It's a Scandal: Prince Andrew is Innocent and I Can Prove It - Lady Victoria Hervey Tells All

Lady Victoria Frederica Isabella Hervey, aka Lady V, has lived a life that's straight out of a Hollywood script. Raised between the opulent Ickworth estate and Monaco's glamour, her journey has been a rollercoaster of high society, fashion, and even a hint of scandal. But it's not just glitz and glam; Lady V's story takes some unexpected twists, like the jaw-dropping moment when she felt compelled to buy a GUN for protection. And then there's the juicy gossip swirling around her alleged ties to Prince Andrew and the infamous Jeffrey Epstein saga. Trust us, you won't want to miss a second, Lady V reveals her own secrets!

Key Insights: Resilience Amid Media Scrutiny: Lady Victoria Hervey's story embodies resilience in the face of media scrutiny, showcasing the power of perseverance during challenging times. Seizing Diverse Opportunities: Her forays into modelling, entrepreneurship, and fashion underscore the importance of diversification and seizing opportunities in various sectors. Championing Social Causes: Beyond her professional exploits, Lady Victoria's commitment to social responsibility shines through, advocating against domestic violence and championing social justice causes.

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
2:05 - Posh Hot Girl in the Paper
5:35 - Where did the Lady/Marquess title come from?
8:45 - Childhood Memories and Boarding School
15:22 - How old were you when living in Monaco?
18:53 - Bit Naughty but High Grades
21:57 - Taking a Gap Year
25:09 - Getting the Modelling work
28:41 - Any particular stories with the press that were twisted?
31:15 - Opening the Clothes shop
35:38 - LA Plans, Modelling, Visas and Producer Work
42:56 - The Lady Ship Swim Brand
45:00 - Going onto the Commodities and the Gold
46:29 - Networking - Is it a task or is it natural?
49:32 - Why did you come back to the UK from LA?
52:50 - England vs LA vs Dubai for Safety
54:36 - Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein
01:02:40 - Prince Harry
01:07:24 - Speaking Out About Her Sister Who's Been Subject to Domestic Violence
01:12:09 - What Projects are on the Horizon?
01:13:23 - Conclusion

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

That Prince Andrew, Virginia photo. There's literally over fifty things wrong with that photo.

Speaker 2: 0:05

Welcome to this show, Lady Victoria Harvey.

Speaker 1: 0:07

Thank you.

Speaker 2: 0:08

When I was a teenager, you were like the posh hot girl in the basement. Right.

Speaker 1: 0:11

This photographer got a side shot of me and it was like heart of a nickel and then suddenly it was like, oh my god. Lady V has flashed

Speaker 2: 0:18

when you were becoming the young girl in England, did you relish that attention?

Speaker 1: 0:21

It just became an increasingly sort of a pressure that as soon as I walked out door that someone's taking a picture.

Speaker 2: 0:28

Talk to her about Prince Harry.

Speaker 1: 0:29

It's this whole sort of leftist victim. Oh my god. Look at me pull me like no Harry. He was never like that before he met Meghan.

Speaker 2: 0:38

You were like a quite famously dated Prince Andrew.

Speaker 1: 0:40

Prince Andrew was like he has been the scapegoat for this whole thing. I'm hoping, like, in the next few months, Grant Sanders can be exonerated from all of this.

Speaker 2: 0:54

Hey, Matt Haycock's here with a quick introduction just to say, I hope you're liking the show. But please, please like, subscribe or comment. That's how we can bring you better guests. That's how we can make the show better each week. So please, please. That's all I ever ask of you. Never charge. We never ask anything else. Just please give it a few moments of your time. Guys, welcome to stripping off with Matt Hacox where we metaphorically, of course, strip up our guests.

Speaker 1: 1:21

I know. I got lots of layers on right now. They definitely, it's quite hot in the air.

Speaker 2: 1:25

It's only just beginning. Mhmm. No. We strip out our guests so we can dig deep on the story. There is experiences on what we can learn from it. And I've got a great guest with us today. I've got a socialite, a broadcaster, a model, an aristocrat, Katz. I was to Katz, and I was to scratch.

Speaker 1: 1:40

Well, today's Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:42

And a forward girl. Welcome to this show, Lady Victoria Harvey.

Speaker 1: 1:46

Thank you. And you said my name correct. Clearly. So that is very good.

Speaker 2: 1:50

I'm always very nervous. I'm always very nervous about name print on two. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:53

It gets it gets, you know, it gets confusing because it is its pronounce Harvey, but we're in a Harvey. So, you know, it's it takes a while for people to get it. But thank you.

Speaker 2: 2:02

So before we get going, you have to tell me because I remember you from when I was a when I was a teenager, a late teenager. And at the time, you you were like the posh hot girl in the papers.

Speaker 1: 2:11

Right. Yeah. I I was in Why? They kept putting me on, like, the front page of the sun, David Yellen, who was the editor at the time, I think, had a little bit of a crush. And, you know, basically, it's it really started as, like, I went to a party and I had, like, a a low cart dress on and it was, like, you know, how the press in England, they're a little puffy. And it was like, this photographer got a side shot of me, and it was like, part of a nipple. And then suddenly, it was like, oh my god. Lady V has flashed. And, you know, that made the news like worldwide. So, yeah, so it kinda started I suppose I kind of rose to my It Girl stardom at around about nineteen years old. I left school. I had a gap year. I was going to be going to uni for four years to do French and History of Art. And, you know, I got some grade a levels, and I was gonna be going to Axita, St. Andrews. Or Bristol. And then the appeal of starting for four years, once I started owning money and I you know, I was modeling and I was modeling internationally for big brands, you know, like Chanel and Deere, the idea of being a student. I I was a boarder as school for ten years from age of

Speaker 2: 3:33

which which boarding school?

Speaker 1: 3:35

So I was at a prep school called Sipton Park in Limingling Kent and then from Sipton I went to Benadine, which is where Princess Anne was, you know, posh or girls or girls school. In the middle account, And, you know, after ten years boarding, I just saw UNIA sort of an extension of boarding school, which it is. I think it's fun for people if I hadn't already been at boarding school for so long, like friends of mine that were at day school, you know, uni was like something new. But I yeah. I started working and earning money, and I was dating someone a lot older than me. So I sort of flung into this social scene of London, very young. And and that is when I started being labeled big girl. Because I was out everywhere. And then from that, I had a column for The Sunday Times called Victoria Secrets. So then I had this added pressure that I had to go out all the time because I had to have fun things to put in my column. And you know, those were the days that it wasn't like phones back then. You couldn't do emails on phones. Like, you know, we we kind of look back at, like, two thousand and one and two thousand and one was the first camera phone, but it wasn't a good camera phone. It was like a little nockier. You couldn't do an email from that.

Speaker 2: 5:03

So you remember sending dirty messages made up Yeah. Made up better.

Speaker 1: 5:07

When I had to

Speaker 2: 5:08

exclamation marks.

Speaker 1: 5:09

Oh, it was crazy. What I what I had to go through to get my column in, like just saying I would be like on a boat in the south of France in the middle of the ocean. You know, I would have to find a fax machine to, like, fax in my column on time. And if we didn't have a fax machine, and I have to find one really quick. It was it was a lot more complicated back then.

Speaker 2: 5:32

So just taking a pause and rewind for a second, Explain to me the lady bit because so you I can't even say the word, but I'm gonna say you so your father is the sixth Is it Marquis? Six Marquis of Bristol. Yep. What does that mean? How does that make your lady and what's the royal connection?

Speaker 1: 5:51

You know, it is It's a long, long family history, and I'm still learning about my history every day. So my father was the sixth Marquis. My mother was the third wife. Or the six markers. So I actually had two half brothers, both deceased. Because

Speaker 2: 6:11

are the material old over there?

Speaker 1: 6:12

They they were older. Yeah. They they were older, but they still died relatively young in comparison to what you should live to. I was born lady, so the children of the Markwiss are automatically lord or lady.

Speaker 2: 6:29

So so you so your your brother your half brother stayed So

Speaker 1: 6:32

my when I was younger, John Bristol, who was the eldace on his of my father. My father died when I was eight years old, and he became the markers at the time. And then it basically jumped from him to my brother because the other son in between died before John, about a year before Nicholas. So, yeah, my brother now is the he was actually and I think at the time, the youngest actress, they he was known as.

