Making Pondo with Rachel Netherton

 In this episode we talk to Rachel Netherton. Rachel played the comic book super hero "Fren-Zee" and her counter part "Zoe" in two of our films, "Revenge of Zoe" and "The Love Song of William H. Shaw."

The Love Song of William H Shaw Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz4VOHtdid0

Bradford Trojan-Game Day Music Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUHgzhM4sEY&pp=ygUpQnJhZGZvcmQgVHJvamFuLUdhbWUgRGF5IE11c2ljIFZpZGVvIExpbms%3D

Fractured:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6557404/?ref_=nm_ov_bio_lk

That Thing You Do! Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhyO3Pc6oSI

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Welcome to Making Pondo and Talking Pondo. Talking Pondo is a podcast where we pick out two movies each week and talk about them in detail. Making Pondo is a podcast where we talk to people we've made films with and we discuss all their experiences on set. Today on Making Pondo, we interview Rachel Netherton, who was acted in two of our feature films.

SPEAKER_03 0:28

And we're back, Marty. Alright, we're back once again. Yes. And this time we have uh one of our one of our great actresses, one of the people that we really work a lot with, and uh does one of the big characters for us. So he skips an introduction.

SPEAKER_04 0:46

I'm excited. At long last, it's Rachel Netherton.

SPEAKER_07 0:52

Hi, everybody. I'm glad to be part of this. It seems like a fun project that you guys are starting up.

SPEAKER_04 0:59

Yeah, so we're trying to it's been good so far. It's it's a it's a nice chance to get back in touch with everybody and you know, touch face and some people that we haven't talked to in quite some time.

SPEAKER_07 1:11

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:13

Um so Rachel for our uh our uh viewing our listening audience, not our viewing audience, our listening audience, um, she plays uh the character Frenzy, who is a uh comic book character that um the main character in our our our films a writer named Billy is uh sort of haunted and obsessed with. Song haunted by and obsessed with. Um that was two films, I think.

SPEAKER_04 1:39

Yeah, it was uh Revenge of Zoe and uh the new love song of William H. Shaw coming soon. But it feels like and I know it's only been two movies, but it feels like we've done, you know, all five with Rachel.

SPEAKER_03 1:55

Yeah. Yeah, I don't I was thinking about it and I was like, did we have another person that's a frenzy? We did.

SPEAKER_04 2:00

Yeah, there was somebody else playing Frenzy a long, long time ago for one day of shooting. There's only one person movie.

SPEAKER_07 2:10

I appreciate that. It was really fun. It was a definitely very I mean, I've not been in that many things, but it was a very fun, probably the funnest experience, just because the crew, everyone that was on it, the excitement you guys had for it. Um it was just different. It was fun to not talk. Like the the few talking roles I did have were fun in the second one, but it was it was just different, it was cool. I mean, I was honestly pretty stoned out of most of it. So it was kind of it was like I was part of I really got into the world, you know, of just being like, I'm not even here, like you can't see only one person can see me.

SPEAKER_03 2:46

That's fantastic. Yeah, she plays a uh uh superhero, but she doesn't talk, she whispers in the main character's ear, but you don't hear her talk during the film. So everything she had to do was through emoting, which was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_04 3:01

So, do you think that frenzy is part of Billy's imagination, or do you see frenzy as part of Billy's subconscious? What was your interpretation of it? Good question.

SPEAKER_07 3:16

I'm not sure I differentiated between it because I kind of think of them as the same of imagination and subconscious, our subconscious imagines things that are very strong. So I feel like they're pretty intertwined for me. Because I've got some, you know, some friends in my head that you know look similar to me or different, you know. Just I'm a I'm a little kooky, I'm a little crazy. I've got some diagnoses, diagnoses, uh, but I never really interpret them as one or the other. It's together, it's a subconscious or your conscious mind imagining something that your subconscious is trying to get through. So both.

SPEAKER_04 3:52

Yeah, we never really lay it out, you know, it's this way or or this way. You know, you could some people could watch the movie and think that frenzy really is some supernatural force coming in, or you could just think, oh, it's just all in his head. Or my my most recent interpretation was, oh, frenzy is his sponsor in the new movie.

SPEAKER_06 4:14

She acts like it sometimes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:17

That's definitely yeah. When we wrote her, I always in the beginning, I always thought of her as like a ghost, right? Like I always thought like a ghost, but then later on she became I don't know, like a muse or an alter ego or uh uh uh thing he created, right? To to in his head that he could interact with and and um and then it became you know, of course he's billy, so it's kind of not really all there at the time. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 4:48

Yeah, it morphed a bit.

SPEAKER_03 4:49

Yeah, it did. But it really well, and that's how they uh anybody who who writes will tell you that once you get the characters stood up on their feet and going, your the your intentions that you have for the script may not be what actually happens because the characters kind of sort of have to take a life of their own.

SPEAKER_06 5:07

Yeah, I see.

SPEAKER_07 5:08

I think it's the same thing, it's imagination and subconscious coming into play. You put your creative effort into it and it starts taking a life of its own, whether that be your subconscious pushing it one way or the other without you really seeing it going there yet, or if it is your imagination pulling from different experiences. So that's a good point.

SPEAKER_03 5:28

So how did you how did you meet the Pondo Enterprises gang? How did we drag you into all this?

SPEAKER_07 5:35

From what I remember, uh my husband had wanted me to start like I was dabbling in acting because he it's his one of his passions. So he had said, like, you know, do you want to try any of this? Like, all right, sure. So he sent me a link, I think, on Facebook, that I believe Eric had posted for casting. So I looked at it, I was looking over um just all the different roles of you know, reading roles. So obviously I didn't even think about Frenzy or that she was even gonna be in it, and then went into reading, and you guys were like, So there's someone else that we'd actually prefer you to play. So that was quite interesting. I was like, what are you talking about? Like, there's only two girls. Like, you want me to play a guy? Like, what's going on here? So that was my interaction.

SPEAKER_03 6:19

That's right. We did switch around the casting quite a bit from from what they actually auditioned for. I'd forgotten about that because we were like, no, you you hear, you hear, you hear. That's gonna work way better. And in my opinion, it just did.

SPEAKER_06 6:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:36

No sides to read for Frenzy, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_07 6:39

So no, yeah, I don't even know how you would have cast, I mean, other than just appearances, I guess. I don't know really how you cast for that.

SPEAKER_04 6:49

The general vibe, I guess, for some reason we're just like, no, that's just you had a physicality that the others didn't, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_03 6:55

Like you had I don't know, you just you you see you looked more super hair heroine-esque, in my opinion. I was like, I could see her in like a cape, sure.

SPEAKER_06 7:08

No capes.

