Violent Boopability with COMPLIMENTARY COLORS

This is an all-timer, my friends. Portland queer folk collective Complimentary Colors joined us this week, and Ash, Camille, and Hannah instantly made us hope we could be friends IRL…as I’m sure most people hope for in their company. They make beautiful, emotional, honest music and they played three such tunes LIVE in studio. Plus, movie ettiquette, an organic conversation about Taco Bell, and Big Papa Drew. Just enjoy, y’all! 

Music this week:

• "Not Coping Well" by Complimentary Colors (25:48)
• "Moonbeam Girl" by Complimentary Colors (48:37)
• "Fever Pitch" by Complimentary Colors (86:09)
• "Fly Fly" by Zookraught (105:29)

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Corblin Gorgons.

SPEAKER_06 0:01

Corblin, Sorgens.

SPEAKER_04 0:03

Sorgums. Ed Sorgins. Borgins, Fortland. Sorgons. Oh, sorghens. I'm from South Sorgon. The West Farlings.

SPEAKER_07 0:18

You're listening to Hot Garbage.

SPEAKER_06 0:28

Hello and welcome to another episode of the Hot Garbage Podcast, Portland, Oregon's premiere music discovery and interview show. My name is Drew. I'm one of your co-hosts. I am joined as always by my dear friend and co-host, Andy.

SPEAKER_05 0:42

Yeah, how you doing, Drew?

SPEAKER_06 0:43

I'm doing very well. Andy, our silent partner, Nate, is with us. He is producing, making the sound happen, as he so often does. Andy, do you know that phrase uh like when they say like he's a comedian's comedian or like a writer's writer, you know? Like that that concept, it's like this one's like the one that the writers like, or your favorite rapper's favorite rapper, that kind of thing. What is who's the the podcaster's podcaster? Oh does that does that media have uh like oh that's the one, that's the real that's the OG. Yeah, unfortunately, I think it's us. I was wondering.

SPEAKER_05 1:20

I was wondering where we have a lot of podcasts that are that to me, but I think to the rest of the world it's us. I yeah, I think we are podcasters podcaster.

SPEAKER_06 1:29

You know, we're never gonna move a bunch of units, you know, we're never gonna be in that echelon, but we're gonna be like doing something that we're gonna be like there's gonna be like a Toshin book about us, like a big coffee table book about us in like 30 years.

SPEAKER_05 1:42

Uh and like the dude from Hardcore History.

SPEAKER_06 1:45

Yeah, Dan Carlin. Yeah, yeah. Us and Dan Carlin, the podcast. He really is the podcaster's podcaster.

SPEAKER_05 1:50

That's a pretty good card. He really is. That's that dude puts in the work, and I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_06 1:53

He does put in the work. Those are like three-hour episodes or whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:58

We're just we're just fucking around for 90 minutes every week. But this 90 minutes is so worth it. This is there's uh we had the band Complimentary Colors on tonight, and there's just a long, agonizing history of of near misses with getting them on the show. We just had some ups and downs that have prevented us from getting on the calendar at the same time, but we finally pulled it off, and wow, totally worth the wait. So we had from Complimentary Colors, we had Camille, Ash, and Hannah. Everyone was here. They played three live tunes for us, amazing harmonies, just beautiful music, and totally cool people to hang out with.

SPEAKER_05 2:35

And you guys, um, maybe it's just me, but the lights in this room were really hitting tonight. The lights were hitting hard. Yeah. You're not gonna hear it, but you might.

SPEAKER_06 2:44

We got some videos up on our Instagram. Go check out our Instagram page, give it a follow while you're poking around. We have some video from tonight so you can see the band performing live. Uh, and uh it's just a just a fun group of people to hang out with. And uh we we got we caught a good vibe on this week's episode. Uh follow complimentary colors. Um they've got an album coming out, uh, or they're gonna start recording a new album soon. They've got a couple of singles that they're gonna be releasing, so go follow them where you find them. They're just about to launch their website, give that a gander. Uh, I think you're gonna want to after our super fun hang with complimentary colors on this week's episode of Hot Garbage.

SPEAKER_09 3:29

There's these uh little flowers. They're what are they called? The little the ones that the buzz buttons. And they're they look kind of like tiny chamomile, but they're not. You put them in your mouth and they make your mouth water so much that it sometimes you end up drooling. And we had a Camille's last birthday party was a sensory party.

SPEAKER_07 3:55

You had a a drool side.

SPEAKER_09 3:57

That was one of the stations, and people were like, what is happening to my face right now?

SPEAKER_07 4:01

You had a drug that would stimulate each sort of like I mean we uh yeah, we threw a sensory party because that's what I decided I wanted. Sounds incredible lights and music playing, and there was karaoke, and like we had feather ticklers everywhere. Um we had a furry we had really soft blankets all over the place, and we had a whole table of stim toys. Hundreds of little stims of them and like temporary tattoos and the buzz button. The taste tester thing to find out if you are able to like how super taster you are.

SPEAKER_06 4:45

What chest do you have access to that we're missing out?

SPEAKER_02 4:48

They were all bad. They were all really bad. If you could taste them all, then you're a super taster. And some people will put it in their mouth and they'd be like, I don't taste anything.

SPEAKER_07 4:56

There are these little strips of paper that kind of look like little pH test strips. And uh there's four can four canisters of them. One of them is the um the control, and then there's one that's the soup salad and breadsticks just the rest of them. It just tastes like paper, and then the other ones, there's one that's slightly salty, slightly bitter, and slightly sour. And um, yeah, you try each one of them. And some people only taste paper on all three or all four.

SPEAKER_06 5:31

Uh-huh. What a sad life they live. That's interesting.

SPEAKER_05 5:33

Wow. So you had that stuff that's like if you eat it, it makes sour things sweet and sweet things sour.

SPEAKER_07 5:40

We were just having this conversation.

SPEAKER_09 5:42

That's wild, because I've never heard of this, and now I've heard about it two times in like three days. It's wild stuff. It's crazy stuff.

SPEAKER_06 5:51

It's like not a men or for vision? Oh, certainly have a fourth cone.

SPEAKER_07 5:58

Yeah, someone who can see more colors than that would make sense. I definitely can see colors that other people can't see. Like they'll I'll do those tests online and turn my brightness all the way up. I'm like, oh yeah, do you not see this? And Ash is like, I don't know, that's all black to me.

SPEAKER_06 6:14

We have a couple friends who are like red, green, deficient, colorblind, and they make these you know sunglasses that you can wear that, you know, make make everything sort of, I guess, standardized or whatever the right term is. But they were them in like an art museum and he was like blown away by the the colors that that he was seeing. But it just goes to show that all of these things like our brain is is the is the device, and it can just get its like the wires can get crossed or enhanced or whatever. It just like it makes me feel sometimes like we're just not in control at all. Honestly, when I hear stuff like this, I'm like, I don't know, we're just we're just along for the ride.

SPEAKER_07 6:46

I mean, kind of. We're just sailing around in these meat suits that do what they do regardless of what we have to say about it.

SPEAKER_06 6:53

It also makes me feel a little sometimes like disconnected from people because we can be having the exact same experience but not experiencing the same thing at all, even to like agreeing on what a color is. That's that's sort of it sometimes feels a little bit lonely to be honest.

SPEAKER_07 7:09

But I could see that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 7:11

But on the other hand, with something like music, that can reach across a bunch of abstractions and differences, and you just you just feel something, you know? You just feel the same thing in the pit of your chest, even if you don't know exactly how to say it.

SPEAKER_07 7:23

So it's so funny because we've been talking about this a lot as a band because there are old recordings. We don't we don't like to publicize our old recordings, even though they are on our band camp, you know. But we just we don't sell them anymore, we don't promote them anymore because it's not what we want to sound like. It was a great capture of that time. But because of that, we have all of these friends that have loved that music for years, have listened to those albums for years, and we're forced to come to reckoning with like, oh, their experience of it is completely different from our experience of it, and it's not our place to tell them that that's not a good experience to have. Like once the art's out there, whatever form it's in, even if it's a draft, you know, um, people start feeling those things, people have their own experience of it, and it becomes really important to them. I had someone beg me the other day to get out one of the old albums for them because they lost their copy. I was like, all right, I'll dig them out of storage. But like, who am I to yak their yum?

SPEAKER_06 8:29

So when you when something like that happens, does it ever change your relationship to those that material? Does it does it make you see it or experience it in a in a new way? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 8:39

Yeah, definitely. Yeah, it made it easier for me to be okay with not only like my past process, but my current process because it's really easy to be critical. We're always just doing that, right? We're always criticizing. Totally. But to know that like people liked me back before I studied harder and harder and harder. Like, so wherever I think I'm not at right now, people really like it. So it's valid. If they're into it, they're into it. And even if they're not, like, it's just what I'm doing right now. Yeah. It's perfectly fine. It's who I am. It's like you said, a good capture of where we're at. Right. Yeah. It's the truth.

SPEAKER_07 9:15

Try to um lean more into these days. Other people's opinions are none of my business. And like it's a hard law to live by, but yeah. I don't know, it's such an important thing to remember as an artist. Like, yes, the opinions of the people around us, the p opinions of the people from the past, they do matter within terms of our career, but like it really doesn't matter what they are. You know what I mean? As long as there's opinion, there's still a good opinion, I guess.

SPEAKER_06 9:50

I this tends to come up a lot because I'm always curious about the I I guess it's like the energy exchange between an audience and an artist. Because the those those worlds are very separate in more terms of what you're bringing to the experience of creating a song and hearing a song. But I guess one of the things that like has emerged that's pretty consistent is it really is about that moment. Like, that's what was so beautiful about seeing y'all do this live here in RCD. It's just like that experience cannot be recontextualized. That's what's happening among those people in the room. And I think that's sort of just the the essence of of what music is really about that raw live experience. And so people change, listeners change, your style and expected Taco Bell and the moment you shared isn't safe.

SPEAKER_02 10:36

Except for when they took away the freaking double decker. What the hell can we do that on this please? Please do.

SPEAKER_07 10:40

Especially about Taco Bell.

SPEAKER_06 10:46

Go back to what we will not be talking about music again for the duration. Um I didn't know this was gone.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

Well, no, it's just gone.

SPEAKER_06 10:57

We're talking about the core ingredients, man.

SPEAKER_05 10:59

They're gonna bring it back. They just like bringing down false scarcity on their fans, which is a dick move.

SPEAKER_02 11:05

Me personally.

SPEAKER_05 11:06

Yeah, it's feels very intentional. I feel the same way about the chili cheese burrito, and then they brought it back, and instead of it being like the cheapest thing on the menu, it was like four fucking dollars. This is exactly what you were demand.

SPEAKER_06 11:16

This is exactly what you're saying about your old material and the people that loved it. This is the actual airtight metaphor for exactly what you were talking about.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

We're like double deckers trash. We're like, fuck you, we love it.

