Talking Pondo: I'm Gonna Git You Sucka and Enter The Dragon with Robert Linden

 In this episode, first time guest Robert Linden joins the podcast. He brings along the movie I'm Gonna Git You Sucka. Marty and Clif give Robert the movie Enter The Dragon to watch.

Join us for a high-kick double feature that pairs martial arts legends with razor-sharp parody: Enter the Dragon (1973) and I’m Gonna Git You Sucka (1988).

The episode breaks down why Enter the Dragon remains the gold standard of martial arts cinema, from Bruce Lee’s unmatched screen presence, fight choreography, and the movie’s lasting impact on action cinema.

Then the crew pivots into full satire mode with Keenan Ivory Wayans' I’m Gonna Git You Sucka, a fearless, R-rated send-up of 1970s blaxploitation. With a stacked cast including Isaac Hayes, Jim Brown, Chris Rock, John Witherspoon and more, the film is unpacked as both a loving homage and a brutally funny critique of the genre’s excesses.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Nunchucks and shit you couldn't get your hands on.

SPEAKER_03 0:03

It's funny you bring that up because you remember that TV show The Master with Lee Van Cleef. Yes. The first episode of it, directed by the same guy who directed Enter the Dragon.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

Robert Klaus is hilarious. And that's Shokus, it's and that's Shokusumi's.

SPEAKER_03 0:23

And then Blinkin, you'll miss Jackie Chan and Enter the Dragon. I see him every time now because Bruce grabs his hair, pulls his head back, and you get that close up to Bruce's face while he like snaps his neck off camera, but it's like, hey.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

Is that um is that Samu in the first fight scene? Yes, I believe so. That's Sam that's Samo Hung in the first fight scene, right? Because I'm I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 0:48

Welcome to season three of Talking Pondo. Talking Pondo is a podcast where Cliff and Marty give each other a film to watch and talk about them in detail. Some episodes will include a special guest.

SPEAKER_03 1:07

Williams drinks his juice in the hood will not be seen this week, so we may bring you the following gratitude. Yeah, I came up with that at the last second, guys, but I was like, oh sure, I don't have my joke ready.

SPEAKER_00 1:21

So there can't always be bangers, right? Sometimes you just gotta, you know, sometimes you get a little Bomo, a little Johnny Carson there, you know. Yeah. Well, welcome back, listeners. We got uh two more movies. We're talking Pondo. I'm Cliff. I'm Marty. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

We got a guest today. A guest this week. Uh we're bringing on uh Robert Linden for the first time. You know him from many things. Uh The Z, Crewing Up, Revenge of Zoe. Wait a minute, those are the credits that probably I know, but you know him probably the best as Jean from Jean the Alien interviews, that web show that we put out back in the day, and that will hopefully be seeing the light of day again very soon, and among other new projects from Robert. But it's good to have you on the show, Robert. Hey, thank you. Thank you for having me. So, what movies did you bring us today?

SPEAKER_04 2:19

What movies did I bring you today?

SPEAKER_03 2:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:24

Um Enter the Dragon and I'm gonna get you sucker.

unknown 2:29

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_04 2:30

Looking forward to that.

SPEAKER_00 2:31

That's gonna be good. That's really gonna be good.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

Yes, yeah, we gave you a couple other movies to pick from, but I had a feeling it's gonna be Enter the Dragon because I've been keeping that to the side until we asked Robert on the show. Because I'm like, well, he's kind of the perfect person to have on to talk about this.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

So yeah, um, Kung Fu Joe is now one of my favorite characters of all time. Yeah, just throwing that out there. I was just like, dude, this guy's absolutely nailing the ridiculousness of this role, like to just a completely perfect degree.

SPEAKER_03 3:04

Watching that again, it really did make the early episode of Jahn make so much more sense to me. It's so deep. That movie years ago, but it's like, oh, this was the tone. This was the tone. Oh, yes, it will. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:19

No, Kung Fu Joe is always one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Oh, he's he was spectacular, especially when he gets shot. And he will we'll we'll get there, we'll get there.

SPEAKER_03 3:29

I'm gonna do some brief uh viewer mail first.

SPEAKER_00 3:31

Yeah, we got some viewer mail, great. Okay, real quick. But yeah, let's go through that viewer mail. Yes, I love getting the viewer mail.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

Yeah, they're both about that uh holiday episode we did last year with mixed nuts and mazes and monsters, you know. The two movies that everybody watches on Christmas, right? Yes, the talking figgy pondo. Was that like figgy pudding? Was that was that supposed to be? I think so. I guess if you have to explain the joke, it's not funny, right? Yeah, I guess so. So I mean, I guess this counts. Uh Dylan writes in. Dylan was on the episode, but he still writes in about the episode. And he says, now this is some high-quality discussion about some low quality features.

SPEAKER_00 4:17

So classic classic Dylan Schlender to write to comment on his own episode.

SPEAKER_03 4:22

I still say it's worth watching. And also, we got another comment on mazes and monsters from Ben Haslar, another one of the hosts of Reels of Justice, where he says it's a far out game. And you might lose your mind if you play mazes and monsters. If you can find us a module, please send us a copy. I can't. Oh, please.

SPEAKER_00 4:43

That would be great. I'd love to see some have some of those paper figures too, if you can send those our way. Unpainted, please. Unpainted, please. Yeah, we want to paint our own paper figures.

SPEAKER_03 4:52

So I guess that was viewer mail, viewer comments, but still keep sending them in and we'll keep reading them and responding to them.

SPEAKER_00 5:00

That's right. And it looks like um I'm it looks like it's possible, I think, since Dylan was on here, maybe reach out and get me, maybe have me prosecute all of me. Which should be fun. Yeah, we'll see how that goes. But anyways, onto our onto our content today. We have Enter the Dragon and I'm Gonna Get You Sucker. Which one do you guys want to start with?

SPEAKER_04 5:22

Oh, this is I personally I want to start with I'm gonna get you sucker.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Yeah, I think that's the right choice.

SPEAKER_04 5:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

All right, so uh I'm gonna get you sucker. Um let me see here. Let me let me give you the uh log line and the storyline for the for the folks listening. So uh I'm gonna get you sucker, 1988 rated R, Hour and 28 Minutes. Uh in this parody of black exploitation movies, a black hero wannabe reunites with former black heroes from the 70s to help him get revenge on Mr. Big. This is directed and written by Keenan Ivory Wayne, stars Keenan Ivory Wayans, uh, along with, again, just a ridiculously packed cast. This is another one of those movies where it's just talent everywhere. Um, storyline Jack Spade returns home from the army in his old ghetto neighborhood when his brother June bug dies from OG over gold. Jack declares war on Mr. Big, powerful crime lord. His army is led by John Slade, his childhood idol who used to fight bad guys in the 70s. Kind of a crappy storyline, but yeah, that's basically it.

SPEAKER_03 6:26

You know, I haven't seen this much boomer energy in a movie since we covered sneakers a few weeks back. You know, it's nice to see all the middle-aged men uh out there kicking ass again. You know, you don't see it too much in movies, but even if it is a parody, it still was fun to see. I remember renting this back in geez, it must have been 89. Yeah. It hit video and yeah, loved it ever since. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Yeah, we talked about this one in in school in in high school a lot because it was such a weird uh movie. It's um it's really, really funny. It's hilarious, and it's got that kind of that airplane type of comedy, but he but he goes and he takes it and makes it his own instead of kind of copying it, right? Like right, you know, like Top Secret is a kind of a copy of the comedy of Airplane, and then you get these these diminishing returns of hotshots. And I'm not saying those movies aren't funny, but they're not at the same level, and they just kind of keep becoming photocopies of that same kind of the same style of jokes. But Keenan takes it and and by putting black exploitation forefront of the films, I think he takes the comedy and makes it his own and turns uh takes a whole like right-hand turn and is just like, well, I'm gonna do my own shit, but it's gonna be kind of it'll echo that. Like, there's certain jokes where you're like, oh, that that's that'd be airplane, right? You like you could hear that, but then at the same time, he's doing so many other things. I mean, that fucking um the the the street Olympics or whatever that was with the fucking TVs and shit. It's like I had completely forgotten about that. I was like, holy shit, this thing just goes for it.

