Blood Brother (8x5)

Berly and LA recap the season eight Supernatural episode, Blood Brother. Over drinks, they'll discuss lore, gore, and what they adore about the Winchesters and their adventures. Now, let's get tipsy!  CW/TW for violent and lewd commentary; listeners beware! 🔞

Summary: In the "Denim Wrapped Nightmares" podcast, hosts Berly and LA discuss the fifth episode of season eight, "Blood Brother," which aired on October 31, 2012. They praise the episode's visuals, writing, and character dynamics, particularly the relationship between Benny and Dean. They also touch on the historical evolution of vampire lore, from its origins in the 1700s to modern interpretations, including the concept of psychic vampires. The hosts express their enjoyment of the episode's action and drama, despite minor criticisms about the portrayal of the old man vampire.

Resources:

• https://supernatural.fandom.com/wiki/Blood_Brother
• https://www.buzzsprout.com/2076426/episodes/11887872-dead-man-s-blood-1x20

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Berly: 0:02

Voice, welcome to denim wrapped nightmares, Tipsy Exchange Podcast where we explore the supernatural series, episode by episode,

LA: 0:11

over drinks, we'll discuss the lore the gore and what we adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.

Berly: 0:17

I'm Burley and I'm a new fan of the series.

LA: 0:20

I'm LA, and I'm here along for the ride. Now let's get

Unknown: 0:26

Tipsy. Hello, LA, hey Burley. On the last episode, it was titled bitten Sam and Dean investigated a I was gonna say bizarre murder. Bizarre murder. I

Berly: 0:40

thought you were gonna say Missouri. I was gonna be like, where's that?

Unknown: 0:44

No, no, just a bizarre murder in a college town. The close on the tail of their suspect, they busted into an apartment, find two dead bodies, not all intact, and a laptop queued up some disturbing video footage. The footage began with Brian and Mike and Kate and the rest of the stories revealed through their eyes and recording, Sam and Dean become unknowing participants in a unique student film,

Berly: 1:10

because they were, they were flying under the radar so well, yeah. So after we had finished recording, I found my little notebook, and I actually had written down one note, a single note, about our last episode. And of course, I didn't mention it. I didn't bring it up during our recording at all, but my note was, I wonder why they didn't have Jensen direct this one. Why? Because he's hardly in

Unknown: 1:40

it? Oh, yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, it would've been a good one,

Berly: 1:44

right? I mean, don't get me wrong, I think it's great that they're challenging him to both star in an episode and direct. Like, that's awesome, yeah. But I was kind of curious, whenever it was literally the very next episode, Sam and Dean are hardly in it at all. I was just kind of like, Huh? Maybe he wanted the challenge. Maybe, yeah, maybe he was like, I really want to direct that scene where I get to tell an actress to step on me. Well, today's episode is titled blood brother. It's the fifth episode of season eight, and originally aired on October 31 2012

Unknown: 2:20

had one for for a Halloween episode.

Berly: 2:23

And I gotta say, off the bat, hands down, my favorite episode of the season so

Unknown: 2:27

far, so far. Yeah, I'd probably say so too. I loved it. Yeah,

Berly: 2:32

we open up in Eagle Harbor, Washington. We see Benny, and he's confronting another vampire named Quentin. And Quinton, Quentin's just sassy. And it turns out he, he helped murder Benny. What did she just say? Quentin, it

Unknown: 2:50

was like sounded fancier. I don't know. I don't

Berly: 2:53

know also and listeners, I'm just gonna go ahead and address it. La is in the mountains, so her audio is not as good as we normally like it to be. I'm going to try and catch her and ask her to say things again when it cuts out terribly. But I'm going to miss stuff. I'm going to forget we're recording for a show on occasion and just continue the conversation. So please bear with us. Yes, yeah, but yeah, Quentin, yes, and his hot pink button up shirt. Oh, and they're talking about Sorrento and the old man, and they're giving us, oh, just, I love the way they laid out the drama. Where I was just like, oh my god, well,

Unknown: 3:32

and I was like, the imagery there with Quentin's comment about him a bit he crawled out of God's ass, crawled himself out of God's ass. I was like, wow, okay, I haven't heard that one.

Berly: 3:44

And Betty was like, it wasn't God's ass, it was Dean's forearm. I liked it whenever he said, Oh, that's fine if y'all are gonna fucking kill me, because I know where I'm going, and I know who I'm going to see there. And then just decapitated him. Yeah. I was like, nice. And the way he turned around, it was like, ah, you know, ready to deal with the other two vampires that were behind it was a great intro. I was like, let's go. I was ready for a

Unknown: 4:11

brawl or a fight, but didn't see the head rolling coming. No,

Berly: 4:16

he did not waste any time. I was like, Okay, we've got our True Blood vampire diary, whatever, Nest drama episode, and I'm here for it, yeah, so I was liking that. So yeah, after we have this badass intro with Benny, Benny,

Unknown: 4:36

let me sit on your lap.

Berly: 4:41

Okay, so, yeah, same and Dean, they're in Enid Morgan, not Morgan. What the fuck LA, Oregon. You're talking about Missouri. I'm talking about Morgan. I don't know what's happening today, just all over the map, and they come into a motel room. What? Got a cute partition wall. It's an adorable little motel room. I'm just like, Oh, okay. Like, this episode felt like, to me, a marriage of crypkey era, gamble era episodes like, yeah, it's not as dark, it's not as gritty, it's not as art house. But we got some really cool shots. We've got the adorable motel rooms. The writing was phenomenal. Like, I just, I really liked this episode. I was, I was really happy with it. But yeah, they come kicking in the door, and they're going in guns blazing, going through the room. Turns out they thought Kevin was going to be up in here. Yep, he won't in there. He did pay for the room. I thought that was kind that's how they tracked him. So he was like, I'm gonna send y'all at a wild goose chase, but I'm gonna give you somewhere to stay for the night, you know,

Unknown: 5:47

yeah. But he's just, uh, keeps evading them. I wonder what he's doing, how he's doing it?