SPEAKER_06 11:26

Who the fuck is Taco Bell to me? You don't get to get on the history, you know?

SPEAKER_07 11:31

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 11:32

So what you just uh like um when you think back on those old recordings and the s the the early days, what is what has changed about your expectations for what the group is now that make those a chapter one and this is a chapter two? Like what's new and what's what's right about things now that wasn't maybe perfect then?

SPEAKER_07 11:52

Well, I mean, for one, we all went back to music school. Um, our pandemic project I managed somehow through my wonderful powers of persuasion to talk both of these fools into going back to school because what the hell else were we doing? What the hell else were we doing? And um in going back to school and studying music and really spending time with theory, you know. Ash really for the first time learning theory and being in a music education situation, me getting to retouch on so many things, and then Hannah turning into jazz goddess over here. Um we we got a chance to hear ourselves in a different way through again, through other people's ears, right? Through the ears of academia, which is a completely different experience, and it really refined our sound, it really helped us lean into even more fully like what was important to us about the band, and um that's always been the vocal harmony first and foremost. Yeah. And um, you know, back then, even though Hannah is on our album uh Live with the Supergroup, um, which was a whole adventure, uh Hannah was an official part of the band, and we just started singing together so much that it made sense for us to become an official trio and really lean into that as the core of the band instead of focusing on other instrumentation and things like that. Like we play with violin occasionally, but but really it's just the three of us, and we found that solid foundation for it, I guess, is that how you guys would put it.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Yeah, definitely. I I know that I got a lot better at you know playing a supporting role. And part of that was my experience in this group and other groups, and like going to school and just learning what the difference is between all the different roles, and like it's been a really fun journey. What I'm doing today is completely different, even though we are playing some of the same songs. It's completely different than what I did on that super group album. Oh, totally. So it's cool.

SPEAKER_06 14:06

Do you you feel like I'm sure you learn all kinds of different things and you start to learn the language when you go to school and you kind of understand what things are called, and you know, you can manipulate the pieces in different ways. But does it become like a cheat code for what you want to express? Do you find like it was it like learning a new language in the sense that you could suddenly apply abstract ideas in concrete ways? Or like what was the biggest change once you had the knowledge and the vocabulary for what you were trying to do?

SPEAKER_05 14:33

And would you guys call it a school of hard knocks?

SPEAKER_09 14:36

Hard knocks? That school? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 14:40

During that especially during 2021 and 22.

SPEAKER_09 14:43

At our age, around everybody else? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:46

It was weird going to school as like an adult.

SPEAKER_08 14:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 14:50

All of us in our 30s with all of these children, many of whom have never had life experience because it was pandemic to be.

SPEAKER_06 14:58

Was it hard to bully 18-year-olds as 30-year-olds? No, everything's a good idea. Actually, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_09 15:18

Not mean. Just direct communication. And then we were like, what changed? What happened? They were like, You were mean. I was like, when?

SPEAKER_06 15:26

I thought I was joking about the bullying, but now we know the awful truth.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

Well, when you're 18, everything's the end of the world. Oh, I know, yes. When you're 30, you're like, all right, hey, man, it's relax. It's fine. It's really not a big deal. It's gonna be fine.

SPEAKER_06 15:39

One of the best parts of not having children, which I don't, Andy and Nate do, but I don't, is I can dismiss an entire generation of people just out of pocket. Like I don't have to acknowledge anything about them. I have no accountability to them at all. That's that's really nice.

SPEAKER_05 15:52

Yeah, but my kids do look up to you as a father figure for some reason.

SPEAKER_06 15:55

I don't understand it. They call you big papa drew because I'm withholding and distant, you know. It makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_09 16:02

By our powers combined, we do it. So you get them to work harder for your love.

SPEAKER_05 16:06

Yeah, I actually use it a lot where I'm like, oh god, do you want me to tell Big Papa Drew about this? And they're like, sure, don't do it regular, Dad. We'll be good.

SPEAKER_06 16:14

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_05 16:15

Don't bring in Big Papa Drew.

SPEAKER_06 16:17

I'm 99.8% sure you're joking, but the 0.2% that is a possibility is a is a real treat for me. If they were behind my back, never to my face calling me big papa drew, I'd be honored. I'd be touched. It might renew my consideration for their generation. But yeah, like you know, what what was like I guess maybe what was the thing that you were like, this is a a great tool for writing song style? Like what was something you maybe would never have known that you've been able to apply that came out of that educational experience?

SPEAKER_09 16:50

For myself, it was having the vocabulary and the the words to be able to express what I was trying to pull out of my like head and my heart, like what I was hearing, um being able to work with um chord structures and music theory and building off like this is a feeling that I want to um add to this song, and then being able to look up and be like, these are the this is where I'm gonna start with building the song or having a vibe or being able to communicate what I'm hearing so that us three as a trio can put it down on paper and get it into rehearsal.

unknown 17:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 17:33

Well, and I think another big big thing that affected Ash and I is we sang with the a cappella group on campus. We spent a competition season with them and um had never been forced into that kind of close listening environment before. Like I've been in choirs. I sang with another choir at PSU and it was a great experience. But the kind of close listening that's required for a cappella music specifically.

SPEAKER_05 18:05

Like physically close.

SPEAKER_07 18:06

Um actually often. Um, but just like genuinely having to listen to how every teeny little cog of the music fit together and how each rhythm had to play off of the others when you're creating the instrument scape on top of the lyrics. Um, I think that was most impactful for me.

SPEAKER_09 18:27

The dynamics, the dynamics learning and and blending, like blending, you know, I'm I'm like kind of a a little parakeet of repeating things, but actually having really that closeness of listening with um the a cappella group. It just helped me work on dynamics and blending a lot, which I found um very helpful in applying to the songs that we have already sang in the past and then building them together moving forward.

SPEAKER_05 19:00

Yeah, did you feel like that was like like you just plugged in the game, genie? When you were like, oh, now all of our more music we can make it even better.

SPEAKER_09 19:07

It all makes sense now.

SPEAKER_02 19:08

I wish.

SPEAKER_07 19:09

That's crazy. I felt that way.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

I mean, yes, yes. Yes, yeah. Yeah. But you know, it what we do here, it takes work.

SPEAKER_07 19:18

It does.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

Well, we but it is nice to have a little Oh, finally.

SPEAKER_07 19:22

Right. Yeah. It did it just because you weren't in the group with us, Hannah, but um Hannah was doing other close listening jazz choirs and things like that, which is a similar experience. Because people so many people don't realize like when you're singing together, you can place sound in different places in your mouth, and the like just an iota difference in mouth shape makes such a huge difference in the way you sound together. And yeah, it just uh yeah, it opened our eyes, I think, in a lot of ways that what we really needed.

SPEAKER_09 19:58

Really helps the harmonies and the blending really really lock in.

SPEAKER_02 20:02

It's really interesting to have your instrument be you, whereas everything else is outside of you. Um there's just so it's a different kind of experience. I think everyone should sing who's a musician, even if they don't do it like professionally or on stage. Like I really think they should fuck with it. Yeah, it's a really cool experience.

SPEAKER_05 20:21

I'm a huge fan of it, and um yeah, uh there's um one of my favorite a cappella groups is these dudes called The Persuasions. Yeah, they did a Grateful Dead cover album. Oh hell yeah. Like all a cappella, it's awesome. I highly recommend to tune that out. And they were on a uh an a season of one of the a cappella reality shows. Oh hell yeah. And they're all still like playing together.

SPEAKER_07 20:45

Oh shit. That's cool. Yeah, there were a couple of those for a while there. I was in heaven. I've been obsessed with a cappella music for 20 years at this point, so it was exciting to see those on TV.

SPEAKER_05 20:59

I was listening to the Pitch Perfect soundtrack today. Yeah. Yes. Just one of the one of the rizz-offs.

SPEAKER_06 21:05

You love it. Yeah. I was just listening to Riff-Offs? Yeah, there we go. I mean these days it would be a rizzoff for sure. I was just listening to those lifesaver commercials that you whereas like Ladies with Black Mambaza talking about the play. I remember those. They're beautiful. They're awesome. It really was. I mean, I'm a sucker for Harmony, so you I it bought a lot of lifesavers.

SPEAKER_05 21:30

How do you feel about lifesavers gummies, guys? Strong. Do you feel like they're good or really bad? I feel like there's polarized opinions about much better gummy candy.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

What are you doing, man? There is.

SPEAKER_05 21:40

I'm a I'm a gummy fan. It's my favorite kind of candy.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

If it's the only thing around. I am too.

SPEAKER_05 21:46

I feel like they're like a menod in this conversation. Really shitty texture. They're just like they're too soft, but the flavors are popping.

SPEAKER_07 21:53

The flavors are great. The texture is terrible. I I I would love them if they were just. A little bit like tougher. I don't know. I need like a sour watermelon texture sort of situation. What do you guys think of the harbour? Like a tough gummy.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

Oh my god, haribo.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

Haribo.

SPEAKER_06 22:11

Sorry.

SPEAKER_05 22:13

I think Albanese gummies are really like kick kicking so much ass right now. Those little butterfly ones.

SPEAKER_07 22:19

Oh, I haven't had those. I think they're from Indiana. So is Ash.

SPEAKER_09 22:24

Oh, so am I? I think these are Indiana gummies. What part of Indiana are you from? I'm from Southeast Indiana. Oh, okay. Evansville? Uh oh, that's the other side.

SPEAKER_06 22:32

Lawrenceburg, Indiana. It's like right on the Ohio River. I'm from Noblesville. Noblesville.

SPEAKER_09 22:37

Yep. Yeah. I've spent some time up there. Yeah. And here we are.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

We did it. High five. We did the right thing.

SPEAKER_05 22:44

I want to say uh just to all of our listeners, I've also spent some time there and it sucks.

SPEAKER_06 22:49

It's not a state model of Indiana is at least we're not Illinois.

SPEAKER_04 22:54

That's fair. Yep. That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 22:56

Is it really?

SPEAKER_04 22:57

No.

SPEAKER_02 22:57

No.

SPEAKER_04 22:58

No.

SPEAKER_02 22:58

No, but it may as well be. It's like I was just in Chicago and that shit was lit.

SPEAKER_06 23:01

Chicago is great. Chicago's not a it's not a fair representation of Illinois.

SPEAKER_07 23:06

Illinois is uh It's kind of like Portland being a little separate from Oregon. Similar vibe.

SPEAKER_09 23:12

I see, I see.

SPEAKER_07 23:12

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_06 23:13

No, Chicago's great. The the Indiana has it's fine. It was a fine place to be from, I suppose. But um Well, okay, so I wanna I want to see all this this learning and practice because y'all were generous enough to play some beautiful live tunes for us. And why don't you tell us a little bit about the first one you played and and we'll let people get a little sample of what y'all are talking about.