SPEAKER_04 8:01

Yes. Yeah, I want when the the the best part of that was the referee is like, I want all this shit clean, and they strip the car.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

All right, it's like nothing left. It's a new record, it's a new world record.

SPEAKER_04 8:17

Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 8:17

I like how they uh treat it real for long stretches, unlike airplane and top secret where it's gag, gag, gag, gag, gag. This stops and presents a story, and then it makes the funny extra funny when the silly kicks back in.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

You know, it feels much more top secret, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:35

Yeah, but but it also it kind of relates to you know the real life, you know, where you you you see this stuff like, oh man, you know, my someone stole my car or somebody took the wheels off my car, but now in the in the movie you're seeing it being parried parodied, and you're like, oh, okay, now it's funny that it happened to me.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

Yeah, yeah, no, totally. The the the fact that there's nothing but that steering wheel left, and he's just moving the steering wheel at the end of it is so good. And then you freaking five minutes into this movie, you get Clue Gulager as the cop, which I was just like, fucking Gulliger Gulager.

SPEAKER_03 9:13

He's only in the movie very briefly, but there he is. There he is. Yep. Also, John Witherspoon, barely in the movie, but there he is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:23

Yeah, the preacher. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 9:26

It's a it's a Nexus movie. Like, I mean, there's so many careers that are just getting started in this film from from fucking Mar Damon Mar, you know, Damon Wayans, you've got David Alan Greer, you've got you know, Keenan's very early into his career, you know, and then you've got some kind of the established people. You got the Jim Brown, you got Isaac Hayes, you got all I mean, it's just it's such a cast, man. It's ridiculously packed.

SPEAKER_04 9:52

Chris Rock, you know.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

Yeah, Chris, the the rib, the rib bit. My god, it's iconic.

SPEAKER_03 9:58

His his character has no reason to be in the movie. It's kind of like you're funny, we're gonna find something for you to do. You're gonna come in and just say, just give me one rib.

SPEAKER_04 10:07

Yeah, just give me one rib.

SPEAKER_03 10:09

This is also Robin Harris's first movie, blink and you'll miss. Yeah, I'm like, that's freaking Bay Bay's kids, man.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

Yeah, behind the bar. Yeah, behind the bar, yep. Yeah, it's that's what I'm saying. Everywhere you look, there's talent in this thing.

SPEAKER_04 10:21

Yeah, Keenan Harry Wayne's sister as the lounge singer.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

Oh, it's literally they say at one point that's the director's sister, and they just point the camera at Keenan and he just kind of looks to the side like, oh yeah. Like his mom, like his mom made him put her in the movie. It's hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 10:38

Yeah, I I found out Sean Wayne's is in that movie, also. Um yeah, the scene where Fly Guy comes out of prison, he's dressed, you know. Dude, I love that scene. He sean's in that scene. He's actually one of the people that are running after him.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

Right. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 10:57

Like if you if you look closely, you can see him.

SPEAKER_00 11:00

Interesting. That's funny.

SPEAKER_03 11:01

And so is Fishbone. The band Fishbone is part of that laughing at him when he gets out of the jail as well. With his uh goldfish in the shoes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

You know that bit where one of them walked where they I think it's when when Wayne Keenan is with Jim Brown and Isaac Hayes, and they're walking off, and suddenly there's a band behind him, you know, playing. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's that's like an airplane bit.

SPEAKER_04 11:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Like that's that feels like it, you know, you'd lift that right out of airplane and put it into this movie, right? So that's what I mean. Like, like there's these weird echoes to that. But at the same time, like you said, Marty, he's slowing it down, telling a story, working in his black floitation jokes and and and kind of kind of parodying all those those types of movies. Like at one point, they even have a a talk about how you know at the end when they're when they're monologuing with the bad guy, and he's going, What, what, I'm not, I'm not good enough to be in exploitation movies? Fucking so-and-so was in an exploitation movie, and so is so-and-so. You know, that was great. It was so good.

SPEAKER_04 12:00

Man, those bits are just just off the cuff, but they're just so just so great. You know, just like you were saying with the black the you know, I'm not good enough to be, you know, uh Shelly Winters, you know, oh Cleopatra Jones, you know.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 12:16

Exactly before Bill was even attacked.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

Yeah, I love it. About the only thing you didn't do is turn to the camera and talk to the camera and break the fourth wall.

SPEAKER_04 12:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 12:27

I feel like there was a couple of winks though, wasn't there?

SPEAKER_04 12:30

Yeah, there was there was a uh there was a moment where the fourth wall was broken, um, where they're they're going after Mr. Biggs' businesses, and then um a model comes running out and she turns around and says another model turned actress on the back of her shirt.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

Right, right. Yes. That's good. Um for me, this is easily one of the best of all the Wayans movies. Like if you put all the Wayans family's films together, and you know, I think this is easily one of the funnier, kind of more original ones. Like a scary movie's fine, but you start to get diminishing returns pretty quickly, and it's a kind of a it's kind of an easier type of comedy. This is a little bit harder, it's a little more subtle, right? To me, you know, he's doing a little bit more, he's really making an effort to kind of both give you a story and kind of give you a um a satirical message about what you've seen over the past. So it it's it's uh I really like that. Well, I'm watching this going, I haven't seen this in probably 15 years, but it again, it really holds up.

SPEAKER_04 13:36

It does to this day. A lot of people won't know what it what it is, but you know, when you when you introduce them, they'll like it.

SPEAKER_00 13:45

The overgold, yeah, the overgold won't make sense unless you were around in the 80s and 90s, and you know, you've got the flavor flaves where big clocks and all that kind of shit. You know, the overgold won't make sense, but I mean it will as a story device, but not as far as skewering the culture, right?

SPEAKER_04 14:01

Yeah, like what does that mean? Well, if you were around, then you would know everybody had to have a gold chain.

SPEAKER_03 14:10

But I felt like the whole I felt like the whole movie was kind of an indictment on gaudy fashion. Like, for God's sakes, just stop with the too many, it's too many chains, it's too much. And like, even when the dude gets out of prison and he's wearing his old 70s outfit and they're laughing at that, it's kind of like it's a subtle way of saying, just come on, just be stylish and get with it. You know, don't don't this is that looks terrible. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 14:38

It's almost like letting Huggy Bear get back onto the streets and try to take him over, right? Like you pull Huggy Bear out of mothballs, but he's still Huggy Bear from the Sarsky and Hut show, and he put him on the streets of Compton in the 80s and shit.

SPEAKER_03 14:54

You know, he looks modern by the end of the movie. He gets with Huggy Bear.

SPEAKER_04 15:01

He was good in that movie. Uh I know I loved his character as you know, the pimp and you know, in the uh the pimp pageant, he becomes pimp of the year with his little poem.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

I loved that so much. Bitch will have my money. That was so fucking disappointed. I never forgot from this movie. But why why were there a bunch of dudes in bikinis up there when he got his award? It was so weird. The Piperl's bikini competition. The bikini portion. That's nice. Uh we didn't so we didn't get to see the interview portion, but we got to see the the swimsuit competition. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 15:42

Yeah. Yeah, that's how it works. Yeah, I love quoting that that poem he, you know, he wrote. It's just every now and then I'll just I'll quote it and just say the whole thing. And people are like, what the hell are you you know, wondering like why did I just say that? I'm like, you need to watch I'm gonna get you sucker. That's why I said it.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

I love when he I love when he goes to the um the people's army and dude's married to a white woman with two blonde kids, and yeah, that kid gives that report on Abraham Lincoln and his fucking sister's like, preach, brother. I just could not stop fucking laughing at that kid. What happened to the army? And he said the brothers walked in with guns and they came out with jobs, yeah. Killed the movement.

