New Masters of the Arcane Season | Ranking Every New Card In June | May Cards In Review | The Snap Chat Ep. 135

Will the Masters of the Arcane season bring some wonderful wizards? What were the changes in the most recent OTA? What are Cozy and Alex's final rankings on the cards that came out in May? Join Cozy Snap and Alexander Coccia as they chat about this and more on this episode of The Snap Chat and every week as they discuss all things Marvel Snap.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction and Season Overview
• 0:21 Family and Weather Chat
• 0:43 Snap Video Discussion
• 1:26 Magic and Wizards Talk
• 7:03 Today's Topics
• 8:05 Merlin Card Breakdown
• 20:14 Morgan Le Fay Card Analysis
• 27:33 The Ancient One Card Review
• 32:39 Nightmare Card Discussion
• 35:16 Discussing the Meme Card Potential
• 35:58 Rating the Card's Playability
• 36:12 Comparing Card Transformations
• 37:35 Concerns About Early Game Strategy
• 38:06 Debating the Card's Reliability
• 38:50 Snap Initiative and Card Synergy
• 41:00 Rating the New Card: Clea
• 41:45 Analyzing the Card's Synergy
• 42:37 Potential and Limitations of the Card
• 45:15 Introducing the Big Bad: Dormammu
• 46:03 Dormammu's Complex Mechanics
• 46:52 Strategizing with Dormammu
• 48:31 Comparing Dormammu to Competitive Cards
• 51:01 New Ways to Play Destroy
• 52:25 Series Four Cards: Jennifer Kale
• 54:07 Series Four Cards: Nicholas Scratch
• 57:18 Series Four Cards: Kid Omega
• 58:53 Series Four Cards: Cobra
• 1:00:51 Ranking the Best Cards of the Season
• 1:05:12 Reflecting on Last Month's Cards
• 1:10:45 Card Ratings and Win Rates
• 1:11:04 Surge vs. Doom 2099
• 1:11:50 Late Night Energy and Life Decisions
• 1:12:28 Moving to California
• 1:12:56 Prodigy and Card Evaluations
• 1:14:28 Lighting Setup and Streamer Life
• 1:15:25 Elixir and Card Release Timing
• 1:17:40 Zorn and Series Four Cards
• 1:19:35 Surprise Series Four Cards
• 1:23:26 Final Rankings and Reflections
• 1:24:33 Mic Pillow Idea and OTA Discussion
• 1:25:29 Snapchat Mailbag
• 1:40:57 Closing Remarks and Future Content

Transcript

Cozy: 0:00

What's going on guys? And welcome back to yet another episode of the Snapchat. Happy summer and happy June and brand new season. We have the masters of the Arcane the Wizard season upon us with some really interesting and good cards for Marvel Snap. And it's gonna be a good way to kick things off. This is gonna be a strong month, man. I'm pumped to talk about it. How you doing today, man? How you doing?

Alex: 0:23

I'm doing great, buddy. We Had some good weather here in Canada. We got birthday party from my son. We got drum kits and everything for him. It was so fantastic. Had all the family over and was playing different instruments and stuff. It was one of those weeks where it was like, the weather was nice, family's over and you just like hell yeah, man. This is what it's all about. You know what I mean? It was a really, it was a really nice weekend, I gotta tell you. It was fantastic.

Cozy: 0:43

Love it buddy. We listen at first, did you see we don't always get the luxury of the Snap videos coming out prior to recording, but we've been lucky this time. And did you see it, did you get the chance to see what I thought was one of their better? One? It could've, it, it could've come off as low budget, but I actually thought it was solid.

Alex: 1:01

It was by far their best like new card hype video they've done I remember why, I was like, wait a minute, this is a joke. And I'm trying to remember from like my internet archive of what this was referencing. And it took me a while to figure out all I knew what was, but I recognized it immediately, especially with the, it was honestly broad, crushed it. The whole thing was well done. I think it was by far the best season video they've done.

Cozy: 1:26

Yeah. I, again I feel like I've talked about this on the Snapchat at some point, but like for whatever reason when in like my youth and even now I'm a sucker for magic dude. I've always liked magic, not magic the gathering, although there is that. And funny enough, I actually talked to Ben Broad two days ago.'cause I reached out to him. I was like, Hey man. Awesome performance. It came out really well. And then we were talking about Command Air. I was asking about some of his favorite colors. Anyway long moving on Magic has always been super fascinating to me. So when like David Blaine blew up and Chris Angel more, David Blaine, Chris was okay to me. But David, to me, I was like, I always thought it was so fascinating. So I watched the hell out of it. So I knew immediately what more of what he was doing. But the street magic bit wa was too good. They've done that on like SNL and stuff before, but I thought Ben's performance was top notch.

Alex: 2:10

Oh it was fantastic. It was awesome. And actually there's this new show on Disney Plus called do Not Attempt, and I'm struggling to, it's either Chris Angel or David Blaine. Now I'm mixing the two up in my head. This is so shameful. I've watched like four episodes of it too, and I can't, anyways. It's worth watching. It's so cool. And it's interesting'cause he goes to all different places in the world to learn like magic in that area. So he goes to Southeast Asia and he sees kinda like buskers in the street and they're like eating glass and they're like getting spikes and they're putting it through their chest somehow and all this crazy stuff. Like really, like he's finding magic all through the world. And it, it's just, it's fascinating to watch. And the title's perfect. Do not attempt, do not attempt any of this stuff. He does some really cool stuff.

Cozy: 2:50

Seeing Copperfield in his prime, like before technology was super advanced I think would be awesome. I think like that would've been sick. And this, that's, we're talking about magicians, but this season is about wizards. I've got another question before we hop into Snap. What is the, what do you think is like the top, what's the Mount Rushmore of Wizards out of video? All the wizards, what are the most powerful in your head? Because I was trying to think of some ways.

Alex: 3:15

I'm not ready for that question. Gandalf came to mind immediately. I

Cozy: 3:18

think Gandalf's on there. I think he's gotta be, he's gotta be on there. The

Alex: 3:20

problem is there's Gandalf and Dumble. Dumbledore, and they're they're both casted by the same guy.

Cozy: 3:24

Dude, I feel like Dumbledore's, does he make I feel like he makes it by fame. By fame, but would he make it by power? That's the question. Because I think strange is up there for sure. Strange's gotta be. There's no question Merlin do, but Dr. Strange. Yeah. Dr. Strange. He's a wizard man. Yeah. He's definitely a wizard. It counts.

Alex: 3:41

Yeah. I, yeah, I guess that, that makes perfect sense. Or man, I would definitely say Gandalf's near the absolute top.

Cozy: 3:46

If you think an old man wizards, then it's definitely Merlin, Dumbledore, Gandolph and the dude from Wizard of Oz, even though I think he's, you know what I get

Alex: 3:54

what you're saying about Dumbledore though. Dumbledore was like, he was a man of reputation and less about action. Like people respected Dumbledore. True. And I'm trying to remember, I read the whole Harry Potter series

Cozy: 4:04

until he did that on the movies until he did that water ball spell. I was like, you never seen

Alex: 4:08

the movies? What do you mean? I've read the books and not the movies. I don't know, man. Do I gotta watch those movies? Now? Are you adding more movies to the list? What did you sold Drew Shutter Island Else did

Cozy: 4:17

five to 2015 or 2000 from two. Like what were you doing during that time? The Harry Potter? You just, you've never, I was playing

Alex: 4:24

World of Warcraft. What were you doing

Cozy: 4:26

that too? But I was on a good old Saturday night. I was popping on the uh, you haven't seen any of them?

Alex: 4:33

No. I haven't seen any fair. You've, the books, I don't believe the actors, like I know the actors, but

Cozy: 4:37

yeah, I find that funny too.'cause you knew the, but you read the books and you didn't want to see the film after reading the books.

Alex: 4:44

Yeah, I do. I do wanna see them, but I just never they're not on Netflix. I think they're on some really suss thing in Canada that I'm like, I don't wanna subscribe to that. And the DVDs are still surprisingly expensive. Not DVDs, Blu-Rays, I should say Max. I bought a DVD in 2025. Maybe I should watch it. I bet you my kids would like to watch it. You have

Cozy: 5:01

too much things ahead of it though. Totally. You've got a lot. You've got the inception you've got inception, you've got this now you've got what was the other one that I had? Shutter Island. I just finished. See, I'm running outta stuff to watch. Me and my wife just watched some show called Sirens. It was, it's okay. It was a little weird. It was okay. I think it was like a seven out Ted, if you're curious. Anyone watching. And there was that

Alex: 5:21

other one you told me to watch too. Was it? Oh my gosh. Severance You told me I had to watch too. And people. That's pretty good. And the comments were telling me there's apparently there's some coach on Apple TV that I have to watch some. He's a coach. I don't know. Oh, Ted Lasso. Ted Lasso people said, I would really like Ted Lasso. You would like Ted Lasso? Apparently I give lasso Ted lasso vibe. I

Cozy: 5:40

would say yes. I would actually say out of everything we've talked about, Ted Lasso is at the top of the list that you should watch specifically,

Alex: 5:47

but the top of list changes every single week. How? No, that's top just because

Cozy: 5:51

of you. Like you are Ted lasso, essentially. And that's good thing. That's what everyone says. I'm like, how am I Ted lasso? I

Alex: 5:56

don't, apparently he's like a, he's a coach or something, but I'm not wholesome. Actually, I was a coach for a while.

Cozy: 6:00

You're a wholesome, you're, it's wholesome. It's wholesomeness, but it also has a little bit of everything in there. So it's top notch. I'm still blown away that you thought Alicia Keys was Beyonce's daughter and combine that with, you haven't seen Harry Potter. There's a lot that I'm always mystified. You might be the biggest wizard that I know. I just you always shock me.

Alex: 6:17

You know what? It's funny, people in the comments, there's two camps, right? There's people that think it's funny and there's people that are actually like insulted by it. There group of people, I'm a little. There was a co, there were a couple comments where like I, you made mention of something and I'm like, I don't know what that is. And people were like, bro, I don't wanna listen to this guy talk about Marvel stuff if he doesn't know what blank is. And I'm like, I've never heard of it, Mike. I know he doesn know

Cozy: 6:39

JayZ, he can't talk about Dr. J. It's that's nothing to do with it. I think it was

Alex: 6:43

when I said I didn't know anything about Secret Invasion. I think that tilted people out. There was a couple guys who were like, no, Alex doesn't exist in my mind anymore. Because that's, if you don't know Secret invasion, you can't talk about Marvel. No. So I'm okay. I gotta resub to, I gotta get some comics or something.

Cozy: 6:58

You can, you could probably miss that one. Buddy, we've got a lot to talk about there. So a ton of cards coming guys. And this is by far, what all I'm telling you is I've got, you've got multiple fives this season. I've got multiple fives. No, I got two fives.

Alex: 7:11

You have multiple fives? I got two fives. Two. This season, honestly, I got a lot of four point fives, maybe fives. I wasn't willing to commit to five, but maybe there's one card that I just might, we'll talk about it probably really soon. But even ranking the cards. Dude, there's 10 carts. I was like, this is so hard to rank. I was, honestly, I'm so nervous about this episode. There's so many cards. Have notes. Actually think they're far better this month than they were last.

Cozy: 7:35

I, we've had friends in town. I've been on the beat. I have just zero notes, so I'm going all off of just the old imagination. I, I am ams, but that's how I like it the best, man. That's where I, that's where we, it all thrives together. Alex, we know what we're talking about on this side. Because we have Ted cards. It's the cards. Alex, what are we talking about on your side of the Snapchat?

Alex: 7:51

Cozy. On my side of the Snapchat, we're gonna be doing a complete review of all the cards that released last season, giving our impressions, and of course going through our prior rankings. We'll also be talking about the OTA, giving our hot takes and letting you guys know what we think. And then as always our Snapchat mail back.

Cozy: 8:05

Buddy, we've got Merlin, the game Changing Wizard coming as a two cost, three power card. And he reads at the start of each turn, add an incantation to your hand. Now there's a lot of these to go through. Not really. There's a few of them, but you've got two threes, so you've got good stats. Off the rip. Let's talk about Merlin. And I guess before we dive in, actually I always like the initial, so we don't build up our hype or not hype later. What are you giving them?

Alex: 8:33

Also, let's just state for the record that this has been years of me giving star ratings first and potentially embarrassing myself ahead of you. I almost find it so much more stressful giving the star rating. We can also, so I. I almost, I do appreciate that, Cozy. But you know what, this has been working for us for years now, so let's keep it going. This, I almost gave this five. I do think Merlin is gonna be one of the new, oh, this goes pretty point much whenever I want it. I did 4.5. I don't like the 0.5 and the reason why I did 4.5 was'cause I think it, it could touch five, but I don't think it's like an obvious oh, Serer release five. Or I don't see oh, this is gonna actually destroy Snap five. I just think it's gonna be a really good card and probably, definitely worth having in your collection. I think he's a

Cozy: 9:15

five without even hesitation. I think he's a full five. Really? You think he's there? Yeah. I think he's a full five. I think he is too good. I think he's too good. I, okay.

Alex: 9:23

That's interesting.

Cozy: 9:24

Yeah, dude, just look at everything he does and the amount of different decision making and how much that's gonna impact games in Snap and the. Man, I just, I think he's got so much going for him. This is probably my favorite card of the month. I can even spoil that. Maybe there's one other one that I have right there with him. But this is a solid five and I think, so we'll break it down. We'll get into more specifics, but again, we've got that, we've got that two, three, Mr. Alex. And let's talk about the the different things that he can start creating. Now each turn, he's going to great one while he is out there, right? While he is out played on the battlefield. So first up, we got the classic Polymorph. So on reveal, transform your lowest powered card here into one that costs two more. This is a one cost skill card. So this is the first one that we'll talk about. And this alone, I'm just, I'm saying seems pretty strong and really a lot of why I can give a good amount of my no hesitation of a five star. Is that I feel like, dude, this guy can fit into anything and make several archetypes way better. Like every now and then we get some cards like that only fit in one archetype, but we could almost give it a five, like serer'cause he does such a good job. I feel like this guy can be played all over. And then there's a couple things that he really amps up. But Polymorph man sounds pretty damn good. It's a, it's like a Circe for one card, but it costs two more and it's only one to play.

