Skagway Borough Assembly Meetings

Borough Assembly - March 19, 2026

Season 2026 Episode 5

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  • Call to Order
  • Roll Call
  • Approval of Minutes: 
    • December 14, 2025 
  • Approval of Agenda
  • Reports of Officials and Committees: 
    • Mayor’s Report 
    • Assembly Committee Reports 
    • Treasurer’s Report 
    • Manager’s Report 
  • Communications to the Assembly: 
    • Correspondence 
    • Hear Citizens Present
  • Ordinances, Resolutions, & Proclamations:
    • Public Hearing, Second Reading, and Adoption Ordinance No. 26-02: Amending the FY26 Budget to Provide Funding for Public Works Shop Improvements and Public Works Consolidation Engineering, and Clinic Ultrasound 
    • Public Hearing, Second Reading, and Adoption Ordinance No. 26-03: Amending SMC 4.04 Management of Funds to Update Spending Authority Limits and Other Fund Management Regulations 
  • Unfinished Business: 
    • Review of Assembly Direction Regarding Summaries of Citizens’ Comments in Assembly Minutes 
  • New Business: 
    • Direction for Garden City RV Park for 2027 
    • Approval of Murphy Utility Easement Agreement 
    • Approval of Fee Proposal for Dredge Material Sampling, Characterization, & Reporting 
    • Incinerator Replacement Project 
      • Award of Project Contract 
      • Approval of Construction Administration Services Fee Proposal 
    • Clinic X-Ray Renovations Project
      • Award of Project Contract 
      • Approval of Construction Administration Services Fee Proposal
    • School Rehabilitation Phase 1 Project 
      • Award of Project Contract 
      • Approval of Construction Administration Services Fee Proposal 
    • Rockslide Maintenance Services Project 
      • Award of Project Contract
      • Approval of Construction Administration Services Fee Proposal 
  • Mayor and Assembly Discussion Items
  • Executive Session
  • Adjournment

Packet

Mayor Hanson: [00:00:00] I call to order the Assembly meeting for Thursday, March 19th, 2026. Can I have a roll call, please?

Clerk Burnham: Mayor Hanson.

Mayor Hanson: Present.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Present.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Here.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Present.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Present.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Present by phone.

Mayor Hanson: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Here.

Mayor Hanson: All members present. Quorum is established. Thank you. And jumping back, we respect that we're conducting this meeting on the traditional lands of the Tlingit people. And please rise and salute the flag.

Unknown: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [00:01:00]

Mayor Hanson: Thank you for that. Uh, Assemblymember Weddell.

Assemblymember Weddell: Thank you, Your Honor. I move to accommodate Assemblymember Jay Burnham's remote participation in Assembly meetings while he's receiving medical treatment outside the borough.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Second.

Mayor Hanson: We have a motion by Weddell and a second by Pomeroy to, uh, uh, not count Assemblymember Burnham's telephonic, uh, call-in against his number of times due to his medical treatment. Roll call.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes, and thank you.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: All right. And thank you. And, and sorry for doing things out of order right off the top. I'll try to do better. Moving on to minutes, uh, for [00:02:00] December 4th, 2025.

Assemblymember Weddell: Move for the approval of the minutes of December 4th, 2025.

Assemblymember Hillis: Second.

Mayor Hanson: We have a motion by Weddell and a second by Hillis to approve the minutes from December 4th, 2025. Any additions or corrections to the minutes? Roll call, please.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Moving on to item four, approval of agenda.

Assemblymember Weddell: Move for the approval of the agenda.

Assemblymember Potter: Second.

Mayor Hanson: We have a motion by Weddell, a second by Potter, to approve the agenda. Discussion? [00:03:00] Roll call, please.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Brings us on to item five, reports of officials and committees. Item A, Mayor's report. Uh, I wanna say again, uh, congratulations to, uh, the boys' Class A, Class 5A regional champions. So they did really well at the tournament. I know I was listening, rooting 'em on, and most of the town was, and, uh, we're proud of them.

Um, we've got some, some pretty big-ticket items on here that we've been working on for years and planned for, budgeted for, and I hope to see those advance, uh, the incinerator, uh, renovations to the school. Pretty important things for the town, things that are [00:04:00] overdue, and, um, government doesn't always move fast, but these are very important, critical, and expensive projects that, uh, I, I, um, hope pass tonight and, and we start to see that work happen very soon, as well as ongoing issues like the rockslide mitigation.

Um, and this is kind of something we've been doing every single spring, sending people up there to maintain the net, um, which we call the attenuator. It's a fancier term for those two steel nets up there. Um, checking for loose debris, um, and a few other things that are on here that, uh, have all been worked through the budget process. So, um, that they're on here tonight and it looks like it's all at once and it's a big whopping thing. We've been talking about some of these for six, seven years. So I'm glad to see them moving forward.

Well, let's move that on onto Assembly committee reports. We will start with finance, please.

Assemblymember Potter: Thank you, Your Honor. Finance met [00:05:00] last night. Uh, I move that we approve the check run in the amount of $986,074.38.

Assemblymember Weddell: Second.

Mayor Hanson: A motion by Potter, a second by Weddell, to approve the check run in the amount of nine hundred eighty-six thousand seventy-four dollars and thirty-eight cents. Any discussion? Roll call, please.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Assemblymember Potter: Um, all right. As I was [00:06:00] saying, finance met last night. We reviewed the bids for the incinerator, clinic x-ray renovation, school rehabilitation phase one, and the rock, uh, slide maintenance services projects. These are our items 9D, E, F, and G on tonight's agenda. All were recommended for approval, along with their associated construction administration proposals.

Um, we also, I think notably, um, for the next finance meeting, we are moving it to that Thursday, April 2nd at 5:00 PM, um, for that night's Assembly meeting. And that is all.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you, Chair Potter. Uh, civic affairs.

Assemblymember Weddell: Nothing at this time, Your Honor. Thank you.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. HEW.

Assemblymember Weddell: Nothing at this time. Thank you.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Parks and Rec.

Assemblymember Hillis: Thank you, Your Honor. Parks and Rec met on the 12th. Uh, discussed the draft Seven Pastures Recreation Area Management Plan. Um, had a good discussion, but since we were short one member, we decided to put it off for another meeting so we could get the full committee together for it.

Um, also discussed partnerships for trail maintenance and trail advancement in town, um, in the municipal area. Um, discussed priorities of trail maintenance and soft spots. Um, on the same theme, discussed the need for a trail connection to the new cabin site on Face Mountain. All those will be coming up again, so follow along for the next meeting. [00:08:00]

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Uh, what do you mean by soft spots, uh,

Assemblymember Hillis: Spots that are seeing heavy traffic that are damaging the trail, that need, uh, immediate work. Thank you.

Mayor Hanson: Public safety, please.

Assemblymember Henry: Um, nothing at this time, Your Honor. I'll be setting a meeting for next week. Um, we will get an update from the police chief on how we're looking for new hires, the general health of the fire department, and, uh, uh, the city manager sent me a, uh, email. We need to address a parking, uh, uh, downtown for a local business, and so we'll deal with that next week. Take care of that before the season starts. That is all.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you, Chair Henry. Public Works.

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Uh, nothing at this time, Your Honor.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you, Chair Burnham. That brings us on to Treasurer's Report, which [00:09:00] I believe we have one in the packet. Yes. Manager Deach?

Manager Deach: Yes, it's in your packet. Um, let me know if you have any questions or if I can get more information to you.

Mayor Hanson: Any questions for Manager Deach about the Treasurer's report? Okay, we're cruising forward. Manager's report.

Manager Deach: Um, just a couple things in addition to my written report. Um, I'm gonna be sending you the port director's update tomorrow. I just, I got it sort of late, so I didn't get it in the packet, but she noted that today is our third-year anniversary of managing the port. So it's, um, she says this milestone reflects a significant period of direct municipal stewardship. So that's cool. It's our third-year anniversary.

Um, also I do [00:10:00] have, um, Public Works gave me a brief update. Um, they're preparing for their summer season and helping hauling abandoned cars off the street and then working on getting these, uh, capital projects moving forward.