SPEAKER_07 23:32

Absolutely. Uh so what was the first one we played? Not not coping well. Um not coping well is a song that arrived to me at three in the morning one night. Um I'm gonna get sad for a second. I had had uh one friend who just go into a diabetic coma, and another friend uh 33 years old suffer her first stroke. And um it all happened within a week with two very close friends of mine and it hit me like a mag track that oh I'm not doing well and I tend to be shy about being so direct in a piece of songwriting, but I just had to write it out. I'm not coping well, I'm not doing great, I'm not loving this interview with the potential of death, you know. And uh it really became a soothing anthem. I think somebody asked us the other day, what's your hit? And I was like, Oh, I'm not coping well, it was the hit. Everyone loves it because it is a journey through that feeling, and we ended up at the end. It's okay. It's okay if I'm not coping well. It's okay if everything's hard. We can sit in this place together, and I think it really creates a cool space for listeners to sit in that campaign with us, whether they cry or feel joy or whatever they feel at the end, um yeah, it's just become a really important part of the band.

SPEAKER_05 25:16

You know that thing that happens sometimes when you hear a really great song and you're like, holy shit, how did you put those exact words together that I'm feeling right now? You fucking did it. Fuck yeah, thank you, dude. I appreciate that. You just like pulled them out of the air.

SPEAKER_09 25:31

Thank you. Yeah, we were we were like slowing down for the night. We're we're night owls, so 3 a.m. is a decent bedtime for us. At least for Camille and I. I know down. Yep. But uh we were just laying in bed and getting like cozy, had one of our kittens cuddling with us, and then babe just sits up and goes, I gotta write this down, don't talk to me. And I was like, Go, babe, go.

SPEAKER_07 25:58

And honest to God, it was written in 20 minutes. It just happened to me.

SPEAKER_06 26:03

Amazing. Well, let's let's give it a listen. I think people are gonna like it.

SPEAKER_10 27:11

Just in case you couldn't tell, I can lead into the corners when I'm driving in my car, but the motion my body won't get me very full, and I'm not copying well, just in case you couldn't tell, I'm not copy. Just in case you couldn't tell. It's okay, so yeah, it's okay, it's okay, it's all even when I'm not copying well, just in case you could be well.

SPEAKER_07 30:53

It is hands down like I'm not gonna turn up my nose at regular Skittles, but Wildberry Purple Pack.

SPEAKER_06 31:01

You know what I noticed? I do some volunteering. The place I volunteer sometimes has like the little candies, and since Easter was recently, they have the little tiny packets of uh Skittles that are like Easter flavor. But they're basically just the you know the normal. And I think they shove all the oranges and yellows that everyone hates in the bag because it's like an oops all yellows bag every time I open them. I think it's just like the runoff from the stuff that people like. You get like one red in there and you get nothing else but yellows.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

I love the orange and yellow Skittles. I love the yellow skittles. And the orange and yellow starbour. I love them. I'm not a huge one. Thank you for putting me on for that.

SPEAKER_05 31:39

Skittles fucked me over real hard when they were like, you know what, green's not lime anymore. Now it's a green apple.

SPEAKER_07 31:44

Oh, I hate that. They put it back. Fuck that. They finally put it back because there's so much bullshit. Yeah, everyone was so mad. I yeah. I almost wrote a strongly worded letter. I have a serious question.

SPEAKER_09 31:55

I have a serious question. Please. Um what do you how do you feel about candy corn? Oh, I fucking hate it.

SPEAKER_02 32:03

Oh, I love it.

SPEAKER_09 32:04

Getting into weird terms.

SPEAKER_06 32:05

I love gross candy. I love it, and I eat it in thirds. I like taking tiny little bites. Okay. Oh, you eat them colored by corn. I mean I like little tiny.

SPEAKER_07 32:13

I don't love candy corn anymore, but if I am gonna still occasionally venture there, you gotta do it in the thirds. Sure.

SPEAKER_06 32:19

And I thank you for saying that.

SPEAKER_05 32:21

I love shoving it on my canine teeth and giving myself cool vampire teeth for a minute. Very funny.

SPEAKER_09 32:26

Every Halloween I try one and I even look at it and go, all right, are we gonna be cool? We're gonna be cool. And then I eat it and I go, fuck, it's still bad.

SPEAKER_06 32:33

Well, it's one of those traditional canin-I think you can just safely give it up. I don't think that you have to you don't owe it any allegiance. Like you don't have to keep trying. That's like a depression.

SPEAKER_09 32:42

I want to like it because most people don't, so then it means more for me. I want to like it. But this is actually like circus corners.

SPEAKER_06 32:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 32:50

But I'm every every year I'm like, I'm gonna try one. And like, oh, this is so bad. I hate this.

SPEAKER_06 32:55

How do y'all feel about corn nuts? I love corners. Yes, I have never not loved corners.

SPEAKER_07 33:02

I've never felt so alone. Even though my teeth hurt every single damn time, I had to I had a weird time period where I had trouble with my teeth, and I was like, I would still like occasionally get some and just tuck them in my cheek like a little squirrel and wait till they were just soft enough to chew down. Like it was corn. The deep abiding love for corn nuts is with me. I can't even do it.

SPEAKER_06 33:24

Let me tell you a little corn nuts to your sensory party. Like this, there's the these are all like sensory experiences.

SPEAKER_05 33:31

If you guys like corn nuts, very fucking go-to new seasons. They have them like in bulk in these little tubs, and they're the best fucking corn nuts I've ever had.

SPEAKER_07 33:39

They are because they're they're bigger and they're fluffier and they're inside them. They're so good.

SPEAKER_05 33:45

There's like they're big enough that there's a space between for like air and it's a little bit more. But is it that you can get like a scoop of? No, they kind of give them they already have them in like these little tubs. Oh, pre-pack them. They're right next to the best nuts in the world, the Valencia almonds. Oh, those are good too. Fuck me up. I'm give those two things. I go to New Seasons and I get I also get a uh a sourdough baguette of that's covered in sea salt and rosemary. Yeah. There's like the three best things in that store. Yeah. It only costs you $40. And I could grab a handful of guitar picks on the way out.

SPEAKER_08 34:17

Perfect.

SPEAKER_06 34:17

I go with the uh the planters pistachio blend because they've got some some cashews in there and some and pistachios and some almonds. That's a good blend. But all obviously you guys all like disgusting things, so maybe you'll hate them because they're really delicious.

SPEAKER_07 34:31

I came around to pistachios over the last few years, but something about the texture of cashews I've never put my whole life. I like to make things out of cashews.

SPEAKER_06 34:40

You know what? We would be good um like trail mix buddies because you would you would pick clean all the disgusting things and I'd be left with nothing but the delicious stuff for me. So perfect. I love it.

SPEAKER_05 34:50

Oh man, I grew up in Michigan, so I fucking love cashew chicken. Cashew chicken. The cashew chicken in Michigan is different than pla other places. It's not like traditional Chinese food in any way. It is very sweet and very covered in sugar, and goddamn.

SPEAKER_07 35:05

Michigan doesn't have traditional Chinese food. Yeah, you'd be surprised. I'm feeling crazy, right?

SPEAKER_05 35:09

It's very gentrified, and the sweet and sour sauce there is better. I guess I don't even know what a wolverine is. When I moved to Portland, I went to a Chinese food restaurant and they were like, I was like, Can I get some more sweet and sour sauce? And they were like, honey, that's just ketchup. Oh man. And they were right. It depends on where you go. It depends on where you go. It's just different. It's it's it's they have all kinds of different good things. But man, the Michigan's version of the like gentrified Chinese food is fucking great.

SPEAKER_06 35:37

We had we had Indiana, we had the Peking garden. That was the one we had in my hometown. And it I don't know, like I don't know if it was authentic because they they were Chinese, but I think they were probably catering to us like Midwesterners. At least the sweet and sour didn't seem ketchupy to me. It seemed like it had c it was clear.

SPEAKER_07 35:55

There was some slightly the brown slightly.

SPEAKER_06 36:00

It seemed a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 36:02

The Michigan shit is red. Yeah. Clear at the same time.

SPEAKER_06 36:06

Bright red.

SPEAKER_05 36:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:07

Whatever they have at the have you guys been to the King Buffet up on on I know you have on 80 seconds?

SPEAKER_07 36:12

Not in so many years. That used to be my spot in 2015.

SPEAKER_06 36:17

It's a little shameful, a shameful treat for myself every once ago. So there's this app at the time. You can get a big old spoonful of the emoji all you want.

SPEAKER_05 36:25

There's this app right now called Too Good to Go. I love that spy will sell you the food at the end of the night at restaurants, and one of them is Super King Buffet, and I have not been brave enough to do it. What do you got left, guys? Put it in this bag and I'll be moving my buffet.

SPEAKER_09 36:41

I love a buffet. Like you have to I have to I have to be watched because if I go up for fourths, I'm like, someone stop me. Except there's also the other half of me that really hates other people's germs. And so I have a really hard time going to buffets after a certain time of the day, even at the beginning, because I I don't know how many times I've been in line and I'm scooping up something that looks delicious, and somebody is coughing. No good or some kids are sneezing. The sneeze guard is only somebody's trying to clear their throat right over the food, and I just give them the dick eye, and I'm like, why are you here? You are ruining this for everyone. Keep your germs to yourself. I almost want to like just put my plate down and just walk out.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

Or they drop, I've seen so many people drop the entire spoon serving spoon into the dish, and I'm like, why does this keep happening? 800 people have touched this today.

SPEAKER_09 37:37

Yeah, that too. What are we doing? Why did you do that? Anxiety, man.

SPEAKER_06 37:40

Also, how hard is it everybody out there to just do things a normal way that isn't home in Germany?

SPEAKER_02 37:46

They can't do it.

SPEAKER_06 37:47

I mean, obviously, it has proven to be impossible for our society. This is this is gonna be a little bit of a soapbox, but since we're bitching about things, we I go to movies with buddies every Monday. So every Monday we go to the movie.

SPEAKER_05 37:58

The movies suck.

SPEAKER_06 37:59

No. Two last week we went to Fox Tower in downtown Portland, and we were these two people sat in front of us and talked the whole time. What the hell? Deeply rude. We asked them to stop. Like deeply rude.

SPEAKER_05 38:10

What movie was it?

SPEAKER_06 38:11

It was the uh Jason Siegel movie Over Your Dead Body. Okay. Um a dark comedy. It was okay, but still a dick movie. They absolutely ruined the experience. They knew they were doing it. I had a little tiny confrontation with this person in the bathroom. Then I went to a movie last night at um Lloyd Center, and we were in the big movie.

SPEAKER_05 38:30

Wait, wait, wait. What kind of confrontation? You just kind of brushed over this. A mini conversation. Okay, so it's a rolling question, but you piss shitty.