Speaker 2: 7:03

This is this is your full brother.

Speaker 1: 7:04

Yeah. My full brother, he was it was a lot of pressure for him. You know? He was just starting university. He was like eighteen years old. And he sort of had that responsibility, like, thrust on him.

Speaker 2: 7:16

And and when you say responsibility, I mean, like, what would

Speaker 1: 7:19

it's really similar. It's a responsibility of the name, you know. So, like, our family house, which was been in our family for generations. It is National Trust now. And But even though it's national trust, you know, he has some obligations. He also started a child charitable trust to get the chapel read on, which is where like all my family are buried. And that was kind of falling apart. So we've had that completely renovated and It's it looks amazing.

Speaker 2: 7:55

And and it's been the mark question. I'm saying that right. Yeah. Yeah. It's been the mark was is that a job? Like, is that how you get your money as well? Or

Speaker 1: 8:02

No. No. It would have been back back in the old days. Right? But, you know, it's a sort of it's a I suppose it's a responsibility that he has. Now he has two little children and so the eldest son of the Marcus of Bristol is called Old German, which my brother was never that because he was never the eldest son. But his little boy is old German, named after German street. So my family back then built quite a lot of me for So that's how we got the name, German.

Speaker 2: 8:40

Okay. Yeah. So going back to your story then, well, what are you? Well, look, So as so as a youngster, as in boarding school days

Speaker 1: 8:49

We, you know, we moved to Monaco when I was very young. And So I, you know, I I had a mixture of of living between the two, but I was, you know, I started traveling and and being pretty independent young. You know, I was like the kid unaccompanied minor with the little thing around my neck, British Airways or Air France, and I was on planes on my own, you know. For half times, my grandmother used to take me for Xieux. She lived in Kent, So that was really good.

Speaker 2: 9:23

And in – I guess, in terms of your childhood, there's sort of friends or people popping around for a Sunday roast, Right. Are they but the kids of Mark Quisces, are they royal family members? How do you fit into all of that?

Speaker 1: 9:37

Yeah. Mixture. I mean, what I'm really enjoying is living back in England. I moved back last January. I was living in LA for eighteen years. And it was just it was time to move back, time to be closer to family, like, I had a great time, I had you know, I met some amazing people, but it gets, you know, it's quite a soulless place and the last few years, California literally has collapsed like like most of America actually. Like America has literally fallen. So yeah. So now I do. I I've I've reconnected with a lot of old friends, but I've always been close to quite few of my school friends, you know, because those people you bond with so much, especially when you're living together, your dormitories and stuff, I'm actually friends with quite a few people from prep school.

Speaker 2: 10:33

I I went to a boarding prep from from eleven to thirteen. Oh, actually. I was supposed to go on to full board after that, but never did.

Speaker 1: 10:41

Did you enjoy it or not really?

Speaker 2: 10:43

You know, I can't tell you how are you remembered at the time? Yeah. As well, rather, I can't say how I felt at the time, but we're looking back at it now. It was like super fun times. Yeah. But because I guess, know, just hanging out with your mates every day. You know, when you've got to do school anyway, but, you know, you you get to you get to sleep there, hang hang out with them and stuff for an hour. No. Forever in trouble, which is

Speaker 1: 11:03

Same.

Speaker 2: 11:05

That never made it to proper boarding school because after after getting kicked out of the the the the prep one, my parents said that it was time to keep me at home. But I've I've forgotten why and why I was mentioning that now. I don't know. I think that we're talking about childhood memories or or responding with people. So so I left that, so I don't know, why I left there in ninety three.

Speaker 1: 11:24

Okay.

Speaker 2: 11:24

And and I didn't have any contact with anyone that's true. Because in those days, there's no mobile phones, there's no That's

Speaker 1: 11:30

it. You just have to get like, your friend's address. And, like, if they've moved address, then you're not you're gonna lose them, you know.

Speaker 2: 11:37

And then about two thousand and six about two thousand and six Facebook's out. Yeah. And somehow, you know, if someone friend requests me or someone because you remember the names, don't you remember when Facebook first came out, you were thinking, who do I know, you know, who didn't know before. Mhmm. And, you know, I got put into, like, some kind of group where people talk about the the old the old reunion.

Speaker 1: 11:57

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 11:57

And I went back to this reunion down down at the school. So I'll have been twenty five, twenty six at the time Mhmm. As you were not seeing these people or had a word, said since you were thirteen. And when we all met up, because we met in the pub before into the school, it was as if we'd just seen each other yesterday. That's so bizarre.

Speaker 1: 12:13

That is what, like, real friendship is. Like, you know, and I have that is exactly that exact thing with a lot of old school friends. Like, I'll pick up and even the ones I do see regularly, but then just so I was back in LA, and then it was, like, COVID, I didn't see them for two or three years. Literally, like, the conversation just goes straight back. I I was down at Benadine a couple of months ago. It was like a anniversary event. And one of my old friends. I literally because I I missed the official reunion because, you know, I'll be in LA, and it was it was always more complicated, like, doing those type of things and I didn't live here. And one of my friends, I literally hadn't seen us in school. She looked the same. She was like the same. Like so amazing. And now she's teaching little kids actually, like, in Berlin and Village. So, like, her life has really kind of, like, stayed there. She sees me as like, oh my goodness. You're doing all these wild crazy things and Hollywood and this, and I'm like it looks glamorous, but it's stressful. But prep school prep school for me was super fun because we were allowed pets. And yeah. So we had like

Speaker 2: 13:23

We would even like

Speaker 1: 13:24

We, like, we, like, meted our rabbits, like, my rabbit had babies and yeah. It was a fun time always was in trouble quite a lot, but we had like Ponies and we used to hide our sweet stash like in the horse jumps. We used to also hide them like in the loft, but like the mice would get to them. So my grandmother would always send me back with these giant bottles of quality streets like those big tubs and it was quite strict at school because you only allowed a certain amount of talk. You know, it was very limited. And so, like, I would be the one with, like, all the sweets. So, yeah, I have I have good I have pretty good memories about that, but I would be in trouble like I was I remember they would make me stand in the corridor at night just looking at a wall for like hours.

Speaker 2: 14:18

You're gonna stand in the clock.

Speaker 1: 14:20

Yeah. And having to write lines. Yeah. You know, I must do it at, like, a hundred times or we got caught one night sleeping in the cupboards as a dare. Someone's like watch beeped or something. So the nature and light heard us. And we were like sleeping on these shelves in the cupboard. We thought that was fun. So yeah.

Speaker 2: 14:39

It's funny listening to what you've just been saying because you've just used two words that I haven't probably heard either of them. Since literally, since nineteen ninety three, which is maxi at.

Speaker 1: 14:50

Yes.

Speaker 2: 14:50

Because, I mean, that's a word that is completely unique to boarding school kids and tuck. I I know people, you know, took shot, but, yeah, again, it was a boarding school thing. Always abbreviated. Oh, you got your tuck, but it was a

Speaker 1: 15:01

tuck. Yeah. The tuck box was the best thing ever. So, yeah, you would have your sort of limited amount. But you see at prep school, we didn't have the talk box. We had that at secondary school. We had that at Benadine. And but, yeah, I was always sneaking stuff in.

Speaker 2: 15:19

What so how old are you living in Monocay? What was that like? I'm a massive

Speaker 1: 15:23

healthcare firm. As a child, it was the best. It was a really amazing place to live because it was a lot of we we spent a lot of our time outdoors. You know, I I learned to swim at the beach club in Monaco, which I think is still one of my favor all time swimming pools there.

Speaker 2: 15:43

Better than learning at the local swimming, investing.

Speaker 1: 15:46

I know. Well, when we would be then in England, it would be like the indoor pool of Victoria, the queen mothers, and I was like, I can't miss the other one. But no, it was it was an amazing life. Very, you know, safe. The other thing, you've got cameras everywhere in Monaco, like, literally, like, I went out with my friends quite young, you know, and my mother was not worried about me because it just felt very safe. Compared to living somewhere else. And actually, like my friends from Monaco, like I'm still friends with them that I've known like my whole life as well.

