Making Pondo with Gia Gerardo

 In this episode we talk with Gia Gerardo. Gia played Tonya, in The Love Song of William H. Shaw.

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to season two of Making Pondo and Talking Pondo. Talking Pondo is a podcast where Cliff and Marty give each other a film to watch and talk about them in detail. Some episodes will include a special guest. Making Pondo is a podcast where Cliff and Marty talk to people they have worked with and discuss their experiences on set.

SPEAKER_03 0:21

Today on Making Pondo, we talk with Gia Gerardo, who played Tanya and the love song of William H. Shaw.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Alright, Marty, we're back.

SPEAKER_03 0:33

Alright, and we're back. Once again, it's another episode of uh Making Pondo, where we talk to people we've made movies with.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

That's right. And who do we have this week?

SPEAKER_03 0:47

This week we have Gia Gerardo coming to us directly from Ohio.

SPEAKER_00 0:53

By way of LA via Tucson.

SPEAKER_03 0:55

By way of Tucson, yes.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

World Track. Well, welcome, Gia. Thank you for thank you for showing up.

SPEAKER_04 1:02

Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me on on board. This is awesome. And congratulations for your podcast. This is awesome. This is cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

It's fun. It's been a lot of fun. It's um it's a kind of an excuse for us to be able to kind of keep in touch with the people that we're working with and kind of keep the the keep the movie juices going until we get our next project up and running. So um so you played Tanya in our last film.

SPEAKER_04 1:27

That was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

You were great.

SPEAKER_04 1:31

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

Um I wish I had actually been there for the shooting. Unfortunately, I uh we you know, due to COVID and the way that the shooting was broken up, couldn't do it. So I you know but um I heard it was a lot of fun, and you're you're uh you have one of the best lines in my opinion in the film.

SPEAKER_04 1:48

Which one?

SPEAKER_00 1:50

The one about your sarcasm being a cup of coffee. Uh you know, you'd hold what's the line, Marty? Uh your sarcasm is a thing of beauty. I wish it was a cup of coffee, and I would hold it until it grew cold and eventually grew up. Inevitably it got cold or until inevitably it got cold. Yeah, and then he goes, I don't know what to say to that and just walks off. Um that line gets a laugh. Well, I've been to two or three festivals now and sat with audiences and watched it, and that line always gets a gut laugh.

SPEAKER_04 2:19

Oh yay!

SPEAKER_00 2:19

I'm glad that always gets a gut laugh. You nailed it.

SPEAKER_04 2:23

Oh my gosh, you have no idea what that means to me because um I struggle with comedy, at least I think I do. And I feel like I could never do I I feel like I never nail it. I feel like I'm not good at comedy, so I that's that means the world. Thank you. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 2:39

Yeah, yeah, it was great.

SPEAKER_04 2:41

That's good. That was a lot of fun, a lot of fun on set that day.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

There was a uh yeah, you worked really well with Jeff too. There was an interesting chem chemistry at play there. Um, and I love that scene of the two of you where um you know he puts on the lab coat and the sir, you're about to see something pretty special, and you know, that's some good stuff.

SPEAKER_04 3:05

And it's funny because I don't think that scene was supposed to go that way. I I don't think we were supposed to be because I remember when we did it, um, I think you, Marty said, Oh, I would that's not the way I was thinking, but it's actually looking pretty good. I don't think we were supposed to act like we were interested in each other. I really don't know. I don't know, but I think we took it to a different um area that it was meant to be, but I guess it worked out pretty good. I had a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

It did, yeah. I I also love your uh um excuse me or pardon me, you're pardoned. Uh go away, weirdo, nobody cares. That whole the way you just brush the customer off is fantastic. And we've been trying to do that in all these movies, and I think in the third one's the one where we kind of nailed it perfectly. This this idea of the comic book person who just doesn't really want to deal with you. I know you're here to buy something, but I don't want to do it.

SPEAKER_04 4:01

Nice. I'm glad to hear that. You it's uh I say it was an honor. Like I said, I keep saying it, it was a lot of fun. I had a lot of fun doing that. I'm so glad I was on it. Um bah.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

Yeah, all that stuff plays really well. Yeah, like Cliff was saying, every screening, it's just you know, people come away with the some of the Adam and Tanya stuff being some of their favorite parts, they remark to us. So it'll be great when early next year, hopefully, hopefully it gets uh put out to where people can see it on a oh yay.

SPEAKER_04 4:35

That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 4:37

Yeah, we've we've uh I I guess we can say we're we won't won't mention two just yet, but we've signed a distribution deal for uh the trilogy of films. We just put we just the the contract still ink is still wet on the contract. So we're in the deliverables phase, getting them everything they need so that they can go start pitching to platforms and uh and putting us. It's a it's a it's a global uh world, it's a worldwide distribution. So basically anywhere that's anywhere that's English speaking, hopefully will be will be people of you. So if you have friends in the UK or Australia or someplace like that, Canada, you can point them to it uh hopefully pretty soon. And if it does well, who knows? Well maybe we'll you know ME a couple of them and and get them to other countries with some subtitles or some for you know some other tracks or something. That would be amazing. Yeah, yeah, we're super excited about that.

SPEAKER_04 5:24

So congratulations, yeah, just moving forward and just doing good things. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

Well, and you'll be able to point all your friends to Tubi and say, There I am, there I am. I don't know if it's Tubi or whatever platforms. Whatever it is, who knows? Yeah, hopefully it's a bunch. I mean, I'd like to see it saturated on you know at least five or six types of platforms. I think this one.

SPEAKER_04 5:45

I heard it's doing really well, it's winning a lot of um awards and getting nominated and all that. So that's uh that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Yeah, it's yeah, it's pretty surprising. We just won for best feature at um the Origins uh gaming festival. That was a big deal.

SPEAKER_03 6:02

That one really surprised me. It's like, wow, best feature, that's like of the whole festival. Wow, okay.

SPEAKER_04 6:09

I'm so lucky that I got to be on that one. And I worked on the um on the first one, I want to say.

SPEAKER_03 6:16

I was gonna say Revenge of Zoe. You were there for the Timothy's on.

SPEAKER_04 6:20

I was like a PA. Yeah, I was only the Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_03 6:24

Another day that Cliff wasn't there, strangely enough. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:27

It's weird. You've been you've been worked on two movies, and I'm kind of a big part of this stuff, and you and I have never physically been in the same room together. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:39

Yeah, you were not there either that day that I was doing PA. That's true. So you're just avoiding me. I get it.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

Yeah, well, you know.