SPEAKER_04 16:33

You know who the wife was, right? No, right? That's Jan from Brady Bunch.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Yeah. Oh, that's fantastic. They did a good job of hiding her. I didn't recognize her.

SPEAKER_04 16:44

Yeah, that's why they're playing the Brady Bunch music in the background.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

Oh, that's so good. Yeah, that's so good.

SPEAKER_04 16:53

Yeah, and I found that. I was like, oh, wait a minute, what? So yeah, they added her in there. She makes the best bean pie in all the land. Thanks.

SPEAKER_00 17:03

I'm I'm I'm already regular. Thanks. I appreciate it. Marty, did you check to see if Robert was selling no way products before you invited him onto the show? We're gonna keep that no way shit out of here.

SPEAKER_04 17:19

No way products. Oh god. I should probably look into starting to Shopify with that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

I think I think my my favorite part is how tough his mother is. And that restaurant fight where she gets into the fight with those two dudes and they just change to a white stunt man with a mustache to do the fighting, and it's so like it's so him obviously making fun of these, you know, these bad stunt doubles that I just couldn't help but laugh my ass off. Man, he's it's it's such a sharp, funny comedy. He's really poking fun at a lot of good stuff.

SPEAKER_03 17:56

Yes. You remember when Keenan was in the movies before he eventually was like, I'm gonna step behind the camera. But in the early days, it was like he was like the star of you know, all the way up through what was the one we were talking about before we got on, low down, dirty shame. Yeah, low down, dirty shame. And it was like, I'm gonna let the rest of the family like you you kind of got the feeling like he was always more of a director producer type, but it was like in the beginning, out of necessity, and I can act, I'm gonna put myself out here in front, but it's like that quaint early time of the career, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:33

Yeah, but the um the movie Um Hollywood Shuffle, him and Robert Townsend, they put that together.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

Yeah, there's that there's there's great stories. Maybe we'll bring that Hollywood Shuffle onto the show at some point. But there's there's some great stories that Townsend tells about, you know, they would you know act it act and get it all set up, you know, and then they would hop in a panel truck and then drive to a location and they don't even they didn't have any money or permits and just hop out of the truck into the street, shoot the scene, and then when they see a cop, they just run back into the truck and close the door knife for a while until you know. So that's good. But yeah, that's I mean uh he Kenyan did some good stuff. This is a great cast. I mean, I want to go over the the cast real quick. He got Bernie Casey, who is um oh man, what's the other big movie? He plays uh principal in one of the one other movie Bernie Casey does. Which one is that, Marty?

SPEAKER_03 19:28

Well, I know he's in Revenge of the Nerds as one of the the leader of the that's it. That's it.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

He's the leader of Lambda Lambda the Tri-Lamps, that's what it is. Yeah, so you get in that movies, though. Uh Fly Guy is Antonio Fargas, I'll watch him anything. You got Kung Fu Joe is Steve James, who is uh man, they put him next to uh Jim Brown, and it's like, oh, he's kind of short, he's a little dude.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

Oh yeah, I used to play football, and then he kind of backed off, like, oh yeah, I guess that's good.

SPEAKER_00 19:59

Isaac Hayes, Jim Brown, Janet Dubois, Don Lewis. Yes. Pre-Chef. Pre-Chef. Yeah, that's that's true. This is uh after his uh run on Midnight Special, but pre-Chef. John Vernon is Mr. Big, you got Klu Gulager, you got Kadim Hardison, you got Damon Holmes.

SPEAKER_03 20:18

Remember when Kadim was in everything? Like watching this movie again. I'm like, I remember you were you were all over the place in the 90s, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Hawthorne, Hawthorne James is one-eyed Sam. It's it's a great cast.

SPEAKER_04 20:31

It's amazing, yeah. It's like a lot of a lot of those guys that kind of blew up from that that movie with their careers. It was great. Janet Janet uh sorry, Janet Dubois, um her run on the heat of the night, didn't it come after this or was it before this?

SPEAKER_03 20:50

It probably was maybe right around. We'll have to fact check that. I think Cliff's looking it up there, but I think you're right. I think it was if I had to guess, I'd say right after. Let's see. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:05

Because I wouldn't guess it was after.

SPEAKER_00 21:08

Let me see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like and subscribe. That's really weird. I mean, I'm looking right at it, and I just and it was in the 80s, right? I thought so. I mean, I'm I'm looking at her 80s credits here and New Attitude in 1990, heart condition 1990, nearly departed. Let's see. I'm gonna get you sucker.

SPEAKER_04 21:34

Oh okay, so this it's not Janet Duball, it's Anna Marie T Johnson that played his wife. That's her name.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

There we go.

SPEAKER_04 21:42

Okay, that was my problem. Sorry, guys.

SPEAKER_00 21:44

That's why aha, see? Aha. IMDB never lies.

SPEAKER_04 21:50

Yeah. Well, that's the one that played the prostitute from the bar. Anna Marie Ton Johnson.

SPEAKER_00 21:58

That's um, I do that all the time. Time. So Marty has to correct me constantly.

SPEAKER_03 22:04

I also remember uh her taking her leg off yes was a scene that stuck with me. My god, dude.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Come get it. I don't wanna. No. I still I still I still think my favorite part of the movie is the one rib skit because it just kind of comes out of nowhere and suddenly he's just kind of fucking with this dude from behind the counter, you know, and then pulls out that massive water, you know, you got changed for a hundred, and it's like at that point I'm just like as soon as he grabs it, he's like, I'm gonna beat the shit out of you. I'm just like, oh my fucking guys and start laughing at the trouble. Takes the bag and runs off. Yeah, and and by the way, punching a midget will never will always be funny, it will never not be funny. I mean attack it at tackling a midget and then punching the shit out of him will always be funny. I shouldn't say that, I'm sorry, little person. My apologies.

SPEAKER_03 22:55

It's a fucking dude from fucking uh bad sand. Yes, exactly. And then the other guy is the he they just announced him to be at North Carolina Mad Monster. Really? Right interesting, he's been in everything from under the rainbow of fucking on up. As you need the little guy, you've seen that guy so many times. I can't think of his name right now, but it's just like, oh, he he's popped up like three or four times on my timeline this week alone. Wow, hopefully they'll send him to Arizona. They the horror community knows him because he was troll. He's also in Willow. I he's just done a shit ton of stuff, but yeah, it was just like, wow, talk about a Nexus movie. You can really play that Kevin Bacon game to connect everybody back to I'm gonna get you sucker in seven degrees.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

So this has also got John Witherspoon in it. And what is John Witherspoon? Yeah, but but John Witherspoon is that dude was amazing.

SPEAKER_04 23:55

Yeah, his comedy was always on point.

SPEAKER_00 23:59

Yep, I'll watch anything he's in. John Witherspoon's in it, I'll watch it.