Speaker 2: 16:26

We we we

Speaker 1: 16:27

Now to live there, it it is very small. Like, it is very like everyone is in each other's business. Like, you can't really do anything without the whole the monocoa knowing. And so I understand that was like one of the reasons why my mother wanted to move back here because it's sort of gets lonely. You know, there's not that much going on there. I think it's a great place to visit though and spend some time, I mean.

Speaker 2: 16:52

Do you still go back to visit?

Speaker 1: 16:54

Yeah. I do. I haven't been back since this summer, but I'll be there in May. So I usually go to kindergarten festival. But that is a very crazy busy time to be there. Like, I don't necessarily like Grand Prix. I mean, for you, you'd probably love it because it's like testosterone. No.

Speaker 2: 17:11

No. But because it's too busy. I used to – so I've been living in Dubai as I was saying for the last three or four years. We always leave for the summer. We leave mid May, and I have a boat well, I have the boat in Dubai, but the boat's that live in Kenya, and we'd do like four months of the summer there and then go back to Dubai. But I'd always want to jump off it during during film festival time because it was just too busy to be around. Grand Prix.

Speaker 1: 17:38

Grand Prix, if you're gonna do Grand Prix, if I think staying on the boat is the only way to do it. Like, you cannot be staying on the land

Speaker 2: 17:45

happy to walk around here.

Speaker 1: 17:46

It's just these little things, you know. I actually I I always forget when I'm there. There's no Uber's in Monaco. Like, good luck trying to get back to can. I was last year, I was because I I rented a place in can for the whole festival. So when I went to Monaco, I just thought, oh, I'll just get the car in and out. It's fine getting in, but getting back out. It's like a real

Speaker 2: 18:07

Well, it's not just that there's no Uber. It's a total monnot on the taxi that

Speaker 1: 18:10

you can't you can't

Speaker 2: 18:11

call any taxi but a monocoa taxi, which is about twelve of them aren't the same. No. No.

Speaker 1: 18:15

I had to literally get one of Prince Albert's drivers to get me back because I was like, there's no other way I'm gonna get back.

Speaker 2: 18:21

I'll have to try that next time. I'll be well zapping you.

Speaker 1: 18:27

I think if you have a boat, like yeah. If you have a boat, you can do Grand Prix, but it is like it's a shit show. Like, it is really hard getting around and it's really stressful. And it actually made can film festival feel like really chill. When I've been than can and can felt very like fell on. And then I was like, oh my goodness, because you got the noise of the cars, and it's a whole another beast.

Speaker 2: 18:50

So you were you were a Nordic kid? A little a little bit cheeky. Yeah. But but you did well at school.

Speaker 1: 18:55

Mhmm.

Speaker 2: 18:56

You got three you were two eighty two eighty in a beach there.

Speaker 1: 18:58

And I did. I I was, like, one of those people that was a bit of fluke. Freaky flaky child. I did a lot of, like, cramming at at last minute. You know, we would take pro plus caffeine pills and be listening to Arrow Smith and revising. So Yeah. For all French was always a language. Right? That was always a subject. I knew I was gonna get an a in. You spoke it anyway. Did you? So yeah. Was it French school? So when I was younger, I

Speaker 2: 19:29

actually saw French school

Speaker 1: 19:31

better than English. So that was an advantage. I would always you know, if I had children, meet them speak languages really young, because we pick it up.

Speaker 2: 19:41

Absolutely. So so so I have a new baby who's eleven months and her mom is Finnish. Mhmm. And obviously, not that not that being able to speak, Finnish is probably a a great life skill. But she's speech in French, she's speech in English. Obviously, it's too early for it to be really making a difference. But I mean, absolutely. As a I'm gonna I'm gonna run, you know, multiple languages down a throat from from a very early days because they're all these things with, you know, as kids, you don't wanna do anything. Mhmm. But then when you get to eighteen, you you regret that, you know, like, when you're you don't wanna play the yeah. You don't wanna learn in this for me. You don't want

Speaker 1: 20:18

to learn anything. Yeah. But it's a eighteen

Speaker 2: 20:20

year big shift. I wish I could, you know, rock the guitar at the party and, you know, speak to that Spanish girl in Spanish or whatever. So, I mean, Absolutely. They're gonna ramp

Speaker 1: 20:29

some ideas. It up so easily, you know. And as you get older, like, I think of myself like I still ride a lot, but I'm not as gutsy as I was when I was twelve years old. I was just jumping over fences without a saddle. You know? At that age, you you're just not you're invincible. You're not really thinking about, am I gonna get a broken bone? And if I do, I mean, I did break quite a lot of bones as a as a teen, broken arm leg wrist. One of them was jumping off top bunk at school in the middle of the night, we would play games, right, when the lights went off and flew off top bunk and the girl underneath stuck her head out. So I had to suddenly jump missing her head and then landed in, like, on my arm. So but it's kind of fun when you break your bones at school. It's cool. Like, everyone's, like, really, waiting on your You do your resting bones

Speaker 2: 21:26

with the same nose. It's like a metal one they give What

Speaker 1: 21:29

was it? It metal now?

Speaker 2: 21:31

So it doesn't it doesn't say to you a very good semi weapon bastard. Hold on.

Speaker 1: 21:34

Not a long time. Back then, people are writing nice little messages and stuff.

Speaker 2: 21:39

Or not nice messages.

Speaker 1: 21:41

But the bro the broken leg was the worst, though, because we were living in Monaco, and I remember having to put a knitting needle down it to try and itch because it was the summer and it was so itchy. That was that was bad.

Speaker 2: 21:55

So you didn't go to Uniti and didn't No.

Speaker 1: 21:57

I did not. Oh, yeah. So I I had so I had a gap year. And in my gap year, I decided that I wanted to travel to Asia. And I met this girl who well, she was at school with me who lived in Malaysia. She was based in Kuala Lumpur. And so I traveled around Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore for a couple of months. Visiting different friends. And then I did a secretary at Queen's College for shorthand and you know, any other secretarial, like I mean, my shorthand, which I really need to, like, scrub up on it, but I was really, really good. And from doing that, you see, I could do like tamping jobs, which would pay quite a lot of money at the time. I mean, I'm sure they still do. So that was that was like a kind of a bonus thing to do. And then I was studying in Florence. I was studying history of art in Florence for about six months. And that's where I also met some people that are still very, very good friends of mine. And why actually ended up in LA was this Gawk and Swellow, my friend in Florence, and then moving to LA with her because she that's where she's from. So

Speaker 2: 23:16

And you say you're doing some of these jobs or some of these education, so you could earn some good money tempering? Yes. I mean, what was your financial situation.

Speaker 1: 23:26

So my, you know, my mother was was good. You know, she was quite quite hot. You know, it's it's hard when you're you being given everything. Right? Your whole life. And then suddenly, it's like you're on your own. You gotta earn your own money, and it's like

Speaker 2: 23:38

Was that the right to choose balance?

Speaker 1: 23:40

Yeah, that was like what my mother was like. And it was like, what do you mean? Like, I'm used to this really expensive lifestyle. And then suddenly, I've got it like pay my own bills? Like, how do I do that? So yeah. That that was hard. You know? It's almost easier if, like, you don't have you're not given too much when you're younger because suddenly, like, when that gets taken away and you have to, like, pay for that yourself. It's like, that's hard. Like so I was yeah. So I was I was doing some temping jobs this is like in my around like my gap year kind of time.

Speaker 2: 24:20

So had you become the hit girl and the basis of this point?

Speaker 1: 24:22

This was before pre pre hit girl, you know, maybe the six months lead after the hit girl. I worked for this company, Morofaro, The Winters, which is a theatrical agency, Music Week magazine. These were the days where, like, it was a lot more chill. Like, people were, like, smoking at their desks and, you know, like, those old days. But because I was the youngest, you know, I was always given like all the jobs where the all the people were like not really doing any It's like, oh, Victoria, can you do this and do this? And yeah. Then I basically started modeling and earning a lot of money and then I was like, okay. Need to do that anymore.

Speaker 2: 25:05

How did you get the modeling work? I mean, that's when you look to

Speaker 1: 25:08

do that. So that sort of came to me. Really kind of accidentally. I was very lucky to meet a very well known photographer who was role photographer called Patrick Litchfield. And he put me forward for this job for a a a a big drooling brown, jeweler called David Morris.