Berly: 5:52

Well, they said he's, uh, what did they say? They he's like a criminal Rain Man or something like that, yeah. And then Sam went, Well, he was in AP classes, and I died. I died. I was like, That was a good callback. That was a really good callback. I loved it. And just how matter of factly Sam said it. I also love that whenever they got in the room, like, within two minutes of realizing Okay, he's not in here, Sam is just like, Okay, I'm gonna have a beer. Like,

Unknown: 6:23

just like, Well, fuck this. Yeah,

Berly: 6:26

I guess we're here for the night. Yeah, Sam and Dean are being really irritated with each other because, you know, they've been chasing Kevin and just not able to find them and going back and forth. And then Dean's phone rings, so he answers the phone, and he's being all shady about it, like, hello, oh my God, oh I my signal is really bad. Let me go outside to have this conversation. Yeah. So he goes outside and he's talking to Benny. Benny is asking him for another favor. He's letting Dean know that he took on a group of vampires by himself. He's hurting. His legs aren't working so good at the moment, like he's in a rough spot and he doesn't have anybody else he can call. So of course, he calls Dean. I just loved how he's like, Can I get one more favor from you? And just the accent, oh, oh yeah. I loved it. Loved it. Dean is just like, of course, of course, I'm going to come help you. And I liked the little exchange between him and Sam. When Sam's like, you don't have any friends, where are you going? I don't understand. And Dean, you took off for a year. I'm asking for a day, like, let me go handle my shit.

Unknown: 7:34

He's really not letting that go. No, I don't

Berly: 7:37

think he's gonna let that go anytime soon.

Unknown: 7:40

Yeah,

Berly: 7:42

now we did get some feedback from one of our listeners, one of our Patreon members, actually, in response to us kind of talking about how it felt like Dean was breaking up with Benny in the season premiere. Do you remember that conversation? And she shared with us that he kind of was that this isn't something that would have occurred to you or I, because this isn't going to be reflective of either of our personal experiences. But she is married to a vet, a veteran, and so she was talking about that after they've been in an active war zone or something like that. Whenever military come back home, it actually is part of their rehabilitation that they're not really supposed to see each other very much. It can be triggering. It can be all these sorts of things. So it was honestly a really great depiction of two war vets having just come back from some crazy ass active duty and needing to separate each from each other. Okay, I see that I'm adoring how their relationships being depicted now that we have that background, because that's something that wouldn't have occurred to us. But yeah, so they were kind of having to break up. Yeah, interesting. I thought so. Well, Dean finds Benny and goes to his truck. I like his truck. It's old, beat up thing. But the

Unknown: 9:03

first time, I was like, He's going after some random truck. And then I went, Oh yeah, Betty's truck.

Berly: 9:10

Benny's truck. He got all up in Benny's trunk. I found his his stash of blood cooler, his little cooler of his blood up in there. And I loved the shot whenever Dean came down the stairs. I don't I'm not familiar with Docs, so I don't really know what was going on there, but he goes down into, we'll say, the doc's basement, because I don't know what else it's called. So he goes down the stairs. And I really loved how the camera did the reveal of Benny there as they showed Dean coming down the hallway, and then Benny was in the is that foreground, whenever it's closer? I think that's, yeah, foreground. I adored that there were a lot of shots in like hallways and things like that in this episode that I enjoyed. Just some interesting angles, interesting use of focus, foreground versus background, et cetera. Just. Visually, a really interesting episode. Well, back in the motel, Dean has given Sam the assignment of you look for Kevin like we don't know where he is, so we don't have a next step right now, I'm gonna eat this Toblerone and go help my friend. So Sam is on the laptop trying to figure out where Kevin could possibly be, and also decides to start doing a little bit of Facebook stalking of his ex. So of course, we get a flashback where we see that Sam is staying at a motel while the dog that he had injured is healing. Since he's staying in one place for a longer period of time than he's used to, he's kind of made himself at home. He's gotten to know the people who own and operate the motel, and now he's even gotten a job as the handyman, going around and fixing some stuff. So that was a little interesting background to kind of see how he was becoming part of the community. I jumped ahead. I got too excited, and so I jumped ahead. I skipped that part earlier. I wanted to talk about Dean finding Benny, because I just loved that scene. We do get another flashback, though, while Dean is helping Benny, we see them in purgatory doing a fight scene. It didn't do anything for the story. But you know what? I loved it. I loved that he was whistling that classical song. I love that Dean was looking like all aggro, and Benny had like almost a mischievous grin on his face while they were fighting those people. The juxtaposition between the two of them and how they were approaching the battle, Benny was almost entertained. Dean seemed like he was working some shit out, like I just it was a short little flashback. Again. It wasn't necessarily purposeful for the story, but I loved it. I would have watched more of that flashback. Like, give me, give me, like, a good 10 minutes of that. I don't care how long can be whistle, let me know I'd like to see it was a good time. Also, I'm just gonna go ahead and address like, the flashbacks. We get to see them with Castiel quite a bit, and kind of get to see the dynamic, dynamic between the three of them. I loved that too. Yeah, I love that. CASS he straight up said, like, you know, the question is, when you murder a monster in Monster afterlife, what happens to the monster? The question's not answered, but I feel validated that somebody else asked it, right? Because it's been bothering me. There you go, and Benny kind of talking about how Cassie is a beacon of light, you know, like your humanity was already drawing monsters in his is making it worse. Yeah, we're not gonna make it if we keep him with us. So it's so funny, because even though you can tell Castiel and Benny do not like each other, they're also on the same page. They also realize what's going on here. But Dean is the only one who's like, no, no, it's all of us, and he both my

