How To Get SHREDDED in 75 Days!!

Ever wondered how a kid who got weed on turned into a martial arts master and fitness mogul? Buckle up for a no-holds-barred chat with Scott Harrison, the muscle man behind The Six Pack Revolution. In this episode, Scott—fitness guru, black belt, and all-around badass—shares his secrets to shredding fat fast, getting drunk without losing your six-pack, and why his programmes have a 100% success rate. We dive into everything from the gritty realities of overcoming bullying and the low points that nearly broke him to the euphoric highs of his life-changing fitness journey.

Scott doesn’t pull any punches as he talks about battling misconceptions like bad skin, junk food, and the vegan diet myth, and the absolute horror of belly fat and tired eyes in the fitness industry. Plus, he gives the scoop on training celebs and educating kids on health and fitness with his children’s books. Whether you're looking to conquer your fitness goals or need some inspo, this episode has it all. Tune in, and you might just get ripped!

Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:58 - A Life Changer in Fitness, Nutrition & Mindset
3:52 - The Programmes
5:24 - 75 Hard and Fast Fat Loss
6:15 - How to get Drunk AND have a Six Pack!
10:23 - Extreme Fat Loss Results - 100% Success Rate!
14:21 - What is the Biggest Obstacle stopping people Starting?
17:07 - World Class Experts in Hormones on the Course
23:15 - Bulimia
26:23 - Martial Arts and Fitness Creates a Balanced Mind and Body
30:01 - Children's Books
33:37 - Educating Kids on Health and Fitness
38:18 - Vegan Food ISN'T Healthy?
40:17 - Health Misconceptions - Spot Reduction Fat Loss - The Mechanics of Fat Loss
46:27 - All Carbs and All Fats are BAD!
48:02 - Training Rylan Clark
48:48 - Varied Programmes for Varied Goals
50:22 - Programme Overview
51:11 - Conclusion

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Speaker 1: 0:00

I'd eat, be sick, eat, be sick, eat till I was bored. You know, my wife knows I would come out. She'd see my eyes watering. You used to suffer from bulimia. That's when I started getting badly bullied. The bully weed on me more than once.

Speaker 2: 0:14

What qualifies you to be that life-changing I was picking?

Speaker 1: 0:16

my kids up from school. The little kids were running out to their role models, all the parents. They were overweight and I thought to myself that doesn't look too good, does it? And then I realised I was one of them.

Speaker 2: 0:23

The before and after pictures in those 30 days, night and day chalk and cheese them.

Speaker 1: 0:28

12-day results look better than a lot of people's 90-day results. There's no pill, there's no injection, there's no potion. It doesn't exist.

Speaker 2: 0:48

What are the biggest blockers that stop people starting a journey of fitness or a journey of self-improvement? Hey, Matt Haycox here, with a quick interruption just to say I hope you're liking the show, but please, please, like, subscribe or comment. That's how we can bring you better guests, that's how we can make the show better each week. So, please, please, that's all I ever ask of you. We never charge, we never ask anything else. Just please, give us a few moments of your time.

Speaker 2: 1:08

Guys, Matt Haycox here, and welcome to another episode of Stripping Off with Matt Haycox, where I strip down my guests, metaphorically speaking, of course, although we have with me a fitness trainer, a fitness guru, a nutrition expert, a karate expert, businessman, motivational expert. So I'm sure if we do strip you down not metaphorically you'll have a bustling six-pack under there to see. But listen, I've got with me Scott Harrison and we were talking just before we started to record and Scott said to me that he changes people's lives through fitness, nutrition and mindset, and I thought you know what? Introductions aside, that is all we need to know about today, and I'm really looking forward to understanding how you change people's lives in that way. So welcome to the show, Scott.

Speaker 1: 1:55

Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2: 1:56

I'm looking forward to it as well. So listen, I guess, just set the scene and tell us what qualifies you to be that life changer through those three things.

Speaker 1: 2:06

Okay, so back in 2015, I was picking my kids up from school on a rare occasion and I was looking at all the parents and they were overweight and some obese, some were poisoned you could tell they'd been bloated and poisoned, drinking and stuff and the little kids were running out to their role models and I thought to myself that doesn't look too good, does it? And then I realised I was one of them. So that day I decided my New Year's resolution in January was going to be to get a six-pack.

Speaker 2: 2:33

But you were bloated and stuff yourself or just not had a six-pack.

Speaker 1: 2:37

Yeah, I didn't look like this at all and I just decided to blog it on Facebook and 36 others wanted to join me and I said I'm not messing around here. I was really strict. I managed to find I had this flair for keeping people on track. It was a 90 days back then and it was called the Scots Too Hot 90 Day Six Pack Challenge. It was just a blog.

Speaker 2: 2:59

really, you had no qualifications at this point in personal training or anything like that, you were just doing it the karate instructor.

Speaker 1: 3:05

Um, no, not really. And um, jump forward a little bit here. Um, we are now um a huge operation because it turned into a business. When I found out, I had this flare, my wife's nutritionist as well. She specializes in the application of nutrition to physical activity. Um, so, sorry, just go on. I've got also got a team that sit behind me of a doctor a doctor of chiropractic, a doctor of biochemistry, um a psychologist and a psychotherapist. Um, I also have a level three psychology diploma just about to start my degree myself. Um, so we've got like a very world-class team that I sit in front of. And, yeah, we now have participants in 77 countries, with tens of thousands all over the world every year changing their lives.

Speaker 2: 3:52

And when you say participants in 78 countries, did you say these are people doing a 90-day challenge or these are people taking a whole fitness course from you?

Speaker 1: 4:03

Well, no, we run six programs a year. They're 75 days each and it's an online fitness, nutrition and mindset program. We tell everyone what to eat every day, what to drink every day, how to think every day. We've also got a very big community of about. Each group has got about 100 or people in, and in that group you've got two assistant coaches, a coach, a senior coach, an assistant head coach, a head coach and me group. You've got two assistant coaches, a coach, a senior coach, an assistant head coach, a head coach and me and they've got access to us all day. Every day you ask a question, it's answered in minutes and we support and hold the hand through every single step of the way you say it's 75 days.