Alex: 10:48

It's phenomenal. And the other thing about it too is it can be used both offensively. Like you can use it on something like a hood, right? Turn a hood into a gladiator. That's a pretty good trait. And you have the demon in your hand, of course. Do bear in mind, this is also a counter play to something like a clogged deck they throw over hob goblin, you turn it into, I guess rim or scar. And then you get something like a green gowin turn into a five cost, get a debris rock, turn it into a three cost. That's pretty cool, man. Honestly, if you think about the ability to use it offensively with the hood or defensively while you're being clogged it really does provide a lot of versatility for for the player playing it.

Cozy: 11:21

It's the fact that yes, Merlin's gonna be costing extra energy, but I love the fact that you're gonna have all these different plays that you can do as you curve into what is the given situation. But yeah, to your point, don't wanna spoil too much, but I will say, I think Bounce is really cool here. I think Joaquin, who doesn't get played much at all, Joaquin, all of these are on reveal cards, so I don't really know how that'll exactly transpire and if you're gonna want to do that, but I think it's a cool synergy. But I think Bounce is just a good example of one that I think is a cool archetype that should just work well and then clog to your point as well.

Alex: 11:53

Yeah, there's a lot of really cool synergies. I actually thought about what about the century and void combo? Like you can polymorph the void. That's like void into Dr. Doom, Hey, that's, I'll take that all day long, right? So yeah, what

Cozy: 12:06

I love about that is you've got the incantations that you can have, in your hand to play at a later time. Or if you wanna just play it on curve to get a little bit of that advantage, it can be built around a lot of those decks, but this is just one of'em. But going up two is crazy. Dude, a three to a five after you've used its ability that you need to use, or not as many, but four to a six that's definitely pretty strong, especially for those last desperate hope plays. On turn six where you're definitely gonna lose, but you are looking at what's available and you can maybe get something to work. And this is being a big part of it, obviously, lowest power card, you can make some interesting things outta that because it's not cost, it's power. I think this one alone is really cool.

Alex: 12:45

There's lots of locations that this will synergize with too. Like when you get the Raptors or the Ninja dudes or the Discard and put a rock there or whatever, right? There's lots of things that just junk your board up. Like even locations junk your board up. Central Park is awful. I hate Central Park man. What do we just freaking squirrels everywhere all the time. And I think that obviously it'll do more to provide you with some utility where your opponent's I guess I'm playing with squirrels. In my experience though, every time it's Central Park, I'm against a Patriot player. Un like believably. But anyways yeah, polymorpho.

Cozy: 13:13

And then next up we have Omniverse presence. Another one Cost Skill on Reveal will replace this location with a new one and give Merlin plus two power Scarlet Witch and absolute shambles At this point this is literally just the, this is so bad. It's almost man I wish I, I think Scarlet's more powerful than Merlin. What are we doing? They gotta re-release her or something if they're gonna go that route. But again. We know location control is very powerful. This is really interesting of a car that you can just hold onto for one cost. You just have this in your hand that how many times you play and rely on a location for the reason you're winning, or the opponent is, or there's, a, something massive can change. If you could just change that. Oh, and on top of that, you can give Merlin up to a two five. Good old shout out to Lizard of Old I I. This is also cracked.

Alex: 14:02

It's absolutely cracked. It's phenomenal. Location control's huge in Snap. Good enough that they took it off. Rhino, when they buffed him, they're like, bro, we can't have Rhino being too good. So they took it away from Rhino to give it to Merlin over here, which is nuts. And yeah, Scarlet Witch, what are you gonna even do? I think Scarlet Wish you need to be completely reworked, like six cost card change all three locations and summon wicked and speed or something like that. She needs to do something completely wild. I think changing all three locations, kinda but like instead of Legion it's like all random locations or something. Yeah. Could be cool. I don't know, man, whatever. But no it's totally funny how that works, honestly. The other thing is that like it could work in like Cerebro decks. We're seeing Cerebro location control's important there. But keeping in mind that this will Buff Merlin, does C five make a comeback? Yeah. Just throwing it out there. Maybe.

Cozy: 14:46

So I wanted to, I wanna back up and you mentioned Wcan. I actually think Merlin is like one of the best Wiccan cards.'cause you have this card that can. Like definitely help you fill that middle gap. He's perfect. Especially if you were like to

Alex: 14:57

keep bishop up.

Cozy: 14:57

Yeah. I think he could be really strong just to have more dependable of that ramp. But this is what I'm saying. You've got polymorph, you've got omni universal presence, okay. Both of which just give you so much control, power, and options and different ways to get outta situations. This is a two cost card that's not doing anything but putting these in your hand. Lastly, we've got a one energy zero power card. Your skill card on reveal. Shuffle your lowest power card here into your deck, and you get plus two energy next turn. So your lowest power card goes into the deck. Something like the hood, which is obviously very strong. And then you get plus two energy the next turn. So we've got a one cost card that's gonna give you ramp of two, bro. All of these, there's only three options too. I love the lack of options because it means that all of these are going to be very good over the course of the game. On curve. It's crazy, but even not still very good. I think this is a no-brainer. Five, and I don't even know how you end up fixing some of the stuff that they're gonna be creating.

Alex: 15:59

I am just excited for the first time in Marvel Snap's history. Baku is gonna be a fi a, a steer guard. You Baku once and future back in your deck. He comes down from the top rope for the win. Oh, what a beautiful sight, man. It's gonna be so nice. I can't wait for it. Berlin's great. I do think Merlin's really good. Also it's worth noting that omniverse presence destroys magic too. Not this particular card, but the one prior.'Cause he just has everything. He has location control. He has ramp. He's like a jack of all treats. And if you can think critically about, like we mentioned Keith Bishop there in passing Keith Bishop was a season pass card has ultimately been a pretty reliable good card. Just a good card you put in many places. This feels like it has a higher ceiling. This definitely has a higher ceiling than Kate Bishop and Kate Bishop has proven to be a legit card. You

Cozy: 16:44

know what options can do in the game. And maybe I'm dead wrong, but I feel like he's going to continue to age and I have no question about it. He'll be nerfed by August. That's my guess. I think mid, no July's too soon. I think end of July, early August, he gets a Nerf. The

Alex: 17:01

season past p plot armor here. Remember that? He

Cozy: 17:03

does. Yeah. That's why I gave it till later. But that's how good I think he is, man, because the two, three, you've got the solid stat line. I don't think he stays at two three. That's one way you hit him and then you just have outs, like you just said. You have like control of locations. You have control of ramp to help you out in the future. All of these are one, it's the thing is they're all one cost. That's what really gets me going crazy. Like how does this guy live in Infinity Old ultra and stuck with what he's got? It's crazy.

Alex: 17:27

Yeah, I know the card's really good. The only reason why I went to 4.5, I wanted to give him five and for the record in our rankings, I do have him at one for this season, so I am agreeing with you here. The only reason why I didn't give him a five. Because I almost, when I give a five, I almost want that oh, this card's broken. I think like for instance, I gave Scream a five. I gave like when I see a really oh yeah, this thing's getting nerfed a hundred percent. I don't know if Merlin gets nerfed. Like I know you're saying like it's coming For sure. I don't know if he completely breaks the game. I think he's making some cards completely power crap like Scarlet Witch we joked about and stuff like that. He is very good. And actually something you touched on too, which I think was a great point, is the lack of options. It makes him much more consistent. And we joked about oh, we were scared of Nico Minoru. This is a, has half the cards of Nico Minna. Half the versatility perhaps, but double the reliability. You know what you're getting right.

Cozy: 18:20

I wanna take this moment to say hello real quick down there in the corners. You see there's Alex and Cozy in the future. Going back to this take and reacting to the content of one of us being dead, dead wrong. I, but hello I,'cause I think we're saying hi to Alex. Hi Alex. Of the how you, why are you looking like that? Why are you looking down? Alex, it wasn't that wrong. You weren't. Hey, no, you could be completely right. Yeah. So anyway, two, three, man, all these skill cards, keep in mind they're skills that's gonna be important to remember. And it's, yeah I think this is one of the more exciting season pass cards. This is a must pull, must buy. If you play the game, any capacity, no matter the deck type, you are going to enjoy this card. You're gonna play it. And we're not even scratching the surface. Take those three cards and then just look at all the DI mean, different archetypes that this can fit in reliably with a ramp option, with the polymorph option. And then obviously with the the location change less or so.

Alex: 19:10

There is something super important that you just mentioned by accident. Okay. We'll talk about it later, but Nicholas scratch. Yep. We are getting a scaler that can scale with this card already, which is really important too. That's a really well played Cozy there. But yeah I'm excited for this card and I think that honestly, and for what it's worth, I think it's a good choice for the season pass. They could have went sexier and could have went dormammu with the season pass. However, Duam I think is gonna have a much more narrow focus and I think that anybody like the average player playing Marvel Snap casually, I think Merlin will be a better card for them because it can fill gaps in collections the way Duam is likely gonna be unable to, do you know what I mean? Like it's just a good the way Copycat was like, oh, you don't have that card. Just play Copycat

Cozy: 19:52

Aham came out of this month last year. Aisha's that old. Yeah. No way. So it's funny that Dorm Mama's coming out because. It's like they do. It's like we get one, we've got high Evo. You get that, you get air show, you get that. It's like one of those game changer. I'm interested to talk about him. We'll get to him. He's definitely spicy though. He's gonna be an extremely fun one to talk about. Let's move on though. We've got Morgan Lafe. Anything else on Berlin? By the way, I feel like we could literally talk up Berlin for 30 minutes. Like I, there's so many different little things about where you can utilize him even what was, what one of those skill cards. Oh, polymorph. Jubilee. I was thinking about that. You play down Jubilee of old because I was thinking about Log jaw. You throw that down. Jubilee, boom, bring something down. And then you polymorph the Jubilee that four one into a six.

Alex: 20:38

True. Yeah.'cause Jubilee's always felt like a little bit of dead weight there.

Cozy: 20:41

I'm there's way more examples of, this is all I'm saying. We've

Alex: 20:44

barely, like how dare you give yourself the wife Who? Morgan Lafa. You give me nightmare. Oh, I like, listen,

Cozy: 20:50

I hadn't have noticed. I just. I just plopped them down. I just put one on side. No, you know what you did side. I can either confirm nor deny that I wanted mine where I have mine. And you

Alex: 21:01

always get the yfu in the graphics that you always have the y always

Cozy: 21:05

Do I usually get the Yfu? Probably. I think so. I think I think that might be Morgan LA phase A four cost, seven power card. Alex, on reveal return all of your discarded and destroyed cards throughout the game to your hand with plus three power. How do you feel about Morgan?

Alex: 21:24

Bro? This is one of the ones, I don't know what to rate it. I have it currently starred three question mark is what I have in my notes because this is one of those ones I know we go back to it. We say this often. I think it's a really cool card. I think it's a really cool design. I really think they cooked with this. I like it. However, I don't know if it's good. Like I, I don't know if it's good or not. And so I've been trying to figure out like, what am I gonna do? Is it a discard card or is it a Destroy card? Because we've had cards that like, have both texts like X 23. It's very rarely a discard card, and that is a destroy card. Where does Morgan Lafe Dr. Fall? Is it really discard? Is it really destroyed? Yeah. Where is it? Man, I've been all over the place with this card. I just, I'm really tossed up with that. I've, I'm going with the three star, but honestly that's a very hesitant I'm honestly not sure. I, I just, I'm punting on this one. Like this one is a really weird one.

Cozy: 22:13

Yeah, I think she's really fun because here's the deal. This is what I thought about her. I thought to myself, if you get to play her, I think she's fantastic. I think she's very good. The problem is if you don't get to play her, what does the deck look like? What are you building to make her work really well? Because if you play her, I think she's a. Good guard, bro. Plus three, stupid for four seven. That's really good. But then I was like what are you gonna play? What do you destroy? And then what do you play? And there's a lot of steps to your point, and to what you said, you've gotta set up a lot to get her to work, right? I think though, when I was going through the options of what you can pull off with her, you can't have anything too expensive because it's already turned five, right? You play here in four, all these, whatever happens, comes back. And so you have to be somewhat careful of what you're working out, bro. Is this one of those Death Zoo decks, right? So you've got all these cheap one cost cards. You have Killmonger, you have death in your deck, you have all these one costs. You destroy them with Kon on three, you play her on four, they come back, you get all these one costs with plus three on them. And then, it might not cooking. I feel like this is a hundred percent you're cooking. I think this is it. You're cooking. You could do what is that? What's that? SOB you could do bullseye, you could do some discord stuff. That works like ramps into it. But what I don't like about that is discard can have things happen that you don't want to happen, right? There's some funky things like bullseye safer I guess. But I think that the story zoo is the play. I think I actually, that to me it's a whole new way to play that archetype and that's what has me pumped about it. I'm gonna give it a four.