Unknown: 12:49

boys, yeah, anywho back

Berly: 12:51

in the present Dean is very impressed with how quickly Benny cleans up and how great he looks. And you know what, I don't blame you, Dean, whenever he came out

Unknown: 13:04

of that, oh yeah, the shadow work in some of these shots of this theme were cool because it was like, very film noir where, you know, just the lights right across these eyes and that bit I like, I like the imagery in this scene, visually

Berly: 13:18

stunning episode from beginning to end. I was, I was all about it. I loved the shadow, like you're talking about in this scene, and that hint of blue. And Benny, he just looks so good. He just looks so Oh, he did Hello. He comes out. It's like he's all clean. He's got his suspenders on his pants, going put on his jacket. Just smirk and smiling. So he's explaining to Dean that he had come back to this nest and he was coming to take care of business. Basically, he was coming to get his revenge. They murdered the woman he loved, and he wanted to kill their maker, and they kept calling the maker old man, yeah. I was like, does he not have a name? No, he's old man, yeah. And then whenever they revealed to him at the end of the episode, I was like, what I felt kind of all day, yeah, no, that's like, I feel like, were y'all going for like, the Godric thing in True Blood, where it's like, because he's so old that he was just because our life expectancy and whatnot wasn't the same way back in the day, you know what I mean? So you just must have gotten turned, you know, so earlier. But he didn't have that. The Godric character in True Blood, I believed he was ancient in the way he acted. Yeah, I didn't believe that with this character. I was kind of like, how is this little shit not dead already?

Unknown: 14:37

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I mean, it's one thing to make him, like, pretty much younger than what the rest of the death looked like, but yeah, just even the way he behaved, he just kind of like little shit. And

Berly: 14:48

then the fact that Benny was able to kill him so easily, too, I was just like, what is happening that? So if I were going to have any complaint about this episode, it's that. I wish they had either made him an actual old man who, once his henchmen were taken out, was vulnerable, and that's why Benny was able to take care of it, or had made him just have, like, not such a right. I mean, I get it. He was being described as arrogant during the whole episode, like feeling like he was God and all that other kind of stuff. So I understand why they had the arrogance to it, but just he didn't seem formidable. Yeah, it was

Unknown: 15:28

then like a worldly person,

Berly: 15:32

yeah, it was like the fabulous frat boys, though,

Unknown: 15:34

yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

Berly: 15:36

The wardrobe was cute. They had, they had some, had some good outfits going on. I'm jumping all over the place here, though, Dean agrees to help Benny go take care of this nest. So they are going through Quentin's pockets and shit and go and find where the rest of his stuff is, find bills and whatnot. And Dean finds a list of names. He's like, What the fuck is this? And Benny points out, it's yachts that that was the operation for their nest, is that they would plunder yachts out in the middle of nowhere and then sink the ship,

Unknown: 16:08

like she said, that they they boarded, burned and buried him at sea. Yeah, bordered and burned and buried.

Berly: 16:14

He's Cajun, he's a sailor. He looks like that, and he's a vampire. Yeah, I know, like, Oh my God. They're just like, how can we make Benny even sexier? Like, let's just really go for it. He's a

LA: 16:29

semen

Berly: 16:30

his Vamp payment, is that? What? No, that wasn't as that wasn't as good as Dean's.

Unknown: 16:37

That was good planning on their part back in the day to do that. It's like happen upon those ships and gourd and then, like, fix the ship. It

Berly: 16:47

was a believable it was believable operation, for sure. And I loved their exchange. Whenever Dean was like, your vampire pirates, vampire is and Vinnie said, I can't believe that after years and years and years of doing it, that none of us came up with that. And teen said it's like the second or third thing that you'd say and but he goes, No, it's not, no, it's not just their dynamic. Their dynamic is, is really cute, like, I believe that these two got to know each other, yeah, really well during purgatory, even though we haven't gotten to see the two of them together very much, which I think is a testament to the casting, because their chemistry is great. I believe that these two are like brothers from another mother, anywho. Benny does tell Dean more about why he wants revenge on this nest. It's not just because they killed him and sent his ass to purgatory. They also killed the love of his life, one of the ships that he had gone on and plundered. He saw Andrea, and she was a Greek heiress, and just gorgeous and beautiful. And Benny was just immediately smitten, and he was going to leave the life. That's why, when we see them in Purgatory, when Benny saying I wasn't killing people. I wasn't drinking from people already, and we're getting to find out why that he was actually trying to have a human life with this Andrea person his nest found out they weren't having it. Didn't he leave

Unknown: 18:14

them with to go be off.

Berly: 18:17

Yeah, he tried, and they found out, and went and got them, killed her in front of him, so he thought, and then chopped off his head.