SPEAKER_06 38:36

As soon as soon as the movie was done, like the second the credits came on, he stood around and goes, Hey, sorry, I'm ruined your night. And then they walked out. And like they had been like, so like obviously that's bullshit. I'd have started a fight. And we could tell during the movie that the noises they were making and stuff was performative because early we had asked them, we had the temerity to ask them to stop.

SPEAKER_05 38:58

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 38:58

And so he like we had asked very closely in the bathroom. I was like, hey man, you were sitting right in front of us, right? And he goes, Uh yeah, I guess so. And he was a little nervous at first. I go, Yeah, thanks for like ruining our night and um like doing it on purpose. And he's like, You thought we were doing that on purpose? Like even on this whole soapbox about how I was like you're not the center of the universe, and I don't know.

SPEAKER_09 39:18

And be like, bro, what does it feel like to be dumb?

SPEAKER_06 39:21

I know. It's well, it also just like I felt stupid because hey, like, no matter how people behave, I don't want to be the person who is shitty to people. Right. Like, oh I do yes, this guy was an absolute piece of shit, and he deserved a couple of little bad things to happen to him. But that's not really for me to I'm not here to dole out of the stuff. Maybe he stepped on some Legos or something.

SPEAKER_03 39:43

No, bring back shame. We'll need to know when they're still.

SPEAKER_06 39:46

But I didn't I didn't walk away feeling like he learned a lesson or like felt like he saw other people, and the proof of it was we went to a movie last night at Lloyd's Center, the same pair were in the row down the row from us. Exact same. So we moved because we had we're in a big enough theater. Because you already know away from them. And the person in the row behind them had to move down the aisle. That is infuriating. It was like it ruining two weeks in a row of movies.

SPEAKER_09 40:13

So this is what this is what would happen if I was in your seat.

SPEAKER_06 40:15

I and I said, please let me live vicariously through your video.

SPEAKER_09 40:18

I said, Hey buds, you're kind of ruining this for everybody. We paid money to come see this show. Got some snacks. I just want to watch a show. Can y'all keep it down or keep your opinions to yourself until after? And if they kept it going, I'd have been that little kid on an airplane kicking the back of their seat over and over and over if they wouldn't shut up. You're like, if you're gonna make me miserable, I'm gonna make you miserable and I'm gonna make you look dumb.

SPEAKER_06 40:41

The move I should have done that was available to me, because I don't think even I could be, I think you could absolutely be kicking the back of the seat. Oh, I love that. I think there are different maybe different rules for me. But what I should have done. I should have gotten up and walked and sat next to them and talked in like a normal voice. Hey, what are we talking about? And just made it a scene. No, just for the phone numbers. It wasn't like quick enough or bold enough in the moment because that would have been sort of like.

SPEAKER_07 41:06

That sounds like what I probably would have done. These two are much more direct. Well, I admire that. I do too.

SPEAKER_06 41:14

I admire people that are able to I I like I am jealous of your confidence.

SPEAKER_07 41:19

Well, I probably would have gone the same route as you and just been like, okay, if this is what we're doing, let's do it.

SPEAKER_06 41:24

So I ended up calling him a piece of shit and inevitably like get you know having an unsatisfying two weeks of experience.

SPEAKER_05 41:33

No, the problem is, dude, what you're not realizing here, nobody's realizing these were movie perverts. This is what they like to do. They don't care about the movie, they want someone to approach them and so that they can just be like, man, they went home and had crazy weird sex after that. That's their kink.

SPEAKER_07 41:50

I think that's what you're thinking.

SPEAKER_06 41:52

All I know about these people supports that thesis a hundred percent. Would make total sense, actually.

SPEAKER_05 41:57

Yeah, totally. Did you hear when I laughed? I laughed at that part that was not funny.

SPEAKER_06 42:01

Yes, there was a lot of that. There was a lot of overlaughing perverts.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

Fucking perverts.

SPEAKER_07 42:08

I hate so much. I don't have a problem with perverts, but I have a problem with that kind of movie pervert.

SPEAKER_05 42:14

That's actually pretty bad.

SPEAKER_09 42:15

Don't ruin my experience. Go, go do you, but damn.

SPEAKER_02 42:19

Bring back kink shaming. No, don't know everything. No.

SPEAKER_06 42:25

That's why I have that shirt that says I'm pro-real pervert. And I just leave it, I'll leave it unexplored. I love that.

SPEAKER_02 42:31

Non-consensual, yeah. Bring back non-consensual kink shaming. But the problem is that's non-consensual. I don't want to be in a weird kinks.

SPEAKER_05 42:40

It involves making other people feel bad without their consent at all. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:43

But shame requires sort of a societal norm, a set of rules that we've all agreed on, and for people to violate them, then society turns its back on those people. But we moved last night to the back of the theater, and there was like a 60-year-old couple. They talked the whole fucking time. Are you serious? We had to move again to avoid like it's just like there are no rules. Were they spies? I don't know. They got up with I think they got up with like five minutes left in the movie. They walked to the back as if they were like not in the theater anymore and just started, not even the pretense of being quiet, they just talked at normal volume.

SPEAKER_11 43:15

Very good.

SPEAKER_05 43:17

This is fucked up, dude. You're going to enough movies where you're seeing like the worst behavior of movie people. It's always a like movie.

SPEAKER_06 43:23

Monday nights we go because specifically we know people are not going to be there. But if there's like a Marvel movie or some sort of big event movie that brings out the masses, the unwashed masses, they're we're like, oh fuck. These people do not know how to be in public or be in a theater. Um you shouldn't. But the thing is they do know. Everybody fucking knows.

SPEAKER_07 43:42

That's the thing that bothers me about this. Like, listen, I understand that we're suffering the death of the movie theater. I understand that we're suffering the death of this shared experience of sitting in a place quiet together. I get that that is happening.

SPEAKER_09 43:58

However, how never

SPEAKER_07 44:00

You still know how to do it. You fucking grew up doing it. Of course you know how to do it. You grew up doing it. Yeah. Like just don't be a dick big. Actually, it's a really special thing that so many of us are still going to the theater. So maybe, maybe don't be a dick. I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 44:14

I think we should start bringing uh water bottles like how we spray our cats when they get on the counter. And then you just be like, because it can go pretty far depending on which one you got. They look very accurate. I love the spray. And then maybe a little hydrochloric acid. They'd be like, what the hell keeps happening? And you just keep putting it down and you're watching the show and you look at them like, oh I'm sorry, what's going on?

SPEAKER_07 44:34

Yeah. All right, so to a little bit more pissing charges, maybe we just do a little bit of vinegar instead of high calories.

SPEAKER_05 44:41

That's the thing is like Or a little bit of your own piss.

SPEAKER_09 44:43

You know, here's we're back we're back into jail time. We're back into jail time, bud. It's illegal. It's on somebody's property.

SPEAKER_07 44:51

At the beginning of the movie, it's water, but by the end of it. I think that's non-consensual kink. Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:57

Oh, I'm gonna yell, do you like this piss? And then if they say no, I'll stop.

SPEAKER_06 45:01

Sometimes I think that person actually needs like an open-handed slap to the face. I know what I said. These people have never visualized it. Exactly. There's there is a there is something that's missed. Like, and I'm I'm uh adamantly anti-violence. So like I that I I'm fine that we no longer live in a world where that's possible, but something is missed right there for this particular kind of person who like a tiny thumping might just like put them back on track.

SPEAKER_07 45:28

I hear you. It kind of makes me want to re Do you guys remember like the dork stamp thing that people would do where they'd hit you right here? No, and their fingers. Did you grow up out here? Was this a regional? I grew up in Montana, but I knew people here that grew up with it too, so I know it's not just a Montana thing. People would just walk up and poke people in the forehead. Yeah, just dork stamp. And that shit would make me so mad.

SPEAKER_09 45:52

It makes me want to fight.

SPEAKER_07 45:53

Make you enough to make the right people want to fight.

SPEAKER_09 45:56

I don't like getting bonked in the face or surprised with a slap to the face. That shit makes me go from zero to five thousand, and I'm like, somebody's gonna die today, and it's not me.

SPEAKER_06 46:06

The person who bonks you in the head, they've they've underestimated the rage that they made a horse.

SPEAKER_09 46:11

Tiny package, big rage. I'm working on it, but you know, I haven't gone to jail yet, so I think I'm doing pretty good. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 46:17

Not a jury in the world would convict you. You know, I'm telling you that. Are pretty precious.

SPEAKER_09 46:22

It's the cheeks. They said I'd grow into them, but I never did.

unknown 46:28

Bing.

SPEAKER_06 46:29

Violently boopable. Unfortunately. Um well, since we're just riding this wave of emotion, let's jump into another song because there's uh there's a lot of emotion to express. Um tell us a little bit about the second one.

SPEAKER_09 46:44

The second one is Moonbeam Girl. The second one, I had help from a buddy, CC Ireland, to uh write this song because Camille and I were getting married. And Camille is the songwriter of of the twos of us, and so I wanted to do something really special, and I wrote a song for our wedding day, and I sang it.

SPEAKER_07 47:04

And um sang it to me while I was seated in a throne situation in front of 250 of my closest friends and family. Oh, yeah. Um if you want to see a video of me ugly crying, it definitely exists in the world. Um I have actually somewhere a video someone took of just me watching because they felt like that was the right thing to do, and God love them.

SPEAKER_06 47:34

What a document.

SPEAKER_07 47:34

Um, yeah, and so anytime we perform this song, I will actively tell the audience that yeah, it made me ugly cry. Um harder than I ever have in public, and um it was very precious, and it was like the best wedding present while also simultaneously highly embarrassing me at my wedding.

SPEAKER_06 47:56

What are weddings for, if not that exact concoction of emotions? Well, I can tell you, you probably played the song hundreds of times by now and together, but there is still a little a little of that magic there. Like you can tell it's like it's a special thing, you can tell it's meaningful um in the way you you deliver it, but also just in the performance generally. So I'm excited for people to hear this one because I think they'll they'll pick up on that.

SPEAKER_03 48:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 48:18

Let's give it a spin.

SPEAKER_10 48:55

Your voice ripples like poetry, and your kiss feels like the boat Julette, your spirits from mother tree, oh baby's back, and that will never be never spends oil. I travel through time and space, and I battle through and spirit sound just to see that smile.

SPEAKER_07 52:58

I'm certain that this is not all of the beer that you brought.

SPEAKER_02 53:01

I should have brought alcohol next time I'm coming, I'm bringing two alcohols. Two alcohols? Two alcohols. No less than already.

SPEAKER_05 53:10

It's hard to know because we do the show on Tuesdays at 7 p.m. Yeah. So it's like should I drink beer? You never know. Sometimes people ask. Sometimes I don't. I'm not gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_07 53:24

I just assumed. That's fair. That's fair. But that's because we've hung out.

