every time I'm worried or angry or
0:02
frustrated or offended it's instant and
0:05
obvious I'm just going to work on not
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being that way and getting back to
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Center so that I can enjoy the
0:11
omniscient all powerful and all knowing
0:14
uh that I'm part and parcel to and I'm
0:16
going to stop trying to discover
0:19
sometimes something that's uh incapable
0:21
of discovering uh instead I'm just going
0:24
to go with the obvious in the instant my
0:26
reaction to fear and dissipate the
0:29
amount of time I SP in the reaction to
0:30
fear and so for me that practice has
0:34
evolved where I have this uh attraction
0:38
you can call it I also have a perception
0:41
I also have a responsibility equating up
0:44
into a an accountability in my life to
0:47
be in control of it by being in control
0:49
of the amount of time that I spend
0:51
reacting to fear and I spend less time
0:54
reacting to fear than most human beings
0:56
therefore I have more information more
0:59
energy more light more lessons and more
1:01
love than most
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[Music]
1:12
people hey guys welcome to the beyond
1:15
help project podcast my name is Jason
1:17
Tharp and I am extremely excited to
1:20
invite this next guest on uh who's going
1:22
to drop some knowledge on you guys that
1:24
are really going to help uh have an
1:25
impact and bring hope to your life uh in
1:27
all forms and uh that is uh David
1:30
Meltzer um if you don't know who he is
1:32
uh you should you know look him up uh
1:34
you can pretty much find him everywhere
1:37
um and you know I will say before we
1:39
jump in here I just want to uh just say
1:41
one thing about David thei um other than
1:44
being a guy from Ohio which is amazing
1:46
is that I've sat with Dave um in three
1:50
four different occasions and unlike a
1:53
lot of other online people personalities
1:55
that I have met this dude is 100%
1:58
genuine all the time and um even when
2:02
people aren't around all it so to me
2:04
this is like this is pure knowledge pure
2:07
like love pure all of these things that
2:10
we're all looking for in life and I just
2:11
really hope that you guys all listen to
2:13
what uh Dave has to uh to say about all
2:15
this stuff because I think it's going to
2:16
be pretty amazing so David thank you so
2:18
much for taking some time out to join us
2:20
here um how's life
2:23
going it's going extremely well I would
2:25
say is amazing as an understatement uh I
2:29
am on Quest and understanding through my
2:33
core values and it just goes through
2:36
different seasons of Enlightenment when
2:38
I say Enlightenment I'm talking about uh
2:40
being consistent in paying attention and
2:43
giving attention to what I want to learn
2:45
and uh that consistency allows for the
2:48
peeling of different layers of awareness
2:52
epidermis uh and I have learned through
2:55
even since I saw you last how important
2:58
it is to be annoying to to myself um
3:01
it's easy to be annoying to other with
3:03
the qualities and characteristics that
3:05
I'm going to discuss of how I'm annoying
3:08
to myself but there's two things that
3:10
really stand out uh since we saw each
3:12
other last that have marketly made a
3:15
difference in peeling away the epidermis
3:18
of awareness and one is a quest that
3:20
I've been on which is to be honest uh to
3:24
myself but without being hard on myself
3:29
and I've never put those two together
3:31
before that I've always been on a quest
3:33
to be as honest as I can and in radical
3:36
humility realizing that within the
3:38
context of human nature I'm a liar
3:40
cheater manipulator over seller and
3:42
backend seller at a Quantum level so I
3:44
really have to work at it uh but I never
3:47
realized that what comes along with
3:50
being honest with ourselves is being
3:52
hard on ourselves and we can counteract
3:55
all the goodness that's created by being
3:57
honest with ourselves if we don't
4:00
utilize forgiveness alongside the
4:02
gratitude that it takes to be honest
4:04
with ourselves in order to effectuate
4:06
more ease and implementing that honesty
4:10
and then the second thing which you know
4:12
is a love language of yours and mine uh
4:15
which is you have to be repetitive with
4:18
yourself uh and so don't give yourself
4:20
too much credit uh that you're going to
4:23
learn the first time you got to
4:25
keep reading something a hundred times
4:27
in a row I've done for example nine
4:30
years of reading the cor of Miracles
4:32
every day or Napoleon Hill or Dr Wayne
4:35
Dy or several of my favorites now I'm
4:37
also added Walter Isaacson in there so
4:40
uh I'm here to help people be annoying
4:43
to themselves to be honest with
4:45
themselves but not hard on themselves
4:47
and be repetitive which is super
4:49
annoying as well yeah well you know
4:52
that's a great segue because I think you