Unknown: 18:25

Yeah, I'd like to know how that happened, because he said the last thing he saw was the old man tearing out her throat. And I'm like, Well, how did you get that message? I was thinking for her being alive later. You know

Berly: 18:38

this is true. This is true. Well, I mean, I guess, if he maybe, maybe it was

Unknown: 18:43

like beating from his wrist. So I guess the heel that healed her, yeah,

Berly: 18:47

she said she came too, and she was already drinking from his wrist when she came to Yeah, but I guess, just depending on where the throat got ripped out, right, yeah, but they're, they're vampires, they heal. Clearly, she was still able to swallow. Give me that Ritz blood. And hey, Benny, I can swallow too. But yeah, Dean is on board. Whenever he hears this story of Andrea and what happened, he's like, Yeah, this fucked up. Let's go murder the nest. I brought my weird hacksaw thing. Yeah, my new favorite handy dandy, all purpose tool. Can use it for everything.

Unknown: 19:22

His better header,

Berly: 19:26

he likes that thing. I liked, also that we got to see them on water in this episode, yeah, yeah, I can't. I was trying to think I was like, I don't think we've ever seen them, like, on a boat or something like that, really, other than so even, even the episode, um, think it was season one, dead on the water, where there was the little boy ghost in the water. Even then, I don't think we saw them, like, oh, yeah, doing much. Dean dove in the water to save that little boy. But, oh, they did blow up a boat in that one. But Sam, Sam and Dean weren't on the water. I like seeing Dean and Benny. Yeah, and they're dinghies, and they're in their dinghy. We also get some more flashbacks of Sam and Amelia and their little love story. I was saying I'm really worried that Lisa, that Amelia is going to get developed as well as Lisa. I'm having trouble talking today, but so far, it's seeming like that's not the case. Like she got some development this episode. We're finding out she's also a drifter for some reason. She's also running away from something for some reason. And she kind of has her guard up here, but Sam is clearly slowly but surely already getting through that, which, I mean, look at him.

Unknown: 20:39

Yeah. Well, and when she popped, like, she was, like, all startled because he was in her room, or whatever. I was like, I would get startled too, but then I would have been like, you what?

Berly: 20:52

I loved it. Whenever he was, like, explaining why the garbage disposal was broken, and then she had that massive bag of limes, and she got all defensive, like, hey, hey,

Unknown: 21:02

yeah. Also, what's she like, what are you doing?

Berly: 21:06

And I like that. Whenever she was talking about him being creepy, what did she say? She said that you clearly only shop at the army surplus store. White supremacists do that. And Sam was like, Well, I'm not one. And then she said, Okay, then traveling serial killers do that, and Sam was just like, well, and it's like she just ignored that big red flag.

Unknown: 21:27

Yeah, I'm glad they did it, though. But I mean, not that there wasn't anything to like or dislike really about her, but I liked

Berly: 21:37

her. I don't think that I like her character just yet. But again, I'm happy that she's actually being developed as a character, that we're actually learning a little bit more about who she is as a person outside of just being Sam's love interest, yeah, that they're giving her some personality. I guess that's what. I wouldn't want to go have a drink with her, you know. But I'm still happy that they're doing something all right, so back to Dean and Benny. They find this, what was it? Paradise Island, where the vampires are all staying, and they infiltrate this mansion. I would like to see what that set looked like.

Unknown: 22:17

Yeah, I know the play that the house looked cool, or whatever, wherever they were,

Berly: 22:21

the house looked cool, but because of how they shot it, I am curious if it wasn't all on like a soundstage, even though it gave us the illusion that it was this massive mansion, it's not like we actually saw you know what? I mean? Yeah, I would be curious to see the behind the scenes. Me too. They come in, they're being all stealthy, but Benny gets distracted. First, he gets distracted by the old man's harpsichord. Isn't that? What he said? I was like, what I think, so, what is that? And then, as he's looking at this musical instrument that I don't know what it is, he sees an eight by 10 photo framed, and it's Andrea. And he's just like, what? Wait a minute. What the fuck. And he's just stunned. Understandably, why would that be there, right? Dean hears that people are coming, and is like, Dude, come on fuck, let's go. But Benny is just still flabbergasted, trying to figure out what the fuck is going on. Dean luckily leaves his friend and hides nice when Andrea comes down the stairs, turns out she a vampire. Y'all we already said it because we've been talking about how she drink blood when her throat was gone, but that's okay. I'm gonna re emphasize she did drink blood even though her throat was gone and she is a vampire. Now,

Unknown: 23:41

don't ask how, how that worked. Don't question it. It just it happened. She's fine. She's good

Berly: 23:46

enough. We don't need to know how they're killing dead monsters in Purgatory. One dark night in the middle of the day, two dead boys came out to play back to back. They faced each other, drew their swords and shot each other. A Deaf policeman heard the noise and came and killed two dead boys. I don't know it's some weird poem that makes no sense that I was taught when I was, like, six years old, and I've always remembered it. I feel like I remember you saying that at some other point too. I do it all the time, so you're probably correct. When Dean and Benny were on the dinghy going to the mansion. Dean was starting to text Sam, like, Hey, I'm safe, but I'm going to I'm going with a friend. I'm helping my buddy. We're going to a vampire nest. We're going to clean it out. I'm not alone, don't worry, but I'm just going to do this thing really quickly. And then after he had texted it out, he was like, No, never mind. I'm not going to tell him. I'm going to tell him. So he delete, delete. Well, then now that he's in the mansion and his backup has just been like kidnapped by his ex lover turned vampire, and Dean is finding himself alone with his little hacksaw thing in a mansion where he doesn't even know how many vampires are there, and he's just standing there now he goes, You know what? Maybe. I should go ahead and tell Sam, but we're not texting. No, no, no, we're gonna give him a call time to waste. Yeah, with text, we don't have time for typing. Okay, my hand is busy with my hacksaw. I need to be able to swing this thing if somebody comes around the corner, all right, so I'm calling you, and Sam is just like, What the fuck? What are you doing? So of course, Sam is on the other line. And again, I loved this dynamic. It felt like old Sam and Dean to me this episode.

