Tell us what you like or dislike about this episode!! Be honest, we don't bite!
This week I'm sitting down with someone who is used to stripping off, someone who needs no real introduction, glamour model Katie Price. In our second round (watch our first interview here), we dive deep into her life in the public eye, discussing the traumas she's faced, her suicide attempt, time in the Priory, bankruptcy, and the rise and fall of her million-pound empire. From her early days as Jordan to becoming a businesswoman, author, and reality TV star, Katie's journey has been as wild as she is.
We dive into the stories behind the headlines, exploring her resilience and determination. Katie opens up about her darkest moments, mental health struggles, and relentless media scrutiny. We also cover her time in the Priory and the financial turmoil that led to her 'second bankruptcy'. Despite these challenges, Katie continuously reinvents herself and her brand.
Katie shares her ambitions and the projects that invigorate her spirit, from the prospect of training as a paramedic to the unexpected success of her podcast with her sister. We also tackle her straightforward take on plastic surgery and the responsibility of being a public figure influencing body image perceptions. There's an air of anticipation as we talk about her upcoming podcast tour, Netflix documentaries, and West End show, she really doesn't stop!
So, does Katie Price answer all my tough questions?👇🏻 Watch the full podcast now to find out. Tune in for an episode that offers not just a candid look at Katie Price's life, but also insights and inspirations to navigate your own challenges and aspirations.
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
5:50 - The Priory?
12:36 - Bankruptcy
17:30 - Who's around you now?
19:43 - Bad judge of character?
22:31 - What about with men?
24:41 - The Media
27:20 - Katie's Driving Licence
34:04 - Best Earning Times Throughout Your Career
36:40 - Regrets?
39:54 - Dealing with trust
40:36 - How do you protect the kids?
41:49 - Do you help your kids with their careers?
43:57 - What do you think it is that's kept you in the press for 30 years?
45:34 - Does it scare you that you may wake up tomorrow and everyone has lost interest in you?
47:03 - Broken Foot
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As an entrepreneur, investor, funding expert and mentor who has been building and growing businesses for both myself and my clients for more than 20 years, my fundamental principles are suitable for all industries and businesses of all stages and size.
I’m constantly involved in funding and advising multiple business ventures and successful entrepreneurs.
My goal is to help YOU achieve YOUR financial success! I know how to spot and nurture great business opportunities and as someone who has ‘been there and got the t-shirt’ many times, overall strategies and advice are honest, tangible and grounded in reality.
Tell us what you like or dislike about this episode!! Be honest, we don't bite!
This week I'm sitting down with someone who is used to stripping off, someone who needs no real introduction, glamour model Katie Price. In our second round (watch our first interview here), we dive deep into her life in the public eye, discussing the traumas she's faced, her suicide attempt, time in the Priory, bankruptcy, and the rise and fall of her million-pound empire. From her early days as Jordan to becoming a businesswoman, author, and reality TV star, Katie's journey has been as wild as she is.
We dive into the stories behind the headlines, exploring her resilience and determination. Katie opens up about her darkest moments, mental health struggles, and relentless media scrutiny. We also cover her time in the Priory and the financial turmoil that led to her 'second bankruptcy'. Despite these challenges, Katie continuously reinvents herself and her brand.
Katie shares her ambitions and the projects that invigorate her spirit, from the prospect of training as a paramedic to the unexpected success of her podcast with her sister. We also tackle her straightforward take on plastic surgery and the responsibility of being a public figure influencing body image perceptions. There's an air of anticipation as we talk about her upcoming podcast tour, Netflix documentaries, and West End show, she really doesn't stop!
So, does Katie Price answer all my tough questions?👇🏻 Watch the full podcast now to find out. Tune in for an episode that offers not just a candid look at Katie Price's life, but also insights and inspirations to navigate your own challenges and aspirations.
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
5:50 - The Priory?
12:36 - Bankruptcy
17:30 - Who's around you now?
19:43 - Bad judge of character?
22:31 - What about with men?
24:41 - The Media
27:20 - Katie's Driving Licence
34:04 - Best Earning Times Throughout Your Career
36:40 - Regrets?
39:54 - Dealing with trust
40:36 - How do you protect the kids?
41:49 - Do you help your kids with their careers?
43:57 - What do you think it is that's kept you in the press for 30 years?
45:34 - Does it scare you that you may wake up tomorrow and everyone has lost interest in you?
47:03 - Broken Foot
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I’m constantly involved in funding and advising multiple business ventures and successful entrepreneurs.
My goal is to help YOU achieve YOUR financial success! I know how to spot and nurture great business opportunities and as someone who has ‘been there and got the t-shirt’ many times, overall strategies and advice are honest, tangible and grounded in reality.
If you could put me in prison just to clear it all, just do it.
Speaker 2:Katie Price good morning.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, Matt, and hello everyone listening.
Speaker 2:Let's get to the agenda.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you haven't even got an agenda.
Speaker 2:Why did you go into the Priory?
Speaker 1:I've never been in there for addiction. I've got severe PTSD.
Speaker 2:You did have what was your first bankruptcy.
Speaker 1:I think then yeah apparently I'm in another one. I didn't even know about that. I read that in the paper. I don't know why they keep going on about the bankrupts. It's just so boring. Just get over it.
Speaker 2:Who do you have around you as professional advisors?
Speaker 1:I've had all these years of being ripped off stitched up. I don't trust anyone.
Speaker 2:Would you say you've been a bad judge of character.
Speaker 1:I've realised people weren't my friends.
Speaker 2:What do you think it is that's kept you in the press for 30 years? I?
Speaker 1:actually don't know that answer. I suppose my life's like a soap series, but in print Hung yourself. Literally I hung myself because I just didn't want to be here anymore.
Speaker 2:Hey, matt Haycox here, with a quick interruption Just to say I hope you're liking the show, but please, please, like, subscribe or comment. That's how we can bring you better guests, that's how we can make the show better each week. So please, please. That's all I ever ask of you. We never charge, we never ask anything else. Just please give us a few moments of your time. Guys, matt Haycox here and welcome to another episode of Stripping Off with Matt Haycox, I normally say, where we strip our guests off metaphorically. But this is probably my first guest who won't mind stripping off anyway. She needs no introduction, she's been on the show before. Katie Price, good morning.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, Matt and hello everyone listening the title Stripping Off Exactly.
Speaker 2:We only changed it about a week ago, ten days ago.
Speaker 1:Oh did you.
Speaker 2:Almost as if it was changed for you.
Speaker 1:It's fate. I believe in fate, fate. Yeah, the last time it was before COVID, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:It was, it must have been about November 2019. Bloody hell, and we've actually I think both of us have got a lot of repairing to do, because, I mean, that was by most horrendous and also most downloaded podcast by most horrendous and also most downloaded podcast.
Speaker 1:Why was it horrendous.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you why Me, because you were both of us, both of us, right? Oh no, you were all over the shop, all right, and we'll talk about that in a minute. You were all over the shop and I was quite new to the podcasting game. You were the biggest guest I'd had on, and A I wasn't the best speaker and B I was probably, let's say, nervous to bring you into line, so I just I let you ramble, I stuttered my way through it.
Speaker 1:And since then I've had a breakdown. Went into the priory after that, Not after your show, but around sort of that time. Is that what?
Speaker 2:being on a podcast with me makes happen a breakdown.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't but yeah, no, so it's.
Speaker 2:I mean, it was like a double-edged sword. I think we've had nearly a million views on YouTube.