Speaker 2: 4:35

Is that? Is that um anything related to this 75 hard, or is that just just coincidence?

Speaker 1: 4:40

and that's just a coincidence. That's nothing to do with us at all.

Speaker 2: 4:43

How did you pick?

Speaker 1: 4:44

the number of days. Well, it was 90 days and originally the 90 days was because that was, like you know, the set time for a change. Isn't it like 12 weeks, 90? Days that was the thing, and then I worked out how to get better results in less time. So I managed to get two weeks off of that time with better results can you find me a 10-day course?

Speaker 1: 5:02

If only I could. I'd be the messiah, wouldn't I? But to get the results that. You know, that's life-changing. And if you look at our results, they're unprecedented anywhere else in the world, really from normal people that are not cheating and taking funny stuff. So that's why it's grown so organically, so quickly, because it's undeniable what you see.

Speaker 2: 5:24

I mean it is amazing what level of change can be made in a short period of time. I mentioned that 75 hard just because I've never done it myself, but I'm familiar with it. And a couple of mates of mine back in Dubai started doing it at the beginning of January and they just finished the previous Saturday. And one very good mate of mine who's seen it through all the way, I mean he'd started sending sending me pictures, never mind it, let's say 75 days, but at 30 days he was sending me pictures and the before and after pictures in those 30 days were just, I mean just night and day, chalk and cheese, uh, and it is just staggering. You know how much change you know what to do.

Speaker 1: 6:00

If you know what you're doing, you know to fuel the human body properly. It doesn't take long. Our 12-day results are coming out this evening because we I do every week like what we call our interim progress results.

Speaker 2: 6:11

Them 12-day results look better than a lot of people's 90-day results I mean I know you don't want to give the course away, but I mean can you, can you share some of the things that people are doing wrong that are easy fixes?

Speaker 1: 6:23

Yeah, yeah. Well, first of all, most programs are fitness-based programs with a bit of nutrition. That's the complete wrong way around. You should have a nutrition program with fitness, which is what the Six-Pack Revolution does. Also, you have to work on the mindset, because if someone doesn't stay the distance, then it's all been a waste of time. So you need to work on everyone's mind, as well as their body too, and the biggest problem that most people do is they keep focusing on calorie deficit.

Speaker 1: 6:51

Now, this will throw a lot of people listening all over, like what's he talking about? I'm very well versed in the rules of thermodynamics, I'm not stupid. But to focus on a calorie deficit only doesn't work, and what I mean by that is it depends on what your definition of work means. If you think that dropping a couple of pounds on the scales works for you, then this isn't the program for you.

Speaker 1: 7:15

What works for me is creating a body that works properly, works at its optimum balances, its hormones build a machine that runs as it should, not just loses the fat, but also gets rid of the anxiety. Your skin, your hair, the whites of your eyes, your teeth and your nails all become more radiant. You feel fit, full of energy vitality, your mind is clearer, you're sharper. That's what works for me, and also it's got to be sustainable. So at the end of the program, I teach everyone how to keep their results and still party twice a week. So then, not only have they changed their relationship with food and with drinking with themselves, but, going forwards, they can find that balance in their lives where they can do the best of both worlds. Because my plan was to hand people the key to happiness that give you your power back where you own yourself, instead of the drink and the chocolate or the alcohol whatever else owning you Out of interest.

Speaker 2: 8:06

Then when you say party twice a week, you mean like a heavy session on the piss, whatever you want. And how is that happening? Because I mean, listen, I'm 43 now. Right, I mean I've never been a massive drinker, but even when I used to be a younger person, I've always struggled to, let's say, pull myself together the next day. You know like I'd go out on holidays with mates and we'd be on a day session, a night session, whatever, or skiing, and I could never do these multiple sessions. If I've done a night session, then I'm in bed for the day. If I've done a day session, then there's no way I'm going out at night.

Speaker 2: 8:37

But now, as I get older, I mean I can't if I have two glasses of wine, right, that I'm feeling it the next day. I'm not saying I'm hungover, but I'm certainly, you know, running slow, you know not firing my best. And I think it's very fashionable nowadays to talk about quitting alcohol and you know, you get the preachers all over Insta. And I think, listen, quitting alcohol is not something that interests me, because I don't have a problem that I need to quit from, but I'm acutely aware of the fact that it makes a big difference, a detrimental difference to me when I have it. But that's a balance that I'm going to want to make on certain occasions. But how the hell can someone party twice a week and, I guess you know, feel good and I didn't say you wouldn't have a headache or anything.

Speaker 1: 9:25

What I said was you could keep your results. So that means let's say at the end of the programme, you're where you want to be, your tummy's in the shape it wants, your body and everything. You're fine, you're feeling strong. That isn't the same body that you've got now. So when you then have the chocolate or the alcohol, whatever it is, it's not so affected, um, for example, like it's not going to jump on your hips like it does now, because you've got a machine now that burns fuel efficiently. So when that naughty fuel comes in, it's going to burn that efficiently too. Now there's no program on the planet that's going to allow you to go back to eating and drinking exactly the way you were before and not end up where you were before. It doesn't't exist. There's no pill, there's no injection, there's no potion. It doesn't exist. All these weight loss drugs that they keep giving out now and saying this they don't give you weight loss, they suppress your appetite. There's no such thing as a weight loss drug. It doesn't exist.

Speaker 2: 10:18

It can stop you eating make you feel like you don't eat anything, but then you're malnourishing yourself. How, how, um, let's say extreme are some of the, uh, the overweights, or the or the, the differences in people who come on your course. I mean, what would? What would like the heaviest person be, and what would their results have been in that 75 we don't focus on weight at all.

Speaker 1: 10:38

I spend most of this is the mindset stuff. Now, we don't focus on what we don't want. So what's the one thing? Most people that come to a program like mine don't want more of weight. So what's the one thing we shouldn't be focusing on and giving our energy to weight? Let's focus on what we do want. That's the dress size, the, the flat tummy, whatever it is, energy, muscle, muscle. So our um, I think our biggest dress size was 32 right sounds big um.