Alex: 23:42

Okay. Ooh, that's nice. I think four, five worth, dude. 3.5. I'm gonna go back 3.5. Okay. Fourth's worth. I think it could totally be a four. I just, so while I was trying to like figure. Out my notes for the pod. What I came up with is precisely what you were just discussing. Think about its synergy potentially with fire, hair, and misery. So fire hair had been largely underplayed despite the fact I'm still, I still think fire hair's a great card. I still think it's a great card. It just hasn't found its niche yet, but when it does, it's gonna be fire. You like that. And misery, I think has been seeing play here and there. So those are ways instead of Killmonger, you could be using fire, hair, misery stuff. I thought about what if you drop a one drop let's say you do Silver sable or rock raccoon, two in one. Turn two, you do something like a fire hair and then on turned. I dunno. Turn four you misery, whatever you've been playing, you blow them up. Turn five. You Morgan, LA Flay. Oh sorry. Turn two is black swan. Okay, that's what I meant. That's what's missing there. Yeah. Yeah. You have black swan on the board on turn two and then on turn five you play Morgan La Flay after you blow them up on the turn four with misery and then when you bring them all back, they're one cost you can activate Black Swan not only getting the plus threes, but they're gonna be free in your hand too. I was trying to figure out how that deck could work and I just described it in like the worst possible, most confusing way possible. But what I'm trying to say is I think that there is a way to make a Black Swan one drop deck. Possibly even with something like a Joaquin Torres Falcon work with this, what it looks like right now, I'm still trying to iron out, I it, I'm treating Morgan Lafaye as like a deck design challenge for myself. But Cozy, I think you're on the right track. I think the Destroy side is probably better than the discard side. And I think we have better tools in fire here and misery.

Cozy: 25:20

Yeah. And so what I was saying to allude at the beginning is that like when you get to play that, I think it's almost game winning. I think you'll win with that kind of deck, but if you don't, how strong is the Zoo death deck in its current form And what are your backup options? So that's what I think of. Maybe Merlin, maybe you got these ones in your like Polymorph and stuff like, I don't know. But who else do you have on top of that? Oh okay, maybe you do Merlin and Nicholas scratch and we get to him and then you, I scratch is building up. There's stuff you can do here. And I love the idea of all these cheap skill cards, all these cheap zoo cards. It, to me that's the more I play Snap, the more I realize. I like playing cheap stuff and not the stuff that just takes so much to get done. You know what I mean? I like playing cards and that. I feel like this is a cool deck to do.

Alex: 26:07

Hey, listen to this. This is, I was just thinking about this. Wanna hear something stupid? Okay, watch this. You play one drop on turn. One turn two blocks, Swan turn three, Shauna. Okay, there.

Cozy: 26:14

Turn

Alex: 26:14

four. Skill monger, whatever you want. Iron. Turn five. Morgan Lafe activate black swan. You have a, you have multiple random one drops. You don't even have to play the ones that are garbage. There you go. But they're like even a what's her name that tries to lose? Seanna would definitely be in the deck.

Cozy: 26:28

Yeah. Shauna's gotta be in the zoo deck. Oh yeah. Big time. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's sexy. Wait, when Shauna's on. Even

Alex: 26:34

go ahead. Like misery is like a what? Like a onee? Naturally. Yeah. Not misery. What am I talking about? No, not misery. Martyr. Yeah. Martyr. Martyr's. A onee. You got the hydration bobber. He is one seven. Like these are bro. Just bangers, man.

Cozy: 26:47

Did you see that? They're putting a bundle called Hydration, Robert.

Alex: 26:52

Someone tagged me on this. Marty, I'm so excited for it.

Cozy: 26:54

I'm excited for you. Look at you, man. You're making your stamp on Snap.

Alex: 26:58

I know. It's literally the most impact I've had on Snap Hydration, Robert, coming up. I wish they did hydration bobber.'cause it did evolve into hydration. Bobber. Okay, but I'll take hydration, Robert. I'm so proud of that. I can't wait when it goes out, I'm gonna do a screenshot of it. I'm gonna post to my YouTube community. It's gonna be a great day. I'm

Cozy: 27:14

proud for you. But yeah, anyway, I think destroy, definitely gonna hit here in Morgan Lafe. You've got a really fun archetype being made this month. Has a lot of cool new archetypes or sub archetypes that are gonna be made from it. And that's what has me pumped up. Morgan Lafe 3.5 consistency is my worry. Moving on, Alex, we've got the ancient one now. The ancient one is a three five honor reveal. You're gonna add Tau Mandala to your hand. Now, who is that? What do they do? Alex, it's a three cost card on Reveal. Copy the text of one of your ongoing cards here onto your other characters here. So this is another skill card on again, on reveal copy the text of one of your ongoing cards to your other characters. This one's interesting to me. What are we thinking about? What are we thinking about here? Go with the star rating first.

Alex: 28:09

Early star rating. I wrote four. I do think this is a good card. I have concerns though. Like I, I might even go 3.5. I don't like going to the 0.5. If I can avoid it, I'd like to stay at four perhaps. However, it is expensive to play. I think it does feel slow. Yeah. And that's my concern. Yeah. But man, is the ceiling high on this.

Cozy: 28:31

That's my concern was the slowness. Like I just went on that whole rant about, oh man, I love cheap cars to play. What does it look like? What are you playing on? One and two. And is it. The new cards probably like Nicholas scratch and then probably Merlin is like what you want to try to do. Then you play, you got this card, but you want these it doesn't even have to be Nicholas'cause you're actually wanting to turn some of these bad cards into the ongoing card. I just feel like it has, not that I don't know if it'll produce the same, but it has the same, like this, long mystique, gambit flavor. That's when you'll win. If you could pull things off that are really crazy and stuff, and you can go high and do some pretty, there's some super strong ongoing cards. Talk about that. What are some of your favorites here? What You give her a four.

Alex: 29:15

Yeah, but this is, again, this is a very hesitant form where like these cards, I think they're really scratching a very fascinating niche in a lot of ways. These are cards that I think they're very inventive. And I like the designs. Honestly, I think this month is impeccably well designed compared to prior months. So yeah I'm sticking with four here. Even early on I was like, Hey, what would I want to just flip over? Even as simple as an antman, like honestly copying an antman and then having all obviously the skill will disappear, but you copy turn everything into the ongoing of an antman. That's a lot of immediate power. In the video example, they provided something like a blue Marvel, which is cool. I think one of the challenges is can you isolate an ongoing card in a location to copy.

Cozy: 29:56

Yeah. While

Alex: 29:57

also having two other cards there, you'll never have four copies because the skill has to occupy one. But, so I'm a, I know man, I see it. I'm a four.

Cozy: 30:04

I'm a four with you. And not even, because I don't know, I don't know how this is gonna land, but it's mainly'cause I play a lot of Patriot. That's my comfort deck. That's what I love to play. And I think this is just a fun squirrel, girl patriot. You play this down, they all become Patriot. You finish with Ultron and then you've got like your three Patriots. I just think that's the stuff I'm gonna do. And I think there's enough of that out there. That warrants her to have some creative deck design. And so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. This is more of my fun four card, but it's probably like more like a three. But I think a four could be plausible.

Alex: 30:37

I'm hesitant on this. I feel like this is, of all the cards, one of them I can miss high on.

Cozy: 30:42

Yeah, for sure.

Alex: 30:43

But I just see it, man. I just think that there's a lot of very heavy combos that can be pulled off and not just like the Wong Combos, like they show a lot of those Wong combos are very greedy.

Cozy: 30:53

Yeah.

Alex: 30:54

Even something like copying a moonstone, like moonstone can be incredibly power. Ah, wait a minute. But if you're copying Moonstone, are you getting rid of all the other effects? I take that back. Hold on. I don't think Moon Stone works.

Cozy: 31:04

Yeah, never mind.

Alex: 31:05

Never mind.

Cozy: 31:05

That's fine. But what I, what I think why she should get a four, even if we're missing high, because like the fear of missing is okay, she just made to be a fun card. Like end of the day is that her design? Yeah, but there we're always gonna get ongoing cards, like specifically when we get stuff with on Reveal and ongoing, it just it tends to get me more excited for this car's relevance as we continue down Snap's line. Because you continue to have a car that can interact with ongoing cards that really want it to make it work. So I think that's why I like her. Moving forward, she's going to, this is a card that if you pull, you can't be mad.

Alex: 31:39

You know why I almost wanna draw mine to a three because Merlin's spells are all ones. And this is a three. It's expensive, bro. I it's a very, from a three, I

Cozy: 31:48

was a hard three and I'm like, I'll meet you at four'cause I wanted to meet you where you're at. I'll go right back down to three. You don't have to twist my arm,

Alex: 31:55

man. I don't know, man. I don't wanna convince you to be wrong. I'm gonna three.

Cozy: 31:57

I'm staying at three.

Alex: 31:59

I've moved. Okay. We going? We okay? We just doing this together. We just both going to three. I

Cozy: 32:02

think we

Alex: 32:03

go to three.

Cozy: 32:03

I think at the end of the day, there's no way, think about it. It's gotta be a three. Because if it, the things this could do too strong. If Toad was too

Alex: 32:13

cost skill would've been easy.

Cozy: 32:14

Of course. But it's too strong to be too reliable. That's my issue. Glenn's very careful with that. Does that make sense? Like this thing free. I know exactly what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. It's too strong to be too reliable. And that's how we get that's where the funness comes in. And that's where you see the fun cards, right? So what are other cards like that? Infiniti. Ultron not reliable. What could be strong? Like I, that's, I, that's probably, it's not as bad as that, but I'm gonna go three. Alright, Alex, next up is Nightmare. Who is a three cost negative one? We don't get a lot of negative cards, Alex, so why? Why is it a negative power card? On Reveal, replace the text of each card in your hand with text from a random card of the same cost. Oh man. Oh man. Oh man. We're gonna talk about the OTA on your side, but so on. Obviously going down and changing him altogether was a lot of why this guy is existing. Those two cards are gonna coincide together. We've got a new so on card, but we also have a new, very strong card, man. I, okay. Before we get into it, what do you rate this thing?

Alex: 33:22

I'm really nervous

Cozy: 33:23

about this. I'm giving you the two stars, two. I'm giving it two. Alex, it's not too late. I can edit it out. It's not too late.

Alex: 33:31

I know. I really wrestled with this one here in a three negative one. I think it might be bad. Do you think it's good?

Cozy: 33:40

I think it's pretty

Alex: 33:41

good. I'm so nervous about what this this is gonna be a really bad take. I'm so nervous. I, but

Cozy: 33:46

I think it's, I, you know what, before I get I want you to have the floor for a second. Why besides that it's a negative one. Why do you think

Alex: 33:55

it's bad?'cause I think it's probably a worse Mr. Negative. I think the way it's gonna play is not gonna be strong. I think you're playing having it come down on turn three with a lot of cards that you wanna flip is slow. I think that I think that when it was a two, two, I think it was very strong coming out that turn earlier. I think it was a big deal. Three negative one is just too much. I think it's a massive nerve. The only thing that gives me pause is obviously at two two it was completely broken, obviously. It was incredible. Okay. However, there are just too many question marks as to what you can get stuck with it. Like just, I just don't know. I just don't see it. There are some absolutely phenomenal hits that I can't wait to talk about that would prove my evaluation incorrect. I just feel like ironically, Mr. Negative is likely more reliable than this. And I don't like playing Mr. Negative and Mr. Negative all pretty good with Gore and stuff. I just see the holes in nightmare and I'm concerned with its power level.

Cozy: 34:53

No, I actually don't think this thing's like the best card of the game or anything. I, so I feel like it, you gave it a two, I think you're right. So a two Two, this was a five star to the Moon card. Yeah. To the Moon. Yeah. Now it is. Oh man, I don't, I'm gonna give it a four. I'm gonna go down to the five five. I'm gonna give it the benefit of the doubt. I'm not gonna give it a two. I think my issue is, I think it's a super meme card, like pixie in this sound awesome together, like in the craziest way. I think pixie in this is really fun. But the idea, dude, this has emperor hulking written all over it. The idea though, of playing an finite that puts out Dr. Dooms or playing a, an Ebony ma that you know has ant man's effect playing lizard red Skull man, red skull. It's just I like that it's the hand'cause you're able to control if you even want to play'em, like negative's the deck. And so then you have to like, hope you top deck the right things. This, you're not gonna play this unless you've got the red skull, unless you've got infinite. Maybe the Ebony Mall, I think this is a four. I'm gonna say four and a half. I'm going up.

Alex: 36:01

Wow. Four and a half. I'm just concerned, I don't wanna talk you down from your five, if you were thinking you wanted to give this five no. Five. I think five was more at the two, two I, when I was really sitting about this car listen, you can really get caught up on the crazy stuff. Think about a tma, typhoid Mary turning into Captain Marvel. That's pretty good, right? What about Red skull turning into Ironman? That is, is that not what you were just mentioning? That's a dream come true, right? How about destroyer or if infant not with Dr. Doom? Hell yeah. I just mentioned this as well. Here's another cook. Okay? As someone who loves Surfer, imagine brood with star brand's text or te sorry, star brand with broods text. How this cooking, right? This not,

Cozy: 36:35

how is this not a afford? Because I know you're gonna say'cause I know you what you've got. You're gonna be you've got the inverse. You've you're about to come in hot with that inverse'cause in for a huling, I was on the, I was on the train. I think that upside's too good in the fact of how you can control that at only a three Cause, and the sheer fact that he was a two, two. And not only did they have to make him a three cost'cause they're like two broken, they also had to give him negative three power. So he was clearly like, okay, this is the best card in the game so let's tame him down. And I don't think they'd take him from that down to a three or a two. I think they take him from that to a four, 4.5 very good card. Amazing. In the decks especially that he's supposed to work in.

Alex: 37:15

I agree. Here's the thing. Okay. Yep. So obviously he was broken as a tutu. They also pre changed Saron. If you think about what they did to Saron, they made it so sarn only affects the things like doesn't affect the things in the hand. Yep. Which leaves nightmare. The opportunity to then impact the things in the hand. Sars gonna strip the deck. Nightmare strips the hand. They work hand in hand together. No pun intended. However, my concern is that if you're playing stuff like Ebony MA and all these like suss high power cards that have all these downsides, what do your first two turns look like if you're like, assuming you're not just playing Sarah on stuff. Like what do your first two turns look? So

Cozy: 37:48

on is who you're playing. Turn you have to have so on. Yeah, probably.