Speaker 2: 25:34

Mhmm.

Speaker 1: 25:34

And I got the job, and Patrick shot the campaign. And everything kind of took off from there, like, once you have Patrick Litchfielders, the first photographer taking pictures of you, you're kind of set. So I was really lucky. And then I think my the first shoe I did sort of on location. That was when I was a cowgirl in New Mexico for Tatla. And that was super fun. Got to be a cowboy. I got to like lasso cows and, you know, ride western saddles. So yeah, it was it was it was good.

Speaker 2: 26:10

And was that your was that your full time worker that's why I know?

Speaker 1: 26:13

At that point, yes, it was. I was traveling a lot. Some of it was quite tiring, you know, like you're sort of eighteen. You're you're traveling a lot. It's like it all looks quite glamorous and it is glamorous because, you know, you're wearing all these beautiful couture dresses and but it's hard that hours are long. You know, when you see a runway show, you just see the end result. Like, you don't see the rehearsals and the gearing up to it. And it's kind of like that adrenaline rush, and then you just feel exhausted afterwards. You know. So I did enjoy that. The column was good. The shot was good. And then I basically move to LA. I I had a kind of a lot of bit of a hard time with the press over here. And I was I was just very much, like, under the microscope. You know?

Speaker 2: 27:09

Is this a is this gonna kind of a build them up, throw them down kind of way?

Speaker 1: 27:12

Or is this it is, and it was very easy to do that do that to someone like me because I was so young at the time. And you know, I hadn't had that much experience to, like, how evil the media can be. And you know, when I was younger, I was very much like if a journalist tried to talk to me, I was very much like on the defense mode. And, you know, as I grow older, I've learned, it's better to be friends with them and give them what they want. Then just don't give them anything and just be rude to them because being rude to them is not gonna really, like, resolve anything.

Speaker 2: 27:53

What was that? What was your parents' attitude to your or your mother's attitude at this point to to your fame, if you wanna call that I would imagine they didn't have it. Did I It

Speaker 1: 28:02

was sort of hard for my mother, you know, and then it was like GQ magazine and it was like me in the back of a limo with this giant Afghan hound. It was a very cool shoot. But, you know, they would like to put me in kind of revealing style pits. And for me, like, I grew up in south of France. So, like, I was never really wearing that many clothes anyway. So I think that is why, like, didn't see him any different, really. But, yeah, I think it was sort of hard for her when I started getting, like, attention.

Speaker 2: 28:38

I mean, are there any particular stories with the press that Spring to Mind where you know, you were caught doing something. You shouldn't have been doing or or they they spun a story that didn't really exist in any any real that negative moment.

Speaker 1: 28:49

There's so many. They spun so many stories like I found out years later that I was hacked at the time by the mirror I'm sure, like, news of the world also hacked me, but and I didn't pursue it because I was living in Los Angeles, and I just kind of, like, shut down I remember when I first moved to LA, I didn't even come back to England for like at least a year and a half. And, you know, pre social media, like, I could really go to LA and sort of disappear, you know, when David Beckham moved, it kind of everything changed, and then suddenly there was a lot of English paparazzi's that moved to LA. But pre pre them moving out there, it was very much that you could get lost in LA.

Speaker 2: 29:34

And is and is that what you want or you wanted to disappear?

Speaker 1: 29:37

I did. You know, most people go to Hollywood to do the opposite. I actually went to Hollywood to, like, just get away from the media.

Speaker 2: 29:44

And but prior to that when you were becoming the young girl in England, and obviously it kinda happened back sort of, but when it did happen, did you relish that attention? You know?

Speaker 1: 29:53

I mean, look, it was yeah. Look, it was it was fun. You know, I just had brands every day, sending me gifts, and holidays and who who who doesn't want that. But it just became an increasingly sort of a pressure that as soon as I walked out the door, there's someone's taking a picture. Now, things have changed a lot like since Instagram and since Twitter. There's not that kind of paparazzi attention like anywhere because everyone's updating everyone anyway. So the value of a photo from a paparazzi is really not worth much anymore. Unless obviously, if that person is like having an affair with someone they shouldn't be or but like a regular picture of someone just going out their front door going shopping or whatever, like, I know this photographer, and he said and he said to me, God, I had a real issue selling pictures of it was like Rihanna in a park. And normally, that would go for loads. Right? Park in London. And, no, he got, like, hundred pounds for it, a hundred and fifty pounds for it. So it's, like, that kind of work isn't there. So we don't get hassled as much now. I feel like it was like time I could come back to England and not be hassle like I was back then.

Speaker 2: 31:12

And just rewind your second is preLA. You you opened a closed shop, you started your own business in your early 20s. Just tell me a bit about that, why you wanted to do it?

Speaker 1: 31:25

I did. I would been twenty four years old at the time, my first business. And why it works so well was And actually, like, we had an amazing location. It was on Mockums Street. Twenty one Mockums Street. I had Christian Amputa on one side. Which back then it was the first store.

Speaker 2: 31:45

This is just a Foxtrot Street.

Speaker 1: 31:47

No. No. No. Off Slone Street.

Speaker 2: 31:49

Okay.

Speaker 1: 31:50

Not Foxtrot Street. We don't do Foxtrot Street. Not so classy. So Motkum Street. So, like, Crystal and Butte, it was their first store they ever had an award I had them on one side of me and on the other side I had Jimmy Choo and they only had one store in the whole world. And so, like, Mockam Street, I mean, it still is. It's it's an amazing street, but it was, like, super thriving at that point of, like, year two thousand two thousand one. And, yeah, it was a you know, why it worked so well originally was that I would find these designers, I would model for them and then say, okay, I have a store. Like, do you wanna stock with us? And obviously, like, harrows would want them, but I would say, okay, if you can be with us exclusively for the first or second two seasons and then you can go to the bigger stores, but I used to get the Al Fire children coming to me to buy my clothes all the time. Like Jasmine, Al Fire was one of my really good customers. Victoria Beckham, Meg Matthews, that whole sort of that whole era of, like, Oasis. Yeah. They were all in my store all the time.

Speaker 2: 33:02

Any

Speaker 1: 33:03

We had we had a definitely, like, a good kind of thing going. Chris Evans the time he was married to Billy Piper, and they lived around the corner. And so they would be in Malcolm's wine bar. All the time, basically. And so it was, yeah, it was it was a fun fun time that Kartner would come by all the time and Yeah. It was a vibe.

Speaker 2: 33:27

And after two years, it shut down.

Speaker 1: 33:30

So it shut down or our boyfriends, me and my partner Jane, both our boyfriends were the investors, which, yeah, it was great getting it set up, but we sort of went through quite bad breakups. I'd been with my boyfriend about four or five years. And at that point. And when we broke up, we needed more money put in and they were like, nope. We're not doing it. So Academy sort of that collapsed. We went into liquidation. What?

Speaker 2: 34:00

Academy was the name of the store?

Speaker 1: 34:02

Yeah. It was called Academy with a k and an I.

Speaker 2: 34:05

And why why did it need more? Because obviously, it sounds very successful with the people visiting, which is just not

Speaker 1: 34:10

the pause. If you so when you have a buying season, you just need an influx of cash to buy the new collections, and it just wasn't well calculated at that point. We didn't even need that much put in, but, like, our boyfriends were, like, they just wanted us to fail at that point.

Speaker 2: 34:30

And you you you

Speaker 1: 34:31

So then I had this new woman that was gonna come in as a partner, change the name of the store, and she totally screwed me over. So at that point, I then went into, like, doing this new business in my location under a different name, trading name, and then I was like, I'm done. I'm going to LA. I was I was spending a lot of time in LA at this point. I would usually go to LA for award season for Oscars, and then I would never wanna come back because be so cold here. So I would go there for the fun, like, beginning of March and then I would stay for, like, a month or two and they got the point where I was like, okay. I just need to I just need to move to LA. But you because you're you're going

Speaker 2: 35:15

there for a fresh start, get away from England. Mhmm.

Speaker 1: 35:19

So I sold my flat and I just moved. I did it with my friend can swallow. So she was already based out there. She was

Speaker 2: 35:28

never gonna be a friend called Sarah

Speaker 1: 35:30

or something. I have some good friends called Sarah, actually.