SPEAKER_04 7:09

See, the the the really funny thing is, is uh if I remember right, didn't it come down between Rachel and Olivia for frenzy? Because on Olivia's Reel, we had seen that she had done some action work before. And so of course, you know, it ended up Rachel is Frenzy and Olivia becomes Katie. But the funny thing is, Katie is the tattoo shop owner and she has no tattoos in real life, and so we were giving her fake tattoos while we're covering up Rachel's real tattoos because Frenzy's not supposed to have any, so it's just kind of I mean, if you had asked her from a logical point of view, that's yes, we would have cast we would have cast her as Katie because yes, she's covered in tattoo.

SPEAKER_03 7:52

And I I we've I've I think we've had this argument where I've said please stop getting tattoos, and it just it just it never it's she's like it's never gonna happen, dude. Just keep just keep getting the makeup out and covering them up.

SPEAKER_07 8:05

You see, the whole other arm is covered now, right?

SPEAKER_03 8:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 8:10

Not the inside yet. You don't have to cover the inside that you're not gonna see, anyways. But yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:16

One of the big saving graces was long gloves. You wore those long, long gloves, so we didn't really have to um cover you in well, other than the desert scene where we were like makeup, just put makeup all over her, just on her back, on her arms, everywhere.

SPEAKER_07 8:31

Oh god, they might we kept switching gloves too because if I touched anything or moved, then I had to pull the gloves up, and then the makeup would get on the gloves and smear down.

SPEAKER_03 8:40

And yeah, I mean what five, six pairs we went through over. Oh, really? Like it's like I remember at one point we were like, This is the last pair of gloves.

SPEAKER_04 8:48

I was like, okay. This is ordered three more, they'll be here on Monday. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 8:53

Yep. I think a few of them I think ripped or something. Oh, and one of them got cactus in it. I think I cut one with a knife or the apple, the other one. I'm not the most I don't have nice things for a reason.

unknown 9:06

I break them.

SPEAKER_04 9:07

Those gloves, I mean, they just they're not long for the world once you start wearing them and using them. They yeah, you can only get like a day or two at the most. Because, like you're saying, makeup or cactus or just just general use, and it's like, oh, another one's porn, put another pair on. And the audience never knows, they always think it's the same pair of gloves.

SPEAKER_06 9:25

Well, because they are, I mean, they are the same, basically.

SPEAKER_03 9:29

The cactus. I forgot about that. You went reached out to that cactus and you had those things all in your finger. Remember, I'm sitting there going, What are you you know, plucking finger things out of your finger? It was ridiculous.

SPEAKER_04 9:39

Well, audiences will finally get to see some of the tattoos briefly in Love Song, as you remember the uh post-apocalyptic sequence where it's friends in the future or whatever, walking around, and many of the tattoos were clearly on display. And if we went and did reshoots for that tomorrow, we'd have to cover the new ones up so they wouldn't interfere with I'm pretty sure that's Rachel's favorite shooting day in Love Song. Oh, that was a brutal one.

SPEAKER_07 10:06

I was like, I was a very upset person in that. I was like, I was okay in the middle, and then I was just pissed off the rest of the whole rest of the day. I was like, I'm ready to kill someone.

SPEAKER_03 10:15

When you got to the when you got to the set behind the bar, we were ready, you were just livid. And I was like, Oh, I did not realize that's what this was gonna be. Like I forgot you guys were gonna be like, hey, let's stop for a light lunch. We'll shoot there real quick, we'll shoot there real quick, and we'll head back. No, it was an all-day through the sun, yeah, these boots that you hate, and you're like, I hate these boots, and they hurt my feet, and I'm just like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 10:40

It was a couple miles of walking too. It wasn't just like, oh, across the street. No, we're gonna walk down this and then all the way back. Oh, we forgot we're gonna go over there. Let's go back one more time. It's like, what? Who else is wearing high heels right now? No one. You guys don't do no no. So yeah, that one was that was one for the books.

SPEAKER_03 10:58

Yes, that that was the one where I was like, all right, I think this is we've reached the like that's the limit. You can't go any further.

SPEAKER_05 11:05

Yeah. But I mean, hopefully it looks good.

SPEAKER_03 11:10

As long as it looks good, it's it's the it's the opening title sequence of the film. So it looks great. In my opinion, it looks it looks really good.

SPEAKER_04 11:19

It is nice because it's nice and barren, and you're like the only one walking through all these empty landscapes. So I mean they weren't taking you out there for the we gotta grab it while there's nobody over here, but then it was like, what? How many miles did they make you walk?

SPEAKER_03 11:33

Yeah, it's you can tell, like yeah, from a shooting perspective, like when we watched the footage, like Jesus, this is like six locations. What the hell? And then it was like, oh, this is an order, but it looks great. I mean, it really, really looks like good footage.

SPEAKER_07 11:47

Good, I'm glad.

SPEAKER_04 11:49

All right, it wasn't like they were gonna go out and do two or three different days, they had to grab it all at once.

SPEAKER_07 11:54

So it was yeah, I was like, I'm I understood it. Yeah, I didn't look because I understood it, didn't mean that I was enjoying it, but that's I mean, the rational self at least was able to be like, all right, you're not storming off, you're not leaving, like this is the only time no one's here. How are we gonna do this again? We don't know if it's gonna last.

SPEAKER_03 12:13

And it's yeah, and it's the middle, it's it's in the ramp up to COVID. So it's like if we don't get it now, we may not get it at all.

SPEAKER_07 12:20

Uh yeah, unless you want to pay to shut down the U of A, like that's not gonna, yeah, you're not gonna get that.

SPEAKER_04 12:25

Yeah, so you get that authentic uh scowling, which is is part acting, part real. So you're more authentic than that.

SPEAKER_07 12:34

There's probably a few shots where I can be like, that's real, that's not acting at all. I'm that upset right now.

SPEAKER_03 12:39

That's me wanting to kill, that's me wanting to kill Christian. Do it again.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 12:48

So you've only done uh a couple other acting roles.

SPEAKER_07 12:52

Yeah, so I did the main one that I started in was Fractured, which was one that my husband wrote and that I helped uh co-write and edit, and just it was a pet project, so it was real fun. It was a bunch of our friends, and took about a year, I believe, to shoot. Um, so there's a lot of memories correlated with like one of our apartments that we lived in. So it was a very fun experience. Um, you you can see my changing, you know, my color, my hair at one point, and then I cut my hair one, you know. So it was there's some discrepancies, but it was fun working with. Uh, after that, uh, one night in October I did with Chris Carter. Um, that one was really fun. I wasn't a huge fan of how it turned out because it was an anthology that did not coincide and was just very not my favorite, but my story within the anthology, which I acted with my husband in, was very fun. Um, it was my husband, myself, and then one of our friends. I was also in fractured actually, and it was horror. So it was very fun. I love horror movies. Um, I've always wanted to do that with like fantasy horror. I had these big old nails on and veins airbrushed over my whole body. It was grayed out. Um, it was very, very fun, and it was, you know, there was the whole spectrum of me being scared and then angry, you know, all these different things. So I had to cry on Q, which was a new experience, which was fun, not fun, but interesting new experience.