I also want to welcome our new permitting official, Kristen Perry, who is here today. She's hitting the ground running and we're very happy to have her. And that's it. Thanks.

Mayor Hanson: Alright. Thank you. Alright, coming on to item six, communications to the Assembly, correspondence. Clerk Burnham.

Clerk Burnham: Um, correspondence has been provided in accordance with rules and procedure.

Mayor Hanson: So we do have some correspondence.

Clerk Burnham: In accordance with the rules and procedure. Um, you either get correspondence to your email, or if it applies to this [00:11:00] packet or agenda, then it would be, um, in the packet.

Mayor Hanson: Okay.

Clerk Burnham: Yes.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. All right, citizens present. Uh, if you'll please come forth, state your name. If you're representing someone other than yourself, please clarify that, and try to keep your comments to five minutes or less. We'll start in the front, Jan. But yeah, turn the microphone on too. Thanks.

Janilyn Heger: I timed myself this afternoon. It was four minutes and 36 seconds, but I think I may have edited to less than that today. I'm actually before you more as a public service announcement than anything addressing our, um, current agenda. I'm here to talk about the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, more commonly known as the SAVE Act.

Why? Because politicians argue that there are rare [00:12:00] instances of voter fraud that justify stronger safeguards, yet there is no database or widespread fraud is statistically known at 0.001% of ballots cast, nowhere near enough to swing any election.

Who will this affect? Americans who lack easy access to documents it requires, especially low-income voters, people of color, married or divorced women who have changed their names, and people without passports. Poor people don't generally have the funds to travel internationally, so they don't need a passport, or generally, or often don't have the money to afford one.

I'd like to focus on the women like me who changed their names when we married. I couldn't believe how excited I was that day, and for months before I worked on my signature, on what Heger was gonna look like instead of Harding. [00:13:00] But at any rate, people who haven't changed their names, uh, haven't matched their birth certificates for years. I misplaced my birth certificate, and now I've had to request a new one at the cost of $35. And I'm guessing it'll take approximately two months to receive, uh, my new birth certificate.

If I resort to changing my name back to my maiden name, imagine what sort of scuttlebutt that's gonna cause in Skagway. But then there is the work on changing my name on every account I own, whether it's with or without my husband of 45 years. Oops, 46 years. It is time and money, and regardless of party affiliation, women will most likely face the larger burden if they want to ensure their vote. Very few men will have to face this hurdle in order to continue to vote. This is absolutely voter suppression, plain and simple.

Now, why am [00:14:00] I here in front of you at an Assembly meeting talking about the SAVE Act? It's because last December, Governor Dunleavy handed our Alaska voter information containing personal information to the federal government. That's actually in the news now, and I want to warn everyone who's a voter about the voter suppression scheme.

There are two Republican bills in Congress that hope to pressure states to purge their voter rolls every 30 days. Let that sink in. When you are purged, you're not notified. You may not know until you show up at the polls. In 2020, I was purged from Alaska voter rolls. Anybody who knows me knows I vote. I don't skip them, even little ones. I, I mean, really pretty much every election. There's no notice when that happens, and I only discovered it by happenstance. There was never any explanation when [00:15:00] I inquired.

I'm here to encourage everyone to protect their rights, their voter rights, by checking the status of their voter registration. There were veterans who fought for this right for Americans. There were women who marched in the street. Those suffragists, I swear, are part of my guardian angels. They fought for our right to vote. This is important, and I feel like my message is important.

Lastly, I want to tell you that in 2022, I became an election official. You know, the ones who greet you on election day, they check your ID. We do that in Alaska. We hand out your ballots, we make sure you give the pen back before you get your, uh, I Voted sticker, and we take this, uh, very seriously. There's training involved to become an election official. There were really, really cool women who came from the Juneau election division, uh, came from the [00:16:00] Division of Elections in Juneau, and they came to train us.

Alaska has strong, legally defined protections for election ballots, including strict chain-of-custody rules, security for storage safeguards, ballot accountability logs, and cybersecurity protections, and mandatory post-election audits. These protections apply statewide. Elections are no joke. At the end of the day, this is serious business among these elected officials, and they do this with integrity. They're small, well-trained staff, and they take care of managing your ballots, and I believe that fraud is rare, and I believe your vote is power.

I'm here to tell my community that protecting your power to vote falls on each and every one of us. No one can protect it for you. Please check your voter registration [00:17:00] regularly, clear up to election, whatever the limits are in Alaska, but make sure you can vote. Check your registration regularly. Also call your senators and tell them that that SAVE Act is unnecessary and nothing but voter suppression. Thank you for your time.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you, Janilyn. Dr. Cran.

Josh Coughran, Skagway School Superintendent: Good evening, Mayor Hanson, Assembly members. My name is Josh Coughran, Superintendent, Skagway School District. Uh, thank you for the opportunity to speak in support of agenda item 9F, the school rehabilitation phase one project. This is a project that is both necessary and timely, and one that directly impacts the safety, accessibility, and overall well-being of our students, staff, and community.

The primary driver of this project is the need to bring these facilities into compliance with ADA standards, ensuring that all students, staff, and visitors [00:18:00] have safe and equitable access. It's not just a regulatory requirement, it's a reflection of our values as a community. Every individual who enters our school should be able to do so with dignity and independence.

Stated bluntly, the current facilities are woefully in need of rehabilitation. The condition of the bathrooms no longer reflects the standards we expect for our students or the community we serve. Beyond aesthetics, there are functional concerns that affect daily use, maintenance, and long-term sustainability. Additionally, the school serves as an emergency shelter for Skagway, and in that role, the condition and functionality of our restroom facilities becomes even more critical during times of need. We must be prepared to provide a safe, clean, accessible, and fully operational environment for our community members. This remodel is an investment in that preparedness.

I also wanna recognize Public Works Director Ames and Manager Deach for their collaboration and support through the early stages of this project. Uh, their willingness to work together, problem-solve, and move this forward [00:19:00] has been greatly appreciated.

Finally, the timing of this project is ideal. Completing the work over the summer months allows us to avoid disruption to student learning and ensures that the facility is ready to use when school resumes. This is a practical, necessary investment in our infrastructure, our students, and our community. I strongly encourage your support. Thank you.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Melinda. Kristen. Liz.

Liz Lavoie: Hi there. Um, as citizen Liz Lavoie, um, I would like to second what, uh, Janilyn spoke to. If you require people to have a passport to vote, it is a poll tax.

Um, okay. As, um, Chair of Ports and Harbors, switching into that role, um, [00:20:00] I did not get something into the packet today, so I decided I would come down because the meetings lately have gotten, um, beefy. And our last meeting was a three-hour meeting. Um, we're at a time, I think right now, uh, where the port just has a lot of momentum, a lot of movement. It's, it's at a nexus. Lots of parts connected are coming together, and it's really just highlighted the need, um, for us to prioritize, um, updating the Port Master Plan.

Um, this last meeting had two presentations. One was YAPA, which is the Yukon Alaska Port Alliance, which is a very, um, big, uh, visionary sort of idea that a group of people have. Uh, and then the other one was KORE, who has been, um, coming to many of our [00:21:00] meetings as of late, and they have interest in, um, shipping ore through the port.

Um, Casino has also been, um, present in the last couple years. Uh, they're a much larger scale, and their timeline is, you know, 7, 8, 9, 10 years out, whereas KORE Copper is 2028 is what they're hoping for. Um, so, uh, just things that are going or haven't been going on and that will all inform each other is, uh, the administration, um, has pushed back, um, we'll let you know dates for the BUILD grant and the PIDP grant.

There was recently, um, uh, an outfit, and I forget their name, but underwater divers who came and inspected some of the infrastructure. Um, would be really interesting to hear what they have to say about the Broadway dock. Um, all of these parts are coming together. [00:22:00] Um, there was a scoping study that we made a recommendation for. It's not on the agenda tonight. Suspect maybe the Port Master Plan and the scoping study will show up on the next agenda perhaps. Um, we recommend that you approve and move forward with both.