SPEAKER_04 6:47

No, GS gonna be there. We're not gonna be there.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

No, no, no, no, I can't do that.

SPEAKER_04 6:54

That's great.

SPEAKER_03 6:55

So that was basically what we flew uh Tim in for one day, and uh I didn't pick him up at the airport. I think Eric might have. I don't know if if you were in the car for all of that. I just remember meeting everybody back at Jeff's old house and building that back room and spending a couple hours just letting Tim do his thing on the telephone there. And and I guess you all had a dinner after before he went back home, but I came home and immediately fell asleep, and so I woke up much later and he was already gone by then. So I was like, well, at least you all got to see him off, but that's what dinner with Timothy's on like that must have been fun.

SPEAKER_04 7:33

It was very nice. His wife was there, um and just very down to earth. And and it, you know, it's so funny about him talking about him being down to earth. When I met him, I had no idea who he was.

SPEAKER_01 7:48

Right.

SPEAKER_04 7:49

We were doing uh, we were on a on a like um like a panel at the Tucson Con. Is it called Tucson Con? So I was part of the panel with with um with Jeff and and other people, and um all of a sudden this man approaches me and and it's him, and he starts asking me about myself, and I just tell him, you know, I'm an actress and I do a few things here and there, and then then I was like, When you know, and I'm sorry, who are you?

SPEAKER_00 8:16

And he said, Oh, I'm just a writer, like the humility, right?

SPEAKER_04 8:22

Yeah, and I almost let him go, um, because he didn't look like he wanted to talk about himself, and I just said, What do you write? And then when he said, I was like, Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

I did a character for Star Wars called Tron. You may have heard of him.

SPEAKER_04 8:40

I pretty much saved the whole franchise. Yeah, but very, you know, very down to earth. And and I I it was a lot of fun. Um, I know that we were joking around when we were having dinner and saying that we were gonna make another movie and I was gonna be the villain, and I don't know. It was crazy. Yeah, his wife was amazing too. She was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_03 9:04

Cool. Yeah, we got to have him back for the for the third movie, so he he comes back one more time.

SPEAKER_04 9:10

Oh really?

SPEAKER_03 9:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:11

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

Yeah, he shows up just as uh he's a he's uh what teleconferenced guest at the con, right? So he shows up on a video screen and introduces the introduces the latest frenzy movie, and you find out he's a writer and producer of the frenzy movies now.

SPEAKER_04 9:27

Oh wow, that's Billy, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Billy doesn't do it anymore, and so so uh he's kind of taken over.

SPEAKER_04 9:34

Holy moly.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

Yeah, so that's amazing. It's interesting because we we kind of wrote him as like not a bad guy, but we we didn't write him as like a I mean we wrote him as a guy who's kind of sneaks in and is kind of you know taking over a franchise a little bit, right? But in reality, he probably would never do that. He's a super nice guy.

SPEAKER_04 9:55

Oh god, you know, absolutely, but he did such a good job, he did a really good job on that scene. I remember that. I was like, oh my gosh. Um, I think we were joking. Did we have a cat on his lap or were we joking around about putting it?

SPEAKER_03 10:09

We were joking about each other.

SPEAKER_04 10:11

Yeah, you should yeah, that's he looked perfect, like he could just be uh petting this cat while he was saying his lines.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

It was just well his he yeah, he gives this this look at the end with when he hangs up from was Ira he's talking to, he gets that look of like you know, this kind of devious look of foreshadowing on his face. I loved it. And he got lucky acting either, so yeah, and we got lucky. I mean, most of the people that we worked with gave really fantastic performances. Oh, yeah, you know, we didn't really and didn't really have to drag it out of anybody. I think maybe there were a few scenes um where we had to kind of massage the work material, but I think that was more of the material than it was the actor, you know, a certain size where you just go, well, it's just changed a little bit, it's not working. But yeah, we got lucky.

SPEAKER_04 10:58

That's awesome. That's great.

SPEAKER_03 11:00

Like uh you you remember uh in one of your scenes, you were supposed to answer the phone in the middle of the scene at the comic book shop, and the train kept going past, and we could never get the shot. So we just kind of you never answer the phone in the finished version of the movie. It was one of those like it just works better doing it this way.

SPEAKER_04 11:20

It's too much work to wait for these damn trains, just take it off. Always something, always something. Um, I was we was we were just downtown um for the last couple of weeks, downtown Cleveland, and they were filming Superman, and so and they were actually filming it around the building where we were at, and they some of the scenes were built inside, but there's so much noise down there. There's always sirens going off, cars honking horns, people, you know, it's just I I always wonder how in the world are they doing all this?

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Um they're they're I mean, they're probably capturing sound for reference, but I would be willing to bet that they're recreating the entire the entire soundscape is recreated posts because you're you know, why go back and wipe all the background shit out when you when I can just have the actors come in, ADR the lines, and then build the you know, build the room tone and build all the noises that I want, right? I would I would bet that that's probably 90% of what they're doing.

SPEAKER_04 12:23

It has to be because it was very noisy down there, a lot, a lot of noise.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

Yeah, I mean honking screaming and yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:33

And then we had you had the um the police station and the firefighter station right up the road. So every hour or less, every 45 minutes, you hear them going. Yeah, I was just like, oh my gosh, yeah. I got video um from the uh oh my god, no. My my computer is telling me to restart right now. No, we're not starting my computer. Not a good time for an update.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

Terrible time for an update.

SPEAKER_04 13:02

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

Um, was it was it the new is that the James Gunn Superman? Is that the one? The new one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, who did you know who they cast for uh the new Superman?

SPEAKER_04 13:14

Who is I've never heard of him, I have no idea who he is. I looked him up um and I couldn't recognize him, so I don't know who he is. I was bummed up it's not my boyfriend, uh Henry Cavill.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

Ah, David Corinsweat.

unknown 13:32

I have no idea.

SPEAKER_02 13:33

Do you know David Aliens in that movie? What the hell? Really?

SPEAKER_00 13:36

All right, I'll watch it.

SPEAKER_04 13:38

Yeah, yeah. And I guess um the original Superman, um Reeves, his son, made a cameo in the movie. There's a lot they're already spoiling it because you know they're filming it out in public, and so everybody's taking videos and pictures of the whole thing. I have video of everything.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

Cleveland. I guess they've chosen Cleveland as metropolis, so that's interesting.