Unknown: 25:27

I liked how it just totally scolded me.

Berly: 25:32

He is just going off on the on the other end of the line. And I loved that Dean used it as a distraction. Set the phone.

Unknown: 25:44

He's like, I don't need to hear this, but I will right.

Berly: 25:48

Sets the phone down, well, see it was going off, and draws the vampires and and I loved the shot of him going down that hall. It was that dark hall, and it was backlit through that window. I loved it. Him going down that hall, turn in the corner, and us seeing the vampire head go rolling out, and then dean coming back around the corner and just strutting straight into the camera, and that being the transition into another flashback. Loved it. Loved it. I loved I loved it. In case you didn't know, do you love it? Loved it. Okay, the other guy that has been part of the vampire drama is this Sorrento guy who was the right hand man. He was the only other guy in the nest that the old man liked as much as he liked Benny, but we find out Andrea outranks Sorrento. Now, wanna know how that happened, too. Benny said, I guess there's like benefits to sleeping with God and but then whenever we meet the old man, I'm like, I don't think he was sleeping with Andrew. Like, you know, I like, I'm not sure I buy that he was sleeping with Andrea,

Unknown: 27:08

yeah. Oh, I do like that. Uh, Sorento. Did you know he noticed that he called him Sosa, like a little nickname of so so I was like, Oh, that's cute. That's a cute little thing.

Berly: 27:23

Sorrento and some other henchmen, they've all got Benny tied up in a chair. Oh, no, he's not tied up. He's handcuffed, handcuffed in a chair. And Andrea is just like, go. I don't know what she sent. Sorrento went to go tell the old man about Benny, and then came down to say that he's demanded that Benny be brought to him, and so he he walks off. And I can't remember what she told the two henchmen to do, but she told the two henchmen to go do something.

Unknown: 27:49

I think, you know, she was just telling them to tell us that that he's like, ready surrender.

Berly: 27:53

I know that we sent so So, but just in case the message wasn't received, I need both of you to go tell him as well. Yeah, get out of here. Yeah. She's like, I need the room because she was going

Unknown: 28:02

Benny, let me sit on your lap.

Berly: 28:06

And she did. She got her little piece. As soon as she had them all out the room, she was on that face, sucking that bone lip, go for it. Get it. Andrea, and then, of course, telling him, hey, you should go murder that

Unknown: 28:19

guy. Yeah, kill the old man. You're the only one that could do it, for some reason,

Berly: 28:23

right? Which, again, that's my only complaint of this episode, is I just did not buy that old man being some sort of formidable foe that only Benny could vanquish. I was just like, really, yeah. So she gives Benny keys to be able to get out of the handcuffs, and gives him a switch blade that he'll use to, I guess saw off the old man's head, I don't know, and then we will be together. Oh, there was. It was an interesting conversation. When Benny asked her, why'd you stay after they turned you like, and her going, you know how it is, at first all you think about is blood, and the one who gives it to you, and Benny kind of cut her off. And was like, yeah, yeah, I get it. And I was like, Wait a minute. I wanted to hear the end of that

Unknown: 29:07

sentence more about their background. I mean, hold here. I need to know, yeah, I would have

Berly: 29:12

loved to have more. I understand that. It's like, on one hand, I'm happy they gave us more of Sam and Amelia. Maybe, maybe I'm jumping the gun here, but I'm not hating them so much right now, yeah, however, at the same time, I wanted more about the nest and the history and, like, what was the end of that sentence? I want to know what's it like me too, but I guess that's that's a good complaint to have, that this episode was so good and they squeezed so much into it that I was just like, yes, give me more. So anyway, sorinto takes Benny to the maker, and then we get the big reveal of the old man, the old young man, and he is annoying and obviously egotistical and obviously thinks that he is, what's the word, invulnerable. People and yada yada. And guess his whole speech about how he had to keep Andrea because she was the only thing left of Benny. Well, Benny is having none of this. Yeah, he gets out of his cuffs, and Sorrento goes to attack him, and we get, like, some matrix slow mo fighting here, Sorrento is like, what the fuck. How'd you learn to fight like that? And Benny says, I had practice. And then kill Sorrento, no problem. And it's like a course, because he was fighting for a year, he was running around with these two characters who were apparently beacons to the monsters. Oh, that was one of the flashbacks. One of the things that was interesting in the flashbacks was whenever the leviathans came to get them, and they came, like, crashing in, like, meteors of,

Unknown: 30:46

yeah, goo. I was like, what? And then the way they, like, came together. I was like,

Berly: 30:51

that's new, yeah, we didn't see any of that in season seven. I thought that was pretty cool. I don't remember when that happened in the episode, but I know what fucking did is, and that was like,

Unknown: 31:00

Nah, Benny. Babes cap, right? Oh

Berly: 31:03

yeah, he does. Yeah, he did. He saves Castiel, Oh, Benny, Oh, Benny, Oh, Ben. Ben, so, so Ben, Ben, after Benny takes out Sorrento, he pulls out the switchblade. We don't see the fight between Benny and old man. So, like I said, I'm not even imagining that. It was a really big fight. I'm just imagining the old man like, cowering back and Benny just been like, I mean, just come here and just like, you know, little fella, I know I'm beating a dead horse at this point. I