Um, we really need to kind of gather some information right now so that we can, um, you know, have a lot of community input, um, when we get to the Port Master Plan. Um, as, uh, Director Jennings said, this is the three-year anniversary. Um, time goes so fast, um, and there's a lot of interest in the port. Um, there's a lot of entities interested in what is happening and, um, how they might be involved. So, um, good time for everyone to pay attention.

And, um, do hope that when the scoping study, [00:23:00] um, that we did sort of amend, uh, to make sure that it was, um, put on by the municipality and no other, you know, interested stakeholders involved so that we could have, um, a sort of general scoping study to see what our port, um, what makes sense for our port moving forward. I think that's all I have to say. Um, thank you for all the work you do, and, um, have a great evening.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you, Chair Lavoie, and thank you for conducting thorough, respectful long meetings. Um, that was a, that was a three-hour meeting. I was there. Um, lot going on inside of those three hours, so appreciate your hard work.

Okay, [00:24:00] that's it. Nobody else? Alright, we're gonna move on to 7A, public hearing, second reading and adoption of Ordinance 26-02, amending the FY26 budget to provide funding for Public Works shop improvements and clinic ultrasound.

Motion.

Assemblymember Weddell: I move for the public hearing, second reading, and adoption of 26-02.

Assemblymember Hillis: Second.

Mayor Hanson: A motion by Weddell, second by Hillis. Would anyone from the public like to address this issue?

Public hearing is closed. [00:25:00] Assemblymember Weddell.

Assemblymember Weddell: Thank you, Your Honor. I move that we strike from the title the words “Public Works consolidation engineering.” We have removed the corresponding whereas and line items, so the title is no longer valid, and I think should be updated as well.

Mayor Hanson: Second.

Assemblymember Weddell: Sorry, that was a long—

Mayor Hanson: A motion by Weddell and a second by Hillis to strike—

Assemblymember Weddell: “Public Works consolidation engineering.”

Mayor Hanson: Say it one more time.

Assemblymember Weddell: “Public Works consolidation engineering” from the title.

Mayor Hanson: To strike “Public Works consolidation engineering” from the title. Discussion. Assemblymember Weddell.

Assemblymember Weddell: Sorry, I kind of said this with my very long motion, but the reason why is because we've already [00:26:00] struck the whereas and the corresponding line items, so I feel like it no longer applies to this document. So it's mostly housekeeping on my part.

Mayor Hanson: Any discussion from the phone? Hearing none, roll call.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: Okay. That brings us back to the main motion, now amended with removing the words in the title. Any further discussion? All right. Roll call.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham? [00:27:00]

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: Okay, thank you. Moving to 7B, public hearing, second reading and adoption of Ordinance 26-03, amending Skagway Municipal Code 4.04, Management of Funds, to update spending authority limits and other fund management regulations.

Assemblymember Weddell: Move for public hearing, second reading and adoption of Ordinance number 26-03.

Assemblymember Hillis: Second.

Mayor Hanson: A motion by Weddell, a second by Hillis, to approve Ordinance 26-03. Would anyone from the public like to speak to this issue? [00:28:00] Hearing none, public hearing is closed. Discussion.

Clerk Burnham: Alright, roll call. Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Moving to item eight, unfinished business, item A, review of Assembly direction regarding summaries of citizens' comments and Assembly minutes. This motion was made, um, in November by Assemblymember Potter that we would review this at the second meeting in March. This is the second meeting in March. Assemblymember Potter.

Assemblymember Potter: Thank you, Your [00:29:00] Honor. Um, there was a discussion, um, back in November, the November 20th meeting, of a, um, a desire, just kind of a, the importance of providing a historical record, um, with more detailed minutes that can be looked back. Um, we also discussed that though someone like me kind of leans into the recordings, that doesn't work for everybody. You know, everybody has their different approaches to, to the style that works best for them in their, in their research.

So, um, there was the move to direct the clerks to provide this detailed style. I'd also, in the process, learned a lot about, um, the world of minutes, and, um, I do really appreciate this memo that is in our packet tonight. Um, there are prescribed different styles of [00:30:00] minutes that clerks are taught, so it's not just an arbitrary process.

At that November meeting, there was the, the, um, the motion to direct the clerks to provide the, basically the, what I think is now described as the concise summary minutes. Um, and then my thought process to amend it, to revisit it four months later, which is to, to be open to it and give it a, a trial run.

Um, so that four months just went by really fast, and here we are. And given that, um, kind of looking back at the, the four months and this memo in front of us in the packet under 8A, I move to direct the clerks to prepare minutes for Assembly meetings using the action minutes with transcript [00:31:00] model as described in tonight's packet under item eight.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Second.

Mayor Hanson: We have a motion by Potter and a second by Pomeroy to direct staff to use action minutes with transcript model.

Assemblymember Potter: Transcript model.

Mayor Hanson: To use action minutes with transcript model. Discussion. Assemblymember Potter.

Assemblymember Potter: Thank you, Your Honor. Um, I, one of, one of my takeaways is I, I definitely, I totally see the reasoning for wanting to have, um, as I was saying, a detailed historical record that, um, one could look back for the purposes of research to try to figure out, um, [00:32:00] there was an issue last week that, um, I found myself kind of looking back through, um, minutes from 2001 and 2002, trying to remember my, my reasoning why I came up with the, uh, with the resolution. It was, um, with regarding the, um, RV habitation.

And in that instance, I, I saw different types of minutes and, um, and, and it was definitely handy to have the historical record. Using this four months as kind of a trial period to see how that has kind of translated to real world, we have in this packet, um, minutes that are 18 pages. And I think at this point kind of what makes the most sense is to just go ahead and take [00:33:00] some of the guessing game, because once again, as, as was talked about at the last November meeting, um, we, we have to be careful that the clerks are not trying to interpret tone, um, um, being put into a situation of fact-checking.

And honestly, and I think Assemblymember Hillis mentioned the, the technology aspect of it, we just live in a world where technology is on our side and I think we should just lean into it and embrace it. And we have, you know, with AI tools that I think are probably designed specifically to translate minutes, actually as I'm talking about right now, um, I was at a vet appointment over the winter and the doctor asked if she minded if she recorded it because she used an AI program to translate our in-person interaction into notes. So that's just the fact of modern-day [00:34:00] technology. We can just have AI translate our meetings into a transcript that is posted, that I'm guessing won't take very long, and then can just be backed up with a very brief action minutes.

This is the model that they used over in Haines that I was looking at, um, and they seem to get their minutes posted, um, within that same week. So that's what I am thinking and that's what I am in favor of.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Assemblymember Pomeroy.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Thank you, Your Honor. Um, I, uh, just speaking about technology, I met with staff and looked at, um, uh, the, I asked, of course, what different timelines were, what, um, I guess, uh, the background was, uh, of everything, but [00:35:00] I do wanna say, I, I got to see the software for, uh, transcription and it is really, looking for a better word and can't find it, cool. It was really cool because it gives you a visual, um, representation of the audio, and the audio, it breaks down and lets, uh, the clerks speed through, uh, and automatically, well, they assign who is speaking, but they can do that very quickly so they're not, um, having to go through and spend a lot of time, uh, thinking and thinking about who is speaking.

So that's very quickly assigned, that portion of the minutes, um, and corrected. And it gives them the opportunity to very quickly go through and make sure that the [00:36:00] transcript itself is correct. So this one gives a more comprehensive public record of the meeting, um, because it's every word spoken.

Um, but it also, um, oh, uh, as, uh, Assemblymember Potter said, it does cut out the tone because you don't need tone when you're just using the words of what was said by the person speaking.

And I'm gonna just say, uh, speaking of AI, I loathe AI summaries of all of the emails that I get. I absolutely loathe them. Uh, 'cause it's, it's, it's wrong, it's wrong half the time. Uh, however, the other day I had a meeting, um, with, [00:37:00] uh, my business partner and someone, and, uh, it was over Zoom and I got an AI summary minutes of that meeting and it was spot on. So that tells me that even with different AI models, you're going to have a variance in tone.