Alex: 37:51

Sure. But like I'm saying there, there has to be other opportunities to play other archetypes too, to some degree.'cause I'm just saying that there's a chance that's not necessarily reliable. You are giving up turn three to play. Nightmare. Nightmare is a complete wash to play on turn three. It doesn't have the upside that Mr. Negative does.'cause Mr. Negative, you know exactly what cards are getting flipped for the most part. Obviously you draw your Ironman, that feels bad, but Mr. Think about how much more reliable, negative on three, rvoa negative into whatever, lady Jane. And then you pull all those cards and you have this God hand nightmare can give you a bunch of garbage. There's no guarantee. And now you have a three negative one on the board.

Cozy: 38:26

Lady Jane, first of all, you're mentioning like the one thing that is the most like, probably retreated thing in the game, right? So like that happens, people are out. Yeah. Okay. So there's that, there's the surprise factor. So you're not ever gonna get all, you're not gonna get that pulled off unless you're low ELO stuff. But then let's forget that then that's a plus for him because here's the deal, you play him out on negative you play him out as a negative one. Okay? Talk about the Snap initiative that you have.'cause now you get to see, you get to see what your red skull turned into. It's not a cce that's like going out on the board and then changing everything and you're like, I hope you get to see what happened. You Snap into it.'cause you see what Ebony ma became, you Snap into it'cause you saw the Captain Marvel, TMA or the typhoid Mary. And you have three more turns to not just cook, but like super cook, right? You've got the potential of those that crazy upside of a red skull with 15 power. There's really almost like a red skull with dno Devil Dino's power. Or his thing. There's just infinite scalers that are laying winners that are impossible to predict. Now you could say the same thing about Pixie, but all that is happening within the deck and this is within the hand and it gives you so much more agency.

Alex: 39:32

You know what? Cozy, I wanna say something. Okay. I don't wanna get off topic, but this is a perfect example of what makes me so nervous about the star rankings because if I want to play it safe, I would say, oh, three stars or four stars, whatever. And I'm not quite sure whatever, but I'm gonna be so nervous for the entire month. Don't be nervous. Screw, I gave this two stars. Who cares? No, because there's people that don't forgive these ratings, right? Whatever's

Cozy: 39:54

true. It's a video game. I know

Alex: 39:56

but for me, it's I. I want to provide the most honest interpretation of this card that I can. And for me in my heart, I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna stick my neck out a bit. I do think that this is potentially gonna underperform people's expectations. I can be absolutely wrong, right? But it's moments like this that, it just makes me nervous, man. You know why? You know the feeling, right? Nah, bro, I don't give, it just gets you nervous,

Cozy: 40:19

bro. You gotta own it. It is just, that's the fun part though. It's,'cause then you give power to the neck beards out there the internet typers, bro, you can't give the power to'em. It just doesn't. You are a YouTuber. You've got that shield of immunity built up on you, man. You gotta just not care what people think and you die on that hill that you thought it was gonna be bad. I think there's plenty of points why this could be bad. And I, and that's fine.

Alex: 40:39

I know. That's why I wanna stick to my guns and stay two stars.

Cozy: 40:43

Good. Do it man. I do think nightmare though, in those decks having a red skull that can move like vision, blah blah blah. I think that hulking as a six, as a final play was way too like Last card. Hail Mary. This is a three that you could curve into. I think he's dope. Alright, so going on to our next card. We have Lea now Lealea one, two. Alex, when this permanently gains power, add flames to ine to your hand. Definitely mess that name up. Now if if this is if in your hand or in play, so this is just like Sebastian Shaw. Now this beauty is gonna be a one cost skill card, zero power of course, on Reveal. Afflict an enemy card here with negative three power. A little bit of winds of oo reveal to it. Alex, what do we feel about this card and what are your thoughts?

Alex: 41:38

I love it. I think it's four, four and a half. Like I think this is a very strong card. I think we're getting a lot of synergy with it, with all the skills coming out. I like the idea that you can buffet in hand and on the board. I think that the flames of Ty or whatever is very powerful. I think it was data mind at negative two power. So it's a one zero negative three now, which is really strong. You're right, it's like wind of with tomb. And I think the key thing about it too is that there's a couple cards that I really like that I've been playing that I think will benefit this card. Like honestly Kari, like I've been one of the ones that I've been, even though I was ho hum on Kari, honestly in my review, it's been a card. I've been playing here and there whenever possible Kari pumps this card, right? Get a couple flames in your hand, stuff like that. And I think that the one negative three is really good. I dunno man, I like this card. I think it's potentially a very decent scaler.

Cozy: 42:26

I like want to really like this card. Like I like it a lot. And then I keep trying to think so this is one that I want to give a high star rating. I'm just trying to like, work out, play lines of how many times. So even if you get to do it once, he's a, it's a it's a, it's technically a two five, right? If you get to pull it off once, plus the card that you're buffing it up. So this thing's gonna scale up with it. I think it's so close to being good. I just, it's gonna be the perfect puzzle piece to a few decks. Like some of those scaling decks. It's gonna really be perfect there. Heck, maybe even in Surfer where you've got Sebastian and you're doing that anyway and you're trying to make that work, but then, Sebastian gets off the Surfer mainly. So how is this one gonna benefit from it? But we've got cars that are coming that are gonna give plus power a ton. That means this thing's always gonna be able to continue to get more cars to feed under it. I think people are low on this card for how many times you can get this thing to work for you, but it's gonna start adding up. And I think you could get at least a couple. And because of that, I'm gonna give it, I What did you get? You gave it a four.

Alex: 43:25

I'm gonna say four. Yeah. Four.

Cozy: 43:26

Yeah. Probably three and a half. Say four. I'm probably three and a half here. But this could age into a four because it does have cars that will come out that continue to get back. I, it, this is one of those that like when you look at Windwood Tomb and what that did, it makes you want to give this a much higher rating because that was just such a, oh, like that card was everywhere. So it's is this the same?

Alex: 43:49

I think that the buffet they gave to the negative three power is pretty significant. It just seems like it's probably gonna be good. It's good. It's just probably gonna be good. And being as inexpensive as it is. The only problem is it's the same problem. Sebastian Shaw had the cards that buff Other cards are generally not great. You're talking about ake Nikias, you're talking about Akos Khors Iron Heart. It needs permanent power. It can't be hit by like the larva. It has to be permanent power. And so there are a limited number of choices that provide that. Thankfully we do have something like Galata, which obviously is huge.

Cozy: 44:23

Yeah. That not there cost more typically. That's the thing. The ones that are good, they cost more. Like Nico's really cool here. I like Nico with this.'cause it's like that's an easy potential role into it that you get the plus one, you just put it right there. But you're right, it is, it's like, it's the same reason why Scarlet Spider like fell flat back then. We've gotten way more cards since then. But you're right, like the ones that are good cost too much. And then if you do go to this, what are you playing? What are you trying to put together?

Alex: 44:45

If you're playing, even if you za GED out on turn three, like you're playing this on turn four, it's like, why? You know what I mean? It's it's it's tricky. So I agree. That's the one challenge I see is I think the card is good. I think it's supporting staff is probably not.

Cozy: 45:00

Yeah. Yeah.

Alex: 45:00

I don't know, man. Theoretically I don't know. Will will FAOs work with it? I'm not sure. It has to be in hand or on field to play, not in deck.

Cozy: 45:08

Yeah.

Alex: 45:09

But also I think that it's probably good. I don't know. I just think the effect's good.

Cozy: 45:13

So those are all the fives except for one, Alex. The one that people have been waiting for door Mamu or Mamu is the car that when we used to get asked all the time, what card do we want to come to Snap? I constantly said, I want this guy right here. Seven costs, 10 power card game. Start, beginning, begin a summoning ritual. Add step one to your hand. Alright, we got a lot to break down. So let's go through it all then we'll talk about him as a main card, right? So step one, Alex zero zero on review. Merge your highest power destroyed card with door mamu. To continue, you need to do the action to continue. And once you've done so, you get step two. Now, Alex, step two, you might ask what is what could step two be? Step one doesn't seem great. I'm a little confused. It's a seven 10. Is this gonna be something that you want to play? I don't know, Alex, but we go to step two and we've got one zero honor reveal Al who steals one power from each card here to continue. So he is, he's the ever at. This is such a cool card, bro. What a, they cook so good here. And then lastly, step three, honor, reveal, destroy two of your characters here to summon, do Mamu. So these are all the steps. This is the ritual. He is a seven 10 at the base. Alex Kocha, I'm gonna hand you the floor. What do you think about the new big bad.

Alex: 46:32

I think it looks super cool. I think that it has a chance to bring a lot of interesting cards into the fold in the deck design star rating. I'm willing to go four stars here. I think that I see the potential, but it's also so complex that like I'm not quite ready to like. I don't know what my deck looks like yet.

Cozy: 46:51

Yeah.

Alex: 46:52

You know what I mean? I'm still building what this looks like to like on turn six, do I play Phoenix Force and Elixir? What am I doing? Am I bringing the two cards that got destroyed back, get that power where mom moves out, there's just power everywhere. What do those decks look like? I'm trying to answer that question. However, for me, this is like a must have card. This is like the big bad. You gotta have it even if it's not good.'cause even if it's not good, it's gonna be good. Eventually you want it in your collection. This is five star. You get it in your collection power level. Right now, in terms of what I'm seeing, I'm leaning towards the four star range.

Cozy: 47:23

This is what gets me pumped for having an audience. I can't wait to see what the viewers say. Double O like you could do this, and this.'cause I do think that they cook the cook for him. The deck for him is not out. It's not close to being conceived. No, this guy is gonna have a very, so like I wanted to give him a five'cause he's a big bad, right? Alioth came out swinging ridiculous. But Alioth works across the board. He is gonna be very. Niche. But that niche has got to be good. It's got to be good. So that's why I do think it's gonna be a four. I agree with you there. I don't wanna give him a five. I don't think he is worth a five. How often and how well can you do that? And what can you pull together? Like Phoenix four is a great example. You can make multiple men flying around a billion power. That's cool. That's it's topping what is door mama who's topping, like what is the reliable thing You can get happening a lot. And we've got a new way to destroy. You have, what's cool too is by step one, you're merging your card tool. It's not gonna be a lot of power.'cause you want to get these done quick, right? So it's like you're gonna be using destroy cards like Nico or Carnage or whatever to get that done. And so you're trying to speed through some of this. So what does that big picture look like? Like I, this is such a fascinating card to me.

Alex: 48:29

It is, it's a super fascinating card. The problem that I'm trying to figure out is, so you brought up RA SRA was very clearly a highly competitive card. It's design really lended towards competitive Snap. The challenge with Dormammu is that I can not yet determine whether or not it's like a cracked competitive card the way Aham was, or if it is gonna be a legitimately solid fun card that can potentially become a very competitive card with maybe, I don't know, I'm not gonna say a buff. I don't know if it needs a buff. I just can't tell where it falls in that line. It's clearly a very fascinating new take on playing Snap. But will it be competitive? And what's I think fascinating about Snap Players is we all want cards that are fun, but people also really like winning. Winning tends to be fun. I'm not sure how competitive this is yet. I almost just, I just need more time

Cozy: 49:23

to, it feels like such an MPG card. Like it, like that's how it reads. It feels like a commander card or something. Because first of all, step two is by far really strong. Being able to steal all that power from just a lane is awesome. So you get to steal all that power. Hell yeah. Step three. It's okay, destroy two of your characters here. Fine. That might, you might want to do that. You might want to get rid of Bucky Barnes that you have in a lane and something else, right? Whatever. Like you could set that up for success or they can be cheap things that you don't care about. I like the idea that he's like a bunch of things packaged into one and one of those things is like a ramp, like a cheat card. Like you're cheating something big out. How easy is it gonna be cheated out? It could be very easy dude to get done. It's a three costa to do that. So it's gonna be a late play minimum, but I still think it's this guy's got some strong possibility.

Alex: 50:11

The thing that really stands out to me from a design standpoint that I really like about it is it feels like you design its power.'cause you're stealing power, you're taking on what you've destroyed. And so you're you're putting in what you're getting out. And I think that's really cool. It's not just oh, it's just when you summon it, I'm assuming it's power's gonna be variable depending on what you've done to it, how much power you've stolen, kinda like Laie does and stuff like that. I don't know, man. I just I'm just excited to get my hands on it.

Cozy: 50:37

And what I think is cool is this is gonna add a lot to destroy too, because you've got let's say death getting cheapened by all this destroy happening. Okay? So then you have death that you could play on, let's say death goes down to a three cost, right? You put death down at three and then you put this down at three or five on turn five. You're gonna be able to combo two big cards being played or multiple big cards being played. That could all happen on, potentially even turn five into six. I, this seems like a new way to play destroy that's not just kill the big thing, getting old to happen. So that's gonna be its niche most likely. But then there's also gonna be decks that are just having the most random cards put together. It's whatever you're gonna combine this with to put big door Mamu in one lane and then whatever else with the rest of the energy you have in the other.

Alex: 51:20

It's also worth noting that it is a new way to play destroy, as you mentioned, because Deadpool Wolverine and, X 23, those don't, they don't get destroyed. Those are regenerated in a way. So if you're looking to play destroy and destroy things, you have to go a different route. And I do find that fascinating. So it is gonna carve out its own niche and destroy for sure.

