EP 54 The Power of Community and Giving Back with Kim Diguilio

Step into the inspiring story of Kim Diguilio, a wife, mom, nurse, and dear friend in our community, who traded blurry regrets for a life of clarity without alcohol. Kim's journey, from a game-changing challenge to eye-opening revelations from "This Naked Mind," reveals the power of choosing sobriety with authenticity and purpose.

Now, with three years of sobriety in her pocket, Kim's story goes beyond personal wins. She dives into her heartwarming community contributions—volunteering at the Common Ground Grief Center, supporting families touched by addiction, and making a proactive impact to create a legacy her kids can look up to. It's proof that an alcohol-free lifestyle isn't just about personal change; it's a magnifier for giving back and fostering generational wellness—a beacon of hope for those on their path to sobriety.

But wait, our episode wouldn't be complete without a nod to the connections we've forged during our weekly Happy Half-Hours. From virtual costume shindigs to mocktail summits, they're living proof that laughter and camaraderie don't need a splash of spirits to be enjoyed. As your host, I'm grateful for every story shared, every connection made, and the journey we're walking together. Your support is the engine driving this community, and together, we're rocking an alcohol-free life that's just as rich and fulfilling as any other. Big Time
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Transcript

Deb: 0:02

Welcome to the Thriving Alcohol Free Podcast. I'm your host, deb, otherwise known as Mocktail Mom, a retired wine drinker that finally got sick and tired of spinning on life's broken record called Detox to Retox. Let this podcast be an encouragement to you. If alcohol is maybe a form of self-care for you or you find yourself dragging through the day waiting to pour another glass, I am excited to share with you the fun of discovering new things to drink when you aren't drinking and the joy of waking up each day without a hangover. It is an honor to serve as your sober, fun guide, so sit back and relax or keep doing whatever it is you're doing. This show is produced for you with love from the great state of Kentucky. Thanks so much for being here and big time cheers. Okay, hey, friends, welcome back to Thriving Alcohol Free. I am Deb, I'm your host and I am so excited because one of my favorite people from our membership is in the house. We have Jersey in the house.

Deb: 1:02

Kim Diguilio Did I say it right? That's right, Diguilio, I said it right. Her beautiful Italian last name, kim Diguilio, is in the house. She's going to share with us a little bit about her journey becoming alcohol free. What it's been like Kim. You are such a wonderful person. Like I only know you screen to screen, but you just exude joy and happiness and kindness. You're a mom, you're a nurse, you volunteer in such a loving way in your community, and so I can't wait for you to share a little bit about that. But yes, it's just so fun to have you here today. So thank you for joining me on the podcast.

Kim: 1:37

So excited to be here and I have to say likewise, my friend, I felt instantly connected to you and this is great stuff, it's stuff to be excited about. And who knew? Because going in nobody was really excited. We all went in like, oh my gosh, what am I doing? 21 day challenge, you know so.

Deb: 1:59

Yeah yeah. Could you have ever imagined? Yeah, like what did you think? Like, the day before you stopped drinking Were you just. What were you thinking?

Kim: 2:09

You know, like many of us, I was saying to my kind of for a long time, you know, had that thought in the back of my mind like, hmm, this probably is getting a little out of control. You know, gee, I'd like everyone else wake up at 3am and go oh God, I hope I didn't say something or do something really like stupid last night. I can't quite recall, and you know things would be fuzzy, and then you'd be trying to piece it together and get info from people without really asking, because you oh yeah, yeah, Wasn't that fun last night.

Deb: 2:37

You know kind of like, what was the react? What's the reaction? What are you gonna say, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, no, really wasn't fun, actually Like, oh, oh, yeah, that's right, it wasn't fun. Yeah, piecing it together, that's so interesting.

Kim: 2:49

Yes, a lot of us say it was fun. It was great fun until it wasn't, you know. And then it kind of hit you and you know, as a mom and as a nurse, you want to lead a good example and you know, you certainly you don't want something to be wrong. Or you know, whatever the case may be, and again, especially when it comes to, you know, alcohol, the stigma that's always been attached and you know you say to yourself oh, I'm a great mom, I take my kids to every sporting event there is, and I'm a super nurse, I do this, I do that, oh yeah.