Speaker 2: 35:35

So what so did you have a plan of what you were gonna do in LA?

Speaker 1: 35:38

Not really. I you know, I've I had done some TV work I remember, like, though, the so I started to get my visa was was kind of, like, the the first hard bit. And so I started with an h one b, which was a modeling beazer. So I basically went on the modeling beazer. But the problem is when I first went out there. I was booked for this film, and then we literally, like, on the set in Mexico. And then it's like, oh, shit. I don't have the right visa. To do it. So, yeah, it's but then I've, yeah, had an o one you know, it's it's become really strict. Apparently, it's a lot easier just walking over the border than like actually getting it the legal way.

Speaker 2: 36:26

I've got I had an issue with my Esther a few years ago. I used to live in I lived in Vegas for five years now. Oh, really? Had an issue with my Esther a few years ago, and I basically don't qualify for one anymore, so I

Speaker 1: 36:36

have to I mean, did you overstay or something?

Speaker 2: 36:38

It's it's a liz long long story for not long story not for a podcast. Okay. And I need to get around to doing a visa, but there's so many times I've missed out on trips. I always think, well, why don't I just fly to Mexico and pop over the border? There's

Speaker 1: 36:51

no one gotcha. Everything else just doing it, parents. They walk over the border and then they get given money, an accommodation. And, like, US citizens are being kicked out of their homes for these people. I'm gonna freaking do it. I'm just gonna put a wig on and, like, a mask and pretend I'm somebody else. Why not? Fake ID. Actually, a lot of them don't even have a passport.

Speaker 2: 37:14

Where did we get to? We got to your your visa when you got there. Mhmm. And and then

Speaker 1: 37:19

So yeah. So I started, you know, I was I was doing yeah. I I started, like, when I first moved, like, modeling work, bits of TV, then I got into producing. I think one of my, like, really fun producing credits I did was, like, this this this guy that I met through another mutual friend. And he's like, he knew I was sort of connected and, you know, in America like the lady thing does help. And he goes right, Victoria, I need you. I know you go to Canfil and Fosterville. Every year. I know you you know people. I've got this job for you. I need seven celebrities booked in four weeks for this televised poker special in can. And he's like, you know, who do you know? And I'm like, Oh my god. Who do I know that plays poker? That's like a big name. And I actually thought, okay. Dennis Hoffman. Right? So we had a kind of a list of actors. And you know, I ended up getting everybody, which is so crazy. I never even had a producer credit at this time, but obviously like I'd done done TV and, you know, the managers, you know, they responded, oh, yeah, lady Victoria Harvey. We've heard of her, like, And so, Dennis Hopper, like I happen to know, his wife and I'd been through an event at his house, because he's respected. Right? You always have to go for the eldest one who the other actor's respect because once you have that first signing, then the others will come. So I got him to agree. He happened to have three movies, two movies in CAN that year. And you know, so we ended up paying for his filler and, you know, it was it was a pretty cushy deal. So once I had him, Then I got Summer Hayek. And Summer Hayek wanted to add Nordina X. And, like, it just kinda went from there and then I had Tim Robbins and Goldie Horn and, like, Asia and Brody, and they all said yes. And it was nuts. And I remember, like

Speaker 2: 39:29

This was a live camp for a workout episode. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 39:31

I got them all to can. And I remember, like, having to do, like, the the nitty gritty, you know, with their agents and managers. And the person representing Woody Harrison. So Woody Harrison, what a character he is. He actually ended up winning this poker festival. His his agent goes to me, right, he's on a live set in Bucress right now, and he's gonna be coming straight from Bucress. So, like, if you want him in a tux like you need to fly it out with it. I'm gonna give it to you. So they drop off this tuxedo from Duchy Gabbana and this pair of like vegan shoes because he's like super vegan and won't wear leather. And she's like, yeah, if you don't get this to him, he's gonna just show up in shorts. So I fly with the stuff. Just before flying, I look in this box because it's like it's like I don't wanna you know, he's known to smoke weed and stuff. I'm like, I don't wanna deal with a situation, but I don't know what's in the box. So inside the shoes, there was all these notes And I can't remember the movie he was playing at the time. I think he was like nominated for an Oscar for it. Anyway, it's all these notes like rolled into these shoes. It was so bizarre. But, anyway, I met him in the hotel locker.

Speaker 2: 40:47

No note. Sorry.

Speaker 1: 40:49

It, like, notes from his movie that he was doing. Notes. Yeah. Yeah. Written notes. Yeah. He was like and I meet him in the lobby of the hotel. And literally he shows up like a few hours for the event in flip flops and shorts. And I like hand him his doctor Gabbana suit, and I'm like, here you go. Go change. It's like those kind of moments, you know, like, it's fun. It's like, wow. I can't believe I've actually pulled this off.

Speaker 2: 41:16

And and you you like that? You like the business? You like doing deals?

Speaker 1: 41:20

Yeah. I like doing deals. You know? For me, it's whatever comes really. I don't I don't kind of say that I'm in one specific industry. Like right now, I'm working in commodities and fashion. I have a fashion brand. I'm relaunching because I started this swimwear company just before year before COVID and it really like was going really well. And then my the factory that I was using in Asia and China by Hong Kong, everything turned into mask factories during COVID. And everything fashioned, forget it. But I am yeah. I'm kind of being concentrating on that again now. Like, how

Speaker 2: 42:04

do you sell it? It goes into stores

Speaker 1: 42:06

and loads of it online at actually. I'm just getting my online store done up at the moment. I'm gonna do kids as well because I think kids is a massive market.

Speaker 2: 42:15

My him once. I was just Yeah.

Speaker 1: 42:16

I actually did. I've got my nieces that are gonna be modeling for them. I was in the store that dosed

Speaker 2: 42:22

by some new shorts and Yes.

Speaker 1: 42:24

It's it's about doing it.

Speaker 2: 42:25

To get some matchy things.

Speaker 1: 42:27

Exactly. It's such a massive market and, like, kids grow out of stuff so quick. So It's big. Yeah. So I'm going into children as well. But, you know, like all of us, like during COVID and stuff, we had to kind of flip into different business. And for me, I started selling gold. I mean, it was bizarre, but you know, I'm I'm having I kind of have a secret life as a broker.

Speaker 2: 42:52

And so we'll talk to models in a second. We just fish on the swimwear. What aspects of that do you get involved? I mean, do you

Speaker 1: 43:00

I'm a designer. I'm a designer. I I design I every little detail. You know, it's like I choose. Okay. Which bit do I want? The crystal on the side of the bikini with you know, material and then I choose something that I'd like or have a design done and then it's amazing when you see that actually like come full circle and it's actually printed like the materials like how they make it. So yeah, so that will be that will be launch for this summer. What's it called? Ladyship.

Speaker 2: 43:32

Ladyship.

Speaker 1: 43:33

So it's a kind of play on the lady that also can be Ladyship. So Yeah. I'm excited about it.

Speaker 2: 43:39

And what what kind of customer, what kind of price points?

Speaker 1: 43:43

I'm doing it. It's like affordable luxury. So, you know, when I look at, like, other brands, just say, like, a friend of mine's done very well, Melissa AutoBash. But Mine actually less than hers, and I think more exciting.

Speaker 2: 43:57

We would try to go and put on the show up to you guys a day. You would Don't tell that.

Speaker 1: 44:01

No. But so, yeah, about, like, a hundred and eighty for bikini swim swimsuit. But, yeah, quality is good. Materials good. I'm very picky about that because it's like whatever I put my name to, but I'm also doing leisure wear and then going into like bags. And like I All under the I've designed. Yeah. So so it's kind of so Lady Ship is like the holding brand and then I have Lady Ship Swim for the swimwear. I'm doing Lady Ship ski as well.

Speaker 2: 44:32

Of course.

Speaker 1: 44:33

Ski wears massive. Like, I was just skiing about a week ago and it's huge. It's like it's it's something that has become so big now, having like all these new brands are emerging. And people spend a lot of money, people that ski, it's expensive. They want nice stuff.

Speaker 2: 44:49

My my elder daughter just rinsed me for a couple of pairs of salad fans.

