
And they were like filming... the extraterrestrial highway sign, they're at the alien, all these things, like they're just doing the tourist thing. And then the video cuts into them being terrified outside of Area 51.

21:57.81
Linz
Are you sure that that this is not just a really long game of like some promotional thing for a found footage alien abduction movie that Logan Paul's going to star in? Because he was an actor on Disney or something.

22:12.37
Michael
I do know that it's not Logan Paul's creation, or Logan Paul is not the source of it.

22:18.16
Linz
He doesn't have to be the source. He could be the actor and in an upcoming found footage alien movie. i Wait, where does Logan Paul come into all this?

22:29.78
Michael
Okay. So, apparently what has happened...

22:33.08
Linz
Chris, are you still with us?

22:34.52
Michael
Yeah.

22:35.44
Christopher Santos
I'm just soaking all of this in.

22:37.56
Christopher Santos
Like, I, sorry, I kind of went off. like So, you know, being a parent of two young children, my reference points for a lot of things are children's books.

22:47.09
Christopher Santos
And what you just said, Mikey, was pretty much the plot of Tiddler, the fish that gets lost.

22:53.62
Linz
There's not a book called Tiddler.

22:55.20
Christopher Santos
There is Julia Donaldson about a fish that tells big, a little fish that tells big stories. And, Yeah, he heard, there's a whole bit in it where we're like, oh, yeah, we heard it from fish, we heard it from the squid, we heard it from the whale, we heard it from the turtle, we it from two guys outside of Area 51.

23:04.64
Linz
And Michael, that's you

23:17.46
Christopher Santos
And I was kind of getting flashbacks there.

23:24.10
Linz
Okay.

23:25.06
Michael
Yeah, i I have definite questions about this.

23:25.56
Linz
Logan Paul.

23:28.34
Michael
The timeline's a bit convoluted. But yes, so originally two college kids recorded their road trip to Area 51. They actually captured something.

23:38.68
Michael
They got in touch with Chuck Clark, who, you know like I said, in the 90s, was a bit more prominent and well-known then. And they wanted to give him the footage so that it wouldn't get taken from them.

23:51.23
Michael
And so they they gave it to a friend who was in contact with Chuck Clark, and that's how Chuck Clark obtained it. And I guess in the years since he had shown, James Fox is one of the people he's shown, but he's he showed it to what he describes as a few NASA people who have who said it would look legit to them. But it's all kind of...

24:13.70
Michael
You know, there's not much to go off of. So how Logan Paul gets in the picture is James Fox starts talking about this footage.

24:23.68
Michael
I want to say it's an earlier year than it was, but really, I think he only started talking about it in like 2022. so because of james fox's podcast appearances and talking about this i guess logan paul is a ufo nut and so logan paul apparently so i guess logan paul goes to james fox he hears him telling the story he says hey james how can i see this footage i want to see it right so james fox facilitates a meeting between chuck clark and logan paul and

24:32.00
Linz
Okay.

24:41.48
Linz
Is he? Okay.

24:44.22
Linz
Okay.

24:45.53
Christopher Santos
I can believe this.

24:59.68
Michael
And the story goes that Logan Paul came with $200,000 cash in his pocket trying to buy the footage.

25:09.35
Linz
Okay. k

25:09.87
Michael
And Chuck Clark refused. He says it's not for sale. It's not to be made public. And so Logan Paul decides to film it himself and steal it. and And then Logan Paul starts talking about the footage publicly. And at first he kind of hypes it up too. And then he starts talking about...

25:30.56
Michael
Oh, it's it's compelling, but it's not convincing, and he's kind of downplaying it. And then, of course, Chuck Clark gets word of this, and he starts threatening to sue. So I don't know what changed between then and now, but that's kind of the loose timeline of how Logan Paul came across it.

25:49.23
Linz
You know, when Logan Paul was in the suicide forest in Japan, wasn't he wearing a hat of one of the aliens from Pizza Planet and Toy Story?

26:01.26
Linz
Right?

26:01.64
Christopher Santos
yes he was and that was like that like meme of him wasn't it oh

26:02.83
Linz
He was, wasn't he? He was wearing an alien hat. Yeah, he was wearing an alien hat. So maybe he has been a UFO not all along.

26:13.49
Christopher Santos
yeah but i mean plenty of people like toy story if but don't believe in aliens no but i do host a podcast about this stuff

26:19.47
Linz
Have you ever wore an alien from Pizza Planet hat, Chris?

26:26.69
Linz
That's true. I feel like we are the only people with a podcast where we constantly talk about aliens and know nothing about them.

26:35.79
Michael
I mean, technically, no one really does know anything about them, but, you know.

26:39.44
Linz
You know a lot about them. You're like, have you guys heard of clock and gimbal or whatever he's called? In the late 90s, he camped outside of Area 51.

26:45.00
Michael
but Clark Gimbel.

26:48.41
Linz
And so anyways, Bob Lazar, it's just like, who are these people?

26:54.60
Michael
I mean, to be fair,

26:56.84
Linz
You're like, they're celebrities.

26:57.20
Christopher Santos
Bob Lazar, Bob Lazar. da data

26:59.63
Michael
I only know what I've been told, so

27:02.72
Linz
I have I think I told you I have a signed sketch, a Bob Lazar sketch of a UFO that my friend Mark got me. Shout out to Mark. and He knows a lot about Bob Lazar. We should had him on.

27:15.84
Linz
Right. So Logan Paul steals the footage on his button cam, releases it. Where does he release it again? On the.

27:25.47
Michael
So this was just recently.

27:25.73
Linz
Okay.

27:26.83
Michael
This was last week, April 13th on the Jesse Michaels Show.

27:27.32
Linz
Okay.

27:30.79
Michael
So Jesse Michaels had Bob Lazar and Luigi Van Ditelli on because Luigi was the director of the the new Bob Lazar documentary that's on Amazon right now.

