Episode 25: Bad Bunny Superbowl Halftime Show

In this episode, we dive into an extended and thoughtful conversation about the controversy surrounding Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl Halftime performance. Rather than reacting emotionally, we break down the moment from multiple perspectives and explore why it sparked such strong reactions across the United States and around the world.

Was it culture? Politics? Art? Expectations? We unpack it all in an open, honest, and respectful dialogue - true to the spirit of The Modern Latino Podcast.

We invite you to listen in, reflect with us, and share your thoughts. Your voice matters in this conversation.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Welcome to the Mar Latino with your host Gene and Ivan. We are back. What's going on, bro?

SPEAKER_02 0:50

Hey man, what's going on with you? How you been?

SPEAKER_01 0:52

Doing alright, man. Doing alright. Just uh wow. Uh after that Super Bowl game and the week, or was it week or weeks following? It's been a it's been a little crazy. Especially, especially since I didn't hit anything on my numbers, bro. It's getting a little upsetting after 25 years of playing this thing and never hitting anything.

SPEAKER_02 1:10

Well, that's why they say don't gamble. You need the gambling hotline number.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

I I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna follow it this time.

SPEAKER_02 1:17

None of my boxes hit either, and I was in a couple of pools, but you know, you gotta be in it to win it, and I still think being in the pools is better than like the regular lottery, you got better chances.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Yeah, I mean, because I mean ultimately it comes down to one in a hundred, right? It's a hundred squares. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But it's just those numbers, man. Like once you get numbers, and if they're like numbers that you know usually don't appear in the score, you're done. Yeah. You're done even before the game starts.

SPEAKER_02 1:43

See, but that's why I do like because people say that the last game, the Seahawks versus the Patriots, they said that you know it was a very big like defensive affair, right? Seahawks, uh, their defense was crazy good. And when you're in a pool, you want to see like the score change, you know, even if it doesn't mean that you're gonna win it or whatever, you just want because you just never know. So it's nice to see like three-point attempts or you know, going for the extra kick. Like you like all those opportunities to see the score change. I think that's the fun of watching the Super Bowl when you have um like a pool going because it's like, yeah, you want to see a really good game, but at the same time, you never know if you have a chance to win. And with these pools, there's so many opportunities, you know, it's all it's all fun, you know. So I don't know. I just don't like the low-scoring affairs on the Super Bowl because uh because of the pool aspect of it.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

Yeah, I mean, I I like defensive games, uh, because I like to see you know the teams beat each other up, but to your point, yeah, like if it's going to be in a pool and and you're waiting for a number or some activity to happen, yeah, it's not really gonna happen. And that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, if you have uh certain numbers, most likely they might not come out, especially if it's a defensive game. Yeah, you know, but it is what it is. What can I do, man? So I'm broke right now. So you're uh you'll be you're gonna be buying me dinner for the next couple of weeks.

SPEAKER_02 3:02

I'm broke too, bro. I got I got two kids, a dog, and a mortgage. Oh man, I don't want to hear that. So, yeah, you know, the other excitement of the Super Bowl, we we have to definitely talk about is the Bad Bunny halftime show.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

What?

SPEAKER_02 3:16

The halftime show.

SPEAKER_00 3:17

What was that?

SPEAKER_02 3:18

Bad Bunny.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

I was watching I was watching the All-American ones. I don't know what you what do you what do you talk about?

SPEAKER_02 3:24

Don't even play with me, brother. Do not even play with me. Oh man. Yeah, you know, I felt a certain way, man, because you know, even with the Modern Latino podcast, when Bad Bunny dropped his album that evening, we were we were actually recording and we were talking about it. I had heard the album and I just knew it was gonna be a fantastic hit. It was just chock full of so much good, you know, good stuff. And it felt good throughout the entire year, just kind of seeing it catch fire and and seeing people like really get into it. Obviously, then you know, a couple weeks, was it a couple weeks ago he won the Grammy for best album, which I think was a really cool validation of just kind of like how wonderful the album was, and uh and the fact that he was I think the first Latin artist to win that, I guess with like an old Latin, uh, old Spanish album. Yeah, that you know, that means a lot. And so for me, I've been a bad bunny fan, you know, and anyone who listens to the podcast knows, you know, I've been talking about it. We you know, we went to the concert in Puerto Rico this summer. I'm just you know, I've been to uh let's see, three of his concerts. You know, I'm I'm a big fan. And it was uh it was just a it was definitely a little frustrating hearing all of the negative comments around Bad Bunny when the NFL announced that he was going to um to do the halftime show. And you know, there's there's lots of different I shouldn't say lots, but there are multiple elements that you can look at it from. The NFL is a business, they are trying to expand their programming, their business outside the US, and Bad Bunny is a global mega superstar, some would say the beg the biggest global star today. And you know, it makes sense. It makes sense for you know for them to kind of engage him to do the halftime show. The other thing that I thought was interesting, if you think about it, is that Bad Bunny is actually Puerto Rican, and Puerto Ricans are American citizens. And I felt like I felt like you know that was getting lost in a lot of the conversations and it and it was just eye-opening to see how many people didn't even know that Puerto Ricans were Americans. And this is something I've encountered my entire life, you know, when you when you you know I've worked in corporate America, just in like many different spaces where you talk to people from different backgrounds and they don't know it. Now, I'm not expecting that everyone would know that stuff, right? Like, just like I don't know everything about you know whatever cultures, but I don't know, like, you know, I I have a lot that I'm gonna say to it, but I'm not I'm not gonna like just use up all the time right now just on me. I want to hear your viewpoint as well. But what I thought was, you know, what I thought was immediately transparent to me was like the reaction of like that what your joke about the turning point USA doing their own concert, that was I thought telling. Now I look at it from a cultural standpoint and I'm just like Bad Bunny's show was not divisive. People were saying, Oh, the guy's a tra uh what do you call it? Uh cross-dresser, he's anti-American and all this stuff. You know, anytime he said anything bad or what they would say is bad, like anti-USA, it's in the papers. But whenever he says something good, they don't put it in. Like when he was at the Grammys, he was talking about like love, not hate. When he did the Super Bowl show, he ended it by saying God bless USA. And then he had that same message about you know, love can, you know, is stronger than hate, whatever that that board was on the billboard. I didn't hear no one talking about that in like you know, the mainstream media really, like I'm talking about like the right, you know, what is it, like the conservative media? No one said it. And in every other show, you know, where they say God bless USA, they would be like saying that stuff. And I felt like the show was an invitation, if you look at it from a political standpoint, it was an invitation to learn about the Puerto Rican culture or Latino culture a little bit, but it was also an opportunity. If the politicians were serious, it's an opportunity for them to summarize what being an American is all about. What I mean by that. So Bad Bunny is an American, he's a Latino. To me, it shows that if you come to this country and you're a legal, you know, legal citizen, you get citizenship or whatever, doesn't matter where you come from. Someone like Bad Bunny, who was at one point like uh what do you call it, like the bagger, the bagger at a supermarket, like he bagged groceries, and he made it all the way up, worked his way up into the music business, which is not an easy business, to become a global superstar. Any immigrant from any background, if you come here and you work hard, you become a citizen, you can achieve success. And I don't know why the politicians didn't like take that and make that the message. Instead, they used it as an opportunity to divide people instead of bringing people together. And honestly, hopefully, I hope that they low, I hope they lost a lot of votes because of it because I think that it was really an opportunity that you know where they could have changed the story, given like all the stuff that's happening with like ice and all that stuff. They they miss an opportunity to bring people together and rewrite, you know, the direction of where we're heading in this country. They missed uh to me, they missed a mark on that. So Goodford Turning Point USA, to me, they looked at this as a marketing opportunity, just like the NFL, they're a business too. And they said, Hey, we know that people, there's certain Americans who are xenophobic and maybe ignorant, and they have those viewpoints. And they said, Hey, let's put on a show to capture all these dummies. And I don't mean to insult anyone, but when in in the way that they did that, that also showed you know lack of a lack of tolerance and ignorance that that I think you know was eye-opening for many, many people. And where there may have been independents who were like on the fence about certain stuff, you know, I don't I don't think that they are anymore. They definitely aren't. In my own, you know, in my own personal discussions with people, you know, definitely a lot of people have changed the way that they think about stuff. And um, you know, I have more to say about it, but what do you think?

