Dan The Road Trip Guy
Join Dan the Road Trip Guy as he explores the adventures, memories, and life lessons of diverse guests from all walks of life. This podcast goes beyond the road to celebrate the journey of life by uncovering stories of passion, resilience, and the pursuit of happiness. Whether you’re a seasoned traveler or simply love a good story, Dan the Road Trip Guy will leave you inspired and ready to embrace your own adventures. Buckle up and enjoy the ride!
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Dan The Road Trip Guy
How A Mother’s Road Trips And A Grandfather’s Guitars Shaped A Music Career
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Some stories are built on long highways and short, unforgettable moments. Today we meet Nashville songwriter and performer Christen Ball, whose creative life was shaped by a light blue Buick Park Avenue, a single mom who let her be the DJ, and a grandfather who handed down two extraordinary guitars. From open mics and awkward first gigs to arena dates on the Luke Bryan tour, Christen maps the real work of turning passion into a profession without losing the heart of why music matters.
We dig into the family roots that formed her sound: a mother serving as church organist and pianist, a grandfather whose bluegrass leads pulled her rhythm playing into focus, and the rare Gibson ’47 SJ and Martin ’69 D‑28 that still carry his touch. Christen opens up about the practical pivots that moved her from a mismatched admin role to a seven‑year stretch in a church music department, and eventually to full‑time artistry. Expect honest talk about how to align your day job with your dream, why alternative rock is her North Star, and what it takes to be the reliable bandmate who sings harmonies, plays guitar, and keeps the show moving.
There’s romance and real life here too. Christen and her husband Michael, a drummer found each other at a party, fell in love, then built a marriage that makes room for faith, honesty, and creative risk. She shares the thrill of opening for The Babys, the chaos of driving a station wagon through Times Square, and the steady joy of making music with friends—her version of a bucket list that actually sustains a career.
The most powerful turn arrives with forgiveness. After 27 years without her father, Christen chose to reconnect near the end of his life, a decision that brought grief, peace, and lasting freedom. It’s a reminder that letting go doesn’t erase the past, but it does clear space for leading a better life. Press play to hear a grounded, hopeful roadmap for artists and listeners alike. If this story moved you, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review to help more people find the show.
You can find Christen at https://www.christenballmusic.com
Welcome to Dan the Road Trip Guy. I'm your host Dan, and each week we'll embark on a new adventure, discovering memory and life lessons of our incredible guests. From everyday travelers to thrill seekers and everyone in between, this podcast is your front road seat to inspiring stories of passion, resilience, and the pursuit of happiness. So buckle up and enjoy the ride. Well, I am on a road trip today with a new friend that I met through a mutual friend. And I'm excited. She is based in Nashville. She is a songwriter. She is a performer. And I am just excited to talk to her and learn about her life journey to music in Nashville, Tennessee. So her name is Kristen Ball. And I again I'm just excited to have her here. Welcome to the show, Kristen.
SPEAKER_00:Thanks for having me, Dan.
SPEAKER_01:It's a pleasure to have you here. So this is uh Dan the Road Trip Guy, and I always start with a couple of basic car questions. Do you have a great first car story or just a funny car story?
SPEAKER_00:I guess probably my first car was I my my grandfather was like a a dad to me, and he he bought me my first car, but it was uh Buick Park Avenue.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And it was this like, and it was very old. I can't remember the year on it, but I remember that it was like driving a living room on wheels. And I feel like many of the beds I've slept in have not been as comfortable as that first car that I have, the seats from it. So I just I and I only had that car for a couple, I think I only had it for less than a year because then I went to I sold it and went to college. Sure. And then moved to Nashville and bought my own car. Yeah, I guess that would be my first car story because that that was my first car.
SPEAKER_01:What color was it?
SPEAKER_00:It was light blue.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And I loved it. I I wish, man, like I wish I could find another car like that because it was it was super cool.
SPEAKER_01:Now, did that have a big bench seat in the front or bucket seats?