27:41.88
Michael
And I feel like this is kind of a dick move on Jesse Michaels part, because if I was invited on a show and then the host was like, hey, we have a surprise guest who wants to talk to you. It's Logan Paul. I would have just walked out, but that's what he did.

27:59.29
Linz
oh

27:59.55
Michael
And so Logan took that opportunity to unveil the footage so he could get up Bob Lazar's comments about it. And according to Lazar, the way the ship moves in the footage and the way it glows and everything, it it matches up with a lot of details that he's familiar with, with what he calls the sport model, which is the the alleged flying craft that he worked on.

28:22.20
Linz
Sport mode.

28:25.47
Michael
So Not much to go up. Bob didn't say it was legit. he did He did just say that the the details matched up.

28:33.98
Christopher Santos
the middle ground. It's such a safe place to sit, isn't In

28:36.52
Michael
It really is. What?

28:39.89
Linz
But really, can... We all saw the footage, right? Like, can you really comment on anything any of us saw there? Like, it it was just an orange blob.

28:55.88
Linz
Right?

28:56.08
Christopher Santos
my professional opinion, that is an orange blob.

28:56.32
Linz
Like, am I losing my mind? But

29:00.72
Christopher Santos
i've seen I've seen many a blob in my time, and I can say that that one was definitely orange.

29:05.77
Linz
Like, Mr. Blobby. That would be

29:08.19
Christopher Santos
Oh, yeah, Mr. Blobby, that is a different cat. It's a different cat than Mr. Blobby.

29:15.35
Linz
And he has a fucking wife and family. Who knew?

29:19.70
Christopher Santos
Jesus.

29:20.25
Linz
Anyways. But it was just an orange blob, right?

29:21.94
Michael
I

29:23.45
Linz
Like.

29:24.92
Michael
the the The takeaways that I have from it, that some details that make it compelling to me is the fact that there is a rough timeline connecting it to the 90s.

29:38.97
Michael
So it's like if it was filmed in the 90s, I'd put, if we can prove that it was filmed in the 90s, I would put way more stock in the footage.

29:47.08
Linz
But why?

29:48.53
Michael
Because, well, 1995, it'd be really hard for anyone to get their hands on any kind of computer generated stuff. Obviously, there's no AI.

30:00.09
Michael
Going back to 2022, Fox was first... talking about the footage, we can kind we can pretty much say that it's not AI generated in the way we know that AI is generated today. And James Fox did say that the footage that Logan Paul released was the footage that he saw. So he did confirm it's the same footage.

30:25.57
Michael
However, I don't like the fact that nobody has talked about it pre publicly previous to 2022. i would If there was a little bit more public discussion about it going back to the 90s and people confirming that, yes, I seen this in the 90s, and yes, you know what we're seeing today is the same footage, that would help a lot, but I'm not seeing that.

30:39.49
Linz
I

30:48.77
Linz
i mean I know 1995 was a while ago, but it wasn't like we were all cavemen filming things on rocks. Like Jurassic Park came out in 1993. Like,

31:00.42
Michael
Well, a Victorian.

31:00.93
Linz
like like Jesus. And also, like, you wind up a window on a van and shine a torch out into the darkness. You can get a reflection of a an orb that's traveling the same speed as you. don't think it's too hard to fake.

31:15.59
Linz
I mean, a Victorian could have probably faked that in a photo. So I don't think it's

31:19.70
Michael
victoria

31:19.56
Christopher Santos
It's... it's

31:21.15
Linz
No, but you know what I mean? Like, it's it's not like, i know we didn't have ai and we didn't, but you know, like I said, like we could make fucking Jurassic Park. I'm sure we could make a orange blob outside a window.

31:33.06
Michael
i mean Steven Spielberg and millions of dollars could.

31:36.07
Linz
Yeah, but I could probably make that with a torch, given the right, given enough time.

31:40.97
Michael
i mean That might be a cool challenge to do. See who can fake the best UFO footage on DSR and then share it.

31:46.37
Linz
gi but Like, yeah, and then just show Bob Lazar and he can go, well, that definitely links up with things that I know. Like, it's just... I don't know, man. Like, i know it was 1985, but, you know.

31:59.69
Christopher Santos
Sorry, sorry. September, did you just suggest a competition of faking UFO footage? Because I am so fucking here for that.

32:08.33
Linz
Should we? That, you know what? We have the Christmas quiz, right? We need, like, the spring challenge of faking UFOs and cryptids. Should we do that?

32:18.37
Christopher Santos
Yes. Yeah.

32:19.03
Michael
That'd be pretty fun.

32:18.97
Christopher Santos
Yeah. Like just, just fake footage. Like just like it's UFO or Bigfoot or, or whatever, but like just try to make it as convincing as possible.

32:25.03
Linz
Okay, a UFO.

32:31.45
Christopher Santos
And, oh, yes.

32:33.30
Linz
Yes, should we? Oh my God, that's the new challenge. And then we don't tell, we don't say say who's is who's and then like the listeners can judge which is the more convincing.

32:36.48
Michael
That'd be fun.

32:39.94
Michael
yeah

32:40.95
Christopher Santos
We don't, we don't, we don't tell September. Oh, uh, because we don't want, oh shit. Oh shit. He's here. it. Play it Play How

32:48.20
Linz
just Just like mute him.

32:49.06
Christopher Santos
that that plate blow blow play cool play cool play it cool how about those leafs say what i What a...

32:51.46
Linz
Okay.

32:54.92
Linz
Yeah, Chris.

32:56.38
Michael
Oh, yeah, bud.

32:56.48
Linz
oh

33:00.74
Christopher Santos
What a... What a...

33:03.49
Michael
Hoser.

33:04.41
Christopher Santos
a...

