Where Is King David Now? Prophecy, Poetry, And The Covenant Explored

Today, I am joined by David Richards—a Marine veteran, author, and deep theological thinker—to explore the complexities of King David’s story in scripture and its profound implications on modern faith. We dive into the controversial legacy of King David, dissecting his triumphs, his sins, and the prophetic implications of the Davidic Covenant. The discussion highlights how David’s life reflects the tension between divine promise and human failure, challenging us to examine what redemption and grace really mean.

David Richards shares his powerful personal journey, including a near-death experience in childhood that sparked his early awareness of the soul, as well as a military career shaped by global travel, combat experience, and poetic expression. We get into masculinity and emotional expression, connecting the biblical examples of King David and Solomon to the modern man’s struggle to embrace vulnerability and creativity—particularly through poetry and faith.

We then get into a riveting discussion of biblical prophecy, Jesus’ genealogy, quantum theology, and the mystery of David’s salvation. Mr. Richards draws parallels between ancient scripture and modern psychological and philosophical frameworks, asking us to reflect on their own spiritual paths. He also shares about his books, as well as the role of Norse mythology in the Holocaust.

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Transcript

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode, A couple of nukes. As always, I'm
your host, Mr. Whiskey, and you might be able to hear that. Uh, when I walked outside this
morning, my front porch was green and yellow with pollen and I have just, uh, the, the nose
and voice have just gotten stuffed up.
Eyes are puffy and, uh, it's great. It's the first day of spring as we're recording this. And, um,
spring welcomed us with a wave of pollen. So that was exciting. Uh, saw a lot of pink and
purple flowers growing, which is beautiful. But, uh, not a fan of all the pollen. I was out there
with a broom today, so, well, we're gonna still have a gray episode today.
I'm excited for this, whether you're faith-based or not, I definitely want you to tune in. I think
this is gonna be very insightful for both parties, um, and even just the fact that, as we've
discussed on the show. Most people who believe in God or believe in Christ, most of them
have never read the Bible.
Uh, they only know bits and pieces of the stories that are popular among children's books or,
you know, sermons. So we're gonna get into it. Today, we're gonna be focusing on King
David. Obviously, everyone knows about him at least a little bit. One of the most
controversial figures in the Bible, in my opinion, a lot of people believe that King David got
off too easy and makes them mad.
Uh, there's a lot of parenting lessons that we see with the, uh, the consequences that went
into his family and that, so there's a lot of hate for King David, but there's a lot of love of man
after God's own heart and God loved him. And so there's a lot of stories about forgiveness.
And my favorite part personally is human justification.
The idea that if I, in David's case, indirectly kill this man, I'm not sinning. And obviously later
on he feels remorse for it. But we had this idea that if we. We like to try and get away with
sin as much as possible. For example, maybe it's, um, oh, I'm only, you know, I'm not having
full on vaginal sex. I'm only doing something so it, it doesn't count as lust or as sexual
immorality, or I'm only drinking, you know this much and you know, I'm, or I'm only drunk, you
know, on holiday, so it doesn't count as drunk and foolery.
So we're gonna get into that human behavior and culture today with David Richards. We are
here with, not King David, but a David who's gonna talk about King David, and I'm excited for
it. So, Mr. Richards, thank you for sitting patiently through that long intro and, uh, love to
hear a little bit about you. Mr.
Whiskey, it's a pleasure to speak with you. Um, you were not the only one affected by Pollen
today. We started to see the, uh, the Yellow Mist descend on all our vehicles here in North
Carolina as well. So, uh, I grew up. My name is David Richards. I grew up in the military. My dad was in the Marines for 31 years.
So, uh, I moved around and lived on lots of military bases and sometimes out in civilian world. Spent a few years in Japan. Did my undergrad at Penn State in English, and then joined the Marines because I wasn't sure what the civilian world was going to be like. So I kind of followed in my dad's footsteps.
Uh, served in combat in Somalia back in the early nineties, and then decided that I wanted to do something different. So I got outta the Marines in 2006, went to work at Cisco, the giant IT company. At the same time fell in love with yoga, which. It wasn't part of my plan, but it just, yeah. Happened. Uh, and then kind of realized that I could go back to something that I had dreamed about in childhood and that was writing.
So I published my fi rst book, whiskey and Yoga in 2017, and, uh, published three books, another one's coming out this summer. And yeah, just kind of went on a journey of faith that took me through most of my life to get into the pandemic and then really kind of get to the heart of what I believed. I'm gonna have to write a book, whiskey, goats, and yoga, you know?
There you go. There we go. Yeah, you gotta do it. Gotta do it. Yeah. I like that. Doug was gonna say, um, it's funny, a lot of people have told me that, you know, Mr. Whiskey would be better for your mental health if you stopped calling it the civilian world and civilians and civilian attire. But I don't know. I think it's funny and it is just, you know, as I say, once a marine, always a Marine, and it's like so true.
So true. And we agree. And you're service member, so you'll, you'll understand. Um. Even post service, even when you go back into the civilian world, you, there's just a piece of you forever change. You know, like it's, you really are different. You have a different perspective. And we'll get right into that because you talk about growing up in Japan.
Yeah. As, as we call it a military brat or a, a dependent, you know, yes. Military brat. Obviously that is a very different childhood because not only is it culturally different, but you had that layer of military on top of it. Uh, being in a country. Did you grow up speaking Japanese English? How was that whole dynamic?
No, so it ended up, we were only there for three years, so I, we were there from fi fth grade through, through seventh grade. And, uh, I mean, that was kind of a cool time to be in a foreign country to discover a foreign country. So, you know, at 10 years old. There's only one English channel, you know, American English television channel.
Um, couldn't speak, uh, just learned a smattering of Japanese, but the culture was so different and it was wild because now you're the minority in a country and that's a very interesting experience. At the same time, just the eastern philosophy and eastern culture, how they celebrated the temples they had, um, how they honored their dead through the festivals they had.
It was such a different experience. So, you know, my parents and, uh, really made sure that my brother and I had the chance not only to get exposure to Japan, but we went to the Philippines a couple times. We went to South Korea a couple times, and that had a huge impression on me because it was such a different experience.
And then coming back to the States and going to a military school here in North Carolina, you realize that I. I am like point something of a percent of people who've had that experience by the time you're 13 or 14 years old. Right. And 9 99 0.5% of the rest of my classmates had never been outside the country at that point.
So it was really different experience and it was unsettling for me in terms of also appreciating that that experience had changed me just because I found, I, I found a deep appreciation for like the Samurai. I kind of had this romance with the Samurai history of Japan and, and also just appreciated the, the strength of their beauty, kind of the emphasis on beauty and their culture was something that was so different from kind of American culture.