SPEAKER_03 14:29

New talent, new talent acquired.

SPEAKER_07 14:32

Yeah, so figured out I could do that. Um, and then I don't I can't think of any other like features. I think those are the main three, and then you guys with the two. I think you were after fractured. I don't do have a great memory. I think it's Axter Fractured. I did the first uh film with you guys, and then yeah, way after both all three of those was the the most recent one that we did. Little Monshaw.

SPEAKER_04 15:02

We got Nathan in a briefly in a scene with you. Uh I'll I'll let the viewers of Love Song see if they can spot your husband, Nathan.

SPEAKER_07 15:10

Oh, yeah. I was like, what did we do? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:12

Did manage to get him in there. It's funny that you mentioned uh shooting in places that you don't live at anymore, because it seems like in every movie that Cliff and I have done, almost every location ends up being gone. Like the business is gone, or the person doesn't live in that house anymore. And so you just you watch the movie and it's like, yep, there's all those places that we don't have access to or just not there anymore. So you're experiencing that as well. It's kind of nice in a way how it keeps like, oh, you have a memory of that old apartment now because it's in it's in the movie. It's like the unique things that we get from the filmmaking perspective that an audience member would never know or care about because, like, oh, that's your old house, great. But for us, it's like, oh, they're like our home movies in a way, too.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:02

So outside of acting, is there anything else in the film field that you would want to pursue, like writing or directing or or anything?

SPEAKER_07 16:11

I enjoy co-writing. Um, I like I'm not people will say, like, oh, you're creative. I'm like, no, I'm really not creative. I'm not. Like, I enjoy being amused for people and helping pull out their creative thoughts and structure them. Yeah. And you know, help them mold them a certain way, and almost like a a talk therapist would of just helping you work through things and get to where you need to go uh before writing. So I mean I did I did lots of probably took as many writing classes as I did math class in college uh just because I loved it. So I started my creative writing teacher was like, you need to be a creative short story writer because you're great at it. And I love it, it's very fun. Um, but it has to come from somewhere. And so a lot of like I have a whole you know thumb drive of stories, and they're just so dark and so fucked up and like which is fine. But that's why I'm like, consult me if you need to, you know, talk about severe issues or you know, psychopaths or killers or that kind of thing. I'll help you, you know, write and research and get it perfect, um, which is what I helped on fractured basically, is the when this guy needs to have a psychotic break, um, what would lead up to it, would it make sense, how severe it would be, you know, all these just random different things. And it's I mean, a therapist probably or a psychologist maybe not agree at all, but it was fun for me and I enjoyed doing that kind of thing. So writing a little bit. Um I can see how directing would be fun. Just you know, similar to like managerial work that I do now, it's just a creative form of it, basically. Of your, you know, directing people of how to do their job, you're directing art, you're you know, creating a project, you're creating a world, whatever it may be. Uh, I love watching special effects makeup artists. I don't think I'd ever want to do it or sit in that chair for as long as these people have to sit in these chairs.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

Yeah, but it'd be amazing to see though, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 18:13

Yeah, but it'd be fun to be made out. Like if you could do all the makeup for eight hours and then film everything you needed in the next 24 and maintain the look so I don't have to go through that eight hours again, that'd be amazing. Uh just because it's I love fantasy in sci-fi, so portraying some kind of crazy, you know, whatever character would be really fun. Or stunt where there's a lot of stuff. I'm my husband and I are just really into watching movies, experiencing movies, reading fantasy, everything. So there's a lot of different aspects that I think are very fun and enjoyable. So they're not there's nothing huge that I'm like, I need to do this, this is my priority. It's just kind of like a fun hobby for me, honestly. I don't like taking the fun out of it. That's why I was so upset that last day.

SPEAKER_06 18:58

So I was like, I'm trying this for fun, and this is not fun.

SPEAKER_04 19:04

Well, we might have to let you look at our new horror scripts once they get get going. That's one of the uh next things we're thinking about dipping our toes into.

SPEAKER_07 19:14

Okay. I did do one more movie. I've just never seen it. I don't know if it even exists. All the footage is out there somewhere, and it's probably really nice. And it was some of the awesomest work that I've done. Like, it it was I was being chased around and fighting this big guy and smashing bottles on like it was fun physical work. That's the kind of stuff that I like. Like, I like doing my own stunt work. I almost broke my leg in the movie because I ran into this truck and jumped into it, and I have a video or a photo. I racked my shin against the not roll bar, the step up to the lifted trucks, that big old metal thing. So I had a bump literally about two or three inches raised off of my shin that was there for probably about a year, and I could feel it just because it. I mean, I can still feel where it was because there's a a problem with my shin. But I mean, I don't feel it, but so that that was a big old you know, scar from the film, which was fun. But I don't know what happened to the movie.

SPEAKER_03 20:11

So I remember you you sprained your ankle on the set pretty badly in the desert. Yeah, and you just you were just like, no problem, leave me alone.

SPEAKER_04 20:22

I'm fat. You were in that gym and you're playing with those those rings hanging. I saw you fall. You landed like backwards on your leg, and it was like, oh shit. And we had like another three hours. And so when you're in there fighting those ninjas at the beginning of Revenge of Zoe, you're in excruciating pain, and you never know it when you watch the footage. What are you gonna do? Tell Rachel we're shutting down. She's like, hell no, I didn't go through all this to I'm gonna shoot my scene.

SPEAKER_07 20:50

Yeah, I think injuring myself on set is just my trademark.

SPEAKER_03 20:55

Time honored tradition at this point, right?

SPEAKER_07 20:57

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

Hey, can somebody hit Rachel with a frying pan so we can get production going, please? Thank you.

SPEAKER_07 21:03

Yep. I don't even remember when we shot that, if how much more was left to be filmed. Because I think I remember you know, wrapping and re-wrapping my ankle underneath the boots a few times.

SPEAKER_03 21:15

You were we were only halfway through the shoot when you sprained your ankle. Yeah, for sure. You because that desert stuff was oh no, this this was one of the well, not reshoot, but additional photography.

