Feel the raw emotion of victory with Peter Malnati as he secures his second PGA Tour triumph at the Valspar Championship—an achievement teeming with heartfelt jubilation and the sweet relief of dreams realized. I, Frank Bassett, invite you to relive the climactic final moments of the tournament, where Malnati's journey to the top and the gracious sportsmanship of Mackenzie Hughes illuminate the profound spirit of golf. This episode offers a window into the fine line between triumph and second place, as Hughes openly shares his putting game insights and how the capricious wind played a pivotal role on the course that day.
Feel the raw emotion of victory with Peter Malnati as he secures his second PGA Tour triumph at the Valspar Championship—an achievement teeming with heartfelt jubilation and the sweet relief of dreams realized. I, Frank Bassett, invite you to relive the climactic final moments of the tournament, where Malnati's journey to the top and the gracious sportsmanship of Mackenzie Hughes illuminate the profound spirit of golf. This episode offers a window into the fine line between triumph and second place, as Hughes openly shares his putting game insights and how the capricious wind played a pivotal role on the course that day.
This is PGA Tour Countdown, and welcome everyone. Frank Bassett joining you for this week's PGA Tour Countdown Wrap Up of the Valspar. Wow, what a great finish and this week's winner proves that good guys do finish. First that good guy, peter Malnati. What an emotional victory for him and his family there. It was very, very touching.
Speaker 1:And it was just, it was touching, I don't know how else to say it. We want to inform you that we're two weeks away from the Masters. If you didn't know that, we are getting ready and packing up and heading out to move the studios of Golf Talk America and PGA Tour Countdown and our annual shows that we do at the Masters, called Live from Augusta in partnership with PXG and NetSuite and some others. The Azalea Hospitality Group, azalea House will be the home at the Masters for Golf Talk America. But let's back up and go back to the Valspar Championship and hear from Mackenzie Hughes as well as Peter Malnati. So let's roll with it.
Speaker 3:Mack, I'm sure there's disappointment that you didn't get to win this event, but there's a lot of things that you can take away from it. Just how proud are you of this performance and being in the mix and yeah, no, it was a blast.
Speaker 2:I love being in the battle and the fight. And yeah, Peter just played incredible. He deserved to win. He played better than I did, the control was golf ball and on that back nine it kind of flipped there. Early in the back nine I made a couple loose swings and I misjudged a bit of wind on 12 and 13. He played those holes one under and we kind of flip flopped. But he played tremendous and it was impressive to watch.
Speaker 3:Your putting performance this week was either the best or the second best, one of the top two of the week. What do you take from that and going forward, and what are some of the things you might take from the other parts of your game going?
Speaker 2:forward. Yeah, I think that for the last three, four years that's been a strength of my game. I really hadn't putted well this year up to my standards to this point, losing strokes last week of the player. I think I lost three and a half strokes putting up to players. So if I had putted this good last week I would have had a chance to win probably. But it's just amazing, you're still waiting to put it all together, to put all those pieces together. Unfortunately, I just didn't drive it. I drove a great last week and I just didn't quite drive it as well this week. That made it a little bit more difficult With my putting. I kind of went a little more field, a little more no line. I've been kind of using the line a little bit this year and I went no line. I just tried to free it up a little bit and yeah, it felt really good out there. It was nice to see some putts go in and kind of get some confidence back.
Speaker 4:What was your discussion with Julian on 12? Is that a club discussion?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the wind was right to left and it was supposed to be almost dead right to left. We were standing there in the fairway and it kind of almost felt like it was a bit of a hurt. I had an iron in my hand and we were trying to figure out if I could cover it. I had a 166 cover and 173 pin. It almost switched as I was hitting to down off the right. I hit a 9 iron that was working on the wind and it went 12 yards further than I thought it could ever go. It was just really hard to feel the wind in certain spots in the golf course today. There were a few pockets of wind that were different than what the forecast was calling for Around those holes. It makes it really difficult because you have some small targets and some tight areas to hit it into. I was a bit in between clubs and obviously I pulled the wrong one.