Yeah, that's defi nitely the truth. And uh, it was the best time to be there because you were a kid, so your parents were paying for everything. You know, I'm going on a trip to Japan, I'm going on a trip to Japan, and I'm like, I wish someone was paying for everything because, you know, and, uh, it's a little more expensive.
Yeah, defi nitely. But that's such an interesting experience and I, I want to elaborate on as well, I know from just reading through your bio online that speaking of your youth, you had a near death experience. And when I read it, I, you know, I was taken aback, you know, it's such a strange, I'll call it strange, just such a, um, an event you wouldn't imagine, you know, anyone who's a parent, you wouldn't imagine this happening to your kid and anyone who was a kid, you wouldn't imagine this happening to you.
So could you please tell us about that? Yeah. So, um, when you grow up on military bases, it's a very different environment. Yeah. And what I mean by that is everyone's mom or dad is in the Marines, and so I. It's very safe. Like there's not a lot of crime on base. Yeah. It's got its own gymnasium. It's got its own schools.
So it's, it's kind of, its enclosed little universe. When we were in, when I was in kindergarten, we lived out in town. So we lived in the civilian world and it was so different. We lived outside of College Park, Maryland, in the little, a little town called Hyattsville. And it was so different because everyone, the houses were all different, like on base.
All the houses, the military houses were the same basically. And my dad was the only person who was in the military, in our neighborhood. And this was right at the end of the Vietnam War. So there wasn't necessarily a great feeling about people in the military. And um, my best friend was this kid named Danny, and he lived up the block from me.
And he had an older brother who was three years his, uh, senior. And my brother is three years older than me. So we were all good friends. And then they had another older brother, David, who was 12 when, uh, when I was six. And Danny used to get really mad, like he would just, we called him a spazz. He would spazz out and you could never really tell what was gonna set him off.
He would just go into these like kind of little fi ts of rage. Yeah. And if you're an adult and you see a fi ve or 6-year-old doing that, it's not a big deal. But when you're fi ve or six, like, I felt sorry for him because sometimes his brothers would have to like hold him down. That's how angry he used to get.
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So one day, uh, this is well before the age of helicopter parenting. We were, we were in some stranger's backyard, so we'd gone. Up to Danny's house. It was the fi ve of us. So my brother and then his two brothers, and then we'd gone further up the street from where they lived and just wandered into some stranger's backyard and there was construction in the backyard and I guess there was a hammer lying on the ground.
And so we're just playing around. I don't know what we were doing. And at some point, Danny's oldest brother David said, it's time to go home for dinner. And Danny didn't like that. And so his face just got red and his eyes bulged out of his head and his, both his brothers started approaching him the way you might a rabid dog.
Like just really cautiously. Yeah. Yeah. And he kind of just looked around. He picked up the hammer and everyone's like, run. And so we all turned to run and he threw the hammer as hard as he could and it hit me in the back of the head and I was out and. What happened next was a memory that I put out of my head until the pandemic and during the pandemic I kind of underwent my dark night of the soul experience.
And I remembered that after I got hit by the hammer. I remember seeing his brother carrying my body down to their house and he was fl anked by my brother and his other brother, and they weren't running, they were just kind of walking, and I was about 15 feet back behind them and I could just see this very dim silhouette of what was going on and I couldn't get back into my body.
And then the next memory I have of being conscious was I woke up, I'm at home, I've got a bandage around my head. Danny's there with his mother. He's been bawling his eyes out, and he gave me a coloring book for this TV show back then called The Land of the Lost, which. Interesting title for a coloring book at the time.
But, um, yeah. And so I kind of put the episode out of my head at six because how can you process a near death experience when you're six years old? It just, it doesn't compute, right? And then when the ex, when I, then I revisited the memory during the pandemic and I remembered, oh my gosh, I watched him carry my body and I was outside my body.
What does that say? Where was I? Um, and so in some ways I actually, I hadn't spoken to Danny for probably 45 years, and I got ahold of him in January of this year. And I said, you actually kind of started me in my journey to faith because I realized once I had that out-of-body experience, I understood that there is a soul, even though I didn't recognize it at the time.
Um, but yeah, it was, it was a pretty wild experience. And when it, after it happened, I remember I just tried to tell my classmates, I'm like, I'm fi ne. The doctor said the hammer missed my brain. So like, I'm still the same person, but in truth, you know, obviously there's no telling what I had lost when I got hit in the back of the head.
Yeah. I can't imagine if I was a parent and, and that kind of thing happened to my kid. And I mean, uh, I mean, yeah. That's just so concerning to think. Yeah, I would never want to hear that. I would never want to, you know, they, they, you have a bunch of kids bringing, you know, my son in the back of it. I assume you were bleeding out the back of your head.
Yeah. Yep. You know, so, and worrying if you had brain damage, if it was permanent Oh yeah. Damage like hundred percent. So, you know, and I like you're saying, sometimes you wanna like, Hmm, would I be smarter right now if I hadn't, you know? Yeah. Well, and, and, and what, I don't know that it changed because of it, but I know I became more temperamental.
I became more kind of antagonistic with my dad. I. And, and then not that I could have determined at that early age, but through most of school and high school, I had trouble
concentrating. Like, I, like creatively. My imagination was wild. I mean, I could, I could write, I got stuff published when I was in high school.
My poetry won contest. I was, I could draw, but when it came to like the math and sciences, I struggled to pay attention, um, until I got into college. And then I started to adult a little more seriously. So I don't know if that was a cause and effect because of what happened with the hammer, but I certainly, when I looked back, I'm like, I wonder if that was caused by this.
So, yeah. Yeah. I mean, a a a good excuse, you know, if you're ever in like an awkward situation dating, you're like, well, you don't understand. I got. You know, the, the, the, the common sense part of my head got hit with a hammer, so. Right, right. It's an excuse, it's an alibi. I'm sorry I didn't bring you fl owers this Valentine's Day.
Yeah, no, but I was gonna say, uh, that's why you say you mark, as I have fl areups, you know, I have fl a up, so Yes. But, uh, yes, Danny had fl areups. Yeah. You said, if I'm tracking correctly, his brother's name was David as well. His oldest brother was named David too. Yep. So, so we're just gonna call this episode the David Show.
We got that David, David, we got David Richards, king David. We got King David. Yeah. We got, uh, a lot of David's here and uh, that was on the list of possible names that my dad wanted to name me. So defi nitely, uh, interesting. Yeah, I'm not David Whiskey. I, I could've been in I alternative, you know, in a different life, but yeah.
So that experience you had, the cultural experience and then moving past that, the military experience, like you said, you yourself were a Marine, so how long were you in for and you know, what did you do while you were in? I did 15 years and I was started out in artillery. So when I went to Somalia, I was an artillery.