SPEAKER_04 14:05

Yeah, um, I think wasn't the original uh filmed here in Cleveland. I think that's why they came back here to kind of make it like a the original Superman from okay. I believe, yeah, I believe it was actually filmed here. Yeah, I don't know for sure, but that's what I heard, and that's probably why they chose to come back.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

Interesting. Yeah, I'm looking that up right now. I'm I'm a very filling location.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

Yeah, we had to uh kind of not re redo the sound, but when we were shooting in our fake comic book shop, you remember how echoey it was in there?

SPEAKER_01 14:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 14:49

And our uh sound editor worked with the various microphones and got it to the point where you don't hear any of that reverb because we were real concerned on set. I remember thinking, is this gonna be echoey? And it's like, no, just go ahead and do it and we'll fix it in post as your thing.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

I hate that saying so much because that's just basically like, well, we'll just we'll just cross our fingers and hopefully when we get all done. But yeah, he did a great job on that, and um it does make the room sounds big, like it has a bigger of a booming kind of sound to it, but it's not echoey like the original microphone stuff sounds like, yeah, it's really good. And I think he did it by basically killing a lot of the uh the boom or the boom and using like lobs mostly or something. But he did a good job. Sounds good. Good, good to hear.

SPEAKER_03 15:40

So, how did you find us start working with this? I know you had been working with Eric as far back as El Patron, right? Was that was that what that short was called?

SPEAKER_04 15:50

I did, yeah. That was a long time ago, yeah. So yeah, that was one of them. Um, I think if I'm not mistaken, Cliff, I think he worked on. Did you work on what was the name of that movie? Uh The Black Widow? Did you work on that? No, I thought you did. Okay, so I thought that's what I had originally met you at. No, maybe not. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

Unfortunately not.

SPEAKER_04 16:19

Yeah, no, okay. So I don't know. I mean, we have a lot of friends in common too, you know. Um, yeah, like Elisa and her husband from El Patron. And then uh, you know, Jeff had known Jeff for a little while as well. Don't remember how exactly I met Jeff, probably through Elisa as well. Um, met a lot of people through them. So, and I worked with Elisa with you know on a few projects, and so that that that's probably how I ended up. Um, and I know that um that's when for the PA one on the first one, Elisa called me to just because they needed help. And so I ended up working a day um on set doing that at Jeff's house. And then for the second one, or for the one that I was uh Tanya, uh Jeff called me because something happened because everybody thought I was still in LA because I moved to LA for a little bit and then I moved back to Tucson and I never told anyone, I guess. So people thought that I was still in LA. So he called me when they had asked me, you know, where are you? And I was like, I'm in Arizona, and I guess something happened to the other girl, she broke a leg or something that was supposed to be Tanya, and they were desperately and looking for somebody, so I ended up stepping in, and you know, I'm I'm I'm sorry for whoever that was, but that was it was a lot of fun for me.

SPEAKER_00 17:50

I don't remember her name, but what was her name? It was Sarah. Yeah, Sarah. She did the makeup for she did makeup effects for us, right?

SPEAKER_03 17:57

Yeah, so she she's and she's also in the movie in the background in a couple spots, so she's still in there. She just didn't get the name role. She just didn't get her character. What happened was if you remember that that fake comic shop we in that we made, it had the most narrowest staircase you could possibly imagine. And we're thinking, how are we gonna carry somebody in and out of here who's got a broken leg? We'll end up with broken legs, so it was kind of like look, sorry, and then she understood. And and then it it was meant to be your role. So it happens sometimes.

SPEAKER_04 18:31

I loved it. I loved it. I had so much fun with that role. I still have I should have worn it right now. I still have the shirt. Why didn't I think about it? Um, there was a shirt that you had me wear in one of the scenes, it was a black shirt, and I think it says Mari Wanos, who wants our first one. You have that shirt, that's fantastic. It is, I still have it, I should have worn it. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

That's so funny.

SPEAKER_04 19:01

Yeah, I wore that in one of the scenes, so I still have it.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

Yeah, that's that that makes sense. That tracks. We would yeah, we would we would we would put you in something like that.

SPEAKER_04 19:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:13

But so outside of acting, is there another uh field in film that you've been interested in pursuing or have pursued?

SPEAKER_04 19:25

I would love to do some directing. Um I I've never tried. I've never wants to direct. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

Because they look at me, they look at us, and they that looks easy.

SPEAKER_04 19:40

It looks like fun, like I could do that.

SPEAKER_00 19:41

Standing around talking and pointing at stuff. It's bad.

SPEAKER_04 19:45

You just tell actors what to do and then they do it. Yes. It's fun.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

It was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_04 19:51

Yeah, I I have seen all the work that directors go through, and and sometimes I wonder, could I pull that off? Because it it looks like a lot of stress. It looks like a lot of stress, and but it looks it's so artistic at the same time. And and I'm sure, you know, us as an actr as actors, when we look at the end results, we we get to to either be proud of what we did or to say, oh damn, I really messed that one up. But we always are looking forward to the end results and to see what the whole product looks like. So I can only imagine as a director what that would feel at the end when you see all the pieces come together and and then you created that. You you did it. I don't know. I I I'm I'm interested in that. And I'm interested in maybe one day.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

It's an interesting feeling. Oh, that's for sure. It's um I don't know. I I I mean, Marty and I, we I don't think we've ever really gotten a film to a point where we're like, yeah, good, we're done. It's always just kind of like escaped at some point from our, you know, it was like, well, we've got the lines coming up, we got this, we got other, you know, we've entered into film festivals, but it's gotta be finished. So, you know, um I I I think that and I I've heard this from most people who make direct films, especially most directors, especially on their early films, they just hate their work. They they they shoot it and then they put it all together and they go, I hate this. And then but but then the hate kind of goes away and they they start massaging the the work and putting the music in and putting the dial, and then it's suddenly it's like, okay, I can live with this, and then you know, then then when people start to see it and give you feedback, you go, Oh, okay, I kind of maybe I actually like the movie, you know. Um, but I've I've read especially from like online from a lot of filmmakers, they say, Yeah, yeah, that's pretty it's really common to kind of hate your first few films. So like to get that first the even even now there are directors are like, Yeah, once I always hate the first cut. The first cut, I always absolutely hate it. And then we go and we fix it and it's fine.

SPEAKER_04 21:51

Wow, yeah, it's weird.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:54

What a process. But I'm I'm I'm very intrigued. I would like to try it out. And see if if I would like it or not. Um, producing is also, you know, it it looks like it looks like not, I wouldn't say fun, because I've also seen how much work producers put in and all the stress they go through and a lot of drama, it feels like. Um yeah, but if things work out okay, you know, financially, that that's that's where you want to be as the as a producer. And so um maybe I'm interested in that area for the wrong reasons, but but you know, artistically would be the director part. I would love to try that.