SPEAKER_04 24:03

Yes. Like, I don't know, I don't think anybody could could match his his style of comedy acting. It was just over the top, but not so much where you're like annoyed with it, you know, especially uh what movie was it? Oh the the Friday movies, you know, he played the dad, but his comedy was just just there, and you're like you know, you you play like the the the stereotypical father from the hood, you know, why is he always in the kitchen eating all the goddamn food, you know, and but the way he played, you're like I can relate to that, but it's so funny the way you're doing it.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

One of my favorite memories of him is when he's sleeping in the first Friday and he goes, Give me all the fries, give me all uh give me the chitlins and all the fries you can give me. It's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 24:57

Thank you, thank you, yeah. Or when he was in the movie uh uh House Party, um that little scene he you know he had in there, he's like, um, you know, who the hell isn't the public enema? Why would anybody want a public enema anyway? Yeah, as an he was amazing.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

I I think if I have anything negative to say about I'm gonna get you sucker, I'll say that I think the the last third suffers from a pacing issue a little bit. Like it's just not as sharp. Probably the last third of the movie is not as sharp as the first third. That first half in particular, yeah, really sharp, and then it kind of starts to fade, and then by the last third, we're getting kind of silly deaths, like Hammer's death is kind of silly, and you know, and then you you you you Slade's death is kind of silly, but then of course he pops back up, and it's just you know, and I get it, like at that point we're kind of riffing on like bad USA war movie type, you know, the the Rambos, the you know, soldiers who come home and have to clean, you know, there was all those movies. I think there was one with Jan Michael Vincent back in the 80s where he comes back to like Boston from Vietnam and he moves into a bad neighborhood and they're harassing him and harassing his wife, and so he goes about, takes it upon himself to go cleaning up the fucking streets, those types of movies. Um, there was a whole series of them in the late 70s and the early 80s, and I feel like that last half of the movie starts to more parody that than kind of more black exploitation, and it kind of gets lost, it kind of gets lost in itself.

SPEAKER_03 26:31

That's like an hour's worth of jokes put into an 80-minute movie.

SPEAKER_00 26:34

Yeah, 85-minute movie.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

Yeah, I think when they get to uh don't drink your juice in the hood the minister society, I can't think of the whole title, but I think that one's a little bit tighter with its pacing. Yeah, they got up to that one. I'll have to watch that again someday. But I still like both of these more than I like the first scary movie, and a lot of people like the second scary movie, but I always thought that one was a little too gross. It's still funny, but you know, but I prefer these.

SPEAKER_00 27:00

You know, this is this is just sharp. I mean, it it's it's funny, it's sharp, and it's it uh every time I wanted to kind of roll my eyes at it, it would do something to make me fucking laugh again. The stupid fucking movie, you know. It's it's just it's he just he really nailed it, like he got it just right, you know, with the the comedy and the you know the airplane type antics, but making it his own, making it a keen keen in ivory wean thing.

SPEAKER_03 27:26

I like that it's R that they didn't try to soften it to a PG13 so they can they can get some of the uh raunchier jokes because you need all that to properly send up the genre too.

SPEAKER_00 27:36

So well, and then in the nudity is kind of ridiculous. It's that one girl running around running out of the room with her tits out, kind of looking right at the camera, like ah, they're you know, and Keen is like tries tries to follow the girl and they grab it real quick, and it was just kind of like here, that's here, we gotta put that in for the R. Here we go, boom.

SPEAKER_04 27:53

Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. Um oh gosh, I I had what was I gonna say? Um, so you're you're brought up earlier about you know Kung Fu Joe being, you know, that man was you know, he he the way I got introduced to him was actually from the American Ninja movies. And then yeah, and then I seen him in I'm gonna get you sucker. I'm like, no way. And so watching that movie, and then that part where he gets pulled, where he gets pulled over, and then he's just beating up all the cops, and that that quote right there that when everyone surrounds him, he's like, I'm Kung Fu Joe, Master Karate, Kung Fu, Jiu Jitsu, and a bunch of other shit you ain't never heard of.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

And then all those cops shoot him, and he shows up to to warn his buddies, and it's a record, it's a goddamn one of those fake fucking telephone recordings. Answering and I was just I started laughing because it was so perfectly timed. Yeah. So perfectly placed. I was just like, that's that's what this movie did. It was just he really honed his stuff, you know what I mean. But I will also say he what he did was he also opened the door to like a lot of possibilities for some also some there's been some bad shit come out of that family as much as there's been some good shit, you know. But you get some great the scary movie in Living Color, you know, your last Boy Scout, you know, Damon does some really good stuff. Uh he was a big pretty big star for a while. You know, he really was. Um probably probably career-wise, I would say maybe had a career bigger than the bigger than most of the family, I'd say. Because he he was on television for a long time too. You know, I think he had uh seven, eight eight seasons of his show or something like that.

SPEAKER_03 29:52

Um he was on Saturday Live for at least a year in the 90s after in Living Color.

unknown 29:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:01

And then somehow we get Jim Carrey out of all of this, and yeah, and then somehow we fucking get Jim Carrey out of all of this, yeah. Yeah, which leads to Living Color, which leads to and Jennifer Lopez. Wow, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 30:18

Yeah, Tommy Davidson he doesn't get enough credit either.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. I got to see him live on New Year's Eve once to stand up in like 991 or 92, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:33

Wow. He's so underrated.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

I agree. His um uh that famous clip that he did on In Living Color with uh where he played the stupid kid who wanted to be in a gang with um uh the clown, what was the clown's name on In Living Color?

SPEAKER_04 30:51

Oh uh Homie the Clown.

SPEAKER_00 30:53

Homie the Clown, yeah, and Homie the Clown just stops look at the looks at the camera and goes, These kids are ignorant, and just starts beating Tommy Davidson over the head with his bat, dude. Holy there's because this look on Tommy Davidson's face where he's like, I'm gonna steal it so I can be in a gang, and he gets this cross-eyed kind of stupid look on his face. I'm just like, oh my god. Yeah, yeah, he's fantastic.

SPEAKER_04 31:14

He is. Let's see what else about the um oh yeah. You know, I I know loving this movie, I you know, there's a lot of stuff that I can quote from it. And um the one of my favorite quotes is um when they start shooting at Keenan Ivory Wayne and Slade, and Keenan's just running around everywhere, and Slade's like, man, I thought you were trained for combat. He's like, I was, I ain't never been in it though.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

That's so good. I'm a soldier, man. I've been trained for combat.

SPEAKER_04 31:49

Yeah, and then they start shooting.

SPEAKER_00 31:52

So good.

SPEAKER_04 31:54

He's like, What are these fucking medals for then? Oh, this one's for typing, this one's for surfing.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

Oh, I got that one. And he meets the other dude who's lost his eye and he goes, I was an intermedia administrator too. Well, there we go, you know.

SPEAKER_04 32:13

What are those fucking medals for? This was a surfing. Oh, I got that one too.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

I liked um one of my favorite lines was uh when mist when they go back to it's because it's um Marlin, or which which wane is it that that's uh trying to collect the money with Kadeem Harrison? Is it Marlon? That's Damon. Oh, Damon and Kadeem. Damon and Kadeem. So okay, so yeah, so but they go back to Mr. Big to report they got their asses kicked by it them by the mom. And at the end of it, he's like, get out of here. And he's like, Yes, Uncle Mr. Big. And for some reason I just started laughing my ass off. I don't know why, but yes, Uncle Mr. Big made me laugh really hard, really hard. My other favorite, my other favorite line was uh um when he got hooked on that gold, he changed.

SPEAKER_05 33:01

Christ is fucking movie.

SPEAKER_04 33:04

He started owing people a lot of money, crazy money, Jack. Oh god. How do you go to the bathroom with all this stuff on? Oh, that's why, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 33:15

Oh my god, I love it.

SPEAKER_04 33:16

Bad fashion, it'll kill you. I I guess so. I mean, is what it is. So, what do you give it? Oh man, that that movie is actually it's a 10 out of 10 for me.

SPEAKER_00 33:33

Going all the way to the five going all the way to the five, huh? Gentleman's 10. All right.

SPEAKER_03 33:40

Marty? I give it a three. I mean, I really like it a lot, but yeah. It's not the greatest thing ever made, but I do think it's really hilarious, though.