Kim: 3:18

But there's that little thing that I come home and, you know, start with a glass of wine and, and by throwing the bottle in the recycle bin, going, oh boy, I probably shouldn't have had all that much last night, you know. So I'm not gray area drinking. You know the, the racing thoughts at 3am, you know the waking up with the, you know, oh my goodness, you know, type of things. So I had been watching it, though, for a while, and actually I took a little break from alcohol here and there again thinking, gee, you know, I need a little break, you know. But it was never like oh I'm, you know, I'm going to do a 21 day challenge. So when I went into the 21 day challenge day before, I was like, okay, I'm going into this, I'm going to get through this 21 day, I'm going to cut back and get myself back in order, you know.

Kim: 4:03

And then it just clicked. I knew it was a great community of wonderful, like minded women. I'm like these are all great women and, you know, just having the support, the camaraderie, you know, it just made it easier. And I also have to to Annie Grace. I give so much kudos because this naked mind when I read that book really, you know, changed my outlook on alcohol. And again, being a nurse especially, I'm like you know, I know how dangerous alcohol can be and you know I've worked even with patients that have had problems or issues. But when I read the book for myself and really started going through it, it just it. It's what that's rich for me. I went, you know what, there's no reason to have alcohol in my body. And now we have all these great cocktails.

Deb: 4:48

I know, and look at you, you've got your mocktail mom glass. I love that you have that. That was in my box, I think the last box that I did right. Such a fun little glass. Yes, you have to be careful with that one.

Kim: 4:57

A little hand washing on on yeah, the only thing that doesn't go in the dishwasher in my house is the mocktail mom glass.

Deb: 5:05

I'm glad you're taking loving care of your mocktail. Mom. I'm sure I am. Yes, it's fun to have new glassware, you know, to create new memories. I found that I had to get rid of some of my old I mean it sounds so silly, but I did. I had, like my I mean I stopped using it for a while but my best mom ever tumbler. I used to put my wine in there and it was like then it was associated with drinking, you know, and drinking too much. So to have new glassware, you know, for my new habits and stuff it really does. I didn't never thought it would make any difference, but it actually does. So, okay, so November 7th 2023 was three years for you, so you're a little bit ahead of me. I love it.

Kim: 5:44

And congratulations on your three years as well, oh.

Deb: 5:47

Congratulations to you, kim, seriously Okay. So, like you were saying, like you woke up at three in the morning, I did the same thing. I thought I was the only one. Did you think you were the only one? Like I just thought, oh my gosh, I did it again.

Kim: 5:59

For a while I may have. And then I'm like, well, you know, there's gotta be other people that have the same thing, but it's not something people talk about. So you know, that's why getting in our groups and having the support of the other women and actually talking about it. It was such a relief just to say it out loud and have other women say, wow, I've been there too, I've done that. Yeah, you know okay, it's not just me.

Deb: 6:24

Yeah, totally, totally, it's so, it's reassuring. You're like, okay, I'm not the only one. Yeah, yeah, what have you been able to do now, three plus years in alcohol-free, that you weren't doing prior to Breaking up with alcohol?

Kim: 6:39

Well, my probably my most, my biggest Accomplishment and the thing that I'm most proud of is, you know, my volunteering with the children at Common Ground grief center who have ironically lost a parent and or parents to alcohol or drugs. And you know, to be honest, I probably would not have done the additional. You know, gone into the courses to get ready and then committed to a year of Going, you know, twice a month and being there for the kids, and and all of that my time was work, kids school, like you know, sport activities and then drinking.

Kim: 7:16

You know that was my recreational activity and you know it's just so wonderful to be out there doing the extras you know, I want to make a difference, you know, in this life and you know it's so important to me, so that's a great way to make a difference. You know what better way than to, you know, interact with these children who have lost parents and you know, unfortunately, you know, there's so many of them. It's, it's amazing to me even to see you know how many children in this generation have lost a parent or parents. You know, it is crazy. Years ago we wouldn't have heard about this. So the fact that we're Supporting these children but also realizing that in this country now you see this movement for a lot of going alcohol-free and having alcohol-free lifestyles, which is just going to benefit this next generation Tremendously and for them I'm so happy.