SPEAKER_00:It was a bench seat. Like it was like all the way across. Yeah. Um, and so it it was just it was such a big car.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Like, how is this not classified as a minivan?
SPEAKER_01:Those big cars were a pleasure to uh get around in.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You know, Buick always says this is not your grandfather's Buick, you know, these days. That's their tagline.
SPEAKER_00:But it was for me.
SPEAKER_01:That's great. Good story. Love first car stories. Hey, uh well, you're a performer, so I assume you've been on some trips, but any any road trips in your life or vacations or just touring uh that stick out in your mind as just a trip that is just so memorable or something happened on that trip?
SPEAKER_00:Probably, honestly, probably before I started touring. Um, so I grew up, my mom was a single mom. We would go on these little road trips together. And um, as I I was just like, it's as I'm just thinking about road trips, and probably my trips with her are just some of my fondest memories in general. Um, she loved rock and roll, and so we would take these road trips to go see the Moody Blues.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if you remember them, but they I'm a little older than you, so yes.
SPEAKER_00:We were literally groupies. I mean, I guess that is what a groupie is, is we would follow around this band. We'd take these trips, and it's like we didn't by American standards, like we didn't have a ton, and so we didn't get to do the the norm. And I don't even say that it's normal necessarily, but some people take, you know, two weeks and go to Florida, and and that's awesome. But it's like we would take like a day or two and um go to a best western or like you know, a budget hotel and that was drivable, you know, and we would go see this band. And um, it was just some of the best times. Like my mom, I think one of my favorite parts of doing trips with her was she would let me be the DJ in the car. Okay. And like I would get to pick the music. And I introduced my mother to all of these different people, like Radiohead and Jeff Buckley, and people that I wouldn't have expected my mother to like. I mean, InSync also, which it's like I I have this vivid memory of us just jamming out to InSync in the car. And it's like, whose mom does that? I mean, it was just so cool. I feel like the normal thing would be her trying to like show me the music that she wanted to listen to. But it's like she always would just like want to listen to what I wanted to listen to, and then some like a lot of times she would come away just really liking it. And so, and if she didn't like it, she'd be honest too, and she'd be like, that's not for me. But that was always so fun. Um, my first out-of-town gig. So I grew up in Virginia, and my first out-of-town gig was this coffee house in Maryland. I don't even know if it's still there, but it's called Joe's Place. I called them, I was in high school and I begged them to let me come and play. And they were like, Well, you can come play for our open mic. And um, and so my mom and I drove all the way from Yorktown, Virginia up to Maryland, and I played at this coffee house. It was so cool. And then my mom got the idea of she was like, Well, since we're driving to Baltimore, Maryland, it just makes sense for us to drive all the way to New York City.
SPEAKER_03:Of course.
SPEAKER_00:And then, of course, when we got to New York City, I'll never forget my mom. You know, she I think that she had only been there when she was a little girl or something, so she didn't really know how the town worked. But she drove our, it was we had a station wagon, it was like a Ford Escort station wagon. Yeah, speaking of cars. But I remember we drove that thing through Times Square, and it was just a disaster because I mean, drivers in New York City are very aggressive, and it's most people don't drive in New York. Like, it's like actually professional drivers that are taxi drivers just going. It was like, well, this is something that okay, like add this to my things list of things not to do is to drive your own car through Times Square.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. Wow. What uh great memories with your mom.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Sounds like your mom, maybe did she introduce you to music?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so both her and my grandfather did. So my mom is an organist, pianist, like pipe organ, like classical musician, um, which is funny because she loves rock and roll, but um, she loves classical as well. She she I I grew up with her like making music in church. And it's like she was like, she was hired like on staff at these churches to be like organist, pianist, like play for the services, play for weddings. I did my first, I started taking piano lessons when I was eight years old, but it was really the guitar, like I was very close with my grandfather, and he was he did music as a hobby, but he was like very high-level hobbyist. You know, it's like like he could have been a professional. He played guitar, and it was really the guitar that really got me into songwriting. And it's like guitar was always a lot more