Speaker 1: 44:53

It's got me a

Speaker 2: 44:53

couple of sports chair.

Speaker 1: 44:54

Right. It's expensive. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 44:57

And then going on to the commodities and the golds. I mean, what what exactly are you doing? How does that come about?

Speaker 1: 45:02

Yeah. That just I don't know. I get into too much, but that was just, you know, we all kind of had to flip into something new during COVID and it was like, oh, god. What am I gonna do? Can't sell bikinis. That that factory has now become a mask factory. So and gold is something, you know, when the economy is so uncertain, which has been for the last four or five years, everyone's wanting to buy gold.

Speaker 2: 45:28

So and you're you're selling And the physical the physical pieces for people say

Speaker 1: 45:32

stop off, not like No. Like the bus. I like trying

Speaker 2: 45:34

to physically taking it. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 45:36

Yeah. So gold and doing some other sort of other things.

Speaker 2: 45:44

That's very suspicious. Very

Speaker 1: 45:45

excited. Saphos, if you know, So, you know, some cholism. Yeah. So, yeah, friend of mine has some mines near Columbus Shalanca. So I'm gonna go visit sometime. It looks amazing just by looking at the pictures. It's like, looks super authentic, like the way they're actually going in and getting these sapphires. So yeah, for me, I'm an entrepreneur. I see myself as an entrepreneur. Prener. I don't see myself class as just one thing. At the end of the day, it's like, wherever you got that connection. Right? That's what it is. It's it is a lot of it, of course, what you know, but it is who you know, and a lot of this.

Speaker 2: 46:26

And I mean, will main things I talk about and not on some of those other podcasts, but in my my personal content, if you like, and what I attribute, you know, a vast part of my success too is if my network isn't is networking in general, you know, I'm I'm spending fifty percent of my life networking. I mean, this podcast is is is a form of networking for me. How much of your, I guess, how, let's say proactive and thought out is networking for you. I mean, obviously, life you were born into, you you were you were pretty born knowing a lot a lot of, you know, very useful and influential people from childhood. I mean, do you do you just naturally acquire people or do you actually think of networking as a as a as a task and activity that you do to grow your network?

Speaker 1: 47:14

Yeah. It's a little bit of both, but, you know, like, when I moved to America, I sort of it was almost like I was rebelling it against store that, I was rebelling against my network. Right? I just wanted to go be like free and live in California and live in t shirts shorts and be in the sun all year round and really not have a responsibility because most people in Hollywood don't work. You know, you go to a supermarket in the daytime and LA, and it's like super crowded, whereas other places like people have an office job. But I think the last few years changed all that, because more and more people work from home now. More and more people learn that actually they don't need to spend huge amount of rent getting an office when they can actually work from home. Forgot what I was saying. That was a question.

Speaker 2: 48:02

I was I was asking you if if growing your network

Speaker 1: 48:05

is a network of But yeah. I mean, I hose. It's it's a you know, my friends tell me that I'm just I do it naturally. I I you know, I am a quite sociable person. I'm a Libra. Apparently, my my sign is quite a sociable sign. So I do like being around people I do have nights at home quite regularly though. People think I'm this, like, crazy party girl, but actually, you know, I like being home with my dog a lot of the time. But, yeah, the network thing. The thing is, like, my mother always said to me, she's like, you're not gonna meet anyone sitting at home. Right? You're not gonna improve your life. And the thing is what I've learned is is like one baby step leads to another one, leads to another one. So I could be at event, and I reconnect with someone I haven't seen for maybe ten years because this kind of situation happens all the time. And then they tell me about oh, you should be coming to this. And so I would never even heard about this other thing if I hadn't gone to that first event. And then suddenly, you know, you can meet whoever, like, you might meet the person that is gonna help you with a business or anything. So I try and force myself to be social sometimes even when I'm not feeling it because once I'm out, I feel so much better.

Speaker 2: 49:29

And what brought you back to England from LA? What what what did you kind of Where?

Speaker 1: 49:33

Joe Biden? Joe Biden. Joe Biden and, yeah, America is not quite what it used to be. And I've literally watched it fall apart, especially California. California is quite it's having a huge problem with homelessness and crime. And I think at the point of three years ago when I had to buy a gun because the police the head of the Beverly Hills police and LAPD actually went on the television and said, we cannot guarantee your safety. Like, they were telling people if they didn't need to come to LA to not please, not come. And actually encouraged us to buy guns, to arm ourselves. That would at that point, I was like, you know what, I can't live like this. I I never even left and I lived in a good area. But the problem is like when I first moved to LA, it felt very safe. Like, when I was living in Beverly Hills, literally cut my door open, never felt unsafe. And now it's like it's it's it's bad. I mean, I had I'm sure I was sort of had some kind of PTSD when I got back because I was so used to, like, having either teaser or like a pepper even a pepper spray. We couldn't even you're not even allowed that here. I don't think. But I was so used to automatically having that with me even when I walked the dog?

Speaker 2: 50:57

Did you carry the gun as well?

Speaker 1: 50:59

No. Didn't have the gun, like, kept that, like, in the house, but I never went outside with a teaser. You know. And the thing is, like, in LA, it's it's a lot of these homeless that I said, they're so high on drugs and they're so crazy. Like, I had I had one, like, throwing glass at me, you know, telling how he wanted to kill my dog just because my dog barks at a squirrel, like, that's what dogs do. It just got very sketchy. I know someone else that someone came up behind them as they're walking down the street and, like, sorta strangling them. Like, this was happening my best friend from yoga that the thing I actually miss about Ellie the most of my yoga classes. I did Cundellini and my schools amazing over there. But my friend Trish from yoga, she had a bullet shot through her engine. And, like, she was just driving along on the border of Beverly Hills and and Venice on Santa Monica Boulevard. And she hears this noise, and she thinks it's her tire. She thinks she's like, run over something. So she stops. And her mechanic tells her, like, the next day, you know, you have a bullet through your engine. Like, You know how? That that is like so scary and that is not the only story. Like, are the people I know have had other encounters? And so it just got to the point where I was like, you know what? This is just like this could happen to me at any moment like I need to get out of here. And I miss my family, you know. I'm I my mother's not getting any younger. I mean, she's in great shape. But still, like, I feel like I need to be around for my family at this point, my brother, my nephews and nieces, you know, and my sister, she lives in Portugal. Just being closer to family, LA is so far away.

Speaker 2: 52:48

Do you not find England a dangerous place? I certainly

Speaker 1: 52:51

so that comes

Speaker 2: 52:51

back to where you're like

Speaker 1: 52:52

I know, but everyone says, oh, England is so dangerous. No. We got it good here. And I and I try and tell my friends at Libya that complain about anger, and I'm like go to LA, go see what's going on over there. Then you were all good in New York. And see the situation over that's way worse. I mean, I know it's not like super fabulous in England all all the time. But it's nothing like over there. Like, I don't feel like I'm I don't feel like my life is in danger like it was over there.

Speaker 2: 53:21

I mean, no.

Speaker 1: 53:22

And the Brits love to complain, you know. We do that really well.

Speaker 2: 53:25

We do. But, I mean, obviously, I've, you know, spent the last few years in Dubai and, I mean, you're getting used to a real next level of of Yeah. Safety of safety there.

Speaker 1: 53:35

I have I have friends that move to Dubai as well. And they love it. They they you know, when I go and visit, it's like they're like, don't worry. You can leave your phone on the table and walk away and it'll I

Speaker 2: 53:46

repeat people. There's somebody's reaction

Speaker 1: 53:49

to the way that walks. You know, I mean, no England, you can't wear a watch either. So yeah, there it's like you can bring the watches out and you can just leave things on the tables like, you know, if you're in a restaurant sitting outside, you're not gonna get someone just swooping in and stealing it. No. It it does. It feels it feels safe. Makes sense if you had lived in Vegas because I feel like Dubai is the sort of Arab version of

Speaker 2: 54:16

Vegas. Vegas with that gambling. Oh, let me just

Speaker 1: 54:18

go to No. It's Vegas with rules.

Speaker 2: 54:20

Yep.

Speaker 1: 54:20

Right. But what I like about Dubai is it has a mixture of like everything. It's got like every nice rest wrong that we can think of. It's in Dubai. Right? They have everything there.