So you can have somebody, uh, like our current clerks who are going to go through and try to try their best to remove tone and summarize only what is happening. But no matter what, when you introduce a person, you are going to get, you, you run the risk of having the possibility of bias. You're going to get whatever that person's bias is, whatever is, um, whatever their skill level is in summarizing, uh, if nothing else.

So I do see, um, [00:38:00] the, the benefit of, if you were looking for the difference between what we had asked sort of for concise summary minutes versus action minutes with transcript, uh, I actually had a huge, um, it, it felt very, very revelatory to me today to see that what that would mean. And for thinking about if I am wanting to quickly go back, scan through what was said, I wanna see what was actually said, and I can with a transcript, and that is magnificent, but you still have the action minutes, uh, that tells you what is spoken about, if that makes sense.

Um, but I also want to make sure in this discussion, 'cause I think we're all gonna talk about it, um, I wanna make sure that one thing happened in the last meeting that I felt a little uncomfortable, uncomfortable about afterward. And it was [00:39:00] that we did not get, I think, input, um, from the clerk. This is, we have our, our two clerks here. Um, and this is the, these are the folks who we are asking this of. And so I want to, would it be okay if we involve, uh, the clerks in this discussion?

Mayor Hanson: For the reason that I did not want to put them on the spot, I asked, uh, Clerk Burnham to prepare this memo. Um, and I think that's fair. It gave him time to, to, um, come forth with his, you know, analysis of, of, of what's what. And, and I was asking, you know, broadly, you [00:40:00] know, also about time, but I don't know if he had that available about the difference between how long it takes to do action minutes or summary minutes. And, you know, if he didn't, that's fine. If it's subjective, I don't think that is really fair because you're asking 'em somewhat, you know, of a question that's, uh, more of an opinion, and, and he's trying to be very accurate with, you know, his, his recording.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: I have a quantitative question.

Mayor Hanson: If you have a quantitative question, uh, if Clerk Burnham is willing to answer, oh yeah, a quantitative question, um, and he's, uh, willing to answer. Um, Clerk Burnham, were you potentially able to answer a quantitative question?

Clerk Burnham: Y- yes, Your [00:41:00] Honor, if I could hear the question, I'll—

Mayor Hanson: Sure.

Clerk Burnham: Before I, of course, indicate whether I'll answer.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: So my question is, if, uh, so this, this motion is for action minutes with transcript rather than what we were sort of going for before, uh, concise summary minutes, and, um, uh, the timeline for putting together action, the amount of time that the clerk's office would spend putting together action minutes and a transcript, and getting those to publication, versus the time that it takes, uh, to give concise, to draw up concise summary minutes. Are there, is there a general amount of time that it takes to produce minutes if you're going for, say, concise summary minutes of, say, a one-hour meeting? [00:42:00]

Clerk Burnham: Um, Your Honor, I can answer. It will not be concise. Um, meaning, uh, it's subjective and meeting-dependent, and it is clerk's office duties-dependent.

Mayor Hanson: Could you maybe answer how many pages, just, I mean, I know we can reference that, but just for the purpose of not going back over decades of minutes, maybe the, the comparison of an hour meeting of action minutes compared to concise summary meetings, uh, minutes of two meetings of comparable length. Is that generally broadly something you might be able to quantify?

Clerk Burnham: It really is dependent on the subject and the, the speaker.

Mayor Hanson: Okay. If you feel like you want to answer the question and you can give—

Clerk Burnham: Is the question about length of time that we believe that we could maybe get a transcript or action minutes? I can only estimate 'cause we haven't done it, but I'm not sure if that was part of the question.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Well, that wasn't, but now it is. Um, no, um, I think what I'm looking for here is I'm wondering, in my mind, this cuts down the amount of time, for, that it takes for the purpose. The purpose of minutes is so that we have a documentation on record, and I, I very strongly feel it should be kept in writing somewhere just in case, you know, after the asteroid we can't access, um, anything online. Um, [00:44:00] something archival that truly captures what was said in the meeting and something that I can go back and research and anyone in this community can truly go back and research, especially for those people who maybe have auditory processing problems, who aren't going to pick up what they need to pick up by listening to a meeting. And, um, and a, a summary doesn't cut it.

Say, uh, I, uh, I, I think the best of both worlds in my mind is then you have the transcript, then you have the actual words that were actually said. It for me also gives, um, uh, helps with what was said at citizens present. Uh, it is a true documentation of what was said. And so my, my question is, I don't want to be in favor of that if that is going to be more burdensome [00:45:00] to the clerks, because there is a number that, uh, I, I have heard tossed out that, um, generally writing minutes, and I know this for myself when, when I have annual board meetings, it takes a long time to correctly capture the minutes of, uh, what was discussed. But I don't want to place a greater burden on the clerk's office through this request. I'm just trying to ask if the clerk has an idea of, would it be more or less, yeah, I guess I'm looking for the scale of that, a time burden. Is that quantitative, more or less?

Mayor Hanson: Did you, did you understand the question, Clerk Burnham?

Clerk Burnham: I think, um, we can have, [00:46:00] you know, we put the podcast out after the meeting is over. It's online, um, usually within half an hour to 40 minutes of the conclusion of your Assembly meetings. Um, most podcast players also have AI transcription. Um, so that will be the fastest way for someone to read a meeting.

Um, we could transcribe the meeting using our software on Friday. Um, and then I think between Friday and end of day Monday, we could go through that transcript and clean it so there's not name misspellings, um, or typos, not changing anything else. Um, and then we would also, before ever [00:47:00] doing that, have the attorney provide us with some sort of disclaimer that it's not an approved document, um, it's not considered the legal record, um, of the meeting. That way we can post it, um, to your web packet, um, for that meeting.

Um, and then our goal, um, and, and I say goal because it's time dependent. We do a lot of other things. Um, but our goal would be to have a set of action minutes, um, on your Assembly agenda at the following Assembly meeting if it was two weeks later. And I think that would be reasonable.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you, Clerk Burnham. Assemblymember Hillis.

Assemblymember Hillis: That sounds, uh, great, considering that [00:48:00] under the current writing 18 pages, we are about four months behind. Um, and that is not anything on the clerks. I think that is the burden of the current minutes that is putting us farther and farther behind. Um, I, I like the action minutes with transcript. It sounds fairly fast. They sound, the clerks sound optimistic about it. Hey, maybe we can give it another form of trial. I'm kidding—

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Your Honor, this is Jay.

Mayor Hanson: Assemblymember Burnham, go ahead.

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Thank you, Your Honor. Um, I'm, I am, uh, rather concerned about the, the minutes being three months behind right now, which it is only three months. Um, we said we were giving it a four-month trial. As far as I know this, I think we maybe had one. I think this is the only full complete meeting minutes that we've gotten, the 18 pages. [00:49:00] Um, I would point out that I believe when we asked for the directive to, to make it, um, more clear what citizens present were trying to convey and to have that in the minutes, the minutes were, I believe, two months behind to start with and then there were no minutes, I don't believe, in December. So I, as far as a four-month trial run, I don't think we really gave it a four-month trial run, 'cause we're three months behind.