33:05.50
Michael
What a hoser. Just living in a trailer outside Area 51, eh? What a guy. I'd say I'm all for this contest. Obviously, the only rule is no ai If you can...

33:18.46
Linz
yeah chris

33:19.42
Michael
If you can...

33:18.91
Christopher Santos
Yes, yeah, actually, know that's a good point. It's got to be, you've you've got to like like, put yourself into George Lucas's mind on the original films, not on the sequels, prequels.

33:24.46
Linz
1995 style.

33:25.47
Michael
Yeah, if you if you have a...

33:31.77
Michael
I mean, I'd be open to computer generated graphics because that's a skill in itself.

33:35.36
Linz
No.

33:36.53
Michael
like If you can pull that off, do it.

33:36.89
Linz
No, no, no. No, no computer generated nothing.

33:40.06
Michael
No, you want to you wanna to go practical all the way?

33:42.11
Christopher Santos
I don't know. after

33:42.63
Linz
Yep.

33:43.49
Christopher Santos
I think, like, i don't know. yeah, like like a little bit of CGI is okay, but if it's like fully, well, yeah, because how are you going to do it, man?

33:48.67
Linz
No.

33:50.45
Michael
Linz is against it.

33:52.89
Christopher Santos
Like,

33:53.53
Linz
Stop it. No computers involved. Apart from your phone filming it.

33:56.03
Michael
I have ideas.

34:01.02
Christopher Santos
gay

34:02.09
Linz
Yes.

34:04.40
Linz
I'm excited.

34:05.25
Michael
Oh, my other stipulation is we have to be transparent about it.

34:05.40
Linz
When's the deadline?

34:08.90
Michael
We can't put it out there and see if people get tricked because I'm against that. I had i had somebody i had somebody approach me to do that as like they try try to do a kind of publicity stunt for Septembrio.

34:14.14
Linz
I knew...

34:21.20
Michael
And I was like, I'm taking a firm stance against faking UFO footage. Thank you very much.

34:26.69
Linz
You should have said yes like all the other UFO people. Hey, remember when I tricked you with my UFO that I saw on a plane?

34:35.39
Linz
Oh, maybe it was too long ago.

34:37.63
Michael
No, I don't remember.

34:38.89
Linz
What?

34:39.29
Christopher Santos
It wasn't me either.

34:40.73
Michael
I mean, if Logan Paul released it, maybe.

34:41.01
Linz
Oh, damn.

34:43.97
Michael
Maybe. a

34:44.62
Linz
I'll send it to Logan Paul first. I'll be like, come here fly here and film it on your button cam.

34:51.48
Christopher Santos
I've got another ridiculously expensive Pokemon card for you to buy here, Logan.

34:55.91
Linz
I've got a crypto rug pull for you over here.

34:57.73
Christopher Santos
Yeah.

34:58.43
Linz
and Allegedly.

35:01.49
Christopher Santos
Whoa, is that a Chinese Shouzard?

35:04.13
Linz
We fake cryptids and they fake crypto. Allegedly.

35:07.95
Christopher Santos
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

35:09.37
Linz
yeah Okay. Anyways, back to the story.

35:14.72
Michael
Yeah, so i do there is another compelling detail that kind of adds some weight to this in as far as verifying the timeline and and the footage itself.

35:26.97
Michael
Apparently, James Fox had been bugging Chuck Clark to let him take this footage and release it for years.

35:37.31
Michael
And just again and again. So apparently this was this was taking place in the 90s. James Fox was in touch with Chuck Clark. So... if you're unless chuck Unless James Fox is a big fat liar, that does take it back to the 90s. Although, based on James Fox's description of the footage, he really overhyped it. So we kind of have to take what he says with a grain of salt. But this this verifiable information is interesting because he does say that at certain point, Chuck Clark says, i don't have the footage anymore.

36:13.93
Michael
and And I assume that means the original tape because

36:20.45
Linz
Oh, here we go.

36:21.61
Michael
when he was tu yeah When he was talking with George Knapp, who again is the journalist who broke the Bob Lazar story, George Knapp said, oh, I know Chuck Clark.

36:22.01
Linz
Where's the tape?

36:32.37
Michael
He got raided by the FBI. And he's like, what? And so very quickly after obtaining this tape, because they say this happened in 1995, and I found news footage of it, when George Knapp was interviewing Chuck Clark,

36:46.72
Michael
for his news program, the FBI raided his trailer and took a bunch of things. It's not specifically said that that footage was taken, but a lot of stuff was taken.

36:58.25
Michael
And...

36:59.45
Christopher Santos
but A lot of hard drives for taken, eh?

37:01.85
Michael
and and

37:02.67
Linz
I was going to say, when the FBI raids you, it's not usually because of aliens.

37:07.42
Michael
Well, one one thing that makes it weird...

37:08.32
Christopher Santos
No, no, sir. We found no alien footage.

37:11.13
Michael
One thing that makes it weird is...

37:12.00
Christopher Santos
Unfortunately.

37:13.60
Linz
We wish we had.

37:14.85
Michael
We wish we had. No charges were ever laid against Chuck Clark. So we don't know why the raid happened. They did nothing with it. They just took property and that was that.

37:27.26
Michael
So it was probably just, I mean, if you want to get down to it, he was, he was pissing it off the government kind of left and right.

37:29.73
Christopher Santos
Sounds like the Adams County Sheriff.

37:35.38
Michael
So maybe they just wanted to mess with him. But so with,

37:38.79
Linz
I'm sure that's what he wants everyone to think.

37:41.82
Michael
I'm sure he was delighted in... Because it adds legitimacy to his story, right?

37:47.01
Linz
Does it, though?

37:48.22
Michael
Well, because, yeah, there's proof that he got raided and everything, right?

37:50.85
Linz
Yes, but rated for what?