Speaker 1:Really Unbelievable. So you do the YouTube and all that as well. So I'm starting my YouTube up again now we filmed this as a video audio.
Speaker 2:Oh that's good. We stripped the audio off for iTunes and Spotify, but then the video goes on YouTube so yeah, so it'd be super viewed on there, really downloaded. We got lots of press off it as well. But when I knew we were doing this, I thought I want to talk about some different stuff that A I haven't done to death and B you haven't done to death as well. So I thought I'm going to have to go back and watch it, just so I know what we talked about.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I can't look at myself. I can't look at myself. My face has probably that's a weekly occurrence. Do I look different to then, or the same?
Speaker 2:You know what, whenever I know somebody, I always find it difficult to say if they look different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I don't care. No, no, no, I don't mean because I'm going to insult you.
Speaker 2:I can't even tell if the missus has had a haircut in half. Everybody just looks the same to me. I'm terrible with age as well. If I actually know what your age is, I can't guess I'm 46 in May.
Speaker 1:How old are you again?
Speaker 2:43.
Speaker 1:No you're younger 43. You look like you've lost weight as well.
Speaker 2:I've lost about.
Speaker 1:You've lost loads of weight since the last Are you training boxing. What are you doing?
Speaker 2:Training, eating a bit better. What's with the black eye?
Speaker 1:Oh, here we go. What excuse? Go on, no, no, no, boxing training I'd love a good story.
Speaker 2:It's just a bit of filler. I had a bit of filler last Thursday, friday, yeah, that's the whole.
Speaker 1:You should have put concealer on it. That's the whole thing, though. When you get filler Because men can have it as well yeah, because it's under your eye you get all these like duck things under there. So, yeah, you're prone to get bruising. But you know, even like with that, I think, men, if they want a brace to have Botox and a bit of filler, why can't men do it? It's the same with women. But, yeah, you look fresher, you look slimmer, thank you. Yeah, you look better than the last time I saw you have.
Speaker 2:Last time I saw you have you had your teeth done since?
Speaker 1:Yes, I have. I know it's everything.
Speaker 2:I wasn't hesitating to think. I didn't want to omit it. I was trying to think about the timing. Yeah, no, I had them done about a year or so after that. I'm actually getting them done again on Tuesday, are you? What's wrong? Well, this is just composite. Oh, is it composite.
Speaker 1:What are you?
Speaker 2:doing so, then I don't have to damage them underneath You're doing them in England. Yeah, my mate is a dentist and he did these for me. I love his work. And yeah, a little shout-out to James Taylor.
Speaker 1:I love it. So I've got a turkey for mine, because I just don't. I've never really found a dentist in England. That's good, so it's.
Speaker 2:I need to introduce you to James.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Not that.
Speaker 1:I need mine doing again.
Speaker 2:Not for another few months. No, so let's get to the agenda yeah, you haven't even got an agenda. I haven't got an agenda but this is what we're going to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is what I love about me and Matt we're going to go back to. I talk a lot.
Speaker 2:We will get lots out, don't worry because I want to try and talk about some things that about before. Uh, obviously you are very vocal, very outspoken, so it might be hard to fight hard to find some new things, but I want to let's not go too far back. I want to go back to when you and I last spoke yeah uh, which was just after covid.
Speaker 2:Obviously, we we met, uh, we met through the podcast, spoke a few times after and we last spoke as you were coming out of the priory in about two. This is about march 2020. Covid's about to start and you've gone into the priory in about this is about March 2020. Covid's about to start and you'd gone into the Priory, and then I broke my feet and then you broke your feet. But before you broke your feet, tell me why did you go into the Priory? What?
Speaker 1:was the turning point. Was it the first time? I think I can't remember if that was the first or the second time. I've been in there twice as an inpatient Never, ever. Despite the media who love, love to hate me and put me down all the time, I've never been in there for addiction for alcohol or drugs. I've got severe PTSD and I was in there for severe trauma rehabilitation and I still see the therapist and a consultant now because I just think it's good for my head, because I still have a lot of shit going on but I know how to deal with it.
Speaker 2:Did you take yourself in there?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I went and saw him a week before, and the week after is when I crashed my car. And then because I went in there a week before to say look, because I was filming Mucky Mansion at the time. Was it that time or was it before? I can't even remember now which one it was.
Speaker 1:But to be honest, I've been in them both times for the same kind of reason Media exes and the pressures when you get depressed. And it starts when you sort of get depressed. Depressed is because you can't handle everything, all the pressures of everything, and then it was the exes then, like they were trying to say about the bankruptcy, about the tax and that. But when you're depressed and ill you start not communicating with anyone. So I didn't want to pick my phone up to anyone, didn't want to answer my emails.
Speaker 1:Then you getting bills through. Then you're like, oh, I've got that bill. Now, I've got that bill, that bill, and before you know it it becomes a massive noise in your head, like noise, and I didn't know how to cope. So then I'd go down and down more, didn't want to send it to the police, I just had a breakdown, um. And then obviously the husband was it that time or was it before then I can't remember who cheated on me. I can't remember who I was with then Because I've been in there twice it's all like one noise to me.
Speaker 2:Now you were single because when you came out and we last spoke, you then just got with Carl as in. You started to meet Carl when you were coming out.
Speaker 1:Then it was the first time then yeah, that was the first time I'd come. You've been in um, it's all the same thing. Pressures of like them saying about the bankruptcy and it's the worst place to be in because they are horrible the way they word letters, this and that the pressure. You got this amount of days to pay this amount, this amount, and then you get more bills, more bills. And the thing is when you're, when you're someone like me, if I don't go to work, no one can replace me. I am the product and I hate that word, but I realise I'm a product.
Speaker 1:I have been to people. I've realised people weren't my friends. They're like use me as a product, what they can earn money from, and then they don't care. So when you're in a situation like that, you realise who's really your friend and who's not. So I had to get rid of a lot of people around me. So I had the breakdown. I was in there five weeks both times five weeks and it's really hard in the Priory. I think people just think you just sit in there and do nothing. You don't. You go to your lessons. When I say lessons, they're all tight. I don't know if you ever been in the private or anything like that.
Speaker 2:No, I don't know anyone else, so I've never right.
Speaker 1:So basically, when you're in there, you get a time, you so you see the consultants, therapists, so they find out what courses are right for you.
Speaker 2:Um so everyone in there goes on something different, because they're all yeah, so you've either got addiction or general.
Speaker 1:Basically, or they've got if you're, if you're anorexic, you know they have all different things. So I was general and general are people mainly who've got PTSD and it's like. It is like how you see the films. You all sit in circles and you hear each other's stories, ones who want to talk, some don't, because they just haven't even got the energy to talk, or You'd be talking for them, wouldn't you?
Speaker 1:haven't even got the energy to talk, or you'd be talking about that, wouldn't you? I did talk a lot in there, yeah, um, but yeah, you get to learn about validation, self-worth, assertiveness. They get to the root. They go into your brain to find out your triggers, what's triggered you off to get in this? I mean, it's so interesting art therapy. Art therapy is you walk in the session and every time it's different. They might say, right in the next 10 minutes, I want you to draw or put down on paper what's going on in your head today, like that, and you get loads of different sizes of papers, colours, pens, chalks, felt tips.
Speaker 2:And then do they analyse that then?
