Making Pondo with Olivia Blake

 In this episode we talk to Olivia Blake. Olivia played the character Katy Rose in two of our films, "Revenge of Zoe" and "The Love Song of William H. Shaw."

Love Song Trailer

TemporaryTattoos.com

TusCon Link

28 Dresses Trailer

Die Die Delta Pie Trailer

Top Chef Link

Guy’s Grocery Games Link

Walk the Line Trailer

The Rocky Horror Picture Show Trailer

Hell on Wheels Trailer

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to Making Pondo and Talking Pondo. Talking Pondo is a podcast where we pick out two movies each week and talk about them in detail. Making Pondo is a podcast where we talk to people we've made films with and we discuss all their experiences on set. Today on Making Pondo, we interview Olivia Blake, who has acted in two of our feature films. And we're back. Alright. Who do we have with us this time, Marty? Oh, uh, now we have Miss Valdosta herself. It's it's Olivia Blake.

SPEAKER_03 0:39

Hi.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

At long last.

SPEAKER_03 0:43

That's not not a very big title, Miss Valdosta herself. Very small town.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

Yeah, my mom and my sister might argue over the title as they happen to live there as well. Which is oh nice. Yes, it's a small world.

SPEAKER_03 0:59

Well, it's good to be here. It's good to see you guys. Yeah, it's good to see you guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:03

Like we said, like we talked earlier, it's just been it's been too long. Yeah, also one of the reasons why we've done this podcast. It's a kind of a cheat to get to talk to all of our peeps again.

SPEAKER_03 1:13

Reconnect with all of our friends.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

Exactly. An excuse to hang out.

SPEAKER_03 1:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

So uh Olivia has worked with us on two of our films, although, and I like to say this a lot, it certainly does feel like it was more than two at this point. And that last movie felt like four movies, the way that it was split up and shot.

SPEAKER_03 1:36

With COVID and pausing production, I get it.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

Mm-hmm. You had to jump through all sorts of uh weird hoops for the last movie due to COVID.

SPEAKER_03 1:48

Yes. Um, so it was actually only the getting there. Um, it was early March of 2020 when the airline started to cancel flights because COVID just it was just starting. So um there was a little bit of a worry about um whether I was gonna make it out there to Tucson in time for filming. So um we were able to find a flight last minute to get me out there a couple days early. And um I don't I I didn't have any issues getting home either after filming um as scheduled, but still that was a little stressful just trying to make sure that I I could get out there um to do that role.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

I remember being on set and and you know Marty and I are because you you were you were scheduled to fly out after we had started shooting.

SPEAKER_03 2:40

Just after.

SPEAKER_02 2:41

Just after, right? And so I think I think I I think at one point Marty and I were talking about it and talking about the cancellations of flights, and I was just like, man, we gotta move for flight and get her here as soon as possible. Yeah, like you know, we've we can't be stranded with an actress somewhere far off and in the middle of this shoot and she because she's so key to what the the film any other any other time it would not have been an issue, but COVID really did pose uh a bit of a hurdle there.

SPEAKER_03 3:07

But we got through it.

SPEAKER_02 3:08

Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, I got you your own little Airbnb and carted you back and forth. It was great.

SPEAKER_03 3:15

Yeah. Um I'm I'm really lucky that uh Airbnbs were still up and running as well. Um because I I I think hotels were also having a problem. Oh god, yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:27

Yeah, big time. Well, the the two films blur together, but I'm having that memory of we we picked you up at the airport and then we drove you to the Airbnb, right?

SPEAKER_03 3:37

Yes, because um I lived in Tucson for the first film.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

That's right. That's right. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 3:42

Um, and then in 2020 is when we got to Valdasta. I had only been here about two months in Valdasta before um I had to go back to Tucson for filming of uh the love song William Shaw. So uh, but yeah, you guys did pick me up from the airport, got me the Airbnb. And it was actually a really nice Airbnb um for being just a very small guest house behind another house in a backyard.

SPEAKER_02 4:07

Yeah, it could be work, it could go either way, right?

SPEAKER_03 4:10

It was nice.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

So, how did you find us initially and start working with us?

SPEAKER_03 4:20

Um, well, I had been in Tucson for maybe about a year, uh, maybe less, and I was looking through casting calls online um where I could, and I found one for a local independent feature film, which turned out to be The Revenge of Zoe. And um I remember being there, and I think only one person was actually there in the audition, and one or two other people were um doing a Zoom call. Um, I think Cliff, you might not have been there. I think you were over the Zoom call.

SPEAKER_02 4:53

Yeah, I was over the Zoom call for sure.

SPEAKER_03 4:55

Um and it's it's really funny because I actually didn't audition for the role of Katie. Um I went in because I thought I was concerned that maybe I wouldn't fit the role of a tattoo parlor owner. I didn't, I don't have tattoos or piercings. Um so I auditioned for the role of Jen and Mona initially, but I guess all of you somewhere got together with candles and everyone spoke what they were thinking at the same time and said, This is Katie. And uh that's that's how I became uh Katie in the Revenge of Zoe series. Um and I just I fully embraced her character. To date, she is probably my most favorite character that I've had.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

Fantastic. Like, because you were all talented, all of you could have played any of those roles, I think. So it was like who's gonna which one's the best?

SPEAKER_01 5:45

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 5:46

Which one goes where? That it was, I don't know, it was fantastic. It was like um just like having this bounty of you know awesomeness to be able to cast was fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

Yeah, it was I I it and that's I think that's the first time I did not get the role, but I got another really good role. So uh, but yeah, I like I said, Katie, Katie was by far my favorite, and um it was just and I I mean I've made friends with you guys and as well as Eric Schumacher. We've done some other work together, and um, I am really happy I found you.

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Yeah, same here. You were fantastic. I mean, you were perfect for Katie. Marty said, I think in a in a different interview, it's so funny that we hired the girl that we hired to play Frenzy is the one that had all the tattoos, and then we hired you, who has no tattoos, to play the tattoo artist with all the tattoos. So here we are applying tattoos to you for scenes, and then covering hers up for other scenes.

SPEAKER_03 6:43

Paying someone for custom tattoos.

SPEAKER_02 6:45

Yes, yes, and then the fun part which I still have. That's great. The fun part was remembering, trying to remember where they all went. Oh, like we did the second shoot. It was like, which one goes? Do we have pictures? Do we have references for this? Yes, yes, we do.

SPEAKER_03 7:01

Well, it was easy with the the sleeves because I didn't show my arms in the first film, right? So that was much easier. It was just like any on my chest or maybe on my neck or um anything like that that would show.