Unknown: 31:40

mean, Benny came out of a room pretty clean, no marks

Berly: 31:43

on him, like he still had his hands and feet. Yeah, that was one of the things that they kept threatening, like, we're gonna take your hands and feet and then we'll take you to the to the old man. And now it all makes sense as to why they needed to have his hands and feet before they presented him to the old man, right? Yep, yep. Well, Andrea Andrea Andrea got some bad news for Benny. Turns out she don't want to run away with him. She wants to take over the operation. So Benny's heartbroken, but he still lets her know he's not about that life, right? She decides, if she can't have him, can't nobody have him. When, luckily, Dean pops out. He's got his his beheader, like you said, and takes care of Andrea, Dean and Benny take their dinghy back to the dock where Sam is waiting for them, because Dean had sent his location again. Dean was in a position where he wasn't certain he was going to be getting out of there. Yeah, I can't blame him for calling, calling little bro and being like, he

Unknown: 32:47

was like, off, mesmerized by what's her name. And Dean was kind of on his own. I was like, I know he had his fancy sword thing or whatever, but I was still a little working

Berly: 32:56

for him. Not a great situation to be in, yeah. But I adored this scene here at the end, whenever Sam helps them out of the oh, it was so good. And just Benny. He was just so kind and so excited to meet Sam. It seemed like just reaching his hand out there and how you saw Jared. Padalecki, Jensen normally does a lot more of the minuscule things. Jared spatial things are normally much more exaggerated. But he did the he did the smaller facial changes here at first, before he got like, really, like mad there where you could see that Sam was working it out. This isn't a human that I'm shaking the hand of a monster at this time. It's really well done. And this the angle, again, that those interesting angles throughout this episode where we saw whatever was on Sam's belt, or whatever that he went and unsnapped, I don't know if that was a gun or what that was, that we see that like

Unknown: 33:49

it was like a pinky flip, yeah. I mean, I don't

Berly: 33:53

know it was. It was so well done, so well done. Just that snap and then just that drawn out tension, where things were slow mode, and we see that Benny's realized what happened, but he's not acting. Benny's not going to move. He's sitting there. And then we see Dean realizing what's happening, and that slow head nod, and then Jared paddleback. He again coming back to just acting. With, I mean, with, this was no dialog. This was all facial expression, right that we get to see this entire conversation happen. It was excellent. And that angle from Sam's hand, where you could see Sam's ass and hand and whatever weapon he was going for, and then Benny and Dean are still in the show. It was glorious. Sam's met Benny. Now, no more secret there. Sam does not look

Unknown: 34:41

happy. He's like a mom, like you think I was scolding you on the phone. Just wait till we get back to our room. Wait, wait

Berly: 34:48

till we get home. But yeah, Return of the cute hotels. There were some shots done in this that were just amazing. It felt like Sam and Dean again, even though they're still fighting it. Like Sam and Dean again, which I don't mind the melodrama. I'm just kind of over it a little bit at this point. Yeah, you know, like, let's let's move on. Let's get back to the bickering brothers. And I liked how this episode still kept the conflict that we know is going on, but they're back to being bickering brothers. Yeah. Oh well, this makes perfect sense. Written by Ben edland, directed by Guy B, yeah, there you go. Y'all knocked it out of the park, fellas. I loved this episode, like I said my hands down, like I don't even need to think about it. My favorite episode of the season so far. Yeah, I would agree. Gore. There wasn't really a whole lot of gore. I mean, we had that vampire head roll, yeah, was great. I loved it, but I wouldn't say it was gory. Well, Betty's bloody part, yeah, there was some blood, but we didn't have any blood splooges, right? No, Gore really, yeah, just more violence, not, not really any Gore going on in this episode, yeah? But I liked the action. I liked the violence. You know, the fighting in purgatory was interesting. I really wish that we get more of purgatory. I just love that look. I hope we get to see the three of them more. Did you adore anything about this episode?

Unknown: 36:11

Ready? You know, oh, and seeing the dog more, you know, it's

Berly: 36:15

a well trained dog too, yeah. Oh, a good dog. Whenever it went running in there and was just kind of laying on Amelia while she had her feet kicked up and everything again. I think it's hilarious that she was like, white supremacist, no, and Sam, and then she said serial killer. And Sam was like, well, and we just moved right past it, because Damn, he's cute, you know. Hey there, Sammy, you can get in my garbage disposal anytime, as long as you shove something other than limes in there,

Unknown: 36:50

trying to figure out something with stuffing. But it escaped me

Berly: 36:59

anyway, we made that classy swallowing joke earlier. You know, we've hit our

Unknown: 37:03

quota. That's true. That's true, but yeah, for lore, you know vampires, we so we did another one of our throwback fours from season one, episode 20, dead man, me and

LA: 37:19

everybody and it kind of knows the gist of the whole vampire stuff. But I thought this was interesting that, you know, we always think folklore of vampires came from like Vlad the Impaler and all this stuff. But this one says, this article said it first appeared in the writings in the 1700s by Joseph lalock. But he used it as a term to describe price gouging merchants rather than blood sucking monsters. Oh, so that's what it was originally the word was

Berly: 37:47

originally used for, the word was originally used for, like, people who were ripping you off, yeah. Okay, financially, not physically, okay, right?

LA: 37:57

But then, um, in 1819, they kind of became that vampires, what we know now, kind of became more mainstream by because John William polarty, poliarti, polio, Polidori. Polidori, yeah, he wrote a fictional story called The vampire with the Y, and that was kind of based loosely off of Lord Byron.