Um, as far as the minutes being transcribed, I think that would be great. I think it would, I mean, it, it would be great to be able to, to be able to go through the minutes and, you know, search a word or search a phrase that you thought was said at the last meeting or like that. But, um, I'm, [00:50:00] what I'm starting to think, it isn't so much about the minutes or how we're doing it, but even what Clerk Burnham brought up is the priority that we give the minutes. Like what are the clerks doing that is more important than the minutes. I understand if there's a priority list, it might be easier to follow. 'Cause I, I think minutes are extremely important. Would I say they're more important than the elections that they oversee? No. But that's usually one month or two months out of the year that they're doing that. Um, I, I think they're more important than, than me wanting to go in and talk about a swimming pool for 45 minutes and how we can get that done, to where he could be able to say we're not doing that. And honestly, I'm, I'm [00:51:00] not sure how exactly the minutes are brought forward, whether it's Steve doing them or Kathy doing them, or Steve doing part of it, or Kathy doing, uh, the clerk doing part of it, or the deputy clerk doing part of it. Um, I don't know exactly how it comes about, but I think the, the bigger picture here is like if we're having the clerk and deputy clerk doing other things that I would say aren't as important as the minutes because, I'll just, the last thing I'll say, I just can't see any reason why we're three months behind, over three months behind on minutes. I can't see how they can't just say, stay out of our office for three days. So that's, that's my 2 cents on minutes.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you, Assemblymember Burnham. Assemblymember Henry. [00:52:00]

Assemblymember Henry: Yeah. Um, I would be, uh, in agreement with, uh, Assemblymember Potter and Hillis, um, in regard to the, uh, citizens present aspect of the minutes. Um, over the years, I've, uh, been at meetings with dogs at large, trapping, school budget, and, um, to say that the assembly room was packed would be an understatement. Some 200 people, uh, went up to the microphone and spoke. So the brevity of saying that, uh, this individual agrees with trapping, this, uh, individual disagrees, that's, that's good enough for me.

So the scope of the citizens present aspect, I think is pretty simple to take care of, and you certainly can't in minutes read into, um, necessarily what the [00:53:00] individual, uh, emotionally attached to, uh, different aspects of what they're talking about. Um, you certainly can, when you listen to that same, um, minutes, um, from citizens present.

Then as far as the aspect of the transcript, I, I certainly think that we should be embracing, uh, the technology that we have. Um, as the clerk pointed out, uh, it's pretty, um, expeditious the way that it can be put out, um, through the AI transcript and the podcast. Um, I think far too much time is being devoted, um, to these 18 pages. Um, certainly, uh, the aspects of the minutes that are very [00:54:00] specific to each agenda item, each motion being made, uh, obviously are very important. Um, the discussion, um, that goes along with that, um, certainly does not need to be each and every word verbatim. Uh, in my view, the point can be made in a couple of bullet points.

Um, I think the city clerk and the deputy clerk, much like all of the admin staff, um, continue to have a, a heavier burden, um, with every season that passes as we all see the numbers go up and up and up, and the demands on every department within the city continue to expand. So, um, I would be in favor of us sunsetting this four months and, uh, going to a [00:55:00] clearer and concise approach to it.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you, Assemblymember Henry. Assemblymember Weddell.

Assemblymember Weddell: Thank you, Your Honor. Um, I think this is a really interesting concept, and, um, I'm open to trying it. However, I would say that this is a pretty big change, and while it could be a promising solution, um, I, I'm reticent to just jump into it. So I move that we amend the current motion to add to the end of it, “and this decision will be revisited at the September 3rd meeting.”

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Second.

Mayor Hanson: We have a motion by Weddell, a second by Pomeroy, to add to the motion that the minute discussion will be [00:56:00] added to the September 3rd meeting. Discussion.

Assemblymember Weddell: Um, so I was so reluctant to have this conversation again tonight. Um, back at the November 20th meeting, I prepared 60 years of minutes, um, a memo. I spoke at length, I cited Robert's Rules, and I was, you know, coming in tonight being like, you know, if that doesn't, like, convince the table, I don't know what will, and I don't, you know, wanna continue having this discussion. But I just wanna make sure that we have a durable, informative historical record that continues to support legal research and policy review and an understanding of our civic history.

And, um, while I don't know if this is the answer, it could be, and, and I'm open to trying it, but, but I would appreciate if the table, like we did on the last one, gave it the test [00:57:00] run. As, as much as we all don't wanna keep revisiting the topic, it is an important topic, and I think that this is a creative solution that if it does prove to do all those things that I want, which is to provide a good record reference to people, um, you know, support legal research and all those things, and also not be burdensome on staff, then that's a win-win. And it's pretty easy for me.

However, what I heard tonight was that the clerks have never done this before, and so they don't know how long it's gonna take. And we, I, I've seen Haines as example and that, you know, that I can, I think I could work with that or find that appropriate, but I won't really know either until I think I see it in practice for a little while. So I hope that the table supports this revisit back in September because I think it's a reasonable approach to such a dramatic change. And then if we see it for a few months and then we're like, you know what? I just don't feel like this is capturing it, we can [00:58:00] revisit, or we can say, you know what, slam dunk, let's just move on to the next agenda item, which was truthfully what I was hoping would happen tonight. So thank you.

Mayor Hanson: Assemblymember Potter.

Assemblymember Potter: Thank you, Your Honor. I think that's actually a very reasonable, um, uh, request. I will admit that in when we started this, I maybe thought it wasn't the best use of our time, but kind of going through this process, I think it has been productive. And we were due for, um, kind of a revisit to how we do our minutes just to see if it's aligning with, you know, modern practice and technology. So I, I think that's a totally reasonable request to revisit it, see how, and see how this one works.

Mayor Hanson: Assemblymember Pomeroy.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Okay. I'm gonna make this short, I promise, but I—

Mayor Hanson: I noticed there [00:59:00] was tone in that. There was. That would not be recorded.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Um, yeah, the whole point in my mind is, is the involvement, uh, and the ability, uh, of involvement for the public and for people in the future. And, um, but I, I do like the idea just in case we have opened a really bad can of worms, not a good can of worms, that we do revisit this. So anyway, that's all I'm saying.

Assemblymember Henry: Mr. Mayor—

Mayor Hanson: Assemblymember Henry.

Assemblymember Henry: In the words of Ray Bradbury, I believe, uh, the asteroid, uh, while it knocks out the, uh, internet, it will more than likely burn the paper.

Mayor Hanson: Is that Fahrenheit 451, Mr. Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: That would be the one.

Mayor Hanson: Okay. Alright, let's have a roll call on the amendment to revisit this in September. [01:00:00]

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: Okay, are we back to the main motion now? Amended. Any further discussion? Assembly—uh, Clerk Burnham, um—

Clerk Burnham: Um, Your Honor, I feel like I should point out that you have now approved five sets of minutes since November 20th, 2025, done after the decision that included minutes from October. [01:01:00] Um, I feel the Assembly should be aware of that because they approved them.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you, and we appreciate, uh, that clarification.

Clerk Burnham: Roll call. Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Moving on to, does everybody good? We need to take a break or anything? Okay. No, no one's, uh, okay. We're good. Moving on to 9A, direction for Garden City RV Park for [01:02:00] 2027.

Um, I requested that this be on the agenda because Assemblymember Hillis approached me and said that there are people who want to stay at our Garden City RV Park in 2027 and staff does not have clarity as to what's happening. And in discussions with the manager, we also have, um, some, some hurdles to advance the engineering. Um, and we have some decisions that have to be clarified so staff knows how to direct the engineering so that can continue.

So it's my hope that we can talk about this and then we can send it to committee and we can kind of make moves right, left, up, down, whatever we do. But, um, we had talked about in the fall that we'd have all winter to deal with this, and now it's March. I know it's snowing and still seems like we're in the middle of winter, but I was reminded by Assemblymember [01:03:00] Hillis that you cannot avoid this problem. And I agree. When there's snow all over your driveway, you gotta deal with it. So, um, this is me doing housekeeping and not avoiding a problem that's been hanging around here for almost the entire time I've served on the Assembly.

So, um, I think I would like to have Manager Deach go over some of the, um, maybe just things that have, have paused advancement, uh, from, from both things that we've passed and some engineering questions and correspondence we've gotten from SDC. So, Manager Deach, if you would like, could you address kind of what's going on with the—

Manager Deach: Yes, I can. Okay. And thanks to Assemblymember Weddell, she reminded me that I wrote all this out for her a little while ago, so I'll, I'll use those as my notes.

Um, so we have money in the budget this year to finish the [01:04:00] engineering for the utility project at Garden City. Um, we were waiting for the Skagway Traditional Council to make their selections, um, for the two lot, two 5,000-square-foot lots that were authorized, um, to offer to them through your resolution that you passed, the Assembly. Uh, they have made that selection. Um, they're looking at two lots on the southwest side of, um, the lots, so it would be at 15th and Main. Um, and they have some cool ideas of what they would like to do there.