Speaker 2: 54:33

So we can't have Lady V here without talking out about some royal gossip and some juicy things. But I guess to warm us up on that, quite famously dated Prince Andrew for a for a time a while back.

Speaker 1: 54:49

I would I really wanna go into that part so much. But he, you know, he is a friend, and I have been pretty much the only person defending him publicly. In the whole fake photo scandal, Virginia Jude Freight.

Speaker 2: 55:06

As in the photo that counts.

Speaker 1: 55:09

So I really want the person who recently went into detail about the Kate meddelson photo that they found, you know, was heavily edited. I mean, I didn't even for me, I didn't even see that as it was edited right away. That prince Andrew, Virginia photo. There's literally over fifty things wrong with that photo. And

Speaker 2: 55:33

And I've been a bit out of touch through all this for a while. So for for forgive me if this is all common noise now. So so is it is it a publicly? State you think there's

Speaker 1: 55:43

a fake

Speaker 2: 55:43

answer? Or was that

Speaker 1: 55:44

You know, Gilen has has said in her interview a year ago, she said there's actually over fifty things wrong with it. I've also found that amount. I have a witness that is coming forward soon and I have a whistleblower as well who is on a gag order until May. But once that comes off, like, the gloves are off. Like, you know, the public will be able to learn a lot more about the truth behind it.

Speaker 2: 56:13

And what would the origin of that photograph be?

Speaker 1: 56:16

So I'm actually in contact also with the real photographer. But he was scared to come out for a long time because obviously, like, it's criminal offense, really, what he's done. And because he does have a he was he was in prison for something really stupid that happened to him, but, you know, he has that on his record. And so he's been very nervous, but we plan to get that out I have this guy, George Tonks, who's the whistleblower. So as soon as his story comes out, I will bring in the photographer.

Speaker 2: 56:57

It was a gag.

Speaker 1: 56:59

He is gagged because he's been silenced because the US courts are very corrupt. And he's literally the whistleblower in this FBI case that is happening at the moment.

Speaker 2: 57:13

And what what do you suggest the the agenda is, as in, you know, who's who's leading it, you know, who's

Speaker 1: 57:19

Well, it was Epstein at Epstein in Virginia, but you know, I mean, this was literally like an attack on the royal family that was premeditated. And Prince Andrew was like he has been the scapegoat for this whole thing.

Speaker 2: 57:35

Has he just re fallen out prior to this one?

Speaker 1: 57:39

I don't think so. I think well, I mean, at the time, right, this is premeditated that this happened in back in two thousand and one. And they were still friends, you know, after that. But the girls that I have investigated complete colon artist's lawyer. So, you know, it just kinda makes you think, well, like, obviously, Jeffrey Epstein, he definitely, like, he he definitely played the field and he, you know

Speaker 2: 58:08

Did you know, Jeffrey?

Speaker 1: 58:09

I did. Yeah. I knew I knew him through Gilen Maxwell. But I think she has been treated completely unfairly as well. And

Speaker 2: 58:18

Did you I mean, when you say no, I was in, like, a little bit or you spent a lot of times ago.

Speaker 1: 58:22

I mean, I knew her like we had a lot of friends in common.

Speaker 2: 58:26

Not Joe. Sorry. Jeffrey.

Speaker 1: 58:27

Oh, Jeff Jeffrey?

Speaker 2: 58:29

Yeah. So I said, yeah. Did you know Jeff?

Speaker 1: 58:30

Oh, no. I yeah. I mean, I knew him through her.

Speaker 2: 58:32

Okay.

Speaker 1: 58:33

You know?

Speaker 2: 58:33

But when did you ever did you I

Speaker 1: 58:35

never saw some

Speaker 2: 58:36

stuff like that.

Speaker 1: 58:37

I mean, the only thing that I thought was weird was when I stayed in one of the apartments. Like, can I have this, like, weird sensation? Like, I felt like I was being filmed or something. But besides that, I went to dinners that would totally normal. I never saw girls that are under rage. You know, he he was kind of like that guy that you see in Santa Fe at lunch. You know, in one of the popular places with a bunch of bike good looking people around them. Like, that was what it looked like. But I think the timing of it all, it was it was cleverly timed, you know, by the lawyers that this story would come out during Jubilee, so they would just pay her off and be done with it. And, you know, that isn't how it turned out. Like it's been, you know, ongoing. And, you know, I'm hoping, like, in the next few months, he can be completely prince Andrew, can be exonerated from all of this.

Speaker 2: 59:38

As as his low profile being purely purely on the back of this, is this?

Speaker 1: 59:43

Well, he he just wants we've got, you know, get through the next few months, basically. But a lot will be revealed in May when my witness will be off a gag order.

Speaker 2: 59:56

And I mean, you used to work a lot more on my witness or I'm doing this. I mean, is this in the capacity of a friend of Andrew you've got some No.

Speaker 1: 1:00:04

No. No. No. No. It's it's a guy who's in based in Chicago, have never haven't actually met him in person. We've just been talking for about year and year and three months or so. He is the person that has the evidence on that Virginia lied, and Maria Pharma lied about a lot of it as well, and it will help Galen.

Speaker 2: 1:00:29

But but your your role and this is just as as friends of

Speaker 1: 1:00:32

these. Yeah. For me, it's just like, I just want this whole thing to go away because, like, you know, originally, I did some interviews for a couple of networks. I can't remember which ones I've done. I've done so many at this point. And I didn't wanna get too close to it because It's very hard, you know, with this me too movement. It takes like a lot to stand up to it and go actually know they lied because you know you're gonna have everyone after you for saying that. And in twenty nineteen, on Piers Morgan's show at the time when he was doing the breakfast show, I said, I thought I think that photo looks fake. And I said about the girls saying, they don't this is not girls out of traffic. Like, for me and my head, knowing stories of trafficking, like, traffic girls at a traffic that literally chained up and, like, beaten and put in a cage and, you know, rate all day long. They're not girls like on a yacht drinking champagne, getting flown in and, like, you know, these girls were all like hookers, basically. They're all hookers. Sarah Ransom like I found her original agency that she was at with her agency pictures and everything. Like, they're cool girls. They're not sweet little innocent girls. They knew exactly what they were doing. And actually, none of them were even living in Epstein's house in New York. They all had boyfriends, and they all had their own apartments. They could come and go as they wanted. So there was no, like, forced anything.

Speaker 2: 1:02:04

They were. I'll be interested to see how old plays. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:02:08

Yeah. Me too. Me too. Me too. Me too. I just I literally just want my life back because it's got to a point where it really did take over my life. And, you know, I'm living in this weird bubble with few of us knowing, like, the truth. And it's like it gets hard for me sometimes to actually, like, talk to people in, like, real life because we're living in this, like, weird bubble. So yeah. I wanted to get back to normal.

Speaker 2: 1:02:37

Talk to him about Prince Harry. You've you've first spoken out about that recently saying that you think you should be back here.

Speaker 1: 1:02:43

It's it's really hard. Right? He's in love with woman who has taken him away from his family and his friends and

Speaker 2: 1:02:50

Do you know him personally, by the way?

Speaker 1: 1:02:52

Mat him years ago, I haven't seen him recently. And he's someone that is like he was very well loved by Britain and pretty much everyone love Prince Harry. You know, he's like the rebel royal. He's kinda cool. Like, he's off in Vegas. Like, you know. But he was seen as like the cool rebel who was like cut a kind heart and then he falls for this woman who is completely kind of taken over his mind. And no one seems to be able to get through to him. But it was like, I always said in the beginning, I have a feeling she's gonna take him to America. You know, that's what a lot of these narcissistic type of people they do, especially like the covert narcissist. Like, they wanna take them away from their surroundings, from their friends, and keep them keep them away so they can control them. And that is like what has happened to him. I mean, he moved to Alay at the worst time in history. Like, he moved to Alay during COVID. It was like, terrible there. So, literally, he moved as I was I I was getting ready to leave and couldn't wait to leave. But, yeah, do I see that lasting? I really don't see it lasting, but the problem is those kids now, like, where are they gonna go? Like, she's not She's not gonna obviously move back here, and I don't think she will be welcomed here. But for Harry to make up William, you know, I don't see those two making up while Harry is still married. I think it'll take years to repair, but if he is on his own and he kind of apologizes for his behavior. I mean, you you know, I also think, like, Kate's cancer is probably, you know, aided by a lot of the stress that they've caused them.