SPEAKER_06 53:32

Okay, I want to ask you guys, you've you've alluded to something a couple of times that I'm curious about. Um first like the closeness of the listening and how that enriched the harmonies when you were you know going through your education. And the fact that, Camille, you write the songs.

SPEAKER_07 53:49

Most of them, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 53:50

Or, you know, a lot of them. And so one thing that just as a listener, I'm like, to be able to harmonize in the way that you do, beyond the technical capability, there has to be like an emotional reality that you all share. I for me, like it seems that way. Like it must be that way because of the way that it it meshes it's more than just the technical, it's something else there. So, how do you how do you like absorb Camille's emotional reality in order to be able to deliver that kind of vocal performance? Like, how do you come to agree on what the song is about emotionally such that you can channel that through your vocals?

SPEAKER_09 54:26

Camille is really good at describing emotions and feelings. Um Camille is a keeper of words, a poet, a writer, not just of songs, um is really, really good at yeah, pinpointing exactly what they're trying to get across, and exactly um a snapshot of a feeling or an experience or um a moment in time. And then we're able to like listen to what Camille has presented, add little lines here and there, or words or phrases or experiences to us that are important that we're like you're creating the snapshot, and then this is what this is what I hear also. This is what this is uh something that I thought of, or this is an experience I've had that this made me think of, and we kind of like tie these in, and um Hannah, thank goodness, is really good at um a guitar and bass. And so Hannah's able to also not only bring the harmonies and the song building, but um is able to do the fancy shit on the strings, and so is able to flush out the sound um more in depth than Camille and I can when it comes to strings. And so it's like a this whole beautiful group effort of things. Or I'll say, like, hey, you say that and I think of the color green, or you say that and I think of I don't know. Yeah, it's a it's a whole flow thing. It's a back and forth. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:12

What if you guys wrote like a whole novel and then went and deleted every other sentence? Do you think it would still read the same way? Or do you think it would be fucked up? Let's do it.

SPEAKER_07 56:23

I I mean hilariously, I used to I did spend time in a former life as a poet and uh used to do exercises like that just to see what happens, because you know, poetry you get to kinda do whatever the fuck you want. And um I love experiences like that. Like you get sometimes a completely opposite meaning of where you started. It's really cool. Um I think maybe it's important to let listeners know who might not know us. I mean you guys know who we are, but um the relationships between us I think really are foundational to how we sing together. So um Ash and I have been married for eight years together for almost 10. The time is weird, yeah. And uh and we met Hannah at an open mic. Do you want to tell this story, Hannah?

SPEAKER_02 57:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 57:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

So I moved here in 2017. It was probably 2018 when this finally happened, I think. Um, because it was the end of 2017. And I found this open mic um at Ranger Station. That was such a lit open mic in 2018. R ID Ranger Station. Oh gosh, it was so cool back then. Um and I met so many cool people in the music scene that like really changed my life. I didn't know anyone when I moved here, and I literally I'm not shy. So I just got on stage and I like played my little songs, and then I was like, hey, I just moved here, I don't have any friends, I want friends, and I want to play in bands. So, like, I need friends. But also I'm from California, so like when people are nice to me directly, it's like kind of confusing because I usually think, like, what are you trying to do? Are you gonna wear my skin? Are you gonna kill me? Are you gonna are you gonna stab me in the back? Are you gonna, you know, whatever. Um, so I went up to the bar and Camille walked up to me and she was like, We're gonna be best friends.

SPEAKER_05 58:16

And I'd like to wear your skin. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:17

Oh, I didn't want to. I was like, Oh, okay. Well, because like I was expecting people to be like, hey, that was cool. We should jam together, we should hang out. She was like, We're they were like, we're gonna be best friends. And I was like, Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_07 58:31

I did not start that way. This is how she remembers the story. That is not what happened.

SPEAKER_02 58:35

When we said that, I was like, wow, no one's ever said that to me before. Well, you can't look for that.

SPEAKER_07 58:41

So what happened was from my perspective, and Ash remembers this as well, so I think Hannah's remembering the highlights. Um, I walked up to her because she had performed with uh someone we do not speak of. Um, and but we were really excited to see another couple performing. Yeah, besides with Baltimore. I said, you know, I started with, oh my gosh, how fantastic is this music that you guys just made, blah blah blah. I think we're gonna be besties. Like in a, you know, in a cute like couples that make me. It's crazy. It works when you say it.

SPEAKER_05 59:18

When I say it, people are like, this guy over here will not stop talking how he wants to be my best friend. You're asked to leave immediately.

SPEAKER_07 59:25

Andy, I feel like that's how you and I made friends, though.

SPEAKER_05 59:27

It is pretty close to exactly how we made friends. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:31

But no, um it makes so much sense now, you know, knowing who you are and how you interact with people, and like obviously you were right.

SPEAKER_07 59:37

Obviously, but it's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 59:39

You know, coming from like spending a lot of time in LA and stuff, I was like, is this a threat? You did look kind of scared. I just I but I but I was down as soon as you were like, we should hang out. We I went over to your house and I was like, Holy shit, this person's so cool. I want to do everything with them all the time.

SPEAKER_07 59:57

And here we are. And here we are. She actually sang our uh first dance song at our wedding.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:03

Yes, it was all good. What was it?

SPEAKER_07 1:00:06

What was the song? Was it an original or was it a uh cover? I belong to you by uh Brandy Carlisle. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:13

Also very gay. So gay.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:16

Also, I know this is this is bold to me to say, but I'd like to thank all of you for coming out on our podcast.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:22

We're so happy to be here.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:23

After eight years of gay marriage.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:25

Uh and and how many months of trying to schedule with each other and life getting in the way? Oh my gosh. How long have we been trying to do this? That's true. This is like we are persistent. I'm proud of every single one of us.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:37

Well, imagine if we'd if like we had just teased this out over a calendar year and then we there was no chemistry at all, and we had nothing to talk about. So funny. It would have been amazing.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:47

I knew that at least Andy and I could carry the interview. I was already set on that because Andy and I have now had time since that point when we decided we were gonna be besties, that we have hung out and chatted for hours at a time. So I was like, fine, Andy and I've got it if nothing else. I don't know who this Drew guy is, but I guess he's probably fine.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:06

Also cool, it turns out. Also cool, it turns out. Uh, I've got my mom, but there are times in these situations where someone is very I'm not gonna say strangely, but only because I think some things about you are strange. But like the vibe they catch together is like so specifically the same that I do feel like I'm a little bit of a third whale. Okay, it happens every once in a while. It's great, it's a it's a great uh listening experience, but sometimes there's you know what's fantastic, Drew, is that you are actually keeping us on track, which we really appreciate. Yeah, I'm I'm the metronome very much, which is fine.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:39

You know when you're not here. We stopped doing shows without Drew because I cannot do this show without it's a hot mess. There's no interview again.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:48

Our powers combined, we can do this live. It's possible.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:52

There's been many times where I've been like, I got this, Nate, and I do not got this.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:59

Yeah, it's pretty much what it is. It defunts Taco Bell pretty much.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:02

And then me going, uh, for a long time. A lot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:07

You know, it was I what I love about that story especially is I was uh I made a uh platonic male friend last year and we met at a bar and we just struck up a conversation. Usually I don't like to be approached at a bar. I like I literally had a book, so I wasn't looking at it, but I was put out a vibe because I also got hit on by someone someone else that night, too. So something was going right. It's making friends and getting numbers. Were you wearing like a large fur headpiece? No, I was just you'll never believe it, anyway. You've never been touched more crew neck uh sweatshirt.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:37

Wait, what book were you reading?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:39

You rocked that pretty hard.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:40

I was uh yeah, I mean did you have a chain on over it? I did. I did have a chain. I was reading um Chronic City by Jonathan Latham. Oh, and yeah. In any case, we made friends, we had a nice conversation that night, exchanged numbers, and we'd agreed to like hang out like kind of like once a month. And so we we met once and had and then we were like, oh, this was fun, let's do it again. The second time hung out, I thought it was fine, ghosted me afterwards. I hit him up. I hate that shit. It's what happened, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:07

It's like do you think that actually he wanted to fuck?

SPEAKER_06 1:03:11

No, because that's cool too, but like do you think that he was like, Yeah, I know we said that, but uh he did ghost me, which you know, not not great, but what had happened was he was um exploring an open marriage at the time. Oh and he was describing, I think, one of the first people that he had been in like an extra marital kind of thing with. And after a couple of times hanging out and checking in with him on that, I was like, is it this person? And like it was this person, it was someone that I knew, and I was like, I think this is the person that this is. And so I think that's complicated, right? He was crossing worlds, which were there was no judgment on my part, we were just having conversations of the five.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:51

But he was looking for a completely normal.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:54

Yeah, he wanted like a soundboard, a sounding board about you know, he didn't want any anyone to have a stake in this. I think it's a good thing. I I doubt you're in the huge fan. It turns out he'd like the show before.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:06

I've still got his number.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:09

I did not, you know, if we if we reconnect over this.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:11

Send him in a little text with the link, be like, talked about you.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:15

Thinking of you, boo. And that little kissy face emoji.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:23

That's how I say it.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:24

I'm sorry that happened to you, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:26

It's awkward. It's cool, man. But I mean, I think it's just a testament to how nice it is when it when it when it clicks, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:32

It's not everybody needs to get along all the time.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:34

Yeah, I mean seriously. I I'm lucky to have a lot of really good people in my life and a lot of good friends. It's just nice sometimes to have a new perspective, I think, too.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:43

That's why I think you need to get into the bowling community.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:45

I love bowling. I would I would absolutely bowl, but you I I don't know. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:49

With or without bumpers. Oh, no bumpers. No bumpers.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:53

I do not gutter ball. The gutter ball is it's off the table.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:56

Oh, so you're good at bowling? I'm pretty good. Oh, no, you're pretty good at bowling.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:59

Oh, see, no, I'm not great. I'm dramatically bad. I think I found where we're gonna hang out the first time. Yep.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:05

Do you have your own bowling ball that you take to bowling out there?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:08

I do have my own bowling ball because when I was in high school, I did play in like a weekend league and you got a ball, but my fingers are now too fast.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:15

What color is it?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:16

It's green.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:16

It's like a I've seen purple with those really cool flakes in it.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:20

I might do a purple now, but at the time, green is like um, you know how when you have a favorite thing and it doesn't matter if your taste change, you're just like categorically that's your favorite color.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:29

And you're like, if I get something besides green, people are gonna go, what's up?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:32

Well, it's not you're right. I would blow people's minds with the blue. But no, just green is like my category favorite, even if I like other colors better as I, you know, change.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:42