Um, also part of their request is that they're hoping, and, uh, I did not remember this, but it's in the comprehensive plan, that they don't, they are requesting that there's no thoroughfare through 16th Avenue. So those were other, some more engineering questions that I had for the engineer. Um, it's doable. Uh, it, it's just gonna really depend on what, [01:05:00] what the Assembly decides to do.

So, um, because those two 5,000-square-foot lots have been selected, the remaining lots that were approved at 3,000 square feet need to be, we need to talk about reorganizing or what, you know, how to, how to reorganize those, um, to be what you want. Um, there's also some code compliance issues that may come into play depending on what you decide, uh, that we would have to get over as well. Um, but in order to move forward with the engineering, basically we need to, um, settle on an updated, um, conceptual plan of how we want it laid out, then we can finish the engineering.

Um, I also, there was a question about the bonds. So, um, I was, I provided Assemblymember Weddell with information about, uh, we think we have a [01:06:00] preliminary construction estimate that is probably in the ballpark of what it will end up being, you know, maybe plus or minus some. But, so if the Assembly wanted to go ahead and do a bond ordinance, we can get that going as well.

Um, but it's my hope that we have the end—I mean, if all went well, we would have the engineering done this year and be able to go out to bid and get someone on the ground next summer. I'm a little pessimistic about quick, easy timelines because they never seem to work out that way. So that's where, you know, we've been following the direction that the Assembly gave to former manager that we're going to run the park as it is until we hear different. So I think if there are questions about whether or not this, we're going to need to make a change for FY27, we should know now.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you, Manager [01:07:00] Deach. Assemblymember Hillis.

Assemblymember Hillis: Thank you, Your Honor. I just wanted to clarify my contract ends at the end of the, well, the '26 season. It ends like April 2027 or something like that before the '27 season. So I don't have a conflict of interest discussing this.

Um, I do have some insight on it. Um, and first off, I wanna say we get a lot of caravans of four or five caravans of 17 to 20-something, 22, 23 rigs each year. Um, that is significantly down because of uncertainty about where, um, they're going to go and the condition of Garden City RV Park. But those caravans bring with them at least two people in each rig. They stay here for three to four days. They book out private tours typically. Um, they are good customers for our locally owned businesses in [01:08:00] town. That's what they come here for.

Um, and if we, when we move forward with Garden City, we need an alternative, um, for them because they don't fit at Pullen Creek right now. There's not enough room for 'em. Pullen Creek is too tight. It won't fit the big 40-foot rigs, and that's, they'll have five to 10 40-foot rigs in each one.

Um, so that's why this was like a pressing issue for me, is that they're coming again this summer. I'll be talking to 'em and they'll be asking, what about 2027? And I want to have an answer for them that's not go somewhere else. Um, these are critical visitors to our town, um, and we, we really want 'em to stay.

An idea that I had the other day as I was looking at it is that we could look at if it made sense. Um, Garden City could close after July and you would only miss maybe one [01:09:00] caravan then if you kept it open through July. So that's an option as well, is an early closure in the summer, um, to accommodate a start of work if we got that far along. Um, that requires some communication, of course, but I don't think that would be the end of the world.

But we do need some sort of, of a, a plan for 2027, um, before really June of this year. And so I just, uh, if, if it's going to be that we're not really sure, it would be wise to just leave the park open, get the majority of those caravans in and gone, and continue to plan on alternative for them for 2028.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Further comment. Assemblymember Pomeroy.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: I think Assemblymember Weddell was first. I'm only saying that 'cause I'm looking up some dates.

Mayor Hanson: [01:10:00] Assemblymember Weddell.

Assemblymember Weddell: Thank you, Your Honor. Um, I'm glad to see this on the agenda. It's, as, as we see in here, there's still lots to be done and I would like to continue the momentum on this project.

Um, we do not have a clear funding source, so that's, um, for the construction work. So that is a challenge that is gonna be ongoing. Um, I really like the idea of exploring the bond and seeing if we can get it to the vote, because that might be a decent way to, you know, open up more housing in this community.

Um, I would like to thank the Assemblymember that brought this forward to the agenda, because also I think that those caravans are very important to this community. I, I agree with that statement, and I think that if, I mean, the idea of keeping it open through July sounds like a really good compromise to me, because if we know that, you know, we're still [01:11:00] experiencing funding identification, things like that, we don't know where we're at, but we know that we wanna move forward with the project and that it could potentially just start in August. I, I don't know if that's a realistic thing or not, but it seems like that's a really good compromise for now to be able to tell caravans yes, you could book through July at least, and then maybe by the October budget season we'll have a better idea of whether or not we'll continue the park further than that.

But for now to at least give that, um, option seems like a great compromise to me. Um, so, so I'd be really open to providing that direction tonight.

I also would like to see, um, the discussion of updating the conceptual plan with incorporation of the STC selections maybe moving forward too. I think it might be appropriate to send that to committee, then have a recommendation brought back to the table. And I think there's several committees that would [01:12:00] be appropriate. I, I'll let the table choose. I can happily take it at HEW, but I also think Public Works or Civic Affairs would be perfectly appropriate places as well. Um, but I think that would be great to direct a committee to take that up with, um, or request that it comes back to the table afterwards for recommendation so that we can get that out to the engineers so that we can get to that percentage so that we can get it within, if we're gonna bond, we do need to have, um, that put and an ordinance put together by bond counsel and there's gonna be some delays on that. And then there's like, you know, voting timelines that also need to be accommodated. So, and that's all before June too. So, um, so I hope to see some progress with this project, however the table sees fit, but, but however we can keep the momentum going would be wonderful by myself. Thank you. Thanks.

Mayor Hanson: Assemblymember Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yeah, I agree with, uh, [01:13:00] both Assemblymember Weddell, and, um, and I like the idea of at least opening for a partial summer, if that is a possibility. Um, I do wanna make sure though that it does not stop the momentum. Uh, but I also, I, I just was checking dates because I know this year we do have multiple caravans that I know of coming in August, but with advance notice, that might be an easy adjustment for them. And, um, so I—now I'm blanking. I, oh, this is wonderful. Um, uh, yeah, I'm gonna leave it at that.

Mayor Hanson: Either Assemblymembers on the phone, Jay or Dan?

Assemblymember Henry: Nothing, Your Honor.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Jay.

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Takes forever to unmute. [01:14:00] Um, no. Uh, I, I think just getting started on it is a good idea.

Mayor Hanson: Okay. Uh, Assemblymember Pomeroy.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: My apologies. Um, I actually have already, um, started the ball rolling, uh, because I would really like to take this to Civic Affairs. Um, so I just want to put that out there. Uh oh. And so I move—

Mayor Hanson: Well—

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Um, yeah, I move that we send this to Civic Affairs.

Assemblymember Potter: Second.

Mayor Hanson: We have a motion by Pomeroy, a second by Potter. I would entertain an amendment to that, a motion that it comes back to the Assembly with direction as discussed already.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Would, would it be okay if I restate?

Mayor Hanson: Yes, that would probably be better.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Okay. I'd like to restate my motion. Um, I move that we, uh, send this to Civic Affairs, [01:15:00] uh, and um, with the understanding that it comes back to the Assembly—

Feed me the words please.

Mayor Hanson: We'll take one more stab at here. Assemblymember Potter.

Assemblymember Potter: I move that we send, um, this—I don't know if we like the word this—I move that Civic Affairs, um, I move that we send this to Civic Affairs to, uh, update a conceptual design that takes into account, um, the STC [01:16:00] allotment selections, as well as any other issues that need to be discussed, to return to the Assembly for discussion April 2nd.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Second.

Mayor Hanson: The motion by Potter, second by Pomeroy, to send the conceptual design of Garden City to Civic Affairs for consideration regarding STC's requests and other related issues, and that it come back to the Assembly on April 2nd.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: So anyway, yeah, the whole point was, uh, we wanna visit this at Civic Affairs, and, uh, because I've already taken a look, we already have the plat. We already have it drawn out, so I'd like to get public input on it. [01:17:00]

Mayor Hanson: Any further discussion? Roll call, please.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Uh, let's keep on rolling here. Let's go to 9B, approval of Murphy easement agreement. Manager Deach, would you like to, um, introduce this quickly?