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's on your brain, Cock and balls yeah, this particular picture. I chose an A3 size paper and the quarter of it, I drew a line down it and I put all stick men like falling with no faces, and then above each one I put who were my problems, so like media, police, social manager and some of the exes' names, because they were the ones who were causing that in my brain. And then the other side, I drew a palm tree, sunshine, all my animals, the kids, all smiley faces, sunshine, because that's what I wanted. But at the moment I'm dealing with that bit. That was what was on my mind and how they analyse it, because that's why I was in there. It's weird how they do it. And then another time I did art therapy, a different, but you have to style it with a door, you have to draw a door and I drew my front door, so I suppose it's working towards. Um. So basically I'll cut it short because I could be all day talking about therapy is now, if there's any bills, pressure, pressure, anything like this, at the end of the day, it whether it's bad or not.
Speaker 1:If you communicate, that's, that's the key. If as soon as you ignore things, that's when it becomes a problem. So always communicate and then they know you're still there, not ignoring, so the problem doesn't get worse. You've just got to communicate. If you're in a bankruptcy or anything, you set up a payment plan. Do all this because, at the end of the day, there's so many people in this bankruptcy and it's so annoying that the media every day bankruptcy Kate, bankruptcy Kate it's like, yeah, we get it, she's in a bankruptcy. So many people get getting a bankruptcy.
Speaker 2:Just let me get on with it. So what's actually happened, though? Because obviously I had to take everything I'd seen in the press with a pinch of salt. So the first time we met, you were just about to maybe, and then you did have what was your first bankruptcy, I think.
Speaker 1:Then, yeah, apparently I'm in another one. I didn't even know about that. I read that in the paper.
Speaker 2:But when you say, apparently you are, apparently you are, are you saying that the press are talking shit?
Speaker 1:I didn't even know about that one.
Speaker 2:I just know I'm in one. Are you in it though?
Speaker 1:Well, I just know I'm in one, I only read that I'm in another one.
Speaker 2:So I only knew that last week so I've got to deal with that because I've had no letters about that. Who do you have around you as professional advisors? Obviously, you know I don't anymore.
Speaker 1:I feel like I became noise and annoying for them. So at the end of the day, they can't help solve it. So it's like if there's a bill to pay, I've just got to do a payment plan with them and they find out what you earn. They might want to take a percentage of what you earn, so I've got to get back to them and sort all that back out. But I'm not ashamed of it. I've turned a leaf around. I've come out of a really bad dark place and the way my brain's connected now it's like it's okay, you can deal with it, it's fine. It's not the end of the world. You're not dying. You've still got your family. You've still got your friends. You've still got your house, my house is safe. Everyone's always like, oh, her house is good, my house is safe.
Speaker 1:Bankruptcies are different with all different people, and people have to remember that you can get insolvency or I'm still learning it all myself, but I've just got to deal with it. I'm fine, I'm working. I feel like I've done a reset button from when I first started modelling and my headspace. Then I feel like I've gone back to that. I've had all these years of being ripped off, stitched up you name it in shit places, this, that. And now, through therapy, I feel like I've gone through a washing machine tumble dry, come out the other end, learnt it all. And now I feel like I've reset the button, because now the doors are all open. I'm positive, manifest the double numbers, and now I'm like Kate, it's okay, you're here, you're alive, you've gone through it, you've survived, and now it's just starting again.
Speaker 1:Not starting again, I mean my mindset starting again. I'm earning well, I'm focused, my mindset starting again. I'm earning well, I'm focused. It's like I've started again because that makes it. But yeah, you have the bankruptcy, but you do payment plans when you pay them and then you just get on with it, rebuilding, and that's what I've done. I feel like I'm in a better mindset than what I was then and I'm earning again. Because when you go through a stage of breakdown and the paper's right about it, people are like oh no, she can't be right to go near, because she's probably like mentally not. Do you know what I mean? Mentally not able to work, or whatever. And I was like that. But now I'm flying Like I'm having to turn work down now because I've learnt don't take everything on all at once.
Speaker 2:You know, you've got like what work are you doing now? What makes up your income?
Speaker 1:I'm doing two shows for Channel 4 at the moment and everyone knows they take time to film. I'm doing loads of podcasts. I do the podcast with my sister. We've got a tour again in May. I'm touring also through the summer.
Speaker 2:What's a tour? Like you going to theatres?
Speaker 1:or something to do a show, do our shows. My book comes out in July, july the 18th my new book, my autobiography, so obviously I've got a promo for that. What else am I doing? I'll do my Only Fans, which I fucking love doing, because that's like the Jordan stuff, although I don't get nipples out or show anything, it's just like when I used to do Loaded FHM, and I love being in front of the camera. I'm a show-off, I love it. You can't take that away from me, so I also do that.
Speaker 2:We've had quite a few people on here who've turned to OnlyFans.
Speaker 1:Anyone can do it.
Speaker 2:You're big mates with Kerry, aren't you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, she goes a bit further than me now, but I'm just staying where I am.
Speaker 1:Do you know what Girls and guys smash? Onlyfans. And I think people think it's just for porn. It's not the way I look at it is. It's just like me doing my shoots. I used to do no different, but I love it. Like me doing my shoots I used to do no different, but I love it and it's good for my head because it's all I used to know and love doing. So I do that Literally. I am so busy. And then I'm doing a lot of what are they called gay prides, doing half-hour singing sets, but once you've done that, the TV I'm just full. And then I'm starting my YouTube channel up again because I left that. It's so hard to build subscribers on that, but I'm opening that again. I want to do more reality on that again. So, yeah, busy.
Speaker 2:So tell me, because I just want to talk about. I guess, people and people around you. So I said to you a minute ago who's advising you with this stuff or who's helping you? Said you know nobody. Then obviously, with all these different work things you're doing I mean, especially when it comes to books and channel four I mean oh no, I have people to do. Oh yeah, no, I do.
Speaker 1:I thought you meant like I don't have an entourage, don't have a manager anymore. Um, because they ripped me off or they've done bits, I just don't. I don't trust anybody anymore. Don't trust anyone Because I've had friends let me down who I thought were my friends. Friends betray me. Friends sell stories, managers the same. You think they're close when really they just want their 20%. I don't trust anyone anymore. Matt, like nobody.
Speaker 2:Which I get, given, obviously, everything that's happened to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just keep a close knit around me and the people around me are the ones I belly laugh with, and when I say belly laugh actually laugh, Like, laugh. And so I've got like a PA that helps me do all my stuff. I've got the housekeeper. What I mean is I've got such a good thing around me, so now I'm able to go to work, come back, enjoy stuff with my kids, instead of me coming back having to clean, do the washing. I've just got everything all set up nice, so now I can go to, I can concentrate, and I'm bringing my format back. I want to do my perfumes, bikinis, my underwear. I'm bringing it all back.
Speaker 1:But it's taken a few years to get to this point because mentally I wasn't strong enough. Don't get me wrong. Behind the scenes I'm still dealing with stuff with the kids, situations there, which isn't nice, and there's been a couple of court dates I've had to go to and obviously I've still seen my consultant because I still have to look after my brain and my head and myself. But to sit in court and be ridiculed by media and barristers and have public there, my head's not ready for that. So it's slow steps, but I'm in control of everything. I know what I'm doing, I know what my head can take and I never knew how to handle all that before. So I feel in a good place now and I'm working loads and I love it. I just love it. Yeah, I'm loving it.