And when I got back, uh, I kind of started to think about, I'm not sure what I would do in the regular world. If I have an artillery background, like I'm gonna, gonna blow stuff up out in civilian world doesn't make sense. So after about fi ve years, I switched into communications because that's what my dad had done and I kind of was tracking his blueprint for life was my blueprint.
I'm like, okay, he did 31 years. I'll do 31 years, then I'll do 12 years in the civilian world and retire and fade off into the sunset. Um, and at the same time I married and divorced and, and part of it was when you grow up in the military and you're moving every two or three years, it's a very disjointed life because you're making, this is obviously well before text, but texting, no email.
So you become really good friends with people and then you say goodbye to them and you're not going to see them. You're not going to see them again. And so as I grew older, especially coming back from Japan because I had such, such a great friend in Japan, we both love comic books. We love Star Wars, we love to draw.
We played soccer. I mean, just kind of the, like I could see if we had been in another life, we would've been best friends for life. Yeah. And kind of like, and, and then when we came back from Japan, his parents went to Virginia and mine went to North Carolina. And that point my teenage angst started to set in and I started to direct that anger at my dad because I realized as miserable as I am, making myself from losing friendships because of moving, you're the reason we're moving.
And so that developed this antagonism. And initially I didn't want to do the military. Like I wanted to write or I wanted to go like produce Hollywood movies or you know, write screenplays or something. But also when you're in the military, you don't know. What the rest of the world was like, especially before the age of the internet where everything became so connected.
So when I joined the military, it was, I still had that same kind of predilection. Okay. Okay. Now, even though I didn't like the military growing up, now I'm doing what I didn't like professionally and I'm living in two to three year increments where I move every two or three years. And so when you get in that mindset, you realize if I'm going to marry someone, whereas if you're in civilian life and you grew up in the same town, or you meet someone at college Yeah.
And you're gonna sell the same place, it's a very kind of stable life in the military. You know, I met my ex-wife in San Diego and when we met, I had about a year and a half left before I was gonna move somewhere else. And so I. My thought process is, well, how quickly can I get this relationship stabilized?
So she's going to be willing to pick up her life and move with me. Not a great way to engineer a relationship as I, as I soon found out. Um, so as I kind of went through my career, I got around the 10 year mark and I started writing poetry again because it was just, I had, I met someone and they inspired my creative juices, and so I started writing poetry and.
That was exciting. 'cause I was like, ah, this, like, this is part of me that I let go of for 10 years. At the same time. The Marines, that's a weird thing. And they're like, are you gay? Like you're writing poetry and marine offi cers don't do that. I'm like, I'm not sure what that one has to do with the other.
Um, and I start to realize then, okay, maybe there's something else that I should be considering. Especially when it comes to having a stable life. It's very hard for, at least for me to have a stable life when I've moved my entire life every two or three years. Um, that being said, the military was an incredible experience.
I mean, I was in Somalia, I went to Italy, I went to Vietnam, I went to France. I went to, you know, traveled all over the world and had different experiences. I got two master's degrees. And the brotherhood that you establish in the military is unlike anything else in the world because you spend sometimes I.
You know, hours on end, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. You know, we're in Somalia for two months and I was with the same people for those two months doing everything together. And yeah. That, that kind of bond, you don't fi nd that necessarily in civilian life because there's no need for it. Yeah, for sure.
And he reminded me of, it's, it's an interesting thing with the military as far as careers, because Richard Walsh, former Marine, when he came on the show, talked about his job in the Marines was balling up airplanes. He said he got out, I. There, there, there was not a line of people saying, Hey, we need you to blow up some airplane.
You know? Right, right. Yeah. You know, this was like 1980s or something, so he ended up getting a job swing in a pickax for $5 an hour. Uh, wow. You know? 'cause he said that. Wow. He goes there, there was no, there wasn't even like a security spot for it at that time. 'cause it was before the whole anti-terrorism and all that stuff.
Yeah. And even then, it's like, how many, you know, rocket launching, you know, former Marines do you need out there? So totally get it as an artillery man, like what are you gonna do? But as far as the poetry, so I'm also a poet, a man who writes poetry and during the military I wrote plenty of stuff inspired by it and you know, same kind of thing.
It's like, you know, poetry is gay or is feminine or this that. Right. What's interesting though is if you look at the Bible, two of the most powerful men in the entire Bible, king Solomon and King David, they were poets, you know, nice. You can say the song of songs or, or the Psalms, I mean. You could say there, there is Hebrew poetry.
In fact, the whole book of job is Hebrew poetry. So, you know, it's interesting how people have made it. Poetry is just a writing style, so why is it so genderized? You know? Because you wouldn't say if, if you had said, oh, I'm writing a screenplay, or I'm writing a movie script, or I'm writing an action novel, suddenly now you're a man again.
You know? It's like why does your physical structure, the grammatical structure matter so much, you know? Well, and part of that, I think, especially in American culture is, you know, so I grew up with like Clint Eastwood, John Wayne. Chuck Bronson, Chuck Norris, these kind of like macho men. Paul Newman, Robert Redford.
And there was this iconic fi gure of what masculinity was in the United States, and the best embodiment of that was Hollywood. And then it transitioned to like Tom Cruise and Top Gun or these, you know, even Keanu Reeves to an extent. And you still had this Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know, Sylvester Stallone, you had this machismo.
And for a lot of people that became the aspirational alpha male, this really strong buff, you know, enormous person. Yeah. And in some ways, I think, especially in the military culture, that persists to a little bit because there is a one, because it's a very tough culture. I mean, even in, especially in the Marines.
Compared with in general, compared with the other services. The Marines are the most intense. When you get to like Navy Seals or Delta Force, then you, yeah, yeah. To another levels of intensity. But that level of intensity fosters a kind of bravado, and so you're always kind of almost trying to one up each other in terms of like toughness.
And then you come along and you start writing poetry and people are like, you're not supposed to do that. Like, that's, you're breaking some sort of rule in, in some ways it's kinda this weird thing, and yet you're right. Biblically speaking, it's, you know, it's a, it's a. It's a resource. I mean, and the Psalms are loaded with incredible insights, both beautiful and somewhat torturous in terms of being saved from the pit or some of the things that King David's write.
You know, he prophesied, you stole the, you stole the line. I was about to say, I was gonna say the dark Miy pit. You said the exact, yeah. Out of all the Psalms you said the exact same line that I was gonna reference. I mean, there's, there's over a hundred of them, and you referenced the exact one. Well, it's cryptic.
I mean, he prophesized Christ crucifi xion 600 years before the Romans invent crucifi xion as a form of torture. And that's, and that's, and he does it in the fi rst person, which is really, I mean, you think about, as a writer, I've thought about when I've created characters or when I've created stories, you kind of have to, you have to put yourself into the story to make it feel real.