37:51.61
Michael
And no charges were laid. Exactly, right? if they're In my opinion, if you're getting raided for something, charges are going to be laid. Like, something's going to happen. They're going to say...

38:05.34
Michael
even if they're not saying publicly why they're doing it, there's going to be some kind of repercussions towards Chuck Clark. that's That's my thinking. you know They're not just going to raid you for no...

38:15.68
Linz
If they found something and if it happened.

38:18.49
Michael
I guess that's true. I guess that's true.

38:19.81
Christopher Santos
And if this footage is real.

38:21.56
Linz
And if this story is real, is it April 1st, Michael?

38:21.73
Michael
So you think like... So you think like Chuck Clark would have just put in an anonymous call and be like, I hear this trailer has some bombs in it.

38:31.38
Linz
Yes. Yes. Because then he can, if he wants to be legitimate, he could just call on himself and go, oh, they came for me and they took the tape.

38:40.85
Michael
He's got plutonium.

38:40.76
Linz
Like, yeah but Yeah, but you know what I mean? I don't have the tape.

38:44.69
Christopher Santos
They took my damn tapes.

38:48.49
Michael
They took my Alien Resurrection slash Golden Girls VHS.

38:53.86
Linz
Recorded from the TV with adverts.

38:55.78
Christopher Santos
They took all, I had six and a half seasons of The Sopranos left to watch.

39:02.41
Linz
Just like me.

39:04.59
Michael
I mean, if he had the some Sopranos VHS in the 90s, then that proves that he's a time traveler.

39:09.49
Christopher Santos
He had money.

39:10.89
Michael
I

39:11.76
Christopher Santos
oh yeah, well, yeah, to be fair, to be fair, my whole Twin Peaks box.

39:11.88
Linz
He had money.

39:12.61
Linz
He had enough. he had Spielberg money.

39:16.30
Michael
i stole time travel tech.

39:19.58
Christopher Santos
my

39:20.61
Linz
I thought you were rich when you had the Twin Peaks dvd set. Yeah.

39:24.02
Christopher Santos
God.

39:27.28
Christopher Santos
Yeah, well.

39:30.59
Christopher Santos
Yeah.

39:32.32
Michael
Allegedly.

39:33.03
Christopher Santos
i I wouldn't say rich. Culturally rich, perhaps.

39:37.94
Linz
You're funny.

39:39.55
Christopher Santos
Yeah, Barney.

39:41.84
Linz
Okay. So, he calls on himself. yeah Then what?

39:47.93
Michael
Allegedly.

39:49.16
Linz
Allegedly.

39:49.20
Christopher Santos
Then he he gets swatted.

39:51.72
Linz
Allegedly.

39:53.50
Michael
Not allegedly. He does get rated. it it is documented on the the news program as well.

39:57.98
Christopher Santos
Thank you.

39:58.30
Michael
So that did happen. But as you pointed out, you can't necessarily connect it there. But James Fox definitely makes makes the call that that's where that's that must have been what happened to the original footage, because as soon as that happened, Chuck Clark said he didn't have it anymore.

40:21.06
Linz
James Fox UFO. Oh, I'm looking at him. I'm looking at him.

40:24.74
Michael
I'm looking at him.

40:26.50
Linz
Oh.

40:27.20
Christopher Santos
Looking right over whites of his eyes. James.

40:29.70
Linz
I am. Chris, Google him.

40:33.58
Christopher Santos
Jamie.

40:34.86
Linz
You've got to type James Fox UFO if you want him to come up.

40:34.91
Christopher Santos
Jamie Foxx. ja and that was i here with jamie foxer James

40:38.66
Michael
I'm googling him. I was gonna say I'm googling him right now.

40:40.51
Christopher Santos
ufo

40:42.36
Michael
He's a very good looking black man.

40:44.42
Christopher Santos
yeah

40:44.76
Michael
Seems he's a very funny comedian, Oscar winning actor, and a musician. Wow.

40:50.95
Linz
so the true story of Travis Walton. Yes, yes. There's some things I have seen here.

40:56.74
Michael
Yeah, if you're into the subject at all, you've you've definitely seen one of his films. He's done quite a bit.

41:00.72
Christopher Santos
yeah he he does look the type though to be said i have seen the footage i have seen it by god

41:01.14
Linz
Yeah, they're all on aliens.

41:11.30
Michael
my favorite part My favorite part about his descriptions, when he when he's describing this footage, you can tell that he thinks no one's ever going to see it. Because he's like, I'm watching this footage, and the people in the truck are screaming. They're terrified. And then you see the footage, and there's just like whispers, it's up there.

41:30.12
Michael
no

41:31.76
Linz
See?

41:31.91
Michael
But you know it could be if he hadn't seen it in years, and then he keeps telling the story, and then it you know how memory goes,

41:33.26
Linz
Embellishments already.

41:39.86
Linz
Unreliable witness. That's all I'm hearing, Michael.

41:41.68
Michael
Exactly, yeah. we are

41:43.60
Linz
Unreliable, exaggerating, dramatizing.

41:49.14
Michael
i would I would be a terrible witness. I was thinking about that because Bob Lazar is doing this all these interviews now, which is pretty rare for him because of this documentary.

41:53.93
Linz
We all are, apparently.

42:02.05
Michael
And you know he's getting asked questions about things that happened 40 years ago. And he's like, well, I'm trying to remember, but it's just so foggy, you know?

42:13.82
Michael
And I'm just like, yeah, no shit. If someone was interrogating me about stuff that happened like decades ago, i wouldn't be able to tell you as much as he did. So hopefully I never come across anything top secret that I need to whistleblow because I'll be like, I don't know, guys.

42:22.38
Linz
Yeah.

42:29.26
Michael
I haven't slept in weeks. I had the shingles. Yeah.

42:33.24
Linz
But I know it happened in 1995, it must be true.