SPEAKER_00 22:42

I don't know. Yeah, at some point, you know, some point that it's at some point the entire part of the point of the process is to make money.

SPEAKER_02 22:48

Of course.

SPEAKER_00 22:49

You know, it isn't it is a you know monetarily driven industry, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:52

You know, business, right? Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

Do you um uh so I always ask this question? So do you like uh getting feedback from directors when you're working on set? And if so, is there like specific feedback that you've gotten that you found particularly helpful or that you remember over the years?

SPEAKER_04 23:14

I do like getting feedback. Um I it's funny, I I've I had never worked with a director who didn't give me feedback uh until the last film that I worked on in LA um about a year ago. I think it was about a year ago. And um he was very good director, but he was always so focused to feel like that he I would we would end the scene and then I wouldn't hear anything back, and I wouldn't hear, and so I started doubting myself. I started thinking maybe I'm not doing it, maybe he's just like, oh my god, all right, we're just done with this scene, let's move on, you know? And and so there was another director there who was more like a like a second unit director, but sometimes uh if he would take over, um depending on who was doing what that day. Uh he wasn't really an AD, but he was there also directing. Um, I don't know what his title was, but I asked him because he used to give me a lot of a lot of feedback. And sometimes it was a little funny because I'd be doing my scene and and and then I could see him from the corner of my eye as I'm doing my thing, he's sitting in the corner going, you know, just nodding his head. And I'm thinking, okay, now that would kind of distract me a little bit, but at least I was getting some feedback. And so I did ask him, I said, what's going on with Paul? Paul is a director that I was not, you know, not sure if I was doing a good job or not. And he said, No, he said, if he's not telling you anything, that means you're nailing it, you're doing exactly the way he wants you to. And and at first, because we had um some scenes that were very hard for me, and he said, you know, I'm gonna go into your psyche because he's got a degree in psychology. And he said, I'm gonna go into your psyche and I'm gonna push you and and I'm gonna take you in really dark places for this role um so you can perform. And but I took my way, I took myself there anyways. Um, and I and so he didn't really talk to me as much as I thought he would. So I didn't, I wasn't sure if I was doing a good job or not, but apparently, apparently, no words was good, you know, no news was good news at the time. So but yeah, and it was one that was one of my roles that I had always wanted to play because she was a um, she was a psychopath, my character. She was very evil in a way, um, but very playful. She liked to play with people's minds, and she liked to get the best out of people, and um she, you know, she she was a sociopath too, didn't care. Very dark. And um, but she was the playful kind, like almost like um like you would think, have you seen? I'm sure you've seen Joker with Phoenix, uh with Hawking Phoenix. It was kind of at that level where you know it's like this playful but bad person kind of thing, but then you kind of understand why they feel like that, and so it was a really fun, it really hard, but really fun character.

SPEAKER_00 26:35

I love it. Even when crazy are always fun to play. I remember when I was in high school drama, my or drama teacher told us that. I thought, you know, I hadn't really played anything like that yet. And I thought, oh, that's yeah, whatever. And then I got a crazy person's role, and I was like, oh, okay, because there aren't a lot of wrong choices, like as long as you're playing crazy, you can play crazy a bunch of different ways, right? So just find your find your volume and your tone knobs and turn it the way you want it, and then go for it, right? And there's it's a lot more freeing than having to nail a you know, well, I need to laugh here, I have gotta have this specific reaction on this line, and so on. You know, it's uh much freer to me, I thought.

SPEAKER_04 27:16

Well, and it's funny because um this particular director that I was working with, he wanted things specifically, and there were certain lines that out that I would laugh because you know, that that little evil laugh, and he would come back to me and say, Okay, I know we're supposed to laugh here. It says on the script to laugh, but I don't want you to laugh. I want you to actually be be very serious here. And then, and then on this one, I want you to touch her hair, and then on this one, I want you to lean back, and then on these on this line, I want you to lean forward. So it was that was the hard part. So I only not only did I have to tap into my emotions into other dark areas that I didn't even know I had to be able to play this character, but then I had I had specific instructions on what what what my mannerisms, how he wanted me to play this character.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

So he's really had an idea of your physicality in mind.

SPEAKER_04 28:11

Yes, yes. And so he wanted her to be a psycho, but not the the loud kind. It was more of a you know, I don't know what to call it, but she like a simmering, rather than a few years. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

Yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:26

Okay, yeah, it was a lot of fun. I can't wait to see it. I haven't seen that film either. It's uh it's in they're working on their distribution, and so hopefully in the next few months we can have something. Oops, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

Yes, uh well, that'll mean you'll probably be in a couple of films next year that are being distributed and out that you can point people to.

SPEAKER_04 28:44

Yeah, yeah, right. Nice, yeah, yeah, that'd be awesome.

SPEAKER_03 28:50

I know one oh go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 28:52

Oh, I was just gonna say it's just it's it's fun to know that you can push yourself to that level of your psyche and and go into those dark places and play this evil person and then do the comedy thing like in I did in your in your film. And and I honestly I find comedy a lot harder than than to do like the sinister.

SPEAKER_00 29:17

I think uh I think it's the hardest art form. I think it if you if you don't have comic timing, it's over. If you don't have timing, you're never gonna you're never gonna be able to play comedy. You have to have innate timing. You know, you drama you can kind of teach people, but you can't teach timing in comedy. You can't you can't teach but um boom. That's not you can't teach that. You either have that or you don't. You know, and so I that's why I think it's easier for comedic actors to go into drama than it is for drama dramatic actors to go into comedy. Um that would be my my personal opinion of that. You see, I mean like Tom Hanks is a perfect example, you know. Supposedly all the way to saving Private Ryan.

SPEAKER_03 29:57

I was gonna say, uh, we've had the luxury on our sets to do a lot of rehearsal ahead of time. So you'll get a lot of the uh notes from Cliff or myself ahead of time. So when we're actually rolling, I tend to roll to fall into that. I'm not saying anything unless I see something. It's kind of like if you don't hear anything at this point, you I've already told you everything that you need to know. But I know on a lot of sets you don't get the luxury of the rehearsal, so you're learning what the director wants right there as you're shooting it. You might get one run through before they call action.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

Yeah, yeah, with the yeah, with the number of setups that we run, it's usually uh okay, set the cameras up, set the lights up, and the actors are usually in front of that stuff, or in you know, in the middle of it, running lines, and we're giving feedback while everything's being set up. So, like Marty said, you get to the shoot and it's like, okay, perfect, let's move on, or let's do another one for security, and okay, yeah, that's great, let's move on. You know, and maybe try this.