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:43

Yeah. I like to tell uh kids. I tell kids they can have more than one favorite color. So now a lot of kids when I ask them what their favorite color is, they say rainbow. That's the cheat code.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:54

Love a cheat code.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:55

That's gay.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:55

It is gay.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:57

You you tell 'em it's gay when you when they tell you that.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:00

Well, they're gay children, so it makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:02

Then they're stoked about it. Yeah, though not an instant.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:05

That's kind of the whole point. I definitely spent some time when I first came out being stoked on anything rainbow all the time.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:12

Yeah, it's it's also it's awesome. There's all kinds of good colors in there.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:16

I can't say much has changed actually. I literally named my band complimentary colors. So I built in colors into the whole thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:26

Well, rainbow's really difficult to argue with, right? I mean I've I've seen about three Rambos this year that are just like the most vivid poppin' rainbows I've ever seen. You just like you can't and like if I was once the most recent one, I was at a patio bar and it was like on in Montevilla or whatever it was, and everyone in the street just like stops and just is like everyone is like looking up like a hundred people. It's like an alien invasion, except it's like this beautiful rainbow. Yeah. And then it hailed.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:56

No, probably there are always weird days, weird weather days when a rainbow shows up.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:01

I love it when you get like crazy weather in town where it's like seven different seasons and all at once. Yeah. That's pretty great.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:09

One of my favorite things is when it's really sunny out, but it starts sprinkling in such a light misty way that it just sparkles. Yep. Or that's my favorite.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:21

Just about dusk, and the clouds rolling in are really dark, but like the light is still really bright. You get this weird, like sepia tone world. Absolutely. Oh, it's so crazy.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:31

And you get the like outlines on the clouds and shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:34

It's so cool. Well, like four out of the six of us come from the Midwest. And so, like being here, I never feel more West Coast than like magic hour in the summertime facing west when there's there's hills in the background. Absolutely. I'm like, this is what my like 10-year-old brain thought the West Coast was was just like this beautiful sunset.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:54

I thought it was just everybody surfs, like everywhere.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:58

Everybody surfs or they're a cowboy.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:00

It's funny, Anna, when you're talking about Or they're in like a cool gangster rap crew and they've got a hill rider. I thought that was a really cool West Coast, too. That's the other West Coast I really like.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:10

Like you the lived insanity of uh LA and California, but like from for Midwestern kids, we were like, fuck California.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:18

It's brown and flat, and the only pretty parts are what they put on TV. It just yeah, it just always like it really isn't. I was really surprised.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:28

But not where you were.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:30

I thought all of California gets cooler, yeah. Like cool surfing and crazy, and then I went there and I was like, oh, they have rednecks here too? Yeah, they're everywhere. There's rednecks everywhere.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:40

And I was very shocked to find that. Coming from Montana, like I grew up for the first 12 years of my life in one of the blue places, Butte, Montana, and then went middle school and high school in a very red place, Big Timber, Montana. And uh Butte is on the continental divide, big mountains. I went skiing all week, winter long with my grandpa.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:06

There's a school there, so you get a little like.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:19

I went to Butte one time and I stayed at this hotel and we got up in the morning and went to breakfast, and the fucking wallpaper of the place was roadmaps of like my area that I grew up in in Michigan. All of it was just roadmaps repeating everywhere, and everyone in the fucking restaurant was staring at us and was giving us the stink eye for so long, and we ate all of our food, and they all kind of like slowly left like angrily, and somebody walked up and was like, We're all waiting for you in the bus. And we're like, We're not on your bus, dude. And they were like, What? We've been waiting for you this whole time to finish your food. You ordered your food like right when we were all about to ready to leave.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:58

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:58

And I was like, that makes sense. You were taking it all the time. We are all going to die. Me and my wife were just like, you're getting carrying the city. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:12

You you ate all of your food and you you you didn't like be like, can I just get this to go? This is fucking weird.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:19

Because like I the waitress came by at one point and was like, Would you like some more coffee? And I was like, sure. And somebody went, and stormed up. And it was like, what you're like at the Truman show. People were like rooting you up. And we were moving out west for the first time, and we had a cat in the room that we weren't supposed to have because we've been sneaking our cat into all the hotel rooms. So part of me was like, These motherfuckers know I have a cat. This is all about the cat. We gotta just keep it cool. And then it was the bus thing, and I was like, that's actually infinitely weirder. Very weird.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:48

Okay, I have to finish the story though, because if I don't, the you're gonna get complaint letters. It's we don't need those kinds of comments. Yeah, I can't take that here. So uh I moved from mountainous part of Montana to a much flatter part. Like um, there's mountains off in the distance, but it's it's starting to become prairie area. And uh when I was leaving there, lived in Missoula for a while back in the mountains, but I needed to go somewhere bigger, and I was like, I need mountains though. I gotta have mountains. And Portland was about the least mountainous I could handle for any period of time. This is this is the threshold because I can still, if I look the right direction, get myself a view of mountains with sky, like everything worked out. Portland's perfect for that.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:38

This is the the Goldilocks zone. It does have everything you want and like one to two hours in any direction. That's true. Even like desolate desert, if you're into that, you can go there too.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:49

Yep. Yeah. I I've I've recently discovered, although that I've spent a lot of time in beautiful natural areas, that I'm I'm I'm like a like a city mouse. Because I I went I went like a hike a couple weeks ago and I'm just not a huge fan of hiking, but it's obviously a beautiful place to be. But I felt like howlingly lonely out there. I just get like really like I guess it's kind of an anxiety, but when I'm out of like uh an urban area, I start to get like whoa, um like being in the deep ocean, is like it has that same feeling, you know, or like space. Like stepping off the continent, I just feel like I feel unmoored, I guess. I'm not uh I'm not cut out for the wild.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:27

That makes sense. I feel like it's good.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:30

I feel like it's good every once in a while to go out somewhere big like that to remind yourself how tiny and in the significant you are. But yeah, it can be kind of uh depressing staring into the gaping maw of death.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:41

Okay, I mean gr I grew up uh my place in Butte was on a hundred and thirty-ish acres. And so I grew up like completely isolated and it I'd go into town for school, but like nobody would come out to hang out because we were 30 minutes from town, like we were way the hell out there, and it's now at this point in my life really made me love Portland for the same reason because I can be in Portland, but I can also go to stay in the woods just like home. I I need both is what it finally made me realize. I need to have the option of both because I I lived in big cities at other times and I can't do that alone all the time in a way.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:28

So you're when you're growing up like that, like literally in the middle of like the big sky, like the true big sky country on 120 acres, like where where does music enter your life? Like what what was like your conduit to music when you are somewhat isolated from cities where a lot of people are you know sharing music? Like where where does that start for you?

SPEAKER_07 1:13:49

Um radio and a lot of radio, actually. Um as silly as that sounds, like it was the same for me, for sure. Um my parents really liked certain bands, so I grew up with like a lot of CCR and uh Fleetwood Mac, Elton John, things like that, which are a really cool I don't know, foundation for what our music is now, if you think about it. Um but yeah, it was just kind of what I was exposed to, and then when I was uh in the second or third grade, um a music teacher paid attention to me because I could sing and I was really into music classes and whatever, um, back when music class was for everybody all the time. When they had them, yeah. Yeah, um, and uh there was a musical theater production going up in the f um former Fox Theater. They had turned it into a public community theater called the Motherland Theater, and it's this gorgeous Pruscanium March Theater. They had just finished the renovations and they decided they were gonna do a community theater production of Annie, and um she helped orchestrate me being able to audition, and I'd stay at her house some type of nights after rehearsal because my parents obviously couldn't go back and forth that much, and um musical theaters where I got into it and uh started taking um music lessons from her and going deep into that. In a former life I was uh um a professional theater performer.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:31

Well that's a great way to like be able to infuse emotion into singing. Like you you know, you kind of came up putting those two things together.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:40

Um I almost always get asked when we go touring, almost every stop, somebody asks me, You did theater, didn't you? Yeah, yeah. Is it that obvious?

SPEAKER_06 1:15:52

Um Ash, Hannah what about the the two of you? Like Ash, where did you like what was the first thing that made you want to be a musician?

SPEAKER_09 1:16:01

Hmm. I love to mimic artists. I've always had a decent uh I got lucky starting out with a decent voice without really having to work out it. Um but then I had a few voice lessons from someone um privately when I was, I don't know, like ten. Um, but it it was because I was uh a part of the choir in the Baptist church that I was in. Not my favorite time of my existence, but that's where that's where singing together, like being a unit and like having everyone's different flavor of um sound and skill level and all of us harmonizing together and like the power together. Like that was like my first intro to like dynamics, yeah. But I was really young when I started there, so I didn't really fully learn how to describe what I was hearing, yeah. Um, but that's where I fell in love with um yeah, just group sound together and learning how to blend.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:07

It's amazing how many people come to music through church, just like we all have church music backgrounds.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:15

That's how I came to podcasting, too.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:16

Recovered that's my choir background. We're all recovered fundamentalists, actually. The kidding.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:22

Yeah, I mean it's like part of our journey and part of what makes us all so close. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:26

I got kicked out of choir because I got a mohawk and they were like, fuck that, you're out.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:32

Oh, they sound lame.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:33

They were like, You can't you can't be in the Grand Rapids choir of men and boys without the prescribed haircut. I was like, it's hot, it's summer, fuck you guys, I'm out. Got a mohawk. Andy's just all the way down, you know. Came straight to podcasting.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:47

Yeah. That seems right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:50

Hannah, what about you? What was your first uh like musical sort of connection?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:55

Well, my my family's really musical. Um the Demo Fettoes are musical. It's my full last name, but I go by Hannah Demo. Um my mom is a piano teacher and a voice teacher and a choir teacher in public schools, and my dad sang and was a singer-songwriter. Uh, but they were also very religious, so I I grew up in church and my f I took a lot of voice and piano lessons growing up, and I thought that's just what kids did. I didn't find out until I got older that you don't go home and just practice your scales. That's just a thing that only certain kids do. I was like, you guys don't have like music time before bed? They were like, no. It's like, oh cool, cool, weird. Um but yeah, I my first time on stage was uh in the in the church in originally Minn and I and then Baptist and part of part of being on stage and um feeling what you were talking about, the connection and like how emotional that feeling can be. And that's you know, I was like, wow, I'm really feeling the spirit of God move through me. And I was like, no, I just think actually, now that I've gone to other concerts that weren't at mega churches and Baptist churches, I think it was just the music. I think it's just being at a concert and like being a part of a concert, being on stage. That's just really good stuff, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:15

Yeah, that feeling of what everybody experiences together but separately.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:19

We've talked to people who have come up in like church backgrounds with music. Did you guys have sick ass gear?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:25

Oh yeah, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:26

I feel like every church has like the craziest stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:29