Manager Deach: Sure. Yes. Um, first I wanna mention on the memo I put into your packet, I have a little bit of a typo. Um, the proposed motion that I put at the bottom should be to approve the 900-square-foot easement, not 900-foot easement, because that would [01:18:00] be much longer than this actually is.

Um, so we had an easement application from Robert Murphy. Um, he has two, uh, housing units on lots that are not served by the municipal water and sewer mains. We have no intention anytime in the near future to extend our water and sewer mains down into that block. And therefore, um, he asked for an easement so that he could put his own in. So they would be for use going to his, uh, units. He would own them, maintain them, everything like that. If we put in some water sewer mains, he would need to remove them. Um, and that was the gist of it.

The Resolution 25-27R, um, authorized me to negotiate with him this easement agreement, which we did. Uh, we came up with a 12-foot by [01:19:00] 75-foot easement, and I have our Public Works Director feels this is sufficient. Mr. Murphy feels it's sufficient. Um, we had already received the appraisal for, um, one that was 50 feet longer. And so I checked in with the appraiser and he gave me an updated appraisal, um, for the smaller 900-square-foot easement. So it comes out to, it's a market value of $6,237.

Um, the easement agreement that's in your packet, it checks all the boxes for the, um, requirements that the resolution, uh, authorized me to put in there for the terms. Um, there's insurance coverage, there's, you know, all the indemnifications and everything that we want in there, and the attorney has reviewed and, um, is okay with the easement agreement as well. [01:20:00] So I would—the next thing to do is to approve the easement agreement and then we'll get it recorded with the state, and then he can start his project on there.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Assemblymember Weddell.

Assemblymember Weddell: I move that we approve the 900-square-foot easement agreement with Robert Murphy.

Assemblymember Hillis: Second.

Mayor Hanson: We have a motion by Weddell, second by Hillis, to approve the 900-square-foot easement agreement with Robert Murphy. Any discussion? Roll call, please.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Um, moving on to 9C, approval of fee proposal for dredge material sampling, characterization, and reporting.

Assemblymember Weddell: I move that we approve Amendment Number Five for dredge [01:21:00] material sampling, characterization, and reporting from KPFF in an amount not to exceed $56,890.

Mayor Hanson: Second. A motion by Weddell, second by Hillis, to approve Amendment Number Five for dredge material sampling, characterization, and reporting from KPFF in an amount not to exceed $56,890. Discussion? Let's get it done. Roll call.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Brings us now to incinerator replacement project [01:22:00] 9D. There's two parts. I would, uh, request we do them in separate motions, please.

Assemblymember Weddell: Um, I move that we award the incinerator replacement project contract to Dawson Construction LLC in an amount not to exceed $6,844,037.

Mayor Hanson: Second. A motion by Weddell, a second by Hillis, to award the incinerator replacement project contract to Dawson Construction LLC in an amount not to exceed $6,844,037. Discussion?

Assemblymember Potter: Thank you, Your Honor. We spoke about this at finance last night. It's really pretty straightforward.

Mayor Hanson: Roll call.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham? [01:23:00]

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you.

Assemblymember Weddell: Um, for 9D-2, I move that we approve the incinerator replacement project construction administration and observation services fee proposal from RESPEC Engineering in an amount not to exceed $263,598.75.

Assemblymember Hillis: Second.

Mayor Hanson: We have a motion by Weddell, second by Hillis, to approve the incinerator replacement project construction administration and observation services fee proposal from RESPEC Engineering in an amount not to exceed $263,598.75. Discussion?

Assemblymember Potter: Thank you, Your Honor. We also, um, all you'll see all of these projects, um, also come with [01:24:00] that second part of a, um, construction administration, um, uh, proposal. And they're just there to make sure that the project is being done according to, um, engineering design.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you for that. And I would say that these are both very reputable firms, um, that put out a bid. Um, they both, uh, uh, Dawson's done work in Skagway. MCG, they have done work all over Southeast Alaska. Um, and these projects are, are, you know, close to what we bid. So, um, long years coming into this, uh, here. So I'm, I'm pleased to see it. Any further discussion? Roll call.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: [01:25:00] Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. That brings us to 9E, Clinic X-Ray renovations project.

Assemblymember Weddell: I move that we award the clinic x-ray renovations project contract to MCG Constructors, Inc. in an amount not to exceed $174,000.

Mayor Hanson: Second. The motion by Weddell, second by Pomeroy—to award the clinic x-ray renovations project contract to MCG Constructors, Inc. in an amount not to exceed $174,000. Discussion. Assemblymember Potter.

Assemblymember Potter: Thank you, Your Honor. We spoke about this at, um, finance last night. I, I could pass along how the manager explained what the [01:26:00] clinic director explained, but I'm wondering if we can have Manager Deach just cut to her conversation with Director Wall regarding the oxygen generator replacement that we did have that $197,000 budget line, which turns out, um, we don't necessarily need that right away.

Mayor Hanson: Uh, Manager Deach, could you, as Assemblymember Potter said, cut to the chase of that discussion?

Manager Deach: Yes. Uh, the gist of the discussion is the x-ray installation is a higher priority than the oxygen generator replacement, and we have learned that we can wait from a certified person who works on these generators that it's in good shape and we can wait on it. Therefore, we would prefer to go with the, use that funding to do the x-ray installation. [01:27:00]

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Further discussion? Roll call.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Assemblymember Weddell: I move that we approve the clinic x-ray renovations project construction administrative services fee proposal from CRW Engineering in an amount not to exceed $19,607.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Second.

Mayor Hanson: A motion by Weddell, second by Pomeroy, to approve the clinic x-ray renovations project construction administration services fee proposal from CRW Engineering in an amount not to exceed $19,607. Discussion? [01:28:00]

Assemblymember Potter: Thank you, Your Honor. I'll just add really quick that, um, even given the, um, construction administration proposal, uh, we're still, it is still under that original $197,000 budget amount.

Mayor Hanson: By, by a few dollars. That's great. Roll call.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: 9F, School rehabilitation phase one project.

Assemblymember Weddell: I move that we award the school rehabilitation phase one project contract to Dawson Construction LLC in an amount not to exceed $1,364,509.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Second.

Mayor Hanson: The motion by Weddell, second by Pomeroy, [01:29:00] to award the school rehabilitation phase one project contract to Dawson Construction LLC, in an amount not to exceed $1,364,509. Discussion.

Assemblymember Potter: Thank you, Your Honor. We also spoke about this at finance last night. It's relatively straightforward. Um, as Dr. Coughran mentioned, um, I think we're all looking forward to bringing our, um, you know, the, the, the, the physical state of the school up to the academic standards that it demonstrates, and it's just all general exciting to finally be moving forward with a bunch of these projects that we've been talking about for a long time. This, I mean, Dawson's already gonna be on site and then they'll be able to move into the incinerator project. So I think it's gonna be an exciting season of, um, of moving forward with, uh, getting some momentum on projects. [01:30:00]

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. I have, uh, visited this with, uh, the school board and former Manager Ryan, Director Ames, and, um, this is a very, very important project. Needs to happen. Um, from my recollection, I'd say the space between some of those sinks in the bathroom stalls was 30 inches maybe. Um, I think the school was finished in 1983. I don't think the ADA Act happened till several years later. So this is not something that was poor planning. It was the world changed. It became more accepting and understanding of challenges and, you know, 40-some years later, we need to fix it. Further discussion? Assemblymember Weddell.

Assemblymember Weddell: Thank you, Your Honor. I'd like to thank Dr. Coughran for coming tonight, um, speaking in support of this and also coming to other multiple Assembly [01:31:00] meetings where this topic was discussed. I agree with the members of the table and I am pleased to see this project progressing. Also, I'd like to thank Dr. Coughran for being a good sport because I know that the kindergarten class pied him in the face earlier today. So yeah, thanks for coming out.