I mean, it's kind of like acting. Just in a written form and you don't wanna be crucifi ed. Yeah. Well, and that's, but so when you, like, you couldn't put yourself, what would, what would compel King David to write? They pierce my hands and my feet. Like obviously he's speaking under the spirit of the Lord, but at the same time, he has to take himself to that experience.
Like he is. It's not like if you look at, you know, the prophets, Isaiah. His writings about the Messiah are third person. Like we will be given, you know, this everlasting father, you know, mighty prince, all these things, right? But he's saying about he will be called the Psalms that David writes are, they pierce my hands and my feet and it's like, that's intense.
Like as an author I can appreciate there's an intensity to that. And you also appreciate, well heavy is the head that wears the crown. Like especially when you understand the the covenant, which I think we're gonna talk about here shortly. The Davidic Covenant that binds Christ and King David for eternity.
Like that is an eternal promise of an everlasting kingdom and an eternal throne. And when David sleeps with Bathsheba and breaks the covenant. There's hell to pay for David, and that's kind of the house divided that cannot stand. So, yeah. Um, so getting back into the military, so the, the poetry thing was, it was a wake up call for me in the sense that I didn't want to deny the creative part of me anymore.
Yeah. And as I made my way through my career, I start to realize, well, I, I also am tremendously curious what life is like outside of the military because I've, you know, by the time I got out, I'd been in the military for 36 years, essentially between growing up in the military and then serving. And I wanted to see what was on the other side.
Well, I think it really goes back to the, with that mantra mindset, which we still see nowadays, not as much has been broken down a lot. Yeah. Too much now it's gone too far. But we've seen that that mantra mindset was, men don't. Talk or share about their emotions. They don't express their emotions and uh, poetry has always been very expressive, you know?
Whereas if you were writing fi ction, if you were, you know, 'cause there's plenty of famous, you know Sure. Authors who are men who have put forward, you know, no one said that like Michael Bay was feminine for making, you know, for helping produce transformers or, you know that. Right, right. Nicholas Sparks was a woman 'cause he wrote some of the best romance novels of all time.
Right. I think because poetry is so, like you said, that fi rst person, for the most part, coming from that emotional perspective, it's that expressive emotional side of it that is considered more feminine or less masculine. So defi nitely an interesting perspective. But yeah, again, we see those biblical characters are writers, they are poets.
Yeah. And what I want to address is, yeah, we talk about, I mean, it's just insane. I think, I don't know if it was on, on, on the show or in my book, but I was talking about how. It is just so insane how cruel humanity has been. When you look at old torture ways or old ways of killing people, it's like, how do you even think of that?
You know, why, why would you even think of that? It's just so cruel. And I don't know if the, the devil hasn't had any infl uence to that, or if it's just the, the, the sad, cruel nature of humanity after the fall. But it's just like crucifi xion or what they were doing in the Book of Daniel. I mean, you're gonna throw people in a, in a I I've always been just, they said the furnace was so hot that it killed the guards who were trying to put them in.
I mean, that's, it's, it's just insane that they would do that to people. And you know, even, even King Solomon's when he says, cut the baby in half, you know? Right, right. And obviously he, he did it to make a great point. Yeah. But, um, there were people back then who would. I mean, we've seen wicked women in the Bible who burned babies and children alive for, for, I don't remember which false God it was, whether it was dayon or bile or ashtor.
But those pagan practices, or even just well after biblical times, even like dark ages, you see some of that stuff during the day and ages of nights. Just that cruel torture. I mean, even just being out in the stocks all day and having birds start to eat away at you, the whole, I mean, and that's why like the movie, the Passion of Christ, you see visually that they've got these weapons, you know, whipping him with spikes and ripping his fl esh off.
Yep. And in some Greek translations of the Bible, the Greek word doesn't say by his stripes we are here, it says by stripe. They say that his back was so torn open that it was just the whole back was just all ripped open, which means it would be a single stripe in Greek compared to the plural. Um, stripes, so to, to peel a whole man's back off.
We're almost there. I mean, it's just cruel. And we're gonna get into some of, like you mentioned, sin with sexual immorality and the consequences of it and just sin in general, breaking covenant. And one, one of my favorite Bible verses to paraphrase is, you know, do not swear any oaths for only God can actually fulfi ll.
He, God is the only person who can truly fulfi ll a promise to a T And I think that's such an important Bible quote to remember. Yeah. We have people every day, as you and I are
speaking right now, hundreds of people just made promises to, to others that they're gonna break. So, but I'll pass it over to you to just kind of explain to everyone right now, we've mentioned King David a whole bunch.
What exactly are we gonna be diving into right now? Yeah, so what's important to understand about King David is the Davidic Covenant. And the Davidic covenant is found in Second Samuel. And it basically says it's a promise that, uh, the prophet Nathan relays to David. It says that you are going to be made the one of the greatest names in all of human history because I'm going to give you a dynasty of kings.
Your throne will last forever and your offspring will establish the everlasting kingdom. And David is overcome with gratitude and joy, and he is like, oh Lord, I can't believe you're making this promise to a human. This is awesome. And then one day he's on his, uh, roof and he sees Bathsheba and sleeps with her, and then tries to get her husband to sleep with her to cover up his crime.
That doesn't work. So we sent her to battle to get him killed. And then Nathan comes back and is like, Hey, what would you do if someone took a person's sheep when they had all these sheep? And David's like, oh, curse the man four times. Who does this? And. Nathan's like, dude, you are that man. You are that man.
And, and so David realizes, oh no, that's not good. And that's the where he turns your, your house will, you know, live by the sword and you've turned your house against you. And we see that there are four crimes that follow onto that. So then fast forward, wow, that fast forward. So you look at the Psalms and not only does David prophesy crucifi xion betrayal by Judas casting of lots for the clothes, no broken bones, but he also writes some very tortured psalms.
He writes, he says, I am greatly affl icted and in my distress, I said, everyone is a liar. So what is that? He is now basically mandating universal salvation because he calls everyone a liar. And when you put that in the context of the Davidic Covenant, where now his offspring meaning Christ is going to establish the everlasting kingdom and the eternal throne.
What has David done? Has he just turned his house against him with Absalom and what happens within his family, or has he turned it against him because of now Christ's role as the Messiah? And when you fast forward now into the New Testament, there are almost two dozen references to Jesus being the Son of David.
And there's a really fascinating verse that's repeated three times in the Bible, once in the Psalms, once when David is, or when Jesus is speaking to the Pharisees, and then once in
the Book of Acts, and it's the Lord said to my Lord, sit at my right hand while I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.
So David writes that. Then Jesus is talking to the Pharisees. He says, whose son is the Messiah? And they say, David, they say, well, how can that be if David. Speaking through the spirit of the Lord says to the Messiah, sit at my right hand while I make your enemies a footstool for your feet. If David calls the Messiah, my Lord, how can he be his son?