SPEAKER_00 33:51

So I think it's I'm gonna sit it in the middle. I think it's it's right at that level of like Zucker Abrams and Zucker's sort of airplane level, and I would give that if I I haven't rated it on the show yet, but I would probably rate it what I'm gonna give this, which is a four.

SPEAKER_03 34:04

Four, that's good too.

SPEAKER_00 34:05

I think it's pretty solid four. I think generally spectrum, yeah. That was good. Um and uh yeah, I I I I haven't like I said, I haven't seen that in years. I one of my favorite things about coming about this program and that we do is uh getting exposure to weird new stuff I haven't seen, and then B getting to kind of force a forced revisit on things I haven't uh watched in a long time because I've been watching everything else, you know what I mean? Yeah, um and then you you see something like this and you're like, oh that's that's why you watch that.

SPEAKER_03 34:38

And then our second movie today, yeah, yeah, which is one that I like to watch maybe twice a year. What is Ener the Dragon, Cliff?

SPEAKER_00 34:49

Uh Ener the Dragon. Boy, I feel like I shouldn't have to introduce this movie. Um Enter the Dragon, 1973, rated R one hour and forty-two minutes. A Shaolin monk travels to an island fortress to spy on an opium lord, who is also a former monk from this temple under the guise of attending a martial arts tournament. Uh directed by Robert Klaus, written by Michael Allen and Bruce Lee. Or Michael Allen, my apologies, Bruce Lee. Stars Bruce Lee, John Saxon, and Jim Kelly. And then your storyline is Inner the Dragon revolves around three main characters. Lee, a man recruited by an agency to investigate a tournament hosted by Han, since they believe he has an opium trade there. Uh-huh. And Roper and Williams, who are four more army buddies since Vietnam, and they enter the tournament due to different problems that they have. It's a deadly tournament that they will enter on an island. What a terrible storyline. Yeah.

unknown 35:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:46

It's a classic storyline for that time, though.

SPEAKER_00 35:50

No, the the whole like the whole the sister being raped or sister being killed, or that type of thing in these movies to to drive the hero, especially in these kung fu movies, is fucking so it's almost a trope. It is a trope.

SPEAKER_03 36:07

And IMDB has terrible synopsis a lot of the time, too. They sound like they were written by AI. Yeah, totally. So it's just like, yeah, yeah, there's a better way to describe the movie sometimes. But that's where we like to read it from and poke fun at the synopsis every week. But uh, I guess we'll start with there was a nice Criterion box set of blues uh blues Bruce Lee's movies that came out. I didn't want to say Blu-ray and Bruce Lee at the same time, and it came out blues. There was a box set of Bruce Lee movies that came out from Criterion a few years ago that had all of his films in it, and so we finally get the two different versions of Enter the Dragon on home video. There's the theatrical version, which is about three minutes shorter than the one you just read off there, and then there's like the director's cut, which is the one we've been living with on video forever. That's the one that I was used to. But apparently the only real differences between these two versions is the extended cut at the very beginning. You have that scene where he's walking with uh his fellow Shaolin monk leader who's telling him, you know, and when it when it hits, it hits all by itself, and he's like, Well, wait a minute, you know, blah blah blah. That whole scene is only in the extended version. And then at the very end, when he's in the room full of mirrors, hey, that's a Jimi Hendrix song. How crazy is that? Uh there's a little voiceover where he's flashing back to the enemy is deceiving you or whatever he's saying, and then he starts smashing the mirrors. And those are the only two differences between the versions. But I kind of like that extra scene, so I always watch that that version, but it's still kind of neat to have the theatrical now as well.

SPEAKER_00 37:51

The pace is I watched the theatrical for this, but yeah, I've seen, I mean, I've I've lived with yeah, yeah, yeah, because that I mean that's the version I I've grew up with, is that extended version, you know. I watched this on I watched this on UHF stations as a kid over and over and over, and we kicked each other and we punched each other over and over and over, and did and did fake kung fu moves and fake flying kicks and fake screams, and fucking then Shokusugi showed up with his fucking Enter the Ninja movies, yeah. It was all about throwing stars and fucking nunchucks and shit you couldn't get your hands on.

SPEAKER_03 38:29

Well, it's funny you bring that up because you remember that TV show The Master with Lee Van Cleef. Yes, well the first episode of it directed by the same guy who directed Enter the Dragon.

SPEAKER_00 38:40

Robert Klaus is hilarious, and that's Shokus and that's Shokusu's.

SPEAKER_03 38:49

And then Blink and You'll Miss Jackie Chan and Enter the Dragon. I see him every time now because Bruce grabs his hair, pulls his head back, and you get that close up to Bruce's face while he like snaps his neck off camera, but it's like, hey.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

Yes, I believe so. Yeah, that's Sam that's Samuel Hung in the first fight scene, right? Because I'm I'm like, okay.

unknown 39:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 39:14

I looked right as soon as I as soon as he stood up for that that opening scene, and I was like, that's gotta be Sam O'Hung. And that's probably the last time Sam O'Hung was ever taller than somebody on film, because he's not a very tall dude either.

SPEAKER_04 39:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:27

Anyway, he he looks so so much bigger than Lee in the movie, you know what I mean? He looks he looks much more um um lar, I guess, large.

SPEAKER_04 39:37

Yeah, I think he was maybe I won't I I'm I could be wrong. I think he was like maybe a teen or maybe like in his twenties in that movie. Yeah, J.

SPEAKER_00 39:49

He went on to make some fantastic kung fu movies. I mean, he went on to make some fantastic kung fu movies. Oh, definitely and probably and probably one of the very rare kung fu television shows on in America.

SPEAKER_04 40:04

Oh yeah. Uh martial law.

SPEAKER_00 40:07

Martial law, there you go, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:10

Yeah, it was because of Enter the Dragon I became a martial artist, but I think that's you know the reason why a lot of people became a martial artist is because of Engine of the Dragon.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

It's it's that and the Karate Kid. Yeah, that too. You know, those two things together. I mean, I I started into martial arts because of the Karate Kid for a while, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:29

But we were into it even before Karate Kid came out, though, right? Because like you were saying UHF stations on the weekend, it was either Godzilla Marathon or Kung Fu Marathons, right? And yeah, we were just eating that shit up. I remember trying to get my parents to take me to lessons when I was a little kid, which lasted for about two weeks before the they got tired of taking me to them, but I was into it.

SPEAKER_04 40:53

Well, yeah, I can remember watching it with my dad uh when I was seven, and you know, what uh Enter Dragon came on, and I was like, oh my god, you know, I want to do this and just be be just like Bruce Lee. And so they enrolled me in martial arts and you know, the stories, you know, his rest is history from there, you know.

SPEAKER_00 41:15

Here you are years later with God knows how many stunts and black belts and asses whooped in your hands, sir. If you guys don't know Robert, Robert's a martial artist for what is it now, 25, 30 years, something like that.

SPEAKER_04 41:30

Uh for C Hold on 39 years.

SPEAKER_00 41:37

39 years. So he's pretty pretty good at it, and he's also a stunt man, so he's also used to used to dealing out and taking beatings. So um he's got a he's got a pretty good uh he's got a pretty good stance on my opinions. You should probably listen to him. He talks about Inner the Dragon, he's probably got more relative experience and knowledge than we do on the fucking subject.