Cozy: 51:40

Yeah, so I, and there's almost like that's the route to go with it, like building up those, how dependable can you do? It's another, it is a three cost, so you got like venom and we have another way to cheap destroy that's always nice to have in the pocket. Nico's always been good for that chance, so you could steamroll this really well and make that work. Nico on one, destroying something on two, and then merging that the ritual is going, it's got some high upside and the animations, are gonna be fire. And so I, I don't know man. This is a fun one. I'm excited. I'm glad we know we're not both at five, although, yeah, we just have to see this could be like a clear obvious five than it belongs in destroy, but this one's definitely like way more puzzling.

Alex: 52:19

Yeah, no it definitely is a hundred percent. It's again, we say it all the time. It's a card you gotta get your hands on.

Cozy: 52:23

Next up is the series four cards. We have Jennifer, kale Jennifer is a two, two. Tutu that activate next turn. You get plus one energy. So you got side lock a little bit, but you can hold it on reserve. We've talked about this. We were up and down on it when we saw our in the data mines. Where are you at now?

Alex: 52:40

First of all, hearing you say tutu this late at night was funny. I don't know why I laughed as much as I did, but it was really funny to me. Jennifer Kale, I'm coming in at two stars. I, we have a lot of ramp options and I don't think this is good enough. That's just my take

Cozy: 52:52

two. Yeah, this is I like a two and a half. I think there's cards you'd wanna play with this potentially, but also I just don't, I don't, I don't see it, I don't see this as being like, I feel like she's gonna work in that one deck and that one deck's gonna be like a good deck.'cause I can be like, the deck two and a half.

Alex: 53:06

You know what I was thinking about? It's like when I play ramp it's'cause I'm trying to get stuff out fast. Like I want like bigger stuff earlier. Activates slow. So already you're delaying, like you're delaying a turn because of it. And so yeah. Oh, but Alex, you can get a six try. Yes. I understand that. Like I understand the versatility side of it and that's why it's set up the way it is. It just ramp, it seems like Activate is counterintuitive to what Ramp wants in some way. In a six turn, seven turn Marvel Snap game. And also, I've been playing a lot of ramp, I've been playing more ramp than most people. I've been playing Luna Snow Baby. And I actually think Luna Snow is totally underappreciated right now. I think Luna Snow's better than Jennifer Kale. Straight up like I a three six versus a two. Two activate. Three six with immediate, yeah. Okay. You're giving it to your opponent, but my deck is built for it baby. Yeah. You know what I mean? I dunno. I like Luna Snow better. I've been playing a lot of Luna Snow. Jennifer Kale just does not excite me. I don't like kale either.

Cozy: 53:58

Yeah. I'm not a fan of vegetables either. Bam, roasted. I agree. Yep. And there, there's a reason why they're series four, right? Like at the end of the day, this is why they come out how they are. Nicholas Scratch. We've been hinting at him talking about him a lot today. Let's show'em. He's a one cost two power card guys. One, two. After you play Skill plus One Power, this is our scaler for the Skiller. And I think I think this guy's naturally gonna work. We're gonna eventually get a deck that's aka Moto him Merlin, get things cooking, but also because Merlin's gonna be so dominant, he's just gonna fit right in. He gets pretty high. He gets to, you can get into probably like a one. 5 1 6.

Alex: 54:35

Yeah, he looks like he hits the hookah. But what I will say though is honestly, yeah, you said he gets high. I had to do something. Actually, I don't even know if hookah gets you high. I'm not even sure I've seen a hookah. I'm not really sure what's in it. Nicholas scratch, I'm giving four stars. I do like Nicholas scratch a lot, however, in my notes I say four stars brackets in the future. He is the prototypical. I say it all the time. Age like fine wine card. This is a good card that's gonna age well.'cause every single card that gets released in the future of Marvel Snaps history will, like every skill card will benefit from this.

Cozy: 55:09

Yeah.

Alex: 55:10

Nicholas Scratch will only get better as more skill-based stuff gets introduced to the game. He's a one-two scaler. And think about how good TRO is. RA's easier to activate admittedly. Yeah. However this is tro for skills.

Cozy: 55:23

Yeah, I agree. I think like at first he's meh. But then like even from what we've done to the Fantastic four season, come out the first step season and all those cards are gonna get skills. And I think skills is here to stay and it's here to last for a while and he's gonna go from being like, ah, cool. I got this car. I could play him here. Oh, he's, he sucks on release. He's not that good. True. Like being the staple core of Dex down the line. No question.

Alex: 55:48

Yeah. And even think about Clea, right? Clea adds a skill to your hand. You play it, you're getting negative three power applied and he gets plus one. Yeah, it's like a one four for that card, for that play. It's honestly, I think Nicholas Scratch has a lot of potential. I really like the card and for the record, it's coming out as a season series four card, which obviously you mentioned, but that's good because. We've had ROC and now Nicholas Scratch two inexpensive scalers at series four. I appreciate that. Yeah. I think these, honestly these could have been series five cards. Yeah. I from a power level

Cozy: 56:19

because you put, because skill is here to stay, like skill is almost kinda like on reveal ongoing kind of, if we had an on reveal or ongoing one one cost that would get plus one power. If you played an honor reveal and there's a one two, right? You would be able to get that going pretty fast. Obviously those are better, but like that we'd be going crazy for that Goliath, we were already like, whoa, look what Goliath could go up to. I think that for a one cost, him being a one two is fascinating.

Alex: 56:43

Put it this way because of like the design landscape around a card like Morgan Lafe, which honestly I'm torn about, but could be a good card, but I think it could under underperform as well. Nicholas Scratch comes out as a series four'cause it's ability is seven words or whatever. I don't know. It's like a very short Yeah. Text box so it doesn't feel like a Series five card. Doesn't mean it's gonna not be good. Yep. You know what I mean? Think about like in, in a magic gathering, how good lightning Bolt's. A Beauty

Cozy: 57:08

Legion was series four Legion was a series four when he came out. You never, you can't judge a book by its cover. And I think for now he is a series four, but he won't be as we move on. Next up we've got cards that we definitely have talked about Plenty on the Snapchat kid Omega two two. Did you

Alex: 57:23

star rating the I don't think you star rated the, I gave him a four scratch. I gave'em a four. Oh, you give him a four? Okay. I

Cozy: 57:28

missed

Alex: 57:28

it.

Cozy: 57:28

I like the four. I definitely like the, the like I believe he'll be a four eventually too kind of thing, even if he's not right. Release kid Omega two, two activate, destroy the next card. You play this turn to gain its power. So clearly door mama, who's gonna love this car that just works very well into door, not mama. And we need cheaper cards for him to work better and better. So that's great for that. We have a elixir. We've talked about this a lot. Kid Omega, what do you think?

Alex: 57:50

I'm going 4.5 here. I think it's a strong card. I really do. Especially for what's gonna be high voltage overdrive potentially free, freely accessible card. I think it's legit. I do. And I think that in this case, activate is very strong.'cause Activates gonna allow you to like, to stack the ordering like you want. Bro. I don't, which I think is pretty cool. What did you

Cozy: 58:09

give him?

Alex: 58:10

4.5.

Cozy: 58:11

Okay. Yeah, I almost gave him a five. I'm glad you did. 4.5. I think the ability to hold that. Think about what hell cow was when hell cow came out for discard and we're like, whoa. Good example. Being able to hold that power destroy, can do so many good things, and it can be used early. So like you can use it early if you need to and get things going. Or you could do the crazy ni rod play, right? I like Kid Omega and I feel like it's what would we give venom these days? Even though he is only in destroy, we'd still call Venom a five star card or whatever, right? So I think that's what I'd give this guy.

Alex: 58:44

It's a good point. It's gonna be very niche, but I think it's gonna be irreplaceable in this niche. Irreplaceable,

Cozy: 58:49

yep. 4.5. I feel strong about that too. We can line up together on that. And then Alex the long return, we've all missed him. He's back. Two, three. Cobra activate.

Alex: 59:01

Look at this Dweeb. What a dumb ass. Honestly, if you're gonna be a superhero and you look like this, just retire, dude. What doing this

Cozy: 59:08

is what he gave up or even everyone has gin. One of their costume Spidermans didn't slap right away. He was like, he stitched it together. Then he made something really cool, pop Oprah. He put this together and he is this is the, look, I'm staying with this one. This is what I wanna do.

Alex: 59:22

You know what reminds me of you remember, like it was in the eighties or nineties where people used to wear suits and they would wear pads in their shoulders to make them look bigger. Do you remember that? Yeah. The pads and the shoulders. Oh, definitely. It's he's yo, what if my K had shoulder pads and I wore glass like goggled? He bought this on Etsy and I looked like an idiot. He bought this on Etsy, but jacked at the same time. Yeah,

Cozy: 59:41

for sure. He definitely he did not put a lot of love into this costume. What's fun is if you remove one word on this card, it's insane. Activate switch. He's a two three activate switch. One of your opponents created cards here to your side. Now, if that was just one of your opponent's cards here, hey, what's the best card in the game? But he's not he's not great. There's a lot of created cards though.

Alex: 1:00:03

Are you gonna cope that hard? Are we doing this?

Cozy: 1:00:05

I'm coping for Cobra.

Alex: 1:00:07

Give him, I'm saying two stars. And like even then, like I can, oh man, I wanna give him one, but I'll give him two.

Cozy: 1:00:13

I'm gonna give him, nah, I'm gonna give him one.

Alex: 1:00:17

I was just gonna say, I didn't wanna give him two. Man. Can I say one card? You're not playing because

Cozy: 1:00:20

here's the thing. You have to play'em down. You have to, so you're playing one too, but then your opponent could just not play their creative cards on that location. Like I know. It's so cringe, dude. It's so bad. It's stupid. If it was an honor reveal, I would like him way better. Way better. Because you can save him for late, but you can't even save him for late because he's inactivate.

Alex: 1:00:38

Yeah, I'm giving him one. I can't do this. I hear, I was gonna give him two to give him the benefit of the doubt. I can't.

Cozy: 1:00:42

No. He's a piece of, he's a piece of garbage, man. I hate Cobra. So outside of Cobra. Lot of fascinating cards. Tons of cards, man. Man, we talked about a lot. Let's rank'em. Best card of the season is who?

Alex: 1:00:55

Oh man, this I've, it's so funny. I did this ranking list prior to us talking, and then after we talk it's I almost wanna flip a couple, but I'm gonna stick to what I had written. Okay. I have not done. Number one for me is Merlin.

Cozy: 1:01:04

Merlin, a hundred percent.

Alex: 1:01:06

Number

Cozy: 1:01:06

two,

Alex: 1:01:08

I'm going with Kid Omega number two.

Cozy: 1:01:10

Ooh, I like that. Is it Nightmare Kid Omega, I think the staple ness of I'm gonna go Nightmare.

Alex: 1:01:17

Ooh. Okay, cool. Cool. Number three for me and this man. I don't know, I might be hot taking here. I went with Clea.

Cozy: 1:01:27

Ooh yeah. That, that that's higher than I would have it. I am gonna go with an door mal move. Oh man. But I gave him a four. I gave no Kid Omega. Yeah, kid Omega. Then that door mal move for me.

Alex: 1:01:42

After CLIA number four, I went, Nicholas scratch.

Cozy: 1:01:47

Yo. The disrespect on the door. I know, man. I don't know. I'm nervous, man. This is hard. All right, so after dorm Mamu. After dorm Mamu, I will go. Yeah, I guess I'll go, Nick. All right. Because Ta Yeah. I'll go Nick. I'll go Nick.

Alex: 1:02:02

Number five for me is dorm. Mamu.

Cozy: 1:02:05

Five for me would be Morgan. I think Morgan Lafe four, seven. Hold on, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with Morgan.

Alex: 1:02:15

Yeah. I feel like we're drafting so like here.

Cozy: 1:02:18

You know what I mean? Like we're too, I know. No. Or like they can hear us like we're like their family.

Alex: 1:02:23

I know. I know. Number six. I go The ancient one.

Cozy: 1:02:27

Yeah. Ancient one, man. Three, five. I was thinking about that stat line. It's so good. You don't even have to use the thing. We could be sleeping on that one Hard.

Alex: 1:02:37

I can see the ancient one being a mess. The only thing that's

Cozy: 1:02:39

certified is that we're just like two, a couple of dumb asses on here. This whole podcast. Three, five.

Alex: 1:02:44

Always been

Cozy: 1:02:45

three five. Yeah. Ancient one. And then CLA for me,

Alex: 1:02:48

so number seven, you have cla. Yeah. Number seven for me is nightmare.

Cozy: 1:02:54

Okay. Yeah, that's definitely different. And then the worst card of the month, or sorry Jennifer Kale is next.

Alex: 1:03:01

We still have three more cards.

Cozy: 1:03:03

No, we have Cobra and Jennifer Kale.

Alex: 1:03:06

I we're missing something'cause I have not, so number eight for me is Morgan Lafe.

Cozy: 1:03:11

I stuck in clay online because I said the one. Okay. That's

Alex: 1:03:14

what clay is for you at eight.

Cozy: 1:03:15

Wait. Maybe. Maybe I messed up. Sorry, Morgan then ancient one then Clay.

Alex: 1:03:22

Okay, that makes more sense. And then for me to finish at nine and 10, I do. Jennifer Kale, Cobra lost.

Cozy: 1:03:27

Yeah. Cobra is, yeah, kale and Cobra for sure. Kale. Kale. Like they're, it's like kale and then cobra's not even on the screen.

Alex: 1:03:36

Yeah. So we're pretty much in agreement. So Merlin, number one for sure. I do agree. And I, for the record, I can see this being a five star card and maybe it's good that it's not as broken as Certa was. Maybe it'll have a little more plot armor, maybe it'll last, maybe it won't get Nerf Cozy. Maybe it's just busting. Maybe it's gonna fly under the radar Just enough. Fly close enough to the sun. I think this has

Cozy: 1:03:56

oh, it's so cool. Loki vibes. Oh, this is so cool. This is so fun. And then give it like two days and everyone's gonna hit it.