SPEAKER_02 7:13

Yeah, that one like kind of behind your ear on your neck, sort of wherever that one is. Pretty constant. Yeah. But it's weird the ones on your wrists would show up in weird moments, like the every now and then you'd see the 13 on your wrist or whatever. And it was like, kind of remember that.

SPEAKER_03 7:28

Yeah. Um, I think it was um, I think it was Eric initially. He was like, all right, well, we have to remember where these tattoos are for tomorrow or for the next day. And I'm like, okay, that's fine. Well, turns out that was a great idea to have those photos from uh pre-production or production of Revenge of Zoe because of Love Song.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

Yeah. Yeah. And then in Love Song, unlike uh Revenge of Zoe, every tattoo is visible in the movie at least at some point or another. Sometimes in uh in Zoe, I think there was one that was on your back that there and it was a lion. Yeah, but in this one, I think it actually shows up in at least one shot.

SPEAKER_02 8:12

Yeah, it was like a weed smoking lion or something like that. Yes, it was.

SPEAKER_03 8:16

It was a very lion from what looks like the 70s.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

Yeah, we probably could have done a little bit better with the whole motif of your tattoo set, but um you got you got it.

SPEAKER_03 8:30

I think I think the sleeves came out really well.

SPEAKER_02 8:32

I did too. They looked pretty good. A little shiny at times, but for the most part, they looked really, really good.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

And then we were just fresh. We had that regular prop issues like one does on a set with uh with the sleeve tattoos, right? Then we only have one set that showed up in the mail, and so you couldn't wash that part of your arm for a day or so. And we were worried that it was gonna start cracking, but it never did. It looked it did great, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:00

It did absolutely great. Um, and I still have three or four sets that just never got used. So um I I just keep them as well as my script with all of my notes. Oh, that's fantastic from William uh Love Song William Shaw. Yeah, I have my original script with all of my notes and all of my wardrobe and um put in which day is which. I still have all of that.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

I have the uh video recording of the read-through for for Revengers though, which I watch every now and then just to kind of reminisce. And it's you doing before you when you were trying different things and so on. Oh yes, that New York accent. Oh, yeah. Different things and so it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun because it's it's where am I gonna go with that accent, Claire? No.

SPEAKER_03 9:51

That was a hard note.

SPEAKER_02 9:54

That would have been a different movie. Mm-hmm. You didn't need it. I mean, you didn't need it. You got you you uh you had toughness that exuded from from your character.

SPEAKER_03 10:05

You didn't scene number one of ripping Eric off of um Nate. Yeah, holding his hand behind his holding his hand behind his back. He said that actually hurt, and I was trying really hard not to hurt.

SPEAKER_02 10:21

We'll put a plug-in, by the way, for those tattoos in our in our show notes if anybody's interested in the tattoo company. They they did a great job. It cut I think it cut us Eric Eric cut us a deal on that too, or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

So you can complete your Katie cosplay with authentic tattoos. That's right.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

Yes. I will just dress as Katie um at the at the film screening.

SPEAKER_02 10:44

You still have those shirts that you had? I do.

SPEAKER_03 10:47

I do. I've got the kitty cat shirt. I've got the show me your tats.

SPEAKER_02 10:51

Show me your tats.

SPEAKER_03 10:52

Katie the tat lady. I still got them. I don't I don't wear them out or anything, but I've still got them.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

Yeah, the uh the show me your tats one is prominently featured, especially during the pottery sequence. You can you can really see that one really well. Yeah, which came out so good, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

Oh did it? Yeah, that was a good scene. I can't wait for you to see it. It's really good. It's it's uh yeah, I don't know. I'm really happy with with I think Marty and I both. It's it's just another step up from revenge. So all the acting stepped up, or it looks step, you know, the look of it stepped up. It's just it's really really good.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

Yeah, I showed a seven-minute clip of it at Tuscon last week, which I I had to show it at 10 p.m., which is now the new 1 a.m. So like two people were there. At least it looked like I feel that. So yeah, right. So at least I got this like, oh, this is like a test screening for me. Oh, that looks great, sounds great, cool, that's all I needed, you know. You get to see what it looks like on the big screen for you.

SPEAKER_03 12:02

Exactly. Without the uh anxiety of other too many other people watching, right?

SPEAKER_00 12:07

But yeah, with the since we finally shot in 4K with the last movie, and then we did the color timing, it just it just pops. Every little detail just leaps off the screen, and yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:18

I'm excited to see it.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

It looks really good. It looks good, I'm super happy. After all this time, finally, just a few more. I know it seems like we just fall off the map sometimes, but we're always cranking away out here.

SPEAKER_03 12:32

Same here.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

So what would be a dream role if you had your choice? What would you like to play more than anything?

SPEAKER_03 12:43

Oh, I mean, other than any role across from Henry Cavill. Um, I would say have a few. Um, so I love action films, and um, I've always wanted to be in the MCU uh MCU universe as a main character. Um, watching the original Avengers films, I always wanted to be an Avenger, um, but I knew that probably wasn't going to happen. But um that's a dream role. Um and actually, this is really this question's really fresh in my mind, or the series is. Um, I watched it when I was younger and I thought she was super, super cool. Um, and I started re-watching the series, but I love Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Love it. Um, and I really liked her. Um, I like her even more now, um, just you know, with the acting and the action. And um, I guess, you know, it I was seven or ten or something like that when it was actually on television. So I guess I didn't understand acting or the shows as much as I do now. Um now the other one is I don't really sit down regularly and watch these films, but I think I'd really like to be in a rom-com. Uh something like 28 Dresses, um, something like that. Uh, because I've actually never been in a legitimate rom-com, um, like two main characters, and you have the whole story arc like that. Um all that stuff. Be cute.

SPEAKER_02 14:11

Um yeah, the meet, cute, and all that, where they the cute little, the cute little meeting where they meet, you know, they're gonna fall in love.

SPEAKER_03 14:17

I know. Um, and I mean I like comedy. Um, but I I I think I think that doing a a rom-com would be ex it'd be more of an expansion for my acting skills and experience because I've actually never done, like I said, a legitimate rom-com.

SPEAKER_02 14:35

I feel like Marty and I have kind of that's what the last three movies kind of were were rom coms, not not full-blown ones like, you know, 10 how to lose your guy in ten days or whatever. Yeah. Wedding planner. But I mean, they are centered around a guy meeting a girl, you know, that type of thing. The the first one, especially, um, you know, Ravigia Zoe was a little bit different, and we never really explore how Billy and Katie get together. It's just this weird sort of like, oh, suddenly they're dating. Yes. Um, but Marty and I have this whole backstory about how that kind of I think kind of happens. We do due to the fact that we've written different versions of the script and different things that happen. So to us it was like, oh, it makes complete sense.