Speaker 1: 11:01

We've got 18 to 86 year olds, 77 different countries, colors, creeds, cultures, abilities, disabilities, people with no legs, people with cerebral palsy, where half their body doesn't work properly, people with msme, fibromyalgia, diabetes, cholesterol, blood pressure, hashimoto's lipoedema, you name it everyone. And we have a hundred percent success rate in all of those chronic illnesses either becoming much more manageable or in complete remission.

Speaker 2: 11:29

Because you are what you eat I think it is amazing or, let's say, worrying to, to see or to learn how much that you know that food and lifestyle does have a knock-on effect with everything else. And you know, obviously you talk about improving some of these, you know life debilitating illnesses and and I mean obviously I can't talk from personal experience about something like that, but you know, I've been, uh I've been on a couple of these detox camps and things over the years which obviously are not not sustainable in any way, uh, like like your exercise program, but just to have done a week of juices, soups, lost some of the weight and then noticed immediately or during that week of weight loss that I'm sleeping better, that I'm not snoring that I'm not burping, bloated, whatever these things are, and they're changes that can be made in literally five, six, seven days, like I say, not sustainable, but to do it over a prolonged period of time, it would be fascinating to see the effects.

Speaker 1: 12:31

Well, that's the relationship change I talk about. You can't change your relationship in 10 days, so that's why it's a longer process, but it isn't that long if you think about it. That 10 weeks and five days is 75 days to change your next 30, 40, 50 years and once you feel how a human body should feel, because most of us don't. Since the day we were born, we've been poisoning ourselves with full-fat milk, bread, butter, crisps, sweet cakes, chocolate sweets, biscuits. I mean, my kids have all this. By the way, I'm not a Greek.

Speaker 2: 12:57

Yeah, I'm excited listening to all this.

Speaker 1: 12:59

And then comes the sipping of your dad's alcohol at probably the age of eight to 10. By 14, you're over the park with the kids where your mate sorry found a bottle from somewhere. I'm just telling you my lifestyle here. By 16, we was in the pubs back in the day pretending we were 18. By 18, you're drinking at every opportunity. That's not including the fags, the coffee, the salt, the sugar, the fat and any other drugs you might have tried in your time. And we're wondering why we cough, splutter and stop. You take all that away and clean it all up, a bit like when the pandemic was on and they were noticing that all the water was clearer and all the air was clearer and stuff like that. You just remove some of that poison and remember your body's built to heal itself. And also, the most big thing we see a lot of is the depression and the anxiety. I mean our people. Come to my program. Tell me, scott, it's my last chance.

Speaker 1: 13:51

If this doesn't work, I'm checking out what, what sorry I'm just saying and then and then, a mind is it? The mind is a part of that body too. So we think we've got a fat tummy or heart and lungs don't work properly because of what we eat. But every cell in our body is fed by what goes through our mouth, right? So this is that too. So the reason we can't cope with stress or Nandias and they give you antidepressants like no, you know, your body can cope with all of that stuff. It's built for that is built for that.

Speaker 2: 14:28

What are the biggest blockers that that stop people starting, you know, a journey of fitness or a journey of self-improvement? Because I guess I'm obviously not, uh, not taking credit away from your course here, but you know, ultimately we all know how to lose weight. You know, yes, you can get a lot more done from your course, but we all know, if we really wanted to, how to eat better, how to go to the gym, how how to not drink booze, whatever. But you know, obviously most people find an excuse to ignore that. I mean, what do you find are the biggest reasons that people who come on your course haven't wanted to try and find success beforehand?

Speaker 1: 14:59

Alcohol's a big thing, you know. On my course there's no alcohol at all whatsoever. So you don't join unless you've got that in your mind.

Speaker 2: 15:06

So you can have it again after the 75 days. Yeah, of course, yeah.

Speaker 1: 15:08

I'll teach you how to party twice a week. But, funny enough, once they start they find that the easiest thing to ditch and the thing that they don't crave the most. They crave things like crisps and salty type stuff and that, and some people are chocoholics so they'll crave that, but the alcohol is usually the lip of that. But initially, when people say that, oh, I can do that, so that's one of the biggest, biggest things, and also it's actually wanting to change your life, you'd be surprised. A lot of people like to live with their best friend, mr Misery, and the thought of being happy and changing all of that can actually be quite scary for people. Psychologically. People struggle with that.

Speaker 1: 15:49

But that's why, on the program it's really good, because humans work really well with structure and routine and that's why, um, you know, places like the army and prison are very um, structured and and full of routine and once you get into that, it actually becomes. And when you're sharing that time with a lot of other people, because you know, we get very motivated by the other people that are in the groups as well. So even myself, you know, some days I'm going to wake up and think, oh, I can't be bothered today. And then I'll see Doris, who's 55, in a wheelchair, who's a carer I'm talking about someone specific here just changed the name At five o'clock in the morning because she's got to get to her patient by sort of 6.30,. Whoever it is out whipping some battle ropes, I'm getting up and I'm like, wow, you know, and we support and motivate each other as well. So I think the biggest block, if you said to me name one thing, that's the biggest block is usually the alcohol thing.

Speaker 1: 16:51

What about drugs? Um, I, we don't have a huge amount of people that come on and admit that to us. You do get some honest people, though. We've had yeah, we've had, we've had people that have a drug problem, but that's really tiny amount that. But then I think that's a bit more taboo for people to admit so. So I think there's more than I know.

Speaker 2: 17:08

Tell me, you mentioned in the beginning that some of the world-class experts you've got on your course one's a biochemist. Are we talking hormones and things here? Is that where that fits in?

Speaker 1: 17:22

We sit and talk more of it, it as a group, and then we, we all put our sort of 10 pennies worth in. But it's got to the point now actually, where, because the program has been running for best part of coming up to eight years, and, um, it's a, it's the, it's the same rules. For one of a better phrase, the rules of feeding the human body don't change over those eight years. Really, you know, the, the biology of human body is the same, will always be. So we find now that we don't need, we don't have so many um, of those long meetings anymore because everything's kind of been covered. We do keep up on latest things and I listen to other bits and bobs and I sometimes discuss those things, but usually they're very fatty things that come out that, oh, the latest thing now, and it just makes no sense.

