Get ready to tee off with us as we countdown to the much-anticipated PGA Tour. Our special guests, golfers Lilia Vu and Joel Dahmen, are gearing up for the Grant Thornton Invitational. Here's a sneak peek into their camaraderie - Joel can't stop praising Lillio's putting skills and Lilia is eager to learn from Joel's gameplay. Despite limited preparation, they appear undeterred, confident in their abilities to sink birdies.
Round two of our countdown brings the phenomenal LPGA winner Nelly Korda and PGA Tour winner Tony Finau into the spotlight. As they also prepare for the Grand Thornton Invitational, they share their course insights and discuss the challenges they anticipate. And get this, they're playing under the team name "Vutang Clan" - an amusing nod to their competitiveness. Listen in as they talk about using Masterclass, a platform that connects experts and learners, to further hone their skills.
In the final segment, we engage in an enlightening discussion about the future of golf with Korda and Finau. They discuss their recent preparations, their shared love for sports and family and their ambassadorship for Grant Thornton. The conversation also dives into the ever-increasing prize money in the LPGA and the recent rollback of the golf ball. As they express their excitement about being part of the event, they view it as a significant step forward for the sport. So, grab your headphones and settle in for an enriching episode that looks at golf's present and future through the eyes of its stars.
Get ready to tee off with us as we countdown to the much-anticipated PGA Tour. Our special guests, golfers Lilia Vu and Joel Dahmen, are gearing up for the Grant Thornton Invitational. Here's a sneak peek into their camaraderie - Joel can't stop praising Lillio's putting skills and Lilia is eager to learn from Joel's gameplay. Despite limited preparation, they appear undeterred, confident in their abilities to sink birdies.
Round two of our countdown brings the phenomenal LPGA winner Nelly Korda and PGA Tour winner Tony Finau into the spotlight. As they also prepare for the Grand Thornton Invitational, they share their course insights and discuss the challenges they anticipate. And get this, they're playing under the team name "Vutang Clan" - an amusing nod to their competitiveness. Listen in as they talk about using Masterclass, a platform that connects experts and learners, to further hone their skills.
In the final segment, we engage in an enlightening discussion about the future of golf with Korda and Finau. They discuss their recent preparations, their shared love for sports and family and their ambassadorship for Grant Thornton. The conversation also dives into the ever-increasing prize money in the LPGA and the recent rollback of the golf ball. As they express their excitement about being part of the event, they view it as a significant step forward for the sport. So, grab your headphones and settle in for an enriching episode that looks at golf's present and future through the eyes of its stars.
This is PGA Tour Countdown Music. Welcome everybody. Frank Bassett, joining you for this week's PGA Tour Countdown from Tiberon Golf Club in Naples, florida. The architect of this course this week, by the way, is Greg Norman. How appropriate with everything that's going on right now in golf.
Speaker 1:The Grant Thornton Invitational is what I'm talking about and it's going to be a lot of fun. We're going to hear from Nellie Cordo and Tony Fiennell, we're going to hear from Lillio Vue and Joel Domen and maybe a surprise additional interview, if we can get that in this afternoon. But I wanted to get this out to you because, again, there's a lot going on. John Rom is breaking news, breaking news, breaking news. John Rom may be going to live golf. Well, he's probably going to live golf and we're probably going to hear about that very shortly. I mean very shortly, either today, thursday or Friday. But with that being said, I want to move on to the interviews. This is a fun tournament. It brings together the best of the LPG and best of the PGA tours. And again, grant Thornton Invitational, tiberon Golf Club in Naples, florida. Let's get to the interviews and we'll wrap this thing up after we finish.
Speaker 2:Alright, thank you everyone. Welcome back inside the media center here at the Grant Thornton Invitational. I'm pleased to be joined by the team of Lillio Vue and Joel Domen. I'll start with you. What has it been like? I know we've just been here from the CME Group Tour Championship, but what is it like being prepared and excited for an event like this and playing with Joel?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've been looking forward to this tournament all year and to be Joel's partner. I'm very excited to play and I think we're going to have a good time this week.
Speaker 2:Joel, what are some of the most exciting parts of Lillio's game that you're excited to compete with?
Speaker 4:Her putting. I'm not the greatest putter in history. I'm getting better and I got better a lot today, but I didn't play a lot. I hit a lot of greens and then to watch her make all the putts is going to be really fun. I'm just going to be celebrating on the side and she's rolling out all the putts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 4:I love that.