Alex: 1:04:03

You think it's that bad, eh? Okay. We'll see, man. Maybe you're right. I don't think it's that bad, but maybe it is.

Cozy: 1:04:09

This could be a fun season, regardless. There's so many fun cars this season and there's something for everybody. Yeah. If you like destroy, if you like randomness, if you like, there's crazy stuff with the ancient one. There's seriously a deck for everybody.

Alex: 1:04:23

I have to say from second dinner standpoint, they really cooked this season. They did these are a lot of well thought out designs that even if they're not good, you can tell a lot of heart went into the design did and I appreciate that

Cozy: 1:04:36

it cooked hard.

Alex: 1:04:37

Cozy. It's one of those ones where man, we just did a marathon session on the opening. I was gonna say half, what do we call it? The, what is it called? That like an orchestra plays the first set of the Snap, dude, I don't know, but there's

Cozy: 1:04:48

20 cards that came out, and we were not, we were like, oh, we had a lot of family stuff. We're like, we'll do this a little bit of a later one, but then there's. An hour and a half with card discussions and that was without even diving into the cards as deep as we could. That could have been like a five hour podcast. And now we're here. Now we end up here. We're here together in the middle of the night. Just two guys hanging out.

Alex: 1:05:11

Yeah. Yeah. You know what, I gotta tell you, it's fun because despite that, we had a great discussion and I'm looking forward to continuing here because although the cards that are coming out this month. Including Merlin and the others do look incredible. The cars that came out this past month, we do have to discuss because you know what? Listen, if you don't have'em all, you're gonna be hitting them in your spotlight. I was gonna say spotlight Cashs. You're gonna be hitting them in your Snap packs. You're gonna be hitting them by accident sometimes. And so as a result, what we're gonna have to do here is we're gonna have to go through what are good, what is bad, and we start with Esme. Cuckoo Asme Cuckoo Cozy was a card that came out in Marvel Snap as the season pass card. And you know what? Cozy, this is one that was not necessarily pay to win because you didn't win all that much with it. It really underperformed like many of these cards did on aggregate. It ran a 47% win rate at a 10% meta popularity. Now some of the decks and some of the stats are so bad we are using untapped statistics. By the way, infinite only, that I'm gonna focus on some of the best decks that it was in, and those best decks were generally running a 52% win rate, which honestly is not. Enough. It's not very high. Does Esme get buffed?

Cozy: 1:06:23

I think so. I bro, when you compare her versus Merlin, it is crazy like those two cars are. And we get that every now and then. We get like a bad season pa not a bad, but like eh, and then it gets a lot better. She's tough to yeah I can see it. I could see it happening. The OTAs have been that's it. It's own conversation here in a second. But yeah, like I, to me this is one of those cards. It's as we move forward, it just swept just be swept under the win. Yeah. That's what I sum it up to

Alex: 1:06:57

for what it's worth in my play experience with it. I actually didn't mind the card. The more I played ads made, the more I actually thought it was not too bad. But what I'll say though is Cozy, you and I star ratings wise, we came in at I came in at four. It's, you ready for this? Cozy. Did I keep in at five? You came in higher. No, you didn't give a five. You didn't give a five, four and a half. You came in at Cozy. What do you think?

Cozy: 1:07:19

Yeah, I think I was wrong. I think I was cuckoo for that evaluation. I always just try to give it the benefit of the season passed out, right? There's no way. There's no way. And I think four and a half's a little high. I think it's a smidge high. I miss it's

Alex: 1:07:34

Snoop Dogg high buddy.

Cozy: 1:07:36

It's, what do you give it now?

Alex: 1:07:38

I gave a four too. I'm back to, what do you give it now? What do you give it now though?

Cozy: 1:07:41

Whatcha you giving it now?

Alex: 1:07:43

You know what I mean? It's started like a two, one almost, but for me it feels like a three. Like I feel like it's better than 47%. I didn't think, like that's just the way I've played it.

Cozy: 1:07:54

That's fair. I think it's like a three, four and a half Goodness Cozy.

Alex: 1:07:58

But you know what though? It's like I gotta give, gotta be. Give him credit man. Like it's a season pass card. They didn't jack it up like crazy. I would love to see Glen's take on it honestly, like what he actually thinks. Retrospectively, I think this will get buffed to three five, no problem. Like it'll just get, be buffed to three five probably. But however, I think part of it's the lore'cause they want them to be three-fourths.'cause white queen is three-four, it creates a three-four. They're all clones. White queen buff to three five guaranteed. Upcoming. Now the next card though, Cozy. Cozy Snap. It's time for you to do a little flex. I hope you've done some stretching.'cause sir, you gave this card a five star. It's surge. You gave it a five star. Your boy Alex came in lower, came in at a four star, despite the fact that I said that it was my favorite card of the month. I had questions about its playability and boy was I wrong. Yeah, because this card is pretty much everywhere at a 34% play rate. Cozy 34. 34%. However, it's win rate on aggregate hovers between 50 and 51. Not as high as you would expect. However, some of the best performing shells, including you mentioned on the pod we got the Scarlet got a scarlet spider version that's running like a 52 50 3% win rate. We have some other versions with Petroc running about 54%, and we also have some toxic versions with Ajax running almost 55%. So there's some shells. At the top end running almost 55% with Surge. How's your experience been?

Cozy: 1:09:19

Yeah, it's it landed exactly where I thought, and I wanna say the reason the win rate is so low is it is gotta be, dude, 34% of popularity. That's a lot of people playing this card, man. Yeah. Seeing it everywhere, I think I said whenever it came out that the, it's not how we played Snap, but it's how we're gonna play Snap. And I think that evolved super well and Surge just feels. I be, again, we said this already on my side, but feels like a magic card in the sense like, I just the, I like, I want more cards like her that allow this kind of it's a new way to play, but it that fit the game perfectly. I.

Alex: 1:09:51

You know what I liked about Surge, and I think I figured it out. I was playing Surge, and first of all I love the card. I think it's great. I think everyone should have it. It's phenomenal. Not just from a play perspective, like power-wise. I think it's just fun. I think it's just a good card. I was like, what makes this card fun? And I think it's the same reason why I refuse to go to a casino. I. It's like surge is the one arm bandit ding, pull, because you hit the surge, it goes boom. And you're like, baby, what am I getting next? What's coming? What got buffed? And I don't know if you feel that, but I'm like, bro, what did I pull? What got hit? And it's exciting. It's the ding. It's the arm, it's the ju it's the ju it's the

Cozy: 1:10:25

jubilee effect. Yeah. It's getting, even if it's not the best, it's just fun. It's just fun. You said it perfectly. It's just fun. Even if it's not the best thing to do. It's fun.

Alex: 1:10:35

Yeah. And honestly for that reason I get a full recommendation of this card. I love Surge. Yeah, I think everyone should have it worth the tokens. Forget about the win rate. It's just a fun damn card. Obviously it does not excel later in the game. Sometimes you hit things that you don't wanna play yet. There's all those things, but the card is good and it's definitely worth having. Cozy. You got the five right there, in my opinion. I was four. Maybe from a win rate perspective, like four is probably fair, but it is definitely a five star. I think you have to add 30, but

Cozy: 1:11:00

when was the last 30%? Play rate card. That's high bro.

Alex: 1:11:04

Last time we had a card that high was probably Doom. 2099.

Cozy: 1:11:07

Yeah,

Alex: 1:11:09

but I think Doom 29 9 was better than search from like it was from a win rate side for sure, but it wasn't nearly as fun. No Search is a better card. It's a better Marvel Snap card.

Cozy: 1:11:19

Yeah,

Alex: 1:11:20

doom 2099 was a better competitive card, but Marvel Snap, but man. This game. I think really it pulls our emotions in with the snapping and stuff and that's why Surge is so great. I think it hooks our emotions in a way that a Doom 29 9 doesn't. Who cares about the extra three points percent win rate on Doom? 29 nines release. Yeah, it was good, but Surge. You feel it, man. You feel it. You know what I mean? Dude I feel like I'm, like, I'm addicted to surge. I say, I feel

Cozy: 1:11:46

I wish I felt your surge of energy right now. That's I need that, gimme some of that.

Alex: 1:11:50

But it's literally the next day right now. Like I gotta go to work in a few hours. So I gotta get hyped up somehow as well. Just go through

Cozy: 1:11:56

the whole night, just fall asleep on my desk, just put some expedition, watch inception, get all that to-do list done, and then you'll be good to go. You'll just like, dude, don't you hate that? Have you been in those positions in life where it's I can sleep and get two hours of sleep? Boy, just rock and roll the whole thing. I hate that decision.

Alex: 1:12:14

I've had the thought so many times where I'm like, if I go to sleep, I'll be more tired than if I just don't.

Cozy: 1:12:22

No, it's true. And my wife's

Alex: 1:12:22

that's not a good plan, Alex. She's you have no, and scientifically it's, I'm like,

Cozy: 1:12:25

it's Cozy. Wrong, scientifically. It's just wrong too.

Alex: 1:12:28

My wife has actually floated the idea of moving to California, so you and I can be on the same time zone. Come on over.

Cozy: 1:12:36

At least come to it's buddy. You could say in Canada. Just go to Vancouver.

Alex: 1:12:41

Vancouver. Van Vancouver's way too expensive. So San Diego. Yeah. I'm stuck here. Aren't I? Just San Diego? I'm stuck. Diegos not

Cozy: 1:12:47

any better buddy. Not any better. Oh man. Do you know

Alex: 1:12:50

what's better than? Actually, you know what's not any better than San Diego?

Cozy: 1:12:54

What

Alex: 1:12:55

Prodigy? Proje. We came in low on Pro. And you know what? I gotta tell you, I think I did proje a little dirty. I don't think it's a great card, but I had more fun than I expected with Proje. I was like, you know what? What'd you give him? Too bad. I gave him a two stars. You started at two and a half and I talked you down at two. Damn man. From what it's worth, I wouldn't say damn Cozy. I like because the stats are disgusting.

Cozy: 1:13:19

Yeah. But I give about two and a half.

Alex: 1:13:21

Win rate Cozy. Do you want to take a guess? Untapped 42. Oh buddy. That's what an incredible get. 43.2%, 43 point. The stats are disgusting. The card sucks even its best decks. The best deck available to it right now is a Silver Surfer deck running 51.9% win rate.

Cozy: 1:13:44

We got a lot of heat on that one too, for not liking that card. Yeah, I know,

Alex: 1:13:49

and I played some decks with it. I played actually pro, I played Petri with it. I didn't mind it. I think it had potential, and I think it's being carried right now by very good ongoing shells. It's being placed in ongoing decks where like all it can do is win. Like it's just the ongoing effects are very strong and project copy those, but that's naturally hate. That's what project should be doing, i, the card felt lackluster for the same reasons why a forecasted. What's her name? What? Peggy? Peggy Carter. Why am I forgetting her actual name? Captain Carter. Captain Carter. It's Captain Carter. The reason why Captain Carter was awkward. It's the positioning. So why are you laughing? Her name's Peggy. No, it is Peggy.

Cozy: 1:14:23

But I didn't know we were on a first name basis. And I also love you. What's Peggy Carter's first name? What is yeah, no, it's, no, it's, I Can I turn my lights down a little bit? We're live. We're live. Can I turn my lights down? Yeah, we're gonna guys, we're gonna, we're gonna, oh, that's a little. That's a little dark. I think that's too dark. Is this too much? Let me see. Let me let me match you a little bit. Oh, this is nice. I can. I'm staying here. So this is

Alex: 1:14:45

just my key light. This is all my lights. Oh, that's off.

Cozy: 1:14:48

This is, I've got, man, my setup's weird. I got two key lights and then I got a big old light that's on right now. A diffuser, and then ceiling lights on.'cause I don't know why I dig this lighting though. I actually like this. My eyes feel way better too.

Alex: 1:15:02

Your lighting looks way better than mine. And I look super red like Thanos again.

Cozy: 1:15:06

Nah, you look great.

Alex: 1:15:07

Or do I just always look like Anos? I don't know. But yeah, prodigy sucks. It's unfortunate. I do think that Prodigy might get better someday, though. I have hope for Prodigy. You know what I mean?

Cozy: 1:15:15

Yeah,

Alex: 1:15:15

I Does that make sense?

Cozy: 1:15:16

I think, yeah, I, not a lot of hope, but there's hope. A little bit of hope.

Alex: 1:15:21

A little bit of Coke, a little bit of hope, little bit of unlike Elixir, who's just absolute dog shit. And it's unfortunate because like with Elixir, we do have cards coming out. Here's the thing about Elixir and you called it, we talked about it. It's like Elixir. At the time this car was so bad. Do you want to guess it's win rate still in the forties?

Cozy: 1:15:38

Yeah, I was just gonna say 46,

Alex: 1:15:41

40, 40. You know what I was gonna, sorry, there's no continuation to that number. Just the 40.

Cozy: 1:15:51

Oh God, that's, it's just weird that Kid Omega came out so much later. Like I don't, what were they doing? What? What was happening there?

Alex: 1:15:59

I think that Elixir with Kid Omega is notable. I think that Elixir with Duam is notable. I think they released this card at the wrong time. It's just that simple. It came out at the wrong time. Yeah. Elixir is probably gonna be a card you're gonna find in Al Deck. Probably gonna be a card you find in some sort of mirage shell with, kid Omega or whatever it's gonna happen. But on release this card was probably one of the absolute worst cards I ever played in Marvel Snap.

Cozy: 1:16:26

It was bad it

Alex: 1:16:28

really bad.