SPEAKER_03 30:55

Like a good example was when we were shooting the scene with the angry customer, talking about, you know, you're supposed to hold this book for me, and you know, and Carol hadn't done any rehearsals with us, so she was kind of like, Am I doing this right? Every now and then be like, Oh, yeah, that's right, yeah, keep going, keep going. You know, I need to get in the habit of saying, Okay, if you don't hear from me, you're doing great. And actually, so at least I'm giving that you know, note. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:23

We're like children, we do something, we're looking at the director. Did I do right? Did I do it?

SPEAKER_03 31:28

More, do more. I don't want to interrupt you. Do more.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

Yeah, I've I've learned over the last two films to you know, hey, that's great, or you know, excellent, you know, something at least to say, you know, I'm we are happy. Yeah, we're happy. Let's move on. Um, you know, you did that right. Um, do you have uh I like to ask this question, it's one of my favorite questions. Um, do you have a favorite film that's based on music that isn't not necessarily like a musical, but a movie that's based on music or about music?

SPEAKER_04 31:59

Oh, I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00 32:01

Okay, you know, like La Bamba would be like you know or that that thing you do, or this is gonna be probably very cliche.

SPEAKER_04 32:10

Uh, but Selena, I love Selena. Yeah, you know, it's one of those movies I've seen a million times, and I probably rehear, you know, I probably talk, you know, when you're talking with the actors and you're just repeating every line. I probably know every single line in there, and then the songs, you know. I grew up with um all of her songs, so it's just uh it's just an amazing movie. I'll watch that one a million times. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

Yeah, that's the one that launched Jennifer's career. That was uh big one. She did a great job in it too. I mean, that was that was early on when she really uh was given 100%, was really killing it.

SPEAKER_04 32:47

I remember when they were doing the auditions for that because I was in Tucson and I was uh into I was doing theater and doing stuff like that, and then we went into a workshop. I don't remember, I was at Pima College, and we were doing some sort of workshop. And the guy who was giving the workshop, which I don't remember his name, it was a million years ago, he um he looked at me and he said, Oh, you know what? We're doing they're doing Selena auditions. Um, and he knew somebody who was in the production, and he said, I think you should audition. So I got his information and I was so excited to audition for Selena. But then before I could even make it to the audition or anything, that's when they said, Okay, they had already auditioned hundreds of girls. Um, they were still auditioning, and then they finally cut it off and they said, No, we're just gonna hire somebody, and we didn't know who I was at the time, but um, yeah, I I didn't get to audition, but I was kind of trying to get my way up there. Imagine that would have been awesome, yeah, right?

SPEAKER_00 33:54

Would be on this podcast right now. That's shit. Um that's uh yeah, that's amazing, and it's it's been so long that uh I mean that the woman that killed her is gonna get out of jail soon.

SPEAKER_04 34:07

Oh, yeah, I saw that.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

I think they're doing 30 years, yeah. Yeah, it's been almost 30 years. Whoa, I don't think she's gonna survive on the outside, you know. I think somebody's gonna get her.

SPEAKER_04 34:19

You think so? You think that's a lot of Selena?

SPEAKER_00 34:22

There's a lot of Selena fans out there, man.

SPEAKER_04 34:26

And and I know I think they're doing a show because I saw something. Oh, really? Yeah, I saw something, I don't remember where, but it popped up in my feed somewhere, and they were interviewing her. Um, and she was talking about the truth that she said that she was finally now that she's coming out of uh prison, that she was gonna talk about the truth, whatever the truth was. And so I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

I don't know, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

Interesting. Well, that was a terrible thing that happened to that young girl. Shouldn't I thought uh I remember her being very big in when I was you know around that time and being a big deal that she was killed.

SPEAKER_04 35:03

So it's and it's amazing how she still there's still, you know, I auditioned. I also actually did audition for this. Um, it was on was it Netflix? Uh might it might have been Hulu, I don't know, but they did uh a show recently, a couple years ago, um, based on her life as well. And it was the series, it was a serious show, and I auditioned for that one as well. Um obviously I didn't get it. Again, you wouldn't be here if you did. Yeah, that was really good too. Um, but not nothing replaces the movie. The movie was really good. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 35:37

Yeah, movie. I I thought they did a I I I remember the the the fans in the community really thinking, you know, you got it right. Like it you really nailed it. Um uh I I found it interesting too that she, you know, uh Latino were raised in Texas, right? And when she gets big and goes back to Mexico, that they kind of give her shit for the way she talks she talks Spanish, you know, that she had to she had to kind of take lessons and kind of you know beef that up and all that. I thought that was very interesting the way she had to straddle these two. She you know she was about to break into the American market. If you remember, she was just about to get big in the English singing American market. She'd been starting to dominate the that mother market, but just on her way up to that boom to break, it was just close, maybe another year, yeah, and she'd she'd have been that big star.

SPEAKER_04 36:26

And a lot of us, even though you know the Mexican community back then were giving her a hard time about not speaking Spanish very well, there were still a big chunk of us that didn't even know she spoke English. So when the music in English came out, we were like, oh my gosh, she learned English really fast.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 36:48

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:50

Well, that's a good movie, that's a good choice. It's a good one.

SPEAKER_04 36:53

Yeah, that's one of my favorites. Yeah. Uh but in musicals, it but you know, I'm a big musical, I love musicals, and um, you know, uh recently I went to see, I got some tickets from work, and I went to see a Broadway musical. I'd never seen a Broadway musical before. Um Back to the Future.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

The the Oh my god, what was that like?

SPEAKER_04 37:17

It was mind-blowing, it was the best. I never seen anything like that. The acting was great, obviously. And but it had special effects. Like they had like the car, the DeLorean, they had it where it was floating and it was moving, and they made it look like it was fine, and the sparks, and it was uh it was out of this world. I recommend it. Whoever you ever have a chance to go see it, it's they did an outstanding job. I don't know how they did half the stuff they did, all the the set changes that were so quick, and it were it was it was beautiful, it was perfect. I I loved it absolutely. So back to the future. Wow, yeah, back to the future. You'd never think that would be a musical.

SPEAKER_00 38:00

No, maybe no, never. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 38:04

And and you know, the the comedy was perfect, and everything was good, everything was really good.

SPEAKER_00 38:09

It was beautiful. Did it just cover the first movie?