42:39.47
Michael
Can I just say my favorite part of Bob Lazar is if you watch Sherman and Peabody, Bob Lazar looks exactly like the dog in that cartoon. It's amazing.

42:48.98
Linz
You just say a lot of, make a lot of references and I'm just sitting here going, the pee what now?

42:54.90
Michael
The P what

42:55.88
Linz
don't know what you're talking about.

42:57.05
Christopher Santos
it's It's like when our Atlantic listeners just listen to us, Linz, and we're like, we're like, Oi, oi, fucking, no, no, Brucey Bonus, Noel Edmunds House Party, Mr.

43:00.53
Linz
Yeah, and and you're like, it's a Brucey bonus. Oi oi!

43:06.88
Christopher Santos
Blobby.

43:09.34
Michael
Yeah, Mr.

43:09.90
Linz
It is.

43:10.34
Michael
Blobby, I was like, I checked out. I was like, I don't know what's going on. but but

43:15.22
Linz
He googled Mr. Blobby's.

43:17.56
Christopher Santos
have you Have you actually Googled him yet?

43:19.86
Michael
No, I was Googling Peabody and Sherman.

43:20.53
Christopher Santos
Hold hold on. hold on

43:21.53
Linz
Watch it. what Please.

43:22.14
Christopher Santos
Right. just just Just before you do, Mikey, just...

43:23.36
Michael
Oh.

43:25.91
Christopher Santos
Sorry, this episode has gone off the fucking rails.

43:28.12
Linz
i don't care. It's amazing. I love it.

43:29.80
Linz
It's going on main.

43:32.28
Christopher Santos
Right, okay.

43:32.70
Michael
oh

43:33.64
Christopher Santos
So, what do you imagine character named Mr. Blobby to look like?

43:41.32
Michael
there was a cartoon in the 90s called bump in the night and there was a character named mr bumpy and he was the toilet monster and he was basically just like he looked like he was made of like slime or clay so i imagine he's even more blobby than bumpy because mr bumpy was very blobby so if you're mr blobby or maybe he's bumpy i don't know you tell me

44:02.43
Christopher Santos
Okay, well, oh give give me

44:03.18
Linz
to be in the mind of septembrio it's a beautiful thing send me it too chris find a good clip oh you have no it has to be a video

44:05.92
Christopher Santos
give me your live reaction as to Mr.

44:08.40
Michael
Okay, let's see here.

44:08.44
Christopher Santos
Blobby.

44:10.34
Michael
Mr. Blobby. Oh no, you sent it to me. Oh.

44:15.91
Christopher Santos
Well, I want the reaction to the look first and then I'll find a video.

44:20.14
Michael
Why does he look like he's bursting onto the set of Three's Company?

44:24.01
Christopher Santos
Because he kind of is.

44:25.28
Linz
yeah he kind

44:26.28
Michael
Jesus. And you know what? I think I called it. He looks more bumpy than Blobby.

44:32.48
Linz
He looks like he's got shingles.

44:36.96
Linz
And I've just...

44:38.65
Christopher Santos
Right, okay. i I have got no idea what this clip has entailed. I'm going

44:44.83
Linz
Mystery clip. Yeah.

44:45.76
Christopher Santos
Oh my God, that was loud in my ear holes. Right, hold on. I'm going to watch this along with you guys. Is this

44:52.86
Linz
Also, I saw Mr.

44:53.14
Michael
Oh no.

44:54.76
Linz
Blobby in person.

44:55.41
Christopher Santos
the perfect?

44:56.22
Michael
Mr.

44:56.32
Linz
mr Mr.

44:57.42
Michael
Pervert.

44:57.44
Linz
Perfect. Sorry, I just, you know, back in the days thought he was. Anyway, I saw Mr. Blobby in person in B&Q and I cried.

45:06.84
Christopher Santos
What?

45:08.77
Linz
he did like, he just did a what do you call it?

45:12.32
Christopher Santos
A signing?

45:13.37
Linz
but He wasn't signing. He he was, i don't think, I think he's illiterate.

45:15.13
Christopher Santos
a personal appearance?

45:16.73
Linz
Yeah, a personal appearance at B&Q.

45:18.19
Christopher Santos
He's illegitimate.

45:20.69
Linz
Illiterate. and Shut up. Anyway, he was at B&Q. And yeah, I cried. It was scary.

45:27.26
Christopher Santos
Oh right, not because you were so touched with fact that you got to meet him.

45:29.76
Linz
No, no. No, I was concerned.

45:31.10
Christopher Santos
Okay.

45:32.14
Michael
That's what I assumed too.

45:32.16
Christopher Santos
Right.

45:33.14
Michael
Okay,

45:33.28
Christopher Santos
does Does everybody have the video open?

45:35.81
Linz
Yes.

45:36.61
Michael
we're gonna watch this together.

45:37.31
Christopher Santos
Okay, let's let's play this in 3, 2, 1. to one And live commentary, please. Septembrio.

45:44.90
Michael
he's carrying a sink with him. or some Is that a sink? It is a sink, okay.

45:50.53
Linz
Yeah. Describe him too.

45:52.32
Michael
He's putting it in a suitcase. Well, he's clearly overweight. He's got dia diabetic sores all over his body. Oh, he's drunk. He's falling over.

46:03.68
Michael
There's a a man who looks human. Who is... Is that Richard Branson? Who is that?

46:09.45
Christopher Santos
it

46:09.56
Linz
It looks like him, yeah.

46:10.28
Michael
Oh, no, it's not.

46:10.79
Christopher Santos
it does

46:11.32
Michael
Okay.

46:11.71
Linz
It's Noel something.

46:11.72
Christopher Santos
i always thought I always thought Noel Edmonds looked like either like the love child of Richard Branson of a million dollar man.

46:17.77
Linz
Yeah.