SPEAKER_04 41:59

So maybe a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

But my one of my favorite movies, um, I don't watch it as often, but every time I watch it, I enjoy the shit out of it. It's it's so hard not to enjoy the movie. He gives you a little bit of um, you know, that shunk sort of wisdom to enjoy alongside uh the just the ass whoopings that he's dealing out throughout the film, and it's fantastic. And I also feel like it he's starting to move kung fu out of its um he does the kung fu differently. Like the, you know, if you watched Drunken Master or you know the 36 styles of you know, Shaolin or something like that, and the Kung Fu's very it's like a dance, right? It's very much it's very performative and very you know expected. And then he moves into a style that's much more like a fighting style, right? Where he's kicking dudes and punching dudes. And you know, I I love at the very beginning of the movie, he shows you he's got ground skills, takes a dude down, wraps him, puts him in that scissor lock, and then you know, uh throws it, does some throwing techniques, so he's using some, you know, some judo or akido type skills. The guy's he's very well-rounded as a martial artist, you know what I mean? And you don't think you see a lot of that in kung fu movies, at least until later when we get into more of the crouching tiger, hidden dragon, and we move into the the flying wire styles and all that, where it gets so fast and so frenetic, you know, old boy, that type of thing.

SPEAKER_04 43:24

I don't know what a lot of people are.

SPEAKER_00 43:26

Yeah, he wanted to be here. I dug that style a lot.

SPEAKER_04 43:29

Yeah, I think with with his style in the movie, he wanted to he wanted it to be more like um well, let me put it this way because of him is the reason why MMA exists. So the way his fighting style was, it wasn't more of just like the old kung fu movies we we were used to seeing. He wanted to make it more of a realistic type fight, um, but just like you said, with the ground moves and the and the flipping and uh the punching and the kicking like that, um, because of his style, G Kuno. um he made it to where okay this has this is more realistic than what we see like the flying monks and and and the the flipping everywhere type thing you know it was more of a ground and not more not ground and pound but more of like you know face to face you know what I mean and uh that's that's one of the reasons you know a lot of people like it why I like it is that you get to see the way he choreographed it the way you know you you get to see the the punch you get to see the kick um look like it connect because of the way he wanted it done very much very much so and you know and he was known for being pretty hard on his fellow stuntmen you know he was not known for for uh you know pulling I mean you'd pull him but you know he'd also probably still probably hurt right yeah um yeah but every movie he was on though but that Bruce Lee was on he got challenged by a uh an extra you know or or somebody just wanted to fight him you know and he would humble them yeah you get that many guys practicing martial arts you're gonna there's somebody's gonna try and establish some sort of stupid pecking order right that's gonna happen it's ridiculous I I think oh gosh I forgot what movie it might have been enter the dragon where uh extra was sitting on a wall and he called out Bruce Lee and you know Bruce Lee beat him and then he just you know picks him up and says go back and sit on the wall now like okay what else she gonna do get your ass whooping there's your proof go sit down yeah you know I love that is this his best he he what do you what do you make five or six I think it's four complete movies right and then the incomplete game of death is that the right number you have the big boss the Chinese connection the way of the dragon enter the dragon and then the reconstructed game of death which one's the one with Norris is that way of the dragon the one before this which is sometimes called return return of the dragon of the dragon that's what I viewed as yeah um in the Fist of Fury and the big boss the the titles were actually swapped right one of them's called the big brawl also right the big brawl there's one yeah no is that Jackie Chan I think that's Jackie Chan movie it's big brawl okay that's Jackie Chan my bad like I said it gets confusing it's good it does get confusing.

SPEAKER_03 46:36

There's even a game of death too that's just a bunch of outtakes thrown in and there's a whole Bruce genre it's really kind of yeah no that's no kid one guy created a whole genre but is this his best is this Bruce's best kung fu movie is this his best movie I mean I think so I the other movies are great but this one there's just boy they were really hitting the pinnacle with this from as far as the filmmaking aspect to the energy to the philosophy the thing that keeps me coming back to it is the philosophy but what do you think Robert?

SPEAKER_04 47:12

Oh yeah this is this is his best um if if he would have finished um uh the other one I just I just blanked on the title I'm sorry um yeah if he would have finished it it it would have been either that one or enter the dragon because the other one just the story in itself was just um amazing you know and um but if I had to pick between those two if the other one was finished if I had to pick pick between those two enter the dragon would definitely be you know his best I I agree I think this is his best movie I I asked because I I don't think it has two of his best fight sequences that I really enjoy which is Chuck Norris and him in the Coliseum oh that's yeah that shit is so good when he rips his chest hair out and then blows it out of his fingers man I'm just like oh this is this is so fucking good I think he wanted Norris in this one in as uh the guy with the Irish name right yeah yeah um but what's his name Anakin Skywalker Scar years before Anakin Skywalker had it you know the uh yeah um a guy with his name was it was it Robert Wall yeah it was yeah wall Bob Wall yeah Bob Wall Bob Wall yeah yeah who was actually Bruce Lee's you know bodyguard yeah yeah and sparring partner too right uh I I believe one of them yeah yeah um but yeah he he won him for that but I don't know why he turned it down but Bob Wall was he was uh he was a beast I like that dude well he takes a beating in that but that that nut kick that nut shot he takes from from that kick when he jumps over Bruce and Bruce does that kick straight up like oh my god that oh I don't care if it's a stun or not that still hurt yeah and that's that's another thing about the way he would you know do the the fight scenes is you know you see in the other kung fu movies the the hero finds a way to get out kung fu like or whatever superhero like but Bruce Lee's philosophy is like get out of a any the fight any way you can so that's why he bit Bolo Young that's why he kicked Bob Wall in the nuts you know he's like do what you gotta do to get out of a fight you know to end the fight yeah no he yeah absolutely yeah even John Saxon does some of those methods of do anything.

SPEAKER_03 49:43

Dude I fucking love John Saxon in this movie.

SPEAKER_00 49:45

I this John's John Saxon in this movie is like a karate hand solo. Like he's he's he's got that sort of swagger and that coolness about him and he's sort of a ladies man but he's also kind of a rogue and kind of a wraith and and and uh but yet if you challenge him you're gonna probably get your ass kicked it's pretty likely you're gonna get your fucking ass kicked. Oh dude so especially when he fights the big dude and I'm just like man I love John Saxon of this fucking movie. What I especially love is like when they're taking him down and showing him the operation and shit and he's all excited and they get to opium and he's like ah because he's like there here's the point that I've reached where I can't I don't fucking see it. Which means also we're gonna have to fight aren't we yeah shit here we go I just love it so much. I absolutely adore it.

SPEAKER_04 50:40

Yeah and I I'm sorry I made a mistake it was it was John Saxon that bit Bolo that's right yeah yeah no you're right on the calf yeah but it's still the same type of you know do anything yeah yeah well it's like you like you said he's choreographing all these fights so he that's exactly what he's trying to get across to you is yeah yeah the fight any way possible and Jim Kelly's man you come right out of a comic book you come right out of a comic book I fucking love Black Bell Jones I love him he's so good Jim Kelly oh man and people actually you know the the black culture my culture I guess you know they really they really enjoyed watching you know Jim Kelly in this movie and I was like what a a a black hero a black martial artist what what is this about you know and he has a cool mother cool motherfucker and a ladies man and exactly you know and you see that you're like oh man like wow okay so we can do other stuff besides being a drug dealer and a pimp so you know my one of my favorite shots is is one of the very first shots of Jim when he's crossing the street because this is one of the cool things about this movie is you get to see like I don't know what city it is but it's definitely cities in some city in China and you get to kind of see like what the street level of China would have been like back then, right?

SPEAKER_00 52:03

And you see this picture of Jim Kelly crossing the street and they're shooting he's trying to make it cinematic by kind of looking around and all this as he crosses but on the street right across you can see all these Chinese people who are held up and are la laughing and kind of pointing at this fucking guy crossing the street as they're filming him right it was uh it's one of my favorite shots in the movie. It's like because it's so it's this this mix of like old China and them making this fucking kung fu movie in the middle of fucking you know whichever city they were in it's great.