Speaker 2: 18:13

It's just a, a trick really and I mean do you, do you educate or do you do you advocate, um, for for the you know, I guess, for the hormonal rebalancing of things with clients? And I'll flesh your question out a bit more. So I, I started, I mean, listen, I've never, I've never not exercised, uh, but I've probably also never been like a gym obsessive. But you know, I, I started my, let's say, marked fitness improvement journey, probably a couple of years or so ago now, just over two years. There was a particular event that started it and I ended up seeing a doctor in Dubai, just by coincidence.

Speaker 2: 18:53

I mean, I'd just started going to the gym and eating better, and somebody said to me, when I told him I was just, you know, trying to lose a bit of weight, he said have you had your hormones done? Have you had your bloods done? You should go and see this doctor. And it turned out that I actually knew the doctor anyway. So I thought, yeah, I'll go and see him. And he specialised in anti-aging, in hormone rebalancing, et cetera. So we went and did my bloods, particularly on the testosterone. If you'd have said to me, as a layman, I always associate, as I'm sure most people do testosterone with shagging that's all there really is to think about.

Speaker 2: 19:28

So if you'd have said to me two years ago, do I have a testosterone problem? I'd have said absolutely not. When I got my bloods done, my levels. So our levels worked, let's say, from 200 to 800, 800 being the equivalent of a 21-year-old guy or something I 800 being the equivalent of a 21-year-old guy or something. I was at 425, which it wasn't a problematic or anything like that. It was fine for my age, but was obviously 50% off where I would have been at 21. And then when I started to learn and understand that testosterone was also massively impactful on energy, on muscle growth, on fat burning, on bone density, on sleep, on any of these things?

Speaker 2: 20:07

I started to think, oh well, okay, I could maybe understand what I could do with some improvement.

Speaker 2: 20:11

And I, you know.

Speaker 2: 20:12

So I started the TRT a couple of years ago and I always say that I'm, you know, I do it's PR for free, you know, I mean I've sent 35, literally 35 of my mates to this doctor and within two or three months, I mean the material change in me, and I say that from someone who you know, listen, I'm not saying I've ever been in the best shape, but I've always felt 20 years younger than I am, or rather, I've always thought I'm 20 years younger than I am and had, you know, reasonable amounts of energy and, you know, pretty optimistic and positive.

Speaker 2: 20:44

But fucking, I mean honestly change the change in me since then, both in terms of, uh, let's say, the quantity of exercise I do, the, the lack of tiredness I've got, the, the motivation, the energy. It's just again, it's just just absolutely night and day. Uh, and you know, I, I'm a massive advocate now to anyone of you know of the bloods, of the hormone rebalancing, of the fact that it's not taking away exercise, not taking away nutrition, but for all the exercise and nutrition in the world with hormones being off balance. You know you are fighting an uphill battle.

Speaker 1: 21:18

You'll be surprised because when you eat and, by the way, what we do is not clever it's just how the human body should be fed. So when you eat a balanced plate of food and that balanced plate of food is relatively specific, so a lot of people think they eat healthily and they eat healthy food, but it's not balanced healthily and there's a big difference. So when you balance the plate of food and have it balanced throughout the day with hydration water you can research this yourself well known for balancing hormones when your hormones are balanced, you are building a machine that works at its optimum. When it works at its optimum, it burns fuel efficiently, which is fat, and builds and maintains muscle mass and, as I said earlier, your hair, your skin, everything comes, your anxiety disappears, you sleep better, all these things.

Speaker 1: 22:05

Now, that's just everything in the world works better in balance. Right, you've got sun, moon. If you didn't have the whole thing, it would cave in Ying yang, positive, negative. You know, like when you've got a swimming pool and the pH balance of the water is off, it will go black and toxic Balance. And I use those analogies. And also the reason we balance it throughout the day is because, if you imagine a log burner, Do you know what a log burner is?

Speaker 1: 22:34

As in a fire, yeah, in the house it's in like, yeah, if you want that fire or any fire really, I've got a log burner. That's why I mentioned it if you want it to burn fuel efficiently all day. You start off the day and you put your paper and your kindling on, you light it all up and then you put your log on and the fire's burning. You wouldn't wait for it all to fizzle out, turn to ash again, then go back in say, right, I'm gonna put the paper, just chuck a log on every now and again and it will burn forever. It will never stop as long as you just chuck another one on when it needs it. And if you imagine the human body that way, um, again, it's all about balance. And when you eat in balance, balance throughout the day you balance your hormones. Balance your hormones, you're a different machine, not just testosterone, everything.

Speaker 2: 23:17

You used to suffer from bulimia.

Speaker 1: 23:18

Yes.

Speaker 2: 23:20

Is that a long time ago?

Speaker 1: 23:22

For over 30 years I struggled with bulimia.

Speaker 2: 23:26

yeah, which ones Is that making yourself?

Speaker 1: 23:27

sick, making myself sick, yeah All the time every day.

Speaker 1: 23:31

So from childhood. It happened when I was around about 13, and my psychotherapist lady on my team actually I did bring out to her and we identified that was when I became when I was bullied. That's when I started getting badly bullied and I was in a really dark place at that point. The bully weed on me more than once and I did nothing about it because I was scared and struggled to fight back from that. So I think that was maybe my way of controlling something. Apparently that's kind of the psychology behind it. But then I carried it on for another 30 years.

Speaker 2: 24:09

So were you overweight at that time.

Speaker 1: 24:12

Not at that age, no, no. So I don't really that time. Not at that age, no, no. So I don't really know why I chose that method. And then I guess I got to this point where I would eat and it would feel like it was always stuck here and I had to release it, and the only way for me in my head to do that was to stick my fingers down my throat. But then I'd go in an all you can eat buffet and I'd eat, be sick, eat, be sick, eat until I was bored. You know?

Speaker 2: 24:36

just stupid, really. You were getting banned from the all you can eat buffet to that trip, weren't you? But you know when?

Speaker 1: 24:40

you're on holiday and you know my wife knew I would come out.

Speaker 2: 24:42

She'd see my eyes watering and you know when you were happy, you were married, you had kids, you were doing karate et cetera. So I presume not worried about bullying. I mean, it was just psychologically stuck with you. I think so.