SPEAKER_01 9:12

All right. No, so look, as a big football fan, I really didn't get into the whole thing with whether you know, but Bunny was gonna perform or anything. I I just never really care about none of that nonsense. If if you look at it, and I looked, I to be honest, I saw both shows. Um, I had both of them going because I wanted to see. I mean, you can't comment on you know which one's better or whatever, or what was going on if you are not watching both, right? This is not the first time that there's ever been different types of shows going on in the in you know, at halftime. You've always had like the puppy bowl and lingerie bowl, and you had all these things where you would have to choose to see which one you want to watch. So, as far as like, oh, it's anti-Hispanic or whatever, I I didn't even see it like that. You know what I mean? Now, I've seen videos from the actual Super Bowl where I wasn't happy about the actual bad bunny uh take. Why? Because if I'm paying$10,000 a ticket to go watch the Super Bowl and to be entertained during a halftime show, the last thing I want, bro, is to have to look at the big screen to see what the hell it is that's actually happening. Because if you saw, man, the the setup that they had there, it was like a corn maze. And unless you're watching from home and the the camera's actually, you know, showing you everything that's going on, if you're on the stadium, bro, you're not seeing anything. All you see is like this grass, and and you don't know what's happening inside there. So you would have to look at the big screen just to see what the hell the whole thing is all about. So I didn't like the actual performance or the the uh the setup that they had there. I did not like it, especially if I was at the game, which I wasn't. So I'm I'm giving you the different takes in what I see. So I didn't like it in that sense. The show in itself on TV, yeah, it was entertaining, it was cool. You know, I st as a fluent speaking Spanish individual, I still don't understand what the hell that guy is saying when he's singing. But that's just I just don't understand it. You know what I mean? And it uh, you know, port, you know, the Puerto Rican dialect as compared to in Colombia or Spain or whatever, it's there's little differences. Of course, Spanish is Spanish, but there are different dialects. I didn't understand it, but to be honest with you, the the bad bunny music for me is all about the beat and rhythm, and that's it. I care less what the hell the guy is saying. You know, this is where you know we don't see eye to eye because some people will listen to the music and they just want to hear the message that's coming out of it and all that. I could care less, man. You know what I mean? If the song is good, it's good, man. If it's gonna make you dance, it's gonna make you dance. If it's, you know, if it doesn't, it doesn't. I mean that that's pretty much it. But it's interesting what you said, uh what you were talking about, how people didn't know that you know Puerto Ricans were uh American or citizens. And this is where I've had this issue uh discussing this with you uh a while back. This is where it comes back to the destruction of history, and what I was telling you the way you know the the the liberal viewpoint today, or I wouldn't even just say today because it's changed a little bit, but during like the uh the the George Floyd and all that, taking down statues, removing you know, historical pieces, all this stuff. This is where I was saying that whoever's doing that are a bunch of nuts, a bunch of dummies who have no idea what it is that's going on. Because if you're talking about how that we don't ourselves know who an American citizen is, whose fault is that, man? The schooling today, they're not teaching all these things that they're supposed to be teaching. Like, why wouldn't you want to teach all the things that have happened in the past? Why don't you uh teach about the history of the United States to include Puerto Rico being a US territory where they're you know where where people are citizens and all that? If you don't teach that in school, all the dummies of today that are that are speaking the way they do, and maybe they really don't know, and I think it is that they don't know because they're not being taught this stuff, they don't know that uh a Puerto Rican person is a US citizen, and then they start with that. But then on top of that, then they mix the ice thing with the Puerto Rico, which you can't. I mean, you know what I'm saying? It's two different things. It's you know, it's just that there's there's no connection there whatsoever. But the whole thing with the bad bunny, and I know you were talking about like the message and and what he was saying.