Speaker 2: 1:04:45

And you you say that, you know, you you believe they're playing the part of the victim to get to gain attention, etcetera?

Speaker 1: 1:04:52

Yeah. It is. It's this whole victim herd. It's this whole sort of leftist victim. Oh my god. Look at me. Pull me. Like, no Harry. Like, look at you. You're in a living this amazing life, like, you know, everyone has trauma. Like, everyone has childhood trauma. Like, I lost my dad young. I lost two brothers young. Like, we all have to get over it. I think the me me me thing, it just doesn't work. But he was never like that before he met Meghan. Like, this is a new thing. It's almost like he met her and he's she's sort of become his, like, therapist. And that book was just it's just terrible. Like, how can you how can you write a book on your family like that? You know, I just don't know what the other books it's supposed to be like a four or five book contracts. So I don't know what's going on with those ones. You know, we've got the Meghan autobiography, haven't we? And then there's a book that they're doing together on like a lifestyle sort of book apparently. So, yeah, who knows? But I think you know, the UK, I did feel sorry for her in the beginning. I gotta say like, I know how evil the press can be here, but she didn't play the game. You know, how could she think that she's gonna marry Prince Harry and everything's gonna be easy? Like, she obviously went in thinking like this sort of Cinderella story and she likes to do, like, the kind of fancy events. Right? She didn't wanna be going to hospitals every day, like, the kind of stuff that Kate does. And then she's like, okay, I'm piecing out. I'm going back to Hollywood and but I think it'll get to a point where she'll just dump Harry. She'll, like, go off with some sort of you know, billionaire type and he'll be sort of thrown and thrown out. And Harry I don't see it ending well. I think Harry is just too much of a nice guy and I think he's been completely, like, mind, his mind has been taken over. But you can't tell anyone. Right? When they're in love, like, you can't tell them. And then afterwards, they're like, why didn't you tell me? It's like Harry, the whole world has been telling you?

Speaker 2: 1:07:22

Well, it's in a slightly different vein speaking about victims. You spoke out recently as well about your sister Mhmm. Who who has been subject to domestic violence, but, you know, too weak to speak for herself.

Speaker 1: 1:07:34

Yeah, I mean, you know, she then actually did an interview. I thought it would be really important for her to do it because you know, this thing had been going on. She only told her family, like, a few years ago about it.

Speaker 2: 1:07:51

At what point did she split up withhusband?

Speaker 1: 1:07:53

World about a year ago. He ran off with another woman. He ran off with the woman who is like the agent selling their house. And then, like, moved in with her within about three weeks and just left. And that was the best thing for her because if you sorry. You hadn't done that, then, you know, it would have been a lot harder for her to leave. So she gave him the ultimatum and and and and he he laughed, but it's been it's been very hard for obviously like three small children. He laughed it were pretty much like not thing. I mean, she's living in this mansion. But, like, you know, when I went there in December, he cut the heat off. She had electricity, but there was no heat. I was like, I opened the door and she's got like a pop a jacket on inside and I'm like, god, this really bad. He wouldn't put the heat back on, and it was in his name, and the company would not put it into her name. Can you imagine that? So luckily, we were, like, in the middle of changing lawyers and the new lawyer managed to do an agreement with his lawyer, and the heating came back on. But I said to her how long is the heat of being on? And she lives in Portugal. So look, it's not it's not as cold as England. But it gets pretty chilly there in December, you know. Yeah. He'd had the heating off, I suppose, like, the whole time. You know, because you don't need heating there in, like, October, but it probably starts like November, December. So, yeah, it's been really hard. I think the kids are the ones that are really suffering. Well, every time we

Speaker 2: 1:09:28

should be coming back to england.

Speaker 1: 1:09:29

When that happened with the house, the oldest one, Victor, he said to my sister, he's like, I know daddy is killing the house because he doesn't want us to spend time here anymore. So like the kids know that their father was making the house call so they didn't want to be in that house. And then my sister's done really well with her cycling and she got into the, you know, in the team for representing Great Britain. And I was meeting her in Scotland in the summer. She caused me up crying at the airport the day before or the day she was flying. She's like, oh my goodness. He he basically got a court order done. She was at the airport with her youngest order India India is very prone to getting, like, sick more because she was a twin when the twin died. And he got this thing when my sister, Sunny, was gonna be arrested at the airport because she was flying with India to Scotland. And I said, look, just go back to the house, we'll figure it out. I ended up booking her a new flight to go the following morning. She made it to the, you know, the the championship. And, you know, I said, you have to, like, prove him wrong because he's just trying to break it right now. And for him, it was like, oh, yeah. Watch she's good at. I'm gonna stop her going. Like, this is a massive thing that she was representing great Britain in this. So, yeah, it's been hard for her, but the cycling is really helped her a lot. And now getting the voice out, and he sort of got to a point where I was like, isabella, like, I need your permission to stop putting out those photos on in diagram and, like, let's see what reaction we get. And, of course, like, journalists, friends of mine messaged me quite, you know, quite quickly and we're like, wow, I can't believe this. And I was like, yeah, it's time, but it that took a lot for her to be brave because the retaliation was crazy. And every time she does something, you know, he fights back with something else. So it's been it's been hard, but I was a witness and caught fire about ten days ago. So

Speaker 2: 1:11:45

you've got a full you've got a full time job taking taking care of friends and family.

Speaker 1: 1:11:49

I know. It is. So that's another thing. It's just like better that I live in England now when I'm dealing with stuff like with my sister and I can fly to Portugal, like easily, you know, and LA was it was getting to be, like, too far away to do things last minute.

Speaker 2: 1:12:06

Well, it's been a whirlwind of a life over the last thirty ish years. What have we got to look forward to? What big projects are on the horizon?

Speaker 1: 1:12:18

We shall see. Right now, yeah, I'm concentrating on lady shit, my brand. So that's sort of like number one right now.

Speaker 2: 1:12:25

Any other particular passions or interests?

Speaker 1: 1:12:29

Passions and interests. You know, just like my hobbies. I I just yeah. I love sport. What sport did you? Well, horse riding or sports skiing. Those type of things. I love traveling. Like for me travel. It just kinda keeps me like it gives me that boost of energy when I'm away. My mother wishes to me. I understand you. Love traveling. She's like, but your grandfather was a diplomat. My grandfather was a dip amount of South America. And she's like, you must get it from him because I feel I feel alive. Like, I love being home. But as soon as I'm in, like, a new place and a new surroundings, like, I feel like alive, you know, that feeling.

Speaker 2: 1:13:15

A lot of the destinations I just hate the travel.

Speaker 1: 1:13:17

Yeah. I don't like the airports.

Speaker 2: 1:13:20

Listen, Lady Victoria.

Speaker 1: 1:13:22

Good to meet you.

Speaker 2: 1:13:22

Thank you very much for being here. Thank you for being pottest and Pottest. And most socialized to a royalist guest than we've ever had. But, yeah, no. It's been a pleasure having you here. And I guess, along with the Swinger Air brands, just for anyone watching or listening who wants to maybe buy that or catch up with you. Where where can we find you online?

Speaker 1: 1:13:44

So my website is ladyship swim dot com, which is being made right now, but I have an Instagram as well, which is Leadership Swim. So that will tell you more up dates. And, yeah, I'm hoping to kind of, you know, stop my own show at some point soon as well.

Speaker 2: 1:14:05

You can help me as a guest.

Speaker 1: 1:14:06

So yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:14:09

Isn't it?

Speaker 1: 1:14:09

I get asked to delete doing a podcast, and I'm like, I know it's just like it's just starting it, isn't it? It's like that little first bit of getting the setup and your mic and all of the kit.

Speaker 2: 1:14:20

Was your only top tips?

Speaker 1: 1:14:21

Yes. I do. You only need tips. Thank you.

Speaker 2: 1:14:24

Thank you very much again. Alright.

Speaker 1: 1:14:26

Alright. Bye.

Speaker 2: 1:14:27

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