Mayor Hanson: And he stuck it out till 8:30 on a school night too. Roll call.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Assemblymember Weddell: I move that we approve the school rehabilitation phase one project construction administration services fee proposal from CRW Engineering in an amount not to exceed $160,052.

Assemblymember Hillis: Second.

Mayor Hanson: We have a motion from Weddell and a second from Hillis to [01:32:00] approve the school rehabilitation phase one project construction administration services fee proposal from CRW Engineering in an amount not to exceed $160,052. Discussion? Roll call.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Now to 9G, Rock slide maintenance services project. And thank you, Dr. Coughran, for staying here.

Assemblymember Weddell: I move that we award the Rock Slide Maintenance Services project contract to Granite Construction Company in an amount not to exceed [01:33:00] $280,500.

Assemblymember Hillis: Second.

Mayor Hanson: A motion from Weddell, a second from Hillis, to award the Rock Slide Maintenance Services project contract to Granite Construction Company in an amount not to exceed $280,500. Discussion? Roll call.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Assemblymember Weddell: I move that we approve the Rock Slide Maintenance Services Project construction administration services fee proposal from Shannon & Wilson in an amount not to exceed [01:34:00] $78,770.

Assemblymember Hillis: Second.

Mayor Hanson: Motion from Weddell, second from Hillis, to approve the Rock Slide Maintenance Services Project construction administration services fee proposal from Shannon & Wilson in an amount not to exceed $78,770. Discussion? Roll call.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes.

Mayor Hanson: All right, we made it. Good job. Um, is there a topic for the whole table to consider? Okay, let's go to closing comments. Uh, let's start with Dan. [01:35:00]

Assemblymember Henry: Nothing, Your Honor.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Jay.

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Uh, nothing besides a regular guy who wants a pool. Other than that, uh, nothing else.

Mayor Hanson: Okay. Thank you. Charity.

Assemblymember Weddell: Nothing, Your Honor.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Alex.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Um, I will just echo the citizens who came and spoke, um, about the SAVE Act. If you don't know about it, please take a moment to, uh, review that and if you have strong opinions, reach out to your legislators and make them known. Thank you.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you. Uh, John.

Assemblymember Hillis: Your Honor, uh, believe it or not, spring is almost here. Um, and there is actually a kind of cool event coming up. It happened last year, it was kind of fun. It's called Taiya Days, and it's about water safety, which is something that we don't really have here in town. We have water, we don't have much water safety taught. Um, and I know [01:36:00] last year there were a couple of pileups on the Taiya River and a lot more people getting out on the water than I saw the year before. Um, so it's kind of exciting and it's cool to see. Um, so look for those posters around town. It starts the 11th of next month. Um, and it's a bunch of people that are associated with the water, from river guides to boat captains. It's about careers on the water, it's about safety on the water, it's about stories about the water. It'll be a good time. There'll be a schedule out, keep an eye out for that. Other than that, nothing. Thank you.

Mayor Hanson: Alright, thank you. Uh, Deb.

Assemblymember Potter: Uh, thank you, Your Honor. Um, uh, I wanna thank Public Works for keeping the streets clear. I want to thank all of us for having a really, um, productive and cooperative debate about the topic of the minutes, and I think that was a great example of, um, [01:37:00] working as, as we should. And, uh, so I just really appreciate it.

Um, I also appreciate, um, Chair Ports and Harbors Liz Lavoie coming by to give a report. This is, this is a big, big topic that I really hope the community is following. Um, if you can listen to, um, the last March 10th Ports and Harbor meeting, um, that there is an hour-long presentation that happened from a, from a different group. But if you can get to the discussion where we, um, discuss, you know, kind of what we wanna see go into this scoping study, I think it's, it's, it's prudent to do so. I think Port Director Jennings did a really good job in incorporating all of that Ports and Harbor discussion into developing the, the proposal.

So we will be seeing that at the table. Um, and, and this is a really important conversation. This [01:38:00] is one of those kind of, I think, defining, um, moments for, for this Assembly to be, to be discussing as we move forward, what, what do we want our port to look like? Because it is the three-year anniversary, and to think of everything that we've done in three years of owning our port is, is really impressive and really a testament to, to the staff, the quality of the staff that we have. Um, so I really hope people start tuning into that. Um, and, and just to emphasize this, this is a community discussion. It's, it's nothing that Ports and Harbor is deciding, a mining company is deciding. Um, it's, it's a community decision.

And the only other thing that I want to note, I saw, um, a post on social media right as I was on my way in here. There were some construction guys in town who went to the smoothie shop looking for a place to do laundry because, um, we are a community without laundry [01:39:00] facilities for visitors and residents alike. So I did just want to point out that I have been having ongoing conversations with Manager Deach and I think we are making some progress. Um, so, so stay tuned for that. Spoiler alert: probably gonna be requiring a budget amendment. But I think it goes back to the question of are we the 18th most visited cruise ship destination in the world? Or are we a year-round community of residents? And I think if we're gonna be a year-round community, we need to provide some of the services that one would expect. So, uh, stay tuned for that. And I do think that Skagway did step up and I'm sure the fellows got their laundry done.

Mayor Hanson: Thank you, Deb. Uh, I wanna congratulate permitting official Kristin Perry, uh, for [01:40:00] starting and taking on the many tasks of, uh, our, our renovations, our new construction. Um, to hit the ground running.

Uh, one thing I wanted to note, if you noticed, uh, in the ordinances, um, there are numbered lines. Um, the clerk brought that option to me. Um, it will not be in the final version, so, but it's something set for reference because it can be rather confusing if you, you know, we're talking about an ordinance and we're talking about the fourth paragraph and the third line. Um, this is something in, in legal documents. It's often in there. Um, and I thought we'd try it out. I think it might make it simpler when we're in maybe in complex discussions about amendments and other things, and he brought that option to me and I, it, it, it won't be the final version, but when it's presented to us, it's for our benefit to help reference things easily without confusion. And I thought it was a great idea.

Um, there's some other work that's going on [01:41:00] behind the scenes, um, staff and, uh, and, and in, in coordination with, uh, some of our cruise partners, we're working on, um, lobbying, um, the legislature and the governor to, uh, help fund, uh, the rockslide mitigation project. And that's something that I've been working on, uh, staff's been working on, and I've actually had really good feedback from, uh, from White Pass and, and others.

So, um, it's a tough budget cycle this year for the state, but the remaining CPV funds that are, um, available from a legislative grant are funds that Skagway has only received a few times, but they cannot be reallocated to other places other than cruise communities. So the state's looking for any way that they can spread money around. This is actually something that's restricted by law and it can't go to other needs such as roads, schools, you know, [01:42:00] hospitals, whatever they are. Um, it, it, it's, uh, it's something that I think, uh, we have a, a, a good chance and we've come up with a strategy, I think, to ask the state to help us, um, fund our rockslide mitigation.

Um, and we did get some feedback that maybe the RAISE grant still exists. We'll see. Um, it's hard to say, you know, when we get these little blurbs and letters, if we should be excited or if it's just another news splash. I'm not sure.

Um, I'll wrap it up. Some springtime vernal equinox and there's a lot of people showing up who are seasonal. Um, many of them are year, year, year after year business owners. And, um, they're a valued part of our town too. Um, and then we'll have lots of [01:43:00] new people. Their first time to town as well. So, um, it's the cycle, um, we see every year and, while it doesn't look like it, Assemblymember Hillis reminded us that spring is around the corner.

Alright, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.

Assemblymember Weddell: Move that we adjourn.

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Second.

Mayor Hanson: The motion from Weddell, second from Pomeroy. Discussion? Roll call.

Clerk Burnham: Hillis?

Assemblymember Hillis: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Weddell?

Assemblymember Weddell: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Henry?

Assemblymember Henry: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Potter?

Assemblymember Potter: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Pomeroy?

Assemblymember Pomeroy: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Burnham?

Assemblymember Jay Burnham: Yes.

Clerk Burnham: Six yes. Motion passes. Thank you.

Mayor Hanson: Meeting adjourned.

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