Speaker 2:Lillio, what's it been like to get ready for an event like this? This is unlike anything we have on the LPGA Tour. But what were some of the things that you're most excited about? You know, looking at Joel's game as you head into this weekend.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I'm super grateful to be here and for this tournament to actually happen and to play alongside the men and I've heard that you're really good off the tee, so that's better than me for that but I'm really excited to be here, super nervous and will be quite honest, but yeah.
Speaker 4:But is there to be nervous about? It's the off season.
Speaker 3:I know, but I want to do more.
Speaker 4:We're just goofing off and we're going to beat most players here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're right, I'm going to need that a lot.
Speaker 2:Joel, have you been able to watch Lillio over the last couple of months and weeks as she's ascended to the height that she has?
Speaker 4:I have. I had a kid this last year so I've had a lot more time on the couch than usual and I've always followed the LPGA game a little bit. I'm not going to say I'm a massive fan, but between social media and all this stuff, yeah. And then I remember with the British Open this summer, watching her finish that one off and run away with it was very impressive. And to watch her win again what three weeks ago here in Florida at the Onica. So she hasn't cooled off one bit, but I heard that was playing with her. I was very excited. Started following on Instagram recently and lacking there, I will say, on your Instagram game.
Speaker 4:So we'll try to pick it up a little bit this week for you, but I was just super excited. Anytime you can play with with the best is super special. I'm looking forward to you know, maybe you can teach me a thing or two.
Speaker 3:Yeah, same for me.
Speaker 2:I would love to open it up to questions here. We'll go first here down in front with Amy.
Speaker 5:You two were both gushing about each other on social media when you found out you would be paired together. What has it been like now, getting to meet and get to know each other in person?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean we just met each other last night, but I think we got off to a good start, felt like we've been friends before. It's pretty easy yeah.
Speaker 4:Our caddies are good friends. I've known each other for a while and that's kind of helped this partnership along. We've been in a group text for about what a month-ish Once again a lack of texting from someone, but she's been busy winning better in person, trust me. That's what I've heard. So I think we're having a great time this week and just Kind of feed off each other. But this is all just kind of gravy on the plate at the end of the year and I think we're just gonna have a really fun time this week has there been any strategizing yet of how you're going to approach the different rounds.
Speaker 3:I think just making as many birdies as we can, honestly.
Speaker 4:That's great strategy. Yeah, I was discussing with Gino Dan, like I haven't seen the golf course you played here recently, the alternate shot a lot of times on the tour. We have all the data and all the analytics to figure out what we're doing and what holds to play and who's staying off, and I kind of laugh like I don't know anything. So whatever she says goes and I'm gonna hang on for dear life.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I just listened to my caddy, so whatever he says, I do too, and then I yell at him when he's wrong.
Speaker 2:There. All right, we'll go over here to Tom.
Speaker 6:So You're, joel. This is for both you, but you're playing with the number one woman in the world and yet it seems the betting favorite seems to be Tony and Nelly. Are you aware of why that is? So? I am, I want to get your. Are you guys okay with that?
Speaker 4:That's yeah, I'm a hundred and fiftieth in the world. I've made like four cuts this year. There's a reason for this, but I'm hoping not to be the weakest link in the group. But if I'm even not, if I can play somewhat, okay, we're gonna be just fine this week. I just can't screw everything up.
Speaker 3:I don't think we have like any less of a chance of winning, though that's what you're asking.
Speaker 4:We're coming in with Our teams that have more fun than everyone else. I think that's. That's the number one thing.
Speaker 7:Sir Joel, when the announcement was made, you tweeted almost immediately. Said my partner's currently the best player in the world. How cool is it for you just to get to tee it up alongside the number one player in the LPGA this week?
Speaker 4:It's awesome. I mean, if anytime on to where I get to play with you know you can name one of those top 10 players Rory or Rom or Scotty or Hovlin like it's a big deal for me and it's really cool. But now I get to play with the best, what you know. She's the best. I think she's the hottest player in the world right now. Doesn't matter what to her it is. So I'm just excited for that and kind of just get a hang on, like I said, and stay out of the way, but Some high fives along the way.