46:19.56
Michael
God, his eyes are terrifying. Oh, my God. That's a sleep paralysis demon for sure.

46:27.01
Linz
Oh my god, it's been such a long time.

46:27.75
Michael
Well, after reviewing...

46:29.00
Christopher Santos
Was Noel Edmonds just doing a Heil Hitler?

46:29.39
Linz
think so. i think so

46:33.35
Michael
No, he has autism. It's it's okay.

46:36.71
Linz
oh oh

46:37.35
Michael
oh admit Oh, he fell. He fell on the stairs into a window. Okay, so, oh, he's got a temper. Wow.

46:45.64
Christopher Santos
So Mikey just for context, this was prime time Saturday viewing. This was like the most coveted television slot that one could have.

46:55.94
Christopher Santos
It was on the network that literally everybody has, BBC.

47:01.38
Michael
So, but we're talking Saturday morning, right? Not Saturday night?

47:04.04
Christopher Santos
no No, no, no, no, no Saturday night.

47:06.60
Michael
This was for adults or for kids?

47:08.20
Christopher Santos
This was for adults.

47:09.93
Linz
Everybody.

47:10.98
Michael
What?

47:11.85
Linz
a comment a comment just showed up and it says, as an American, the more I learn about Mr.

47:12.55
Christopher Santos
Yeah.

47:16.45
Linz
Blobby, the more confused I am.

47:19.95
Michael
Oh my god.

47:21.00
Christopher Santos
So this lens was on about like 7 o'clock, I guess.

47:21.19
Michael
Well,

47:24.84
Christopher Santos
it was The TV show was called Noel's House Party. And it was like a it was kind of kind of like a bit of a variety type of thing.

47:27.77
Linz
Yes, that's what it was called.

47:32.64
Christopher Santos
They'd have like different segments.

47:32.92
Linz
i barely remember it, though, to be honest. Yeah, I can remember very little.

47:37.78
Michael
Okay, so after reviewing both the video at the start of this podcast and this video now, I can say that both videos are 100% legit.

47:38.07
Christopher Santos
Yeah.

47:47.09
Michael
Mr. Blobby is real.

47:47.56
Linz
They're both blobs.

47:48.37
Michael
He probably came from the ship in the first video, and that would explain why nobody's talking about it. It's it's terrifying.

47:57.17
Linz
I believe they are connected. And I think Logan Paul may not be aware of Mr. Blobby.

48:03.89
Michael
Jake Paul's going to fight him.

48:05.48
Christopher Santos
Yep, that's it.

48:07.54
Linz
Get his brother. Yeah. So where were we?

48:12.38
Michael
Pretty much wrapping it up, I have no other evidence to present, which is frustrating. I was really hoping to find...

48:17.52
Christopher Santos
Do you have any evidence?

48:19.58
Michael
i do have a i do have a picture of a cup of water, if that helps.

48:20.72
Linz
That's so bitchy.

48:25.60
Christopher Santos
Oh, yes.

48:26.21
Michael
if

48:26.66
Christopher Santos
o

48:27.94
Linz
That was a deep cut to my episode.

48:28.20
Michael
yeah

48:28.38
Christopher Santos
yes

48:29.52
Michael
Deep cut.

48:33.50
Linz
Oh God, that episode was great, wasn't it?

48:36.36
Michael
Unlike this one. no no

48:39.86
Linz
What are you doing? That scared me.

48:41.92
Christopher Santos
Your mustache is twirling, sir.

48:43.72
Michael
Is that how Mr. Blobby laughs? I had it with the sound off, so I don't even know.

48:47.50
Linz
Chris. Oh, what? Chris to his voice.

48:51.24
Christopher Santos
who Who's? Mr. Blobby's?

48:52.33
Linz
Mr. Blobby. Yeah. Of course you can.

48:53.56
Christopher Santos
I can't do Mr. Blobby's voice, man.

48:55.69
Michael
i thought

48:56.12
Christopher Santos
He's like a...

48:56.48
Michael
When you first started talking...

48:59.63
Linz
is. That was it. I think he said Blobby, Blobby, Blobby as well.

49:05.54
Michael
So he's like a Pokemon.

49:06.06
Linz
Yeah.

49:06.92
Michael
He just says his name? or

49:08.54
Linz
Oh my gosh, he could be.

49:09.96
Christopher Santos
Yeah, he's he's like Mewtwo.

49:10.21
Michael
Blobby, Blobby, Blobby.

49:10.12
Linz
Come to think of it.

49:14.50
Linz
No, he's more at mr mame like but like.

49:16.46
Christopher Santos
He's like Mr. Mine, but like Mewtwo, like grown in a lab.

49:19.78
Linz
Yeah, he's like a Giovanni mutation experiment.

49:20.66
Michael
I don't

49:24.70
Michael
know. Mewtwo? More like mu negative seven. What's wrong with him? I don't know. it's a

49:29.86
Linz
Mikey.

49:32.65
Michael
He sounds as terrifying as he looks, by the way, just based on Chris's impression.

49:35.52
Linz
Yes. But not as scary as Logan Paul. All the things Logan Paul has done.

49:40.74
Michael
Yes.

49:43.42
Linz
This is up there. You know, I'm really surprised that I didn't hear about that. Because I've literally heard everything else about the Paul brothers. Ever. But I've never heard about this.

49:52.68
Michael
And I've heard nothing else but this.

49:55.27
Linz
Isn't that weird? Like, I swear, that should have, like... Because I watch a lot of YouTube. And I hadn't seen this. That's really... but I guess you went on podcasts, you said, though, so...

50:06.46
Linz
I wonder why he's trying to infiltrate the the Tom Delonge grind. Like, doesn't he know that that territory is already claimed?