Speaker 2:And how do you pick now? Do you think or love it? I just love it, that, yeah, I'm loving it. And how? How do you pick now? Do you think? Or how will you pick people to, to be a friend, to go into a circle, because I guess, and just finish because, um, obviously I get that you've been let down by all these people yeah but it's also not not realistic to say that every single person in the world is a prick no, I don't see.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no I mean, would you say you've been a bad judge of character?
Speaker 1:People take kindness, my kindness, as a weakness they take. Do you know what I mean? It's like I'm too kind. I'm the type of person if someone said, ok, I need somewhere to stay or something's happened, I'm like, yeah, come and stay with me. And then, even if they end up overstaying, I'm not the kind of person to say, look, I think you've overstayed, now you need to go and inside it would more wind me up but I'd still be nice.
Speaker 2:That's almost what we were just talking about, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. So there's none of that anymore. I'm not having people take the piss out of me, which I used to, and, for example, if you go for dinner, the bill would always come to me and it's like am I paying for my entertainment? Like, if you can't afford to come to some of these places, don't come. Just say you don't come. Don't think, oh, kate's going to pay, kate. It's situations like that where I feel I've got the real people around. Of course, I'm always open. I have found new friends as well, who I love and amazing. So, yeah, I am still open for new friendships and stuff. I've still got some of my old friends, but there's a lot of people around me who I realise weren't?
Speaker 2:And with the new friends, what makes you think you can trust them more than the old ones that you thought you could trust at the time then, it's just, for example, messaging or phone calls.
Speaker 1:How are you, kate, not about me, me, me, me. What event are you going to, or can I come to that? There's nothing like that. It's not even about work. It's like, oh, what are you up to? How are you feeling? What are you doing?
Speaker 1:Oh, if you watch this, on Telling it, I'd ask them about themselves. I'm like, oh, should we get the go and do something like normal, normal friendship? Do you know what I mean? Or do you want to come around for lunch? I'll make you something, or we go there, or it's just equal balance, whereas before I realised it was just me giving me, offering, like I think that's because I might have been needed, thinking, oh, if I don't offer them to come here, or if they don't do that, they won't want to be my friend.
Speaker 1:You just go through all of that. So now it's like no, if you've got a friend, you've both got to be in it together. It works. I suppose it's like a relationship, but I know, with the friends around me now I might not speak to them for a couple of months, but I could pick up the phone. We just pick off where we are. That's what I call a friend or I've got a couple of friends I haven't, might not seen for a year, not because that, just because we're busy and they don't and we don't live near each other, but then when we see each other we just finish off where we started.
Speaker 2:They're the kind of friends and what about with men then? Because, again, it's very easy for me or the general public to make comments from the outside, looking in and not know what really goes on behind closed doors. But I imagine we would all say we look at you and it's history repeating itself. You're always upset.
Speaker 1:So this is the situation I'm in. If I'm pictured with someone, automatically the papers it looks like I'm shagging them. If I'm pictured with a man, if I'm pictured with a woman, they don't say nothing. What am I not allowed to have male friends? Now, if I do want to see someone or see them, the papers would be like oh, she's a slag, or she's with another and another one. So it doesn't really give me that much of an option. I'd rather say, yeah, I'm with them, so I'm not with anyone else.
Speaker 1:It's a hard situation. I'm doomed or damned, whatever I do. And it's like I haven't had as many people as what people think, because I've been married three times and yeah, I am 45. So of course I've, I suppose every. I don't do dating, I don't go on dates, I haven't been on a dating site. So what? Am I not allowed to just go for dinner with someone or something like that it's I can't win, whatever I do. Do you know what I mean? I can be on my own and I didn't want a relationship when I split with Cole because I was done with it. Done, done, done.
Speaker 1:And then, obviously, I met up with JJ and, like with JJ, it hasn't happened quick because we've been talking for months before. But it's like, why do I have to explain to anyone out there what I'm doing and who I'm talking to? But I think because he was on TV and people, some people recognize him when we're out or whatever it's. It's hard for me, but if I want to keep someone private, I can keep them private and if that person wants to be private, they can be private. And I think that does scare a lot of people that they think, or they'd want to be with me, but they don't want to be in the media. They don't want to be in the media. You don't have to be in the media. Do you know what I mean? You don't have to put posts up on Instagram. You don't have to do any of it. I think people are so sucked in about everything has to be on Instagram. You have to tell everyone what you're doing.
Speaker 2:I don't tell everyone what.
Speaker 1:I'm doing now. I don't care if they don't ever write about me again. I think they're so cruel. They mentally abuse me and they just pick, pick, pick, pick. I can't remember a positive story they've ever written on me ever. I can't, Couldn't even tell you.
Speaker 2:Did they not used to? I mean, I can't remember 15, 20 years ago.
Speaker 1:Oh, it was different then. You didn't used to get good stories back then.
Speaker 1:It wasn't that it was good, it was playful. I used to have such a good relationship with the media and it was fun. Fun times that was. But now the past 15 years, it's been horrific and it's just getting worse and worse. Honestly, I can't. I could not tell you a good story they've ever written about. I couldn't even. I can't even remember when that was. That's how bad it is and I'm like what do I do? That's so. I haven't murdered anyone. I've done nothing wrong. I'm a girl that's been in this industry, which is a hard industry to be in cutthroat this and that, you know, had a breakdown come through. It survived everything because I hung myself and I woke up from it because I just didn't want to be here anymore, and I did.
Speaker 1:I woke up black eyes a few years ago and then I went in the priory because I just didn't want to be here, because the media and everyone was just on my case.
Speaker 2:Is that the only time you've actually gone as far as that? That's why now.
Speaker 1:I'd never let myself get in that place. So I have to look after my head. If I know, I can't do something like go to a court to be ridiculed, for the media to write about me. I know what I can take at the minute, the pressures, this and that. So when I go to work, I want to work and be me, not sit there stressed lying. I just want to be me, whereas before I was suffering inside but I'd be like, yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine. When I wasn't inside I was crying, saying no, I'm not all right, I need help. I need help. I don't want to be in that situation anymore.
Speaker 1:So I always speak out about how I feel. So now I control everything I do. No one controls me. I'm no one's product. I'm loving what I'm doing and it's never been better. It's like, yeah, like the reset button, and I've been like this now what? For a couple of years, a year and a half, and it just goes to show when your mindset is set like good path again, focus, it does work. But only you can do it. No one can tell you to do it. You have to do it and you have to prove it to me. You have to turn up. You can't have excuses. You're not turned up for work, or do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:you have to prove it and be on form, basically and with these court appearances, you know, with some of these things I mean, and again correct me if some of these are fake comments in the press. But I mean, I've read comments that you've said, like you know, I don't care about the bankruptcy, I don't care if I go to prison.
Speaker 1:I've never said I don't care. I think what it is. I think I've got to a point where I'm so drained with it all that it's like, if you want to put me, I have asked. I said, if you put me in prison, just clear it all, because it's just constant nip, nip, nip. And I have said, look, if you could put me in prison just to clear it all, just do it. I'd rather you just do that than every day keep nitpicking, nitpicking, nitpicking. But they won't put me in prison because it's not fraud or anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I guess what I was trying to understand was like I know there's been the driving thing recently. You know where I think you've been done for driving.
Speaker 1:No, do you know what that is? So I should have got my licence back in April last year and I did the online drink driving course. So you get your licence earlier, so all on the course. At the end of it, the guy on the course I've got all emails, everything because this is still ongoing he said who were the high risk people and who weren't. So the high risk people they're the ones who have to go and do a blood test because dvla will want them to do a blood test. I wasn't a high risk and we sent the forms, exactly because he explained to all of us on the course.