natural for me. And so my mom initially got me into music, but my grandpa kept me in music. Um, and he we we just like it's like he he played our styles were very different, like because he played bluegrass. I always wanted to play like rock or pop music, and so I ended up we would play when we would play together, I would play rhythm guitar and he'd do all these lead things, and he was so good. But he actually, when I was in, I guess in high school, like just first learning guitar, he gave me um, it ended up, he didn't realize how valuable it was, but it was this Gibson 1947 SJ that's a super rare model. Okay, he bought it from his brother in the 50s or 60s for 50 bucks, and like he didn't know how valuable that it was, and he gave it to this kid, like you know, that was just learning music, but that became my favorite guitar. And then when he passed away, he left me, it was his Martin D28 from 1969. I have two guitars that my grandpa like passed on to me, which is super sweet. And so it's like he not only kept me in music at a young age, but he has kept me in music even after he's left us or is no longer with us. Like he's kept me in music because I play his guitars.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was gonna be a question. Do you play those guitars?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I do. I just got the the Martin was having some issues recently. The bridge was like lifting up. I just played it at a show at Franklin Theater, and like it was a it was a miracle that it got through the show and stayed in tune. But um, I recently got it fixed. I've been playing it like a lot more now that it's in better shape.
SPEAKER_01:So do you do you still play the piano or is are you strictly on the guitar mostly?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's funny. Like, so when I play piano, it's mostly for um other artists. Okay. Um, like my husband and I play in a band with one of my producers. I play keys for him, but I love the piano. I actually, it's funny. Like yesterday I had a session, like recording, we were recording one of the songs for my next album. This producer, Johnny, was like, he was like, Do you want to play piano on this song? And I was like, actually, yes, I do. Um, it's funny that you asked that because just last night I played piano on my song, and and that's kind of a rare, usually in the studio I just play guitar for myself and and sing, obviously.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But um I do love the piano. It's just it's a lot to I I will say, like, it's a lot to schlep around just because if they don't like have a piano already there. And I like I like to play like um a full piano if I can, like instead of a smaller one.
SPEAKER_03:Sure.
SPEAKER_00:So it's just sometimes it's not conducive bringing a piano, um, if that makes sense. And so sometimes guitar is just a little bit easier, it's a little more road friendly, I guess.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, sure. Unless you got that big Buick, I guess you can put a full piano in it. I could have just kept that and would have been so looking back, when was your first paid gig? Do you remember?
SPEAKER_00:Uh yes, I do very vividly actually. So it was in high school. It was at um it was at a coffee shop in it was somewhere in the Hampton Roads area, like because I grew up in Virginia. I remember, of course, my mom drove me. I remember they had promised me somehow. I I can't, this is a lot for like a coffee shop to pay a teenager, but they had promised me$300. Wow. Which is like a honestly a bigger paying gig like for a teenager, like, you know. And I remember at the end of the night, they didn't pay me. My I got in the car with my mom. My mom, and I'm I'm I've been known like as even as a kid, like it's like I'm just more of a people pleaser kind of person. And my mom, I'll never forget it. She was like, All right, honey. She's like, you're gonna go back in and you're gonna ask for it. And she because she knew she could do it, you know, as my mom. But she was like, This is one of these times where this is gonna be a lesson for you, and like you need to, you're gonna have to do this in your career like later on.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so I walked back in there, this shy teenager, and I was like, was I supposed to get paid? And the guy was like, Yep. And like I remember him like pulling all the money out of the cash register. He paid me, like, and probably, I mean, looking back, probably like they would have mailed me a check or something.
SPEAKER_03:Sure.
SPEAKER_00:Like it's like I just didn't know how it worked back then. But I'll never forget like her, like such valuable advice, like from my mom, just learning to because as a musician, you know, you're self-employed and you're having to advocate for yourself all the time. You know, little did she know I would have to ask many people after that, like, hey, like, when is payment coming in for this gig?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Kind of goes with the starving artist. Uh exactly. Yeah. So you grew up in Virginia, but somehow you made your way to Nashville, Tennessee. Music Music Capital. Uh take us on that journey of how you ended up at Nashville.