4:53
kind of answered the question but I also
4:54
I want to I want to dig a little further
4:56
than that so how I Define hope is an
4:58
impact point so it's the point to get
4:59
just started and it also is when you
5:01
start down that path and you ultimately
5:02
fail hope is the way that helps you back
5:05
there so I I Define a little different
5:06
than what the traditional way is so the
5:08
question is is like if you could go back
5:10
in time at any point in your life and
5:11
give yourself hope with that definition
5:14
like what would that look like and how
5:16
like what piece of advice would you give
5:18
that that moment to what you know now
5:21
uh
5:23
yeah I I think it would happen when my
5:26
wife uh told me she was leaving me um
5:31
I think it would have helped me to
5:33
understand uh hope as you define it um
5:37
and also the advice I would have given
5:39
myself uh not just to take stock in who
5:42
I was and what I wanted to become which
5:44
was the advice my wife gave me that
5:47
ultimately saved my life and saved my
5:49
marriage uh but it's ask for help um I
5:54
think within the context of Hope is
5:57
faith faith that there's an all- knowing
6:00
and omniscient more than enough of
6:02
everything for everyone and until we
6:06
have that hope or faith that there's
6:08
more than enough of every for everyone
6:11
we'll never feel comfortable that asking
6:14
for help is a action or an activity of
6:18
value ad that it's not a negotiation or
6:20
a trade when we ask for help and the
6:24
fastest and easiest way to get to where
6:25
we want to be and utilize that hope and
6:28
utilize that faith
6:30
is to Simply identify uh who it is that
6:33
holds the directions to where we want to
6:35
be and ask them to help us and that
6:39
would be for me the moment that I needed
6:41
the most hope and the most Faith uh the
6:44
moment in which I wish I would have
6:47
clicked on what I believe today 17 years
6:50
later is to find people like you to
6:53
surround myself people like you that sit
6:55
in a situation according to a topic a
6:58
subject matter expertise that I want to
7:01
be good at and ask them for help yeah I
7:04
think that's wonderful and it's it's a
7:06
great Segway I I was um recently uh last
7:10
week I was in New York and I was at a a
7:13
I don't know it was supposed to be a
7:15
conference but it was like one of those
7:16
things where people give you like two
7:17
cents of value and try to get you to go
7:20
you know to their site and luckily where
7:22
I I really had that moment of asking for
7:24
help and it was that it was that same
7:26
shift for me in my head I I said why am
7:28
I sitting in this thing when I already
7:30
probably have the answers I need in my
7:32
circle and I've always struggled with
7:34
asking for help and so I literally was
7:37
like I texted a couple people that I
7:38
knew and I leaned over to the person
7:40
that was there and I said I've got what
7:42
I needed out here I left I went to the
7:43
hotel got in the subway got to my car
7:45
and drove and drove back home and it was
7:48
crazy liberating for me because and
7:51
scary at the same time asking for help
7:54
because it is that unknown and you put a
7:55
label on it like oh they're going to
7:57
judge me or whatever so if there are
7:59
some people out there listening to this
8:00
that are they're struggling with this
8:02
idea of help like being somebody that is
8:04
you know Successful by all means
8:06
everybody would look at and go like man
8:08
how how do people get over that
8:09
intimidation factor of asking somebody
8:12
that is in that field for help like
8:14
what's your best approach to getting to
8:16
somebody in that
8:18
manner well what a terrific question
8:21
because I think there's some missing
8:23
elements in hope uh and faith that the
8:27
more more we give the more we receive
8:29
and uh you and I have spoken in the past
8:32
about the skills or the nuances that are
8:35
not taught about implementing the more
8:38
we give the more we receive and so what
8:41
I think really helps people is to
8:43
identify those skills uh in the values
8:46
that uh Empower those skills so for me
8:49
from the research that I've done in a
8:51
religious philosophical theoretical and
8:53
spiritual sense is that let's start with
8:57
what the historical texts are are really
8:59
referring to which is uh in the context
9:02
of asking for help the more we give help
9:06
the more we're
9:07
given and so what skill do we utilize in
9:12
order to elevate our awareness to all
9:14
that we're given when we're giving help
9:16
to everyone and so what I want to do is
9:18
empower the nicest kindest most generous
9:21
people the people that give help to
9:23
everybody uh the empowerment of
9:26
understanding if you're that person if
9:29
you're mom or a teacher or a first
9:32
responder or United States veteran
9:35
people like these people who give a 100%
9:38
uh help to
9:40
everybody uh go ahead and realize that