Speaker 1:We sent the forms off, filled out the forms, we all went through it online what we actually sent it off, as far as I know, I was waiting for my driving licence, didn't come, didn't come, kept calling DVLA and then they said oh, we've had an anonymous phone call, an anonymous email, saying that you're not fit to drive and I'm like well, I am, because I filled out the forms. I am fit to drive. Like you know you fill out forms if you've got a disability or drug use or whatever. Um, eyes, or you know you fill out a fit to health form. Yeah, so.
Speaker 1:I filled it all out. I am there's nothing like nothing. Well, we've had a anonymous email. We were like well, who's it from? We, we can't tell you. Well, what's it saying is wrong with me, we can't tell you. So we're going to send you some more forms. Can you get your doctors to fill them out? So we took it to the doctors, took them to the consultant. They filled it out Yep, she's fit to drive. I've got one verse sent them back, takes four to the process.
Speaker 1:But on the end of it it says um, if you're 100% know that you're fit to drive, that your doctors were clearly fit to drive, then you can still drive. So I carried on driving because I'm like yeah, I am fit to drive and my doctors have said I am. And that's when that come out, because I was waiting for my license, because we're like yeah, I can drive because that thing. At the end the question is can I still drive if I haven't got my licence, like actually on form? And it says you can if you know you're going to 100% pass. So that's why I drove, because I know I am. What happens? They ring again. We've had another ominous, another anonymous email saying you're not fit to drive, we're like, but we filled out the forms. They need to fill them out again Four times. This has happened. Then I phoned, said look, I don't know why you're saying I'm not fit to drive. My doctors have said they're not filling out. Four times they've done it and said kate, we've never known this before. So you know, it's nearly a year now, in april. I don't know what's going on with dvla. You ring them up, you get pass, pass, pass. It's not actually someone you can talk to. And then, um, I phoned, said look, can I do the alcohol thing? Because if you're saying I'm high risk now when I wasn't high risk before, if you told me all this in the beginning, I would have done it, done the blood test last summer, passed it the alcohol thing because I don't really drink, even though people think I do. I don't pass that. Waiting for the license, yet another anonymous email. So it's just, someone keeps ringing them up saying I'm not fit to drive and then you have to wait. So I still haven't got my licence and now I won't dare drive because I don't know what's going on. But when they caught me I thought I could drive. The car was insured, everything like that. I've even got insurance for the car because they went on the DVLL site. We sent them all the forms that I'd done the course when I could get my driving licence back. And that's where I am. It's discrimination Again.
Speaker 1:Everything I do, someone tries to pick or do something. So really I should be driving and you haven't stuck a lawyer on it. Even the lawyers can't get hold of them, unless the only thing we could because there's no contact. You can do DVLAator. You just go online. You get like if you need this help, need this help, you go through. It's a switcher. There's not actually an email or someone you can actually deal with on there and the lawyers are like they've never heard of this situation with anyone before either. I've spoke to three different lawyers. They all said the same Kate, I don't need this, never happened before. It's unheard because they've looked at the forms. It's like, yeah, you can drive, but they're not telling me who this anonymous person is and why they're saying I'm not fit to drive when my doctors have cleared it four times the forms.
Speaker 1:I've done their blood test last summer with DVLA because you have to go to a DVLA doctor and they take your blood to check your alcohol levels in case they think I'm high and I passed all that. So I should be having my licence. I don't know what's gone on it now. There's no one to get hold of, I guess, and that really affects me because, like, if I just want to jump in the car and go to my friends' houses with my kids to have a cup of tea or something, I can't do it and I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere, no shop, I can't walk to a shop. So that does affect a lot of things at the minute for me. When I've done my time, I've done my two years not driving, done my community service, done it all, and a year on I still haven't got my licence. For what reason? There isn't a reason I'm fit to drive past the alcohol blood test and I still haven't got my licence. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2:I guess what I was probably trying to understand.
Speaker 1:But it's discrimination, just like the media. They write stuff like they said the bailiffs took my horse. What the fuck? Bailiffs haven't taken my horse. So then I did a video with my horse at my house saying hi Wallace, apparently you've been taken off me and it's things like that. But I don't want to keep. I've learned not to put stuff on instagram, not to retaliate things. I've learned that because it then creates more media. Stuff feels the fire, yeah, and I've learned not to do it. But when the bottom blow, when they said they've taken my horse and put it all over, I'm like are you actually for real? So that's why I've done a video of my horse, because I don't want to have to keep justifying, justifying, but they will write anything, anything and people believe it. And I'm like no, I'm working really hard, I'm earning good and it's like I've had a reset button. I couldn't be in a better position than I'm in now. I love it.
Speaker 2:What's been the best earning times over your career.
Speaker 1:When do you think you weren't the most? I think it's starting to be good again now, all these opportunities. The only thing. That isn't what we do. The only thing I'm earning good, like I did before, but the only thing I'm not doing what I did before. It's like the OK magazines when they used to pay so much money for shoots. I'm not doing what I did before. It's like the OK magazines when they used to pay so much money for shoots.
Speaker 2:I just don't bother with them because they just don't pay enough and I'm not going to waste my time.
Speaker 1:No, but that was a good income. Then they were good incomes. But other than that, my book deals they're all still. Yeah, I don't ever do anything cheap, because once you do cheap, the word gets around. They always want you cheap.
Speaker 2:What do?
Speaker 1:you think you've earned over your career?
Speaker 2:Fuck knows, I wouldn't have a clue. Throw me a number 10, 5, 20, 30? I remember I was in the Times Rich List.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't have a clue. I could not even put a number Millions, not a billionaire, I wish.
Speaker 2:I manifest for that, so I guess let's move that on to regrets. Then I mean, you must have burnt through some fucking cash. Do you know what I don't really I'm not a flash person.
Speaker 1:If I'm honest, you know who have taken a lot of my money Lawyers and for divorces. Lawyers and divorces take your money. Yeah, you should always pay your tax this and that, but obviously I went through a breakdown so then I didn't pay tax and that. But obviously I went through a breakdown so then I didn't pay tax and that's sort of where the bankruptcy things come from. And I will pay it. But it just has to be when I've got it, because I do have a lot.
Speaker 1:I play the mum and dad role. I have bills to pay, I've got outgoings, this that I've got to live. And yeah, I'm like no, I know what I'm doing. I feel good because I'm in control. Not other people control it, whereas before other people were controlling it. And I think, when I look back because when you earn so much money, do people take it? Do you know? Do you check? You don't. When you earn so much, you don't really check. You don't check because you're like I've got loads of money there, whereas now I'm in control, I know what I've got, I know where it goes, I know what I do, I know what I spend on and that's it.
Speaker 2:And you look after all that yourself. Yeah, I don't want anyone doing it.
Speaker 1:Oh, you still have an accountant because you have to have all that I mean for a year remember.
Speaker 2:Like week to week, day to day. Only you touch your money.
Speaker 1:Everything's invoiced, I money goes, know what I do, know what I have to put out for the trustees, this and all of that. So, yeah, so I don't know why they keep going on about the bankrupts. It's just so boring. Just get over it.
Speaker 2:I mean, I know you're someone who likes to bounce back, who likes to be positive.
Speaker 1:I've definitely bounced back more times than hot dinners.