SPEAKER_03 15:14

So the end of Revenge of Zoe, and and this is my this is what I'm thinking it is at the end of Revenge of Zoe, um, Billy gets a tattoo and he hands Katie an envelope, and then he says, So you wanna and that's how that goes.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Yeah. And so there's a scene that we cut where early on where you and Billy are drinking, right? Like it he's he's had had a fight with the boys and he's gone back over to the tattoo parlor, right? And and he's just you and he are just pounding shots at talking, kind of that type of thing. And it's there's sort of a like a moment there that sort of passes, and then later on we do the tattoo thing. And I think it I think if we'd included that, it would have made a little bit more like a I don't know, a little more foreshadowing on that or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Yeah, that was gonna be after Billy and Nate show up, and she's like, But you be quiet. I'm trying to give this guy this tattoo over here. I want to be a butterfly. So there was gonna and he tarts start, he takes out his alcohol and starts doing shots. But yeah, that's right. There was a scene later where you cut back and they're both in there doing shots before he wants to talk.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

Because Billy can't stop talking.

SPEAKER_02 16:22

Would you do a horror movie? I'm curious.

SPEAKER_03 16:25

I've done horror movies. Really? My first film was a horror film. Um, it is called Die Die Delta Pie. Um, I did it. Yes, it was a 1980s college or like 1980s college slasher film. Um, and I actually played the I I you could call her the main character Marissa. Um, you could call her the main character, but I'm really only in the first scene or two. Um, and then there's a horrible accident and I get burned, and it's 25 or 30 years later, and that um sorority is opened up again at the at the college, and um I come back with a vengeance, as does my mother. So uh, but I'm still alive. Everyone thought I died, but I was still alive. So that was that that's a horror film that I've done.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

I I love the title.

SPEAKER_03 17:26

So uh but um I think uh no, I don't think she was. There was one actress. No, I'm I'm scrambling my brain, never mind. Two completely different cities, states. So your uh but that one that one was done in Tampa.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

Nice. So your answer there was the first uh crossover answer we've had. Nate also would like to be in the MCU.

SPEAKER_03 17:55

Really? Yeah, it's I mean, it's so well written, and you know, at first it was action, and then um they really got it down with the comedic timing. And you get the action, you get the comedic timing, and then you have the friendships and relationships and things like that. So it's it's it's so intricate. It's it's insane. The the writers, how they have all of the shows from Agents of Shield to all of the Avengers films, plus all of the standalone films, plus these new um Disney Plus series. It's unreal.

SPEAKER_02 18:37

Yeah, they're doing the same thing with Star Wars, where they've just they've gone, like Disney's just gone and just completely expanded that universe.

SPEAKER_03 18:43

Which is also very fun to watch.

SPEAKER_02 18:44

Yeah, also kept it. Yeah, yeah. And they've and you know they've broken some ground on how they're doing things too. It's pretty pretty impressive.

SPEAKER_03 18:51

Anyway, you know, I'll add to that answer. I think a Star Wars film would be fun to be in. I actually tried to audition for the role of Ray. Really? Yes, it was one of those I I mean, best way to put it is one of those open cattle calls. Uh-I mean, casting calls. Uh, but it was pretty clear or apparent that they didn't say it, but it was pretty apparent that what the role was for. Gotcha. And somebody was like, you know, you're not really the look we're going for. And then I go see the new Star Wars film, and I'm just like, how the hell am I not looking a lot like her? Yeah, that's crazy talk.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

I know. Wow. I was just thinking that when you said you try it out for the park. I was like, oh, that's crazy because she looks a lot like that.

SPEAKER_03 19:38

I go, I go see it. We're we're at the movie theater um uh park place. We were at opening night at the park place mall in Tucson, and um I'm looking and I'm like, no way.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

So yes.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

Yeah, I I mean I we have a hard enough time just making a a three-movie series that all interconnects. I can only imagine 40 plus entries in something and then it all makes sense together. Yeah. Wow. Without screwing up the canon and all that stuff. So everybody has secondary interests. And here on the Making Pondo podcast, we just automatically assume that your primary interest is filmmaking. But what would the secondary thing be? You know, like some people would be a musician, or some people would go into, you know, like be a chef or uh architecture. Who knows? You know, there's so many different things.

SPEAKER_03 20:39

What what what are your interests other than so this one's super easy, and you actually said it, um, I love to cook. Oh um, I think you, I mean, I love grocery shopping, I like making food that tastes good, I like making it look really good. I love all of it except the cleanup afterward. Um, and usually that's all on me. So um, and I think both of you have experienced that on both the set of Revenge of Zoe and Love Song Um I Cooked for y'all.

SPEAKER_02 21:10

I had your enchiladas the first time.

SPEAKER_03 21:12

You had my enchiladas, and then I had tacos, and then you had tacos. Um, and um Marty, you are vegetarian, so you had a pasta dish.

SPEAKER_00 21:23

Yes. As I was fairly awake that night, I was remember eating that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:29

Do you remember it?

SPEAKER_02 21:31

So I think everybody was falling asleep. Oh, that was that night was rough. Another reason that we love Olivia is she fed us. Um that was that night was rough. You would you would let us come to your house to shoot in your in your spare bedroom, and we were running behind, and so it was we were late getting there, and it took forever to shoot.

SPEAKER_03 21:53

Yeah, um, but it was it was a really good bedroom for um for Nate's carrot. Because I it was so plain and bare, and you didn't have to move anything. You just put whatever you wanted in there to make it look like his bedroom.

SPEAKER_02 22:09

No, it worked perfect.

SPEAKER_03 22:10

It worked perfect. Yeah, it was great. But um to the cooking, like the the food that I made, that I made you, they were very simple dishes from what I do now. Um, but I I do think it's very fun to get creative um with food. And you know, um actually uh I watch cooking channel and food network a lot.

SPEAKER_02 22:32

I wish so so I in my previous life I was a professional uh cook for a while. In my previous life, I worked several grill, you know, like sh type comp you know, kitchens and all that stuff. So I'm fascinated with like top chef and and uh any kind of cooking show or anything like that.

SPEAKER_03 22:49

So um I I do have a funny story. My husband was on the phone with me, and we watch the cooking shows all the time. I mean, we are into it. And he was on the phone with me at a doctor's office in a waiting room or something, and he just pauses and he goes, Oh, the cooking channel, what show is on? And I'm like, Oh my gosh, we've come to this. That's that's who we are now.