Speaker 1: 24:58

And also it would. But when I was on the six-pack revolution I never had the urge to do it, so it must have had something to do with the bad food as well. I want to get it out of me, maybe.

Speaker 2: 25:10

So you were still doing it up until the point that Six Pack Revolution started.

Speaker 1: 25:14

Yeah, I've had the odd relapse since, but it's pretty much non-existent now. Yeah, unfortunately. Well, fortunately it's non-existent. Unfortunately, I went through that.

Speaker 2: 25:27

Do you have other people who suffer from these kind of things on the course and do you work with them? You help them, yeah well, it's funny.

Speaker 1: 25:34

You said earlier actually and I think I went off on a tangent but you said earlier about what gives me the why me to be able to sit on this platform and do this stuff. Well, yeah, I've been through the bullying, I've been through the eating disorder, I've been divorced, I've lost a little boy. I've lost a little boy.

Speaker 1: 25:53

I've done all these things lost us and passed away and so all these things have happened and I guess would I change them now? I'm not sure I would, matt, actually because it's put me in the best job I've ever had in my life and I love it, and I'm changing lives every day and I can empathise with pretty much most things that come my way, because I've been. You know, a dark place is a dark place sometimes, and even it might not be the same dark place. If you've been in a dark place and trust me, when someone pees in you it's pretty dark.

Speaker 2: 26:24

When did the karate come in?

Speaker 1: 26:27

I started martial arts when I was about 10, did judo, jiu-jitsu, and then I found karate in my early 20s, very early 20s, and that was where I kind of find a passion that I really loved it and I wanted to stay with it. So I went up to Black Belt and then became an adult's class and a kid's class. I did a national competition, came third and stuff like that, and then I fell in love with boxing after that and I still box now.

Speaker 2: 26:53

I mean I like that and uh, and then I fell in love with boxing after that and I still box now. I mean I love, um, let's say, parallels between sport and business, or you know, sport and the and the real world. And something I've been I've been hearing a lot about lately because I'm on a bit of a mission for, uh, better onboarding and better training of of my, my sales team or staff in general back in dubai, and so I've been listening to quite a lot of books on training and repetition and repetition. And I'll probably butcher this like I do with most stories, but I think it was talking about, like Aikido master no Jiu-Jitsu.

Speaker 2: 27:24

And you know that the Jiu-Jitsu masters aren't, let's say, quite good at 10,000 different moves. They're absolutely fucking excellent at three or000 different moves. They're absolutely fucking excellent at three or four different moves that they practice time and time and time again, and that you know that people think that to be good at something they need to do all these different things and brush over it. But really you know there's one or two or three key skills that you just need to practice.

Speaker 1: 27:48

Well, Bruce Lee, didn't he? Bruce Lee said that he doesn't fear the man who can do 10,000 kicks. He fears the man who can do one kick 10,000 times.

Speaker 2: 27:56

Yes. So I guess, talking about that, can you relate that to your karate, to your boxing?

Speaker 1: 28:14

Have you got some line of conversation we can go down in terms of analogies and self-improvement? Well, I think you know every all of the above. If you think about um, if you want to be a successful person and you can have successful people that are unhealthy or don't except, but let's just they could be even more successful. If you ask me, discipline, structure, structure and vision, and to have a clear path to all of that, you need to eat properly, you need to take some time out for yourself. So a lot of people like especially business people they are constantly I've got time, I've got time, I've got time to. The world is still going to be there in 20 minutes. If you want to go and do a workout, you can do a good workout in 20 minutes, right, it's not, the world's not going to change. You'll be fine and you'll actually be better at your busy lifestyle and your job if you give yourself that time.

Speaker 1: 29:01

And then, if you've been a martial artist or a boxer or whatever discipline to a relatively decent level, not just, I went once when I was age six, I used to do karate. You know, I hear that all the time. If you actually do it, you can. Then everything has got a ripple effect into every area of your life, not just the business side, you know, even at home, with your relationships and your, you know, if you're a happier, more balanced person and I talk a lot about balance, don't I now um, if you've got a balanced state of mind, you can look at both sides of an argument and make a very good decision on what you consider to be the correct way. If you are, my way is the only way, and so do you like, because your, your mind's not balanced, you're used just one way then you're going to miss out on a lot of important information. That's going to push you forward, get the ego out of the way. That's what boxing and karate teach you as well, you know we talk about the kids a bit.

Speaker 2: 30:03

Um, I know you've you've written some children's books. I have. I mean, how did that come about?

Speaker 1: 30:09

well it was. It was in my head for a long time. I wanted to. I like personal development books and I like books like the Secret. Now, not a lot of people have issues with the Secret. For me, the Secret is just focus on what you want instead of what you don't want, and there's a lot of. It's very simple that book, and it changed my life, so the reason I talk about that is because it changed my life, so therefore, hopefully it could change someone else's. My other favourite one is the Essence of Success by Earl Nightingale. Now, all of these books are very obviously no kids are going to read these books and I wanted to try and create a fun, easy to understand way of delivering to children that positive mentality I can, things, you, the I can instead of the I can't and stuff like that. So it was in my mind a while and then I decided just to pick up my phone into my notes. Actually, I was writing on my phone and I was actually on the toilet at the time, funny enough.

Speaker 2: 31:08

All the best thinking happens there.

Speaker 1: 31:10

Ten minutes later because I was still sitting there, not because I needed to, I just was involved in this book writing. I'd finished basically the book and obviously I tweaked it over the next couple of months, but in general and it all just poured out of me and I've written poems since I was can remember I've written hundreds and hundreds of poems. Every time I do an event or a birthday, everyone knows I'm going to come out with a poem and so I like to write in rhyme. I find it much easier to write in rhyme, for some reason, than not in rhyme. So I wrote the first book and I'm going to say this but I think it's up there with all the bests. It's really good. It's very Gruffalo-esque.

Speaker 2: 31:51

What kind of age bracket all the?

Speaker 1: 31:52

bests. It's really good. It's very gruffalo-esque. What kind of age bracket? I always say two to eight year olds. Now you might say to yourself, well, that's a quite a wide.