SPEAKER_00:Funny. Like, I didn't mean to talk about my mom so much today, but she like we were just so close. Like, you know, like her being a single mom. Like, so when I so I went to college in, I'm giving you context, by the way. Sure. Like, so when I went to college, I I grew up in Virginia, and then I went to college in Tulsa, and my mom came with me to Tulsa, and she got a job at the university where I went, and um, that helped pay for my tuition there. Then when um while I was in college, like I realized like music was my calling, and I thought of either moving to LA or New York or Nashville. Like those were the three places on my list. And we only visited Nashville, and it's like it was just very clear. I don't know. I've it's I I wonder even if like in my head back then it's like New York or LA, it just would have been a bit too far reaching because it's I mean, it's expensive and it's like tougher out there. And so we came to Nashville, and I remember like we had no plans. I we were at the hotel, and there my favorite band, one of my favorite bands when I was in high school was this band Luna Halo. And I knew that they had recorded at Dark Horse Studio um in Nashville. And so my mom and I had made this trip just to check out Nashville, no plans. We're in the hotel. We call on the phone, Dark Horse Studio. We're like, hey, can we come look at this studio today? Robin Crow answered the phone and he's like, Oh, I'm the owner. But he's like, why don't he's like, I will personally like walk you around the premises. And so we went to this studio in Nashville, and it was really Robin's advice because like I was saying, you know, I wanted to do music, and he was like, Well, if you're going to do Christian music, he was like, You really should move to Nashville. Honestly, it sounds crazy, but like that was I call it a God whim. Because it was totally a whim. But that was why I moved to Nashville. Like it's like his just his advice, like, and it's funny, like everything when I moved here just kind of fell into place for me. I I ended up um after moving here, I got a job at a church in Brentwood. They were Brentwood Methodists, like they were just like so supportive. They actually, it's funny, they hired me on as an administrative assistant at first, which is a terrible job for a creative person.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's not good.
SPEAKER_00:It's not good. And honestly, they should have fired me because um I couldn't even hardly work the copier. It was terrible. I instead of firing me, they promoted me. They were like, let's just create a job for you, like in the music department. I worked there for seven years, and then I started working, I started touring, just playing with other artists, and that ended up kind of taking over for a while. And that ended up, I started going part-time at the church, and then I went more and more part-time, like just as touring picked up. It was funny, like there got there came a point where I ended up my only work days were Wednesdays and Sundays, and I was gonna be on the road for the next three Wednesdays and Sundays.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so I was like, okay, it's time for me to resign. And ever since then, like I've been doing music um just full time. Um, just like like touring, um, playing in the studio. What I'm most focused on now is my own music. Like it's like I do my own like genre or whatever is alternative rock, play shows and record and songwrite. And then to make money, um, I play for other artists. And like like I sing harmonies on the road, play guitar, whatever people need me to do. My my North Star like is my own stuff.
SPEAKER_03:Sure.
SPEAKER_00:Um, and so it's like it's cool that I have my day job is an adjacent of my calling, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_01:It does. Yeah, good for you. Wow.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Any big names that we know that you've uh played with?
SPEAKER_00:Let's see. So this summer I got to, I was playing with an artist named May Estes. She's amazing. And we were on the Luke Bryan tour.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And so like those shows were all like arenas, like amphitheaters. Luke Bryan is like, it's it's crazy. Like it's like all the shows were sold out. Like it was, he's just so popular. Like, and it's like, and he's even popular with like the younger I don't know, it's called Gen at Gen Z or whatever. I don't know. Gen Z, I think.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And then like with May, we've opened for Brad Paisley, for Ashley McBride, for Cody Johnson. There's there's other names, but they're I'm just there's there's a long list. But then um years ago, I was in a trio and we did like a three-week tour opening for Lone Star.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And then trying to think most recently, um, I got to like as an artist, like I got to open for the babies. Like that was just like such a dream come true. That was at Franklin Theater, which was like that was one of my biggest shows, like as an artist, and that was just so special. Holly Bizaha, who is one of the singers in The Babies, like she's just been a big supporter of my music, and um, it was just such an honor to to get that call.