Deb: 8:13

Yeah, I love just the work that you're doing and like when you talk during our membership which, for anybody who's listening, we have a membership. Kim is in the membership, thriving alcohol-free Mocktail mom. She's in our membership and so we have happy hours. So she misses every other week because she's you're volunteering. But when you come and you talk about, you know, the kids and like you are just beaming, I know it's like it fills you up to go and give and to be able to do that now that you're not drinking, right, like you have that space in your heartest VPN communication yeah, definitely.

Deb: 8:44

And you know that's the whole thing.

Kim: 8:45

You know it's people don't realize that it fills you up like you say so much. I'll take that that cup being filled with kids and Volunteering and doing all kinds of things rather than alcohol any day, so you can fill my cup up with all of that and it's wonderful, it's flowing over and I hope that it does show because I want everybody to know what a wonderful Life this is without it. You know you're so scared going in, like what will life be like if I, if I give up alcohol? And I say constantly I have not lost the thing, I've just gained so much more in life and I feel you know, ten years younger, to be honest with you, you know really really.

Kim: 9:27

I feel like I do, I feel younger, I feel more vibrant, I have more energy. You know I've always been a little bit of an energizer bunny I'm. A weekend would be my time to drink and Then just kind of gel out and zone out and and not be connected.

Deb: 9:44

So to be connected on that weekend time and have all the extra drive to do things is just another benefit, you know, yeah, emotional connection, yeah, and, like you said, like there's now, there's such a movement towards Alcohol-free lifestyle. You know it's so different, right? So hopefully this next generation, I mean your kids, are. How are?

Kim: 10:03

my 28 and 23?. My 28 year old is doing a 75 hard challenge right now and having no alcohol in those 75 days.

Kim: 10:12

My son and my daughter is doing dry January. So really I'm so proud of the two of them, yeah, that they're doing it. And, to be honest, my son, my 28 year old, he struggles with alcohol a little bit. You know he's still out there a little bit too much in the party scene and you know all of that and you know, again, he was another one of my really big reasons for doing this. I started to worry a little bit about his drinking and the way they drink and you know it's a little different now that when we were growing up. You know it's, it's just a different feel and when I saw that happening, we tried to like, really normalize drinking in our house. And it's funny, I'd listen back to a podcast and and you saying, you're the middle of three girls, as I am also.

Deb: 10:58

Oh, that's right.

Kim: 10:59

There were three other boys through a company that. But growing up in our house, you know, I grew up in a very sheltered family. There were six kids. My parents were just these wonderful, loving, caring parents. They did not drink and, as a matter of fact, they frowned on drinking and, unbeknownst to me, I found out later in life that the reason for that was that on my father's side his mother had some severe alcohol problems and he actually went. My father wound up losing a Brother to alcohol at 38 years old, to a GI bleed, and a sister who developed cancers and things like that at 50, who was also a nurse like myself, and I believe that may have been also related to alcohol. And so my parents sheltered us from that and never allowed alcohol at the house and we didn't know.

Kim: 11:48

So growing up in our house my own family I kind of tried to normalize alcohol. There was always alcohol around and then I started noticing that my son in his 20s seemed to be partying a little too much not having you off, switch, stuff like that and I really started to worry about him and I thought you know what I have to lead by example. I can't be having concern about him and letting him know that he's going overboard when I myself know I'm doing that. So that's, I was part of the reason I'm gonna walk the talk and three years later I'm still walking it and I'm proud to say that. You know they're really learning from that and I hope that it continues. And you know it just. It touches your heart to see that anyone that you worry about struggling, you know, with alcohol, anything you can do to prevent that and try to help them through that it's just so important.

Kim: 12:40

So for all the moms out there too that wanna walk the talk for their kids. It's the perfect opportunity to set that example, as I know you do for Lily as well.