SPEAKER_04 38:12

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:13

Okay, interesting.

SPEAKER_04 38:14

Yeah, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

Yeah, because then you know, then when that one goes, you can go, hey, we're gonna do back to the future too as a musical.

SPEAKER_04 38:20

That magic.

SPEAKER_00 38:20

And then hey, we're gonna do three, and then you can watch the trilogy over a weekend or something, right? Skip through New York City and see them all one and two months.

SPEAKER_04 38:28

Yeah, yeah, it was amazing.

SPEAKER_03 38:33

Three would be a lot more Z Z top oriented, wouldn't it? Well, I'm sure we're not the only people to think of the idea of the musical of part two and three, so oh yeah, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_04 38:46

That was my first thought too, yeah. Imagine.

SPEAKER_03 38:52

So is there a dream role that you've been pursuing other than trying to get into one of these Selena movies?

SPEAKER_04 39:00

Um you know, I think I could say that I've done the one that I wanted to do, which was the the the villain of the story, the psychopath, you know. Um that was a lot of fun. I've always wanted to try something like that. Because I always get the the the opposite, the opposite of the of the role. And and so that was that was I think that was if I could do it again, uh imagine doing a bigger role for Hollywood or something like that. That's like the sinister sociopath, that would be amazing. But I'm also I I I also want to do an action film. I I want to do, you know, I want to be the badass of the story or even the villain. I don't care, but I want guns and and and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 39:50

So and and um actually some of my favorite action movies are the female driven ones. They're they're so oh yeah, that's the um uh I'm having trouble thinking of any right now, but uh Hannah comes to mind about the young girl. The young girl whose uh fathers leaves her out in the wilderness by herself. Have you seen that one? And she's I think I have fantastic. It's really Cyrus Ronin's in it. Yeah, I like those, I like those female-driven ones, uh, just because I think it it turns the turns the whole thing, the whole action genre upside down on its head.

SPEAKER_04 40:22

Yeah, which is a cool thing. My favorite right now that I can watch over and over is um The Old Guard with Charlize Theron. I love Charlie's Theron, and they do an outstanding job in that movie, and they're doing another one. I would love to get on that movie. Come on, come on, manager.

SPEAKER_00 40:40

Um Gunpowder Milkshake. Uh, did you see Gunpowder Milkshake? No, no, it's as really is on Netflix, and it's uh it's get the girl, one of the the girls who's plays the lead in um oh, I can't believe I'm flanking her name, but she's in um Scott Pilgrim versus the World. Um Love Interest in Scott Pilgrim vs. the world. I can't remember her name, but she's uh yeah, she's a badass in the movie. It's really, really good. Gunpowder Milkshake's definitely worth it.

SPEAKER_04 41:11

Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna watch it now.

SPEAKER_00 41:14

You'll like that one.

SPEAKER_03 41:15

Of course, Furiosa was the Furiosa.

SPEAKER_04 41:18

I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_03 41:20

Yeah, that's the thing is I don't think any of us went to go see it. I haven't seen it yet either. Here it's good, but really I'm I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 41:27

I love the first one. It had Charlie's Theron on the first one. Yeah, and so I I don't know. I I have mixed feelings about that one, but I might watch it when it comes out on on streaming or something.

SPEAKER_00 41:40

Oh, Lafemme Nikita, you know, underworld. Yeah, I've seen oh yeah, I'll do one of my favorites. Uh there's some good ones in there. Some really good ones. I like I like like I said, I like that genre, especially. It's really fantastic. It looks like fun.

SPEAKER_04 41:53

Imagine being in one of the Avengers.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

I mean it's not the kind of movie I would want to make, honestly. Um yeah. Because it's it's really repetitive to do that. Like you mean you gotta do these stunts over and over and over again, and you gotta get these exact angles, and you gotta get these exact timings, and you know, it's uh I mean it's it's intricate and it's interesting, but at the same time, I it's just kind of probably not the type of movie I really want to make. You know what I mean? Like I I mean, maybe once, but just to say I've done it and that type of thing, but I I don't know. It's not really it's just it's not really the kind of movie I want to make. Yeah, it's a different way of making a movie. It's like making a sci-fi movie with a bunch of green screens and you know, tennis balls and on sticks and shit like that, where you're like, okay, this is a totally different type of filmmaking than what I'm you know normally doing.

SPEAKER_03 42:44

So yeah, we we did low budget semi-action at one point for one movie, but everything else has been just people standing around talking to each other has been our movies. So yeah, hopefully we'll go impact, punch that up a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 42:58

Yeah, we've got a little better on people. We've pulled some stunts off and done a few other things in in our last couple movies that we you know we've tried to stretch ourselves a bit, you know.

SPEAKER_03 43:09

Yeah, where crash pads uh remember when Eric uh didn't make the crash pad and his knee hit the ground that one time during one of the mini slaps in Revenge of Zoey. But he was a trooper and he got right back up and fit.

SPEAKER_02 43:23

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 43:24

Oh, that's right. He did do that, didn't he?

SPEAKER_03 43:27

We have had a few little lumps and bruises along the way.

SPEAKER_00 43:33

The stunt man who injured himself.

SPEAKER_04 43:37

Yeah, I don't think I've ever gotten injured or anything in any of the films. I've gotten I've been, you know, the the whole is too cold or it's too hot or whatever, but never, never an injury.

SPEAKER_03 43:52

Well that's good.

SPEAKER_04 43:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:56

So outside of film, what's another creative outlet? That keeps you busy.

SPEAKER_04 44:02

A creative outlet.

SPEAKER_03 44:05

Is there like any kind of like hobbies that you take up a lot of your time other than you know acting or pursuing making movies?

SPEAKER_04 44:12

You know, I need to pick up on stuff. I was thinking about picking up guitar and and doing guitar and you knowadays you can learn everything on YouTube.

SPEAKER_02 44:22

Sure, true. A lot of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:24

I would love to get myself back into singing. I used to sing the before my acting, before I started getting into acting, singing was my love. I I grew up telling everybody I was gonna be a famous singer and I was gonna make it big. And and so I did a lot of choirs and I let I did some bands and performings and stuff like that. And then I got into acting and I kind of let go of the singing part, and I just focused more on the acting.

SPEAKER_03 44:50

But you were you're trying to get into those musical-related projects as well.