SPEAKER_02 13:57

Um I haven't got I haven't I haven't talked about that.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

Oh no, no, I'm just saying in regards to you know, God bless the United States or uh, you know, the messages on the football or whatever. With with everything that's going on today, man, people look at it as like, all right, so you're gonna say God bless America and I love all these people, and then that's gonna be enough to, you know what I'm saying? Like to to view it as you know what's going on in in the world, you know what I mean? And and they and people just don't want to see that, uh, especially in the NFL, where I know the NFL is trying to go global because obviously I even been to London to watch a football game out there. I know they they're in Spain now and Brazil, they're Germany, they're everywhere, and I know they're trying to compete against soccer, you know, and soccer's international, man, you know, so it's it's it's a different dynamic. NFL really isn't like that, man. You know what I mean? And it's it's not like you, you know, when you go look at the NFL, it's not like you're getting players from Ireland, from Spain, from everywhere coming to play in the NFL. It's just not like that. It's an American sport. And I get it, it's a business, and they're looking to go outside of the United States and all that, and you know, make more money. But the people that were looking at it in regards to as an American sport, they want, you know, whatever, uh celebrities here, musicians, or whatever. I mean, it doesn't even have to be a musician to perform, right? There's there's been other things. I I think I've told you a long time ago, man. I remember uh NFL halftime show where it was just a group of musicians, they were like um Steinway pianos, and they the whole and the whole halftime show was you know, these great piano players playing on Steinways, and it was all beautiful. It was it it was cool, entertaining, and all that. But it's just almost like a marching band, right? You go to see the marching band, you did not just listen to the old days.

SPEAKER_02 15:51

In the old days, it was just marching bands.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

No, no, I'm just saying that, but like even to this day, you go to an NFL game, right? I'm not talking about the Super Bowl, but an NFL game, you're gonna see marching bands still uh during halftime shows. You know what I mean? And it's it's not just that you're listening to them, you know, play the their instruments, they're also marching, they're creating designs on the field, and they're trying to entertain the people too in that way. And so, like for me, again, if you if it's going to be something like that, I just want to be entertained that way. You know what I mean? I don't get into the messaging that the person's gonna come. I could care less about that, man. Like, you know, it's it's like last year, who was it? Kendrick Lamar, right? And I was speaking to a lot of people after that game, and they're like, oh, you know, the the black messages, and I'm like, why has it got to be in a in an NFL game? Why does it have to be about the black message? Oh, you wouldn't get it, and this and that. And then now is the Hispanic one bags money. Oh, is he he you was talking about the message and and this and that? Nobody, nobody cares about that stuff, man, especially on a football game. Like, we don't have time for uh messaging and all that. There's other opportunities somewhere else to be doing that. Um and that's the funny thing. Well, guys, I'm just saying that for me when I'm watching this, I'm I'm not interested in all that stuff. I just want to watch the game, look at my numbers, you know, listen to some music if if it's a musical thing, and that's it, you know. So I don't get really too into it. I'm just saying that in regards to everything that you're discussing, and what we were discussing because of the halftime show, I can see how all these people can have their different opinions and all that, and how they can view it, right or wrong, everybody's entitled to their opinion. You know, that's that's pretty much what it is. But I yeah, I I can see I can see it both ways of how you would take it. Like, you know, all you know, you know, people don't know the culture, or he's just trying to expand on on the messaging and all that. And and that's well, that that's that's fine, you know. I mean, I I I understand, but I could also understand how other people view it too.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

Everything you said makes sense, right? And like you said, like I can understand another person's opinion. You're just one person, that's your opinion. And also regarding the Super Bowl setup, the weekend also when he did his, he did like a similar thing when he was walking around. That's not the point. I think like you know, Super Bowl shows, there's always gonna be a bad seat in the house. So you do have to look up at that TV, right? But but I see your point about like you're spending money, you want to make sure you get a good show. I don't think the issues that people were saying about Bad Bunny in the beginning was hey, he's gonna have grass on the field, it's not gonna be a good show. That's not what they were saying, that's not what they were talking about from the beginning. The other thing that you had mentioned about people not knowing that American that Puerto Ricans were Americans because of history not being taught in school, that's a little bit of a cop out for me. And I'm not saying you're you know, I'm not saying that you're pushing that, I'm saying that these people who don't know this stuff and saying, Oh, we need to learn in school, I think that's a little bit of a cop out because that doesn't excuse the behavior they're doing. That could be a good thing. And I know, and I know that's and I know that's true because think about the stuff that the you know black Americans have gone through in terms of segregation and all the stuff, they were American citizens. Why were they being treated that way? There's a reason why, right? Racism, that stuff exists. You know, for me, when I think about this a little bit more, so like we've already kind of covered like the business aspect of it, right? But you know, this is where I get a little frustrated because this is the president said, and now I'm not like trying to get political, but let me just read his notes, and I think I got and I think I copied it right. He said the Super Bowl halftime show is absolutely terrible, one of the worst ever. It makes no sense, is an affront to the greatness of America, and doesn't risk represent our standards of success, creativity, or excellence. Nobody understands a word this guy is saying, and the dancing is disgusting, especially for young children that are watching from throughout the USA and all over the world. This is a man who used to have the Miss America and Miss Universe pageant, right? Didn't he used to run this where he would have bring in these women from all over the world and have these shows in all of their countries, and in each of these shows they had salsa dancing, which was predominantly what you saw at the Bad Bunny concert. That was very revealing to me. And if you're someone who this isn't the point that I'm about that that I'm I'm going down, this isn't about policy, right? Someone could still have good policies, but be disrespectful and ignorant. And this is what I'm seeing from you know the words that this you know president is saying, and also many of the people, you know, on this side of, you know, let's just say on this side of the discussion. Because not all, I'm not gonna say like all you know conservatives feel this way. I'm not gonna say that. But this is really uh an issue about respect for each and every American, regardless of where they come from. That bunny is an American. So when you say that you, you know, you know, greatness of America, he's included in that. This is an American who pulled himself up from the grocery store, a grocery store job, to becoming the world's biggest superstar. He is an American, but yet you're gonna say doesn't represent our standard of success, creativity, or excellence. You don't get to where he was by not being creative or displaying some kind of excellence. And so this theme, this this kind of like this running theme is what I have an issue with, right? Like today, Americans enjoy Taco Tuesdays, Cinco de Mayo, they love going on cruises to the Caribbean, all-inclusive resorts, they love their Taco Bell. In America, we use words like hurricane, hammock, barbecue. These are all Taino words, by the way. So the message, it seems like you can enjoy your culture on our terms, right? And I think in the past, many of us were forced to accept this situation. And in a very recent past, and in many cases, many people today probably still feel that way, but no longer. I don't think that you have to feel that way. I think we are finally at a place where you can be proud of your culture and you can be authentic and bring your authentic self into whatever work situation or wherever you are and you can do that 100% of the time. No longer do we have to do and this is I don't know if this is a relatively new word, but code switching. And anyone, you know, most people know what code switching is, especially if you're like, you know, someone from a different, you know, different culture. I also think about like what the the situation I just described. Marco Rubio has how many jobs in Trump's administration? He's Latino. Everything that Trump just said 100% is an insult to Marco Rubio or any other Latino who works in Trump's administration. People who who work at Mar a Lago, those are Spanish words. That is like super offensive, but obviously Marco can't say anything. He's not going to say anything. So he's got to sit there grin and just kind of keep a quiet mouth and and just kind of like you know do what many of us have had to do for many generations. But you know technically we shouldn't have to do that anymore. You know, when I think about this situation I think it's important for everyone to really think about what's important to them in terms of values in terms of you know who their leaders are PS this kind of stuff these conversations have to happen at the local level like starting at home you have to have these conversations you got to teach your kids history like like what you said because if you don't if you don't that's where you're going to kind of run into these kinds of like complex situations where people feel like you know what what is going on like why you know why are we being treated this way and those days honestly to me are over like people should be proud of who they are regardless of where you come from and I think it's it is important to to kind of learn you know learn your history but it also I think it's also important to realize that you have to do more than just kind of like complain about stuff on in social media and things like that. Can I just make one more point about history?