Speaker 4:What's the mix between falling just short on a trophy but doing a lot of really good things to get right in that mix?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think for me today. I teed off with the intent that I could hoist the trophy and I was playing well enough to do that. Unfortunately, it didn't happen for me, but you need to keep putting yourself there and have continuous chances for it to happen. There are guys that put themselves there a lot consistently and it's hard to win. I mean Scotty Scheffler last year. Look at the times he was right there. Anyone a couple of times Big tournaments but it's just really hard to win. I played today with the guy who had an incredible day. Peter would have been really hard to beat. Even if I had a couple more great swings down the stretch, he would have been very hard to beat. It was Peter's day and he played fantastic.
Speaker 3:Adam Hadwin had a good finish just ahead of you. What sort of messages did you guys send him to captain Lee early in the season here?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it's early. He knows we're all dying to be on that team, but all we can do is just keep playing, and it's a long way away. I think I know he's watching and I would have loved to have shown him a bit more today and got across the line. I know that a player like that would do some damage in match play.
Speaker 4:Peter had that put on was a 12 when he looked away and thought he had a short and he goes in. When you're playing with a guy like that, do you think you know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, it was kind of funny because on 8 and then 10, there it was almost like I had some of that going. He's probably like I hit it in there close and Mac makes another 40 footer. But yeah, obviously on 12 was a big swing. There I make Bowie, he makes Birdie and obviously he thought he left it short and it trickled in Again. Like I said, I have nothing but great things to say about how he played today. Obviously he's an asset to our tour just in the way he carries himself. So, yeah, just want to be out there with him and he deserved one today.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Thanks, mike, yeah, thank you.
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Speaker 5:Of course, my first text was definitely Good evening everyone. We would like to welcome Valspar championship winner Peter Malnotti. Congrats on getting your second PGA Tour victory. We just want to start off with some opening comments on what it's like to hear.
Speaker 6:Yeah, this is, you know, that moment of winning a tournament and having your family come out on the green and the big hugs. That's something that I've seen other families have and that's been my dream. And you know, there's been a lot of stretches of golf in the last nine years when, you know, I wondered if I would ever have that experience. And you know I'm at peace with who I am and the way I live and the work that I put into this. If I'd never had the moment I had today, I would have been completely fine. But man was that special, that was so special and it felt, you know, it felt amazing. It was really validating for just all the hard work, all the times I've gotten on that plane and flown away from my family when they've stayed home. It was all it was all preparing for that moment and you know so, to get that second PGA Tour win, to have it be here at the Valspar championship, I just it's all. It's sinking in now, but it still feels completely surreal.
Speaker 5:I don't think there's any way to replicate what you gave such a great speech there at the trophy ceremony, but you kind of grabbed the mic and said there were some words you wanted to share, so kind of way you can summarize what you were feeling and shared with everyone.
Speaker 6:Absolutely. You know I well, I'll say something in here I didn't say out there, because I think it's important and relevant. I, when my first when my son Hatcher was born in 2019, I removed all my social media from my phone. So I don't do social media anymore and I'm a happier person because of it. Not that it's bad social media is not bad but for me, I didn't use it particularly well because I would always read comments and I wanted to use it as a way to be interactive, but it just it wasn't healthy for me, so I removed it all. So I don't know specifically what is being said.
Speaker 6:You know about me, about the PGA tour, about our sport in general, but I know the direction that it has been going for the last couple years and when I was outside, I was compelled to say this I feel like this win, this win is, you know, first and foremost, it is it's for me, it's for my family, it's for my caddy, it's for my team of people who support me, but on a larger scale, it's also it's for Tampa, it's for the Copperheads, it's for Valspar and it's for all the events on the PGA tour who find themselves in this new ecosystem kind of wondering where they fit and if they matter, because I wanted I said this out there because I wanted the Copperheads and the people of Tampa and the people from Valspar to know that there are thousands of Peter Melnotti's out there who are 10 years old right now, teenagers right now, who dream of playing golf on the PGA tour and they want to have the moment that I just got to have. And if we don't have, you know, communities that believe in what the PGA tour does and sponsors who support what the PGA tour does, we don't have those moments. And you know, I know that the narrative turns a lot to. You know we're coming up to Augusta. You know we're preparing for the majors. We're in that season there, in terms of the actual people who participate in golf at the highest level. 90% of us dream of the moment that I just had. There's a 10% that really do probably gear their schedules and focus on the majors, but 90% of the people who have, you know, made it to the top level of professional golf and 100% of the people who dream of being at the top level of professional golf live for that moment that I just had and it's amazing.