The Baptist mega church? Hell yeah. I was a Baptist church. I did that for way too long, even after I was like, I don't really think I'm a Christian anymore. But I really like being on this big ass stage with this super. I love these monitors. This production value is through the roof. I'm not gonna get this anywhere else.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:44

Yeah, for the church that I was at in uh Big Timber and sang in their worship team for a long time. It was the only church that did any kind of amplified music. It's a teeny tiny town, but still like microphones, and my buddy had his drum kit, and you know, it was like a whole thing. Yeah, and that was definitely a huge part of the appeal.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:05

Yeah. Mine was Baptist in the woods. Oh, like we oh, yeah. So scary. Yeah, it was. It was special. Um it definitely had microphones, you know, and people could plug in, but it was like really minimal sound setup, and it was like, really lovely, unadorned voice.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:23

I think maybe that's your roots. You just like have a very nice to project.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:27

Yeah. Um Ash came up with the tutelage of Dolly Parton.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:31

I did. Dolly Parton's my fucking Shiro, and she's never allowed to die. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:37

She's got the easiest voice, not the easiest to sing, but just the way it comes out of her is just like it's like technically. She's hardly trying it now. She's flowing. She's barely like her mouth is barely open. I watched a video of her just today. She was like John Johnny Carson, and she did a gag where she did a verse of her song, and then she did it like as if the record was on 78 RPM or whatever. And I was just fucking incredible. But just how easy it was, and then when she doubled the tempo or whatever, I mean, just that as a uh an avatar is just like yeah, yeah, she's the best.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:09

Dolly's amazing.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:11

I could I could count the ways, but these two have already heard me say it multiple times. And Dolly's just amazing. I get as a little bit of a little reminding people. Have you ever got a chance to go to the world? Yes, I have. I grew up in Indiana, so we went down to Dolly World.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:28

I drove by this.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:30

Dolly Wood? What did I say? Dolly World. Well, in Gatlin Burke, don't tell Dolly.

unknown 1:21:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:35

The whole Dolly Bell. Always wanted to go there. It looks awesome.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:38

It's a good time, and the food's good.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:40

It actually is pretty fun down there.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:42

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:43

You're near this great smoky mountains. We were in Gatlinburg and we were on a Smoky Mountains tour. So we were mostly camping and hiking, and I was very young with my family. But I was like, I want to go to Dollywood, and they were like, not this time. And I never got to go back.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:57

That's a shame. Well, at one point in that park, and I don't remember where it is, I just very vividly remember um this is the first time I got personally introduced to it. The person that looks like a statue, and all of a sudden they reach down and touch someone, or if someone's posing with them, they put their arm around it, and I was like, I have never seen anything like this. That man looks like a bronze statue, and I'm like, I just stopped and I watched him like scare people in real time, and I would just like giggle knowing it's about. I was like, Oh, they have no idea, they have no idea. And then he would get him, and then I would just be like, This is the best place in the world.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:33

I remember the first time I saw one, but I was like 19, and I was had the same exact reaction. I was just like, What? He looks just like a statue. You never you only get one chance to get those statue guys cleaned to get duped by art.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:45

You know, I saw a really good statue guy in San Francisco down at Fisherman's Wharf. Incredible. But I also saw the best street performer in the world, the Bushman.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:57

The Bushman?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:58

No. He is a human bush and he's moves and terrifies people.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:02

I've seen this online.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:03

Oh my god. And it draws a crowd. He got me so bad I almost fell to the ground. Oh my god. Because he just looks like a bush and then he moves ahead of you. He got bush, though. Oh, see? He's got me right now. It's scary.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:13

I like the people that like swing or punch back, and they don't know where they're punching, but some of them really land it like square on his face.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:20

The big problem is it draws a huge crowd. So there's a bunch of people standing there like as you walk up, and it's so embarrassing. Yeah, I know. It's pretty good. The guy's got a real skill.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:31

I'm I come out swinging if I get scared. So I would be one of those people that would end up going viral for decking them because I just I can't help it. I don't I've tried everything. I think that's the right instinct to have.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:44

I think you're built for survival.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:46

Yeah, that's what I like to. I mean, growing up in the woods. Yeah. You know?

SPEAKER_05 1:23:50

My wife is the same, has the same reaction. And when we go to haunted houses, she makes me hold her hand because otherwise she will punch anyone that jumps out.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:58

I have never gone to a haunted house for exactly this reason. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:02

I collapse on the floor in the fetal position. Yeah. It's very funny. I don't know why, but I do. I will drop. It's dangerous. I don't know. That's my fight or flight. I guess I'm on flight.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:12

If I know you're around the corner about to jump out of me, you will still scare me. You go right to freeze response. You're just like done.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:19

Yeah. I'm like make myself small. Less area to kill.

unknown 1:24:23

Yep, that's fair.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:25

Um, well, we do not want to cheat people out of the last song that y'all played because it's a it's a it's a hot jam. Um tell us a little bit about round three.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:33

Hey, anybody out there uh pissed off at the world? Me. Maybe think that things are going kind of shitty.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:42

Anyone think that spoons are for more than just eating soup with?

SPEAKER_07 1:24:46

Ooh, also that. That's an important point. Uh yeah. This is uh this is what my first real attempted kind of a protest song. I would say protest song is a good way. Yeah. Yeah. I am fucking mad at everything. And I think that if we come together, we can fix it, but we have to actually make it do it like we mean it. And so this song is kind of me yelling about that. What's the name of this one? This is called Fever Pitch, and it features Ash on fantastic wooden spoons. It's so so cool.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:27

Yeah, they're awesome. Awesome.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:28

And Hannah on guitar.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:30

Also, I have to say, people are gonna hear this, but listen for the for Hannah's deep. It is another, it's Dolly Partnesque, and the fact that it just sort of comes out of the ether. And it like you you hear no start to it, it's just it's just happening. It's really lovely.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:44

Because most of the time I'm uh on the top. You've probably noticed that as well in the other songs. It's been in here. So this is a good thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:50

Yeah, coming from underneath.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:51

Yeah, underneath. Hannah's been rocking those lower harmonies, and it's been a pretty awesome journey to watch happen.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:56

It's cool, it's awesome. Let's give it a spin.

unknown 1:26:00

One, two, three, four.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:21

The stories of soldiers are crumbling. Everyone can see it. Run before it'll touch down, down, down, and down. Down, down, down, down, down, down. While the eagles enjoy, that's the um made the street bit we wanna knee. And the witch the weeds and the matter we didn't evil bit spending us, bending us, bending us up, standing up down, down, down, down, down, down the down, down, downs with people stole. I'm so damn poor I did not afford to pay attention. They stole me here. We better not waste time in movie. Better grab your kitchen. Oh, it's all good. And the accident be weak when a system of good is tangled up and fighting each other. It's a matter of time before reason and rhyme get way too broken. We can find a way above the bricks on top. Spite the love. All they need's a little shove.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:03

McDonald's breakfast is better than talk about breakfast. Don't be insane.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:07

McDonald's breakfast is like, if you're gonna do fast food breakfast, I feel like it's the only option.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:14

It's so good that you almost don't have to qualify it with the if you have to. You're almost like you're like, wait, I guess I could. And I'm saying that to someone who doesn't really eat fast food breakfast.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:23

What do you mean? What do you mean?

SPEAKER_06 1:29:26

If I were on a first date, I wouldn't be totally embarrassed to say that I ate a McDonald's breakfast.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:32

Wait though, hold on.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:32

You guys are also a Taco Bell breakfast.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:37

Are you saying an egg McMuffin and a hash brown and a bad coffee? No, no coffee.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:43

Or what's what's your what's your order of egg sausage McMuffin, first of all. Great. And two of those hash browns, because those are fucking fire. Definitely two of the breakfast.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:52

Wait, wait, wait, those water hash browns like a bag of hash browns. Breakfast burritos.

SPEAKER_09 1:29:56

I'm a big fan of the breakfast brios with that salsa on top. Absolutely. I get the hot salsa.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:02

Yeah, they've got the McGriddle shit. McGriddle shit. Yeah, dude. Wait, it's all good.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:06

And I get a small diet coke. I don't get a hot feel.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:09

See, I think I usually stick with either the orange juice or sometimes if I'm feeling frisky, I will get half regular iced tea, half sweet iced tea. Because then it's like reasonable sweet, not like I'm gonna rot my teeth out of my head in a small cup. Sweet.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:25

Yeah, you're not mainlining sugar.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:27

I usually make a second stop at a real coffee shop, you know, support your local non-binary barista.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:32

Yes, baby. I'm not opposed to shitty coffee. In fact, I like shitty coffee. Seven level coffee is my favorite coffee.

SPEAKER_09 1:30:41

That makes me have heartburn coffee. How are your insides right now?

SPEAKER_06 1:30:45

My my gut biome is thriving right now. I don't drink it every day, but I do drink I buy um what's it called? Duncan. The grass Duncan coffee, yeah. Okay. We got uh we I recently got like a fancy one because I got it for free. Um and I don't forget what it was. I can't. I'm not gonna endorse them. It tastes like shit. It tastes like fucking garbage. I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:09

Well, you shouldn't have got garbage brand coffee.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:12

Also, even fancy coffee can sometimes be trash. But like it really depends on what kind of coffee we're talking about.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:18

I like a predictable trash, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:20

All you gotta do is spend $12 at the local shop, bro. And get yourself a 16 ounce. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:25

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:26

It's gonna not be great, but it's fine.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:29

That's true. Yeah, and you're right, you're right.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:32

My favorite coffee in town is heart coffee's vanilla cardamom latte. Ooh, that's a real good one.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:39

But it's really cardamom. Is it like a cinnamon?

SPEAKER_07 1:31:42

It's cardamom.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:43

Cardamom cardamom. Heart coffee.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:46

Heart coffee. Oh, heart cardamom. Heart coffee. Cardamom is a like it's more similar to like nutmeg. Oh, nutmeg. It's uh traditionally from India originally, I think.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:00

So it's like on the sweeter side of the spy spectrum.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:04

Sweet worm, kind of in the same category as cinnamon, but like but like not cinnamon, more herbal cinnamon. Yeah, more like more like nutmeg, I would have to say. But yeah, it's um it's wonderful.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:16

Fuck with that.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:17

Okay, question. If you guys were in the studio recording a song, what drink would you have? Camille go.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:26

At this studio right now, I have a Stella. Well, um If you could choose. If I could choose if I had my druthers, I'm I mean, I'm a real sucker for the um your mamma mates with the enlightenment your mamma mate. Yes, I'm a real sucker sucker for it. It's like those are like the most refreshing battle. And it's mid year, right? You're a little hungover, it's perfect. Like yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:52

Do you fuck with the weird one? The weird mint? It's a little sweeter.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:57

I can't. I can't do it. I I'm really I like that the name's weird, but yeah, I would I'll try anything that's labeled weird ones.