SPEAKER_00 23:52

Go ahead real quick.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

So over the last week I've had a couple people say to me like why is it why Puerto Ricans are so like into themselves and you know it bro like we've had jokes I talk a lot of smack and I'm sure you must be like yo enough with this Puerto Rican dude but you can't really say so if you got Puerto Ricans in your family. If I I say it yeah you say so people like what's the big deal what's the big deal what's the big deal why why why we gotta rock the the banderas like why do we have to rock the flags on our uh what do you call that in the car? The uh on the hood of the car on the hood on the hood of the car or the rib the rear view mirror. Why you guys why do you guys have that right and so some people don't understand back in the day there was uh a law that was enacted in 1948 called the Puerto Rican Flag Act and it was enacted by the Puerto Rican legislature who was under U.S. territorial guidance right or governance and essentially what it what that act was it it made it illegal for Puerto Ricans or anyone to display the Puerto Rican flag sing songs about Puerto Rico or even really just kind of like talk about Puerto Rican independence because we are a colony I mean yeah it's a commonwealth but we're a colony so that law impacted many people and it was like targeting people who were like nationalist or even like in favor of independence movements and and violations could get you up to 10 years in prison fines or even both. And so what they were trying to do was they were trying the government at the time was trying to suppress Puerto Rican national party you know conversations or anyone who was pro-independence and that law was in effect until 1957 when it was eventually repealed so that is like a big example of how political repression and in this case in Puerto Rico's history impacted you know their society which is why Puerto Ricans and and to this day people are proud about the flag and they don't even know why but this is why that the culture has like you know this has been a big part of our culture is displaying that flag and having and having pride in it and so Bad Bunny in his music because people were saying you know I don't like the political messages and I was like well number one you said you don't understand a word he says so how can you tell me that you don't like the messages in in in his music and this stuff it can't be both ways right yeah I've said the same thing too yeah well I mean but but the point is valid for especially for people who don't speak Spanish so it's it's kind of like he he advocates for the Puerto Rican people in a way that is needed and and makes people feel proud and honestly if you actually translated the words of his of his show there was very little political messages there were some little hid hidden meanings on a cultural level one of the things that many people are talking about was the little kids sleeping on the chairs. All Latinos when they have big parties not everyone could rent out a hall or whatever and so you kind of jam everyone in and there's invariably always little kids sleeping across the chairs that were lined up along the the the the wall of the sala right the the uh the living room and kids would sleep there or there was always like a room where they threw all the coats in and the kids would sleep on the coats right like that was a like a fun thing so like he had like little messages like that that people picked up on that that uh you know for the the from the cultural standpoint they they appreciated it it wasn't like messages like you know kill you know do this do like it was not it was nothing like that and so that's why it gets frustrating and so you know for me as I you know I've I like try to you know educate people and stuff and I'm not even like the most I'm not like some expert uh you know Puerto Rican history like that I'm not but like I try to explain that kind of stuff because the ignorance is just it just kills me bro like it kills me like one thing like I'll give you an example and on the law enforcement side it's not really like this but it's a little bit different. Whenever like a police officer dies in like New York City or whatever um regardless of their background they always play the backpipes and I'm always like yo why the f the dude who died was like you know from India why are you playing backpipes like that doesn't make any sense right but it's my understanding that obviously back in the day when they formed the the police department it was mostly mostly Irish dudes and I guess that's what they played in those kinds of events and it had just become part of the New York City police department culture in law enforcement I don't know if they do that in everywhere but like over there and so they always play the backpipes and you always see it in the movies and you always you know in and TV shows that's how it is that's how it is and so and so that's how it is but so like to me if nobody is like saying yo I want to play like Ricky Martin if it was a Puerto Rican officer got a bit but like if nobody complains about that and they just accept it why is it that like in other cases like things cannot be like also accepted you know what I'm trying to say like the the level of ignorance is it just bothers me today because we have so much information we have chat GBT on your phone it's like Star Trek remember in Star Trek they have the little tricorders and they'd be like what's what's the atomic mass of this planet they they they whip out their little tricorder and they get all the information like that's today today you have the power you know the the power the computing power in your iPhone is more than like what was in like those early launches to like the moon the Apollo missions and stuff like all those computers we have more computing power in our phones and than those in those devices and so like in theory we should be more enlightened and yet it just doesn't seem like that listen I I totally get everything that you're saying man but the this this is where um this is a conversation a continuous conversation yeah I mean you can never just like finish or end a conversation or discussion and say and that's it.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Yeah no it's this is an evolving situation it's it's going to continue being like this one I mean but one of the things that if if you know when you start really analyzing everything and again I I see things in with a very open mind being of of a obviously of Hispanic uh origin. I understand it but I also was born here in the United States and I served in the United States military and you know I am very proud of being American and so like you know I look at things very openly I see your point I see or I see everybody's point. I I get it. But one of the things that I do not like in essence like even in the view for instance what's that oh the TV show the TV show that view is and and they were referring to like the the bad bunny because you know he obviously did say well you know I'm gonna be performing in whatever three months or whatever so you you better start learning how to understand Spanish or whatever right joke. And so whether it be a joke or not or whatever and obviously in the view it's not a joke you don't come to the United States and tell everybody here in the United States you better learn Spanish. No it's the opposite how about learning English you know what I mean and so when you start getting those little things in there whether it be a joke or not you're gonna rub people the wrong way in that sense right and and I do believe here in the United States you should learn English. It's not we should learn your language now that you're here. And and I truly believe that now guess what I speak both languages as a matter of fact I speak other languages too so I I don't see you know when when somebody comes here you know having to now all of a sudden saying yeah you know I don't I'm not going to learn your customs your ways you gotta learn mine I don't like that because you go to any other country it's not like that. So why is it that here in the United States now I gotta learn your language? Are you out of your mind? So you know it's like he was making a joke. Again that's what I'm saying I know what I mean I said I said that for him it was a joke you just explained it I'm just saying that like in shows like the view there's not they're not they're not saying it as a joke you know what I mean and they did just do things to create controversy anyway. But the point is for me I think this thing like completely on whatever whichever way you look at it it got blown out of proportion simply because for and again my opinion for me you know none of that stuff matters I understand that like you you could take it a little bit more personal hey you're Puerto Rican and you know he's talking about the culture over there it's like you know for instance he there were part of the show where he was standing on the uh light post right remember like the light post and obviously we we've discussed before and there has been a situation in Puerto Rico where like what is it the electricity what was exactly with the especially during the storm right the the electric company Luma has been given a ton of money like after hurricane was a hurricane so like a fraud situation I don't know if it's fraud mismanagement but you know they were given tons of money and they haven't built up the infrastructure of the island and so they still have blackouts that that occur all the time right all the time.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