SPEAKER_04 21:25

Oh, this is the oh, this is the uh this is the the sorry, I'm thinking of the desert scene where she was when we shot on the hottest day of the summer. We did an 11-hour shoot. We started in the uh hotel room, but the AC didn't work, if you remember that and also you never see anybody sweating or anything, and then we killed one of the hard drives in the trunk of the car that day, which was fun. And then when we yeah, exactly. When we finally got to that gym, and we still had you know a couple hours to go, and it was getting late in the evening and it was just uh oh, you fell, but uh sort of one of those things where Like, well, this is literally it the last day, so power through, and and you got it.

SPEAKER_07 22:06

It was because I was like, I don't remember, you know, being like in excruciating pain trying to act after because when I twisted my ankle in the desert, it was twisted, it wasn't bad, it was a little sore, whatever. Right. And the gym, it it snapped all the way back. That was a hell of a lot. So if I had had to do multiple scenes after that, that would have been rough.

SPEAKER_04 22:25

Yeah, we probably would have been like, uh no. But you know, we were just injured just enough. So try this at home, guys. Uh you know, sometimes you shoot something and it it never sees the light of day, isn't it? That's just sad. It doesn't matter what the budget is, too. I mean, like that Batgirl thing they spent. We try not to talk too much about other movies because we didn't make those movies, but as you know, they spent like a gazillion dollars on the thing, and then nobody ever sees it. Nobody's ever gonna see it. Yeah, well, maybe one day your other project will come to light.

SPEAKER_07 22:59

I'd like to see it. Like it, I don't know. It seemed like I had they gave us a trailer on it. Like, I was like, okay, you guys have like you know, you got a whole trailer for the actors, like you know, so it so it had a good impression, but that was two thousand five years ago, I think. Six, seven, it was a while ago. So maybe I'll have to look up the I'm sure Nathan remembers the guy's name. We'll have to look it up and see if we can find anything about it, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 23:28

Yeah, it's taken us three years to get this new one done, but we uh we never stop it would have to be a horrible, horrible, catastrophic we can't finish. It was like no movie, we this movie will get finished. Talking to a movie as if it's a real thing. Well, you know, you work on something for long enough, it starts to feel like it has a life of its own.

SPEAKER_03 23:49

Oh, yeah. What's it um what's it like to see yourself drawn as a superhero? Like that's a that's an interesting question, and one that not a lot of people can ask actors.

SPEAKER_07 23:59

It's very cool, and I I feel like all the I'm I rarely use social media, but once in a while see like they have the little filters now that turns you into an anime character and stuff. I'm like, I did that first, and they did it just for me. So screw your filter. I have proof. Like I have a real artist that did me. So it was very fun. It was very uh it was just exciting when they you guys finally showed it to me. I was like, Oh my god, that's me.

SPEAKER_03 24:26

So that was neat. It was it was fun to have a face to put to the whole thing, like it was before it was just sort of drawn, and then we found an actress. But then once we had when we did the poster, it was like that's that's gonna be Rachel. It's gonna be awesome.

SPEAKER_07 24:39

Yeah, that was really neat.

SPEAKER_04 24:41

And that giant poster, I think I think Christina has that now. It's weird how these props end up with like who has the room to put this, and we got oh, I'll take it. Okay, you take it. So at least preserved, and because I would hate to see something that large of a prop go to waste or just yeah. You know, to to bring up to talk about Jeff, as we usually do in almost every episode. When I was watching one of the new cuts of the movie, one of the things I really appreciate it the most is how he gets these large props. And we never had large props in our early movies, but when you have a gigantic ass prop like that frenzy poster, it just adds something else to the movie. It makes it seem that much more realistic, I think.

SPEAKER_07 25:25

Mm-hmm. Because it takes it takes effort and time and money to get those big old things. Like, no one has you can't go to Michael's or Joanne's whatever and get fabric or a sign to do that. Like you have to get it made by someone who makes that stuff for a living.

SPEAKER_03 25:41

Yeah, and of course, Jeff happens to have a printer that he's exclusively works with that does his printing for him.

SPEAKER_06 25:48

He's got a printing guy, he's got a sign guy, he's got a car guy, he's got a guy guy, he's the name guy as well.

SPEAKER_04 25:54

The printer is in the movie too. So sneak him in there. Yeah, he is the guy who gets a flyer crammed at him at the uh comic book store.

SPEAKER_05 26:07

That's cool.

SPEAKER_04 26:08

So let's see. Is there a dream role you would want to do as an actor? Or any type particular type of genre? I know you were saying like horror and fantasy is a favorite, but you wouldn't necessarily want to be in the makeup chair. I mean, I know it took a while to cover your tattoos, but that's not eight hours of you know prosthetics and stuff.

SPEAKER_07 26:27

Yeah. Honestly, because I'm so into sci-fi and fantasy, like horror, yes, but it'd be really fun to be like a an elf or a Vulcan or something, you know, so because that wouldn't require much makeup.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

Right.

SPEAKER_07 26:39

Um, because like a few of my favorite like yeah, like Spock and Arwin or Elron are like my two a few of my favorite characters, you know. So doing something like that, because I've always been fascinated with, you know, a longevity, long life, or you know, immortal, uh, yeah, like the vampires too. Being a vampire was always really fun to me. It's just so there's not very many movies or shows, whatever it is, that do it really well. The ones that have done it really well seem to be pretty iconic, and then there's just so many B films and crappy and just eh, or stereotypical, or no story, or no, you know, it just something's just not right with it. So that's a little bit harder, but those are the things that would just be really fun, like you know, fulfilling kind of a little fantasy thing to be something that I always wanted to be when I was like a preteen kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 27:30

I could see you in an action flick, like a you know, like assault type, like a salt type.

SPEAKER_07 27:36

Oh yeah, those are some of my favorite movies.

SPEAKER_03 27:38

Might just pull that off pretty well.

SPEAKER_07 27:40

Yeah, because I I like you're like, I mean, I'd probably injure myself multiple times if they let me do the actual ones.

SPEAKER_03 27:46

Yeah, knowing knowing you and your your pitch on for like the act the the physical stuff, I think you'd probably pull that off pretty well.

SPEAKER_07 27:51

Yeah, yeah, that's fun. I love like with how physical I am at my job right now, like it's just so fun. Like that's part of why I like my job, is because I'm lifting heavy shit all day. And so it gets whatever anxiety out because I'm don't have any time to think about that when I'm lifting 100 pounds of something. Um, so yeah, I I would enjoy doing something action-y like that.

SPEAKER_03 28:12

Yeah, I can see that. Do you have a um I we this is my question that I ask everybody that comes to the to the podcast here? So do you have uh I'm I'm really into like films based on music or not necessarily musicals? I like musicals, but um films that are have a music you know tilt all the way through them or about music or something like that. Do you have a particular film? And it could be a musical, but do you have a particular film that's kind of in the music genre or music bass that you go?