SPEAKER_09 1:33:06

But Hannah, what would you choose?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:09

In the studio? Yeah. I feel like I would have to start with like a tea and honey situation.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:16

Well, yeah, but having a fun full day in the studio.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:19

Yeah, but after we do the technically hard shit and we're going to the ad libs, whiskey on the rocks.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:24

Yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:25

I want to get a little goose goosey for the ad libs. Yeah. What about you?

SPEAKER_09 1:33:30

Oh, what about me? Uh let's see. I would probably have a tea and honey situation, but also right next to it, I would probably have some kind of like blended coffee. A large blended coffee.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:42

For me, I would do a a Coors Light. Because I could I could be just, you can just sort of drink them as if they're water and nothing, no, no performance is being impacted, really. Very similar to water, but just a little edge taken off. Because I do I do sing in the band that I'm in, but somewhat reluctantly. I'm I'm functional. But I'm also I'm in a band called Hot Won't Quit. We're like a three-piece like sort of stoner punk, riffy kind of punk band. Oh yeah. Um but I find the studio experience very intimidating from a vocal standpoint. Um and it takes me a long time to uh I don't know if it's like it's like I feel comfortable enough, but like So you need some kind of like a dairy product?

SPEAKER_05 1:34:21

It's just okay, so you start.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:23

I spend so much of my I spend so much of my vocal life not really being able to hear myself very well because I don't have a great PA or whatever the case may be. So being able to hear yourself perfectly and like find like the control zone for what I'm trying to do, take that's the learning curve for me.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:38

Drew I'm gonna give you a little tip here. Please people aren't gonna like this and people aren't gonna tell you this. Am I gonna like it? Your studio drink of choice for that very reason should be a tall glass of room temperature milk, not cold milk. I'm talking phlegm juice. I want this gurgle. I want phlegming. I want you to just fill it out. You want to add that color to my voice. Yeah, like everything. Like cottage cheese. Yeah. Just what we needed. That's what America wants.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:08

That's what I've thought about my punk music. Mmm, if only it were more gurgle.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:12

If only there was a a loogie being born. I wish this guy was spitting a lot more. You know what though? I did see a band recently, um, American Sharks, and the drummer stood up every single in between every song, he would stand up and like like like pace around the stage and spit. And at one time, he definitely spit on his own drum set and then sat back down and played it, and I was like, wow, this guy, this guy is fucking amped. Yeah. I was like, man, I just don't know about spitting in a post-COVID age. I feel real bad if I spit anywhere in public.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:45

I don't I wouldn't do it indoors. No, starting to do it. Start spitting inside.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:48

I was getting home from I was at PDX last week, and this man behind me hawked a giant loogie and I heard it, and I turned around, and he spit on the tile. Oh my god. Like on the way out.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:59

I was just like, I sat behind him at the moon.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:01

I was so pissed off. I almost I almost cussed him out, and I was so tired. I literally pulled my partner aside and I was like, we're going over here, and this man is passing us. I cannot have him behind me. He's spitting in public. Unbelievable. What is wrong with people?

SPEAKER_06 1:36:16

Unbelievable. Wow. Well, that's a great one for this episode, unfortunately. But before we go, we always like to let's let's take off the I want you to open your minds as wide as you possibly can. The most all possibilities are on the table. If you had to pick one piece of complimentary colors ban merch where there were no restrictions on resources, the world is yours, or you could have any kind of merch that you wanted, what would you choose?

SPEAKER_09 1:36:45

Oh my god. Hang on now.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:51

I'm working on it.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:52

Do we have a Jeopardy countdown limit, time limit?

SPEAKER_02 1:36:57

I feel like what would be cool 103 seconds. Um like some of the snapshots of the lyrics that are so important, like for not coping well, like made into art for people to buy.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:09

That's so funny. I've been working on a concept for that quite a while. Um I So I gotta tell you, the first thing that popped into my head literally just a meeting. First idea, best idea. Um tea set?

SPEAKER_06 1:37:28

Okay. Because that's like I like a lovely kettle.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:32

Yeah, like a little like a whole little you're gonna have tea, you're gonna pour it out of the kettle into this beautiful little teapot.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:40

It's gotta be super professional because I'm imagining this is the one you're all sipping on in the studio. Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:46

Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, it would be a replica. That's what we would do. We would that's the okay, resources, uh, not not a problem. We find uh the best tea set before we start recording, which we're about to start doing, so I guess we better start looking. Um we find the best tea set and then we get uh replicas of that, and that's that's one of the things that you can sell as well.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:10

I'd like to have a bespoke tea set like that. That would be really nice. That would be cool. I think people would be into it.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:16

Like I don't know. I love weird merch though. I love to make we used to sell jewelry based on our songs. We're gonna do that again, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:27

I have the teacup. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:29

This doesn't um this isn't like a glove and hand fit necessarily, but one thing that I think would really be really nice for the group would be um complementary colors themed fishing waiters. Like the overall weight like the but like with in whatever colors y'all choose.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:46

And you could get them like in complementary colours, which is yellow in one spot.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:52

You could mix and match, but yeah, you could go fly fishing immediately after seeing y'all alive.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:57

I mean, we do play a lot of like rural Montana gigs, or Ash and I used to anyway. And um, that is not a far crystal places that we have played. No shoves.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:07

The other thing I would love to see for you, we talked about this before the show. I don't think it made it on mic, but a chainsaw.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:13

A chainsaw. Okay, look, when you said that, the first thing that popped in my head was a machete. Ask me why I still know. I and I was like, why would nothing in our song is about machete? Like a shovel for like burying somebody. I've thought about I've genuinely thought about making shovels. Maybe oh my god, okay. Maybe we get one of those like shit shovels where you like unfold it and it's in your like backpacking shit, but it's like complimentary colors, or it has our logo or something on it.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:42

And let's incorporate some of that like greeting card technology where there's a chip that as you unfurl it, it plays one of your songs. So while you're digging your your your shithole.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:52

Also, the second thing that came to my mind after Machete question mark was a board game, kind of like Candylamb.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:59

Oh, that would be fun.

SPEAKER_09 1:40:00

But pertaining to songs like game creation. Yeah. I thought that would be really cool.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:05

Those are I mean, these are all great ideas. This is one of the best little brainstorms we've ever had. You want.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:11

I don't know if we've never actually like put this on like a point scale, but you just won it.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:16

Let's go. We're big nerds. I I don't know, we're all like DD kids.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:20

I'd also just like to see the tour rig that carries around the machetes. Like what kind of sort of like cabinet do you need to like pack away from the case? That's so funny that you should ask. It would be sweet if it was like a 90 house.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:37

You think there's one that's customer? The one next to my bed. Yeah, we could just build in a machete. I know exactly where I would build in the compartment for the machetes.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:44

I was imagining like 90s action movies where they have those wooden crates and they open them and they're all full of guns packed in the city. Well, see it, we'll see the book. But it would just be machetes.

SPEAKER_09 1:40:52

The bed lifts up and there's storage underneath. So that there's a lot of things.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:01

Oh, yeah, the cool thing. Those were like used to be called a machete cabinet, actually. Like you know, back in the city.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:09

Um, well, complimentary colors. This was like more than worth the wait. Uh I'm so glad that we got together. Uh we we're uh we're thrilled uh to have you and uh so grateful that you played some beautiful songs for us and hung out and uh cracked wise with us for for a little bit. Thank you for for doing this. Um unfortunately by the time people hear this, you will have already played here in town this week. But what's the best way for people to keep up with where you're gonna play next and your releases and all those kinds of good things?

SPEAKER_07 1:41:39

Um we've got oh man, I gotta make sure I know the thing. What is our handle? Um comp colors music. Comp colors music on uh Facebook, Instagram. Um Venmo. Venmo. Most importantly.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:54

Yeah, um Venmo is C colors music.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:57

Oh, Venmo is C colors music.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:59

Look at me, remember something.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:00

Yeah, that's the word on the red there. We're we're about to go live with our website, but the best way to find out when we do that is through the Instagram.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:10

Oh, I'm so glad that you're doing a website. I love big websites.

SPEAKER_07 1:42:14

We actually do have a internet, guys. I guess that's where Pimpin, uh, we will for the first time have merch coming out. Yeah, so all you fishermen out there. We've got to be not the waiters, but we will no, this is really exciting because in all the time that Ash and I have had this band, uh, we've never had shirts. So we're gonna have some print-on-demand shirts that you can get. And um we're gonna be putting out one song that we recorded in our living room originally for this, uh, when we had our violinist with us, and then um uh hidden forgotten remix track that somebody made for us a long, long time ago. We're gonna be putting those out in the next few months and um making it available to the masses.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:59

And then, you know, we get getting ready to do some recording, it sounds like a lot on the roadmap.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:04

That's it. And we have our tour vehicle now, so watch out where coming together.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:09

Well, thanks again. This was a blast. I'm really grateful that you're here and able to do this.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:14

Thanks for having us.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:16

Also grateful to our listeners, Andy. Thank you all for tuning in. We hope you enjoyed the hang tonight.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:20

And we hope shout out to all you um mail delivery people out there.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:24

Yeah, specifically, putting those miles on those feet every day.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:27

Turns out that's our main demographic.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:30

Or the the mail person is uh our our key ICP as it works.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:33

Most of them hate listen. They really don't like it. But they're listening, so you know. Shout out to you, you fuckers.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:40

Yeah, thank you for my my my male staff, we have I think like three different people, but they're all great. So I got I got no beef with the male profession. Carry on, I say. Um keep going, male. If you like the music, Andy's about to play a song, and he he finds all of our guests and curates all our music. And if you like his taste, he does an internet radio show on Shady Pines Radio every Friday. It's called Hesh Air with Mr. Tomorrow from six to seven. Check it out each week.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:08

Thanks, Drew. Unless you're a kid, then it's illegal for you to listen. That's right. Even though it's a six to care. I don't adhere to time. Papa Drew doesn't care. Papa Drew will come down on you. You don't want it.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:20

Um you get a little bit more.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:23

Uh this is a band that we talked to at Treefort um a couple of years ago. They're called Zookrat. They're fantastic. Uh they're a great punk band, they have like a really driving rhythm. Some people call them dance punk, but more than anything, it's just like a great time. And uh they have a new album coming out. It's I think out now. It's called Pressure. And uh they're on tour in Europe. So if you're listening to this in like Germany or something, maybe you can see this right now. Uh the song is called Fly Fly, and this is music to light fires too. But like inside your heart or the system.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:00

Wonderful. Uh well, for Camille, Hannah, Ashley, Andy. Just Ash. Just Ash. Oh, I'm sorry. Just Ash. I apologize. I mean, Ash is better, so I'm glad that I was mistaken, but I apologize. Um the one and only Ash of Complimentary Colors. For Andy for Nate, this is Drew. We'll see you next week on Hot Garbage.