Speaker 6:I'm proud of myself. I did a lot of hard work. I'm proud of my family. They supported me.
Speaker 6:But it doesn't matter All that hard work and everything. We don't have tournaments to play in, if we don't have communities that think these tournaments matter, and if we don't have host organizations like the Copperheads and you know several other amazing host organizations around the country, we don't have a PGA tour. And so I just this win is for For all the host organizations, all the title sponsors, all the communities that kind of wonder. You know what the meaning of their event is like it's. It's to have entertainment come to your community.
Speaker 6:Fulfilled dreams for people like me, give the community something to be excited about in a way that gives back and enriches the community where we play, and I think this tournament is a shiny example that I'm just really I'm Couldn't be more proud and more honored to win, to win here, to win an event like this, and you know this is stands out, it's special, it's amazing. But I just want you know all the events out there like. I just want them to know that, like All, every PGA tour event, every cornfairy tour event, every event on PGA tour Americas matters, because it matters to the community where you play and we're gonna make a difference, and so, anyway, I just that. That was something I felt like I needed to say out there and I'm glad. I'm glad I was able to.
Speaker 5:Thank you, peter, but that's going to open up with questions and we'll start off with Jeff.
Speaker 4:Have a know well said, you talked about how nervous you were out there, but you didn't perform that way. What? What inside you was able to rise out there in that tight quarters?
Speaker 6:Definitely, you know, definitely a lot of repetition. You know I've done a lot of work. My, you know, I feel I feel really lucky. I have amazing, I have amazing coaches that have supported me. I think I was, I was ready, I was ready for that moment.
Speaker 6:Apparently, we see that I was because I definitely, you know, from about the I Would say from about the the 13th tee in I Didn't really feel my feel like myself over any shot. I was really amped up. I was in a, you know, a state of really like heightened energy and so I just had to keep going through my process and and I'd done enough repetitions that I could go through the process Properly and for the most part, I was able to execute I. I hit a nervy, a nervy shot into 16. I keep coming back to that one because that was the one, I would say, you know, disappointed me if I. But whatever you hit that shots and that's the only real one, like I look back I the rest of the day I hit, I hit shots even under that. That, that situation not feeling like I was myself it was really, I'm really proud of that and I ask about two of those birdies you found coming in on the back nine.
Speaker 4:You had the no-look birdie at 12, and then can you take us to the last birdie of the part three?
Speaker 6:Yeah, the put on 12 was so interesting. You know it's kind of. You know, I say I was here. People say like you know, sometimes when you win, you know those things have some things have to happen and go right.
Speaker 6:I was disappointed in the put on 12 Because I had picked a line where I really wanted to hit a nice. You know it was a squick pot, I didn't want to be silly but I like I picked a line, I really wanted to hit a nice you know aggressive pot, and I, just the minute I hit it I thought I'd left it short and I was like, ah, it's a good opportunity again. I thought I love it. So I just kind of I don't know what I was doing. I wasn't watching the ball roll because I knew it was gonna stop this far short and I was gonna go tap it in and Then I heard the crowd go nuts and I was like, okay, so that was cool, awesome little bonus. And then, you know, 17, I Think, in. You know, in normal, under normal conditions, I would have probably thought about a four iron, like holding it into that win, because I think, I think the total yardage to the hole was I Don't know anyone got it. I don't know how far it was, but I remember telling my caddy I needed to make a two, I needed to hit, hit it 208 and 208. It's a pretty big five iron for me, but in the situation I was in it was just a very normal fire and so I was like, all right, it's a perfect five iron, don't have to do anything special with it.
Speaker 6:Started on the TV tower, let the wind move it over to the middle of the green and you know, the wind moved it actually more than I thought. I actually executed it Really how I wanted to, and the wind moved it all the way to the hole and even pinched left of it. But that was. That was really fun in that moment. To just, you know, step up, not overthink it, just to full five iron at the TV tower go and To watch that ball fly was a really cool feeling. To have it like tracking the hole there and that was. That was really nice, and the pot was. I mean, I was nervous over the pot too, but Two balls out on the left and it's pretty quick, so just tap it in, as happy Gilmore would say.