9:43
through
9:44
gratitude through your capability of
9:46
finding the light the love and the
9:48
lessons in your giving you will be given
9:51
even more and when you realize what
9:55
you're given when you elevate that
9:56
awareness through gratitude of what
9:58
you're given and I want you to remind
10:01
remember and recollect what you're a
10:03
part of a unified abundant more than
10:06
enough system of more than enough of
10:08
everything for everyone and remind
10:10
yourself that you're
10:12
worthy of everything you're
10:15
given and therefore you will receive it
10:18
when you realize the value add of
10:21
receiving it and your worth of receiving
10:24
all that you're given and then beyond
10:27
that in this value value ad system not
10:30
the Zero Sum game that most people live
10:32
in trading and negotiating giving and
10:34
receiving and expectation of the more I
10:36
give I more I receive you will be very
10:39
confident to know that upon awareness of
10:43
all that we're given and worthiness of
10:45
receiving it comes the power of asking
10:48
for more and so instead of giving
10:51
everything and feeling shameful about
10:54
receiving even more than everything we
10:56
now we give more we're given more
10:59
we're worthy of receiving more and we're
11:02
confident of asking for more than more
11:04
now we're giving more than more giv more
11:07
than more receiving more than more and
11:09
again asking for more than more than
11:11
more and you see that everyone that
11:14
endear this philosophy will end up with
11:17
more than enough of everything for
11:19
everyone and for me that's where the
11:23
Nuance the skill set of gratitude to
11:26
find the light the love and the lessons
11:27
and everything that we give helps to
11:30
facilitate not only the worthiness of
11:32
receiving it but also the understanding
11:35
of abundance the value ad of asking for
11:38
more yeah and I think that's one of the
11:41
the greatest things about like when I
11:42
was in uh around you watching setting
11:45
back and observing is that this natural
11:47
like um magnetic thing that people have
11:50
around you and and you you project that
11:54
back like you get you literally give
11:56
back the exact same thing and people are
11:58
kind of drawn to that sort of sort of
11:59
thing you know I'm just curious like was
12:01
this something that did it come out of
12:03
that moment with your wife or was this
12:05
something that has kind of always been
12:07
when you were little you felt this but
12:09
then you kind of suppressed it but was
12:10
there a catalyst that brought that out
12:12
of you like where where did you unearth
12:14
that ability to do
12:16
that it's a paradigm shift so I think
12:19
all of us in varying degrees at a
12:21
Quantum level which is a genetic and
12:24
energetic inheritance uh at a Quantum
12:27
level we feel that throughout our lives
12:31
now we all interfere with it in varying
12:33
degrees and varying levels and we're
12:37
most of us fall into the Trap as I did
12:40
of trying to distinguish and I know you
12:42
did this too Jason to distinguish the
12:45
traumas uh whether it be past life
12:47
traumas or childhood traumas or normal
12:50
life traumas of almost dying or you know
12:54
all the different things that have
12:55
happened to all of us right instead of
12:58
exploring in uh every day utilizing the
13:03
majority of our time trying to explore
13:06
what we actually are afraid of from
13:08
those traumas or the uh effect of those
13:12
traumas I've come up with a simple
13:14
paradigm shift in solution that says
13:17
there's an instant and obvious way to
13:20
clear that interference or dissipate or
13:23
dissolve that interference and it's the
13:25
instant and obvious is the reaction to
13:28
fear regardless of what fear is and why
13:31
fear is so instead of saying you know I
13:33
was molested when I was nine therefore
13:36
I'm super angry at everybody and
13:38
everything and when I'm put into this
13:40
situation it evokes that anger and
13:43
therefore I'm going to spend days weeks
13:44
months and years accelerating in the
13:47
wrong direction or interfering with my
13:49
higher self or this feeling that you
13:51
said did I have at a young age I simply
13:54
say I'm angry or I'm offended or
13:58
separative inferior Superior anxious
14:00
frustrated guilty resentful worried any
14:03
of these feelings and I say to myself hm
14:06
this is an instant
14:08
feeling uh it's obvious that I'm pissed
14:11
off I really don't give a what
14:14
childhood trauma caused the fear that's
14:16
creating this interference of my higher
14:18
self so now I get completely logical and
14:22
pragmatic and say every time I'm worried
14:24
or angry or frustrated or offended it's
14:28
instant and obvious I'm just going to
14:29
work on not being that way and getting
14:31
back to Center so that I can enjoy the
14:34
omniscient all powerful and all knowing
14:36