Cozy: 1:16:28

We had a bad, a few bad weeks. Like we knew prodigy was gonna be, pretty mid. And then we had this guy, he was looking gloomy and he somehow exceeded our expectations. I, but yeah, kid Omega does it drastically make him better?

Alex: 1:16:41

I think. I don't know man. I think kid Omega's really good and I think that, does it make it worth playing elixir though? Like the elixir ever? Probably. Honestly, I think the first kid Omega deck will probably have Elix. You don't play so

Cozy: 1:16:53

many cars though.

Alex: 1:16:54

It is true. That's actually, that's a conversation for another day. The fact that with more cards, we got 10 cards coming out this month with more cards coming out in Snap. It's like this 12 card dec limit, like it squeezes cards, man. It squeezes the design landscape. You can't just. Throw whatever in there anymore. It just doesn't work that way. Like they have to earn their spot or, and then you get the power creep situation and that's another cringe Snapchat thumbnail. You know what I mean? It's like we gotta it is just a lot going on man. It's a lot of cards coming out, but elixir. Probably would've been better served in another month. I think it's the wrong card at the wrong time. I think it's a good example of why the ordering of cards is important in their release schedule, and perhaps they learned that lesson. But I don't wanna talk about licks anymore. We didn't wanna talk about it when we reviewed it and then, and now we don't wanna talk about it. Now we do have Zorn that came out though. Zorn came out a little more excited about that. Cozy, you came in at 3.5. It has a 47% win rate. Cozy. Do you wanna defend yourself? You

Cozy: 1:17:50

didn't like him? I like Zorn. I gave him a two, still gave him a two. I like Zorn. I do, I feel like he will. He'll age. He'll age. I think three. I'm gonna stick with a three. I

Alex: 1:18:02

am going to cast doubt on him. Aging well.

Cozy: 1:18:05

Are they stopping? The reason fours, those aren't coming out anymore.

Alex: 1:18:10

No, they just, no, they're done. They're done with that Nickla, Nicholas Scratch is gonna take over. No, that's not the case. I do see what you're saying, like the disruption side. I can definitely see them being like, yo, he's a three, he's a two, three now. He actually throws fives now, or he throws twos now, or whatever. Or there's a three, a four.

Cozy: 1:18:27

There's another vulture that comes out like that helps dramatically.

Alex: 1:18:31

That's the other side too. I think that him and Topaz are occupying too much of the same lane. It's like the identities are too close and so I wonder about that. His popularity was 8% win rate at 47% negative cube rate. Top performing shell was literally him slammed and met a scream at 40 54%, but a very weak cube rate of only 0.15. So basically yes, he got carried by the scream, scream deck, that whole archetype. Other decks were, I had a list that was like running like a 50, 51% win rate with slightly positive cubes. It just did not, it didn't shake. Didn't shake. Now what I will say though is I I did make a deck with Redwing and stuff like that. It was really fun playing Red Wing. It was fun, fun. And I also played no turns in that deck too.

Cozy: 1:19:12

I kept telling myself there was gonna be a super Coke with a red Wing, though. That was like wildly consistent. Wildly good and just fun, cheat. But it was fun. I think he checked the right boxes for me.

Alex: 1:19:25

He did check the right boxes. And maybe in the future, maybe in the future he'll impress, but ultimately Cozy. Zorn right now is definitely feeling a bit of a skip at a 47% win rate. However. We did get some surprise Series four cards dropped. Those cards came out of absolutely nowhere. We had no idea that they were coming. We had, we didn't even star rate them. We didn't star rate them because we didn't know they were coming. These cards here are Roc, the Leaper fan. Faye and Topaz. That was this month. We did, that was this month, dude, that was this month. They surprise drop on the season reveal. Oh yeah.

Cozy: 1:19:56

Very beginning. Yeah.

Alex: 1:19:57

Yeah, we spoke about him last week actually, which is funny. We, because we, again, this is how forgettable that whole situation was to some degree, but quickly to recap stats wise but Roc the Leaper is running a well as of recording a flat, exact 50% win rate at 8% popularity with some of the top shells, like scream running a 55.6% win rate, and then another version running a 54% win rate. Petroc De Leaper honestly has been a tremendous, I love scaler at One Drop, and hon, it's probably one of the absolute best cards released this month, despite being a Series four card.

Cozy: 1:20:32

Yeah, I agree. I think, I think he's what gave Nicholas scratch our hope that we had for him because it just shows like s scalers at that level, at one cost we've always liked, and if it's just naturally works with what you're trying to do anyway, which in Nicholas Scratch's case was skill cards. Obviously movement move is move has needed something like this that wasn't all in like human torch. I love it.

Alex: 1:20:54

I honestly was thinking about like how much I like one drop scalers things like sunspots, nebula. I don't care what their power is. I like the idea they come down early and they have this very consistent impact on the game. Like they have this, they have a feel that whole game. And I like that, like Petroc. You see him moving around the entire time. You see the number getting higher. He's vulnerable to kill monger. He's vulnerable to. Shadow King or whatever, right? But they have this very consistent impact on the game. And it feels fun. It feels fun, and so I do really like the card, unlike fan Fay who came out as an absolute trash tier card of 41% win rate on fan Fay, seeing almost less than 1% win play rate. Sorry. What are your thoughts on fan Fay?

Cozy: 1:21:38

My thoughts are we summed her up in five seconds on my side last time, and that's about what I'm willing to give her now. It just occurred, I'm not gonna play.

Alex: 1:21:45

Yeah, I agree. It just, the effect's not strong enough on, she feels like stagger

Cozy: 1:21:49

on when stagger on was bad.

Alex: 1:21:52

Yeah, I can see that too. It just doesn't, it doesn't do enough. And would it be better if we moved the entire board or is that just too strong? Is that just literally reverse Hy Doll? Yeah, I think it was last time to be.

Cozy: 1:22:01

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you could do that.

Alex: 1:22:03

Yeah. But anyways, fan fee's, a definite miss on four, A 41% win rate. All the top performing, move. Shells are not playing fan Fay. They actually they're not playing topaz either, which is unfortunate despite the fact, the idea that Topaz is a better car than fan Fay, it's running a very similar win rate according to Untapped at 41%. It's its popularity is only 2%. Though this though, I feel like Topaz is probably being somewhat disrespected, although clearly I think it can, it's a three, four, probably can go up to a three five. But yeah. These cards. Batra is definitely the leader here. It's definitely the one that landed the best. But unfortunately with the way the seasonal series four cards are gonna be working, let's say you didn't roll them, you have fan Fay and to pass sitting in there you still are gonna be in a situation. You're like I want Nicholas scratch. What do I do? I don't want fan Faye.

Cozy: 1:22:50

Yeah, I guess I mean that she's like the one, she's like one of the few bombs in there, right? Like you just have to. Yeah. That's gonna happen. Yeah.'cause I feel like, yeah, but Chuck, I'll, I play, I would play he, he'll be in any kind of move, cook moving forward for me. Topaz, sprinkle in when I want a little bit of extra like core move feel rather than what might be all the time. Meta and fan Fay. I just don't know. I just would, there's just not an instance. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just not, I'm not playing her. I haven't cooked a deck with her either. It's rough since we even came.

Alex: 1:23:24

Yeah, it's really rough. But long story short, Cozy. Let's talk about the final rankings that we provided here. Those are our rough takes there. Last week we did discuss rankings of the series four'cause we didn't do them formally. I think we can both agree series four Ys, petroc, the Leaper Topaz, then fan fay. But we did formally rank the other cards for the season. Cozy. I think I gotta give you the dub here. And it's simply because your rankings were surge at number one, Esme and number two, Zorn at number three. Prodigy at number four, elixir number five. I think that's perfect. I think that's exactly how it landed. I think you literally got it perfect. Maybe Prodigy Zorn, maybe you could argue that. Really? Okay. Because your boy Alex went Esme number one. Surge number two right away. Boom. Wrong. It's just wrong. Alex is wrong. Prodigy number three. Zorn number four. Elixir Number five. I would say that maybe Prodigy likely is better than Zorn. I would take Prodigy over Zorn, but you can't, you cannot argue as May over surge. That's just a total wh Cozy wins On the rankings of this prior month,

Cozy: 1:24:33

do you think we could make money by making microphone, pillow pillows? So it goes over your microphone. When I came back I used the restroom between our takes here and I saw Alex, he was using his as a pillow. And I tend to do that the later we get. Do you think there's a market you think Yeah. Do you think Steve, do you think I was gonna say Steve job, do you think like Tim Cook would buy it?

Alex: 1:24:54

The mic pillow. The mic pillow. So when you fall asleep while streaming or while recording podcast, you just put your face into it. Call

Cozy: 1:25:01

it my mic. Mic. Sleep. Sleep. Phone. Sleep. We're working on the branding.

Alex: 1:25:06

Yeah. I like the idea. But I think you need the mark, the mic arm too.'cause you need something to support your, if you can just get it to just like

Cozy: 1:25:13

very, the sound that made, if you could just like echo that sound. It was perfect. It's a niche market. It's a niche market. I'm cooking up the idea. You gotta work on past the crater. What am I gonna do past this? My pillow? Just saying. Yeah, moving on.

Alex: 1:25:27

We're way too cooked for this podcast right now. Cool. So let's jump to the Snapchat mailbag. Guys we're so gassed. We're, wait, we got the ota. We gotta say that. There's an OTA to talk about. That's right. We did gotta talk about the OTA. I don't even know what I'm talking about anymore. Okay. The OTA Cozy Snap. I was like, wait

Cozy: 1:25:43

dude, I love that you call me Cozy Snap. Like my full legal name. Like you're the only person that calls me Cozy Snap.

Alex: 1:25:49

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I, I do apologize for me, sir. Sir. Snap. No. Let's talk about the OTA. I

Cozy: 1:25:55

love that you're ready for the Snap. I OTA. What was the biggest We could, what was the biggest? Wow.

Alex: 1:26:03

First of all, we didn't have OTAs for a while. Yes. And that was, I don't know, man I liked the idea that the meta felt. There's always room for improvement, but I was like, you know what? I'm just, I'm playing some surf. I enjoyed playing what I wanted to play. One of the things that wears on me sometimes is I feel like I'm being shoehorned to playing a specific type of thing on the weekend. I, on Tuesdays, I gotta play the brand new card, whether it's sucks or not. I gotta there's, I always have to play something in Marvels. I always gotta play a very specific thing. And then, so when this, we didn't have OTAs and stuff, it was like, you know what, man? I'm just. I'm just gonna play. I'm just gonna enjoy snapping. For that reason, I actually had a lot more fun than usual. Okay. And then they're like, okay guys, let's take a look at the cards that Alex enjoys. Let's actually just spank the crap out of them, because why? What do we do? Oh, what are some cards that are seeing play that we can just destroy for no reason? I don't want to, I can't believe I'm gonna defend Macari here. Macari going from a three four to a three three blew my frigging mind. Yeah, that was because I don't even think Macari is that good. A hot It was a hot, I really don't think it's that good. It's just good. But Nerf macari must be one of the, like the most I read like Nervy, Macari is being so heavily dedicated to the stats of stuff. That like you're not seeing the forest through the trees, in my opinion. It's like macari. We're nerfing macari. It's like the car saw literally zero play. It's zero play until the moment it saw play. It's like the worst thing that can happen to a Marvel Snap car is it finally gets played. You, yeah.

Cozy: 1:27:31

Dude I like, we've gotten batch notes before when we like, we will get'em a day early, whatever. And we've gotten them where like they accidentally put something in there and that's not gonna be in there. Man, that was, we tested that one out. I swear. I thought, I was like, there's no shot. There's no shot. I did think it was cool. It was a dubs to get storm. We were just talking storm last week. In fact we were talking Storm and so on with two cards brought up last week in length on the Snapchat. And both those got touched and I thought that they fix, here's the deal, they got rid of my card, but at least they gave us Oxia two, three.

Alex: 1:28:06

Yeah, I don't wanna talk about that. Screw taxi. Doxy. I'm glad they gave a storm back though. Storm as a three. Cost is legit. I'm glad it's back.

Cozy: 1:28:12

If you had to play with one card in your deck for the rest of the time it was Cobra or Toxic Doxy, who are you doing? Why do

Alex: 1:28:19

you guys do

Cozy: 1:28:19

this? I need to know. It's for science. I was just delete the game. Is it uninstall? I would delete the game and the channel

Alex: 1:28:26

and I would play called Penguin.

Cozy: 1:28:31

Get on scape. It is a great job. I would just

Alex: 1:28:33

play with a tamagotchi, put a little, get enough batteries to keep that Tamagotchi alive. Sorry. Now would discipline the crap. Discipline. Discipline.

Cozy: 1:28:40

Hey, what do you think about bro, imagine if someone was like, Hey, I have a cup of coffee. Hey, I used to like playing Thanos when he came out. Will you walk me through all of his changes and like when they happened and what happened to him, bro? How many 17 changes?

Alex: 1:28:56

I don't know, man. I, you have the memory for that you know exactly which season with which cards. Thanos, I can't track anymore. I don't know, but I will tell you that the time Stone Nerf, I think is very significant. Taking the draw off the stones is huge.

Cozy: 1:29:08

That's always like a ma that's always their, it's huge. That's their whole we don't want Thanos anymore. Like when they do the, they get rid of the draw. That's when they're like, Nope, you're done.

Alex: 1:29:17

Yeah. And it's gonna hurt. I think the hazmat change was weird. It was like one of those Hey guys. Like I know like affliction iss good and it's always like in the top ranges, but like you're talking about like a card that has a two and a half play rate. What are we doing? Like we, we got a Nerf got her Nerf hazmat, and that's been a day, do we really have to Nerf

Cozy: 1:29:33

hazmat? That's been a day one staple too. That's always been a two cause. So it's just weird. I will say I'm pro cerebral changes. They've been having some fun with those. They've been doing some crazy stuff.