SPEAKER_02 23:14

Do you have a favorite cooking show that you watch? Like is it your favorite? You watch like competitions or just the cooking, like you have certainly the competitions.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

I I only watch like the actual like Pioneer Woman or Rachel Ray or things like that when my mom comes to visit, or I'm at my mom's house. I like the competitions. Um I think almost anything with Guy Firi. Um, and there's a new one. Um I can't remember what it's called, but there's a new one where these home chefs are um going to audition for something at the food network or the cooking channel. And um it turns out they get there, and it turns out it's not an audition. It's actually a cooking competition with top chefs. The very first one was somebody who had to go up against Alice Corner Shelley.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

Whoa!

SPEAKER_03 24:09

Hmm. Well, the the caveat is it's in New York, but the caveat is um they have the host, he goes out to New York and gets six random people off the streets. Like, hey, we're doing a cooking competition. Would you like to come try some food? Say which one you like better? And they're like, Yeah, sure, or no, I don't have time, just blow them off. But they get them there and these six people taste these dishes uh without knowing who is who. They're just like, oh, cooking competition, which one's better, which one do I like? And they're not food critics or professionals or anything. So um all that the home chef needs is one vote. One vote out of six to win five thousand dollars. And um, so that that one's actually gotten pretty interesting. But um, anything with uh Guy Fieri, but I think really my favorite would be Guy's Grocery Games out of all of them.

SPEAKER_02 25:01

I've seen a few episodes myself.

SPEAKER_03 25:04

They're fun, and like the the the trivia at at the end whenever they're doing the shopping, if if if he's not just calling out ingredients, if he's calling out like clues to go get the ingredient, that's always fun.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

Is it anything that you would want to pursue professionally or are you just like doing a probably not that just seems so stressful?

SPEAKER_03 25:24

Oh my gosh, I love cooking for myself and my husband, and then when people come to visit, um, I love cooking and making appetizers and hosting parties and things like that. And actually, I'm hosting my very first Thanksgiving this year um with my parents. Uh, but no, not professionally. I as much as I love it, I don't think I could handle that kind of stress knowing what kind of people are out there and complaints that they may have. I can't do it.

SPEAKER_00 25:56

Well, let's outside of uh in in the film world, outside of acting, is there anything else in film that interests you, like producing, directing, etc.?

SPEAKER_03 26:08

Um, so I don't think I'm very good with electronics, art, design, makeup, um, things like that. But what I think I could actually do and fairly well is directing. Um, I think that I I would be able to work with people in their in their character and in their role to actually take the script and pull the life out of that script and turn it into something. Um, I haven't had the opportunity to direct. Um, a lot of times I self-direct when I'm in films. If I if I don't get in some films, there have been instances where I don't get much direction. So um, because I've had to self-direct and then I get, okay, that was good. I just kind of build off of that.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

So that builds off of a question that I like to ask, which is do you have some favorite feedback that you've ever gotten from a director? Or um do you even like to get feedback?

SPEAKER_03 27:06

I I love feedback. Um, I am I live off of feedback. Um, I'm that kind of person. Um, unless you are literally telling me you're terrible, oh my gosh, change everything you're doing. Um, it's all constructive. And okay, here, let me tweak this. That's fine. Um, and I don't really know exactly what my favorite feedback or um uh some form of in my brain just shut off. I'm just gonna say feedback from a director has been. Um direction because yes, I uh uh because I'm always focused on being the character and having my lines down and then knowing when my other actors might be fumbling a little bit and knowing when to jump in, um, like from you know, plays that I've done. You're live, you can't fumble and sit there and ask for a line. It's improv at that point and getting back on the script. So I'm really focused on things like that. Um, I'm not always focused on what the most important thing a director has said to me or you know, my favorite compliment that I've gotten. But I think if I had to come up with something, um I think, and I don't really I it's not more direction. If I had to pick it, it would be that I've been told offset, actually in post-production, that I have a very good command of the camera's attention. Um, and I mean, obviously anyone could say that to anybody to like make them feel better, lift them up, but I choose, I do choose to believe that it's true, and it's a confidence booster. Um, and because I choose to act in order to entertain people. I mean, obviously it's a creative outlet, but I like to entertain people. And if I'm unforgettable, how entertaining could I be?

SPEAKER_01 29:00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

Interesting way you look at it. Well, I think I would I would agree with that comment. I think you I think you kind of draw the cameras on.

SPEAKER_03 29:09

If you're not, if you're not, even even if you're not like being disruptive to the scene, if if whatever it is, as subtle as it is, whatever it is you're doing, if if you're pulling the attention of the camera to you, not necessarily away from the other actors, but really being there, um, I think that's that's a really good thing to be able to do. Like I said, because if if you're not remembered, you're not entertaining.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

Yeah, some actors can kind of get lost if there's two or three on on a in a shot or it's like four shot, you know, that one of those actors can kind of get lost in the background a little bit, or not yeah, I know what you mean by that. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_03 29:48

And that would be that would be for like scenes where you know I'm either interacting with someone else, or maybe I'm in a shot with no lines. Um, I mean, if someone's talking and the camera's up close and it's just them in the picture, obviously they're going to to to have the attention of the audience and the camera. But um that that was more for scenes where I'm not the focus.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

So if you were directing, would you take more of that approach of of pulling the uh attention out of each individual actor of getting them more focused towards, you know?

SPEAKER_03 30:26

I I think yes, because when I'm watching shows or movies, um I do notice in certain scenes, actors are standing. If they're not talking, they're standing still. If they're not supposed to be reacting, they're standing still. And I understand that is so that they don't dis uh disrupt or become well, the shots match and things like that. Yeah, yeah. They don't, you know, uh you don't want to take away from the actor that's talking or the main actor the focus of that scene. So I understand that. Um I uh but like you said a few minutes ago, Cliff, they get lost. And if you're gonna be in the scene, there's a reason you're if you're gonna be in that shot, there's a reason you're in that shot, is how I feel. And it's not to stand still.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

Sometimes you'll be watching a a show or a movie, and the background extra is clearly not supposed to be drawing your attention, but they're doing something back there that's yes, and that's the worst example of uh that's distracting, yes.

SPEAKER_03 31:36

If if there's too much movement, it's distracting. Um and that's like I said, that that that's for background. Um, it's three or four main characters in the scene in the shot. I don't I don't necessarily mean the background actor actors, whom of which are very important to the scene, because without them, you're just four or five people standing in a room or in a coffee shop or in a mall or something. Um, so they're super important to bring that scene like in into the real world. Um, but if you're one of the main characters in that shot, um, a little bit of movement, it just feels more natural.