The Pharisees can't answer, Hmm. What's most compelling? And I think the big aha, and every time I talk to a believer, they're not aware of this. It's, it's, it's profound to me that how this is overlooked for its signifi cance when you understand the, the binding nature of the Davidic covenant and what it means that a human being has been promised an everlasting kingdom, even though he breaks the promise made to him through his, through his sin.
So in the Book of Acts, we fi nd out David does not ascend to heaven. It's Acts 2 34, and I think it's Luke who says, for David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said, the Lord said to my Lord, said in my right hand while I make your enemies foot stool for your feet. So if Christ ascends to heaven after his resurrection and David is not, does not ascend to heaven, where is David?
Well, he's still on earth, technically or in hell because of all the verses about being saved from the pit. And because he has now contrasted himself by breaking this covenant, now we start to see why he says all these things about being saved from the pit. You get to the end of the Bible in the book of Revelation, Jesus says, I hold the key to David.
Well, what is the key to David? The last, one of the last things Jesus says on the last page of the Bible is, I am the root and the offspring of David. Meaning I am the beginning of David and the end of David. Mm-hmm. And so if you look at that and you say, well, wait a minute, David's a human. Yet this promise of an everlasting kingdom is made to him.
Jesus is called the son of David. Even when Mary fi nds out she's pregnant, Gabriel says to her, your son will be called son of the most high, and he'll be given the throne of his father, David. Well, if David doesn't ascend to heaven, then what happens to him? And how is that relationship reconciled if Jesus, after his resurrection states, I have been given all authority over heaven and on earth?
Because what you're saying now is the dynasty of kings. Jesus is ascending to the throne with his resurrection. What does that mean for David? And that's what I explore in my, my book that came out, uh, in 2022 and then the next book that's coming out later this year. Yeah. And you know it well. The, the New Testament starts with the genealogy of Right, you
know, king David to Jesus, both bloodlines cursed and not cursed to expl to show how God did not contradict.
'cause obviously a lot of people wanna say, well, this part of the Bible contradicts itself, but we fi nd out that God has already thought of what you're gonna try to think of. So the big question I have for you that we're all wondering about is, all right, Mr. Richards, we hear you loud and clear. Where, where is David?
How's he going to get to heaven? If he does, and what, but, but what, what does this do with me? What does that have to do with Mr. Whiskey walking his dog on, on Tuesday afternoon? You know, what does this mean for us and our salvation? So my, in the book that I have coming out, uh, May 29th this year, I look at if David is a human being and Jesus is the root and the offspring of David, then.
At some point in human history, David must some consciousness called King David must recognize Jesus as his root and his offspring, and if that's the path for salvation, we know no one comes to the Father except through Christ. If that's the path for David, and David gets the second most publicity outta the Bible, right?
There's Jesus, then there's David. Yeah. Then you know, it drops off below that. But if David's path towards salvation and being saved from the pit is recognizing Jesus as his root and his offspring, is that the path towards human salvation? Is our path that we must also accept Jesus as our root and our offspring, as the be, as the Alpha and the Omega.
Right? Because that's, I mean, that's really what we're talking about. Mm-hmm. And when you look at it from that lens, it becomes a much more compelling vision on, well, this is how, you know, I, I think Mr. Whiskey, that there is a, a proclivity among people today to think that I'm gonna die and then I'm gonna get to heaven and I'm just gonna be conscious and you know, Jesus is gonna be on the throne and it's gonna be awesome because I'm in front of my salvation and then I fi nd out if I make it or not.
That was kind of like, that was kind of my childhood upbringing and what the, the gates through heaven were. And what I've come to appreciate is Jesus lays out kind of specifi c terms in terms of what the ascent looks like. Like no one comes to the father except through me. I and the father are one. If you've seen me, you've seen the father.
And then at some point he says, in different capacities, I am in the father. You are in me. I am in you. You are in me, and you get to this place. Well, it's not an external journey. If the kingdom of God is within you, it's an internal journey. If we all share the mind of Christ, that's an internal journey.
And how do you consciously wake up that mind within you so that you awaken to the what is not? You don't hear this a lot in church, but what other people call the Christ consciousness, right? If we all share the mind of Christ, you have to start to ask yourself, well, is that a conditional mind based on your adherence to dogma?
Or is it a universal mind because Christ really has authority over heaven, on earth, and then it's up incumbent upon me to see his light in all the world. Not to say that there aren't evil people or people doing bad things. But if I can see his light in all the world, what does that say about me as a believer?
If I, in other words, if I am looking at someone and saying to kind of get it back to what does it mean for you when you're walking your dog? If I look at someone and say, oh, well they're Jewish and they don't believe in Jesus, therefore I am judging them for their lack of belief. That says something about me.
If I on the other hand say, well wait, I know Jews believe in the Messiah. They just believe that Messiah comes from the house of David. Well that's a very different thing than the saying they don't believe in Jesus. But what does it mean for them? And part of what, part of what my research has shown, there was a, there was a book series that came out, um, about 20 years ago called The Left Behind Series.
And it was written by two, um, pastors. And it's about the rapture occurs and like people will get taken to heaven and everybody's left behind has to deal with the antichrist. This guy Nicholas Carpathian, I think out of Europe. Um. Then the last book, the 12th book of the series, king David's resurrected and goes on to lead the world back to, you know, basically connects heaven and earth.
And so I thought, well, there's multiple. I think Jeremiah 39 is one reference where it says, I, you know, God says, I will raise David up, David will be my servant, and I'll raise him up. And so you start to think, well, I've gone to church plenty of times and said, I believe in the resurrection of the body and the life everlasting.
Well, that in and of itself seems like a conscious activity, right? Like to believe in the resurrection of the body, you have to, like I know Mel Gibson has a passion of the Christ Sequel coming out, I think next year. And it's supposed to be Jesus' harrowing of hell, the three days he's in the tomb. Nice. We all kind of have that harrowing, we have to go through and it's, it's through our internal alignments and focus in on Jesus that we consciously make that a sense.
And for me, when I look at David's story, it's the idea that the, the realization of Christ's supremacy in the heavenly realm is a conscious event, right? It's not like, like, like I said earlier, I, I used to have this idea that I die, I get to heaven, I'm on the throne, you know, I see Jesus on the throne and I fi nd out, oh, you know, it's kind like you didn't make it.
Sorry, you gotta go the other place. Or, Hey, congratulations, you get VIP access, right? And it doesn't make sense to me because there has to be, Jesus kind of spells out a path, and you have to look at that path through the context of King David because of the covenant and the binding promise that that covenant creates between King David and Jesus Christ.