And it's like what is going on with all the money where's this work being done and so like there are countless stories of like of like mismanagement and and things not getting done and so when he had the the polls up there that's what that was kind of like that's what it was for that.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

Yeah and so you know so he's he's um up there referencing that but again the average person they don't know nothing about Nanas though well that's like but like that that's like Americans not knowing about the water issue in Flint Michigan no no I just I understand I'm just saying it just doesn't make any sense to the person that was watching at the time if you don't have no idea so they're like I have no idea what that's about. Yeah so whether you're speaking about it or viewing it for that matter right so like it really doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_02 33:26

But that's why I give Bad Buddy credit because he has this global platform and guess what a lot of people are asking that same question that you just like mentioned and a lot of people are getting educated on it and that's what he does. He advocates and that's why I get mad because it's not like he's advocating for one side or the other at the end of that show he said God bless USA he's not advocating like politically he's advocating for the people of Puerto Rico his home and he's saying like when he gets the chance he speaks out on those things that are most important to the island things that are affecting his people and that's why that's why like I get kind of annoyed because you know you say I'm not saying you I'm saying people say oh he's like you know saying this but he's he's advocating for his people because he knows he can do it and he doesn't care. He he says I'll do I do what I want kind of like Trump in that respect right Trump isn't beholden to like you know uh those special interests right he for the most part ran and so like he says I don't owe anyone favors I just do whatever I want same kind of thing with Bat Bun he's made it he he's you know he's a superstar he's got all this money and so when he gets up there he's talking about those those issues that are important to Puerto Rican people and he's been doing it since day one so that's why it is a little bit annoying when you hear people just kind of like saying these things without trying to understand. And I don't expect everyone to under just because I'm Puerto Rican that I don't expect everyone to know my stuff. So whenever I get the chance someone asks me a question I take the time and I try to explain it to them. I try to you know again I'm not a this isn't something I have a degree in so I try to explain it to them the best way that I can to educate them a little bit more so this way they don't just have like a low level ignorant level of understanding and and when stuff is going on in other countries our very first podcast was talking about the Israeli and the the Palestinian issue right that was our very first podcast we try to take a an approach to understand what's going on in other countries other cultures understand what's what's impacting them so that when we can have conversations we can speak about it from a place of education and not like a place of ignorance right I think you kind of alluded to it not every American is like that clearly unfortunately not even is our president to be honest and I'm not you know I you know me I'm number one I always like I don't want to make this show political let's focus on like our messages and stuff like that but in this case to me he messed up he you know I would not be surprised if like you know because he was always like oh you know I got like big numbers with Latinos and like the African American I would not be surprised if the Republicans don't see numbers like that in the future unless they do some major kind of like disaster control damage control. Because I don't know those words I'm never gonna forget those words bro I'm never gonna forget there's nothing again I'm separating policy right like there's policies that I agree with I'm separating policy from the person and from a personal standpoint those words are very telling yeah I mean I mean you could look at it that way too I don't you know if you're gonna just look at it like that no that's just too personal for me you know what I mean right you do you you literally say it every time you're like yo as far you know for me for me like you speak from your experience as well I I do and I always like for me but I I look at the big picture I don't look at just one little thing like that you know because I just don't and and simply because of this each one of us you me we've said have said stupid things in the past I never say stupid things oh yeah yeah you no never you know what I'm saying and um and and so I'm not yeah but you know bro but I'm not the president of the United States no I understand what you're saying but I but also we've discussed also we're not gonna get too deep into this we've also uh have said that he's completely we can't even gauge or understand the way where he comes from because he's like you said he does his own thing you know what I'm saying and he's not beholden to anybody so he's gonna say his stuff but at the same time he has also proven and shown that the guy does care about everybody so you could like again I don't know we have a whole set huh I don't know about that oh man I mean I mean cares about everybody he's doing he's doing right by the country again policies different than policy is different than a person that's exactly the point that's the policy he's the president so he's doing his thing man and he's and he's helping everybody out that's just the way I see it again I know that's how you see it that's how you see it I I disagree and then when someone comes out with such a there's a hundred other ways and the fact that like the people in his administration let him post that bullshit sorry for cursing the fact they let him post that bullshit shows me he's not the typical politician which we already knew but it also shows me that he doesn't care because I don't know about that's a deeply offensive that is a deeply offensive statement that he posted suddenly salsa dancing is disgusting especially for young children watching throughout the USA and all over the world.