Deb: 12:49

No, but it's yeah, but it's boy, it's so easy to be like, do as I say, not as I do, right, like I was, like you know, like oh no, I'm not really drinking that much, you know, like rationalizing it or whatever, but yeah, to really walk that talk, you know, and live it out. Okay, as you guys know, I love Giesen Zero Percent Wines. Their Sauvignon blanc is my go-to on a regular basis. They recently launched a delicious sparkling brute, Zero Percent, which is quickly becoming a fan favorite. I am so proud to have Giesen as the exclusive non-alcoholic wine sponsor of the Thriving Alcohol Free Podcast.

Deb: 13:24

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Deb: 14:02

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Deb: 14:44

I'm really having to dig deep?

Kim: 14:46

You know I have to be honest, there have been just, I wanna say, less than a handful of times where you kinda get that little old urge for like a few minutes and then all I need to do is think about the benefits and where it's taken me and also where that could go and why would I wanna put the poison back in my body. I've worked hard to get it out. So those fleeting moments luckily, thank God for me, they've been fleeting and nothing is easy. But this is a lot easier than I could have ever imagined. But again, I attribute that to all the wonderful women. I look forward to your happy hour on Thursday nights, even though it's every other, you know, incredibly, and I love getting on and seeing everybody just talking and sharing. And you know you have been such a wonderful influenced that you really have. You don't realize the. You know your impact on people and the difference that you're making. It's, you know it's phenomenal and I'm so happy for you and so proud of you to see that I'm proud of you.

Deb: 15:49

Yeah, yep, and it's so wonderful to be connected. You know to be connected on our journey, alcohol-free like it's. You're not doing it alone. You know I'm not sitting in my chair anymore drinking my wine alone. It's like now I have like all these friends. I connect with. You know, screen to screen. I mean, it's on Zoom, we're happy hours, it's not nobody's coming over to my house, we're not in my kitchen.

Kim: 16:10

Although my goal is. My goal is for us to meet in person, absolutely it's getting me.

Deb: 16:14

You know I'm not in the ladies' part.

Kim: 16:17

But when you can't even technology, how lucky are we to have this, to be able to see one another, hop on the happy hour and to be honest with our busy life schedules a lot of times, it makes such a difference to be able to jump on the happy hour than to have to physically go somewhere Totally. I think, so many more of them would be like oh, I can't go tonight. Oh, I don't feel like driving already home and my pajamas.

Deb: 16:39

Yep.

Kim: 16:40

Here in the northeast it's cold now in the winter.

Deb: 16:42

Shop in your robe. Yeah, we should have a robe night one. Yeah, just come in our robe, just come as you are Right, like just it doesn't matter.

Kim: 16:51

It's a pajama party, yeah, we need to have a pajama party.

Deb: 16:54

We've had other things. Yeah, we had a costume party, right? Yeah, we had ugly. No, not custom, we had ugly sweater contest.

Kim: 17:01

I'm a sweater. Yeah, I mean that one. I wasn't on that one when I sent you guys a picture because I knew you guys were going to all be coming in your things. So great to see the connection. It's just fun.

Deb: 17:11

Yeah, just keep it fun Like it's, because I think I thought it was going to be so boring. I thought it was going to be drudgery, you know not to drink and like now, to have this whole, this whole new life that's opened up without alcohol. Not one drop of alcohol involved in any of the fun times we've had. But yes, we will definitely meet in person. Yeah.

Kim: 17:29

It's funny, deb. I was a beer and wine drinker, but now, with the cocktails and all the different things we're making, I love it. I, my daughter, got me for Christmas some some new little you know pieces for my uh, bar making skills and I've been trying to get a little bit better with that stuff and, like you said, just even coming up with them. I love all the lists of all the drinks that we got in the summit. I can't wait to make more of those.

Deb: 17:51

Yeah, good, okay, yes, okay. So yeah, let's talk about the summit, if we can, for a second. So we just when we're recording this. So we had the mocktail summit was last week, a week ago. Right now was the first day of the mocktail summit, first one ever. We had 18 different mocktail enthusiasts who came in and made mocktails with us. It was so much fun. So you were on the VIP track, which included, like happy hours and the replay, so you'll be able to go back. So anyone's that you missed you'll be able to go back and watch. And, um, yeah, how was the mocktail summit for?