Speaker 5:Two-time winner on the tour, but first time winning as a father. What was that like to see your sons come green side.
Speaker 6:I mean, hopefully now it's something enough that I handle it better here than I did there. But I'm not kidding, you know, people don't need to know all this. Like, golf wasn't my my thing growing up. I didn't my wasn't from a golf family, so I shot hoops in the driveway and Played baseball against my little bounce back. And I was always, you know, I imagined I was. I was on Marvel scale when I was playing baseball he's the best shortstop ever, amazing. And when I was Michael Jordan, when I was playing basketball and I was always like that game on the line time, tie game, last second, make this shot go boom. And so Then golf became my thing.
Speaker 6:And you know, through high school and college, like playing on the PJ tour was just a dream. It wasn't even a realistic goal. I was very mediocre college player at a very mediocre college, great college, mediocre golf program. I I Was still that kid. I'd go out to practice and every six footer at the end of my practice session was to, you know, to win the tournament.
Speaker 6:And even at that point in my life, like I imagine that moment when I would, you know, be married to the love of my life and she'd come running out and we'd have our family. It's like that's something that I wanted, and you know to have that entire dream Come to life and to, like you know, I looked over and saw I didn't see my family. I can't remember the exact order because my brain was spinning, but I don't think I saw him until after I'd hit the first putt. But I definitely saw him before I tapped in and I was I mean I had lost it before I had hit my last shot of the tournament for sure, but luckily it was like literally two inches from the hole. But yeah, that moment it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 5:Peter, you've been heaping praise on Valspar, and rightfully so. But how fitting is it? The guy that plays with the most colorful ball Just won the most colorful tournament on the PGA tour.
Speaker 6:It is fitting, isn't it? I Hadn't thought about it coming into this week that it was a great fit for me to win here with the yellow ball. But wow, what a you know. And the yellow ball is also Thank you. Thank you to my boy hatchery over there. I think he's kind of over it now, but it was cool back the last summer when I first told him that they'd made yellow golf balls, so I switched because he was into it and now now daddy kind of likes it and I think I'll be sticking with it for a little while and we'll we'll have the most colorful ball on tour. And you know, for at least For at least 12 months, you know, until I go pull Sam Burns the most colorful ball on tour will be the Valspar champion.
Speaker 4:Peter, 12 under wins tournament, which is a low number for most tournaments. What's it like playing in it on a course and I mean just some general thoughts on the copperhead course person yeah, so well, you said a low number.
Speaker 6:Golf always gets confusing because you know that that is Relative to what you normally see when on the PJ tour you might see more under par win. You know, I, just I. I see this golf course does not let you fake it like any time you're out of position, you're in trouble. The fairways are narrow. The penalty for missing the fairways is you have to get really creative and play an exceptional shot to get yourself back into position. The greens are small. The areas around the greens do not lend themselves to easy up and downs, so every shot on this golf course requires a lot of thought.
Speaker 6:I think it has one of the Best sets of par fives we play on tour. The par fives, you know, in certain wind conditions all four of them are reachable, but none is a gimme of a birdie. You got to work really hard and execute great shots to make birdies on the par fives. The the entire, you know the entire course. There's not, there's not a shot on the course where I feel like You're truly relaxed and I, you know, I can just, you know, I can just like, even, like you know, we played one of my favorite courses on tour last year or last week as well at TPC sawgrass, and I don't think anyone would ever call that an easy course. But you know, if you're in the ninth tee box there or something, it gives you a shot where you can just flail at one and hit it, and I mean certain wind conditions. You can't but I can. You don't have that on this course. Every single shot requires your attention and you know that shows. And you know the fact that you know you had a collection this week of 154. Is that how many ended up seeing up 154 of? You know the best golfers in the whole world and you know mother nature actually Provided good playing conditions.