uh that I'm part and parcel to and I'm
14:39
going to stop trying to discover
14:42
sometimes something that's uh incapable
14:44
of discovering uh instead I'm just going
14:47
to go with the obvious in the instant my
14:49
reaction to fear and dissipate the
14:51
amount of time I spend in the reaction
14:53
to fear and so for me that practice has
14:57
evolved where I have have this uh
15:00
attraction you can call it I also have a
15:03
perception I also have a responsibility
15:06
equating up into a an accountability in
15:09
my life to be in control of it by being
15:12
in control of the amount of time that I
15:14
spend reacting to fear and I spend less
15:16
time reacting to fear than most human
15:18
beings therefore I have more information
15:21
more energy more light more lessons and
15:24
more love than most people that's great
15:27
and I think everybody needs to rewind
15:29
and listen to that again you know and
15:31
and understand you know what Dave's
15:32
putting out there is is exactly that
15:34
like your your reliving past that was
15:37
already predicted bringing it to the
15:39
Future and you're expecting to get
15:40
further and you're you're not you're
15:42
just going to keep churning in your same
15:43
crap and uh that's just that's just
15:45
solid awesome advice um I know we're
15:48
getting close to time but I do have one
15:49
last question for you so um I'm just
15:52
curious what was the best piece of
15:54
advice that you never listened to
15:57
whether it was your own or somebody
16:01
else's yeah um I know this is going to
16:04
be silly no but it is the best piece of
16:08
advice it's
16:10
uh that you don't know what you don't
16:13
know and it was pertaining to me telling
16:16
my father uh that I never would gain
16:19
weight uh I I had difficulty gaining
16:22
weight um and so I I had to eat at
16:25
midnight when I played football in
16:26
college I uh had had a diet up until
16:30
recently of five or 6,000 calories a day
16:32
and I couldn't understand uh why I
16:34
started gaining weight but I just didn't
16:37
listen to my dad when he said look you
16:40
need to have control of your diet
16:43
because eventually you will gain weight
16:46
and what the lesson was that I just
16:48
didn't listen to and it applied to being
16:50
a father it applied to getting married
16:52
it applied to gaining weight and it
16:54
applies to other things that can't be
16:56
explained until you get to experience it
16:58
s and the lesson is hey buddy you don't
17:02
know what you don't know and where it
17:04
became most dangerous was with the
17:07
people that I love the most uh because
17:11
if you don't admit you don't know what
17:13
you don't know the advice that you're
17:15
going to give to the people that you
17:17
love the most because you will be more
17:20
afraid for those people than you are for
17:22
yourself is going to be really shitty
17:24
advice because it's going to be based
17:26
out of fear and until you reach a level
17:29
of radical humility with your children
17:31
and your friends and your family that
17:33
you love more than you may even love
17:37
yourself that you love them and care
17:38
about them until you realize you don't
17:41
know what you don't know and from that
17:43
position of radical humility give advice
17:46
with the ignorance humility not the
17:49
ignorant arrogance of fear telling our
17:51
children you got to go to college you
17:53
got to get this job you got to PR no
17:55
I don't know uh but what I can
17:59
share with you is the experiences I've
18:01
had and the lessons that I've derived
18:03
from those experiences so that maybe you
18:06
can make better choices by learning from
18:08
the dummy tax that I have paid from not
18:12
knowing what I don't know and I wish I
18:14
would have taken that advice from my
18:16
father uh that hey buddy you don't know
18:18
what you don't know uh I would have
18:21
saved myself uh a lot of years of
18:23
unhealthy eating uh and gaining weight
18:27
that I now at 56 by have under control
18:30
because I realize uh whether it becomes
18:33
to diet or parenting or marriage I just
18:36
don't know what I don't know and until I
18:38
experience it nobody can explain it to
18:40
me they can share their experiences in
18:43
their lessons but they can't explain to
18:45
me what it's like to be married what
18:46
it's like to have kids what it's like to
18:49
get older and lose your metabolism these
18:51
are things that you just don't know and
18:54
that's the lesson I'd love to share with
18:56
everyone that's wonderful man you know
18:58
Dave just want to just take a moment and
19:00
just you know just tell you thank you
19:02
for what you're doing I mean I really
19:03
appreciate the fact that you know I know
19:05
you're out there you're making TV shows
19:07
you're you're you're doing these meetups
19:09
you're you're out there inspiring people
19:12
to see the best of themselves and I
19:14
think that what goes along with that is