Speaker 2:Jesus. But what about regrets? I mean, you know what do you really truly regret? Relationships, specific ones, or just men in general?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I suppose it's maybe the person I am now. But I think relationships are big things. I've regretted because I started this industry young. I suppose I was needy, gullible, but since therapy I've learned, learned no, for a man to be with me, they're lucky. Not me think, oh, I'm lucky to be with that man. No, they're lucky to be I've got five beautiful kids. Um, I work, I'm independent, got my own house. Any man that comes to me no, they're lucky. Whereas some people might say, what, how can they be lucky're 45, got five kids. I'm like, so what? There's still five human beings. And it's still what I'm trying to say. I'm a family person. Yeah, I know I'm nuts and I love being nuts. You know I've got Not that I care about a label Last year diagnosed with severe ADHD.
Speaker 1:But in a way I'm glad because that's the creative side of me. You can't change who I am, you can't change my personality. I'm professional when I need to be, and if I'm out with my friends to party and then I'm like, yeah, I'm here, I'm like the entertainer, because that's just me. I'm just, I'm just me. You just can't change that, yeah. And so relationships are regretful because now I know my worth. I know what I want. I know what I want from a relationship, not just jump in one and go, oh yeah, look, they're good looking, they might have a good body, or I'll be with them. I'm over all that like what do you want?
Speaker 1:to me it's more connect, having a laugh, the personality of some, having a laugh, what they can bring, what I can bring, and that's nothing to do with money or nothing like that. It's like you want a best friend in a man. You want to know that you can go on holiday or do anything, but you can have a laugh together, not think, oh no, is he going to moan about what I'm wearing? Or if there's a person across the table, am I too scared to say, oh hi, how are you two? What are you doing, do you know?
Speaker 1:I think I've been in a lot of controlling relationships, controlling relationships, jealousy and all of that. Practically all of them have been like that and it's not healthy. It's toxic, not healthy relationships. I don't want that. I want someone to accept what I do for a living, accept what comes with it, because if you can't, you can't change me. You can't change what comes with me and you can't change that. I get media attention. You can't change that. If I go out, people want pictures, this and that. That's just me. I can't help that. I can't change that and I don't want something they can change me.
Speaker 1:The important thing in a relationship you adapt to be. Everyone has to adapt to a bit to be in a relationship to make it work. I mean, if you're in a relationship, you do things together, um, but also it's healthy if they want to go out with their friends. Do you know what I mean? Like you've got to be healthy and just trust. Loyalty is the best thing, I think. If someone crosses your trust or cheat on you or message someone else or has a flirty message, then you know their head's not in it with you. If you can sit there with your other half and have banter with other people while they're there, then that's more fun.
Speaker 2:And how do you deal with trust? Do you give it until it's gone, or do you check up? Check up. Check up no.
Speaker 1:I can't be arsed with the check up. No, that's wrong. You shouldn't have to check up. No, I can't be asked with the checkup. No, that's that's wrong. You shouldn't have to check up. You should just let them get on with their day. If they're like, well, I'm going to work now or whatever, like okay, I'll speak to you later and you've got something to talk about at the end of the day, not like what you're up to now, what you're doing where you're going, what's on your back, that's unhealthy. Just let them get on with it and then you've got something to talk about at the end of the day. Like I've learned, you can't suffocate someone. No one owns anybody. You've got to be your own person and get on with it. How do you?
Speaker 2:but, you commute, you've got to have that nice communication with that person as well how do you balance or protect or whatever the correct word is, with with the kids? Because I mean obviously, I mean you're you on whether it's with the press, with the kids, whatever yeah, and. I know it's. It's very easy to say, oh, I don't give a fuck, and you know this doesn't affect the kids. But there's got, there's got to be times.
Speaker 1:I do protect the kids when they see what you don't want them to see um, I can't hide anything I've done and I, the kids will know they've got what they've got and whatever. Because of what I've done. As far as I'm concerned, I haven't done anything bad. I have not done anything bad. If anything, they should look up to me and think God, my mum's a grafter, she's a worker, she works hard.
Speaker 2:Has there been any one particular standout incident or story from the press which the kids have taken hard?
Speaker 1:I think the kids, because they're at home and they know me and my family friends, so they know the truth. That that's what's important. People around you know really what's going on. Like the older kids junior and princess they've been brought up with it all and so they've got their own careers from it and I think because they've seen it all, they know how the media works, what they're like, they know if they're going to get interviewed, they're going to try and get asked tricky questions or whatever. They're smart. They because they've grown up with they don't know any different, like I don't know any different do you help the kids with their careers?
Speaker 1:I don't know I'm not one of these pushy mums.
Speaker 2:I support, but do you, but do you, do you help? Do you give them contacts?
Speaker 1:unfortunately there's an ex-manager of mine, who are trying to do the same with take my kids off me in that way as well. One of my kids is sucked into it and the other one is very like me. No, I do what I want to do. No one's telling me what to do. I'm not naming them, but one of them knows I'm their mum, the other one, I think they all disrespect me as a mum, as if I'm nothing, and the people around them look at me like I'm nothing. You don't have to tell your mum nothing. Don't report nothing to your mum. We don't even want your mum there. One of my kids was having a thing on. I wasn't allowed to go because the management and that were there, and then my sister and her husband went and they weren't allowed backstage with it all because they're like no, you're not here, but we'll give you some passes to get free drinks. That's how my family's treated from the management. It's disgusting.
Speaker 1:But I can't tell them, they learn themselves. I can only give my advice and they know that I know how to do. The press. Press calls this that. That's what I know.
Speaker 1:It's like if you go to a red carpet, why do people go to a red carpet If there's a film premiere, why do people go to a red carpet To be seen? Because they want to be seen. So if you're going to be seen, you want a headline or whatever. This is how I used to. Now I don't care what I wear. It's like if they want to put me in the paper, they do. If they don't, they don't. It's not like I need it and that's not being arrogant because I've been in it long enough 30 years this year. Wear an amazing dress or wear an amazing outfit or suit or something, because you're there to be seen. You need the press. Don't like. I know how to work it and I can only say look, if you're going to go somewhere, make sure you stand out like, be different. Don't be the run-of-the-mill like everyone else, because I know that work, because that's what I used to do or that's what I love doing anyway what do you think it is?
Speaker 2:it's kept.
Speaker 1:It kept you in the press for 30 years, I mean there's been, so I actually don't know that answer, because I've seen so many boy bands, girl bands, presenters, this, that models come and go, come, have their height and then down gone but I'm still here. It's like it's not that I try and recreate myself. I'm not recreating myself, I just do what I do. I'm not manufactured. I've got no one saying be like this, say this, say that I'm just myself. And I think, because I've got no one saying be like this, say this, say that I just, I'm just myself.
Speaker 1:And I think, because I've been in the industry so long it I suppose my, my life's like a soap story, like a soap series, but in print or in life. But people have to remember. But it really is my life. It's not like EastEnders or Coronation Street, a script, my life like a soap, but it really is happening to me and people follow it. So yeah, I think people can relate that I'm normal and I do go through true life events and then I get through them. I'm like a survivor.
Speaker 2:I don't know, do you think you've got another 30 years in you? Fuck me, yeah, you want it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and this is another thing, what people say. It's weird because, yeah, and this is another thing, what people say. It's weird Because in the beginning, all people who were like runners are now directors or producers of shows and because every time they meet me they're like Kate, you're the same, but I've still got that hunger. I've still got that hunger, that drive for it. I'm not bored, I'm not lazy, I want it. I'm still hungry and I know this is I've had a good time. I've had a good time. I've been through the shit, the turning point, and I'm hungry and I will do it again. And I love it. When people say, no, you won't, no, you won't, I'm like, yeah, I will, because that's all I've heard all my life and I am, I'm back on it does it ever scare you that you may wake up tomorrow and everybody has lost interest in you?