Kim: 18:15

you.

Deb: 18:16

You're the first person I've talked to.

Kim: 18:17

Yeah, it was great I really loved it and you know, unfortunately because it was during the day. That's why I really wanted to get the VIP because I knew that I could catch up. And I was at the gym one day and I had my, my phone on there and I'm playing all the replays and watching.

Kim: 18:34

You know all the different presentations. They were excellent and to see the group that you had was so diverse. It was all mixed people, it was all different things, um, but again, with such great ideas and things to make and do, I was really excited. I still have day three to watch. I did one and two and I was able to attend the happy hour on Thursday, unfortunately that week, which is unusual, but I missed the Wednesday and Friday, but I was able to get on the. Thursday, I'm going to watch the others.

Deb: 19:04

It was great to see you. Yeah, okay, you're going to love day three. Day three, I'm trying to think right now. I know the ice cubes are on day three. Okay, and they. It's really cool because Katie from Soborish Mom on Instagram she shares about, like, how to fancy up your ice cubes. You will love it because you can fancy up your drinks with like the like just easy, easy, make these fun ice cubes. So you'll be ordering. Yeah, I'm sure your daughter will be getting you ice molds, probably.

Kim: 19:28

Oh yeah, I'm sure she's probably not ready yet and I'll have to learn about all the. I know that you can add all little things to them. I haven't done a lot of that yet, so that'll be fun.

Deb: 19:37

Yeah, just, we just got to keep it fun. Yeah, I was like you, I wasn't making cocktails, you know. So, yeah, I've like collected all the bar, you know, gotten the bar aware now as I've gone along and stuff. So, yes, well, I'm so glad you were at the summit, I'm so glad it was an encouragement to you.

Kim: 19:49

Oh, it's fantastic. I hope that you know you'll do another one, I'm sure.

Deb: 19:53

But for sure. Yes, so I've already started my lists of like for sure. Next January 2025, we're definitely doing mocktail summit again. And then on the last happy hour, somebody was mentioning like maybe doing one like dry July. Somebody's like, oh, we should do one every quarter. I'm like I don't think I can do one every quarter, but I don't know that I have the bandwidth for that but maybe like dry July, maybe a mini summit or something.

Kim: 20:14

I don't know.

Deb: 20:15

Yeah, I would be fine, you know, maybe just like a one day, like a little pop-up summit, you know, I think that might be kind of fun.

Deb: 20:20

Yeah, that'd be great, who knows, who knows? So, yes, I'm so glad that you were there. It was so fun. I was going to ask you, okay. So when you're not drinking, all right, we're talking about, like, making mocktails and stuff like your beer and wine. Girl, when you're not drinking, are there some favorites now that you do enjoy, like, is there a mocktail that you love to make, or is there like a not-alcoholic beer that you've reached for, or alcohol-free wine? What's your favorite?

Kim: 20:42

You know there are a couple of different things, depending on my mood. With the beers I really tend to go. My husband is also a diabetic, so we tend to go to low-carb, lower-calorie beers. I love the Portaix but they're hard to get. They're low-carb, low-calorie. But I've also been drinking the Athletic Light but I love a Heineken Zero. If I'm out, you know like I'm pretty good with all the beers and then the Giesen that you're trying to be on to. I've been buying Giesen like crazy.

Deb: 21:07

Oh good, oh, I love to hear that it's my favorite.

Kim: 21:11

I really love it. The red, the Sauvignon Blanc, the Pinot Grigio, the rosé Isn't that good. I've got them all now my sister.

Deb: 21:20

I just got my sister a Pinot Grigio and she loved it and she's you know, she's a moderator, she's actually somebody who can moderate. Yes, you know so, but she loved it. Actually, she was on one of the happy hours for the summit and she was drinking her Giesen during the happy hour show.

Kim: 21:36

Yes, I love that now and then I loved the one drink that you did. It was on the Friday night D Is it the Gin Jam? Like has the jam been.

Deb: 21:46

Oh, we were gonna do it and I announced that we were making that drink. But yes, we were making a Spicy Margarita. But yes, the Gin Fizz, the Gin.

Kim: 21:53

Yeah, that's it. I love that one.