Speaker 7:And for either of you. The joke was should we start coordinating outfits for the week? Pink is lilies power color. How much pink are we gonna see? Are there coordinating outfits yet?
Speaker 4:I accidentally didn't bring any pink, but he said he did, I did, I was like I was packing at 4 am To get here and I found there's Throwing a pink shirt. Real quick she said she didn't bring any pink.
Speaker 3:But my bags pink enough for the rest of the field okay.
Speaker 4:I mean, I think I'm pretty neutral. She's sounds like you're neutral. This week We'll be able to figure something out. I won't be perfect, but it'll be close.
Speaker 7:Yeah, and Lilia, for you Just to have this event. I mean, what does it mean? For you know, I'm obviously both tours to have this kind of an event where the LPG and PJ are finally coming together after so many years.
Speaker 3:It means a lot and we've been kind of wanting this type of tournament for a long time. I think Amanda said last night like first time in 30 years that this is happening. So it's a really big deal for us to actually be on a stage to showcase both women's and men's golf together at the highest level. So it's an honor to be here and showcase that.
Speaker 8:Just kind of wondering. Obviously, with tour schedules, joe you mentioned, it's really tough to get out to events. What are you looking forward to seeing from the women's game? Obviously you've got a great teammate, but broader sense, what are you looking forward to seeing this week? And same to you, lilia I.
Speaker 4:Heard a rumor yesterday that there was a lot of players practicing yesterday and not one of them was a male golfer. So they put in a lot of work and I'm excited. You know it's like all aspects of their game. I think Nelly and Lexi have played here in years past. Lexi played in Vegas this year and played awesome, almost made the cut there so to be up close and personal to it. But it also matters for me, like I mean, my paycheck depends on you this week, so like this is, it's gonna be really fun. I just started sweating. I mean, she's won four times this year. I haven't won four times since I was like 12, so To watch her, you know, kind of handle everything that that comes out of this week is gonna be awesome, yeah, and I think it's gonna be really fun not only learning from Joel, but also playing with other players in the field too, because they also have men as partners.
Speaker 3:So I think that's gonna be really fun for all of us and just interesting to see how they go through their process of before the shot and everything in between that and then looking back on your year obviously an incredible breakthrough year.
Speaker 8:Just wondering does anything stick out? What's your favorite man, what's your favorite memory? What's kind of sticking with you as you move forward?
Speaker 4:That was my question for walking down the first fairway, so I Think for me.
Speaker 3:I just keep thinking about my open win. I think because my my gift to myself after the open win was my cat and I had just left home the other day and it really broke my heart to come to this event. But I'm super excited to be here and I'm pumped about anyways can't wait to hear more about the cat this week.
Speaker 4:I'll talk about my kid. You talk about your cat.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's the same thing. Yeah, same same.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Good old wultin. Any other questions from here? I Think, before we wrap it up, I just want to know we were talking a little bit out there about the course itself. Kind of want to know from both of you, as you've seen this course. Obviously, lillia, you just saw this quote course. But, joel, what are your thoughts on just everything?
Speaker 4:This is my first Off-season event. I don't want to call it, you just call it silly season. It's definitely not a silly event, but I thought it was me way easier. I was expecting like wide fairways and wedges and a bunch of birdies, and I didn't see them out there today. So, especially with the wind blowing, I think that first what one through, four or five is very difficult. The part fives aren't exactly easy. The par threes are long, so I it's a real golf course. This will be a real test this week and it's a real competition. When that tee goes in the ground on Friday, I think we're all going to be ready. It's all fun and games until Friday morning.
Speaker 3:William, yeah, I mean just played here two weeks ago. The course conditions were just wet and everything was playing a little long but greens were soft. And then I came here yesterday right off the bat, from our fairways, from our greens, so definitely different. I feel like I had to pay attention a little more during today's round, so definitely not going to be easy.
Speaker 2:All right, and just one more from Emily.
Speaker 7:Sorry, I just wanted to know if you guys had thought at all or discussed a team name or a team motto for the week.
Speaker 3:Our group chat is named Vutang Clan, but that wasn't my.
Speaker 4:You're way too young to know anything about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know it's Vutang, but I don't know what it is, so that's cool. It's a great name.