SPEAKER_07 28:42

Do you have a like a go-to or so you're talking about just like a really iconic soundtrack or like based on because I was like, I don't like um like my favorite is the commitments, which is about a which is about a band in Ireland that forms and and plays soul music.

SPEAKER_03 29:00

Um so like you know, so it's about music and it's it's but it's not a musical, right? Like it's not a song and dance.

SPEAKER_07 29:07

Yeah, yeah. I generally honestly I I hate musicals. Um may as well tell you it's like pulling teeth to get me to sit down for one.

SPEAKER_03 29:14

Found one.

SPEAKER_07 29:16

Yeah, so I mean I'll watch them because they generally are good. I just I don't know why, but honestly, I do know why it bugs me. My my two older sisters always wanted to watch uh something Disney or singing or musical or play or something, and I wanted to watch someone kill someone on screen, and they they always won because there was two of them. Right, yeah, so I wanted yeah, so I had to sit there and suffer through this musical, all being like, I didn't want to watch it. So I was like programming myself to hate musicals for the rest of my life, so that's why I don't like them now. Yes, they made me do that. Um but as far as the only thing I can think of as like a nostalgic film for me is that thing you do. Oh, that's that's pretty that's exactly. Yeah, I was like, I love that I hadn't seen it, and Nathan had not seen it either. I'm like, what? It's one of the best movies ever. Like, I don't know if it's that good because it's nostalgic, so I can't really I'm not objective. It's awesome to me, but it might be shit. Uh but we watched it, and so because then I'm always watching and seeing movies that I grew up watching with my family over and over. That's how I get introduced to certain actors, and then I would recognize those actors and want to watch those films, and so it kind of creates this whole spider web of experience and stuff. So I would point out all these actors, like, I don't know who that is. I'm like, that's the bass player from that thing you do. He's like, Who's that? And I'm like, Oh, it's a sin, you have to watch this movie now. And then Arwen's, you know, live Tyler. It's the first time I saw her, and then when she played Arwen, I was like in love. Yeah, it's a good cast.

SPEAKER_03 30:38

Yeah, Zans in that movie. Um, yeah, that's a that's I like that movie a lot. My uh my wife, I watched it with my wife, and and unbeknownst to me, she was basically just kind of gritting her teeth for the entire movie. She's like, I need this fucking move, and and she's just like and I and I I went out and of course bought the Blu-ray special edition. I'm like, oh look, it's got extra scenes, and she's like, You're watching that by yourself, dude. I'm not I'm not watching that thing again. And I I I love it. Like, I I think you know, written by Tom Hanks, one of his early films that he wrote, it's off of that um playtone.

SPEAKER_07 31:13

Um hit record, whatever yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

Yeah, yeah, and it's it's also their their um production studio, uh he and Rita Wilson's production studio. Oh, okay. I don't know that. And they they they turned around and made my big fat Greek wedding, uh, produced that. So um, you know, they uh they make they've made a few films that are kind of little gems, they aren't real huge hits, but yeah, that's another one of our family's favorites.

SPEAKER_07 31:37

So my big fat Greek wedding is that's on the list of probably top five favorites if we quote it all the time and love watching it.

SPEAKER_03 31:43

And yes, I I lived in New Jersey when it came out and it played. I've never seen a movie play that long. Like I would drive by this one theater going to school, and the entire year I was in school, my Big Fat Greek Wedding, my Big Fat Greek every on the marquee. I was like, this thing's been running for four months, five months. It was just it was it was a mega hit as far as that was go. So yeah, I was really surprised. But you know, other than like a Star Wars or something, I just never heard of anything. Most runs you get that long. Having I ran a movie theater, and most runs that you get that long are manufactured by the studio, it's contracted, right? So, like we ran the first avatar in our theater, and it we were contracted to run it for 14 weeks. So it was the longest run the theater ever had, but the most organic run the theater ever had of just a movie that people wanted to keep seeing and kept doing well was The Blind Side with uh Sandra Bullet ran it ran 11 weeks, which was a big surprise. I was like, Man, that that movie's got some what's like called legs.

SPEAKER_07 32:39

It was surprising though. I wouldn't expect it to be as amazing as it was.

SPEAKER_03 32:42

Like very, very decent movie, it was really, really good. Yep, yeah. It was it was also one of those movies you could take your family to and sit in the because it came out like the holidays. And I I'm convinced that families go to the movies in holiday because they're like, look, we're gonna go to the movies for two hours, we're gonna sit in the dark, and we don't have to listen to your uncle talk, right? Like, let's just let's go to the movies. It's one of those that, like, well, this one's offensive. This is a family movie, it's not offensive, you know, it's not gonna offend uncle or aunt so and so, and we can all kind of go to enjoy it.

SPEAKER_04 33:11

Empire Records fan, or isn't Liv Taylor in that one as well? Yeah, she's Liv Tyler's that's an early one for her, too.

SPEAKER_07 33:18

Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't remember at this point. I've seen so many movies. I might have seen it. I just can't remember like names. I had like I if I look up the poster of it and like the cast.

SPEAKER_03 33:31

Actually, that's got the that's got the kid who played um so that the kid in that thing you do that plays the bass player, yeah, it's credited. His name in the movie is TV player. He's so he's the bass player. He doesn't have a real name in the in the movie, so he Ethan Embry is his name, and he's in Empire Records. Oh, yeah, he's uh Vegas Vacation Rusty. Yes, yes, exactly. Yep.

SPEAKER_07 33:54

I don't think I've seen it.

SPEAKER_03 33:55

Oh early, that's that's early Renee Zellwigger, early Lake Tyler, early Ethan Embry. It's pretty good, it's got great soundtrack, too.

SPEAKER_06 34:01

I'll have to try it. Yeah, I'm sure it's streaming somewhere.

SPEAKER_03 34:04

Early Rory Cochran, probably too. Tubies got everything, including our movie in case you're listening and you'd like to go see it. Rachel and Wonderful in Revenge of Zoe, and even better in Love Song of William H. Shock coming out.

SPEAKER_04 34:15

Like we have Nick Levine Day in Love Song and uh and in Empire Records, they had Rex Manning Day, which is like the big rock star in that. So we were kind of semi-inspired by that a little bit.

SPEAKER_07 34:28

Gotcha. There you go. I'll have to try it out.

SPEAKER_04 34:31

Yeah, fine. You're gonna like that one, I think. If you like those others, yeah, it's right in that pocket. It might be one of these, oh, I saw this, or how did I miss this? type.

SPEAKER_03 34:41

Yeah, the pot the pottery scene is gonna just kill.