50:15.69
Christopher Santos
I don't know, man. I think Tom DeLonge's kind of giving it up a bit now, man. like

50:19.16
Linz
Yeah, you don't hear from him much, do you?

50:20.86
Christopher Santos
No, like I think he's rejoined Blink.

50:21.08
Linz
Like, he was... Yeah.

50:23.15
Christopher Santos
like And he just turned to the Stars Academy, as we found out in that episode, into basically a basically just a merch store.

50:32.04
Christopher Santos
It was supposed to be that like trifecta, three-pronged business idea of a new band,

50:33.12
Linz
Yeah.

50:42.52
Christopher Santos
merchandise slash storytelling and UFO exposure.

50:46.88
Linz
Even after the episode, we still don't know what To The Stars Academy is.

50:49.40
Christopher Santos
I still don't know what it is.

50:50.52
Linz
it still don't understand what it was meant to be.

50:51.68
Christopher Santos
I have a fucking t-shirt and I still don't know what it is.

50:55.38
Linz
Do you have one?

50:56.19
Christopher Santos
Yes.

50:56.42
Linz
I'm jealous.

50:57.58
Linz
I'm so jealous. But I honestly think like he was just promoting the new band. I think he was trying to do like a Jared Way thing.

51:05.67
Christopher Santos
I think those there's part of that to it, but I i mean...

51:05.80
Linz
You know, the.

51:09.48
Christopher Santos
he He really does seem to believe in all of that stuff. And he's talking about like meeting people at you know meeting like people in in in car parks at 2 a.m.

51:21.10
Christopher Santos
to get given dossiers of footage and stuff. And it's like, okay. And then Mark Hoppus, as we found out, Viva Day, September, oh when you messaged me. He's been having his own dalliances in in the military operations USA.

51:34.65
Linz
Wait, has he?

51:35.61
Michael
Please share that story with us.

51:35.56
Linz
What?

51:37.90
Christopher Santos
Yeah, so so basically, Mark Hoppus, his dad was really high up in the US military.

51:46.65
Linz
What?

51:46.68
Christopher Santos
And he was like, i don't quote me on this. this is This is from memory and being put on the spot here. But he was like he grew up on army bases. And he was like and like an army brat.

51:57.50
Linz
Right.

51:58.46
Christopher Santos
So as a result, much like my grandfather was a lawyer, so I know loads about law, he knows loads about the whole like military like kind of strategy stuff. And he was saying, remind me, Mikey, what he was saying? it was like he was saying that he called up the military during the attacks on Saddam Hussein's Iran.

52:24.26
Michael
Well, he didn't call them up. Somehow they were at the same event and he just approached this like general or somebody, somebody really high up.

52:29.50
Christopher Santos
Yeah, yeah.

52:30.66
Michael
He was like, Hey, I got an idea.

52:30.66
Christopher Santos
And was just like,

52:32.34
Michael
If you want to capture down who's saying, huh?

52:34.94
Christopher Santos
yeah.

52:35.27
Michael
He just kind of gave him this plan.

52:35.90
Christopher Santos
It's like, tune all your drones to this frequency because he's putting out these like, he's putting out these announcements and you can't find him. But when he puts one out, you get on that frequency, you can triangulate him. And anyway, yeah, he's dead now.

52:50.34
Michael
Yeah, and he was saying, like, he, and like, it was, like, weeks after describing this plan, they caught him. was like...

52:57.29
Christopher Santos
yeah

53:00.46
Linz
Why don't you send me this? I feel so left out and betrayed.

53:03.18
Michael
Oh.

53:04.68
Linz
Hold on. Mark Hoppus. Sergeant Hoppus kills Saddam.

53:13.30
Michael
Search in office.

53:14.98
Linz
Claim to help capture Saddam.

53:14.96
Christopher Santos
They've deployed Markoffers into the war zone.

53:19.40
Linz
That's Sergeant Hoppus to you, Chris. Oh my god. Oh yeah, he apparently he wrote about it in his memoir a year ago.

53:23.90
Christopher Santos
Damn it.

53:27.22
Linz
Oh my gosh. i'm going to look into that after this for sure.

53:32.90
Christopher Santos
Well hey, why not?

53:34.04
Michael
So yeah, all the members of Blink-182 are clearly industry plants from the government who are...

53:40.26
Linz
Yeah, Travis is a weird one.

53:42.98
Michael
dating Kardashians? don't know.

53:45.62
Linz
He's always been a... Like, he's been on reality.

53:47.27
Christopher Santos
Travis shot JFK.

53:48.14
Linz
hasn't, that's true.

53:52.12
Christopher Santos
He's never he's never denied it.

53:52.33
Michael
Using the... Exactly.

53:54.60
Linz
and that's true

53:55.40
Christopher Santos
And according to what we've heard today, that is evidence enough.

53:59.12
Michael
Exactly.

53:59.04
Linz
Definitely. I've got a very blurry video of a man with a mohawk near the scene of the crime.

54:03.30
Christopher Santos
the second The second shooter on the grassy knoll could have had a note i could have had a a mohawk.

54:10.81
Linz
fuck.

54:13.56
Christopher Santos
So, anywho, so, Septembero, is there anything else you'd like to add to this store before story before we wrap things up?

54:13.80
Linz
Well...

54:21.52
Michael
just Just the fact that I unveiled all this very sensitive information, I feel the need to say that I am in no way suicidal, so no one come for me because I just leaked a bunch of very sensitive information.

54:35.56
Michael
Yeah, and that's about it.

54:36.76
Linz
so also also michael i i feel like we

54:37.13
Michael
Oh, check out my music. although Although if you listen to it, you'll think I'm suicidal, but I promise I'm okay.

54:39.80
Christopher Santos
Oh, absolutely do.

54:45.69
Linz
but like i do feel like we may have bullied michael a bit because i feel like he he did but he believed at the beginning and we were like you have to be bullied it's the british way yeah

54:45.69
Christopher Santos
You'll feel

54:53.24
Michael
Yeah.