Speaker 1:if they have, they have, then I'd take, take that path. But I'm always like if People say, if you don't like it, walk away. But how can I walk away? Because then you'll get paps and that, wanting to see what else I'm doing, I couldn't exactly go into a normal job, could I? Because, like it's weird, I don't know, if people walk away, they walk away, I'm fine. I'm fine. I can carry on life without any of it. I'm comfy to do that.
Speaker 2:If you lost everything tomorrow and had to walk away, what would that normal job be? Do you think what? Do you think?
Speaker 1:the first way you'd recover would be Well. I'd be paramedic, Because I still want to train to be a paramedic.
Speaker 2:We talked about that last time you were on the podcast. Yeah, I just haven't had time.
Speaker 1:It's a five-year course.
Speaker 1:You started it back then, though hadn't you, yeah, well, yeah, starting it, and I've now redone it again, getting all the forms, the placement, because I want to go to uni and do all of that, and it's another thing. I'm trying to see a way how I can, how we can do it and fit it in. There's so much going on in my life, one thing at a time, Kate. But you're never too old to be a paramedic. You're never too old to help people. So, yeah, what? I just take each day as if it's your last, because you never know when your day's up. So just enjoy and do what you can in each day. And my priorities are my kids, my career, obviously, family and friends all together. And I still love my horses. I love my horses. You're still riding. Love it. Yeah, absolutely love it. Obviously, I broke my feet two years ago, which was life-changing, so I can't do all the stuff that I used to do.
Speaker 2:Did they never recover properly?
Speaker 1:No, I can never run again. I'd love to do the marathon again and the doctors are like no, because I've got 14 screws in my feet each foot.
Speaker 2:Well, how have you fell off the horse on both feet?
Speaker 1:No, I was on holiday getting my teeth done and I was mucking about with the kids and it was all dark and I've been to this hotel so many times. But we were the front bit of it and they had like a little bush and I pretended to be a horse to jump it and I didn't know it was 20 foot drop the other side into an underground car park and landed on my feet and I had sliders on so my feet literally were like eggshells yeah, wheelchair for 10 months. They weren't sure if I could walk again, so I had to learn to walk again. So I've been through it all and I'm like what else could possibly happen? I think I've had ticked every box of everything that could happen true life events and I've come the other side. I'm like, do you know what? I've been there, done it Now. Just do what I want to do, not be dictated by anyone.
Speaker 2:Well, you mentioned teeth and turkey and I guess we can't talk to Katie Price without talking plastic surgery.
Speaker 1:I love it and I will continue it.
Speaker 2:You must be responsible for 10% of the gross domestic income of Turkey.
Speaker 1:I absolutely love it. And the thing is, why? Why? Because I just like I don't know. This is the thing. I've probably got this. Everyone says I've got body dysmorphia. I probably have got it, I don't know. I don't know it's. I don't have surgery to look younger because you're all going to get old and I'm not scared of getting old, I just like to look fresher. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:but but do you think the repetition I tell?
Speaker 1:everyone what I do. It's not like no, I haven't had surgery. There's so many girls out there I've had so much done. Oh, I'm natural. No, you're fucking not natural. I tell the truth because I don't care If I think something. I've had a procedure and it's not worth doing. I'll say look, I've tried it, don't do it.
Speaker 2:Use tits as an example. So a girl's not happy with her tits, she gets a boob job, she gets them made bigger, and the only time she may do it again is years down the line when they need replacing. I mean, how many have you had now?
Speaker 1:I don't know I actually don't know, you've run out of fingers. Even if I Google, they seem to know more than me.
Speaker 2:But what would your reasoning?
Speaker 1:you know, obviously the first time you did it, you liked them bigger. Oh, I want bigger boobs, bigger and bigger and bigger. Sometimes I think, oh, I want bigger boobs. And then sometimes I'm like, oh no, I want them smaller again. I don't know, maybe I've got a relationship with my boobs as well. Do I want them big? Do I want them small? Do I want my lips bigger? Do I want them smaller? I don't know. It's just, I think, because I can change it, all I do.
Speaker 1:But I am 45. I'm not a young kid, so I'm an adult and that's my choice to make. But I do think a lot of girls who are young now and I wish, I think, there should be a law that girls start plastic surgery, like if they want their boobs, they should be 21. I've done one when I'm 18. I look at Princess she's 17, a year away from being 18. It's far too young to be having anaesthetic and that, If I could turn the clock back now, now I know what I put my mum through, because you're a baby, really, when you're that age.
Speaker 2:And what does Princess say about it? Oh no, she don't want it.
Speaker 1:She doesn't want procedures. Yeah, no, I think I've put my kids off for life for surgery, but she don't need it.
Speaker 1:Everyone said I didn't need it, but I wanted it and I thought I needed it. But I think girls these days, they have so much filler. I know I sit, I haven't got filler on my face, I've had it done do my lips. But I think so many girls young these days have so much filler, all of this to their face. They have all their jaw done. A lot of them look like aliens or a lot of them look the same.
Speaker 1:You go on Instagram, they all look the same and I'm like you're so young. What are you going to be like when you're my age 45? If you look like that and you're addicted to that now, what are you going to look like at my age? You know, when I started my career, they didn't airbrush pictures. There was no such thing as that. So I did my career without airbrushing all of this, making me look skinner, this and that just how it was. But nowadays I think, because you can airbrush this, that there's so many catfishes out there and I feel sorry for some guys if they go on dates with girls because they're probably like fucking hell, that's not the one in the picture and that's just the way things are now. But like if I could give advice to young girls just don't do it all. You don't Don't do it all and don't do it all at once. Just take your time. You've got your whole life to do it all, but now I'm on a mission when I'm 70, I'll probably still be fucking doing it. What?
Speaker 2:are you having?
Speaker 1:next, there's nothing I want. I don't know. I might get my boobs smaller, not too much smaller, just a little bit smaller.
Speaker 2:I don't know what normally happens. You wake up up, you're like I want to change this book.
Speaker 1:It in and go um. But the thing is for me, I heal really well. I'm a good healer and I think that's probably why I've had so many procedures, because I heal well. A lot of people don't and there's always a danger that um. The thing is you always see before and after pictures, whereas I don't care if people see in between pictures what it looks like after surgery, the bit that you go for where you look horrific. People don't really show that, whereas I do, and it is serious. Every time you're put under it's serious. It's a general anaesthetic. You know it's not good for your body, but I'm older and I do what I want to do, so I do.
Speaker 2:We spoke at the beginning, obviously, about the prior experience, about some of the ways they were helping you cope and recover in there. I mean, what have you brought into your daily life now in terms of trying to reduce stress, trying to, I guess, not let these relapses happen?
Speaker 1:I suppose it's. That's what I mean.
Speaker 2:It's not a relapse, A relapse to me you know that's the wrong word, but you know what I mean. Yeah, no.