SPEAKER_00 32:15

It goes back to why I think it's a good idea and kind of important for actors to have some sort of stage experience before doing film or television because if you don't stand rod stiff on a stage when you're not acting, you know, you're moving, you're interacting.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

Yeah, that yeah, that feels very unnatural, actually. Yeah, the more you stand still on stage to me, the more unnatural. I've having done plays and stuff in high school. It's like I remember thinking, oh, I gotta move around here.

SPEAKER_03 32:42

I feel really and um when I was doing scene study, when I first started acting, doing scene study and acting classes, and um it's it was very important to not sit in the same position in your scene. It was super important to cross your arms, put it down, you know, move your arm a little bit, cross your legs, something nod your head, maybe itch, you know, scratch just a you know, scratch a shoulder or something like that. Something natural that you would do in real life because that's what you're supposed to be doing, is enacting real life.

SPEAKER_00 33:18

What do I do with my hands?

SPEAKER_03 33:21

I don't know what to do with my hands.

SPEAKER_02 33:28

Do you um do you have a favorite film? That's I always ask this is one of my favorite questions. So, do you have a favorite film that's based on a music? Not necessarily a musical, but uh a m a film that's based on music or uh about music?

SPEAKER_03 33:46

You know, um I actually have two. One is a film based on music, one is more musical and very silly. Um so, in seriousness, a movie that I enjoy based on music that isn't a musical is Walk the Line. Um I am a Johnny Cash fan. Um I do like most of his music, and I think Joaquin Phoenix and Reese Witherspoon did a great job in that film. And um I'm not one to sit down and watch uh Biopics or doc it's really not documentary, but um uh stories like that. But um it it got my attention and I wanted to watch the whole thing after I started watching.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

Yeah, I think Reese got the Oscar for that one.

SPEAKER_03 34:32

She she did a great job. Um, I mean, obviously their voices don't perfectly match, but Joaquin Phoenix did an amazing job singing Johnny Cash songs. Insane. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. And then my musical for fun, um, and it's okay to laugh, would be the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

SPEAKER_02 34:54

Yes, yeah, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_03 34:56

That's my that is my fun musical movie. I love it. I watch it several times a year. Um much to my husband's dismay.

SPEAKER_02 35:06

Do you have a favorite song from it?

SPEAKER_03 35:08

Um, no. I I mean, really, I I like all of them. Um, I mean, who doesn't love the time warp? You know what? I think the opening song.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

Or yeah, the opening nice fiction double feature. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:24

Yeah. Um double feature picture show.

SPEAKER_00 35:28

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:29

There's a great punk cover of that. That's that's fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 35:33

How many times seen it in the theater? I have not. I am from Tampa, and they used to have it at the performing arts center in downtown Tampa all the time, like when I was in high school and after I graduated high school, and I just I just never went. Yeah, and I'm sad about that. And I would really like to go and experience it live a Rocky Board picture show.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

You should definitely do that. I don't I don't know how many times Cliff has gone, but I've been like over 40. Yeah, I've I've been easily 20 or 30 times.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

Yeah, easily 20 or 30 times. More probably more than that.

SPEAKER_03 36:07

I think um I think there might be one in Jacksonville, which is only about two hours away from where I live. So I might be able to catch one there.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

I think it's probably worth the trip. If you if you haven't sat in an audience while they're screaming at that film, it's it's its own thing. And interacting with the film, yeah. It's its own thing. For the audience. Yeah, well, yeah, you mean if if if it's a if it's a true Rocky Horror picture show, I mean they have a everybody in everybody represents somebody from the cast and they act the film out in front of the screen. You have people running up and down the aisles, you know, water guns, rice being thrown. I am familiar with the water guns, yes. Yeah, newspapers over your head, water guns, rice, decks of playing cards. I can't even remember all the stuff here. But toast, toast, yes. Maybe you forget toast. But toast, zing, zing, zing. I can remember reference. I want to say it was Paul or maybe somebody else, but they snatched toast out of the air and like ate it. They were just like threw it.

SPEAKER_03 37:11

Crazy times we used to live in pre-COVID. Right.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

Yeah, I would never do that now. You could there's an interesting odor at the end of the night with all the rice and the water and the toilet post and the bottom of the theater floor.

SPEAKER_03 37:25

And the rice didn't dry up the floor.

SPEAKER_00 37:27

Yeah, it's a very interesting experience. Here at the loft, they they used it, used to be you could go crazy in there, and now they basically sell the little pre-packaged. Here's the things to throw out in the theater. Don't bring all your crazy stuff in here. We don't want to spend two hours cleaning the theater up anymore. But wasn't that the fun part? Cleaning up all that.

SPEAKER_03 37:46

I um every single year I say I'm going to put together a costume for Columbia. Um, and I just it I always wait until the end of September, and I'm like, all right, I just I can't get it together on time.

SPEAKER_02 38:00

Not that I can tap dance or anything, but I I ran a movie theater for six years and I I you know was always trying to drum up business in some way. And I remember calling my boss and saying, How about a Rocky or picture? Yeah, how about a midnight screening? We can do Rocky on a Friday and something else on a Saturday. And and it was the biggest, hardest just absolutely not. Don't no, no, because it's like you don't understand, you don't understand what you're talking about. Like you're gonna spend three hours cleaning that theater after you're done because the the uh the theater's gonna be so trashed that the people who clean because we you know you have a cleaning crew that comes in overnight and cleans all the theaters out, they'll refuse to do it. It's so trash, they'll they're like, Nope, not in our contract. So you actually have to go in there for two or three hours to clean that theater. It's like you you don't want to do that, trust me. All right, that's fine. He said and said it's probably the most destructive show to a theater, like with you know, the water everywhere and things everywhere, it attracts a lot of rodents because you don't get it all. Um it's yeah, yeah. And and rodents are a big problem in movie theaters. I not to sorry, sorry to bust your uh bubble for people listening and that yeah, they're in podcast land, but yeah, it's it's a big problem in movie theaters. Well, that food everywhere, right? All those popcorn literally popcorn concessions everywhere. It's I mean and I mean they have like I said, they have people come in with blowers, giant uh leaf blowers at night and blow all that stuff out and sweep it up, but they still don't get it all.