Deb: 21:54

The Jam Gin Fizz. It's really good, isn't it? Yeah, I love that.

Kim: 21:58

Easy, Mm-hmm. I'm so glad you love that, and I've been buying different little jams to make that with. And then you know, I wanna go through a lot of the other ones, but I keep hearing about the one that Richard Loud made, the Blood Orange Margarita.

Deb: 22:10

Yes, and we're gonna make that this week in our membership and making his Blood Orange.

Kim: 22:15

I know I'm volunteering this Thursday. Oh, you're volunteering, Okay, yes, well, I said, yeah, I sent out the recipe.

Deb: 22:19

So, yes, you're gonna have to make that. You will love it. Everybody's been loving that one. I think that was like one of the most popular mocktails. I think people just jumped onto the Blood Orange Margarita.

Kim: 22:26

Yeah, everybody seems to love it. I'm gonna have those Friday night. I'm gonna buy the ingredients on Friday night from my end to my week.

Deb: 22:34

Oh, okay, well, shout out to Rich Loud. Okay, I'm so glad. So you'll get to make that Friday night. Yeah, because Blood Oranges now are in, you know, in season, so you can get them at Trader Joe's. Yeah, I have a whole bag of them, I'm ready to go for a happy hour, Okay, so is sober life. Is it what you expected? Is it what you anticipated?

Kim: 22:49

You know yes and no, because again the fear going in of am.

Deb: 22:53

I boring.

Kim: 22:54

Am I gonna be different? How's everybody gonna take me?

Deb: 22:58

Because I'm a pretty high energy person and I thought well, I don't know like will I be exactly the same?

Kim: 23:03

And thank God, you know, I have a great time no matter where I go, and I've really learned that it was never the alcohol that was making the great time. You know, that just happened to be there. So if something is not alcohol now and in my glass, I can go and have just as great a time.

Kim: 23:21

And hey, like everybody says, nobody ever regrets waking up without the hangover, right, so it feels, awesome on Saturday morning to get up and get out early and do some yoga or go and workout, or you know. It feels amazing. I love it.

Deb: 23:35

It feels so good. Yeah, Not to have a horrible headache while you're trying to do yoga. That is not fun. No that is not fun. No, that is not fun. That is not a good time. Okay, any advice. If somebody's listening and they're just thinking about sobriety, or maybe they're just finished they just finished dry January, they're finishing it. You know, any advice maybe for them?

Kim: 23:52

Definitely Well. Number one of my biggest advice would be join them off to Elm group, thank you. I love the wonderful group and you know you are the best. And but again, it gives you things to look forward to. It teaches you how to make delicious things to drink, as well as have all the camaraderie and sharing with all the wonderful women that you'll meet in the groups. And also, I would say, you know, read the snake of mind. I think that's just so amazing, so influential. We have our book club on the happy hours and we have also read a few of the others and there are a lot of great resources. And the thing is, just go in with an open mind, with open hearts, and know that there are plenty of women just like you and go in and you'll be just fine. There's so much support, there's so much love and there's nothing better. I've been living alcohol free and happy and healthy.

Kim: 24:49

And that's the most important thing.

Deb: 24:51

Yeah, yeah, such great advice. No, yeah, and I know that book was life changing for you. It's naked mind. So, yeah, absolutely, and so she's got a free program you can do, I think for 30 days. Yeah, so I definitely recommend that to everybody. Yeah, yeah, great advice, kim, okay, I just love you so much. Love you back punches Seriously thank you for being on today and for encouraging me on my journey. I just can't tell you how much your support means to me. It really, really, really means a lot, so thank you, my friend.

Kim: 25:17

Thank you thanks so much, my friend.

Deb: 25:21

Big time cheers to you for tuning in to the Thriving Alcohol Free podcast. I hope you will take something from today's episode and make one small change that will help you to thrive and have fun in life without alcohol. If you enjoyed this episode and you'd like to help support the podcast, please share it with others, post about it on social, send up a flare or leave a rating and a review. I am cheering for you as you discover the world of non-alcoholic drinks and as you journey towards authentic freedom. See you in the next episode.