SPEAKER_07 34:45

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:46

You nailed that, and it was great. It it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_07 34:50

Good. That one was fun. I could I could tell by the way you guys were shooting at that as long, you know, it could be put together in a really cool way.

SPEAKER_04 34:57

Yeah, yeah, those those hands just yeah, there's a pottery sequence in Love Song of William H. Shaw that I think you all are going to get a kick out of. Yep. Okay. Uh so everybody has secondary career interests. And so outside of film, what's another creative outlet for you? Because as you earlier you were saying, people say, Well, you're a creative, what do you do? It's like, well, what else do you want to do?

SPEAKER_07 35:24

So for me, it's not really creative. It's just I enjoy just working on my health. That's the main other interest that I have. Of just it's more of a lifestyle, honestly, at this point, but there's always a never-ending with most big things, there's a never-ending wealth of knowledge that I can always be learning something new or finding something new about whatever aspect. But uh like I work at Sprout still, so that's a kind of a key point of being able to establish my healthy living lifestyle. And I started, well, I started in lots of departments, but prior to where I am now, I was in the assistant vitamin manager department. So I was helping people basically kind of being a doctor for them, which you you can't be legally, but you can try to help them, you know, guide them along the right course for learning their own health journey and establishing their own healthy lifestyle. Uh, and then just from there, as my interest was peaked on supplements and healthy living and herbal and Ayurvedic care and traditional Chinese medicine, and just there's just a huge world of it. So that's my passionative interest of just learning um about biohacking your body to get better and be better, just because I was so sick for so long, like a very long time, um, on desk door for a while of it. So being able to be fit and strong and healthy and not be on uh dozens of medications for all these random problems that the doctors said I had, which I probably still have but are under control, uh, is very empowering uh to be able to do by yourself. Um like I got myself off of all my medications without well, you're not supposed to do that, put a disclaimer to that. You should probably talk to a doctor if you're gonna remove yourself off of prescribed medications like the ones I was on, but it's a big uh actually not a medical expert in disease. Exactly, yeah. So it's not a real but it's a big point of pride that I was able to successfully you know wean myself off, type titrate myself off of these medications and replace them with natural substances. So that's that's what my main passion is. And then animals. It's like I love I love my puppies, I love just like I'm an introvert, I'm not an extroverted person. So I may like when I'm around people, I come off as extroverted because you know, if I'm having fun, I'm talkative, I'm you know, energetic. But after two, three hours, I start being like, oh my god, get me away from these people. I cannot stand them anymore. I need to be with my dog, like, go away, let me hide. Uh thus the smoking of being like, okay, no, I'm fine, I got a second win, I'm still energetic.

SPEAKER_03 38:07

No, I know I know what you mean though. It's I'm I'm kind of both. Like, I'm I'm pretty good in with people and and in crowds and in public, but I'm also very much like a okay, I've I've had my fill of this, and I would like to go like y'all are kind of energy vampires, and I'd like to go back and kind of recharge my battery and do my thing, and you know, I like I have all my little routines I like to do, and you know, I can take it. I know exactly what you mean by that.

SPEAKER_07 38:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:30

Um can we can we talk about the night shoot? Can we talk about the green screen night shoot? Because there were some wonderful things that happened that night, you know, and the the car and the the you smacking the crap out of out of uh Bradford to the point where you're like, I like I and I've said this in several shoes shows. You hit him so hard at one point, I swear that at least the pop made it sound like it was so hard that I was like, that dude's got lost to filling or something. He's gonna get to the dentist.

SPEAKER_07 38:57

See, and that I was trying to hold back. So that makes me want to be like, I've gotta be in an action movie at some point, so I can just smack the shit out of this actor and they're gonna you know be fine with it or know how to roll off or whatever. Uh just to it, it was fun. I mean, I felt bad because he was like, You're hitting really hard. I'm like, I'll try not to, like, I'm sorry. But it was it was very fun to hit someone.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

Well, I remember Jeff, at one point you had your little vape. Like you said, you're pretty quiet on set. You're not really a rambunctious, you know, you're you do your job and you're having a good time and you're interacting with people, but you're not you're not the type of person to be like, draw attention to me, you know, that type of thing. Um, you're not you're not a big boisterous person on set. Yeah, that's right. You're just kind of yeah in mind. Yeah, I pull a lot of focus. Um but but you were kind of off to the side with your vape, just kind of chilling in it. That that smell floats through the air, and I'm like, oh, that's nice to have that's a nice smell to have on set, you know. And and then and of course Jeff's there and he goes, he goes, It's it's someone smoking marijuana. And and Marty and I just looked at each other and we're just like, I'm not gonna tell him. Are you gonna tell him? No, let's not tell him. I still this day remember it. Just the just the sort of the tone was perfect. It was like uh the headmaster had caught someone doing something they shouldn't.

SPEAKER_04 40:22

That was great because that happened again when we were shooting in the hidden underground bunker scene with uh Zoe and the Dr. Von Fitzkrieg. At one point, uh Jeff once again, is someone smoking marijuana? But I remember that one. Oh, I don't know, I don't talk about it.

SPEAKER_07 40:40

Yeah, I remember hearing him being like, oh crap, this is his office. Like, I have to be careful. So I I think I like ran out and like exhaled on my way out the books.

SPEAKER_05 40:51

I was laughing and trying to hold it in. Like, yeah, that was amusing.

SPEAKER_03 40:56

If you're confused about underground bunker, what you need to understand is that our man Jeff, he's our artistic director, our music coordinator. We call him T Jeff Knocken, T Bone Knocken. Uh he's he's like a wizard. He's he's he's really talented in bringing together different things. He's just offers a wealth of things to the production and everything. But he has in his office this room.

SPEAKER_04 41:21

Well, he had, it's another local it's gone.

SPEAKER_03 41:25

Yeah, but he had this room, and when you open the door, it looks like a 50s fallout shelter, but it's also got like a little bit of mad scientist equipment on it, and it's and he's like, Oh, yeah, I've always wanted one of those rooms. Just like non-shill, like we were there, and I'm like, What is this room? What the heck? And he goes, Oh, yeah, I've always wanted one of those. I you know, I made one. It's like, what the f are you?

SPEAKER_07 41:46

I didn't know he had just lying around. Like, I thought he created that for the film.

SPEAKER_03 41:51

Like, oh no, no, that's just he just happened to, and we were like, Well, obviously, we're using that, so that's that's happening because that's when as a as a you know, when you're an indie filmmaker and you see something that wonderful, you're like, hmm, how do I put it in a movie?

SPEAKER_07 42:03

Yeah, but like, we'll use this somehow, we'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_03 42:07

Yep. Um, you also have a history of threatening people with knives on our set.