SPEAKER_03 39:26

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 39:27

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:28

There have to be professional cleaning companies who are open to doing stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

Oh, yeah, there's there's cleaning companies that's all they do is service service theaters over overnight.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 39:38

It is funny because popcorn is an item you would never see in Iraqi screening. Like people won't buy normal concession for that. It's true, they just get too gross.

SPEAKER_02 39:51

Popcorn, no, take the carmeline. Well, yeah, it's like as soon as you get the water, yeah, you get the water gun in your popcorn, you're like, ugh, I don't want to eat this.

SPEAKER_00 40:00

You put the newspaper over it during the light scene. I don't think I've gone in over 10 years. We we used to go in the early 90s, and then when I went a few years ago to take a bunch of people from work, it was the same, but it was different, you know, because every generation makes it their own and they change all the comeback lines and stuff. But it is nice that it's still going after, geez, a few more years is gonna be 50. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:28

1975?

SPEAKER_00 40:30

Yeah, yeah, 40 and Jesus. Wow. We first saw it at a tiny theater here in town. The loft before it was on Speedway used to be over on, I think it was sixth, and it was this tiny one-screen upstairs theater. It was very intimate. And wow, we had some epic water battles in there. The slightest splash on screen, we're dumping full buckets of water on people. Oh, it was it was good times.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

It was and that print was so messed up that like it skipped it skipped entire parts of scenes. It was just trashed. It was so so good. It was so good. It was such good screen. Anyway, good times. Yeah, good times. Olivia, you are you you are, I just wanted to say you are in one of my favorite shots in Revenge of Zoe, uh, which is you giving the tattoo.

SPEAKER_01 41:19

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_02 41:20

It's the shot where the lights behind you and kind of over your shoulder and we're behind the the guy getting in your in your uh Chris, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's probably one of my favorite shots in the movie, I think. It really is a pretty shot.

SPEAKER_03 41:34

That one was fun. Uh learning how to uh without actually using it, learning how to use a tattoo gun. Uh that was interesting.

SPEAKER_02 41:43

Um watching you use it for the first time was hilarious because you were you were holding it. Like holding it in the back, like remember we asked the tattoo guy, like, can you get in there and give her some instructions, please?

SPEAKER_00 41:56

We got you the correct gloves. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:59

Again, y'all y'all held hands around some candles and said, That's our Katie. The old dish.

SPEAKER_02 42:06

Yeah, that's right. We put those giant, he had those black gloves and they were giant on your hands. Yeah, all these tiny hands just didn't you guys go get me some like smaller purple gloves or something? Yeah, we ordered them specially for you, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:18

Yay. It was it was so much better.

SPEAKER_02 42:23

Yeah, that that tattoo that tattoo place was more than I really had hoped for. It was yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:29

And he was really nice. His name was Christian, right?

SPEAKER_02 42:31

Yeah, he was that dude was so cool. He basically just threw the keys at us and was like, see, I'm gonna go drink and have fun, make art.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

Occasionally, I think he's running another tattoo shop that I think he owns it this time, but you know, I don't know if he's ever watched the movie though.

SPEAKER_03 42:48

I think the last time I was in Tucson, his his shop wasn't there. That was back in 2020. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:56

Yeah, it wasn't a show. What a cool shop, man. It was like art and stuff everywhere. It was like it was just a filmmaker's dream to shoot in there. It's like, wow, we don't have to dress this place, it's perfect. I know.

SPEAKER_03 43:06

No logos or brands anywhere.

SPEAKER_00 43:08

It's perfect. All his stuff. Yep. Another one of the many locations we shot at, and then it's no longer there. That's how no curse. We uh I think for I think it's just time more than anything, is what happens. But that's the nice thing about the movies, it's this time capsule of all those locations. I remember uh we were scouting a bunch of different tattoo shops in town, and they were all huge, you know, and it would have looked nice with three chairs and everything, but it just it it wasn't it wasn't the same as Christian's shop.

SPEAKER_03 43:42

We walked in there and Christian's shop was small and intimate. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:46

It was kind of profound. And it just seemed so personal, like Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Like it and it felt like I don't know, it was like this kind of seems like something Katie would do.

SPEAKER_03 43:57

And not be in a big w just plain white sterile looking. Right. Right. Cozy. Open.

SPEAKER_02 44:04

Not overly f cozy, not overly feminine, but artistic at the same time. You know, just really nice little nice little space. Really kitty place.

SPEAKER_00 44:13

Sitting in there drinking coffee or reading reading comic and choking under Cliff, uh one of my favorite moments on set, um, actually between both of the films, I have lots of them.

SPEAKER_03 44:28

I think um uh most of my favorite ones were um annoying the crap out of everybody with uh my casually snarky remarks in between takes um that's you know it's my specialty but uh back to the tattoo parlor I think my favorite shot um was in Revenge of Zoe and it was at the very beginning and Owen comes running in Katie's enjoying her morning tea Owen comes running in she spills her tea that was a good tea so she's a little upset she's a little irked and as I'm walking out of the tattoo parlor as I'm walking out of the tattoo parlor I notice um there's someone with uh a newspaper at the storefront marching down the storefront and I'm just like you know what Katie's got to get some anger out before she goes and unleashes on um Eric. And so I see Cliff there with a newspaper and I just grab it and rip it out of his hands and throw it down on the ground as I'm marching by totally unscripted. And you played it off so well.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

I'm not ruining that shot are you kidding me? That's going all the way through there's no yeah it was perfect because I remember with the first time we did it you just walked by and I was like okay good we've got that one let's do a second one for safety because we're always we always like to do a safety take in case there's some sort of file problem with the card or whatever and you come striding by all storming by and you just grab that paper and ripped it out of my hands and I was like oh that's perfect. Okay I'll just hey what the hell you know and you just kept going it was perfect. Throw it now that was probably my favorite yeah that was great I I completely forgot about that moment. I can't believe I did that because that was great the crew laughed their asses off. That was hysterically funny.

SPEAKER_03 46:14

Nobody said anything until cut.

SPEAKER_02 46:17

Yeah lost it it was great. And of course that's the one that ended up in the mil in the film.

SPEAKER_03 46:24

Yeah I think we had to do it a second time though just in case and we're trying to like get the newspaper like flattened back out from where I grabbed it. I do remember that that's uh that's my favorite moment now that you mentioned the you know being in the tattoo parlor and having a favorite moment that is that's mine it was also the tattoo parlor.