Speaker 1: 31:59

Why would a two-year-old or an eight-year-old read the same book? But uh, the first one's called grumpy gorilla and happy hippo a positive tale for all to read, because even the parent or the grandparent or the sister or the brother that's reading it to the younger one will learn a lot from it. You'll learn from it. I read it out to one of my friends. He cried like he really hit him and um, it's, it's just a great book. And my three-year-old finishes because it's in rhyme. My three-year-old finishes this the the paragraphs off of me, so I'll read the first bit and then he'll read the second rhyme. It's only three, um, and and absolutely loves it, asked me nearly every night to read it to him. And I wrote another one called oh yes, I can.

Speaker 1: 32:40

And um, that was about a tiger and a panda, best friends and they and tigers. Scaredy cat wants to do stuff but doesn't have the confidence to do it. Panda she always goes for her dreams and just win, lose or draw. She's learned something it's how she teaches him how to go for his dreams and therefore step out of his comfort zone and um, and they go on this journey together and, uh, it's a very happy ending at the end. And sorry, the first one was also hippo and gorilla, two best friends. Gorilla's always grumpy, things go wrong for him all the time, always focuses on the worst case scenario, whereas happy Hippo complete opposite always thinks the best is going to happen and therefore he always lives the happier life. So he teaches his friend how to change his mentality to be more positive and therefore he gains up things. More opportunities come for him when he's looking in the right places and all done in little kids' books.

Speaker 2: 33:38

Do you find that you ever can or get to talk to kids, let's say away from the parents? I guess what I mean is how do you educate kids, or how can kids look at their health and fitness and mindset and well-being if the parents aren't already where? Where, ultimately, the kids should get to? You know, if you're, if you've got an unhealthy parent, how you're going to have a healthy kid. If you're, if you've got a depressed, poor mindset parent, how do you have a optimistic kid? I mean, do you, do you see both sides of the equation?

Speaker 1: 34:14

I do, and I speak to a lot of kids on Zooms with the parents, because when the parents come to my programme they ask me for help with the kids too. But unfortunately you have to rely on the parent to bring that. You can't go looking for kids. You'd be banged up, wouldn't you?

Speaker 2: 34:30

As I was saying the question I'm thinking how do you go looking for kids on your own?

Speaker 1: 34:34

you're right history repeats itself. You know it's no coincidence that parents that are in prison quite often so do the kids. And the drugs, and the drugs and the alcohol and the alcohol, you know. So, um, it's, I guess it's about educating the parents and hoping that that feeds through you. You can't go looking for kids. Schools probably need to do a lot more. Jamie Oliver tried to do a lot, didn't he with the school dinners and stuff like that, but it kind of seems to have fizzled out I think it did, but a lot of schools now champion themselves of having a good menu for the kids.

Speaker 1: 35:09

But I look at the menu and still I feel it's pretty iffy. But I can't remember what it was like before. So maybe I think he did his best, but I think it was less successful than he would have hoped.

Speaker 2: 35:25

It was my school dinners that made me become a vegetarian. 30 years ago Are you a veggie.

Speaker 2: 35:31

Well, I don't eat red meat, but literally, like I was 10, 10 or 11 at school and there was I don't know 250 people in the school, and I mean people talk about school dinners being bad. Now I mean, I mean I remember leaving school at 18, 19 thinking the school dinners actually weren't all that bad, but you know, in the late 80s, early 90s, they were absolutely fucking horrendous. And there was, I think, one vegetarian because being a vegetarian back in again in the late 80s, early 90s, was strange, was very unusual. And there's one veggie the school didn't want to cater for him. So, um, they just told him to bring a packed lunch. So he'd bring a packed lunch and we'd all be sat there eating these plastic sausages and disgusting shepherd's pie I'm getting palpitations thinking about to it and we'd be looking on at his packed lunch, salivating over his you know his flaffles, what do you call it? Like dairy leaf slice or you know. Whatever he's getting. Anyway, that was much, much nicer than what we got. And over the coming months some of the other kids would go to the parents and say do us a favour, just write me a letter to send my veggie so I can start bringing a packed lunch in and can avoid this crap. So the parents did.

Speaker 2: 36:35

I went back to my parents and said can you do me a favour, can you write me a letter to send my packed lunch? I'm a vegetarian so I can have a packed lunch. They said but you're not a veggie. I said I know, I know, but I can't eat that crap at school. Just do me a letter. And they said you know, this is not how you behave in the real world. You know, you've got to sometimes do things you don't like and it's just not happening. I said well, I'm a veggie. I need you to write me a letter. They said when have you become a veggie? I said now. So my dad says if you're a vegetarian for two weeks at home, then we'll believe you and you can be a veggie at school. I said you know, it's like the stubbornness in me. I'm going to stand on for this now. So I said find my veggie. So I started eating vegetarian at home and after two weeks I'd done it. So I said Dad, I've proven myself. Now, please, can you write me a letter to sell a veggie. So he wrote me the letter.

Speaker 2: 37:22

Honestly, the day I took the letter into school there was now so many vegetarians on this packed lunch table decided they were going to cater for them and I I didn't want to back down or lose face, so I uh stayed being a veggie, eating the, eating the vegetarian food at school. That was from being like 11. And then, when I became 16, um, because I didn't like, I had fish, but I didn't have any, uh, any meat whatsoever. And then when I was 16, we're on holiday in spain and there was this, um, uh, what you call it, uh, barbecue at the tennis club and they were making these unbelievable looking chickens and I decided to try some chicken.

Speaker 2: 37:57

And since 16, I've eaten poultry but just never had red meat, since Beef, pork, lamb, whatever don't have. And I think in today's world there's so many options it really doesn't matter. I mean, I could I always say if I had a personal chef, I could probably be a vegan, because some, some of the vegan food that's cooked you know, that's cooked and prepared, you know, by an expert chef is absolutely unbelievable.

Speaker 1: 38:19

Anyway, it's delicious but tend to not be very healthy.