SPEAKER_04 44:54

Yeah, see, yeah, that would be amazing, yeah. That'd be amazing. So, but yeah, my voice is not a singing voice right now. I have not done any of that. It is not, you know, and I sing up sing by myself in the shower or whatever, but no, I I would need to take classes all over again and retrain my voice, right? But yeah, that would be amazing if I could get back into that. But right now it's just uh takes all my time as the kids and the job, you know. And then we moved up here. I haven't um I haven't really auditioned for anything um because I told my manager that I didn't know if I was gonna have time for. And um there was no traveling allowed at first. Um, and but now they're being more flexible. So I think I can finally start doing a little bit of maybe some auditions or some local um stuff here.

SPEAKER_00 45:50

Um I've heard I've heard a lot of stuff gets shot in Ohio.

SPEAKER_04 45:53

Um yeah, that's what I heard too.

SPEAKER_00 45:55

Yeah, Pennsylvania Pennsylvania's right next door, and then New York's you know, even closer. Um Jersey and New York are right there. So you're in a pretty good area for all that, and Chicago's to your to your other side on your other side.

SPEAKER_03 46:06

So Ohio is where we won the best feature because that's where the original festival is. Really? It's true, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:15

Uh one of the one of an another actor in Tucson moved here at the same time I did, and we ended up within 30 to 45 minutes away from each other without knowing. Um, I he posted a picture and he said something about Ohio, and I was like, What are you doing in Ohio? He said, I moved here. I'm like, I just moved here too. So how what are the chances to people from Tucson end up moving up here around the same time? It's crazy. So, but he's a little bit more involved with acting right now, and he's there everybody says that there's a lot of a lot of work over here. I guess I should start jumping into it. I have a film that um that uh that we're working on that it's not a hundred percent official yet. We're still working on things, but it's a it's it's it's an action film and it's a futuristic, yeah, very futuristic. Is um can't really say a whole lot about it, but we're working on it. And and hopefully within the next, I don't know, they said three months, but you know, it could be six. Hopefully within the next three to six months we can lock something in and see if we can. Yeah, it's in the early stages.

SPEAKER_00 47:25

In the budgeting, pre-production budgeting stages, that's yeah, yeah. So been there many times. Going back there very soon.

SPEAKER_04 47:34

I was gonna say it could be a year, two years, five years, who knows? You never know. They, you know, the the the producer obviously he says three, three, three months. I was like, Yeah, I know how that works. I know what three months are like in this in this industry because they don't have sometimes it takes years and years to get a film made.

SPEAKER_00 47:53

I I I think Marty and I, we like to do it about one about every two to three years. If we can if we can knock one out about every two to three years, we're pretty happy.

SPEAKER_02 48:01

If we could have a good pace, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:04

These last ones, this last couple have been uh it's it's either some unintentional roadblock or covet for fuck's sake. Yeah, our mileage, yeah, you know, or something else that's you know kept us from keeping it.

SPEAKER_03 48:15

You know, if it wasn't for COVID, Gia wouldn't be in the movie. That's true. That's very true. The other actress wouldn't have broken her leg because it would have been a year before. So it's just weird how it all kind of works out in a way.

SPEAKER_04 48:27

It it is weird. It is weird. Life is funny.

SPEAKER_00 48:32

Gia, do you have anything that you want to plug? You want to talk about anything you're working on, or other than other than this uh this upcoming action sci-fi futuristic thing you just just that.

SPEAKER_04 48:42

Um you know, just crossing fingers because I would be the lead on that one. And yeah, and it's like she's like the hero of the story, and very futuristic. It's it's uh very you know, there's like aliens and stuff like that, and a lot of green, a lot of green screen, a lot of yeah, and so I'm excited because I've never done anything like that. And um, and I'm also there's another girl that I know um that she lives in Florida, and we're friends, and it's somehow she also ended up getting cast, if you want to call it that, but she's being looked at for my the my character has uh like it's not a sidekick, but it's like a companion, an AI companion.

SPEAKER_02 49:29

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 49:30

And um, and it's almost have you seen Halo and Halo's like a companion and stuff like that, and it's an AI, it's kind of like that, and she's being looked at for that role. So, and I would love to work with her. Um, we're friends, and we've been friends for a few years, and somehow she ended up getting involved in the same project without I didn't, you know, we didn't have anything to do with it, it just happened like that. So, and it would be amazing, it would be really good. So I'm really looking forward to that, and and hopefully we can hear some good news soon and and start shooting.

SPEAKER_00 50:03

Yeah, well, I wish you the best of luck. I hope the money comes through, and and I hope you're a big star because to be honest, it just helps our films um when we go, yeah, you just need to look at her past work, she was great in our films.

SPEAKER_02 50:15

Yeah, that'd be great, that'd be amazing.

SPEAKER_03 50:20

Did you have any favorite moments on not just on our sets, but in just on sets in general?

SPEAKER_04 50:27

Oh gosh, there's a lot of favorite moments.

SPEAKER_03 50:29

Yeah, that's a big question.

SPEAKER_04 50:32

Yeah, there's oh my gosh, there's a lot of favorite moments, and you know that one one of the things that I'm gonna take it a little bit in a different direction, but one of the things that were not my favorite back when I first started was that I used to get very method into the character, and so if the character had a lot of drama and traumas that I needed to dig from, it would take me three days to get out of this character. I would yeah, once yeah, once the production was over, I would go home and I'd be in deep depression for like three days. And um there was a film that I was working on called La Mot La Motochora. It was it's a it's a short uh in and we we actually filmed it in Bisbee. And um it was one night that I just couldn't get into the character, and and I talked to um I talked to Eric, uh, who's in your films, and he spoke to me for about an hour on the phone. This was in the middle of the night, because I was really struggling uh that night, and I couldn't get into it. So it was the opposite, I couldn't get into it. And he started giving me some strategies on how to get into the character, but then he also started talking to me about how because I told him, you know, last time I got this deep into a character, it takes me three days to get out. And so he started giving me kind of like pointers on how to get in and also get out of character before you leave set, so that you're not struggling with that when you go home. So I think that's that's been a very important conversation that I had during set. I was, you know, we were filming, we're in the middle of filming this film, and and it's probably one of my favorites because it is still to this point helping me so much. The last film that I did where she's a sociopath. Imagine if I would have been where I was.

SPEAKER_00 52:42

You can't get out of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:43

Yeah, it's not good for you. And and so I was able to be on set and turn it on moments before getting into the the scene and then turn it off when I was done with the scene so that I can be okay. In you know, yeah, you're rehearsaling in your head or whatever, but you're leaving kind of your emotions are a little bit more tamed so that you're not all the time um getting getting being in this really crazy mode. Right. So um I I think that's probably one of my favorite moments where Eric talked to me and he taught me a lot that night. And and and it's helping me still now. That was years ago. So it's helping me a lot.