So hopefully that answers your question. Yeah, for sure. You know, I, I, so the, I know that's your, you talking about becoming one of Christ, the lessons of King David coming out later this year. Yep. And then you also have Love Letters to the Virgin Mary, the resurrection of King David. Is this a part one, part two kind of thing, or is this both different, similar, like, so what's, yeah, two books, I guess is my question.
So Love Letters to the Virgin Mary was, I kind of looked at this left behind idea that King David would be resurrected. And I said, well, what would prompt King David to be resurrected? And part of it was the idea, well, if there's, there's, there was a great book that came out a few years back by this author.
It's a really. Deeply philosophical and thought out book called that All Shall Be Saved. David Bentley Hart is the author and he makes the case in a very kind of academic way that Christ's salvation must be universal. Like Christ's intelligence is really perfect. Our ability to process intelligence is limited by Yeah, our hu our human kind of, we've seen that in the book of Joe pretty clearly.
Yeah. Yeah. So it's the idea, well, if it all should be saved and David is resurrected, what's gonna resurrect David? What is gonna bring him back? And so I started to kind of look at, there's a, there's a a Jesus birth story in the Book of Revelation. It's when there's the, you know, the dragon, there's a woman clothed in the sun.
I. And she gives birth. And immediately the baby, the dragon try to destroy everything. Yeah. The dragon tries to destroy everything and the baby tries to, you know, the baby immediately ascends to the throne. And I thought, well, that's really interesting. Why is there a, why is there a Jesus birth story in the Book of Revelation?
I said, well, if David is going to be resurrected, if that's kind of a, if that's a, an element and it's, there's kind of a motif in, you don't see it so much biblically, but you see it in other areas.
So the story of Pinocchio, for example, in Pinocchio, Pinocchio rescues his father in Star Wars. Luke rescues his father.
And so I started to look at the idea, well in Luke 1 32 when Jesus, or when Mary fi nds out she's gonna give birth to Jesus, and he had been given the throne of his, his father, David, I thought, what if. If we're all eternal, if Jesus saves everyone and there's eternal soul in every single human being who's ever lived, because that's the power of Jesus Christ, then what if the Virgin Mary were present in the modern day?
And King David's resurrection is this desperate man who's been looking for the light of Christ, and he can't, he doesn't know that's what he's looking for, but he's been looking for a woman his entire life. So love letters to the Virgin Mary is the idea that King David's resurrection would be by seeing an image of the Virgin Mary, this woman clothed in the sun somewhere in the modern day.
And then that takes him on the journey of coming back to the realization that, oh wow, I have to look at accepting Jesus Christ as my root, my offspring. What's different about the book? And if you see the cover, you'll see that it's, it takes into account some things that I would say traditional.
Christianity doesn't look at like quantum physics, like the idea if heaven and earth are to come together the way the Bible states at the end and there's a new heaven and a new Earth, well, how does that happen? Because we know that heaven's not on the moon. It's not on the other side of Mars, it's not in Venus.
It's gotta be another universe. It's gotta be in, in this day and age where we talk about multiverses, quantum physics starts to make sense. And then it's kind of like, well, wouldn't that idea then be that Christ's return would be bringing together universes in a way that we haven't conceived of before?
Because we've been so fi xated kind of on the physical world that we thought we forgot that there's a world underneath called the quantum world. It also looks at very, um, the, the reason I, I pulled Thor, the God of thunder into the story because two things, one. Well, three things really. One, historically, when the Romans adopted Christianity, they were in the fourth century.
They were still trying to conquer the tribes of Romania, and it was so diffi cult for them to conquer because there was no central authority in Romania. It was all these disparate tribes. Well, they at the time, worshiped Odin and Thor and the Norse gods, and they've actually found archeologists that found jewelry molds that have a cross and a hammer,
because the jewelers at the time didn't know if their customers were going to be on the side of Thor or on the side of Christ.
So then in the fi rst Thor movie from Marvel Studios, that came out, I think in 2013, 50 minutes into the movie, there's a reference to King David. There's a book on a bookshelf and the, there's a astrophysicist or something who grabs a book, but there's a book that says David the King. I thought That's really interesting.
That's a really interesting tie. So then I looked further and I said, well let, let's, let's take this into modern history, because if you can go along with what I'm saying, and then if David doesn't ascend to heaven, but there's this binding promise between he and Jesus Christ and God ostensibly, then David's, because he is saying, the Lord said to my Lord, sit at my right hand.
Well, I make your enemies a footstool. And we know biblically the footstool means the earth. Like the footstool for the Messiah is the Earth. Yeah. So then David's spirit, and this is, this is my conjecture, is David's spirit is the vanguard by which Christianity advances because he's going to make sure that evil is rooted out, that paganism is rooted out in all those things.
Mm-hmm. So that the Messiah is set atop of the supremacy. So take that into the context now of the cost. There's a great book called The Spear of Destiny, and it's written by an author named Ravenscroft. And in that book he talks about Adolf Hitler's fi xation and fascination with the spear of destiny, which is the spear of long genus.
So long genus was the Roman soldier centurion, who stabbed Jesus to confi rm that he was dead on his crucifi xion. And Hitler was fascinated by this because it was deemed a holy weapon. And so he wanted to use it against the allies. And the author in this book makes the case that Hitler was the antichrist.
So then if you look at what was the Holocaust besides just a very viral strain of antisemitism that played out horribly, what was it really? I would make the case that monotheism, as we understand it today, is born in Judaism, right? Because. Both Islam, Christianity, we pull from the fi ve books of the Torah and say that's the origin.
That is the origin story. So if you look at the star of David, it's a pagan symbol. It's a symbol for earth, air, fi re, water, and male and female. It's also a symbol for heaven, heaven and earth coming together.
Then if Hitler's the antichrist, what we're really saying is the Holocaust was a symbolic effort by mankind to destroy the source of its creation. Because if, if monotheism came from Judaism, you kill half the Jews on the planet, you are basically trying to say that you were trying to wipe out creation.
And when you think of, I don't know how much you know about military history, but Hitler's desire to create a Superman was, was based on the idea that in the absence of. Christian morality that had defi ned Europe for over a, a millennium as science and reasons started to take over. Christianity lost its hold, especially on na statehood.
And there was a forecast by people like the philosopher, like Nietzsche, who said, in the absence of Christian morality, the governing basis for Western Europe, we're going to see a rise in totalitarianism. And he died in 1900. 20 years later you had Stalin. Two years after that you had Hitler. You had Mao and China.
So, so that is also a component of this because the Nazi swastika is a symbol for Thor's hammer. It's actually a symbol for Thor's hammer Muir. And if you understand how the Nazis fought, they fought using a technique called lightning warfare, the blitzkrieg, and so thunder and lightning. So you see their devastating war machine had some Norse origins from it based on their history.