SPEAKER_07 42:15

I was I enjoyed using them, yes.

SPEAKER_03 42:18

On camera, on camera.

SPEAKER_07 42:19

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 42:20

Yeah. So, you know, it was because you you do it, you you put a knife to you put a knife to Billy's throat, you put an you put a uh you threaten to stab Dr. Von Blitzkrieg. Um you slice a ninja up. Literally, yeah. We get blessed on that one.

SPEAKER_07 42:37

I have that's that's a real out. It's a real thing. I have I have close to probably 20 different knives, daggers. I mean, you can see my husband's swords.

SPEAKER_03 42:45

You've got four swords behind you, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 42:47

Well, those those are my husband's. My sword, my actual sword is um ice from Game of Thrones. So the big ass long sword. Uh so I've got I have the biggest sword in the house. I also have the smallest, so I have lots. I love we love weapons over here.

SPEAKER_03 43:05

So do you have a favorite moment um from either shoot that you really think when you think about working with us or working on those those films? Do you have like a like where you like a favorite memory that you go back to? Oh, that was the best.

SPEAKER_07 43:20

I don't have since again, since my memory's not amazing, it's more of just like feelings of oh, that like I remember my memory's weird being like I think Cliff, you noticed I wasn't telling anybody, I think, that I was smoking on set, and I think you smelled it and like just kind of like nodded or something. I was like, You're fine, just fine, you know, like you understood that I was trying to be discreet and trying not to, you know, like I kept stepping outside, and then you came out, you're like, What do you do?

SPEAKER_03 43:47

Oh well, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 43:50

So things like that. I mean, the I remember the hotel shoot was fun. Um I can't, I mean, I can't even tell you specifics, but I remember enjoying. Myself. Um, just being with you all on set was just a fun time. Like it was I felt relaxed the whole time. You know, it wasn't any which, you know, I wasn't wearing very much clothes, so it was a feat for you guys to be like, it's okay. You're not wearing a shirt, but we're all relaxed, we're all friends.

SPEAKER_03 44:17

No. I my one of my favorite pictures from the hotel shoot is uh Bradford's on the bed, and you're just kind of you're just you're both just laying there waiting for us to set up. Yeah, and you're just and you know it's not like you're you're not snuggling, it's nothing untowards, it's just these, it's like two people who are just really comfortable with each other and are kind of you know vibing on a set. They're just like, dude, let's okay, whenever they're ready, just let us know.

SPEAKER_04 44:41

Well, the best picture of that is where Ira joins them, where Paul's on the bed, all three of them, and they're like, That's right. That's right. Forgot about that. And that was all that crazy, magical two days where we shot in that car all night, and then a few hours later we went back to the desert, and then we went back to went, then went to the hotel room. Whew, that was that was a nutty one.

SPEAKER_07 45:06

It was fun though, because it was so it was like total immersion into into the world, into the role. So you didn't have time to do anything else, you didn't really have to get back into character, you were just in character, you were just ready and in that role. And again, it was I mean, uh, if there was any differences of you know, cast members or whatever, it wouldn't have felt the same or been the same because he and I were so comfortable with each other, like we're you know, we had no weirdness, it was just we were relaxed, we had similar interests. So if we wanted to talk, we could, but we were both kind of quiet. So if we wanted to just lay there, it was comfortable doing that too, and not saying a word. So it was just comfortable. The whole like energy vampire thing happens a lot on a lot of sets. I'm just like, you guys are so dramatic, you're so passionate, like you are zapping the life out of me right now. Like, I have to leave, like, figure it out and call me back. But it was easy to just be there and to just wait and be like, all right, they'll figure it out. I guess we're just gonna wait for a while.

SPEAKER_03 46:06

So yeah, we don't do we don't do much drama on our sets, and if we do, it's usually just me and Marty harping at each other, you know. And there's that, you know, there's that one every shoot you get a meltdown, somebody cries, and then we move on with our day. Not really tears, not really tears, she guys.

SPEAKER_04 46:19

I was thinking, who was crying? I'm sure somebody was at some point. Probably a lot of crying on that last set.

SPEAKER_07 46:28

I was like, I was ready to on that last day. I think I might have. I'm not sure. I think I yeah, I think I had to fix my makeup. I think I was angry to the point of tears.

SPEAKER_03 46:36

We were not. I I remember I remember being so excited just because I'm like, yeah, Rachel's here. We're gonna shoot this scene, it's gonna be great. And then we love the you know, because we got in, you know, we had the big mural on the side that we were gonna shoot on. I'm like, I can't wait for you. I'll walk over the car and you're just like what happened.

SPEAKER_07 46:56

Yep. Oh, because I had a migraine too. That didn't help, like, because of all the heat and the walking, like it was I just I had a horrible headache. So I was uh if I hadn't had a headache and my back didn't hurt like from again, it's just when you're in physical pain and tired, you're you're not the most pleasant, or I'm not the most pleasant person.

SPEAKER_04 47:14

No, yeah, no, and yet acting, you would have no idea when when you watch the footage that anybody was in any sort of different mood, as you shouldn't.

SPEAKER_07 47:23

Yeah, that was the most acting I probably did in any of the any of the scenes ever. Just because I'm like, I'm fine, I'm happy, I'm chill, I'm gonna kill someone.

SPEAKER_04 47:32

But it's funny with the the bloopers of that where we're behind the liquor store and we had to keep doing the scene over and over again because the helicopters oh my god Bradford was losing his shit. It's some really funny movie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 47:49

Well, because then I I mean, I I know I kind of set everyone else on edge too, because I've when I'm emotional, everyone knows it just kind of oozes out of me. So then every you know, I know Cliff, you're just like, hurry up! Like she's trying to leave.

SPEAKER_04 48:01

It was that last night too, and you know, we had to stop the production because of the March 2020 craziness, and it was everybody was a little on edge, and then what we got.

SPEAKER_03 48:12

Do you guys remember somebody behind us? They had their bird outside. Remember that? Like a freaking bird, and it would just scream every now. I was like, seriously, we're you know, uh that was a that was a struggle night. Like it we it was kind of cursed, and it kind of like it worked, it all worked.

SPEAKER_04 48:33

We figured it out, and um the following June, we the following June, we got back together behind that liquor store and shot Nate's parts. Oh, yeah, and it matches up because we had footage to look at while we were there to make sure the eyelines look and so it looks like all four of you are together. Secrets, yeah, but yeah.