54:55.75
Christopher Santos
I feel Michael's but but part of the gang now and kind of has to take the...

54:56.44
Michael
but

55:00.92
Michael
No, to recap my position on the footage, I think the footage is interesting because of the of when it was filmed, but very I'm not sold because it's not the best quality.

55:01.40
Christopher Santos
Yeah.

55:15.11
Michael
There's nothing definitive about it, and I am extremely disappointed in the very loose timeline where I can't definitively say that it was made in the 90s the earliest that i could say that it was made for sure is 2022 when that's the first uh time that somebody publicly talked about it so given that timeline it's kind of you know i dismiss it but if it's from the 90s uh it holds more weight that's my position on it

55:45.64
Linz
I feel like you had a lot more gusto at the beginning and we slowly ground you down.

55:45.66
Christopher Santos
Oh.

55:49.98
Michael
maybe Maybe what it is, it's like, you know you know, when you hear about a movie and it's like you just hear that it's absolute garbage and then you watch it and because you go in with such low expectations, you end up enjoying it more than you thought.

56:04.04
Michael
I think what happened was I heard Logan Paul has UFO footage and then I was extremely surprised that it wasn't just him lying about everything and that there was actually a history to this footage. So that could have been it.

56:16.74
Christopher Santos
Yeah, I mean, it's a cool angle with the whole Logan Paul thing.

56:17.85
Linz
Thank you.

56:19.88
Christopher Santos
I think the footage on its own is unfortunately a little bit unremarkable. However, the the whole

56:31.52
Christopher Santos
the whole like narrative of these influencers getting involved, these big personalities, is is is is a pretty cool thing to take with it there. But I think with all of these footage, it's like the you know that whole like release for Schneider cut of Watchmen or whatever it was. Was it Watchmen? Was that the one?

56:48.36
Michael
Or Batman v Superman.

56:50.12
Christopher Santos
Oh, I don't know.

56:50.46
Michael
Yeah.

56:50.96
Christopher Santos
Whichever one it was. But it's like the you the most amazing thing to your mind is something that you can't see.

56:57.88
Michael
Yeah, that's exactly it.

56:58.31
Christopher Santos
Once you see it, you're like, oh, it's an orange blob and apparently part of a car.

57:07.78
Linz
I just love the story though of of him stealing it with a button cam like just that alone hilarious to me and I still don't quite understand how it all came to be

57:08.12
Christopher Santos
Oh.

57:13.31
Michael
Yeah.

57:24.08
Linz
I just like that Logan Paul was involved. And then linking his his Toy Story hat from the suicide forest. That is just gold.

57:30.66
Christopher Santos
it's it's a it's a pretty shitty thing to do to steal that footage I get that he went there and tried to buy it first but that doesn't really swing it for me but then again that's like so totally on brand for him so

57:44.04
Michael
Exactly, yeah.

57:43.98
Linz
Exactly.

57:45.04
Michael
He's a bad person.

57:45.06
Linz
That's what I was going to say.

57:46.36
Michael
So there you go.

57:46.50
Linz
yeah a bad person with a great UFO video now though, Michael.

57:51.34
Michael
The silver lining is maybe when we do make contact with aliens, we'll meet as many good aliens as there are bad people, and the universe will balance out. So here's hoping, guys.

58:02.88
Linz
I feel like they'll just nuke us and keep the Paul brothers for some reason.

58:08.58
Linz
They're like, they have excelled. Yes, perfect. Okay.

58:11.17
Christopher Santos
I thought you were saying they have Excel.

58:16.04
Linz
okay

58:16.46
Christopher Santos
Okay. So thank you very much, Septembrio, for presenting us with this wonderful piece of footage today. And it's been great to to kind of go through this together.

58:30.11
Christopher Santos
So thank you very much for presenting it.

58:31.86
Michael
For sure. Thanks for having me.

58:33.56
Christopher Santos
Linz, do you have any closing thoughts on this?

58:36.46
Linz
No, I'm just probably going to watch that footage three more times until I can identify where the van parts are. Because I still don't know what I'm looking at.

58:46.75
Christopher Santos
I saw some van parts, but I know me some vans.

58:49.94
Linz
Yeah, I like the shoes probably. and That's as far as that goes.

58:52.69
Christopher Santos
Yeah.

58:54.90
Linz
But yeah, no, it was really fun.

58:55.06
Christopher Santos
you

58:57.78
Linz
And I think we had a lot of good and splinter conversations from it. Mr. Blobby got mentioned. That's always good. And I'm really hoping this is going on main Christmas.

59:05.65
Christopher Santos
Oh, hell yeah, this is going on, man.

59:06.71
Linz
Oh, hell yes.

59:07.54
Christopher Santos
Oh, hell yeah.

59:07.71
Linz
This has been really fun. I'd love to do another chatty episode with the three of us again. That's really fun.

59:12.74
Michael
Totally.

59:13.71
Linz
Yeah.

59:14.88
Christopher Santos
100% we'll do these more often it's it's always nice to have a three man booth yeah I think it's it's nice it feels it feels a little bit more conversational when we do it this way

59:23.88
Linz
Yeah. I mean, I'm sure we've interrupted the shit out of each other throughout this, but sorry, listeners, you're just gonna have to deal with it. We get a bit of a lag, so sometimes we just talk before we realize someone else has already started something. But yeah, it's been really fun. Thank you so much, Mikey.

59:40.36
Michael
Thank you guys for having me.

59:42.74
Linz
Yeah, yeah.

59:43.61
Christopher Santos
Wonderful. So thank you very much, everybody. And thank you for listening out there. But until next time, keep watching the Canadian skies.

59:55.67
Michael
Yeah.

59:55.98
Linz
Bye.