SPEAKER_01:Thanks for sharing that. Uh, you did mention your husband earlier and playing in a band, and you'd shared with me that he's a drummer.
SPEAKER_00:He's a drummer, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:How did how did you all meet?
SPEAKER_00:So we met actually through our mutual friend through Philip Peters.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:So I've known Philip forever. I have been involved with um his nonprofit Restore Haiti for years. Just through, I say involved, but it's like I've just gone gone on um some trips with them. And we have a sponsored child. Um, she's not a child anymore, actually, which is crazy. Like she's like an adult, which is time flies. Philip had a party at his house. This was in 2013, I believe. And it was just church friends, work friends, and my husband, Michael, was his roommate at the time.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And so I went to this party just because I was friends with Philip and he'd invited me. I actually didn't even want to go because I I can be kind of like an introvert at parties. Like I just they're I like more, it's funny, I love to perform in front of lots of people. But as far as like quality time, I love more like one on one or small groups. I show up at this party, I walk in, and there's Michael, and he's there again. He didn't want to be there either. Like it's like he's he's an introvert too. I walk up to him and I was like, hey, I I remember you from one of my shows or from something. And because I had met Michael before. Like Philip had actually brought him to one of my shows before.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And Michael was like, I don't remember you. Um, he's very honest. And it's actually one of my favorite qualities about him. It's just like his honesty. Like, like what you see is what you get. But we ended up, we ended up talking for four hours. At the end of the night, he got my number. Um, he walked me to my car. And after we had parted ways, like I sat down in my car and then he went back up to his room. And both of us said out loud, we were right. Did we just meet our spouse and we told each other that on the second date? Actually, I don't recommend that for everybody, but it was what worked for us. We were married 10 months later. Man, like Michael's still the best, he's the best person I've ever met. We've been married 11 years now. We work together a lot. Like, it's like he plays in my band. We just play music together a lot. I like to say that he's the drummer. You know that phrase, some people walk to the beat of a different drummer, and I'm like, Michael is the drummer that like my heart beats to. It's just he's so awesome and like just loves the Lord so much and just such a really great person, loyal friend. I can go on and on. I actually recorded a song about him yesterday. Um, I wanted to make sure on my album that I had a song about him on there. Anyway, needless to say, like he's just so special and just such an amazing person.
SPEAKER_01:We wish you long years together.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, good story. Imagine today you can take a road trip with anyone, living or deceased. Who would it be? Where would you go? What would you talk about?
SPEAKER_00:Wow. Man, that's such a great question. I would probably so my music hero is Jeff Buckley.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:He passed away when he was only 30 years old, like back in the 90s. I'm just such a big fan of of not only his music, but the way he approached artistry. He also, like, I love New York City. He made new East Village in New York City his home. I think it would be with Jeff Buckley. Okay. And I think it would be to New York City. And it's like I would want him to show me around like where he played in New York City.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And I would just want to glean all types of just like advice from him. And yeah, I would just love, I wish I could. He's he's actually like, he would be at the top of my bucket list of people I could meet and spend time with. I actually got to meet his mother just a few weeks ago. I did a tribute event um for him. Um, it was the 28th annual like Jeff Buckley tribute show.
SPEAKER_01:Wow, okay.
SPEAKER_00:And um, I was like a featured artist for it, and his mom was there. And so I did get to meet his mom. Oh fun. And that was so special. I wish I could take a road trip with him because that would be super cool.