SPEAKER_07 48:58

Well at least it was just him because that yeah, I remember be also being mad that be like, we we're missing who no, we're not gonna redo this. Like this, and you're like, No, no, we're gonna do it separate, it's fine, don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_03 49:08

Right, yeah. I shot, I shot um, well, we shot um basically we shot many masters, basically. We shot multiple masters instead of one big one, we shot, you know, so it's and then we tied it together with over-the-shoulders, uh, over-the-shoulder angles. And so like you see you see Eric and you know, you and Bradford together, you see Eric and Nate together, you you know, but you don't ever see all four of you all together, but it it still sells, like you can it's a short scene, you can't tell.

SPEAKER_07 49:39

Well, because if you have yeah, since Eric is there, he's the combining factor. It tricks the mind into being like, oh, this is the focal point. I can't see these sides at the same time, but they're all there. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 49:49

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 49:50

Pretty pretty proud of us for pulling that off, considering we had to shoot it so much. Yeah, I guess it turns out that's not that unusual of a problem for movies to have to come back a couple months later and do somebody else's coverage. At the time, we were like, oh, geez, I guess, but then now it's like, oh I watch it, how we work, I don't even think of it anymore. The illusion tricks me sometimes, and it's like, oh, well, if I'm forgetting, well, that's good because that means whoever's watching it's not gonna be like he wasn't there.

SPEAKER_07 50:19

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 50:20

It's like if they're watching that closely, well, good, you know, we'll hire continuity on the next film. Uh, I think we have that one question that you like to ask everybody.

SPEAKER_03 50:33

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanks for reminding me. Wow. So um, I always I always like to know about you like especially with actors, like your work with directors. So, like, is there a specific piece of feedback that a director's given you that's that you've you know, like oh, that was really good feedback? Uh do you like to get feedback from a director? Like, do you or do you you want as much as you can get? Tell me, tell me about that.

SPEAKER_07 50:56

Again, with my memory, I don't know if I really remember any direct like a conversation or anything like that. Uh, just thinking about what how I work with directors and like the whole muse thing of me not wanting to create, but I enjoy bringing other people's creations to life. Um, so I just gauge what I'm doing based off of like on the film, I've year of expressions. So see if you guys were like entrapped by what I was doing, then I could tell something was going right because I was portraying what you had in your mind. So it was it was transfixing you. But if you're just like, you know, looking at it quit, whatever it may be, I knew something was wrong, and so it needed to be adjusted. So I don't remember any conversations, I just remember certain scenes, and I can't even unfortunately can't even tell you which scenes, but you would just get so excited. I'm like, okay, I did it. Like I brought her to life, like she's here now, you know. Um, so just seeing that excitement of getting it happened a few times in other films as well, of just seeing this light go off of being like, that's what I had in my mind, it happened, like is just exciting for me. So I mean, I enjoy getting feedback, yeah, because I don't, it's not something that like I have huge pride in or anything. And it's just a it's a hobby for me. So if I can change it or evolve or adapt, whatever it may be, I want to be able to help to bring that person's creative idea to life. It's not my idea. I'm just there to help them create theirs. So yeah, any kind of feedback is fine. Like I enjoy it.

SPEAKER_03 52:27

Yeah, I remember getting excited. I think it was when we were shooting the pottery stuff, and you were you were having to hold up the script and yeah, oh, it may have been some of the flashback stuff during the pottery, but you were uh holding up the script and and and really giving just some you know the the back and forth because you don't have any lines, so it's like so Billy's just talking to you, and you're having to make faces clear, react to them in a mode, and it was just like nailed it, nailed it, nailed it. I I can remember saying cut and just being like I remember you turning around and looking at me, like, are you seeing this?

SPEAKER_04 53:01

Are you seeing what he's getting? And I'm like, it's good, it's good because I'm just like trying to be you know line producer and making sure everything, yeah, we're going, it's great, it's great, you know.

SPEAKER_03 53:09

Yeah, I'm like awesome, yeah, yeah. And it's we're shooting in 4K and everything's beautiful, you know. Inside I'm freaking out, but outside I'm like, everyone, stay calm.

SPEAKER_07 53:22

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:23

And you watch that scene back, uh, both of the scenes involving the pottery wheel, and you know, the first one's great because it's the little play on the other classic film, and the second one's great because it's one of the most emotional scenes in the movie with all the what if potential flashbacks of of of their of their kid and all the store going out of business and stuff. And and then Jeff goes and finds this music piece that wants to bring the audience to tears during it, and it's like finding this stuff, Jeff. It's pretty hard. It's that icing on the cake.

SPEAKER_07 53:54

So yeah, yeah, yeah. That music really helps bring everything together.

SPEAKER_03 53:58

Oh, it's like game changer. That that last that last soundtrack was really uh drove that movie. It was really great.

SPEAKER_04 54:07

We're hoping to put an actual soundtrack out for this one since we're planning it while we're licensing the tunes, while it was last time we just licensed the tunes and it was like, oh, it's a bit of a struggle to go back and get the soundtrack, but we're hoping, you know, like a vinyl release because people like that stuff.

SPEAKER_07 54:23

So yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_02 54:28

I think I've got all my questions covered. Marty, have you got anything else you want to talk about over here?

SPEAKER_04 54:35

All of our main ones that I can think of.

SPEAKER_03 54:37

Yeah. Do you have anything you want to plug, Rachel? Anything you want to anything you're working on or anything you want to talk about right here or promote or no, not really.

SPEAKER_07 54:45

It's like we haven't really done anything having to do with film in a while. So we've just kind of been doing other like Nathan just got hired at the sheriff department, so he's gonna be doing CO work and then deputy work. Um, and then I'm working again. I enjoy working my job at Sprout, so I'm going through a promotion in the next week as well. So I'll be transitioning to a different department. Congratulations. Um but yeah, so nothing big, we're just living life.

SPEAKER_03 55:13

Rachel wants you to take your vitamins and eat right.

SPEAKER_07 55:15

Do it.

SPEAKER_04 55:17

Yeah, if you're not healthy, you can't be on a film set for 12 hours at a day.

SPEAKER_01 55:22

That's very true.

SPEAKER_03 55:24

True. Yeah, walking around with your sprained ankle. Well, Rachel, we thanks so much for showing up. We appreciate it. It's so good to see you. Yes, um, yeah, thanks so much for being the Billy Muse and and putting on the superhero outfit and tights for us. We just we really appreciate it. We there's we've had long conversations about how much we appreciate the fact that you would be willing to do that for us to put it on again. She's gonna put this thing on again and show up and stand here, and it's it's fantastic. So we really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_07 55:56

Yeah, my pleasure. I enjoy it.

SPEAKER_03 55:59

All right, well, that'll take us out.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

All right.

SPEAKER_03 56:03

All right, bye. Bye, guys. Thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_00 56:08

Bye.