Speaker 4:I think that was your catty right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was cool, so phenomenal name. We are born in the 80s, I believe, but you were born 97. Yeah, wow, oof, I do have gray hair. I didn't know I was that old. So yeah, we're going to listen to some Vutang Clan on our way to the first team and that'll all make sense Is that hip-hop. Yeah, it's the best era in history, yeah.
Speaker 2:Looks like we have some learning to do. Thank you guys for joining us today.
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Speaker 9:All right, let's get underway and welcome our first guest into the interview room here today at the Grand Thornton Invitational. We have eight-time LPGA winner Nelly Quarter and six-time PGA Tour winner Tony Fiennell, who are playing together as a team this week in the championship. And we'll just start. You've both had a chance to look at the golf course. Just first thoughts. I know you've both played here before at this venue in a different event. Nelly, we'll start with you and just give us your thoughts on the golf course.
Speaker 10:Well, I played two weeks ago so it's definitely a little firmer and faster than it was two weeks ago. I know on like Wednesday we they got like four inches of rain, so the greens are faster and, yeah, I think it'll be a good test. It's still a little. It's still a little soft in the fairways, but the greens have definitely sped up.
Speaker 11:Tony, what about you? Yeah, I agree with that. I feel like I got a few mud balls out there, so I do think the fairways are a little soft. I think they will firm out, but it's a good test. You know, I think the golf course is a good one, especially for this format. You know, there's some holes you can score on. There's also holes you can get in trouble on. So I think it's a good combination of for the style of golf that we're playing this week. I think it's a great golf course for this format.
Speaker 9:I guess the next question would be how much of you guys played together and seen each other games. I mean, what sort of experiences do you have?
Speaker 10:Nine holes yesterday.
Speaker 9:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 10:Exactly.
Speaker 11:Played together.
Speaker 10:I mean I've watched Tony on TV for many, many years, but as in playing together just the front nine yesterday, what do you like specifically about Tony's game?
Speaker 9:what do you think will he bring to the team?
Speaker 10:One. I just I love the way how athletic his entire game is. He sees a shot, visualizes it and then hits it, and I love that style of play. There's not much over analyzing which that's. I feel like that's how I play as well, and then, yeah, I can't wait to see all the bombs as well. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 11:Big admirer of Nellie and her game. I've also watched her, you know, over the years more on TV than I've been able to play with her. But after the nine holes yesterday, you know everything that I thought about her game. You know it was even better up close. So a lot of fun to just tee it up with her yesterday and and I'm looking forward to seeing a lot of great shots and, you know, hopefully a lot of birdies and eagles this week.
Speaker 10:They're already making me blush, okay well take some questions.
Speaker 9:If you have a question, just raise your hand and we'll get a microphone to you and we'll start with Tom in the front here. Thank you.
Speaker 6:Just for both of you. Just talk about this format, what it does for golf, how unique it is, and you know how much, how enjoyable it will be for the 32 participants out there.
Speaker 11:You want to go yeah so, yeah, I I think it's. I think it's huge for our game to be able to join the men and women's tours together and to have some of the best players on both tours competing this week I think is a very cool thing, very unique thing for our game, and yesterday I mentioned in an interview, I think, some of the younger generation that is watching this event. I think this event is going to continue to grow. I think there's gonna be a lot of great interest in this, in this event moving forward. But to be involved in the inaugural Grand Thorn Invitational I think is really cool and then to have Nellie as a partner to me is just is gonna be a great bonus.
Speaker 10:So yeah, and I think it'll be. It's gonna be for us really exciting to see how this event does grow every year, as it does bring something new and exciting to the game.
Speaker 9:Take one from Sarah.
Speaker 7:Just a couple for me, for both of you I know, obviously admirers of each other's games, but how do you all really compliment each other? From what you've seen so far, yeah, anybody would compliment Nellie's game.
Speaker 11:She's good at everything. So you know sometimes my game can be a little rough around the edges, so she'll clean up for that. But Nellie's not a hard partner to play with, and then she's got an incredible attitude and she's obviously extremely competitive as well, so she's just getting compliment left.
Speaker 10:I love that I'm just being honest.
Speaker 11:I mean, you know she's been the best player in the women's game for the past few years and being able to just see it up close, even just for nine holes, I can see why. So I think our games compliment each other very well. I hit it.