Speaker 1: 38:22

Vegan unless you know, unless you know how to be. So just because it's got vegan on the pack, it doesn't mean it's healthier. In fact, it's usually worse. Because why I had well, they're different fats and salts and stuff to try and like think of vegan burger. You've got to make it taste like a burger. So there's a lot of fake stuff, a lot of fat and salt to try and create that flavor. I do love a vegan um. So so, yeah, you need to kind of know how to be vegan. Yeah, mate, I'm sorry because I was rushing out it was earlier this morning I forgot to bring my book. I'll send you one. I've got um. A sunday times best-selling book just came out um december, the Eat your Way to a Six Pack, and in there.

Speaker 1: 38:59

No abdominal exercises necessary, just eating 90% of your results come from the food. So you can train 100 times a week. If you don't sort the food out, your abs aren't going to show.

Speaker 2: 39:10

And obviously I said that in jest, but I guess the reality is that probably most of us have abs under there anyway.

Speaker 1: 39:16

You just need to be able to see them, you're using your abs all the time just to get up out of bed. If you knew how many sit-ups you probably did a day just getting in and out of upper seats and out of bed and walking to the car and getting in the car and out of the car. So most people have got a set of abs. It's just the fat's covering it. But yeah, I'll send you the book and in there you can adapt any of the recipes. I mean there's vegan recipes in there lots but you can adapt any of them. We have a like-for-like rule, which is if you don't like the well, you eat poultry now, right, anyways, it doesn't matter, but we don't have red meat either, so it's made for you.

Speaker 2: 39:54

Oh, none of the recipes.

Speaker 1: 39:55

So therefore you don't even have to worry about changing anything. But if you were vegan, you didn't like turkey. You can switch it for tofu, it's that easy. So, yeah, but vegan, yeah, it's quite a minefield really, and people think they see vegan on it, assume it's a healthy piece of food, but in general, mostly it's not.

Speaker 2: 40:21

Let's talk about some other. Let's say health misconceptions or misconceptions in fitness and nutrition. Then Spot reduction.

Speaker 1: 40:26

Yeah, you can't do it. There's no such thing. The only thing I can tell you is the bottom part of your tummy, going all the way around the tyre, the centre of gravity, that's going to be the last thing to go. You never see someone with a six-pack go from the bottom up, it'll be the top two, next two, next two when you're getting a six-pack. And, by the way, just going to talk about six-pack, the program's called the six-pack revolution. It's not really about getting a six-pack. My biggest demographic is 35 to 65 year old men and women, as I said, going from a size 18 dress to a 10 in one wave. No saggy skin, because we, most people are going to be more on my program as well. So we feed and nourish you to fat loss. We don't starve on our issue. So spot reduction um, you can't do it. You can't tell where the fat's coming off first, but I can probably tell you just where it's going to be lost what if?

Speaker 2: 41:14

what if you get something you can just never get rid of? I mean, do you get that like stubborn bits that would, even when you've got it in shape?

Speaker 1: 41:19

there's just something that will just never go well, it will probably go eventually, but it just depends how many years you want to put in into that. When I had an eight pack once, I still had love handles and I just had to accept. Where else am I? What am I doing, apart from going and getting cut off or sucked?

Speaker 2: 41:37

off. You didn't do a bit of life, though.

Speaker 1: 41:38

No, I didn't do it. It entered my head, but I didn't do it. It kind of would go against a little bit, probably, of what I preach, but it did enter my head, if I'm honest with you. Yeah, and another myth as well is, as I said to you earlier, this calorie deficit thing, the. So, as I said to you earlier, this calorie deficit thing, the best way to lose fat is on the most calories possible. Let me explain what I mean by that as well. So let's say your maintenance calories per day were 2,500. Let's just say you would lose more fat on 2,250 than you would on 1,000 calories Faster, more sustainable, healthier, obviously, and to your um, to your benefit of your whole body and mind, rather than now nourishing yourself at the 1000, very slow process of losing fat. So I can actually give you an anecdote, an example.

Speaker 2: 42:31

but but does it depend surely on what the calories are that you're eating, or or what, what exercise or something you're doing at the same time that you're eating it?

Speaker 1: 42:39

well, I'll, I'll, I'll go on both of those, right, let's. Let's tell you exactly what I mean. So we had a lady who, on the program she, before she came to six pack, was um, she did 850 calories a day for 365 days. She lost a stone in a month. The next 11 months she only lost two pound. Her hair fell out. She couldn't get out of bed. She couldn't remember what she was doing an hour before. She was having all sorts of medical problems. Parts of her were failing Obviously, her blood's all over. She basically was killing herself and wasn't losing the fat or the weight.

Speaker 1: 43:26

So even on the right food, 1,000 calories a day isn't enough. But on the 2,250, for example, or the 2,000, it doesn't really matter. There's a nice range you can sit between when it's the right food it's actually quite a lot of food actually and the right balance of food on the plate at the time, because that's important as well. You know you want to always have your balance of your proteins, your carbs and your fats every time time you eat, if you can. Now, I'm not saying that having a banana on its own is never going to happen again in the car, but if you wanted to be super perfect. You would add your Greek yogurt and your almonds to that banana. That would be a better, more balanced snack.

Speaker 2: 44:10

Better than just having the banana on its own.

Speaker 1: 44:12

Yeah, much better, because then you're balancing the snack. If you having the banana, yeah, yeah, much better, because then you're balancing the snack. If you imagine a set of scales, the old-fashioned ones, with the chain, the banana if you get a banana, you put it on. It's there, isn't it? So you want to balance it, so you want to put your protein and fats on the other side, for example and you can't just have them later no.

Speaker 1: 44:29

So let me explain that as well. This comes to the hormone thing now. So if I was going to have a bowl of rice at midday today, let's just say I would have an insulin spike and your body is supposed to spike, supposed to spike insulin every time you eat. That's normal, that's fine. What you don't want is these big lifts and crashes. You know, like when you have a a pizza, you feel great for two minutes and you want to go bed.

Speaker 1: 44:50

Yeah that's pizza last night, yeah well, you know that feeling you just they call it a food coma, don't they? Yeah, yeah, so we don't want that. So if I'd have had a palm-sized and thickness piece of chicken today at midday with my handful of rice that was stir-fried in a teaspoon of olive oil, when he spices ginger, garlic, squeeze, a lemon, whatever I want this isn't quite true, but this is just for the analogy purpose You'd have an interesting spike and a nice sort of straight line. It's not straight, but you get my point. And we don't have these big crashes like if you're having a deep pan pizza.