Wow. That was a lot of knowledge and I, I appreciate it. I know, I know you've done a lot of research Oh, yeah. On this topic, so I know you've devoted your life to this, so Yeah, that's, that's a lot. I wanna make sure I'm understanding something correctly. Sure. Because, uh, maybe I'm not tracking when the woman cloth the sun gives birth, are you saying that baby she's giving birth to is the resurrected or the new body for King David?
No, no, no. It's, it's, I just wanted to clarify that. No, it's Christ descending. What I would say in that moment is the dragon to me, if David has turned, if David calls everyone a liar and has turned his house against him. Mm-hmm. What I'm making the case for is that Christ must fi nd a way to save King David.
That's why there's so many psalms about being very, you know, right. Being saved from the pit. But David, as he's resurrected, I am making the case that is an embodiment of. Once he realizes, oh my gosh, there is this, this woman that I've sought my entire life. And then when you read the book, you realize it's, he must let the woman go so that he can fully embrace Christ.
And that's kind of, that's kind of like the triumph of Christ is complete. Once King David acknowledges, okay, that is my root and my offspring, Christ is the Messiah. Because that
what that does, if you think about it in the greater context, all three Abrahamic faiths believe in a Messiah. Two of those assign it to Jesus.
Even though in Islam it's not really clear what they mean by Messiah, but they believe Jesus is the Messiah to the Jewish people. Christ obviously is the Messiah for Christianity. The Messiah for the Jews is comes from the house of David. And for I think that to be fulfi lled, I would say that David needs to be raised up and that would be based a conscious act where he is able to recognize, acknowledge Christ as a messiah.
Yeah. Or I could take a DNA test and maybe tell all of, uh, all of the Jewish people that Mr. Whiskey is the long lost, you know, heir of King David. But yeah, no, I know they're still waiting for a Messiah, and, and it's defi nitely, yeah. Interesting because it seems like after. Between biblical times and now I'm not sure how much genealogical histories accurately tracked.
I feel like we lost it for a little bit there. And um, I know they're still constantly working every day to try and fi nd DNA or genetic proof of Jesus Christ by, by running tests on blood in different sites over there in, in where he was supposedly existed and did his teachings. You know, they're trying to check those sites or, or fi nd anything they can.
And, uh, there's always new signs coming out. And as, as I say in my book, uh, every day, you know, scientists are saying, here's more proof that God exists. And every day scientists are saying, here's more proof that God doesn't exist, you know, so it's this endless hamster reel of the human mind and human research trying to put into a box all this stuff.
But yeah. So what, what I really need to clarify for everyone, just 'cause I wanna make sure I'm tracking as well. Yeah. Is love letters to Virgin Mary? Is it a. Historical fi ction or is it a theoretical, like a book of theology? Like what, how would you classify? It's more, it's, yeah, it's more, I would say probably historical fi ction, but, and it's in fi ction, the sense that you have to account for the transmission of David's soul across modernity.
Right. There has to be if, if he's going to be resurrected, and if my conjecture is right, that he is the vanguard by which Christianity advances, because that is how you ensure that all the enemies are made a footstool for the Messiah feet. You have to be able to count for that, and there's no obviously historical evidence that says, oh yeah, we can track King David's soul migrating through Western civilization as Europe is formed and the America's formed.
You can't do that. So in that sense, it's a historical fi ction. I would say becoming one with Christ. My next book is much more theological because Okay. In, I mean, really. Do you
know much about Carl Young? I don't want to. I don't want to. No. So, so Carl Young was a psychologist who, um, adept psychology in Europe.
And what he discovered through treating people from across the continent was even though they had different backgrounds, different experiences, different ethnic ethnicities and cultures, they all had common themes in their dreams. And so it came up with this idea that there must be a universal unconsciousness that we're all have access to it, that contains all of human history.
Yeah. And what he started to look at was there are archetypes to our, there, there's components and elements to our soul, and in one sense there is the self. So that is like the whole sense of who we are, but there's also a persona. And the persona is who we project out into the world, who we like, how do we want to appear to others?
Then there's a shadow, and the shadow is. The parts of us that we don't like and we kind of try to repress or we project onto other people, oh, that person's ugly because they said this, or they're racist or whatever. We project something onto them so that we don't have to fi ll it when an actuality it might be part of us.
Then there's also what he called the anima or anus, and in men the anima is the female aspect of a man. We all come, right? Yeah. Every single one of us comes from a, a woman, and the woman it's, and the anima is the male aspect. He also talked about that there were different personalities within us. There's like a, a sovereign, a king or a queen.
There's a warrior. There's a lover. There's a magician, and more work has been done on these archetypes to say that you really need to integrate the archetypes because you can see if your king is out of balance, for example, they'll be tyrannical. If your lover's out of bound, they could be completely dependent on someone else for, for intimacy and feelings.
And the whole idea is if you can integrate your soul, you'll have a sense of wholeness. And part of that integration is as your king, your sovereign, or your queen aligns with Christ. The sharing the mind of Christ and kind of tuning into that Christ consciousness, you start to integrate the rest of your archetypes, which brings back the restoration of your soul.
Love Letters to the Virgin Mary is very much an act of, it's, it's written kind of from the fi rst person of David's perspective and it it's also has different elements of his soul that play out to explain the transmission of his soul across 2000 or 3000 years. Becoming one with Christ is much more theological as well as psychological in terms of explaining some of what I just said.
And then it also looks at the history. Of Christianity as advanced post resurrection. So why did Christianity evolve the way it did? Why did it arc so specifi cally through Western civilization to dominate the backbone of Western civilization? And, and then looking at also what I talked about with Hitler and the Holocaust and, and the idea from this book that Hil was the antichrist.
I think it's interesting, you know, if you have a dream of a certain animal doing a certain action, and you look up what it means, a lot of times you'll fi nd it's pretty on track, right? And, and really you see that a lot of people who dream about certain animals or actions are, are experiencing the same things.
Uh, so it's very interesting to see if that ties into that group consciousness. But also, we also know that God uses dreams to speak to us as well, right? And I mean, no one ever said that God's not gonna use the same symbology, right? I mean, if something works, you keep using it. Right? Right. So it's defi nitely an interesting theory, but you've given us a lot of information.
I think it's a lot for everyone to think about, and if anyone listening, if y'all are, whether you're faith-based or not. Again, if you haven't read about King David and I, I, I highly suggest it. One, there's just a lot of great stories, lessons in just writing and all of that, as well as it'll give you a better perspective on just the Jewish faith and Christianity and all the other, you know, doctrines in terms of the Bible.
You know, I know when I fi rst read the Bible in order, because I had always just read randomly, you know? Right. When I read it in order, you get that historical context, you get the whole storyline, the whole, you know. Arc of King David from beginning to end of Kings Solomon, of Saul, of Sam, all of that. I mean, you just get such a greater understanding and connection to the Bible.