Speaker 10:I hit it far and straight and very good. I mean the, the nine holes that I did get to play with Tony as well. I mean just incredible how well he hits it. Just the different type of compression hit for sure, the sound and then just, I think, overall the whole dynamic of the game. I think we're gonna compliment each other really well. I mean, I think for us, even the personalities is just gonna flow.
Speaker 7:How much you know with three different formats and obviously both having team play kind of experience in the past. How much strategy do you all put into things? Or you all just kind of play in your own games and then hoping things work out?
Speaker 11:Yeah, I think there. I think there is a little bit of strategy involved this week. Because of the format, I've never played a what are you guys calling it? A modified best ball?
Speaker 11:but modified for ball yeah, we've never done that, and you're gonna have to play the same golf ball from the tee to the finish, you know finishing that hole. So there is a little. There's gonna be have to be a little bit of strategy there involved. She plays a different golf ball than I do. It spins more than the one that I'm playing. So those are some of the things that we kind of tried to figure out yesterday. And then, obviously, in alternate shot, we've both played in big international cups for the US and, and so we've done that before. But you're also gonna have to figure out you know what holes I'm gonna be hitting on compared to the one she's gonna be hitting on. So there there's definitely gonna be strategy, I feel like, involved for for all the teams, and we talked a little bit about that yesterday and hopefully it works out for us.
Speaker 10:I agree.
Speaker 9:Do you think adjusting to the different golf ball will be the most challenging part about the modified for ball, or will it be other parts of strategy that might be more challenging?
Speaker 10:Yeah, I think for him it's going to be mainly like, let's say, driver right spins a little bit more and for me it would be his ball spins less, so for me it would be long irons. I don't want to. If I'm going to be coming in with a low spinning ball with like a five iron, I just know he's going to be chipping long it's like you want to chip shorter.
Speaker 11:You want to chip shorter? Yeah, so they'll definitely be some adjusting. But you know, we're both gonna gonna just have to adapt, but everybody else is as well. You know, we're not going to be the only ones with this type of challenge. Everybody's going to have to deal with something like that. I think you may. You may find a group that maybe plays a very similar ball, so they're not going to be as challenged, but everybody across the board is going to be challenged with the same thing.
Speaker 9:For sure, take one back of the room.
Speaker 12:So you're both coming sort of to the end of the year but still playing during this offseason, maybe just how you've prepared for this event, and then going forward into next year Tony's of the century and you'll be back down here in Florida for the start of the year. So what your plans are, or what they have been for the last few weeks, and then what they're going to be for the next, into the new year.
Speaker 10:I just kind of took it easy Thanksgiving week and then I started practicing last week and I mean, you played in an event last week and then I'm actually I'm playing also with my dad next week at the PNC. So not that many weeks off before the start of the year, before the LPGA schedule comes along, but yeah, I mean, as in my prep before this week I did take Thanksgiving week off from golf, just needed to decompress after the season and started up practice last week.
Speaker 11:Yeah, I played last week at the hero. That was my first start since August, so I actually took a few months off and just hung out with the family. I did a lot of training so my body's in good shape just to get ready for the the new PJ Tour season in January. But this was a tournament that I've, that I knew I was going to play and that I've been looking forward to. But I would say my preparation was more so. Getting a rep in last week, you know to kind of prepare for this week and luckily, you know, I played pretty nicely last week, not too much rust, and have a good idea of where the game is at, just having played four competitive rounds last week.
Speaker 5:So hey guys, can you tell me how this partnership came about and what was your reaction when you found out you would be playing together?
Speaker 11:Yeah, yeah we got this one yesterday. So we both signed with Grant Thornton earlier this year. So I think we're both very proud ambassadors of Grant Thornton and it just made sense that, as we signed at the same time and representing Grant Thornton, that this is a Grant Thornton invitation and that we both were just aligned and, I think, more than happy to to tee it up with each other this week. So I think that's it was just kind of an organic thing and happened naturally and we both agreed that we'd love to do it.
Speaker 10:Yeah, and it was a great way to kind of get to know each other too. I mean, I met Tony and I think in at the players in 21, just passing by, and then we got to hang out a little bit at the Masters earlier this year. But yeah, I think organically in our our, our personalities match really well and I think it was a great fit for us.
Speaker 11:Yeah.
Speaker 5:What else do you guys kind of share, talk about, do you have in common, since you kind of gotten to know each other over the last few years?