Speaker 1:I know what you mean. Like I know my triggers, but I've got rid of people around me. I don't put myself in situations. I've yeah, my whole support group around me. Everything's just changed and I'm happier. I'm in a good place, there's no agendas going on with anyone or I don't have to worry like is my friend going to try and try on with my husband and that, because that's another thing. Women's instincts are, so go with your instinct. My instincts have never, ever let me down. Every time I've had an instinct about something, it's come true. Girls know. Like for girls, if you think that your friend Frances, your other half or something, you'll be right, you'll be right. Instincts have never let me down. I don't want people around me where I think that Like no, it's just all changed. Like I go out if I want to go, like the other night, I'll hop from.
Speaker 1:The paper said I was bankrupt buying all these drinks. I bought a round and my friend bought a round and we went home. This is an example how I've changed. We went and saw Priscilla, a theatre show. So I went with the guy who's going to write my West End show about my life and I met him in Panto in Liverpool because he wrote that and he writes shows and he does events and stuff. Oh, that's another thing. I'm doing a West End show about my life, so I went with him. He's our half With you in it. Presumably, I don't know, I'll get some to play when I might do some appearances in it.
Speaker 1:But um, so we went to the event. You had your celeb bit where all the celebs wanted to go having drinks, taking advantage of the free drinks, and I was like, no, I just really want a good seat and I actually want to watch the show. I don't't give a fuck who's there. I don't give a shit who's there. I don't need to mingle with anyone and have that small talk, bollocks talk. I can't bear it. I've done it for years. I don't need to do it. So we literally got a drink, sat down watching the show and in the interval got another drink.
Speaker 1:Soon, as the show lady of the show she was so good got a straight in her car and we went home where it was off with that and after party, all that, I wasn't there. I was there to watch the show, but yet the papers that, oh yeah, she spent loads of money getting drink and no, we weren't at all. It wasn't even like that and it's like they put in the papers. The other day I had this entrepreneur speech where they had speakers there and, um, I took bunny riding in the day. We got lunch and then I knew my time slot to go on stage when they wanted to interview me about business. Bunny wanted to come, she came, so I had all different outfits because I didn't know what I wanted to wear. And bunny being bunny, she always wears my shoes and she loves putting makeup on, so it's like fine, but they get a picture of bunny in my high heels and makeup, saying I took her to an over 18s event where there was burlesque dancers. We didn't see any of that. I got there, done my job and went home, but the papers put a picture up oh, she took her kids watching these burlesque shows, but we didn't.
Speaker 1:But this is what I mean about the media they tarnish everything I do not like. Oh, isn't it good that Kate's with her kids? You know she doesn't work. Her kid wanted to come with her, so she did. Jet didn't want to, so he didn't come. But it's like life to me is like a pie chart, so you've got to. If you do a pie chart, for example, anyone can do it Do a pie chart of how much time you work, how much time you spend with your family, how much self-care you have, how much holidays you have, and actually look at that and think, if you want to change that and that's what I did, so I changed it. So I want to spend time with my family more than anything and I want to work, and then holidays when we can Self-love, so you've just got to make it equal so it fits in with your life, where I never used to do that before. I'd just be like go, go, go, go, go.
Speaker 2:When you spoke of that entrepreneurs event or when you talk about business, what do you think your key business skills are?
Speaker 1:Well, I would say to anyone who's starting out start small, not big. Like if you want to start a clothing brand, say like you want to bring out tracksuits or something, just start with like two hoodies different color, two hoodies and then, when you get your money back in, instead of spending that, pull it back into stock, buy more stock and then you grow like that, because I think some people they just think, right, I'm going to get everything in all these colors, all these hoodies, spend all this money and then they're left with stock they can't sell. I always say start small and start with a business and then grow it, grow it, put money back in, grow it, grow it, money back in. Things like that you can work from home now.
Speaker 1:Like I think, because everything's so full now you've got socials, you've got you know everything's online now, so you don't have all these overheads. Like if you want stuff in a shop you have to pay overhead, shop stuff, distribution, this that you could do everything from home. A lot of it you could do from home now. And I think because of COVID you started doing Zoom calls this, and that Most people do Zooms and meetings on Zooms and all the things have just changed now. So I'm at home more than what people think now. You know I could do my TikTok shop from home, like there's just loads you could do at home and it's so much better.
Speaker 2:And tell me about the Katie Price show.
Speaker 1:The Katie Price podcast show I do with my sister. Literally I didn't realise how big podcasts are and I'm always talking to my family and my sister and this company approached us saying why don't you do a podcast? And we do, we just talk about anything. It's number 30 in the whole podcast charts.
Speaker 2:You and your sister took that together, just me and my sister, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I said how many people do podcasts? They're like thousands and thousands. I'm like what? And we're number 30. They're like yeah, and I'm like bloody hell. I mean, that's an achievement. We're in the top five for comedy and I'm like we're in the comedy. How the fuck has that happened? I'm not even funny. How often do you do it? Is it weekly Weekly? We do it, yeah. Then there's a subscription for the bonus episodes and we just do it weekly June. And then I said, can we do a theatre night? They're like, oh no, you've only just started in June. Like that's unheard of, like you've got at least go for a year, two years, you mean?
Speaker 1:in at a theatre. I said, well, I want to do it, let's try it. And we did, and we sold out the theatre in one night. So from that now we've got a theatre tour. So we've got all dates. It starts in May until June, going up and down the country doing our podcast show and when you're doing the podcast, we're on stage and in the theatre and you're recording it as a live podcast.
Speaker 2:No, we don't record it live.
Speaker 1:It's just a show that we do, so yeah. So I surprised them there. They said that's unheard of. You haven't even done it a year and now you're on tour. So it just goes to show if you put effort into things, it happens. You've got to do it. You can't just come off and come and think, oh yeah, I'll go and do a podcast today. We do it every week. Consistency and that's how you get the viewers, the listeners, because then we might be like, oh my God, this happening this week. If you want to know what happened, listen to next week. So it's consistent and then people get to know you. We get readers' questions in things like that. It's actually really fun.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll have to check it out on my train journey home Check it out.
Speaker 1:Have I spoken enough?
Speaker 2:Matt, have you spoken? Have you spoken plenty? I was just actually about to say I was about to wrap things up and say I was about to wrap things up and say it's been a pleasure having you here Always a pleasure, never a chore, never a chore. And it's also been much less chaotic than I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 1:No, because I've calmed down a lot.
Speaker 2:In all seriousness, you do look in a very different place to where you were three or four years ago.
Speaker 1:So it's good to see. No, I love it, so I'll have to come out to Dubai.
Speaker 2:Then You'll have to come out to Dubai, then You'll have to come out to Dubai, then you'll see us the chaotic way. But tell me, if we were to record again in another four years' time, will you be less chaotic, more relaxed, and where would you like to see yourself at that time?
Speaker 1:I'll have more of my empire back out there, more of an empire. I've got Daisy May Cooper who wants to do a Netflix my life story for Netflix. So hopefully my Netflix story life will be out on Netflix. I'll have my West End show out. I'll be doing the podcast. Have my perfumes, underwear, swimwear, clothing back on track, all the TV shows. I'm supposed to go to Texas at the end of the year to interview men on death row for a show that I'm doing Serial Killers. All of that because I love the crime. I've got my book coming out this year. Every door's open and I'm happy and I choose what I want to do and I'm loving it.
Speaker 2:And you might have smaller boobs.
Speaker 1:Well, I might have had them done about four times Different face, different teeth. I'll definitely have my face done by then. I want my upper thing done like that. I say I want it, I the seeds there, so I will be doing it I have no doubt listen, katie.
Speaker 2:It's been a pleasure. I'm sure the next four years are going to be as adventurous as a thank you so much for having me.
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