Speaker 1: 45:28

So what you eat at the time is important. If I'd have ate the rice on its own and the chicken later, for example, that's going to have a different reaction in my body and that's why and you'll get people on social media that you know oh, shut up, you plum. You probably know some of them that talk just calorie deficit, that's all that matters. I had a guy actually arguing with me that 900 calories of donuts is the same as 900 calories of fish and veg Actually, and he was a fitness professional arguing with me.

Speaker 2: 46:08

Actually threatened to come over from America and sort me out.

Speaker 1: 46:10

He doesn't know you're a karate expert. He didn't dive into that one too much, but it's like can you imagine that mentality is out there teaching others that want to live on doughnuts that it's okay and they're going to be fine? It's baffling, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 46:28

And I guess talking about bad things like doughnuts, all carbs and all fats are bad, no not at all.

Speaker 1: 46:36

The six-bar revolution is full of carbs, but we use nutritious carbohydrates and, as I said to you, it doesn't mean you can't ever have a donut again or a piece of chocolate or a pint of lager. But we need to reset the way that body and mind works. First, invest that little bit amount of time, then when you go and have that donut, you bat it off, and when you go and have that donut you bat it off.

Speaker 2: 46:56

And when you have it so obviously I presume you don't have the donut during the 75 days that happen after how do you pay for that donut? Do you just accept it and absorb it or do you go? I've just had a donut. I'm going to go and do an extra 5,000 steps.

Speaker 1: 47:09

You can't out-train the diet anyway, really I guess what I'm saying is you're already training.

Speaker 2: 47:14

Normally you're already eating good. This is just a little extra bit of naughtiness. It's a 300 calorie donut. Can you go and do 300 calories on the treadmill just to try and pay for it?

Speaker 1: 47:27

what I teach people is, as I say, you can party twice a week. So those other five days you are eating in balance, eating how the human body should be fed, gaining your credit for then you can. You can have these things and not worry about it. If you want to move forward, then you only party once a week. If you want to move forward slowly, if you want to move forward fast, we don't party. We do seven days a week. So the five and two situation is where your credit's in the five, so you can play with the two.

Speaker 2: 48:00

So that's how how you you kind of do that I know you've been uh, you've been a trainer of a few celebrities over the years as well. Is that because they've been on the six-pack revolution, or have you just you just trained them anyway?

Speaker 1: 48:13

um, yeah, yeah, they've found me through the programme lots actually. And actually Ryland was the other way round. Ryland came to me, tiny, like he was a skeleton almost. He was going through his divorce. He was very down, depressed. He'd been into an establishment to try and sort his head out and he was very malnourished. He's six foot four. He was like nine stone. He's a very tall guy. So I had to do the opposite of fat loss and I had to build him up, which we did. He had an amazing photo shoot and he looked like a hench at the end of it.

Speaker 2: 48:49

So have you got all kinds of different programmes on the thing? So for people, I mean, I mean, if people will be massive, you know, do you have very like heavy lifting type stuff on there as well? Or you, you a bit more, let's say, I don't know, middle of the road, but, um, you know, not not to any particular extreme, you know not, not a super athlete, not a big body, yeah, I've got.

Speaker 1: 49:09

I've got olympia. I've had olympia on my program. Alex scott uh, you know the footballerer. No, she's a presenter now. I've got loads of triathletes Ironmen, ultra Ironmen, marathon, ultra Marathon, and they would go into a specific group, like what we call the extreme group. And I also but don't forget, I'm live with everyone, so we bend with the wind. So I've had a guy on there and I've taken people, bodybuilders, into competition. But, um, the the program that you choose, even though you're in it, we still bend with the wind within it, because there's obviously going to be people that, um, have abilities, disabilities, they can't do this, they can't do that, so then we give them things they can do. Food-wise, I change thousands of people's food throughout the programme. That's why we keep an eye on everyone with the photographs. Some people lose all the fat they need to in the first half of the programme, so then I might switch them into one of the other groups and then we start building like that Do people, the people who are in the groups.

Speaker 2: 50:14

they get to see each other in the groups as well so they can make some fitness friends.

Speaker 1: 50:18

Yeah, we've had relationships and all sorts go on in that group. So, yeah, it's like a big community. We have about 100 people in a group. So right now I've got the best part of 70 groups running. We've got about 7,000 people in the programme as we speak. How much is it the program? Yeah, 149.

Speaker 2: 50:40

For the whole program? Yeah, and then what can people do?

Speaker 1: 50:44

thereafter. I teach them at the end, as I said, how to maintain, but I mean.

Speaker 2: 50:50

Young people come into more groups.

Speaker 1: 50:51

yeah, I've had people on their 14th six-pack.

Speaker 2: 50:55

Oh, okay, so you just keep paying for every 75 days, some just come once a year on a January wave just to do the New Year thing.

Speaker 1: 51:01

Some people live it, some people do one at the beginning and one at the end of the year and have all the summer off loving themselves. It's just whatever. Yeah, whatever people want to do.

Speaker 2: 51:12

Well listen, Scott, it's been a pleasure having you here um I am, I'm sorry we got to start late because that was my fault. No, don't worry. Don't worry, uh, but I you've almost, uh, almost, made me want to give up donuts. But I'm thinking maybe I will jump on your, on your 75 day challenge and maybe we can do a repeat podcast at some time in the future.

Speaker 1: 51:30

I can take my shirt off, I'll turn you into Wolverine in 75 days.

Speaker 2: 51:33

But listen, listen just before you go. Give yourself a proper shout-out in terms of Insta names, websites and stuff where people can go and find and get signed up.

Speaker 1: 51:43

Okay, so you can go onto the website wwwthesixpackrevolutioncom. Don't forget thesixpackrevolutioncom. Six is in the number six. No S-I-X and the Instagram handle's at the Six Pack Revolution, or just type it into Google. You can't miss us. It's everywhere and thank you for having me.

Speaker 2: 52:03

Matt, thanks a lot for being here. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1: 52:05

Thank you, Cheers mate.

Speaker 2: 52:06

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