Speaker 6:We thought we'd have worse. Like it was. It was windy, but no more than usual for for Florida this time of year, and 1200 par won the golf tournament. Pretty, pretty, pretty. That's. That is a compliment to the course and what it demands. And Now it's. This is definitely one of the I've always said you know I judge golf courses, I. I analyze golf courses on basically two criteria. You know like are they conditioned well enough that you feel like you can? You know if you execute well you can get a good result, and does the course, distinguish good shots from bad shots. This golf course is, I mean, it's 10 out of 10 on both criteria. It's amazing.
Speaker 5:Just spoke to how difficult the course is, especially with that closing stretch with the snake pit. Are you someone who leaderboard watches or what was kind of your game plan when you were talking with your catty coming down the stretch?
Speaker 6:You know, what's funny is I Don't look at the leaderboards because I'm, you know, trying to soak in a bunch of information. I look at them out of habit and I mean I looked at every leaderboard on the course today. My plan wasn't changing one bit. I mean one thing that most people probably don't know and Wouldn't expect, but I'll admit that you're like 80% of us on tour, like I went into today Knowing I could win on the PJ tour but really not wanting to finish 40th because as much as the leaderboard was, I could have finished 40th pretty easily, like it would have taken. I mean, you could look at what scored I had to shoot to finish 40th today and it would have been easy to do on that golf course. So I looked at leaderboards, I knew where I stood, but my plan was the same, whether I was two back or two up, I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna try to hit it between the bunkers off the tee or the you know, in 16th case, between the water and the trees, like it doesn't matter where I am in the field, not changing my strategy.
Speaker 6:So why I look at leaderboards, I don't know. It was more out of habit than anything else, but I knew where I stood. You know I obviously Didn't have it in real time, knowing what you know Cameron Young was making on all the holes, but I knew I was. You know, when I stood over the six footer on 17. I was tied for the lead. I knew before I hit my second shot on 18 that I had two shot lead. Yeah, I, I don't know what I was doing with all that information in my head, but I I had it, peter, I know you said the impactor, just this win and and what these events mean to the community.
Speaker 6:But you are now going to the Masters. Has that sunk in yet? What is that feeling like? You know, I got asked a lot when I was, when I was a kid. You know my, you know my. My uncle has tickets to the Masters. You want to come? My friend has tickets to the Masters. You want to come? And I Always said no, I don't want to go watch people play golf. I don't sound fun. So I didn't go.
Speaker 6:And then, you know, as I became a PJ tour member and, you know, played on the PJ tour, became a winner on the PJ tour, I would occasionally meet you know the right person who said you want to come play Augusta. I was like, no, like I want to go play Augusta. When I'm in the Masters, that's when I want to go play Augusta. So you know the fact that I it's still an invitation. Well, they can choose not to invite me, I suppose, but I think historically they're pretty consistent and I think I'll get an invitation. I'll probably accept that invitation, which will be really, really, I Mean, you know, the realization of another childhood dream, you know to. Yeah, I mean I guess. Yeah, that's cool. I hasn't sink in yet at all, because I mean, I'm, I guess I'm gonna be there, and when? When is it three weeks or something? Wow, you similar old Masters. That's pretty cool. So, yeah, that's great, I mean. But you again, just to reiterate, like that's amazing, I'm gonna be, I'm already thankful for that opportunity, I can't wait.
Speaker 6:But I call come back to this and I mean it. You know, I remember I remember playing on the then nationwide now corn fairy tour in 2015. Every single event out there felt like a major to me. Every single event that I've played on the PJ tour ever. Like I remember. You know we affectionately refer to some of our events, as you know, the island tour, some of our events that are additional field events. Every single time I've played in in Puerto Rico, in Dominican, those feel I've never teed it up in a tour event and not felt Wow, this is like I'm nervous and this is important. Like, and 90% of us on tour are that way.
Speaker 6:So, like you know, I'm gonna go play next week in Houston. And like there may not be the history and the, the, the story, and you know, I may feel something special when I get on the grounds at Augusta, and I hope I do. But I'm gonna feel just as amped up on the first team next week in Houston, because this playing golf on the PJ tour for 90% of us out here is a really, really hard and be the realization of a dream. So I'm not gonna put too much, too much emphasis on the fact that you have in. You know I'm in in the masters. That's that is. That is cool, don't get me wrong. I'm excited about it and I cannot wait to set foot on on the grounds. That'll be amazing. But you, I think, more.