Alex: 1:29:43

Do you know what the challenge is? I like what they did with Cerebro, but if you really want cerebral playable, you have to chill at these frigging locations. They gotta stop releasing locations like we're done. Like when they talk about loca in the comment section, how many of you dream that snapped trailers that they're doing like with Ben, bro? No. Honestly, he crushed it, bro. How many of you're like, bro, I can't wait to see the new locations they're adding to the game?

Cozy: 1:30:04

No, bro. It was so quick this time that they literally just showed'em as posters on the wall and they didn't even address them. I'm pretty sure

Alex: 1:30:11

people would cheer more if they didn't release new locations and they got rid of them. Instead, announce that you're getting rid of shit ass location. I gotta stop swearing, announce that they're gonna get rid of locations and people will be happier.

Cozy: 1:30:25

Yeah. Honestly they just they're really strong and good, but they just come out at too fast of a rate and is the, yeah, the very simple.

Alex: 1:30:33

Alright, I'm tired and I'm angry. You guys wanna hear an actual hot day about the OTA? Yeah. Hit me. I think the Dr. Strange nerve is a skill issue because that card was susceptible to so many different things, including Shachi. You could hit it with Shadow King, you could Killmonger the stones.

Cozy: 1:30:50

Yeah. But do you think two ones are really gonna do that much? But

Alex: 1:30:53

no, I they, first of all, they hit him from that standpoint. They hit the shield. They hit the time stone. They hit the whole archetype. But I'm just saying the number of times that I just punched out. That card was just so often, like I knocked that card out. I starved it of Stones, bro. I like, it made me wonder if you know what guys like, so situations about, we have the tools to answer the problem, we just don't answer it.

Cozy: 1:31:17

It's usually whatever's complained about the most. So I have an idea, okay, we've got some following on Snap. We need to pick a random card and get some discourse going. You know what I mean? Just like we pick a card random, like where I know some random's already been done, but we do something else, and we like, we just test our theory. We're like, go to Twitter, just complain aimlessly like you're losing. Confuse them and let's just see if it gets nerfed. See what happens. After a month,

Alex: 1:31:41

we get crystal nerfed.

Cozy: 1:31:43

Oh, crystal, that's a good one. Electro three, four electro. What a time to be alive. Who gives a crap?

Alex: 1:31:51

Who gives a crap about a three, four electro Cozy? Do you care?

Cozy: 1:31:54

I do.

Alex: 1:31:56

You care what? A three, four electro. You're the only one.

Cozy: 1:31:58

I you don't like them?

Alex: 1:31:59

No. Screw electro. Why would I play electro when I can play anything else? Give me manna. Manna. What? You don't call it manna, is it what? No. Okay. Sorry. Energy play.

Cozy: 1:32:12

It's energy. We're playing. Marvel. Marvel style. Here comes the comments like, you guys aren't taking this size. Hey we're doing the best we can over here.

Alex: 1:32:20

We are doing the best we get. Listen, okay, I get my son to sleep on a air side play electro side. What? Sorry? You get plus one land next turn and you can't play card. You can't only play one card. So for extra land, is it really worth playing? Electro bro? It's smokey and

Cozy: 1:32:31

magic right now. Smokey

Alex: 1:32:34

Magic. We just started playing. We just the rest of the podcast with us just playing a commander game. Little top down.

Cozy: 1:32:38

Might as well, man. Might as well. What's the Snapchat chat mailbag got, there's something in there about Alicia Keys.

Alex: 1:32:44

So I tried to avoid too many of the questions and statements about Alicia Keys.'cause they were very frequent. People were apparently very upset with me. And they think I'm joking, but honestly, I have no idea who these people are. I'm not making it up. I'm not just trying to bait the comments. I don't know. No, but when you said, I barely know their songs,

Cozy: 1:33:01

when you said you haven't seen Harry Potter this is just Alex Kosher, this is. This is Alex Kocha. This is who he

Alex: 1:33:07

is. Yeah like this is not a facade. Like I have no idea who half these people are that we talk about. But what I will tell you, oh, also people think I'm so dumb. Here's a great, here's a great, so last week you asked me about the three rappers that I think were very influential. Yeah. Ice

Cozy: 1:33:20

Cube. You got a little, I said,

Alex: 1:33:22

that's, I still think that's a reach buddy. I said, okay, Eminem. And I said what else did I say? Eminem? I said, ice Cube. And I said, DMX. First of all, DMX was a reverend. Let's not forget, A man of holy DMX is great. A holy man. Yeah, sure. Holy man. Gotta respect that. Hey, here's the stupid thing, and this is what's funny and what, how people, they read through me, but at the same time, like they don't even they read through me in a way they don't even realize. When I said ice cube. People thought there were people that thought I meant Vanilla Ice, and there's a chance that you thought I meant Vanilla Ice. No, but I said Ice Cube. And people responded, like I said, vanilla Ice, and I'm not, no, not so stupid. But that's also the type of thing that I would do. However, what's really dumb is that I said ice cube, but in my head I was picturing Dr. Dre. So they almost got halfway there. What I mixed up with people. Dr. Dre would've been a

Cozy: 1:34:17

much better tr I would've not given you any, anything on Dr. Dre and my son made a noise on it, but I said Tupac and that ended up getting cut. But I just say we should add, we need to add Tupac.

Alex: 1:34:28

I can agree with Tupac, but it's funny. So peop I said Ice Cube. People thought I meant Vanilla Ice, but I actually meant Dr. Dre.

Cozy: 1:34:35

What about ice tea? Do you ever watch SSVU Law and Order.

Alex: 1:34:39

No. Does that surprise you that I don't watch Law and Order?

Cozy: 1:34:43

I don't know. You seem like one of those guys that watched that show.

Alex: 1:34:47

Why would I seem like a guy that would watch Law and

Cozy: 1:34:48

Order? I don't know. I actually watched it back in the day. Olivia and Alioth, they were cute together. You

Alex: 1:34:53

look like you watched X, like the X what's it called? XFiles. Was it XFiles with Molder and Scully? Yeah. But that's great. That's a good show. I never watched that crap. Crap. I. I don't know, man. Is this

Cozy: 1:35:05

thing

Alex: 1:35:05

on? We haven't even answered a question yet. Pillow. What the hell are we talking about? Wait, you haven't said a question yet. I haven't said, dude, you remember me saying a question. It's a Snapchat mailbag. We haven't answered any mail. I'm thinking

Cozy: 1:35:15

about how much shipping costs for the mic pillow. I'm like, do we aren't shipping or not? We're

Alex: 1:35:20

just talking now. This isn't even a podcast. This is as we're not even sure if we're recording anymore. Alright, listen, we've gotta get right to something important here. Okay. Question number one from grovel. This is hard hitting information here for about Marvel Snap from Grovel Cozy. Looks like he's an undercover cop trying to buy drugs. Saw. I saw, and that's in reference to how you were dressed last night. I saw

Cozy: 1:35:40

my, a tank top and a backwards hat. It hurt. That's what I wear sometimes, I think that was the first time I've ever worn a hat. On camera. That's why. And people were

Alex: 1:35:47

like, Alex is doing a podcast with his stepson. I was, that was so funny. Me, that one cracked me

Cozy: 1:35:51

up. I I, yeah, I thought about it. I'm like why was that so weird? But it is.'cause I don, I've always, I never wear a hat, at least I do all the time, but not on this.

Alex: 1:36:01

Yeah, it's funny, just like I never ever wear glasses anywhere I go in my entire life except directly facing this camera. This is the only time I'll wear glasses. And by the way, I bumped into someone at PAX who did not recognize me. I was standing behind them on an escalator and I was talking to my brother and they were like this. They were like,

Cozy: 1:36:20

they took off their glasses to see if you were wearing glasses.

Alex: 1:36:23

They were like looking at me. And they're like, and they like, they're like, Alex. I said, yeah, what's up? They're like, bro, I listen to Snapchat every week. I didn't recognize you without your glasses. It wasn't until you, I heard your voice that I realized it was you. I'm like, really? It was the glasses. The glasses. Like completely it was like, it's you know what, like in, you're like a superstar. Like when who's someone that's famous puts like sunglasses on the hat, and all sudden no knows who

Cozy: 1:36:46

they are.

Alex: 1:36:46

Ice

Cozy: 1:36:46

Cube. Yeah.

Alex: 1:36:47

Ice Cube does that.

Cozy: 1:36:49

21 Jump Street.

Alex: 1:36:51

Yeah. Okay. With Korean and Jesus. Yeah. You see an ice cube on that? Yeah. That's why I like him. That's why he comes to mind. I, I think ice cube's sick man. He has one of my favorite lines, and I can't repeat it here. You ever see Friday? You ever see Friday? Stop blanking with Cree and Jesus. He's busy doing Korean stuff. Do you ever have you see Friday? No. You have to watch.

Cozy: 1:37:12

Is that a movie? Movie? Yeah. Don't,

Alex: 1:37:13

yeah, but you can't just keep putting movies on me. I'm not even watching the ones you're telling me. But there is something that Loom is gonna bring up. About storytelling Cozy. And this is a very important comment, very important mailbag question loom and says, I'm gonna tell my future kids about the legend of the time Alex took, came to a tournament.

Cozy: 1:37:33

Oh, took, came to the tournament. Yeah, that one got me. I could barely get the question. That one got me. That one got me. Yeah, because I'm telling you man, it's gonna be like 20 years from now. So I'm like, you used to host that podcast. But yeah. Yeah. What was that thing about something about Kang and Alex playing. K I'll never be able to see Kang in the MCU. You've ruined him for me.

Alex: 1:37:54

I'm sorry. We have another statement though, and this is a good one from Sammy. Sammy man, what a breath of fresh air. I love when you guys talk about other games in car games, especially more MTG and Pokemon. Sammy, I'm glad you don't want us talk about Snap'cause we haven't done much of that in this particular episode. You'll love

Cozy: 1:38:11

this episode. Yeah, this has been great for you. Yeah. We have something cooking up in the pipeline where we might have bonus content coming on random. Yeah, we're trying to figure some stuff. Alicia Keys and Beyonce lineage.

Alex: 1:38:26

Okay.'cause I'll let you decide'cause I'm tired as hell. I gotta go to bed, but i'll, I mean you, you're three hours behind me and you gotta go to bed. So I've settled on it. I think

Cozy: 1:38:34

we

Alex: 1:38:34

go with pillow, Mike.

Cozy: 1:38:36

Pillow, Mike, oh, sorry. Go ahead. I have a

Alex: 1:38:37

question for you. Do you want a Marvel Snap related question or no? One last one. See,

Cozy: 1:38:42

this is a lose loose. Can I tell you why? Because I say no, like Cozy hates Snap. I say yes and I hate the question.

Alex: 1:38:50

Okay. So you want the question? Yeah,

Cozy: 1:38:52

I'll take the question.

Alex: 1:38:54

Okay. Cozy Snap. This is from Alex, is Pagan. I don't know if that's in reference to me. I don't know, maybe, I don't know what's going on. Maybe I'm reading the name wrong'cause it's honestly a really small font and I'm really tired. I've got a question that's been haunting me for a long time. Why are there still cheating bots in this game? What's in it for second dinner? I don't know about others, but facing them, and in most cases, losing big cubes against them is extremely frustrating. It makes me want to quit the game and not play anymore. So why do you think they're still in the game? PS I love your nons Snap related conversations. The candy ranking bonanza, the Nintendo Squabble, the Alicia Keys, being the daughter of Beyonce. It's so hilarious. Keep it coming.

Cozy: 1:39:36

Yeah. All games have bots and I think card games are hard to program bots'cause it's like you do. Do they do the same thing each time? If they do, that's easy to know. Do they mix it up and play? The ch Yeah. Dude, that's a tough one to end on, man. I'm. Yeah, he should have laid up. I will tell you

Alex: 1:39:53

that there's some, they, okay, so I think Griffin had answered a question that they're like, oh, we didn't make any changes to bots, bro. I have like livestream footage of me getting my, not even my cheeks clapped. I'm saying my cheeks got demolished by like some of these bot plays for eight cubes. It's'cause once I see it's a bot, I just Snap. I'm like, whatever. These are free cubes. And then I'm like, bro, what did this bot just do to me? This is like mathematically, like they, yeah. Knowing what's happening. NASA scientists figure it out. Like the exact trajectory to pump me, bro. And that's exactly what happened. These bots were absolutely savage and griffin's oh, we didn't change anything. And there's some intern somewhere going like this.

Cozy: 1:40:31

Yeah, dude, I in rivals when they do bots and rivals, you can't flink you'll go around and they the boss just like it knows you're there. Yeah. Put you asleep. Is that it? Is that the final nail of the coffin? Hey guys, we really appreciate you coming by today. Hanging out with a couple guys that are just here talking about Marvel Snap. We wish you'd have a great one and a good one. A very special Monday. That was, that's how I want Alex to die when you go out. I need you to, yeah, just like that. You look like you're doing, oh, who does that? It's super powerful. Who puts this head? Es strange, right? I don't remember. It could be Merlin. Well guys, hopefully you enjoyed this. It is episode, the Snapchat. It was a longer one, but we had to talk about all the cards. We even cut a subject to make sure this one wasn't too long and we're still easily at an hour and 40 minutes. Love it. Great stuff guys.

Alex: 1:41:29

It just says more of a

Cozy: 1:41:30

Snapchat down there. I love that. Not the Snapchat mailbag.

Alex: 1:41:33

I just saw that. I just really, I didn't notice that before.

Cozy: 1:41:35

I did too. Until I read it. Anyhoo, have a good one. Have a great one. We'll see you the next one. Happy snapping.