SPEAKER_01:That's a good uh good road trip.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Anything on your bucket list in life? Um, most people tell me, Dan, I I don't have a bucket list. Okay, is there anything you want to do that's just kind of fun that, hey, I want to do this?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, honestly, it's I like to say I have one thing on my bucket list and it's to make music with my friends. Uh and I get to do that. And so I'm like, everything else that happens for me is just like icing on the cake. Like it's like I'm it's an interesting thing, isn't it? Because it's like you want, I think the secret of I think this is in the Bible too. Like it's like the secret of happiness is being content in all circumstances. So it's like you want to be content. But as an artist, of course I'm a dreamer as well. And so it's like there's things that so I will say, like, it's like other things I'd like to do. I guess just keep doing what I'm doing and just finding more people that resonate with the music that that I make and just finding more people where the music touches them.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um, but it's like just getting to make music with my friends and my husband, that's that's enough for me. And so I'm so thankful that I get to do that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, good for you. Yeah. Living uh living your bucket list one day and yeah, that's great.
SPEAKER_00:That sounds like a title.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. Maybe we'll we'll have to work on that. That'll be a song for you. You can write a song about bucket list. Let me ask you this.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I love to leave my listeners with some advice, life advice, living a better life, living a good life, whatever we want to call it. What could you tell them?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I would tell them probably a really short story about my own experience with forgiveness. My advice would just be to forgive. Like if anybody has done any anything bad to you, or like if there's any type of grievance, just there's so much freedom in letting it go in my own life. So my dad was out of my life for 27 years. And then he, um, his sister actually called me, said that he was, he told she told me that he was dying of cancer, that it was his dying wish to see me again. We have met, but like to see me again. Um, and so my husband and I went four different times to see my dad before he passed away. Um, it's a very complicated story. Like there's there was abuse involved, like just it's just a complicated web of things. I had a lot to forgive him for. I'll say that. And he he probably had a lot to forgive me for. I was able to tell him in person that I forgive him. Michael and I actually led him to the Lord just a few days before he passed away. I got to baptize him. When his sister called me the day after he had passed away, letting me know that he'd passed away, I knew that he was in heaven just because like he had made the decision to receive Jesus as his savior. I was given after a very complicated and tangled web of blaming my dad for a lot of things. There has been great freedom in letting go and forgiving him. Not everybody deserves forgiveness. I don't deserve forgiveness, but it's like the Lord gives it to us anyway. And so we're called to live by that. My advice to anybody would be to forgive and live a life of forgiveness because there's just great freedom in that. I'm I'm so excited that someday I'll get to see my dad on the other side and we'll be able to get to know each other at that time.
SPEAKER_01:That's great advice. Yeah, it's funny when you do end up forgiving someone, it it just frees you. Absolutely. Carry around all this harboring of maybe ill will, but then also this guilt and and all this stuff. And it just great advice.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you.
SPEAKER_01:Well, Kristen, this has been fun for me.
SPEAKER_03:It's been fun for me too. Thank you for it.
SPEAKER_01:It's a pleasure to meet you. I can't wait to be in Nashville sometime and find out where you're at and get to see one of your shows. So before we go though, before we get out of our virtual car here, yeah, uh tell my listeners how to find you, your music, all that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So you can find me. Probably the easiest way to find me is just through my website. It's Kristen Ballmusic.com. Kristen is spelled C-H-R-I-S-T-E-N. And so it's like you can my handle for like all my social media. I'm on all of those things like Instagram and TikTok. You can find me there at Kristen Ballmusic.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Cool.
SPEAKER_01:Well, appreciate that. And again, thank you so much.
SPEAKER_00:Thanks for having me, Dan. This has been amazing. Such a pleasure.
SPEAKER_01:Thank you for tuning in to Dan the Road Trip Guy. I hope you enjoyed our journey today and the stories that were shared. If you have any thoughts or questions or stories of your own, I'd love to hear from you. Feel free to reach out to me anytime. Don't forget to share this podcast with your friends and family and help us to spread the joy of road trips and great conversations. Until next time, keep driving, keep exploring, and keep having those amazing conversations. Safe travels. And remember, you can find me on the internet at day in the road tripguy.com.
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