SPEAKER_04 52:31

Yeah I'm sorry if I missed anyone but it's been a long day or whatever the line is yeah uh yeah that's why you had to die man you were you were macking too much I didn't you know part of me is like you know the way he died or it was just it was bad but the he was just being accused of something he didn't do you know right like when you were the only one out there and somebody attacked my guards it was you know it was Bruce Lee but like why why are you gonna blame Jim Kelly? I don't understand.

SPEAKER_03 53:09

Oh yeah I wasn't the only one outside yeah I wasn't the only one outside like okay well I I guess I shouldn't have to rat him out you should know who you should know who's out there beating everybody up and like I was mentioning before we got on if if this was a Dungeons and Dragons game you'd be like uh Dungeon Master I am going to attempt to capture the snake and the DM would be like oh really okay well then you gotta roll to see if you get a 20 or something caught the snake. Okay well you have to use it within the next 20 rounds or that thing's gonna bite you. Oh no problem Dungeon Master I will be done with this snake before 20 rounds I love where he just throws that snake in the room and just kind of sits there like you know it's almost like you're watching Kentucky Fried movie already where they're jumping out of the window and then he just goes in you know it's like I'm gonna use this snake most people would be like ah get the snake out of here he's like no this this is gonna come in handy later it's like the basis for all video games of uh you know any kind of side scrolling beat em up video game where would that be without movies like this right yeah they should have made an Anti the Dragon video game seriously people knocked themselves silly with nunchucks after this movie came out because they have no idea what they're doing with them but Bruce is so precise it's like now I'm gonna show you how to use this weapon it's like a little demonstration each little battle and whack whack whack and people like I can get those and they're knocking themselves right in the middle of the forehead with it.

SPEAKER_00 54:56

Yes yes that's what that's one of my notes is that when he goes underground that sequence where he moves from spear to sticks to nunchucks and he's showing with each you know I it's cool to kind of see like oh he's a mastery of everything okay he can use that he can use that he can use that that's really cool. Yeah I I think that's really really neat.

SPEAKER_03 55:18

The UK would always cut the nunchucks out because it was too much really took years for those scenes to be reinstated and that's insane.

SPEAKER_00 55:28

I can't imagine watching that movie without the nunchuck scene I know that's like wow that's that's no no you can't do that that's like taking all the whip scenes out of Indiana Jones. What the fuck are you talking about? No I I love that Bruce is in this movie is kind of like an Asian 007 right like he's got a doctor working yeah doctor no it's got a Dr. No vibe with the hand he's working for the British government and he's kind of he's kind of like an Asian 007 who's kind of empowered with a license to kill like really but he's not he's not the imperialist British exactly he's a exact yeah he's right yeah back but this is back when you know the Brits were in China and had influence in China and Hong Kong and all that weird stuff. So it's very politically a different landscape too. Oh definitely is yeah I'm I'm glad we got spared all the you know the I'm you know honestly just like they were like well she doesn't get raped she kills herself to avoid raped it's like oh thank god I don't watch that shit yeah but it also gives you good gives you a good place for why he had the scar and all that type shit and why Bruce wants to beat his ass so bad and yeah outside outside yes and there's always Robert there's always that guy right on the boat the one dude who's snapping a fist at Bruce and all that shit and he's like on the island right there you know there's always that guy at a at a dojo or martial arts thing. That's the game of no game you know I follow it I try to follow it every day in regular life you know yeah that's that that was one of Bruce Lee's philosophies though the art of fighting without fighting right right you know he put that dude on a boat and he beat him without fighting him so yeah yeah I love that I love that and I love that the boat's going under too is it's like dude you're good luck.

SPEAKER_04 57:26

That guy gets taken care of pretty quick in the tournament he's you know he's also and I I don't even know who he is or if he's a real martial artist. So I probably should look into that I don't know but I didn't like him so obviously nobody did.

SPEAKER_00 57:45

Yeah that's a good question which one was he? Hmm music by Lalo Schifferin is that how you say his last name yeah Lalo did a lot of work man I mean even the class of 1984 movie we talked about years ago he was supposed to work with Jim Morrison on the American Prayer album but here on Enter the Dragon he's providing us with all that iconic waka chica waka chica waka chica waka chica waka chicka and all the eerie parts too like when he when they're killing people you know or he's stomping on their head or all that weird eerie almost like horror movie music as you're saying he does have a lot of credits right a ton he's got I mean he worked on THX 1138 Kelly's Heroes Bullet Kugan's Bluff um cool hand luke um not now he didn't he wasn't you know didn't do all the conducting but he worked on these Dirty Harry Joe Kidd um Enter the Dragon was he he was full conductor um yeah Magnum Force the Exorcist had he had he had unused music in the Exorcist I mean there's a I mean this dude worked on everything he was the theme music composer for Starsky and Hutch Sanford and Son he did some music for it dude worked on everything guy did the wow no he no he just had some he just had some stock music used in two of the episodes but he it looks like he did do the Starsky and Hutch theme so wow yeah so he worked a lot and so putting him on in the dragon was a great idea the the music's perfect for the film yeah especially it it really encapsulates it's like we were saying about that last movie uh last waltz we were talking about it's a time capsule this is a fucking time capsule of China in the 70s from the the British and all their involvement to the streets the city streets and then the kind of crazy like you know you've got the the white lady who's like a dressed in all the British kind of like go go girl shit you know and you've got it's just it's what it's got all these different little hints of it it's weird. Oh man yeah you know I don't have you guys uh excuse me heard of the movie I know we're talking about entry the dragon but have you heard of the movie uh the warrior I think it's on YouTube I believe so is that um um what's his name what's the guy in that one um I can't remember his name but it was Bruce Lee's original idea for the show Kung Fu yes yeah so they brought it back with his original idea and not you know what Hollywood turned it into with David Carradine interesting that's why I was like oh just wanted to throw in some you know that little thing in there for you that has to do with Bruce Lee I did like that it does a that this movie does like a mini sorcerer where you get a backstory you get John Saxon running for people who are need need money you get Jim Kelly kicking a bunch of white racist white cop ass and then having to run from the cops you know and then you get Bruce then you get Bruce's story about being asked to go and so you get all this backstory that leads up into the you know and sorcerer kind of does that you get everybody's backstory and then suddenly we're in the jungle in South America you know that was kind of I like I said I it's like a Chinese James Bond movie I fucking I've really dug it.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:10

Oh it could have been a who knows what kind of franchise yeah oh god yeah from this yeah yeah I don't know you it could have been a franchise but I don't know if you could have ever topped it well that's true yeah but then again who knows what he had up his sleeve you know that's true but I know what you mean it's so perfect though it would have been hard you'd be hard pressed it'd be up there with like the Goldfinger or something where you're like yeah they made other good bonds but some of those early ones they really hit it kind of perfect perfect not mentioning all the horribly politically incorrect stuff in Goldfinger but you know what I mean as far as like an action movie goes wasn't it supposed to be a version where at the end of the movie he's actually the leader of the island now and he's he's training these guys because in the movie Dragon the Bruce Lee story the final shot of Enter the Dragon was to the top yeah yeah nice well so I'm wondering if I don't know why they would have taken that out I'm glad you brought that movie up I I I like that movie quite a bit the Bruce Lee's dragon the Bruce Lee story um but one of my favorite parts about it is you know how he's being haunted by that figure that keeps coming after him that that he's trying to protect himself from and all that and then there's that he's they're doing the they're shooting the mirrors scene you know from Inner the Dragon and he has that flash and then he's like hey man where'd you go and I I just really dig that whole scene and I always think about it when I watch Inner the Dragon and I see him doing the mirrors I always think about that scene from Dragon the Bruce Lee story that they seem to so perfectly complement each other.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:49