SPEAKER_00 53:28

So Eric's a helpful dude. That's that's that's that's part of his makeup.

SPEAKER_04 53:33

So if he's listening, thank you, Eric. Eric Schumacher, Schumacher, Schumacher. Yeah, but that was a good memory. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 53:47

Nice.

SPEAKER_04 53:48

What about you? What are your favorite moments?

SPEAKER_00 53:54

Jesus, I have too many. I mean, I I mean I've made I mean I've made a bunch of films now at this point.

SPEAKER_03 53:58

I I mean you know a lot of my favorite moments are when we all look at each other and realize we finished. Yeah, that's all that after all that's like we did it, we got to the end, but there's usually something fun that happens every day if you're lucky up in a good moment.

SPEAKER_00 54:14

Yeah, my I think the the moment on revenge where we pulled off the the crash pad with Bradford was probably one of my favorite. Speaking of stunts, yeah. Where it was because it was really the kind of the first real stunt we've ever done. It involved, you know, him working with another actor, and we didn't have to shoot it more than once. It it went off without a hitch, and it was just it was it was kind of perfect. So I you know, um I still think finally back on that it's oh god, we had you know, so lucky and everything worked out so perfectly, and we just moved on and acted like nothing had happened, and it was great, yeah. Um shooting in the shooting in the bar. I mean, there's a but you know, I I like you know, I if if you gave me a choice and said, look, you just want to work, um, you know, if you just want to be a director and go to a set and then direct, and then as soon as it's done, go to another set and direct another movie, and then so on with like a week in between, I'd do that for the rest of my life. You know, I'd take a take a week off, show up at another set, shoot another movie. I would do that, you know, over and over and over again. I I love that more than that. I love being on set, I love working with actors, I love working with crews, all that stuff. It's my that's that's where I'm the happiest. That's right ever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:27

So you could you create a little family for the moment that you're on set, and then you all get divorced when the movie's done because you don't see each other.

SPEAKER_00 55:36

Well, we tend to we tend to work with you know, these last three pictures, we've worked with a lot of the same people, so you're very close to. I mean, we have an actress that worked with us. We we cast her in her first in our first film when she was 13. Oh wow, and she's got a baby and she's a doctor now. So um, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:55

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 55:58

Watching her grow, it's like you're watching literally, it was yeah, it's fucking wild. She she came down, um, she got engaged to her husband and came down to have her bridal shower and shot the movie while she was down to Tucson to have her bridal shower. She kind of made a whole thing out of it so she could come down and be available to shoot. Wow. Um, she's as committed to being these pictures as we are. It's really pretty great. But yeah, so I mean, it you're right. It's like it does kind of break up, but weirdly, this um we tend to have this circle of people that we continue to sort of talk to and do and you work, and and um it was like a little family.

SPEAKER_04 56:34

That's the great thing about Tucson. It's the community there, the the film community is you just keep working with the same people, and and it's amazing. You know, that's what I did for a few years. Yeah, and but I I would love to get cast in a series also, because imagine something that goes on for season after season. Oh god, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:57

And you just create this family, this 10 years on the big bang theory or Fraser or something like that. Yeah, I can't, I can't, honestly. Then it would really be like losing a family where you're just like, well shit, now what am I gonna do?

SPEAKER_02 57:10

Yeah, yeah, that's that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 57:15

Well, Gia, thanks so much for coming on.

SPEAKER_04 57:17

Uh thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 57:19

We really appreciate it. It's good to see you. You look great. Thank you. Look happy in Ohio. So I do like it here.

SPEAKER_04 57:25

I do like it here. It's if you know, people tell me, Oh, you moved to Ohio, but no, listen, I I moved to a very nice area of Ohio, and um we have waterfalls two miles away from here, and I'm out in the country, you know. You see my background is all green, and we're on five five acres of land, and we have a river in the backyard that runs all the way into the the big lake. So it's beach, yeah. It's there's a lot to do here too. I mean, I obviously I love to see.

SPEAKER_00 57:56

If you're an outdoor person, that that that there is really yeah, yeah, it's gorgeous.

SPEAKER_04 58:02

I I love it. I'm I'm I'm having a lot of fun here and and I'm enjoying it a lot. So I think it was a very good move for us to move up here. It was a crazy last-minute move. I was actually in the process with Tucson PD um to be an investigator with them when I got a call for for this job, and and so we've made a mis uh decision to move up here instead. And I dropped out of the Tucson PD.

SPEAKER_00 58:26

Wow. My dad worked for my dad worked for the Tucson PD for 14 years. He was a um programmer.

SPEAKER_02 58:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:34

He set up their 911 system. Um all that type of stuff. He was the he wrote the code that actually pulled the address back and displayed it to the dispatcher when they called, that type of thing, you know. Um they knew it, so they immediately knew where the caller was calling from, things like that. He's been he's been in what do they call that? The public sector, public safety sector, I guess is what they call it. But he's been in that for his entire career. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. Yeah, he did a he did a lot of interesting work. So yeah. But anyway, enough about him. Back to you. Uh again, thanks so much for coming on. And um, appreciate it. Marty, do you have anything else before we jump out?

SPEAKER_03 59:12

Just glad you got to join us. Yeah. I know it took us a couple of months to find a date, but we finally found one.

SPEAKER_04 59:18

I know, I know. It's my my job, my my work schedule fluctuates. It doesn't fluctuate a lot now. I was contracting for a while, so that was crazy. But now that I have I work for the same, I work for for a family, and and so it's a little bit more consistent, but every once in a while they throw us a curveball. So um, like I was supposed to work today, and then last night I found out I'm off. So it worked out. It worked out perfect. Yeah. So thank you. I appreciate it. Keep me posted with anything else you got going on.

SPEAKER_00 59:49

And yeah, we may we may actually um may actually have you back on as a guest for the talking portion. Um where um we give you a movie to watch, you give us a movie to watch.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:00

Wow, nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:01

And then and then all three of us get together and we talk about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:05

I love it. That's a good idea.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:07

Yeah, it might be kind of fun, right? So we'll we'll maybe it'll probably be you know three, three, six months from now, something like that. We'll we'll probably get back in touch with you and and um try to do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:14

Yeah, that'd be great. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:17

Yeah, well, Jill, it's great to see you. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:19

Nice seeing you too. Thank you. Have a good night.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:22

Good to see you.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:23

All right, bye.