And so I highly recommend y'all do that. And then Mr. Richards, what I'd love for you to leave us with is, as a man who has gone deep into theology in the Bible, what quote would you leave with us? I know that there are hundreds of them. There's tons of great ones, and it's, it's never easy to choose one.
But if you have one for us to think about, uh, the fi r, the one that comes to mind is seeking, you shall fi nd, right? Like, part of my own journey was I got, I went into 2020 in January of 2020 kind of looking to reconcile my relationship with God. And I didn't, I didn't necessarily know what that meant because my journey had taken me kind of so far away.
I I wasn't focused on Christ. And you talk about understanding the Bible, it's important, I think what I, what I sometimes feel, and you hit on it. Is sometimes people read the snapshot and they say, well, okay, this is, you know, the 10 Commandments, that's the basis for civilization. Well wait no, the 10 Commandments were the basis for the people who didn't have a law and were separated from God.
Because that's the Old Testament is about separation. It's about, yeah, it, and then you look at the New Testament, the New Testament is about God is imminent. God is embodied, incarnate in Jesus Christ. And what does that, the, the, you know, the veil of the temple is literally torn when Jesus dies, symbolizing that God is no longer separate.
Now we have to seek God within us by going deep within us and, um, seek and you shall fi nd. You can not believe in God or not look for God, and you will not fi nd them. You will, you won't fi nd God. It's it that you can live that reality and live that life. Yeah. If you seek with, if, if you seek with all your heart, you will fi nd God.
And once you understand God's presence in Christ's eternal presence, you can't unsee it. It, it completely changes your life forever. Amen. You know what really has helped me in life was the fact that I was just naturally, intellectually curious, you know? Mm. And so, so many people aren't seeking because they feel like they've already found the answers.
They went to a church one time and they had a bad experience. Well, I already found my answer. Or you know, their parents or someone they knew. Was a hypocrite, you know, whatever it may be. So many people have a list of reasons why they don't wanna believe in God or the church, not, they don't understand that the church and God are separate.
And what you see is that they're not seeking because they don't want to, because they're afraid to, or because they feel like they already have. But my biggest issue and brought it up in the very beginning of the episode was so many people, faith-based, people included, believers included, have never read the whole Bible, right?
So how can you say you're seeking God with all your heart if you haven't read his word? What is his word? It says, you know, God is the word. The word is God. Like it is His word. To believe God exists is to believe that his word is true as well, and, and, and you know, breathe by his spirit. So I think, you know, I don't want to harp like, oh, you have to read the Bible.
You have to read the Bible, you have to know the Bible, you have to memorize the Bible there. There's a relationship with God outside of that. But why would you not read the Bible if that's the, the guidebook for life that he gave us, that he's saying, this is where you'll fi nd everything you need. And some people are like, God never answers me, or God's never
listening, or He is not there, but they've never tried to dive into his word and actually get to know him on a deeper level because just demanding that God will actually speak to you or show himself to you.
I mean, the whole idea of faith is, is the belief and hope and things that we haven't seen, you know? Right. And, but he gave us something visible and physical, the Bible to read, to get to know him on a deeper level. So I, I really like that, that that Sikh, you know, and so many people take that, well, I'm, I'm seeking a, a good time at, on a Friday night, or I'm seeking a new raise at my job, or I'm seeking a new career.
You have to have God at the forefront of it, you know, and, and that's all throughout the Bible. Yeah. I was gonna, I, I agree with you. I, I think the other thing, and I've. I grew up being told and taught that God was outside of me. And when you realize how, that just doesn't even make sense. If you understand, even on a basic level quantum physics, you know, that instantly doesn't make sense.
And then if you go to First Corinthians, or I think it's two 16, we all share the mind of Christ, then that means that that internal dialogue is where you seek God. And, um, Dr. Jordan Peterson, in his latest book, we Who Wrestle With God, which just came out last year, hits on the story of Elijah. And he says, you know, the, the revelation from the story of Elijah is he says, God is not found in the wind, the earthquake or the fi re.
God is found by attending to the inner voice of conscience, and you will be answered by the spirits of your aim. And so if your aim isn't set on the highest conceivable good, which. No one comes to the Father except through Christ, then you must set your aim on Christ. And that's where that dialogue, and that's where we sharing the mind of Christ comes from.
That is, I don't know that that's as widely taught in Christianity as it needs to be because there is, at least in my experience, a propensity to assign God outside of us. And that's Old Testament thinking. When you understand what Jesus embodied and when we share the mind of Christ and when he says, I am in you and you are in me.
That is not separation, that is unity. And that's what he even talks about, complete unity. Um, so I I love that you said that, and I think that's part of the reason why people don't seek as well. Because when people talk about God, they talk about something that. They talk about like it's outside of them.
And I think that's an oversight, especially when even I think it's what Matthew fi ve 14 where Jesus says, those who love me will obey my teaching. My father will love them. We will
come to them and make our home in them. If you are meant to be a habitation for God and Jesus and the Father are going to make their home in you, what does that say about you?
And that's, that is an internal dialogue and an internal awakening that I think we sometimes lose sight of because we give, and I, I, I think there's sometimes a tendency to look at something in the Old Testament and say, well, that still stands. Well, no, Jesus came to I, I think Jesus's teachings are primary over what was taught in the Old Testament.
That's just my personal philosophy based on the evolution of the Bible story and the allowing for the passage of time. Yeah. And I know that we talked about your, your two books that are King David centric, but you also have other books, thought pieces Yeah. Speak and all that. So we're gonna have your website and the description below for everyone to check out.
Thank you. All that you do obviously, uh, you know, to cover all of that would be another hour or so. So probably totally. I wanna wrap things up here, but I think it was a great, very in-depth discussion. I think it, uh, hopefully everyone listening is intellectually curious and will follow up on a lot of what you said and research and look into it.
'cause it's, you know, there's so much historical stuff to read outside of the Bible as well. Tons. That is very interesting. Tons. Oh, tons, tons. You know, they're al always be learning. But yeah, I wanna thank you Mr. Richards for sharing this with us and hopefully we have brought a few people toward. The Bible, whether you're a faith-based person or not, just to read it and, and spend some time with it.
Don't just read it and rush through it, you know, actively read it. You know, ask questions, watch sermons on certain sections, like go into it. You can spend a long time reading the Bible. I've seen people who have hosted sermons on just a single verse, so you know, you can get into it and I highly encourage everyone.
But Mr. Richards, I wanna thank you for your time today and for coming on the show. Mr. Whiskey, it has been a pleasure. Thank you for your great questions, your dialogue. I really enjoyed the, thank you so much for having me.