SPEAKER_02 46:44

Cool that's a good one that's a really good one. I mean you you're you're you're very most of the people that we've worked with are very easy to work with so it's easy to have a lot of good memories of working with you right yeah like most of the time on set was was great. I remember you when we early on when we were filming and you weren't supposed to be on set that day and I looked over and you're sitting in Charlie's and she you're like can I just sit and watch and we're like yeah dude sit and do whatever you want. At the comic book store yeah yeah yeah just wanted to watch yeah plus kind of give me the feeling of like oh maybe there's something special maybe there's a buzz or a vibe going on here. People are showing up and hanging out just to hang out which is very cool.

SPEAKER_03 47:21

Yeah I mean I have I have done films and um worked with people where they just show up do their work and then go away and they don't talk to each other they don't really interact with each other unless they're on set. And I don't I didn't get that from anybody um in either of these films. That is not something that um was encouraged I and I'm not saying like hey let's all hang out was encouraged or anything like that. But it it just it felt oh it felt normal to just and you guys had never worked with me before I think we had filmed one or two days and I saw you I was driving past the comic book store and I looked over and I saw you there. And I was like oh can I just go in and say hi and watch um so it it felt welcoming.

SPEAKER_02 48:10

Yeah good that's good that's what we want and it's that's how we you know you once you can kind of work with us you're kind of stuck with us to a certain extent we're probably gonna we're probably gonna call you again at some point and put you in front of a camera for something.

SPEAKER_03 48:21

Yeah um well I I don't mind like um like I said it was it was encouraging and very easy to work with you guys on both of these films and you're very accommodating. I mean obviously there are like hey you know we we really need to get these shots done uh you know we're here to work but also very accommodating and there was we were allowed to have fun on set. Yeah we were as as long as we got the shots and we got our work done and we didn't distract and we didn't keep us from finishing for the day um yeah we were allowed to have fun and I enjoyed that.

SPEAKER_02 49:00

Yeah we want that play is important it's relaxing and relaxed people do do good work.

SPEAKER_03 49:08

So that is that is something that I miss.

SPEAKER_00 49:11

Everybody was real good about that on on the sets. We don't usually have anybody who's like the stick in the mud or you know or it's like hey why does this person not I I think we do a good job vetting that out during the audition process you know we're not gonna bring up names from the past that don't matter from ancient history that didn't make the projects but there have been some people where you go oh that that wouldn't work no that's not yeah no thankfully everybody we've brought on the set it creates this nice kind of almost family vibe with each other and we all get we all get along and it's not it doesn't that really translates that translates into the acting yeah it does um because once um you know we did the revenge of Zoe film and then we got to uh love song and I'm in the AA meeting with Billy and it you know we had worked together before and we are Billy and Katie are now in this relationship it was a little bit easier we hadn't just met for this film.

SPEAKER_03 50:12

So and we were able to interact on the previous film and um get to know each other um as people and have fun on set and um so translating having fun to being like boyfriend girlfriend like playful but quit that um that's that's a perfect way to put it playful but quit that um while he's so that that translates well and that's that's another favorite scene of mine was the AA meeting at the beginning of Love Song.

SPEAKER_02 50:45

Yeah it's it's a good one and you pulled it off really well there's there's there's a lot like when we went to cut it it was like oh there's a lot here to work with there's so much stuff here to work with it's really good.

SPEAKER_03 50:54

Yes um uh but yeah that's that's that's what I I I do miss and enjoy was um because if if if we aren't having fun how are we getting close enough to actually portray our characters and the relationships between our characters.

SPEAKER_00 51:10

Exactly that's one of the things uh professionally anyways that I really appreciate about working with the same people over and over again is like you're saying you've built the rapport you can go right into it even if you were playing different characters and a completely different movie you still have that working relationship and so that's that's like five steps we get to skip past and just jump right into the energy yeah skip past being awkward and I don't know who you are and what are you like on set.

SPEAKER_02 51:40

Yeah yeah the trust is there you know what we're doing you trust that you trust that we know what we're doing we trust that you know that you're doing what you're doing and you're gonna give us what what we need to have get on film and and and yeah like you said all that awkwardness and weirdness is kind of not there. Not there. It's gone.

SPEAKER_00 51:55

And then we're like oh we're getting the gang back together. Oh great what are you what are you shooting while I'll be there the Scooby gang yes dang straight the Scooby gang kind of like the uh reason we're doing the podcast like we were saying earlier it's an it's an excuse to reconnect with everybody and you know hang out or so and under the guise I'm gonna ask you questions but it's really like hey how you doing and it's you know yeah we're turning the engine over again you know trying to get the the next the next couple films going so we're trying to you know just wake everybody back up and hey guys everybody awake yes and I've had um I've had the past two years to finish uh uh Eric and I were working on two things I've had the past two years to finish writing some stuff that I just haven't at least one of them have not finished so I am absolutely procrastinating in that department writing's right writing's such the e the the easiest thing to procrastinate on it's it's oh my gosh I hate doing it there's always an excuse not to write there's always an excuse not to what's worse I'm not somebody who has all these ideas about like oh this would make a really good show or this would be a really good movie I want to tell this story I have two and I can't get it done writing is the worst um it's it's fun it's fun to give your opinions and create characters but writing to get it pitched is not fun I really like that we get together and we didn't know each other and we make these projects and then after the project ends other projects come to fruition from that now you're working with Eric and you all wouldn't have even met each other it's just like Bradford doing a movie with Christian a short film and it's just it's just nice how it just continues to grow and branch out like the film I did with Christian that was that was fun.

SPEAKER_03 53:55

But it it was it was really nice to see him on the set of Love Song as well because like I said we had worked together um in in the past um so and it's it's really nice to see all these other people um that I've worked with come back as well. So um I do I do really like that.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

Yeah we do too it's comfortable it's comfortable it's it's familiar and it's you know yeah the goal I think kind of the goal for Marty and I is like eventually we'll do a film where we bring in like a you know like a name actor to attach to the picture and make people go see it but then everybody else is just people that we've worked with in the past that are all just like well you know the entire casting that person is just all of our friends that we've had in the past.

SPEAKER_00 54:40

You get that combination of people who have returned brand new people and then like a name actor or two and then we swirl that all up together and then who knows what happens from there.

SPEAKER_02 54:50

So right if it's Henry Cavill let me know I have to be your lady lady first to know I don't know that that would probably work very well because it would be like Olivia we need Henry Cavill on set.

SPEAKER_03 55:02

Well I'm talking to him yes but we need him on set but I'm talking to him now we're talking about his horse roach sorry I will learn I will learn to play Dungeons and Dragons teaching me something you heard first and I'm it's up to you guys to make that happen.