Oh yeah makes you wonder if that's what really happened though right exactly that's exactly it I that's that's exactly where I'm like is that is did they really stop? Did he really get lost?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:59

Yeah yeah the only thing that so the only two things about this movie that I could say again negatively would be it has some film stock issues just from you know there are some color like some color jumps and some some some things just from just you know 70s shooting a movie in China using different stock whatever they were doing you were watching that theatrical version yeah the the extended one on the criterion much better image quality because I looked over at the theatrical a little bit and you could tell it was a different print that had those issues you're talking about but this movie's always looked a little weird. Always always just a little bit weird on the big screen it looks amazing.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:41

That's the really the the way you're supposed to watch it absolutely at home it's yeah everything you're saying yeah the only other thing I could think about would be um that the sneaking around stuff kind of uh you know because it's more like you know it's like a if it was a kiss song it would be you know I like to uh you know sneak around all night and kung fu every day you know yeah to Detroit Rock City you know what was that we know total concentration on going off into the other movie again. So but the point being it it's um the sneaking around stuff it's kind of slows the film down to a certain extent. It's at least to we did when I was a kid because I just wanted more kung fu I was like why is he sneaking around just beat a bunch of people's asses right yeah um but and that's really but that's such a nitpicky thing. It's giving you a minute to breathe that's all yeah yeah and that's you need it you need it. But like it's I'm trying to find any kind of negative I can and it's hard to because it's such a such an awesome fucking kung fu movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:44

It is I yeah I I really can't find anything negative about it that that would just stand out to me you know everything about it to me was great um as a kid even now looking at it like I can't I can't get mad at anything about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:04

No it does some it it does some weird things you know it like I said it I think because again because of the 70s and they're trying things like there's a bit of a stop start with the whole fight at the end with Mr. Hand you know it's like you to get to that mirror scene and that type of thing um but again you just if you want to I mean if you want to nitpick anything you probably nitpick anything to death right but yeah this one's uh this one's really fucking good I love that the big Korean guy that's um bo uh what was his name Bolo Bolo Young yeah he's um he's in blood sport he's the he's the main bad guy in blood sport too which I absolutely adore and I got to talk to Don Gibbs about blood sport and he said the only person who got harmed on Bloodsport he said it was a f a great shoot everybody had a great time and especially for a an action movie there were no injuries except for the people who got kicked in the face by Jean Claude Van Dale

SPEAKER_04 1:06:00

Uh geez, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:04

Which made me laugh. Yeah, same here. Same here.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:09

Yeah, I heard he was unsafe, but okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:12

Yeah, I mean, he looks he he looks good on film doing it, I'll tell you that.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:18

I think my favorite line is is uh when Jim Kelly stands up and goes, uh, Mr. Han, I think I'd like to leave your island. He sounds like a he sounds like an offended woman on a date, on like a first date. He was like, how dare you? Take me home. You know, it's really funny. Just his old Tony was just like clutch your pearls at the same time, too, Jim.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:43

And flabbergasted out exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:46

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:49

Oh man. And that's a big word to use flabbergasted.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:54

Flabbergasted. That's three consonants at least.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:59

Yeah, but my uh I like the philosophy Bruce Lee tried to teach in that movie. I I agree. You know, they did cut a lot of it out, but the philosophy was is just on point. I love it. You know, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:14

Boards don't hit back. You know, you need to have emotional content in what you're doing, not just fighting, but and and emotional content doesn't necessarily mean anger, it means emotional fucking content, you know. Yeah, control yourself, yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. And and you know, don't don't look at the finger, look at the moon, or otherwise you're gonna miss the moon, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:36

Like Lawrence of Arabia. I I can't imagine it with those scenes cut out. I mean, you watched it with those things out, but it's still like and it still works, but like that's such a vital piece of the movie to me, where he's talking about.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:50

Well, you still get it, you just don't get as much. Like the theatrical version, uh, the three things I mentioned are in the theatrical version. So they're they're there. Um, but you just don't get the extra little bits that make it a little bit more compatible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I agree. I think I think the the director's version is the choice version. That's the one. If you're folks, if you haven't seen Enter the Dragon, shame on you and go watch it right now and watch the director's cut. Shame.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:16

The rare time will tell you to watch the director's cut first.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:20

Yes, very much so. Yeah, this is that's that's definitely the one you want to see because it's the one everybody saw back in the day. If you didn't see it in the theater, that's definitely the one you saw. Okay. Oh yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:32

So go watch it. Not now, but right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:35

What do you give it?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:37

Oh man. Well, I mean, obviously, you probably know what I give it. You know, has to be a 10.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:47

Has to be. I'm I'm right there with you. It's five stars for me. Yeah, I'm I'm also five. Yeah, yeah. It's probably one of the greatest kung fu movies ever fucking made. There are a couple of others that I could argue about with it, and we could vacillate back and forth about which one is his best fight scene. But this is the one where everything that he is trying to do in these films all coalesces and comes together perfectly. And he makes this amazing kung fu movie where the idea, the story, everything just fires perfectly. All of his bad guys are awesome. He's even got like John Saxon working with him at one point, you know. And I can't see John Saxon without hearing if that's John Saxon, I'm dead. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Mitchell flashback. Yeah, my Mitchell flashback. Yeah. But yeah, five stars. Five stars.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:39

Yeah. Are we going through a one through five uh scale? Because that's only going past way past it.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:46

Yeah, no, and we we do that call that a gentleman's ten, which is two times whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:50

So yeah, five stars. So, yeah, you know, I give it the highest, so five, you know, obviously. But um, yeah, my favorite, one of my favorites, obviously, the quote that we just talked about was you know, when he's teaching his student, he's like, What was that? An exhibition, you know, and you know, just tries to tell him we need emotional content, not anger. That's that's something I try and like live by when I was training. And um, the quote is, it's like a finger pointing to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger, or you'll miss all that heavenly glory. Yeah. I love that line. One of the best lines ever.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:36

Yeah, no, I completely agree. There's uh a lot, a lot just buried in that one thing, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:46

Um, we'll be back next week with uh a couple of movies that could have easily been Jean-Claude Van Damme vehicles. They're two films about men in desperate need of some female energy. It's Bad Day at BlackRock and the Party Animal next week.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:08

Uh those will uh yeah. Listeners, you'll want to tune into that. Party Animal's been a big uh big uh influence on Marty and I, um, probably as much as Bruce Lee was, maybe more.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:19

And the juice and the uh I'm gonna get you, sucker. That's right. When you watch old episodes of our public access show from the first year we did it, you can see the goofy special thanks, and we're saying like Jack Slade and shit and the craft and maybe giving thanks to Mr. Big as like pretty much every character in the movie. Yeah, it's like it's just we were silly kids back then, but that and CB4, I think, were two of the big ones from back then that we were.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:47

Well, we made CBD.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:48

Not yeah, that was not nothing to do with comic book diaries.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:56

Oh my great you guys want to get out of here on a quote?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:03

Uh sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:07

Just support anything. Well, quote for one of the movies today. Oh man. You see.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:18

I'm a soldier, man. I'm a soldier, man. I've been trained for combat.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:22

Yeah. Um, oh yeah. So um man, do you know do you understand what I'm saying, brother? No, actually, I don't because I grew up in an all-white neighborhood. You know, like I didn't know how to dance. The only dance I knew, that little Springsteen dance, you know, the I love Springsteen. And and to quote our Negro poet Don Cornelius, peace, love, and soul.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:00

That's my quote. It is like a finger pointing away to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger, or you will miss all of that heavenly glory.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:12

Yes. Robert, thanks so much for coming on, bud. Yeah, thank you. Thanks so much. It's a lot of fun. We're out of here later, y'all. Thank you.