Speaker 6:What has sunk in to me is this guarantees me that this is my tenth season on the PGA tour. It guarantees me that I'm going to have 12 at least. Pretty cool, like. That's pretty cool, like for where I? You know, it's just always my dream to never get a real job, actually believe it or not. I never knew what it was going to look like when I was a kid. I watched my dad work really hard and I didn't look like fun. So I was like I want to play baseball for a living or tennis or something. And then it turned into golf and now I know for sure I'm going to have a job on the best tour in the world for two and a half more years. That's pretty. That's what I think about right now, but I'm sure, as I, you know, relax a little bit from here, I'll start wondering what that 12th tee shot to that back right pin, I guess, is going to feel like. So it is pretty cool.
Speaker 5:And kind of going off that with scheduling moved to 16th, the FedEx Cup and you're in the remainder of the signature events, like how important is that for this season?
Speaker 6:It has really important. I mean, you know we've, we've really, you know we've put an emphasis and I think rightfully so on prioritizing getting the top players in the world to play together more often. I think that's incredibly important. I have work to do to consider myself in that group of one of those, like one of those top players in the world, but right now I'm 16th on the FedEx Cup and I'm going to have a strong handful of opportunities to play in those fields and you know, I've had one access to one so far this year at Pebble Beach, and I did well, I held my own. And to be in those, you know, is incredibly, incredibly meaningful. Because you know, first of all, there's some of my favorite tournaments. You know I get to go, I get to go play Hilton Head. Hilton Head, you know, next to this golf course, is one of the most challenging courses that we play all year and it's one that I look forward to going to each and every year. So knowing that I might not have been there this year was, you know, was motivation for me to play really well. And, you know, work hard and try to get there. And you know, now I'm there, that's amazing. And then you know, our, my wife and our closest friends in the world live in Columbus, ohio, and we stay with them every year for the Memorial. And so to you know, to not know if I was going to be in that field, that stinks, because like we want to go there, like we want to be there. And so now we know, and that's like that's cool.
Speaker 6:And I've joked, I've joked with Nathan at the Travelers Championship for a long time that I always tell him that he, that that's my major, because I just like, like for me the most fun course on tour is TPC River Highlands. Like it's fun, this course I would not use the word fun for it Very, very stressful, amazing, but very stressful, like if, if I'm still alive, which I hope I will be I take good care of myself and I still love golf, which I'm pretty sure I will I want to be a member at TPC River Highlands when I'm 75. It's just fun to play Like I just love, I love the course. So I've always but I've always joked with with Nathan that you know, the Travelers is my major and everyone else is peeking for all these other and the Travelers, that's my major. And so now I'm in. I'm in my major, which is which is particularly cool Like just to know. I'm going to tee it up a handful of times, knowing I'm playing with the best players in the world for elevated FedEx cut points. That's, that's spectacular.
Speaker 5:Unless there are any others, I'll finish up with. How do the Malnadi celebrate tonight? That's all. We've already started with ice cream after green side, but what will look like tonight?
Speaker 6:We got PB and J's in the car for the trip to the airport. Let's go there, are we? So make hatch your a promise right now. You're probably going to go to school tomorrow, but we won't get you up early for it. You can. You can sleep until you wake up and go in a little late. Does that sound? Does it sound like a good deal? Perfect.
Speaker 5:Perfect with that. Thank you, peter, for the time and again, congratulations.
Speaker 6:Thank you all so much, thank you.
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Speaker 1:It's beautiful there in a Sprook Resort, a fabulous, fabulous place, the Copperhead course, a tough, tough test. Another features this week, or features one of the cool things that happened this week. Let's just say it that way, keith Mitchell, my goodness, birdie, birdie, eagle, to finish the snake pit. Nobody's ever done it. Four under par in the last three holes, the snake pit, 16, 17, and 18. So congratulations to Cashmere. Keith Mitchell, hey, I'm Frank Bassett, thanking each and every one of you for listening to PGH, your Countdown, and the Golf Talk America Network family of shows. We'll be back with you with another PGH, your Countdown, and PGH, your Rap show this week. From Texas the tour moves to Texas. Thanks for listening, everyone, and we will catch you in the grill room.