SPEAKER_01 38:29

Well I felt the same way man when Cardi B was up there doing the same thing and all these other people prior to where were where were statements about that? I'm sure there were statements.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

Ah man so you're gonna come on man you're gonna tell me salsa dancing is disgusting I mean come on I'm not gonna I I already told you like for me I don't I don't look at none of that you can't say you can't say look at the big picture and then not say the big picture is you're gonna tell me that salsa dancing is disgusting.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

No what I'm saying to you is that the big picture what I'm telling you for me the big picture is not just about one particular little thing of what he said because of salsa dancing or whatever. It's going to be it's going to be this it's going to be look and I'm just explaining to you for me again I I don't know how anybody else sees things is my is my pocket being affected are my kids getting what they're supposed to be getting and my And I agree with you.

SPEAKER_02 39:20

No no but listen I'm that's all I'm saying is when I when it's time to vote the last thing on my mind is gonna be like yo he equated salsa dancing to whatever something bad you know what I'm saying and I'm like uh you know what maybe that's true but damn man my 401ks are doing well so I gotta vote this way that might be true you know I'm just telling you that might be true for you and that might be true for me that might be true for other people but guess what there's a hell of a lot of young people in this country who are going to take offense to that there's a hell of a lot of uh Latinos who are gonna take offense to that there's gonna be there's gonna be non-Latinos who are immigrants who are gonna take offense to that because they also have their own dance traditions that are not and I don't want to I'm not like because I'm not see like I'm like I was gonna say that's not like line dancing that's not country music right and there's nothing I like country music and I like line dancing. I've taken line dancing classes right have you so yes I have wrong with you no but but this is the but this is the point I can like I'm open minded so like I I've tried I've tried the only thing I have not ever really tried is Irish dancing because my knee I have a bad I I couldn't do that man I couldn't do that but I love rubber dancing too quick I love river dance I love you know I love all kinds of music and and it does make me proud to be an American knowing that we have all these little facets and colors that make up America when I'm out in the street and I see let's just say a family from India doesn't have that I'm just gonna pick because because in my neighborhood there's you know this recently happened and I see a family going to the mall and I can see them dressed in their traditional outfits but then I see the little kids running out of the the target and they got like a toy or they're rocking like some like you know American kind of a a brand that's a little bit different. And you can see the kids being all happy and I'm like look that's that's what America is about because maybe wherever these people come from they don't have those opportunities when I see like the families when we like when we go to like amusement parks right and I see people from different cultures come and they're amazed and myself you you know as well like you know you're amazed and you say man this is like this is what America is about that is what America is about bro that inclusivity that's how you kind of continue our history and our history is changing our history is changing there's more Latinos every day in this country so you know so like I get what you're saying right but like I'm not gonna use that as a cop out to let these guys off the hook you know what he said was deeply offensive. And you know what I know but you know that's not the only offensive thing that he said and is he says offensive things to his own family members right like that's just the person himself but like in the past where I've heard people say things about like you know him and like you know I never heard the I never heard the guy say anything like that. Like it you know I always make up my own mind based off of what I actually learn hear see and this guy he he revealed himself to a lot of people and so again like I don't think there's people there's people online who have been to Mar a Lago who've been big time supporters and they've been they've been coming out against I'm not going to say their names because I don't know them personally so I'm not gonna put their names on blast but if you look there's big time donors who are like yo like I can't believe he said that like this is not who I believe that guy uh Jake Paul and Logan Paul Jake Paul came out with some bullshit as well you know talking some smack along these lines and then his brother came out and was like yo I don't you know everyone's entirely their opinion I don't I don't believe in what like my brother said even he came out because it's stupid bro I understand that makes you but you know what bro it's the same thing as all these other people saying the same the same thing in an opposite in a in a different way like I think it's offensive when you got a Chuck Schumer talking about how like people uh especially black americans they don't know how to get a birth certificate or they can't have an ID or whatever to go for what you know what I'm saying so like I agree and and and and that's the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 43:15

So I'm just saying like everybody's saying all kinds of crazy nonsense. So like for me like that's irrelevant. You know I get it. Personally listen personally for you in this particular case you took it a little bit more if this guy would have been Colombian I would have said the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 43:30

Bro whatever I'd be feeling the same way.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

And I would be feeling the same way too that's exactly the point I'm trying to make is you know what bro people say all kinds of stupid things and that's really it you know at the end of the day you know as long as my family's doing good or whatever if I'm investing properly or if I'm you know following the certain things I'm gonna do my thing anyway right it's just hard man like again this is like an a a continuous discussion where we can feed off each other and just say hey yeah you know I I I understand what you're saying and all that. Yeah, I don't really agree with that. I don't agree with this or whatever. We just gotta continuously keep doing that, bro. But I don't like I'm not I'm I'm not gonna be static and just say, oh, I hate this and that's it, or you know, I don't like it because of that. I just don't look at it like that. You know, I mean I it's it's bigger for me, it's a b a a bigger thing. But I do again, being a of Latino, I enjoy music, all kinds of music. I like I've said it, I don't understand what the hell he's saying 90% of the time. Not like I don't understand it a hundred, like 90% of the time, I just the way he sings or whatever, I just don't I don't get it. But I do see your point in regards to all the things that people have said, why they feel that way, the the uh the competition aspect of it for the different halftime shows and who should be there now. You know, at the we have no control whatsoever of what the NFL does. They don't even care either, because like even if people were out super outspoken, they're still gonna do their thing anyway. Because what you said, it's true, it's all about money, man. It's all about making as much money as possible, and that's it. But uh, yeah, I mean, this is one of these things, bro. Like, it's we gotta continually talk about it, and as long as we all understand and encourage each other to learn about each other, that's the best thing about it. But I don't feel hurt about any particular uh statements or anything that's going on out there. I just for me, we all need to obviously live together, we need to understand each other and all that. But at the end of the day, for me, if you you know, we can't mix a Super Bowl halftime show with a lot of the things that are going on here in the United States, too. You know, it's one thing two separate things. Yeah, it's two separate things.