Speaker 11:I would say the biggest thing is that we both love sports and we come from sports families, you know, obviously. You know, with her brother and sister and just their family in general, they're very competitive and they love sports and I grew up the same way, you know. So I think we have that parallel. And then I, you know, in a sense to me, I look up to Nellie. You know, even though she's younger than me, she's an incredible golfer, she's been the number one player in the world in the women's game and she's someone that I think, quite frankly, a lot of us can still even learn from, you know, even on the men's side. So I'll be looking to pick up a few, a few tips. Yesterday I asked her about chipping. She's an incredible chipper on this Bermuda. So, growing up in Florida, you know, I didn't grow up on Bermuda, so I'm always trying to get little little tips on how to chip around these greens and she's, she's as good as a chipper, as you'll see, on Bermuda, I'm sure, on any type of grass, but especially Bermuda.
Speaker 10:So I already picked up a few things just watching her yesterday and, I think, just the fact that we're both super family oriented too. I was sad to find out that the FINAG crew is not going to be here this week, but the time that we did get to hang out at the Masters earlier this year was so much fun getting to see their whole family dynamic, how close they are, and it's it's really really special to see.
Speaker 9:We'll wrap up right in front of you, nellie.
Speaker 13:You guys have been playing for more and more money on the LPGA but, excuse me, this week you guys are playing for a combined four million dollar purse for you. What do you think that this is going to mean for the LPGA going forward, not just competing on a stage with the PGA tour, but also competing for this high purse level?
Speaker 10:yeah, I think every year, our tours making strides forward with increasing prize money, and obviously there are better and better players out there. If you give us the platform, I feel like we will perform and we will bring it, and they are every year. I think the women's game is constantly getting elevated and getting to play alongside the men. Equal prize money is just another step forward and I think, as Tony said, can't wait to see what, what this event is going to hold in the future and I think that it's exciting to just be part a little small piece of it, but I think it's a great step for our future.
Speaker 9:One last one from Tull.
Speaker 6:Theo, this is four years down the road, but today's news about the rollback of the ball and will affect obviously both of you and your level, just your reactions, each of you. When you heard this we thought it was coming, but now it's kind of officially here.
Speaker 10:I honestly don't have too much knowledge on it. I didn't even kind of hear about it until, obviously, that it was passed, until after my round. So I don't know. I think it's going into effect in 2028, right, and then. So I mean I'll be 30 by then. So I don't know. But yeah, I mean I don't know too much about it to really comment on it as of right now.
Speaker 11:Yeah, I kind of share the same sentiments. I didn't know about it until after I was done playing, and when I did find out it was just a few minutes before I walked in here. So the thing is, we've all known that this could potentially be coming over the last few years. It's been talked about for a very long time whether it's the driver that was going to change or the golf ball. So we've been talking about a rollback for a couple years. So I can't say it's like surprising. But now that it's here, there's a date, it's official and no matter where you stand, we're going to have to deal with it starting in 28.
Speaker 10:Yeah, and you're just going to have to adapt, right? It's all just about adapting. Technology constantly changes and the best players are still going to be the best players. It's just about who's going to adapt the quickest and the easiest, that's right, Just before we wrap up.
Speaker 9:have you guys got a team name or have you heard anybody refer to you as a team?
Speaker 11:Yeah, so our team name is Team Finnelli and Certified Fresh and that comes from Finau Fresh and she's certified Finau Fresh.
Speaker 10:Yeah, I got certified yesterday. I was pretty happy.
Speaker 9:Very good, we appreciate your time and good luck at the ground-thwombing invitation. Thank, you.
Speaker 6:Thank you.
Speaker 1:So there you have it, everybody. You've heard the interviews and let's get right to it. No breaking news yet with John Rom, but we'll give it to you as soon as we get it. It's going to be an exciting couple of days here. You know, with everything going on in golf, we thought it was going to be slow at the end of the year Slow, my goodness. The USGA, of course, and the RNA come out with their golf ball announcement. It's going to occur in 2028, five years from now, and they're just making a huge deal about it. Something's going to change in that. You mark our words and we'll tell you more about that. On Golf Talk America this week also. And well, just a lot of stuff going on. Hey, enjoy the Grant Thornton Invitational. Thanks for listening, everybody and for the Golf Talk America Network and all the folks at PGA Tour Countdown. I'm Frank Bassett saying we'll catch you around the grill.