Berly: 38:22

Lord Byron, yes, I've not heard that before.

LA: 38:25

It says it's the first of its kind to make vampires seem more aristocratic and seductive, which I guess that's how Lord Byron was so but then it was 80 years later that Bram Bram Stoker published Dracula, so it's a big stretch, yeah. And of course, we know he was based on Vlad the Impaler, the real life Romanian Prince that was had a real affinity for impaling his, uh, people on the battlefield, yeah. Stroker. Strokers, Count Dracula. He's a he was a far cry from Byron's sexy, womanizing vampire, um, it said he has hairy palms, bad breath, and he looked more like a

Berly: 39:06

corpse. Oh, my goodness, not

Unknown: 39:08

sexy, not at all. Then

LA: 39:11

we jumped to 1931 where Bella Bela Lugosi, I love his name. Bela Lugosi, yeah. Starred as you said, 1919 3131 okay. Bram Stoker gets a credit in the movie for writing, but the film's actually based on a 1920 stage play that was adapted from Bram Stoker's novel, but not the book itself. It was just kind of taken from it, but it was more based on the stage play, and this one established Bela Lugosi. Dracula was more he was wealthy debonair and who his immortal kiss was more does that was what was desirable more than deadly. So he was just like, very seductive, and everybody wanted him, sounds like me, just kidding. And then, of course, the. In our main culture we've got. Then we have our Count Dracula in 1992 Gary Oldman, Winona Ryder, keona Reeves, pretty fab, The Lost Boys, my favorite Interview with the Vampire. And then, of course, then we had, like, some kind of more funny, lighthearted portrayals with like Buffy the Vampire Slayer. And what we do in the shadows, the movie and now the TV show, and, of course, Twilight, you know, then we talk, then it starts talking about if vampires are real nowadays, which this is all in one article. Yeah, okay, it's from it's from today. I think it was some that they did an interview with this guy, or somebody. I forget his name. I should probably know that, but I don't. Are they real well? So it says, like, if you consider people who drink blood, the blood of others for pleasure, then

Berly: 40:50

yes, I think I saw something like that on a documentary I did too. And they were like, weird. They were really weird. Yeah, they would have, like, donors who would come over, yes. And he'd just like, put a hole or something like, give him a tiny cut, like, on their shoulder blade, and sit there and suck on them for a little bit. And then he'd be like, I have I feel better, and I feel this. And the person who got sucked on would say that they felt good too, and did it. And I was just like, you did not. There's no way you possibly got that much blood from there? Yeah, no, and I have fair skin, I would get hickeyed. I would have a hickey. Oh, yeah, like, no.

LA: 41:28

Well, according to this 2015, search survey conducted by the Atlanta vampire Alliance, what, there are at least 5000 people in the US who identify as real, shut

Berly: 41:43

up. 5000 Yeah. And they have clubs,

LA: 41:48

yeah, oh, my God. They say that these people that have they're like, more like people who have blood fetishes and call themselves, well, they don't. They actually don't call themselves vampires. They call themselves sanguine, sanguines, sanguine sanguines, something like that, S, A, N, G, U, I, N, E, S sanguines, sanguines, anyway,

Berly: 42:15

your guess is as good as mine. So some

LA: 42:17

of them consider themselves that. Others say they're vampires. They present themselves like our fictional creatures, like they avoid sunlight, and they say they enjoy drinking human blood from donors.

Berly: 42:26

And then it gives them power like that. They it gives them energy like this. The guy in this documentary was saying he can tell whenever he needs to feed kind of thing to just do you have an iron deficiency? There must be something else going on there. But

LA: 42:43

I thought this was funny too, because he talks about psychic vampires that feed in a completely different way, much like our good old friend on what we do in the shadows, Colin Robinson, and he's he says that they steal energy Off the living and they just, some people just don't create energy that people normally make for themselves, so, so they steal it from others to feel complete. And those are the psychic vampires.

Berly: 43:12

How do they feed? I guess they just do like

LA: 43:16

him. I guess it's like, you know, like how an empath is, I guess maybe it's the reverse. Maybe

Berly: 43:25

I'm like picturing like Debbie Downer. Was she an energy vampire? It

Unknown: 43:30

says the blood

LA: 43:34

drinking vampires can be found on six of the seven continents. Which

Berly: 43:39

continent North is it? It doesn't say Antarctica doesn't have vampires. Probably not.

LA: 43:46

But it's a worldwide thing, and in each place, it's different forms, different cultures. You know, they they take their own spin on it. Oh, it says in this article that nearly everyone agrees that New Orleans is a good place to start to find

Berly: 43:58

them. That's where the guy was in the documentary. I cannot remember the name of it, though, but what if it's the same guy? He was in New Orleans?

LA: 44:04

We'll have to see. Oh no, I think this is a woman. Sarah Lemire from today.

Berly: 44:13

Was the vampire. No, this who wrote this? Oh no, I'm talking about the guy who was, I know. Okay, I was

LA: 44:18

saying maybe it's the same person. I realized, it, yeah, okay,

Berly: 44:22

that's crazy.