SPEAKER_02 45:44

And let me just give you some let me give you some points, man, because you're trying to be all nice and stuff. And I ain't having it today, but listen here with it trying. Let me compare, let me compare because I want to talk about the turning point USA just to give the people who were who think that their viewpoint is the predominant viewpoint. The Bad Bunny Super Bowl halftime show, peak viewership, 128.2 million just in the United States on TV. Total online views within days, 4 billion social media views. Okay. The TP USA alternative show, 6 million YouTube peak. Alright, so 128.2 million versus six million and online views, four billion for bad bunny, twenty to twenty-one million views for the other alternative. So if you're in that other camp, you better fucking start learning to talk Spanish.

SPEAKER_00 46:39

Yeah, okay. And do me a favor, like go.

SPEAKER_01 46:42

Don't forget, don't forget that as far as with the views, there was a lot of people that left the channel on the way it was, bro. When they went to go eat and went to the bathroom and all.

SPEAKER_02 46:50

Nice try.

SPEAKER_01 46:50

Come on, man, stop.

SPEAKER_02 46:52

I'm not gonna support it, I'm not gonna support it because listen that that did not come from a place of love. I and I love it because they're always like about love and man. Again, I look at it from a marketing standpoint, marketing-wise, totally makes sense. I could see if you don't like that, then maybe maybe now they begin something new, kind of like what you said about the puppy bowl. Maybe now they will always I want to see that they always have an alternative view. So if next year uh a country singer comes on, does that mean then that we could that they're gonna put on like a Latino turning point USA show? Maybe you don't know. I mean, I'm just curious.

SPEAKER_01 47:26

I don't know, bro. Listen, again, you you're discussing you're you're bringing up.

SPEAKER_02 47:30

I'm I'm just talking, I'm just talking about what people are talking about, bro. And and yeah, like you know, it it it's hard to always a discussion. It's always hard to kind of like the difference kind of stuff, but you gotta do it.

SPEAKER_01 47:39

The difference between, I guess, the way we would come across it with each other here as compared to everybody else out there is they're either it's either black or white for them, and that's it, bro. And I don't that I do not believe we need to be able to discuss this stuff, yeah. Of course, and we need to be open-minded to everything. But the people that are not open-minded, man, screw them. You know, I I do that's exactly how I feel. Because don't come over here and tell me it has to be this way, it has to be. I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear that nonsense. You know what I mean? But I I mean, the one thing that I did say, which I'm gonna always hold true to, is here in the United States, man, you gotta speak English, bro.

SPEAKER_02 48:16

That's just the way that's uh Yeah, I feel like it's not the it's not even this United States, it's in the globe. In the globe when you go to other countries, everyone speaks English because that's the globality.

SPEAKER_01 48:25

No, no, I understand. But they but look, I agree with that. No one's going to Italy and say, hey, you gotta learn English. No, you gotta learn Italian.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

Yeah, but I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 48:34

I don't think anyone's ever, but no one's even disputing that. No, what I'm saying is when you hear comments. Now that was a joke. That was a joke. I'm again I'm not talking about him, but when you hear it in a situation where it's not a joke, like on the view, yo, I have a big problem with that.

SPEAKER_02 48:48

I didn't I didn't I don't I didn't see the viewers.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

Well, yeah, but trust me when I tell you, they said it. You know, so I'm like, come on, man, enough with with that. So that's the only thing that I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 48:57

Because I don't think aside from that host who is Puerto Rican, I don't know any of if any of those other ones speak Spanish. So I don't, I don't, I don't buy into that to me, but she's the but she's the one that says it. And here's the and here's the funny thing, and here's the funny thing. Like in Puerto Rico, people speak both languages. Like you got everybody, of course. No, you got some you got some people who who don't because you know where they live locally, yeah. Uh, but if you go to San Juan, everyone speaks both both languages. You can go to Puerto Rico and get along speaking English just fine.

SPEAKER_01 49:26

Yeah, like so.

SPEAKER_02 49:27

That's why like I that that doesn't hold water for me in in terms of like because that's not like that's not even like a position that anyone is disputing. Yeah, but if you're gonna look at from my standpoint, no, like of course this is America. You need and this is what I'm trying to say. Like, this is America, you need to be able to speak the language, but they're like some other countries. Like when I went to Brussels, no, they spoke like French, German, English, like they and they in their own like language, like so you know it's almost like they take a pride in speaking multiple languages because their neighbors around them are so close, you gotta you have to interact and you have to speak with them. I don't think it's so that's why, like in the United States, when if you see we're you know, we're so close to you know Mexico and and South America, Latin America, it makes sense to speak you know Spanish. I'm not saying Spanish should be the primary language, but in in the United States, if you tell me that you only speak one language, then to me that shows me that you're ignorant. Because when you're in school, they give you the choice to pick a language, and it's not like they're even saying you must learn Spanish. I know plenty of kids who speak French, Italian, like they pick all these other kinds of languages. I know. So if you're if you're a no, but if you're an American citizen and you've gone to school, especially these days, if you don't speak at least another language, then you're ignorant. And I'm not trying to be mean to anyone who doesn't speak, I'm just saying Bro, you know how many people go to school and still don't know how to speak English. I know, but but the point but the point I'm making is I'd go pick another language. We can't even speak English. That's on, but I'm just saying, if if you're one of those people who can't even speak English, then don't talk to me about this subject. Don't talk to me about Bad Bunny if you can't even speak English. Number one. Number two, sorry, I'm gonna talk to you. No, number two, number two, yeah, you need to acknowledge the fact that in today's day and age, you should speak another language. If you're living in the United States and you have to pick another language, my opinion, it should be Spanish. Doesn't have to be it doesn't have I'm just saying, my opinion. Now I know plenty of people who speak French. I think French is a honestly. I've taken French classes and I speak a little bit of French, not enough like Bradley Cooper, that dude. He was I saw him do an interview, it was crazy. So like I think you know, language is speaking multiple languages, and like my daughter speaks English, German, and Spanish. Right? Like, I think it's important to to like you know learn multiple languages, to your point. This is America, right? And you know, and if you don't, and if we're not like fighting for the things that are important for us, that's that's bad. And I want Americans to be able to compete in this global economy, and in order to compete, you gotta speak more than one language.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

Bro, I never said that you shouldn't speak other languages because obviously I speak other languages too. What I'm saying is if you came into the United States and told somebody, no, we're not gonna learn English, you gotta learn my language, that right there. I agree. I do not like it. And that's what that's what I'm talking about. Because the same thing, when I was in high school, I didn't when I took the foreign language, I didn't take Spanish. Why am I gonna take Spanish? Well, so I can get an easy A. I learned I learned French. Yeah, right. So I mean, of course, if you don't take if you don't take that extra language or you don't try to learn it, that's on you. But I'm not I'm saying that whatever country you're in, you're not gonna go into another country and say, nah, nah, nah, I'm here now, so you're gonna speak my language. That don't work like that, man. I'm not I'm telling you, I'm not down with that. So he if here we're in the United States, you could speak whatever language you want to speak, but you better learn English. Yeah, I agree. Not the opposite. You don't come into the United States and say, nah, I'm here now, so now you gotta learn how to speak German.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

I don't think anyone said that.