SPEAKER_00 55:31

Oh okay yeah I'm on it down to I'm on it Olivia don't worry have your people call my people exactly have your machine call my machine did you have anything that you wanted to plug?

SPEAKER_03 55:49

Any up I'm sorry anything you wanted to plug any upcoming projects you wanted people to know about or uh um so I actually have three one is in post-production it's a um an anthology of short audiobooks that I can't really talk about uh as well as my other two projects I can't actually talk about one um is going to be a series um the other one is um a full-length uh period Western film uh but that I'm writing and um the the television show and the film that I'm writing I would be the lead actor in them um but it's like I like I mentioned it's it's finishing up the writing and the package to get them pitched is is what's holding me back and that's me holding me back. So um that that would be a lot of fun because um actually oh I I I have been in a western before but I was a very small role in the western I did have a couple lines um but I was a relatively small role um but I I think to be in a western would be very fun like actually as a lead role would be pretty fun.

SPEAKER_02 57:04

I love westerns I like them yeah I wrote a I wrote a first uh draft for a horror western that's just that's I think it's gonna be a series that might be pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 57:14

That's female lead it's a female lead horror western um but yeah I love I love westerns yeah yeah I I we first time I wrote it I was like is this any good Mari's like and then he came back to me he was like I think actually this might be pretty good and I was like this is really brutal yeah it's it's it's kind of it's it's brutal it's one of those you know how there's those old west westerns that are kind of romantic of the old west and then there are the old westerns that are sort of the brutal more kind of I I would call them more realistic versions of the old west where it's everything where everything's dirty you know and kind of gross and gritty and brutal gritty yeah you know yeah I don't the um the the the one with um DiCaprio and the bear you know as opposed to true grit right okay yeah uh what was that called the Revenant right The Revenant thank you yeah the revenant thank you yeah yeah yeah um there's a Western that I uh show that I actually enjoyed it's called Hell on Wheels I actually really enjoyed that it's actually pretty decent yeah yeah yeah that was a good good western show I just watched um what was it I watched the other day oh Marty sent me a copy of The Man Without a Star Oh Kirk Douglas Western that I love to see a man without a scar a stand man without a star he doesn't have a star in the sky to point him on his way and so he's a he's a lost cowboy oh okay so not like a sheriff star okay no exactly yeah it's but like a star in the sky to guide him you know so it's it's really good it's it's uh that's deep it is deep I thought and and it's a kind of an antithesis of a western like he's the hero but he's also kind of a jerk like he's not a he's he's kind of a CAD you know uh uh uh not your typical white hat wearings you know hero of a western which I guess that's where quite I liked it when I was a kid I'd I'd never seen anything like it we feel that way about uh Hell on Wheels as well um I can't remember the name main character name but I think the actor is Ansom Mount I think is who that is um yeah same thing like he's not a bad guy but he doesn't look like a hero right is that Taylor Sheridan did he do that I think I'd always somewhere in my mind I assumed that was like a Sons of Anarchy type show based on the but it's not yeah it's well and I know Taylor did he did did Sons of Anarchy and he's doing um he's doing uh Yellow Yellowstone and something else I think he's yeah oh I do like Yellowstone I've only seen season one uh but I do enjoy it and I want to watch the rest of it keep keep going it gets even better it gets grittier way I've heard yeah I I have heard yeah yeah you either like that or you don't I I I I watched all three seasons like this is not I mean I can see why people dig this this is pretty decent you know um let's see so nothing to plug other than your your three shows that you your three things that you can't talk about basically the three things I can't talk about one is um like I said an anthology of short stories um will be audiobooks um as far as I know they're gonna be completed relatively soon um and then the show and the film that I'm writing to get pitched hopefully as the lead actor um but if I had to if I had to put the door with it yeah basically and I need to finish up the writing uh but I mean living in Valdasta I haven't seen very many acting opportunities that aren't at least two maybe three and a half hours away um and in you know to do auditions sometimes auditions could be hey this coming Saturday and it's Wednesday and um I I may not be able to make it up to maybe Atlanta or down to Orlando for an audition and even if I do I'm not local.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:07

Right, right right which is very difficult.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:10

Well like because again if it's about a small production they've got to put you up and all that kind of stuff and then they've got to worry about how to get you there and transportation and exactly exactly um and a lot of a lot of the films with the casting calls that I see there um very low budget independent films or maybe they're student films or um filmmakers just starting out so they wouldn't have the budget to bring actors in that would be something that I I would have to pay for I mean if it was something in Tampa not a big deal I could stay with my parents and I can drive down there.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:43

But um a lot of places want local and it's very difficult for me to be considered local. Yeah that's that's that's terrible yeah so I keep my I keep my eyes open for um voiceovers uh I don't have any um samples yet to be able to send um kind of like a a reel I don't I don't have any of that yet but the characters I play more than one character in the audiobook that I did and they're all completely different voices completely different age groups completely different people. Does New York make an appearance your New York accent makes make an appearance no does not my uh my British accent does my new york accent does not yes um but it's it's uh they're they're very intriguing stories um and very very well written I enjoyed not only reading them but playing the characters that was that was fun and um setting up my own sound booth at home and uh telling my husband to turn the AC off which he hated uh because man that microphone picks everything up oh it picks up cars a quarter of a mile away it's really cool though uh but no other than other than those three that I can't really talk about because none of them are finished um I I don't have anything coming up I have no no shameless self-advertising to do here well when we have you on next time maybe you'll have something ready for us that uh I hope so yeah I hope so uh maybe something will be at the next phase of um pre-production or maybe even released yes that would be great uh so then I can actually talk about it and advertise it. Yeah hopefully our film will be out about that point maybe we can have you back on and we can talk about that how you felt about how you felt about how that turned out yes um and when that does premiere or uh gets to um the big screen let me know I really want to see it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:55

We'll do we'll do Olivia we appreciate you coming on it's so good to see you.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:01

Marty I appreciate you having me it's really good to see you. It was it was really good to see you. It has been a very long time um I think the last we it just been emails since 2020. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:16

Yeah all right well um we will close it off close it off there then I guess Marty do you have anything else?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:24

Uh the only other thing I was gonna mention as an aside was when when we talked to Bradford he was telling us how he was driving to back and forth from Tucson to Phoenix like weekly for auditions you know it just and you go up there two minute audition okay thank you and he's good to drive all the way back and it would just be after a while yeah that's that's the hard part about um auditioning where you don't live yeah yeah and then getting the role and that's a whole nother problem yes as as we found with a love song yeah that was a tough one yeah all right olivia well well it's good to see you and again we'll talk to you soon bye thanks for having me bye bye