LA: 44:24

So the idea of vampires in New Orleans is a really It says it's a very, very old concept, and it's believed to have been built on cursed ground in New Orleans, and has long been known as the city steeped in Miss Of course, it's the city steeped in mysticism, voodoo and the occult, and so that's why y says it makes sense that vampires, or like the idea or root of where it, you know, started, that it was fertile ground for them to like, build upon that, and it's also the backdrop of Interview with a Vampire. So

Berly: 44:53

right, that's more what I was thinking, too. I was thinking they probably. Moved there because of the movie. But okay, well, and I think, I think preacher had some episodes in New Orleans as well, but it wasn't necessarily, like based around vampires. They just, they just had a vampire in tow. And

LA: 45:11

then I found this other, well, I didn't find this other article. You did, but there are two, like real life vampires that they talk to. One guy's name is Maven lore. That's a good name, and he fits fangs for people, oh yeah. And they're like acrylic things that people can get. And he lives in New Orleans.

Berly: 45:34

And he's a vampire. He's a he identifies as a vampire. Yes, he is

LA: 45:38

most modern day vampires don't fit the archetypes of Bram Stoker and all the popularized ones that we know. These are people who often, I don't know why I'm laughing. These are people who often work day jobs. And Maven lore is also a graphic designer, DJ and jeweler. And then the other guy that they talked to, merticus. He's an expert in antique finishing furnishings.

Berly: 46:03

These are good names, though, right? I got some good names. They got some good vampire names. You know, I wonder if, like, Were you born with that name? Or, whenever you, like, decided you were a vampire, changed your name. Those names, you think, sure. I don't know, people have some crazy names,

LA: 46:20

but they say that that most vampires these days, like, ethnographically, that he's found that the members of these communities were mostly drawn to each other through like social elements, and not necessarily like the affinity for being for vampirism, I guess.

Berly: 46:37

So. Basically, you're telling me the Winchesters would fuck up a modern day vampire, for sure.

LA: 46:43

No problem. It doesn't sound like they have any special abilities or, like any of that stuff. It's like they're just a little community.

Berly: 46:50

Yeah, they'd be like, Oh no, my fangs fell out. Wait a minute. Hang on, Sam. Like,

Unknown: 46:55

get this back on here. And if

Berly: 47:00

it was a kink, and they would admit it was a kink, I would think completely different. I would still be fascinated. Don't get me wrong, right? Like furries, I don't judge you, yeah? I just, I don't. I also don't get it, if that makes sense, it's not from a judging place. It's just, I'm one of those people who's obsessed with wanting to be able to put myself in somebody else's shoes and understand why they're doing what they do, or why they like what they do. And I can't really do that with furries. I don't judge you, I just don't get it. Same thing with this, if it's the kink thing, I mean, as long as it's all consensual, I don't judge you, but I don't get it right. But for people who are really like, no, like, I'm literally a vampire, and this can't go in the sun and I need blood, I'm just like, what happened?

LA: 47:40

And yeah, go to a doctor. Yeah. Murder kiss said that he was seeking answers from others like him, and so he joined these vampire chat rooms in 1996

Berly: 47:53

after noticing, I bet they were fire back in the 90s. I bet those chat rooms were awesome back then, Oh, my God.

Unknown: 48:02

But he

LA: 48:03

joined it after noticing for years that he could draw strength from charged situations. So he realized that he was a psychic feeder, which they keep calling it psychic, but we know, like from we did in the shadows, he's an energy feeder,

Berly: 48:17

or maybe he's just an empath like me, like, like I was saying I can go into a room and be in the worst mood of my life. And I think this is true for most people, not just empaths. You go into a room and there's really high energy, you're gonna match the energy. Yeah? You go into a room feeling great, like, it's the best day of your life, and everyone's sad, you're gonna be brought down. Yeah, yeah. I mean, what does he mean by he could draw on other people, because all of us do that to an extent. He

LA: 48:45

says, I never felt as though my body or even this time period aligns with my spirit or soul, or more simply, I've always felt something was different about me, and that I couldn't quite put my finger on it. But he said the friends he made in those chat rooms are still in his life today, online and offline, and that the connections grow stronger. And that's, I guess. I mean, it sounds like what you're saying is what he's talking about. So there, there's this little community and family and lore Maven, lore says we just want, we just want to get along and be loved. That's why I love the vampire community. It doesn't fucking matter what race, what gender you are, you're accepted.

Berly: 49:26

I mean, that's good, yeah? Like I said, no judgment. I don't know. I personally don't get it, yeah? But as long as it's all consensual and it's all adults,

LA: 49:36

whatever, yeah, to each their own, right? There's a bunch more in this article about these two people, but I won't go much farther. Is there anything else fun? I mean, it's just, like, they just keep going on and on about it, and like, it doesn't occupy their entire lives. They have other parts. Like, it's just, I don't know. It's just they're taking it real seriously.

Berly: 49:59

That's fine. Okay, good. Good for you. Yeah, good for you. You found,

LA: 50:03

found a place where you belong, yeah, more power to you, as long as I mean, it's not hurting anybody. I

Berly: 50:08

still think you should go to a doctor if you can't go out in the sun without it hurting you. You know, you have a taste that you feel like you need, and if you feel like you need, I think you should go to a doctor. There's deficiency going on. There, just my two cents. You know,

LA: 50:24

I agree. I think

Berly: 50:26

her All right. Well, quote, to close it out, when they're in Purgatory, Dean says, I'm the one with the Mojo. I'm the one with the plan, Cass, we're gonna shove your ass back through the eye of that needle, even if it kills all three of

Unknown: 50:41

us. And then he says, obviously, I'm less than comfortable with

Berly: 50:45

that. I should have pulled the quote where he said, where he called Cass Dean's crazy aunt. And Cass was like, I I am not your aunt. Yeah, that would have been good. He was so mad about that. Oh, man.

Unknown: 51:07

Cheers, cheers.

Berly: 51:10

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LA: 51:12

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Berly: 51:19

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LA: 51:21

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