SPEAKER_01 53:01

So I'm all I'm saying is for somebody to say that, and I know you're saying that Bad Bunny said it as a joke.

SPEAKER_02 53:07

He was not talking about like he was not like telling me.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

And I get, like I said, I I I understand.

SPEAKER_02 53:12

So then why don't you say that he said God bless USA?

SPEAKER_01 53:14

I what do you mean? I just said I said that earlier. You didn't say that. I'm just saying, I'm saying you know what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

This is what politicians do. This is what politicians do.

SPEAKER_01 53:21

I understand that, but you know, for for us, again, I'm an open-minded person. I'm gonna speak and I'm gonna listen to you, and I'm not gonna again, I don't believe in black and white. Yeah, so that's not that what we're talking about, is really not even a discussion, just I mean, uh about us. It's about everybody outside of what the way we do it, because everything that I see, whether I read in the paper or hear in the news, via TV or online or whatever, it's always like a black and white issue situation, and I just don't like that, bro, because it just closes out the prospect for having a discussion, at least an intellectual discussion. You understand what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 54:01

Well, that's how they that's how they do things to kind of split people up to keep to keep like the uh the drama going, man. Anyway, this is a good conversation, man.

SPEAKER_01 54:11

It's crazy, it's crazy all the all the craziness.

SPEAKER_02 54:14

This is a good conversation, and I hope people are listening to it and they feel and I hope that they're feeling like you know, they should feel empowered, you know. Again, I'm of course I'm taking it from the Latino perspective, Puerto Rican specifically, but to me it's important to kind of cover these kinds of subjects because if we don't like stand up and support each other, no one else is gonna do it. And when you look at these kinds of situations, you know, number one, also have you know, give each other grace because like you can't just assume that someone has negative intent, maybe they just don't know. Maybe you just need to take the time to educate them, which means number one, educate yourself. But like, you know, I think we need to kind of give each other a little bit of grace. We need to try to have conversations just like we have right now. And and so you know, for our fans, if you've listened to us, you know, we you know me and my boy, we we don't always like see the eye to eye on everything. You know, there's many times I gotta educate my partner because you just don't know what the hell he's talking about.

SPEAKER_01 55:12

No, but that's why I said I just gotta hold back and I'm like, all right, let him have the limelight now. This guy does not know what he's talking about.

SPEAKER_02 55:19

Yeah, no, we you know we we do this, this is but this is how we are in real life, too. So, you know, we talk, we try to you know support each other and we try to you know talk about all the things that are important. So, you know, I think you know, in your own lives, just try to have more conversations and try to educate folks. And again, I this is my personal plug. If you're a Latino and you're out there doing your thing, you know, hold your head up high, be proud, because there's many, many Latinos that are out there breaking barriers, breaking down those doors, uh, you know, cracking those glass ceilings, and they're doing their thing, and there's no reason why you cannot do it as well, right? Don't don't make excuses for yourself. You can't say, Oh, um, you know, I can't do this because I'm Latino, there's the man that you know. No, there's plenty of people that are out there doing it. Sometimes you gotta struggle, sometimes you gotta sacrifice, and sometimes you gotta fight, but you gotta believe in yourself, and uh, and we all have to like support each other.

SPEAKER_01 56:12

Yeah, that's very true, bud. So this is just also just with that being said, that just goes for everybody, too. Not just Latinos, you know.

SPEAKER_02 56:20

I know, but that's why I said I'm I said I'm speaking from my side.

SPEAKER_01 56:22

Yeah, yeah. I mean, because I I feel the same way, uh, but I feel it for everybody, you know.

SPEAKER_02 56:26

Like I but this isn't the modern everybody podcast.

SPEAKER_01 56:28

Yeah, I understand that, bro. This is not the modern everybody podcast. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 56:33

So yeah, I gotta check in. All right, man.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

This is a great way. I gotta I gotta cut him off. Let me cut his mic. So, hey fans, thank you so much for listening to this episode of the Modern Latino Podcast. We hope you enjoyed uh this episode. Please make sure to check us out on our webpage, and we're actually doing some updates to it, but we can find us at themodernlatino.com, and you can also find us on Instagram. Our pages the modern latino podcast. You can also find us on all of the major podcast uh platforms like Apple Podcasts, Spotify, all of those. And if you want to send us an email, let us know what you're thinking. You can email us at infoinfo at themodernlatino.com.

SPEAKER_01 57:21

Uh yeah. No, thank you very much, everybody. We really do appreciate it. Um those emails are great because we get a uh an idea of what you guys are thinking, whether you are with us, against us, really doesn't matter. We want to tackle whatever issue pops up and uh, you know, with an open mind. That's exactly what we uh uh intended for this podcast to be. We are gonna continue doing that, and uh we hope that you guys follow us and uh you know engage in some open discussions with us. So we really do appreciate it. And I definitely appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 57:56

All right. So thank you, fans. Hope you enjoyed. Uh be on the lookout for our next episodes, and please just make sure to leave us a review if you go to Apple Podcasts or whatever platform you're on. Listen to the show, leave us a nice review, help us uh get up there. I think we last time we checked, we were number 21 on uh Latino Podcasts. That's what it was. Top top, yeah, we were top 30, so we were 21 on the on the on the 30 list.

SPEAKER_01 58:18

So we still gotta climb, bro. We gotta keep moving.

SPEAKER_02 58:21

Help us, help us get up the list. All right, fans. Thank you so much. Take care. Enjoy.