19:17
just the genuine caring for another
19:20
human being and I just uh I know you
19:22
probably hear it a lot but I just want
19:23
to like say for me to you like how much
19:25
I appreciate that you're doing a hell of
19:27
a job of being a human um I know it's
19:29
not easy and some days even those of us
19:31
that feel like people think we have it
19:33
all together we have those rough days
19:34
too um and how normal it is to have
19:37
those days and I think um I just want to
19:40
just make sure that uh you're well aware
19:42
of that even on those days where you
19:44
feel like people aren't paying attention
19:46
um they are and you're doing an awesome
19:48
job and uh I just really uh celebrate
19:50
you and thank you for the impact you're
19:52
having and the hope that you're
19:53
providing to everybody else and uh I I
19:56
truly look forward to all the stuff in
19:57
the future
19:59
yeah yeah I appreciate that and if I can
20:02
I I would love as you know to offer your
20:04
community my book sure I sign my book I
20:08
I I pay for the book I pay for shipping
20:10
uh there's absolutely no cost at all uh
20:13
if everyone would just email me directly
20:16
I do answer my own emails very cryptic
20:19
or templated uh if it's like hey I want
20:21
a book I have a templated response uh to
20:24
give you that but I do look at it I know
20:26
who you are and I read your message is
20:29
uh so if you can email me and put it in
20:31
the notes David dz.com David dz.com uh I
20:37
will tell you that that message from you
20:40
is well received because uh and I might
20:43
choke up talking about it but this was a
20:45
morning for me uh as I have my TV show
20:48
and I'm doing a Meetup and a meetings
20:51
and you know I have the VIP dinners and
20:54
then I'm going to Limitless with my lead
20:56
and quick and goggin and you know a full
20:59
Delta Center of people uh that a
21:03
relative close to me is having a surgery
21:06
uh on Friday and you talk about it's uh
21:11
not easy sometimes yeah uh making those
21:14
commitments and then having uh to
21:17
prioritize and and I had to have a
21:20
conversation with myself about hey I'm G
21:24
to cancel everything if you need me and
21:27
that's a difficult uh thing about
21:30
believing uh in doing good and being
21:33
there and prioritizing the right people
21:36
and you know need needless to say uh I
21:39
uh am grateful that the person uh
21:42
received my offer uh to cancel
21:44
everything and to be with them uh during
21:46
their surgery and uh I think they value
21:49
my mission over me being there and and
21:53
that was Unconditional by them but it's
21:55
not easy sometimes and you know there's
21:58
a lot people that may not see the
22:00
sincerity and 10% of the people are
22:02
going to hate you no matter what and uh
22:04
that's a great Epiphany to have because
22:07
they don't bother me anymore because I
22:08
know it's just math yeah uh but I
22:11
appreciate the recognition of that I I I
22:14
I do my best I learn lessons and I have
22:16
fun and I want other people to do the
22:18
same but sometimes it's hard and this
22:20
was one of those mornings that it was
22:22
hard so to uh hear you uh acknowledge
22:27
that means a lot to me me and that's why
22:29
you and I resonate with one another and
22:30
you're part of my neighborhood and I'll
22:32
come back whenever you need me and I'll
22:34
keep inviting you not obligating you to
22:35
come visit me we're going to be in tons
22:38
of the Cities so hopefully I'll see you
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in New York and make it worth your while
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on May 13th thank you so much David
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dz.com be more interested than
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interesting be kind to your future self
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and do good deeds awesome thanks dve and
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I will make sure that all of your uh
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links and everything are in show notes
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and all stuff like that but guys
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seriously Reach Out get this book it's
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great it's wonderful um and you know
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like Dave said there's no strings
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attached it's just spreading a good so
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thanks Dave safe travels to you my
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friend and I will see you soon have a
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wonderful day
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man thank you you see
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